Winnipegers......post here!

[ShakesO]

brief scanning shows that there is some kind of fogging debate going on...

i vote for wearing bugspray... i just don't know how long we can keep spraying crap in the air. but that's an uniformed opinion - but spraying and spraying and spraying doesn't make me think that in 50 years it'll be ok... sorta selfish to do it right now. but i see the immediate gratification.

minneapolis is fun (i'm in the lobby waiting for info on how to get to the damn zoo). the freeway is nuts though...

warped was good. i have the oddest sunburn (apparently i didn't get under my neck). and dropped like $200 on merch and cds - Espin, check out Paramore (purevolume maybe?) the leader singer is a chick and i was blown away. she looks like she's 17, and about 5 foot nothin - reminds me of STOY.

anyhoo - i think the front desk has survived the "i overbooked the kingrooms" dilemma and will be alive to get me my info.

ciao mates.

[davetheking75]

did you catch Big D and the Kids Table?

[neubian1]

Hey guys, though that i'd say that i'm back in Alberta and that i enjoyed Winnipeg again. Also though that i'd let bambam know that unless you are looking for whats hanging on the pegs in the Peg, minus the pst then you aren't gonna find anything else.

[AstroDave]

Here is my fogging protestor repellant kit:

http://tinypic.com/9gegsj.jpg

Guaranteed to work everytime!

I'm pretty good with a Bo staff! You gotta have skillz!

[zoomer]

up too late but not to bump

[bigsexy_j]

I wonder if we missed any Matt Hardy on Raw last night due to TSN not showing men on women violence?

[gratzi]

Yes we did

[Morgbug]

does anyone find Morgburg's in-depth knowledge of all these chemicals a little conspicuous? you got a lab at your place
Nope, no lab there. But I do know some people with one. Odd folks they are.

As to my knowledge, for a change I'm actually talking about something I know a little about. It doesn't change me from being an opinionated *****, but for once I have something to back me up. I am employed as an entomologist and have a couple of degrees in bugs (with a minor in toxicology) so I'm moderately comfortable discussing the crap.

Actually, the crop dusting thing is kinda what I imagined it would be I wasn't expecting them to fly high and drop a gas bomb hoping it would envelop the city. Is that what they actually mean my Aerial fogging? If so that would be rather stupid as you had pointed out. I just assumed it would be similar to a crop dust method since it looks to be the most effective way to cover a lot of ground in a limited amount of time at night.
Yeah, aerial spraying would employ fairly large aircraft (probably DC-3) at a fair height because of safety restrictions. Grand Forks does it, but they fly a little lower for the most part there (not sure why, different rules for aircraft?) and they rely on ground based spraying as well - easier in a smaller town. But I think they've done ground based spraying 11 times this year and aerial only once.

i vote for wearing bugspray... i just don't know how long we can keep spraying crap in the air. but that's an uniformed opinion - but spraying and spraying and spraying doesn't make me think that in 50 years it'll be ok... sorta selfish to do it right now. but i see the immediate gratification.
Not an invalid point at all. If all the City did was rely entirely upon spraying it would be pretty pointless. But they try as best they can to use larviciding with biologically based products (mostly) to control the mosquitoes before they get to the biting stage. It's just in extreme cases such as the extremely high rainfall we've had here that they resort to spraying. If next year's dry, you're unlikely to see the sprayers out.

No one here probably knows (or really cares) but malathion was introduced in 1950, so we actually have 55 years experience with it. That pretty much amounts to a generation. Use patterns have changed dramatically since the time in which it was introduced and we are much, much more cautious than we were at that time (anyone see the X-Files episode with people in an empty swimming pool being sprayed with DDT for delousing?) and tend only to use prescribed rates and in the case of malathion within the City, only ultra low volumes. When talking chronic doses (i.e. what might give you cancer) the dose still makes the poison. There are those that would suggest otherwise, but when you adjust for age, cancer rates are pretty darn stable or even declining (only really climbing in terms of lung cancer). You have to adjust for age because there are indeed more absolute cancer cases, both because of an increase in population and because older people tend to get more cancer. This is not to say there are not absolutely tragic cases of young men and women or children getting cancer, they do. Unfortunately there is seldom a "cause" for this other than crappy genetics and misfiring genes.

With respect to the 50 years spraying, you'd be looking most importantly at the mosquitoes developing resistance to the spray over time. In general I think the city does a decent job and to some degree this spraying is politically motivated because of the uncertainties of West Nile Virus. At some point in the not too distant future we'll have a much better handle on it. Much better minds than mine have suggested it will settle out like Western Equine Encephalitis. How many of you guys are familiar with it? Not too many and no reason you should be, it's a pretty minor concern. The same will probably occur with West Nile as the majority of the population becomes exposed and develops antibodies or some other type of autoimmune defense.

I happen to be of the opinion that the City sprayed way too much last year. Numbers were low, very low. This year when trap counts exceeded 10,000 in Headingly (sp?), that's almost beyond a nuisance threat. I have a buddy with an autistic child. When his kid gets repeated bites, outside of restraining the kid physically, the kid will scratch until he bleeds, often badly enough to require medical treatment. The point is just that there are other reasons to spray when mosquito numbers are extreme, West Nile just makes a more sensible justification. And before anyone asks, yeah, the autistic kid has on long clothes, wears repellent, etc. Still gets bites though, whether they're on his body or head.

have the ultimate solution. We jack up the city so water drains down away from it. Drill holes strategically outside of the city so it drains out to lake Winnipeg! That'll show em!

I know you're joking, but in technical terms this is called drainage remediation. When the media gets folks from say Edmonton or Ottawa to comment on the Winnipeg mosquito situation this is always what they suggest. They also merrily point out that they don't ever fog. Two points:
1. Drainage remediation in Ottawa/Edmonton is possible because of some odd geography called hills. We don't have anywhere for the water to go, outside of the above suggestion which isn't all that practical. Other, hillier cities can do that and do it well. We have no changes in topography and a largely clay bottom soil (drains like crap)
2. Because of said drainage remediation, there is seldom, if ever, a need to spray because trap counts rarely exceed 25 per night. Ottawa HAS sprayed in the last 10 years (adulticided/fogged) but they were under 100 mosquitoes per trap when they did it. We didn't spray this year until around 600/trap/night, roughly where Randy Gadawski used to draw the line as well. Bluntly put people that live in other cities couldn't handle it here because they're *******.

DR.Morgbug thanks for the valuable info. I'm going to sit down in my backyard the next time they spray(I hope they do), and i'll let you guys know if I get sick or grow a tail.

I know you're joking (or hope so) but I wouldn't recommend that. To call malathion a poison is indeed accurate. Everyone out there is crapping over chronic (long term) exposure of which my opinion is that there is very little risk, particularly if you don't go outside within an hour of the spray being in the air. To sit outside while the spray comes by is to risk acute (short term) exposure, something bluntly called poisoning. It is still highly doubtful that you would be affected, but it could happen and that's just no fun at all. Certainly not worth the risk.

It forever boggles my mind that the anti-fogging folks go out and confront actively spraying trucks. It makes me extremely angry that these people drag their children out there with them, exposing them and using them as perceived weapons against the trucks. To me that's nothing more than child abuse. There is no good or sensible reason to involve children in active protest with poison in the air, regardless of the dose. It's just plain stupidity. They should get their protests done at the Yard site before the trucks leave or through political channels. They don't win their protests because they are short on science and long on lies and half truths. We all have opinions, the debate has to be won or lost based on facts. In this case the facts are science and that doesn't include crap you or the Sierra Club makes up or distorts.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that:o

Not much coming out that interests me in terms of sportspicks. Might pick up a red TC Brodeur, want both Orrs, maybe a Cherry (anyone think there'll be a Cherry chase piece in a different jacket?). Nothing from football interests me though.

[vicnsand]

Just to add, Edmonton never fogs because there is no need to fog. It's far dryer in that part of the country, and any standing water will quickly be absorbed by the ground. The mosquito season in Edmonton is about 3 weeks long.

The down side to this is that if you have eczema and you live in Edmonton, it'll flare up because of the dryness.

[davetheking75]

How long did that take to write out?

[zoomer]

woohoo i can get on the internet at work again!

[Morgbug]

How long did that take to write out?

About 15 minutes. Better than working:p I talk about this stuff all day at work. There's 600,000+ in the City of Winnipeg. That leaves me with about 400,000 to talk too;)

[zoomer]

zellers has 500th vaders for less than tru (21.97 i think)

[moosefan98]

I got stuck behind a fogging truck while I was riding my bike. My eyes have never burnt so bad ever and my lungs hurt but then I laughed at how stuid it was to ride through that crap and I deserved to be in pain!!

[peaceshark]

Well at least you probably won't get biten for the rest of your life.

[bambam73]

Well at least you probably won't get biten for the rest of your life.
lol

[ragingdemon]

zellers has 500th vaders for less than tru (21.97 i think)

did they just put him out? I was at the Zellers at Fort Richmond yesterday and nada.

Anychance you saw a Marvel Legends Deadpool too?

[Senk]

Here is my position on the mosquitos although none of you probably care:

Like it or not, there are always going to be mosquitos in Winnipeg in the summer. When it rains like it has this spring and summer, there are going to be increased concentrations of mosquitos. I don't understand why everone is going crazy about them and the risk for West Nile. It's not that much of a risk for the vast majority of people. I admit that the moquitos have been bad the last couple of weeks, but they won't stay that bad. They will peak and naturally decrease. There are way to avoid getting bit.

I am totally in favour or larviciding and the other non-spraying means of controlling the mosquitos that the city is pursuing. I don't see spraying as being that effective and mosquitos are not the only things that get killed by it.

Obviously Brent knows more about this that everyone else on the thread put together, and I have a question for him: Do you let your daughter play outside in the yard the day after the trucks come through and spray your neighborhood? Just wondering.

[zoomer]

we wouldnt be here if it wasnt for the mosquitos

mosquitos are on the Intergalactic Endangered Species List, and we're they're food, so they actually do a lot to Help us (that we'll never know about)

[davetheking75]

zoomer your avatar LMAO

[6five]

who has Clement in fantasy baseball? He got smoked by a baseball to the side of his head, didn't look good...

[gratzi]

That would be me

[ragingdemon]

I can't speak for Brent, but the day after spraying I saw a whole lot more people outside, including children playing outside on their lawns. They were virtually absent prior to the fogging. The day after the fogging started (in the parks), we had a barbecue at King's Park. There was one mosquito for the entire 2-2.5 hours that we were there. I have yet to see scores of dead birds or squirrels on my lawn, or anywhere else for that matter.

Even just 2 weeks of heavy mosquitoes is bad in my book. Anything that can be done to reduce them is great. Wearing long sleeved clothing and pants on hot humid days is something that I can do without. And staying indoors isn't an option when there's work to be done. I can't imagine that heavy usage of bug repellant can be all that healthy, and I hate the sticky feeling that accompanies it.

As far as west nile, just ask anyone who's had to go through it. I'll take my chances with malathion (the dosage concentration of which is harmless to the majority of people under normal circumstances, unless you're Glenda Whiteman) over the chance of getting west nile. Heck, I'd use it alone just to be relieved from nuisance mosquitoes.

Here is my position on the mosquitos although none of you probably care:

Like it or not, there are always going to be mosquitos in Winnipeg in the summer. When it rains like it has this spring and summer, there are going to be increased concentrations of mosquitos. I don't understand why everone is going crazy about them and the risk for West Nile. It's not that much of a risk for the vast majority of people. I admit that the moquitos have been bad the last couple of weeks, but they won't stay that bad. They will peak and naturally decrease. There are way to avoid getting bit.

I am totally in favour or larviciding and the other non-spraying means of controlling the mosquitos that the city is pursuing. I don't see spraying as being that effective and mosquitos are not the only things that get killed by it.

Obviously Brent knows more about this that everyone else on the thread put together, and I have a question for him: Do you let your daughter play outside in the yard the day after the trucks come through and spray your neighborhood? Just wondering.

[davetheking75]

That would be me

that sucks







i already beat you

[Morgbug]

Here is my position on the mosquitos although none of you probably care:
Like it or not, there are always going to be mosquitos in Winnipeg in the summer. When it rains like it has this spring and summer, there are going to be increased concentrations of mosquitos. I don't understand why everone is going crazy about them and the risk for West Nile. It's not that much of a risk for the vast majority of people. I admit that the moquitos have been bad the last couple of weeks, but they won't stay that bad. They will peak and naturally decrease. There are way to avoid getting bit.

Mostly absolutely true, but there was indeed a tremendously elevated risk of West Nile. What I said about it becoming minor is still speculative. Those speculating it are pretty bright and darn knowledgeable so I expect they will be proven right. But they might not be. The number of Culex tarsalis (not all mosquito species can transfer or carry the disease) that is about right now (and prior to spraying) is very nearly unprecedented in the history of the insect control branch. The numbers are extremely high as a proportion of the population.

With respect to the natural decline in the mosquito population, you are 100% correct. My position differs from yours largely on this basis though:
-We do not have a great handle on how West Nile operates in humans
-There is a very high population of Culex tarsalis around, that is the vector, there are also many more infected birds than anyone is letting the media know
-The risks from ULV malathion, unless you're stupid enough to run behind a truck, are negligible if they exist at all
-I'll happily agree that the residents of this city get way, way too worked up about it as well, but I do understand that the summer is exceedingly short and for guys like my buddy with the autistic child, there are other very serious issues at hand.

You are correct West Nile is largely not a risk for most people, aside from the elderly. However most of the rural cases in Manitoba involve fairly large, healthy men in their 30s and 40s. One guy out just east of Portage is taller than you Brad and quite fit. He's in his late forties, weighs about 225 and was laid out like a baby for over a month. The generalizations hold true except for the exceptions. That said, given he lives in a rural area, no amount of malathion would have prevented his contracting the virus.


I am totally in favour or larviciding and the other non-spraying means of controlling the mosquitos that the city is pursuing. I don't see spraying as being that effective and mosquitos are not the only things that get killed by it.

Let me ask you a question. If other things are getting killed, how can it be that mosquiotes are not being effectively killed? Do you see the conundrum? You're making the suggestion that we're spraying something that is selectively less effective against mosquitoes than non-target insects. It's not a direct suggestion, but the implication stands: we've been using a product that is selective for everything but mosquitoes.

With respect to non-target insects part of the reason for spraying at night is because the mosquitoes are out and active at night. During the day they primarily rest in the foliage (trees, grass, bushes) and spraying would be interfered with by physical barriers - those same trees, grass and bushes. Now here's another question: if those trees, grass and bushes afford mosquitoes protection from the spraying (adulticiding, malathion) why doesn't it afford some protection to the non-target insect species since they're using the same resting spaces, just at a different time of the day? You are correct, there are non-target effects, the point is just that they aren't quite as bad as some sides of the story would indicate. I'd have a hard time arguing that the dragonfly population didn't suffer some impact, but they were also about to start declining naturally given they'd about run their normal life span, just as you suggest happens with mosquito populations. I'll avoid going into why dragonflies as biological control organisms is a load of crap. For now.

I'll happily admit that the effects of spraying are transient and relatively short lived. In the absence of larviciding it would be utterly useless as the hatch would just continue regardless. But the effects are real. Many of the opponents cite literature from the old days when guys got paid for driving the truck regardless of how long it took - the less scrupulous guys could do it in 4 hours rather than 8 and be home sleeping while getting paid for 8 hours work. Nowadays they have GPS units in the trucks that monitor precisely where they went and how fast they were going. Efficacy is up considerably. How long does the control last? In my opinion somewhere between 3 and 10 days, depending on weather conditions, wind blowing in new mosquitoes and how effective the larviciding program is.

Obviously Brent knows more about this that everyone else on the thread put together, and I have a question for him: Do you let your daughter play outside in the yard the day after the trucks come through and spray your neighborhood? Just wondering.
The answer is yes, absolutely she was outside the next day. I put her toys away in the shed for the night and we were out the next morning. Why? With ULV there is so very, very little residue out there that the risks are largely phantom risks. Many of the safety considerations that are brought up are done so largely because of litigation avoidance, not toxicological reasons. Courts seldom use science as a basis, they rely more on the ability and charisma of the lawyers arguing a case.

Does anyone here use antibacterial soap? It's a pesticide, a bacteriacide specifically. How about something like lysol? Anyone smoke (did you know a goodly proportion of the folks out protesting do?) or drink? Those are real risks (not the soap;) ). Does anyone here treat young children (under 2 years of age ) with citronella? You're not supposed to, it's more hazardous to children under that age than is DEET? Curiously CROW doesn't talk about that too much, do they?

Ok, I'm a liar, I'm never done:o If anyone wants me to tee off on the whole dragonfly BS, just let me know;)

[bambam73]

We still talkin Mosquito's?

Is anyone's team about to loose a good player to the buy out plan?
The Blues can cut loose D.weight for all I care, but buying out Tkachuck and not resigning Pronger will hurt big time.

[ragingdemon]

Praise to Morgbug, I bow to you sir!

[davetheking75]

minnesota is sitting very well, they have 10 players signed already ( including Gaborik, Roloson, and Kuba) at just under 14 million. The only restricted free agents i think are necessary to bring back are pierre marc bouchard and manny fernandez( i guess they could bring back Daigle as well fairly cheaply)

[davetheking75]

morg - if you post soomething that long again i am not reading it

[Morgbug]

Praise to Morgbug, I bow to you sir!

Thanks, but it's easy for me as it encompasses a big part of my work and training.

I neglected to add the caveat for Brad or anyone else that disagrees with me, please do ask questions and if you don't like the answers, tell me why and I'll try to clarify as best I can.

To anyone bored witless by the conversation, my apologies. I will try to be better behaved when some sportspicks or other interesting toys are out and about.

Anyone here seriously contemplate the Jets coming back? I'd love to see it happen and with many good changes in the deal it makes it seem more likely, but I just don't see it as being realistic.

morg - if you post soomething that long again i am not reading it
:p Dave, sorry. Let's just put it this way: if my post fills up your screen, just ignore it, it's probably not important.

[bambam73]

I do think they(Jets) will be back.

Maybe the Winnipeg Penguins, or the Winnipeg Lightning. ;)

[ragingdemon]

The cap does (somewhat) level the playing field, so...

[CTO Inc]

hey brent. i respect what you have to say...:)

[Stiller 35]

I went to max collectables tday just to check it out, There is tons of wicked figures and all McFarlane figs. Just wish it was a tad cheaper, he wants too much for his stuff...

[ragingdemon]

You're absolutely right, he's got lot's of cool stuff, but the prices are very high. I like The Outer Perimeter, they've got pretty nice prices, and Galaxy Comics and Collectibles, they've got a really large selection.

I went to max collectables tday just to check it out, There is tons of wicked figures and all McFarlane figs. Just wish it was a tad cheaper, he wants too much for his stuff...

[6five]

-The risks from ULV malathion, unless you're stupid enough to run behind a truck...umm, so sorta like Moosefan did? :p :D

[gratzi]

I'd be interested in the Dragonfly bit as long as it's not as long as the rest of the posts, I have a short attention span. :D

[gratzi]

Just saw a thing on the Score about Gretzky's daughter being on the cover of Flare magazine. I've always heard she's hot but she looks a little too much like a young Wayne for me, even though he's the only man some guys would have sex with, I'll pass.

[Morgbug]

I'd be interested in the Dragonfly bit as long as it's not as long as the rest of the posts, I have a short attention span. :D

You should know I can't be short. I'll try, but I'll fail. I'll post it tomorrow. ;) And no, it won't take me all night to write.

[CTO Inc]

where is Max Collectibles?

[Senk]

You should know I can't be short. I'll try, but I'll fail. I'll post it tomorrow. ;) And no, it won't take me all night to write.

It's interesting hearing from someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
I for one do not buy into the dragonfly hype.

[davetheking75]

It's interesting hearing from someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
I for one do not buy into the dragonfly hype.

the dragonflys work to some degree, we have raspberries in or back yard and my dad went to pick some before they fogged and he said they rose the skeets rose up like a cloud of dust then the dragonflies came in and in about 15 minutes all the skeeters were gone

[Crashz]

Just saw a thing on the Score about Gretzky's daughter being on the cover of Flare magazine. I've always heard she's hot but she looks a little too much like a young Wayne for me, even though he's the only man some guys would have sex with, I'll pass.

You are kabonkers. She's a good lookin girl. I saw her doing a photoshoot with her mom too. Damn, whatta pair!

[vicnsand]

So how's everyone's collection doing? Looking for anything else? Since I got my blue Fuhr in the mail a few weeks ago, the drive to collect has fizzled out. Looks like the collection could be "closed" at this point........maybe even for good unless another Canuck figure comes out.

[moosefan98]

once GAry gets me my series one Theodore and a chase Rick Nash I think I'll be pretty happy with my collection.

[6five]

The white Hemsky still elludes me...someone bought the one at Mandalay before I did, d'oh...

[bigsexy_j]

My sports collection seems to be slowing down but those stupid marvel figures have me hooked, just need avs Bourque

[CTO Inc]

it never ends....

[GAMAX1001]

I'm slowing dowm, but here is what I need to finish off my goalie collection:

Richter Variant (pending)
Osgood Variant
Series 5 Red Roy Variant
Raycroft Variant

and I think that's it.

[GAMAX1001]

Well, there is also the 3rd Jersey Roy, but I'll never get that.

[ShakesO]

ironman and dr. doom minimates at target haul bump :) (back tomorrow evening)

[zoomer]

watched

Stewie Griffin - the Untold Story
dvdscr today

family guy overload!

[zoomer]

after 2 years, windows update has caught on to me

my key no longer works :(

[zoomer]

anyone with a working XP copy, please pm me

[zoomer]

trapper pm returned

[gratzi]

bump

[6five]

anyone need a white Larry Bird bump...

[bigsexy_j]

hope i feel better bump

[ragingdemon]

Hope u feel better bump

[bambam73]

bump

[6five]

mornin' all

[Crashz]

All I needed was a Bruins Bourque

[vicnsand]

Didn't win that auction?

Anyone interested in a 12" white Gretzky loose or 12" blue Gretzky packaged?

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[freezerbox]

I wouldn't mind a blue packaged Gretzky. I gather you're selling it?

Darrel

Didn't win that auction?

Anyone interested in a 12" white Gretzky loose or 12" blue Gretzky packaged?

[vicnsand]

I wouldn't mind a blue packaged Gretzky. I gather you're selling it?

Darrel

Yep. I'll pm you with details.

[GAMAX1001]

Goodenow steps downs as leader of the NHLPA BUMP

[zoomer]

has anyone seen the devils rejects yet?

seen some NECA figs out already....

[bigsexy_j]

according to one of the papers Devils Rejects is one of the worst movies ever.

[AstroDave]

Zoomer please pm me your numbers thanks forgot my cell at home!

[zoomer]

well i cant expect many papers liked House of 1000 Corpses much either :)

[zoomer]

Zoomer please pm me your numbers thanks forgot my cell at home!
done

[cogra0006]

I'm back from holidays finally! I've been home 4 days this month. Life is sooooo hard.

[cogra0006]

What's up in Edmonton Neubian1?

[zoomer]

@home now

picked up family guy series 3 figs today (pink jasper, and the other 5 regs)

and can anyone help me in finding a devils rejects 'baby' figure?

does anyone need a series 1 monmc nologo belfour?

[espin]

bump

[espin]

sig test

[gratzi]

nice, who made it?

[espin]

http://www.o98-designs.com/index.php

I requested one and he made it for me!

[ShakesO]

back from minne.

must now commence planning of NHL trip(s?) this season.

[ShakesO]

a good potential package in late march -

edmonton vs-
flames, wings, canucks.

that's the best looking one. hopefully we can swing it.

[Crashz]

I sooooo want to go to an NHL game this season.

[bigsexy_j]

back to work bump

[GAMAX1001]

Espin,

I PMed back. I'll be in town, just give me a call on my cell.

Thanks

Gary

[GAMAX1001]

Anybody looking for a Blue Niewendyk Variant. (please note that it has a small dent in the bottom left corner of the bubble)

[moosefan98]

I think a trip to minnesota for the wild vs Pittsburgh would be a good trip!

[zoomer]

I think a trip to minnesota for the wild vs Pittsburgh would be a good trip!


cant argue there

i should look into when ottawa is playing there.......

[zoomer]

has anyone else NOT received a brokerage bill from fedex yet for the warehouse finds?

[davetheking75]

anybody know where i can get some older WWE classic figures in town?

[6five]

anybody know where i can get some older WWE classic figures in town?Mandalay Jay has a whole as s-load of older WWE stuff, not packaged though...

[zoomer]

anybody know where i can get some older WWE classic figures in town?


jay at mandalay flea market has Tons of loose wrestling figs

i can pm you his number if you're interested

[GAMAX1001]

Hi guys,

For the guys who were interested in Playing Ice Hockey with me at Billy Mosienko Arena on Saturday nights.

We will be playing from 10:00 to 11:30 PM on Saturday nights.

Please leave me a post if you might be interested.

I will update people on the cost as soon I get the schedule and dates of when we play.

[Senk]

has anyone else NOT received a brokerage bill from fedex yet for the warehouse finds?

Lucky bastard!

[davetheking75]

i would want packaged

[Senk]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/050729&num=0

[davetheking75]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/050729&num=0

i like how he wants to put a team back in winnipeg, but why would you contract Minnesota, they are in THE STATE OF HOCKEY

[zoomer]

i would want packaged

he has unopened stuff too. just way more loose

[davetheking75]

maybe ill head over there tomorrow

[bigsexy_j]

Wal mart has been putting out cases of series 2 and 3 lately, i think eBay is the only option for WWE classics series 1

[ShakesO]

apparently the new elvis hit our wally. granted i haven't been there in a few months so that could be old news.

didn't want to wait in line though.

i guess those 7am toy runs spoiled me - i hate waiting in line at large shopping places. i feel like i'm in a herd.

[cogra0006]

Anyone selling their Boston Bourque yet?

[ShakesO]

i completely misjudged Reliant K, they are good... unfortunately i also misjudged autumn to ashes, they aren't quite my favorite ever... ick.

[davetheking75]

i completely misjudged Reliant K, they are good... unfortunately i also misjudged autumn to ashes, they aren't quite my favorite ever... ick.

reliant K is awesome, they get played on Freq 107 fairly often

[GAMAX1001]

Hi Espin,

I don't check the boards on the weekend, so just give me a call on the cell phone

Hi Vicsand,

Let me know if you guys plan to play ball hockey on the weekend.

Thanks

Gary

[espin]

i completely misjudged Reliant K, they are good... unfortunately i also misjudged autumn to ashes, they aren't quite my favorite ever... ick.

My girlfirend likes them, but they are too "Yay God" for me...

I think Darkest Hour is my new favorite metal band, though....:D

[zoomer]

it turns out 'Sky High' IS NOT the sequel to 'How High'

:D

[espin]

Anyone hear "ebay" by Weird Al? It's a Backstreet Boys spoof and it's good for a chuckle. I've been singing it all day...:rolleyes: :D

[ShakesO]

watching salton sea.

[espin]

I've also got "El Phantasmo and the Chicken Run Blast-O-Rama" by White Zombie in my head too.....what a weird day.....

[espin]

Hey Shakes: I don't suppose you want to go to The Collective tonight to see "The Mark Inside" and "Money Money" with me, eh? I'm bored and all my friends bailed on me...

[ShakesO]

espin - i'm thoroughly touched at the idea of being a backup friend :D:D. but i work at 6 in the am. sorry dude.

[espin]

I really enjoy my friend group, but not enough of them are music fans, you know? I need to start recruiting "show buddies" for different music genres. Punk dude, Straight Edge Hardcore guy, Metalhead, New wave hip retro guy, etc...

That way when bands come to town I can always count on my "show buddy" to come along, drink a few beers, make light chat, peruse the merch, and watch the show.

As I get older (27) I'm finding more of my friends domestication included an aversion to loud music. I'll never conform! I'll go flippin' deaf first!:D

Everyone stays home and weeps listening to Coldplay (not that there is anything wrong with that) or turns up Power 97 and says "Nickelback are awesome" while I barf in the corner and clutch my indie records...:p

[ShakesO]

nickelback... yeech. that's how you know you can't count on your friends for a good show.

then again, one of my best rocking buddies openly admits to loving the kelly clarkson cd.

[espin]

For my show buddy genre list I forgot Emo man-boy....:D

[espin]

...and morbidly obese Gothic girl....:D

[davetheking75]

...and morbidly obese Gothic girl....:D

saw a couple of those in Calgary for warped tour

[espin]

I guess I'm just bitter that my "friends" went to "the lake" with their "kids" and "wives" for some "peace and quiet" during the "long weekend" while I'm sitting home on a Friday night when all I wanted was to put on my chit-kickers and go to a rock show...:D

Sigh.......I'm gonna go get some pizza and watch He-man....:(

[espin]

saw a couple of those in Calgary for warped tour

lol!

There actually is a "plus-size" gothic mall shop in the states now...

Like I should talk, I'm a pretty fat bastard myself...no more crowd surfing or stage jumping for me.......I'd leave a frikking crater!:D

[ShakesO]

wow. the cover of salton sea is misleading... it's considerably funny. sorta..

....

....
....


holy smokes some dude got smoooooooked with an ambulance. that was gold.

[moosefan98]

Hey espin I have no friends either I'd be more then happy to be your punk friend!

[ShakesO]

what the eff is goin on in this movie?

[espin]

Hey espin I have no friends either I'd be more then happy to be your punk friend!

Are you sure you don't want to be the obese Goth-girl?:D

Just kidding, bro!

I'm always up for hitting a show...

In other news the Masters of the Universe DVDs kick azz...beautifully restored episodes..

I was raised by Skeletor and friends in the early 80s...........

I HAVE THE POWER!

[davetheking75]

new addition to my sig after a hilarious incedent on the movies/music board

[moosefan98]

u callin me fat espin? u jerk u know I'm sensative about that!!! great now i'm gonna go eat a bag of oreos. that will make me skinny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but seriously I'd love to go to a local punk show. none of my friends will go there all to busy lining up for that thornly ***!!

[davetheking75]

let me know when a punk show is happening and i may be there as well if i have money that is

[Crashz]

Hey, Nickelback was good back in the day before they became all corporate!

I want to go see Def Leppard and Tea Party

Shiza, Foo Fighters han't sold out yet. *** is goin on!?

[Crashz]

Yet there is something about goth chicks that is so damn hot. Kinda like the way a hot librarian makes you feel. Cept for those morbidly obese ones, nobody likes that *****e

[AstroDave]

Morning we're in the wildcard lead bump!

[espin]

I had a dream this morning that I was a secret agent and Samuel L Jackson was my partner. He was yelling and swearing at me and calling me "mofo" all the time. We were fighting these gangsters on speedboats like Miami Vice....

Note to self: NEVER eat Arbys before bed again........Jebus....

[gratzi]

I had a dream this morning that I was a secret agent and Samuel L Jackson was my partner. He was yelling and swearing at me and calling me "mofo" all the time. We were fighting these gangsters on speedboats like Miami Vice....

Note to self: NEVER eat Arbys before bed again........Jebus....

hahahaha you one crazy mofo espin. :D

[vicnsand]

Lions are at the top!! :D :D :D

[zoomer]

bumptime

[zoomer]

Morgbug
Freezerbox

- hows next week for you guys?

Trapper - thanks again for stopping by yesterday with your money :)

[bambam73]

Senk LMK If your going to be around tomorrow morning...If not I'll try to hook up with you when I get back from Edmonton(thursday)...........That goes for you too Gamax,Vicnsand....

I've had 3 people call me about credit card insurance, 1 person about carpet cleaning, 1 person about a school survey, and 1 person calling me about shampoo.

6 calls in an hour and a half. Does everyone just hang up(no time) or like me figure i should at least sit there and listen to their whole speech and say no thank you 5 times?

Anyways everyone have a good long weekend, i'm off to Edmonton tomorrow.

[AstroDave]

Freezerbox are ya able to meet up this week for those figs?

[zoomer]

The Devils Rejects is rated 7.3/10 on imdb.com (on 2045 votes)

screw the damned papers


edit ( house of 1000 corpses gets a 5.1/10 on 6971 votes)

[GAMAX1001]

Hi Bambam and Espin,

Give me a call if you want to meet up tomorrow.

Hi ShakesO,

When do you want to complete our swap???

Just give me a holla.

Hi Vicnsand,

Let me know when you want to get rid of those figures we talked about.

[gratzi]

Hey guys, I was thinking of starting up a Yahoo Hockey Pool but having it be a keeper league. Would you guys be interested in joining it? I'd like to have a bunch of us from the thread like in the baseball pool and I think it would be cool to try a keeper league, never been in one before. Let me know what you think.

[davetheking75]

whats the difference between a keeper league and a normal league?

[ShakesO]

Gamax - hey dude, we can probably swap this week. i gotta double check my days off, i think they are tuesday and thursday. can you PM your number to me again?

Gratzi - i'm way up for a hockey league. that's one i'd actually be ok putting in for a prize, i have a legit shot at knowing whats going on. i guess keeper would be fun (same team year to year?) but that's assuming we're around for the next 2 + years :) might not be necessary.

Espin - samuel l jackson? that's cool. i felt totally snubbed at work today when i realized someone else got a "project" (as they put it) which was essentially what my job is to do (as trainer). then i slept for like 4 hours, and had two seperate dreams where all these people from work either made fun of me or hated me or something. way harsh. lol needless to say i'm *so* excited about my shift tomorrow :D

DTK - i'd love to hear an explanation on the bastage club :)

[ShakesO]

holy smokes goOilersgo - dude, you're about to take my lunch money in the fantasy league. :eek:

[davetheking75]

DTK - i'd love to hear an explanation on the bastage club :)

The short version is this guy posted a thread Whats your favorite Blink 182 album and me and three other guys were making fun of him because of course Blink 182 sucks. he made a new thread with the same title and we went into that one also. Then we started our own thread called Whats your least favorite Blink 182 album, and he was getting pissed. We then went into all of his threads bugging him and making fun of Blink 182. He then deleted all of his threads and started bumping every thread on the Music boards trying to get our threads to go down and he got banned

[madcracker]

I'd be interested in a hockey league, if there's room.

[ShakesO]

The short version is this guy posted a thread Whats your favorite Blink 182 album and me and three other guys were making fun of him because of course Blink 182 sucks. he made a new thread with the same title and we went into that one also. Then we started our own thread called Whats your least favorite Blink 182 album, and he was getting pissed. We then went into all of his threads bugging him and making fun of Blink 182. He then deleted all of his threads and started bumping every thread on the Music boards trying to get our threads to go down and he got banned


good times.


i think i'm going to start a flame war with ImpressedTexas - in the "Fleury HOF Bound?" poll/thread.


i hate ignorant sh&tfaces.

[davetheking75]

good times.


i think i'm going to start a flame war with ImpressedTexas - in the "Fleury HOF Bound?" poll/thread.


i hate ignorant sh&tfaces.

i just read that

[ShakesO]

looks like we're gonna go to the dance DTK. should be fun.

[gratzi]

Keeper league pretty much is you keep some (not sure how many) of your players for the following season.

[ShakesO]

crazy lightning show outside my window.

time to wrap up my little flame war. doesn't seem to be going anywhere productive.

i'm down for the league gratzi. do we know what league we'd be doing it in or if we'd pay for it? (ie. yahoo?) might be cool to have the extra services... i dunno.

[gratzi]

Thinking of Yahoo like we always do.

[ShakesO]

schweet.

[ShakesO]

bambam - the last time i tried to be nice and do a survey on the phone (they kind've interest me after taking a class on marketing research - i normally give my opinion of the questions after) i got about 5 questions in until they person realized they were supposed to ask to talk to a woman. i have serious doubts about how well that research went...

[davetheking75]

i should be down for the hockey league

[bambam73]

Hey guys, I was thinking of starting up a Yahoo Hockey Pool but having it be a keeper league. Would you guys be interested in joining it? I'd like to have a bunch of us from the thread like in the baseball pool and I think it would be cool to try a keeper league, never been in one before. Let me know what you think.
Count me in.

Have any of you used hockeypool.com before?. I find it better then Yahoo.

[AstroDave]

Yeah count me in as well! A hockey draft might get me interested again!

[zoomer]

actually went to Silvercity last nite to see Devils Rejects.

whoever was running the projector needs to lose their job. the picture cut out twice (just audio) the first time 2-3 minutes, the second time about twice as long. of course it was the latest show, so when we got out there wasnt anyon at the desk or anywhere to complain to. suffice to say i'll be calling or stopping by for my refund. if i were to rent a movie and 10 mins of the video is missing , i'm getting my money back.

in other news, the movie was good times. loved everything about it really (that i could see :rolleyes: )

[Crashz]

I'm in for hockey

[bambam73]

I'm outta here.................................

[cogra0006]

Please refresh my memory. Who got a Boston Bourque in the Nhl Warehouse offer? AstroDave, Gamax1001, and CTO anyone else? Did anyone sell it?

[espin]

Sunburnt my face to a friggin' crisp today at the Goldeyes game......it hurts to blink....

[Stiller 35]

count me in for yahoo hockey

[AstroDave]

I havent sold mine yet! Still thinking about keeping it! Im also in for Fantasy hockey!

[zoomer]

long weekend bump
:)

[zoomer]

stiller got your pm

next week is fine

[gratzi]

Moving day SUCKS!!!! Had to help 2 different friends move all day today and we didn't even finish up the second one, gotta go back tomorrow morning.

[AstroDave]

Just got home from work bump!

[6five]

I might as well throw my name in for hockey. I'm pretty sure goOILERSgo and CTO would be in as well although I can't officially say one way or another.

Freezerbox, sorry for not getting back to you sooner. We can meet up today or tomorrow, it doesn't matter to me. I'm back to work tomorrow so if it is tomorrow would you be available stop by my building downtown? LMK, thanks.

[zoomer]

still need pudge/percival ff figs

Morgbug - is this week any better than last?

Freezerbox - how about you? still need cournyer from you sir

[peaceshark]

I'm in for Fantasy Hockey

[espin]

I'm in for hockey...

[moosefan98]

zoomer I went and saw devils rejects. I have never laughed at a non-comedy so much in my life. I was so dissapointed I was hoping for a messed up fck your sister I'm gonna stab u in the balls kinda movie. Not some comedy with blood here and there. But it wasn't that bad could of been better. just my opinion.

[zoomer]

anyone need a backboard? unopened

[zoomer]

hoping for an unrated dvd

and whatever happened to that directors cut of 1000 corpses?

[moosefan98]

who knows. 1000 corpses was way more fck up then this one.

[zoomer]

thats true but for a reason.

1000 corpses was setup like a classic horror film from the point of view of the 'stereotypical' lost friends, but to the nth degree, and definitely messed up. devils rejects focuses on the bad guys, kind of a buddy road movie comedy whatever. but it also has more heart than the first movie

in terms of action (but not plot), comparing them is kind of like kill bill vol2 vs kill bill vol1. people expecting the same movie should always be disappointed imho (not directed at you moosefan :p)

[moosefan98]

fair enough I just wanted a sister fcking ball stabbin cut off there boobs kinda movie. It was good don't get me wrong I just wasn't expecting to laugh so much!

[bigsexy_j]

i'm in for hockey pool

[ShakesO]

when would the hockey pool start?

65 days til puck drop according to tsn..

[madcracker]

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/8951/mcfarlanes6bc.jpg Finally, I get something good. Too bad I had to buy them on the secondary market. Thanks Richard.

[AstroDave]

Nice haul madcracker! DOes anyone have a modded XBOX for sale? Also looking for a Saints Williams, panthers and retro Davis and Falcons Favre!

[davetheking75]

anybody got a Ps2 for sale, i just need the system, no controllers or games

[cogra0006]

Looking for amonte repaint and kariya repaint. Who has these on the Winnipeg forum?

[vicnsand]

Gonna spend the big bucks now? :eek:

[zoomer]

Astrodave - how much did you pay for your pudge/percival sets?

collectorheaven - can you get me a set of Devils Rejects figs ? (neca) and how much (pm me please!)

thanks


also , i talked to my buddy jeff (finally) and he's giving me the cash for the tix on friday

[espin]

Don't know if anyone has seen this, sorry for the big pic. This is my fair warning that I may be cheering for the Panthers this season as well as my beloved Oilers.

http://www.freewebs.com/espinz/J-Bo%20Jersey.JPG

[zoomer]

nice jersey

the lettering looks sweet!

[davetheking75]

very nice

[ShakesO]

man - foote to columbus... that's awesome. i feel so bad for starscream - but i'm a hockey fan at heart, and hold a softspot for the blue jackets. hopefully a good sign of things to come as parity spreads through the league.

[davetheking75]

man - foote to columbus... that's awesome. i feel so bad for starscream - but i'm a hockey fan at heart, and hold a softspot for the blue jackets. hopefully a good sign of things to come as parity spreads through the league.

foote was/is never going to get a SP, niedermayer, gonchar, aucoin, mcCabe, boumeester, redden, chara, souray and rafalski deserve it more than him IMO.

Also being on the Avs was not helping him with Aebi coming out in 10 and tanguay will probably made next and even another sakic before him

[ShakesO]

yeah - he could always swing for a custom. i love my custom sakic.

i like cheering for the smaller bastard teams. in all honesty my avs needed to be broken up - it was fun, and i'll still collect their stuff and hope for the best for them. but the teams that really excite me, the oilers, flames, canucks, canadiens... and the races with the kings and the other western teams.

the powerhouses just aren't my style. i really started following hockey with the avalanche because of Roy... but rooting for the little guy is alot more fun.

[davetheking75]

i love cheering against the Avs sooo much when Minnesota came back from the 3-1 game deficit in 2003 i went crazy

[ShakesO]

yeah kinda like i will never cheer for detroit, dallas, toronto, new jersey, or new york to win any series against any team. (i suppose toronto goes without saying - either your the number one fan, or you want them to burn)

[bigsexy_j]

morning

[GAMAX1001]

Hi Shakeos and Espin,

I'm hoping to see you boys on Thursday

[GAMAX1001]

Hi Bambam,

Where you at??

Let me know

[moosefan98]

bump

[zoomer]

seen wedding crashers the other day.

not as funny as old school, more of a chick/date flick.

[ShakesO]

you bite your tongue zoomer :)

it's still a fun movie to watch. a little more owen and vince - a little less will ferrel (that guy is starting to get to me).

but i guess it is a pretty safe date movie. nothing worse then a movie that sucks on a date.

[ShakesO]

time to cut down the cd collection... i always maintained that i wanted to hang on to most of my cds so that my kids could listen to random old stuff - but i'm thinking they are taking up too much space.

selling cds has probably got the worst return ever.

on the plus side, it's been awhile since i've thrown on my Bone Thugs cd :D:D (the classics have to stay)

[GAMAX1001]

seen wedding crashers the other day.

not as funny as old school, more of a chick/date flick.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one.

I liked Wedding Crashers!!

May be, I have to watch Old School again

[zoomer]

dont get me wrong, i liked it, just a little more sappy than old school/dodgeball etc.

cause of the whole wedding angle. let's face it, the movie is about dating. lots of laughs tho. will ferrell gets better and better (to think i used to hate the guy :rolleyes: )

[GAMAX1001]

Ferrell was great in Wedding Crashers, His character was hilarious

Man, Now I want to see it again.

[ShakesO]

i used to love wil ferrell... now i'm waiting for him to get funny again.

[zoomer]

i'm looking for a clone trooper 3pack if anyone sees one

[gratzi]

dude you really need to fix your sig

[zoomer]

who me?

[gratzi]

yeah it was too long

[Crashz]

I still dont care for Will Ferrel too much. Anchorman was good. but aside from Jeaopardy skits, i didn't really care much for his brand of comedy. Vince Vaugh I've been enjoying, hating and enjoying again. Sometimes his characters just annoy the hell out of me. Loved him in Swingers, hated him in Made.

Oh the Family guy movie is pretty good btw.

Any of you seen Sideways? Did any of you who have seen it and have also seen Swingers think that Sideways was just a more sophisticated version of Swingers? I thought it was anyway. Great movie

[zoomer]

done
talk to your therapist about this tho
some kind of freudian envy thing

j/k :D :p

[gratzi]

I thought Wedding Crashers was really funny too.

[zoomer]

crash

i mean bump :D

[TURCO_35]

Anyone got any cheap figures for sale or a Khabbi Jets for sale or other goalie figures?

[ShakesO]

just dropped $65 on a lengthy batman storyline (most of the 24 issues)... so excited for this.

great free agency day too.

i like my new batman comics.

[Crashz]

which story arc?

[Crashz]

I have Lalime and a Belfour2 regular

[TURCO_35]

How much for them?

Also looking for loose figures for a friend.

[goOILERSgo]

Well it's nice to see that Calgary has joined the FA party. Amonte and McCarty in, however, Marty Gelinas is now a Panther. Gelinas has that weird tendency to play on teams that make it to the finals, foresight perhaps...oh question for flames fans, are Iginla and Kiprusoff signed yet?

Meanwhile, my Oilers have traded away Brad Isbister for a 4th round pick...yeesh, I hope Kevin Lowe is working overtime on something.

The best news tomorrow morning, would be a press conference announcing that George Laraque will be changing his jersey #27 to something else for the upcoming season...how good would Scott Niedermayer look in copper and blue?

Still need a number one centre, whose left?

Oh, and for the Stars fans, Modano has reportedly signed a 5-year deal with Dallas...looks likes his dogs won't be going hungry anytime soon!;)

[Crashz]

I'm pretty sure Iginla is signed to a multi year deal and Kipper got signed a while back. I forget for how long though

[davetheking75]

kipper is a RFA

[gratzi]

They are both RFA's

[Crashz]

There is no way they will let Kipper go at this point, put it this way. I think he proved that he's not a one trick pony at the World Cup. They'll ink a deal with him.

[ShakesO]

crashz - War Games. i think i'm about 4 or 6 issues short of the whole run, i'm going to scour the city on thursday looking for them.

GAMAX - hey, got your message but i wasn't sure how late i could call you. i'll call when i get home from work tomorrow.


goOilersgo - supposedly C town and Ed city are deep in the mix for neidermayer... not sure who's left for 1 forward... thornton maybe? keep in mind that there's also going to be another mad crop of FAs next season.. so blowing their load entire load this year isn't really necessary.

[Crashz]

when is the deadline for the FA is the bigger question i guess we have to be askin

[Crashz]

Anyone seen a cheap Jovo figure around?

[vicnsand]

I have mixed feelings about this free agency thing.

It's great that big teams like Detroit, Colorado, and NY won't get to go on spending sprees anymore, and it's great that teams like Calgary and Pittsburg will be in the running for more UFAs and RFAs, but it's a pain for teams like the Canucks. They drafted and traded for their core players BEFORE they were all big names, developed them, surrounded them with a cheap supporting cast, and now it looks like they might lose that core to free agency.

Well, I've heard that the NFL has been living with this for a few years.

:(

[TURCO_35]

Anyone got any loose figures for sale? Or really cheap MOMC/opener figures for sale?

[Crashz]

I have an NHL 8 set, take your pick of the litter.

[TURCO_35]

HOLY CRAP.... Pronger a Oiler :eek: SO BAD

[Crashz]

Didn't think he'd ever leave St L

[TURCO_35]

I have an NHL 8 set, take your pick of the litter.

How much for Lalime, Linden, Roberts, and Chelios each and for the four?

[Crashz]

Roberts I dont have cuz it's the chase. How's 10/each sound?

[davetheking75]

i do not get why the blues fans feel they got so ripped off, they got brewer who is a #1 defenceman and 2 other players

[bigsexy_j]

Wow, Oilers got Pronger!?!

[gratzi]

"You know what really grinds my gears? You America, **** You!"

[zoomer]

when are they gonna get some new oldies?!?

[GAMAX1001]

Naslund is going to be a CANUCK again. Woohoo!!!!

[GAMAX1001]

Gonchar is a Penguin

GO CANUCKS, FLAMES and PENGUINS.

[6five]

hmmm, I don't know how I feel about the Brewer/Pronger deal. Unless the Oilers felt that Brewer was going to walk after his contract was up I would rather have Brewer at this point in his career over Pronger at this point in his career. I guess no Oilers Brewer fig but the possibility for an Oilers Pronger repaint exists now...

[gratzi]

Iginla re-signs with Calgary, 3 years for 21 milllion

[zoomer]

good things are happening.

CTO - still waiting on Morgbug

Morgbug - still waiting on you :p
Freezerbox - next week ?

[zoomer]

avp at st V

and i scored a Roddy Piper (last one)

[Senk]

Senk LMK If your going to be around tomorrow morning...If not I'll try to hook up with you when I get back from Edmonton(thursday)...........That goes for you too Gamax,Vicnsand....

I've had 3 people call me about credit card insurance, 1 person about carpet cleaning, 1 person about a school survey, and 1 person calling me about shampoo.

6 calls in an hour and a half. Does everyone just hang up(no time) or like me figure i should at least sit there and listen to their whole speech and say no thank you 5 times?

Anyways everyone have a good long weekend, i'm off to Edmonton tomorrow.

I was out of town on the weekend. Just getting caught up now.
You live in Charleswood, right? I am going to be out in that neighborhood
on Saturday morning. I could drop the figs off if you wanted.

As for the telemarketers, ask them to put you on their 'don't call list'

[vicnsand]

bambam, if you need to contact me, just call.

Naslund! Naslund! Naslund! Now we just need to get Bertuzzi back on the ice and lock up one or two more guys. I think it could be a good run for the cup this time around.

[espin]

I'm really excited about Pronger as a Mighty Oiler! I liked Brewer but he gives me the feeling that he'll always be an underachiever. Pronger will be a monster for the Oil.

Now we just need some scoring!

[zoomer]

i like pronger as an oiler too. not sure about their goaltending tho

this year should be really exciting (for at least the first few months :) ) since everybody's getting all hyped about their teams and all the fa activity

an ottawa against edmonton (or calgary) final would be great , but i'm not sure it would make bettman very happy

[vicnsand]

What on earth are the Oilers doing? They're getting older by the trade/signing, and they're kissing their youthfulness goodbye.

[zoomer]

time to start customizing your leetch leafs to boston

[ShakesO]

yeah - i'm wondering about people getting way too carried away.

but peca is a decent player. and you can't keep waiting to win. although i've definately always loved the youth and speed of the oils. hopefully that doesn't change too much.

[moosefan98]

I love my oilers and will stand by them but that doesn't mean I have to agree with what they are doing?? geez giving up on Brewer and York come on those guys are gonna be stars.

[zoomer]

they're trying to keep up with an age-old tradition :p

[espin]

Peca is a win too. York is another guy who has some bonifide skill, but I don't think he's got the true grit and tenacity to be a real winner. I would rather have a healthy Peca in the playoffs anyday. Now they need some speed to play with Hemsky.

Get Hejduk!