OFFICIAL Yankees vs. Red Sox trash talking thread

[orionquest]

Wells is finished. Get over it. He was crap before he got hurt and crap after he got hurt. Its hard for a fat old guy to get his groove back.


For the record, he was a fat old guy when he pitched a perfect game for your boys.

[orionquest]

Me saying "zero fear" was a veiled jab at Red Sox fans who use to always say that. I still view the Red Sox as the Yankee's whipping boys. 1 World Series win does not change that.

Fair enough. We still view them as the team that rolled over four straight and allowed the greatest comeback in baseball history. But who's counting?

The Yankees are getting hot. They have a very solid roster now that will be adding Cano, Matsui, Sheff, and Dotel. Detroit is still the team to beat, but everyone better be on notice. The Yankees are coming.

Red Sox will be battling for the Wild Card again this year like the previous 3 years. Unfortuanately they'll be battling the White Sox and Twins, 2 teams that have better pitching staffs.

I really wish Robertbee was here to spread his gospel of RSN.

The Yankees are coming? Where did they go? A couple of rambunctious Sox fans may have dismissed them, but I don't think that anyone reasonable ever counted them out. But if you think that the Red Sox are now going to roll over and give your boys an easy walk, you're kidding yourself.

It's going to be a scrappy August, for sure. But if the Sox are comfortable for the next four weeks, they'll be in fine shape when Nixon, Varitek, Wakefield, Wells and Foulke ease back in for September.

Nothing's set, and if the past few seasons haven't convinced you of that, you haven't been paying attention. The Yankees had a great series against Toronto, but a four-game losing streak can creep up and bite any team in the behind. Be confident in your team, but, to quote Mr. Solo, "Great, kid, don't get c0cky!"

[Mavrik28]

For the record, he was a fat old guy when he pitched a perfect game for your boys.

That was over 8 years ago. he was actually good then, now he's not.

[orionquest]

That was over 8 years ago. he was actually good then, now he's not.

Kind of like Randy Johnson.

Sorry... that was just too easy. ;)

[Tanner2126]

does boston lead in come from behind wins??? if not, im sure their up there.

[Bronx Bombers]

Yankees got Proctor from LA when they traded Ventura there.


He never played any games with LA.

[Bronx Bombers]

does boston lead in come from behind wins??? if not, im sure their up there.
That is one of the stupidest stats in baseball. If your losing 1-0 in bottom first and get 2 runs and go on to win 2-1 it counts as a comeback win. And Yankees are now sole leaders of AL East.

[Therman Merman]

***Breaking News Alert***

Fausto Carmona did not blow the save tonight!! Congrats to Fausto and his family!




Yes I know he didn't come into pitch.

[Tanner2126]

He never played any games with LA.

I know, but its not like we drafted him. Im sure he had more time in the LA minor leagues then Yankees.

[Tanner2126]

***Breaking News Alert***

Fausto Carmona did not blow the save tonight!! Congrats to Fausto and his family!




Yes I know he didn't come into pitch.

HAHA!!!! Yankees should be 3 games up :mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Mavrik28]

Kind of like Randy Johnson.

Sorry... that was just too easy. ;)

To think RJ is still better then Josh "homerun" Beckett.

Nice CLUTCH game by manny and Oritz. Bottom of the ninth down 1 run and they both did the big NADA.

Good thing the Red Sox are trading for another crappy catcher that can't field or hit.

[Sbells]

To think RJ is still better then Josh "homerun" Beckett.

Nice CLUTCH game by manny and Oritz. Bottom of the ninth down 1 run and they both did the big NADA.

Good thing the Red Sox are trading for another crappy catcher that can't field or hit.

You are such a fool. Why would you talk trash about Ortiz NOT tying/winning the game? That's just idiotic. You should root for the Royals, not even Yankee fans deserve to be associated with the type of crap you spew.

I'm stunned.

[Sbells]

I take that back. I enjoy watching you make yourself look foolish. Stay a Yankees fan, and start posting in here MORE often.

[Bronx Bombers]

Yankees should be up by 50 games cause nobody in divison deserves to win any games.

[Mavrik28]

You are such a fool. Why would you talk trash about Ortiz NOT tying/winning the game? That's just idiotic. You should root for the Royals, not even Yankee fans deserve to be associated with the type of crap you spew.

I'm stunned.

This is a TRASH TALKING THREAD you fool. You and yukoner are 2 of the only idiots on this board that actually pay attetnion to what I write. I'd say that makes you the fools.

In fact why don't the 2 of you go rent a nice cottage up in Canada and watch tapes of the Yankees losing. I bet it would make you 2 nancies happy.

[Bronx Bombers]

Ballgame over!...World Series over!...Yankees Win!!..Theeeeeeee Yankess win!

[Mark Weber]

It's going to be a scrappy August, for sure. But if the Sox are comfortable for the next four weeks, they'll be in fine shape when Nixon, Varitek, Wakefield, Wells and Foulke ease back in for September.

Sorry OQ, but it's YOUR turn to be scrappy. Boston should've stretched their lead when the Yankees were short-handed. The trade deadline has helped New York significantly, and Cano is almost back with Matsui arriving shortly after. It's your turn to try and win with some significant holes (Varitek, Nixon, Clement & Wakefield).

[Bronx Bombers]

Cano will come back lead to 3 games, Matsui 5 game lead, Dotel and Sheff 10 games.

[orionquest]

Sorry OQ, but it's YOUR turn to be scrappy. Boston should've stretched their lead when the Yankees were short-handed. The trade deadline has helped New York significantly, and Cano is almost back with Matsui arriving shortly after. It's your turn to try and win with some significant holes (Varitek, Nixon, Clement & Wakefield).

Mark, I couldn't agree more, and I guess I just didn't make my point clear. I agree, the Sox should be sitting on a five game lead right now, and some bad pitching in combination with a couple of foolish management moves have us in this hole. I've always admitted that I felt the Yankees were playing above their ability, and I've been very impressed with them. The Lidle pickup was a great move, too. (I'm no worried about Abreau... I think he's the 2006 equivalent of the Mondesi acquisition.)

Do I think the Sox can do it? Of course. Do I think they will? I really don't know. I think the mid-August schedule will make or break them, and that scares me.

Now, am I convinced that the Yankess have wrapped up the East? Heck, no. And I don't think you're convinced either. Well, Mavrik probably is. The only thing I'm sure of is some great baseball is coming. :D

[Yukoner]

This is a TRASH TALKING THREAD you fool. You and yukoner are 2 of the only idiots on this board that actually pay attetnion to what I write. I'd say that makes you the fools.

In fact why don't the 2 of you go rent a nice cottage up in Canada and watch tapes of the Yankees losing. I bet it would make you 2 nancies happy.

Mavrik admits he writes total crap, and somehow lambastes ME for someone else calling him on it?

Mark and the rest of the Yankee boys, do any of you actually defend this bozo?

[Vinnie4]

You are such a fool. Why would you talk trash about Ortiz NOT tying/winning the game? That's just idiotic. You should root for the Royals, not even Yankee fans deserve to be associated with the type of crap you spew.

I'm stunned.
I just think he posted about Ortiz because all we ever hear about is how clutch he is, and 3 different threads pop up every time he does it. I see it as just a little push back against Boston fans.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Considering that Ortiz has 21 walk-off/game-winning hits since 2003, which is like 9 more than the guy who's in second place over that time period, he deserves the pub.

orionquest was bang on, after 2004 Yankee fans have really changed, their indifference towards the Red Sox before 2004 has turned to hostility after 2004 which is pretty funny considering how much they used to bash Red Sox fans for being whiny idiots. Now, there is no difference between the two, this thread is living proof of that.

[LI-Mike]

its not a contract year so the Javy Lopez pickup wont help

Hmmm.Lopez is in the last year of his deal..So in fact it is a contract year for him...

[Bronx Bombers]

Considering that Ortiz has 21 walk-off/game-winning hits since 2003, which is like 9 more than the guy who's in second place over that time period, he deserves the pub.

orionquest was bang on, after 2004 Yankee fans have really changed, their indifference towards the Red Sox before 2004 has turned to hostility after 2004 which is pretty funny considering how much they used to bash Red Sox fans for being whiny idiots. Now, there is no difference between the two, this thread is living proof of that.


26 > 6...........Kinda a big difference;)

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

I don't know what that has to do with what I said but, okay.

[Arodjr]

Who Knew? .889: Batting average of Boston's David Ortiz (8-for-9) in walkoff situations in the ninth inning or later this year, including five homers and 15 RBI. In those situations since the start of the 2004 postseason, he's 11-for-14 (.786) with seven homers and 20 RBI.

(I got this from foxsports)

[Vinnie4]

Considering that Ortiz has 21 walk-off/game-winning hits since 2003, which is like 9 more than the guy who's in second place over that time period, he deserves the pub.
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, I'm just saying I'm sick of hearing it.
orionquest was bang on, after 2004 Yankee fans have really changed, their indifference towards the Red Sox before 2004 has turned to hostility after 2004 which is pretty funny considering how much they used to bash Red Sox fans for being whiny idiots. Now, there is no difference between the two, this thread is living proof of that.
My opinion toward Boston fans changed after 2004 because the ones around here became nearly intolerable. And the whiny idiot label could be applied to the fans of other teams in the same division.

[Bronx Bombers]

Red Soxs fans best argument now is "Well at least they won a world series this centery"

[Vinnie4]

Red Soxs fans best argument now is "Well at least they won a world series this centery"
Wow, I just had a robertbee flashback.

[Mark Weber]

Why, because of the brutal spelling? :)

[Bronx Bombers]

Why, because of the brutal spelling? :)




Wow i never thought a fellow Yankees fan would turn against me.;)

[Bronx Bombers]

Ballgame Over Yankees Win! Theeeee Yankees Win!!!!

[Tanner2126]

Boston won. 3-2. Ortiz had 2 solo homeruns. :eek:

[ToightLikeATiger]

Boston won. 3-2. Ortiz had 2 solo homeruns. :eek:

thats what MVP's do lol:p

Redsox must have come across a black cat or someone walked under a ladder. Injuries are just piling up. A new one each game.

Nixon and Varitek. Now Lowell and Mirabelli.

Nixon although tough to see out hasnt been missed yet cause Wily Mo has filled in nicely. Varitek is gonna be missed. Now that Mirabelli is out it makes things even worse. Lopez did a good job last night filling in but he is gonna need to hit.

Lowell is a bigger loss then Nixon. Hopefully he doesnt have to go on the dl. Dont know how bad the foot really is. Cant lose a gold glove 3b and another good stick in that lineup. Alex Cora is a good utility player but i dont wanna run him out there every game.

luckily Coco is starting to hit some now. maybe that will help. Youkilis may be moved out of the leadoff spot eventually just because they need a RBI guy hitting 5 or 6 with Varitek out.

Big night tonight. David Wells 2nd start. We will see if he improves.

Thankfull Kazmir is on the DL and the Redsox dont see him:D

[Tanner2126]

When you look at his numbers and how far he is in front of everyone, imagine if Pujols was healthy the whole year. :eek: He would probably be past 45 homeruns with 130 rbis at this point :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[ToightLikeATiger]

When you look at his numbers and how far he is in front of everyone, imagine if Pujols was healthy the whole year. :eek: He would probably be past 45 homeruns with 130 rbis at this point :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

i dont know... maybe. Pujols lacks a Manny Ramirez hitting behind him. So he was gonna stop getting pitched too before he got hurt. If he starts to go on another streak like that they will give him the same treatment.

[Vinnie4]

thats what MVP's do lol:p

Redsox must have come across a black cat or someone walked under a ladder. Injuries are just piling up. A new one each game.

Nixon and Varitek. Now Lowell and Mirabelli.

Nixon although tough to see out hasnt been missed yet cause Wily Mo has filled in nicely. Varitek is gonna be missed. Now that Mirabelli is out it makes things even worse. Lopez did a good job last night filling in but he is gonna need to hit.

Lowell is a bigger loss then Nixon. Hopefully he doesnt have to go on the dl. Dont know how bad the foot really is. Cant lose a gold glove 3b and another good stick in that lineup. Alex Cora is a good utility player but i dont wanna run him out there every game.

luckily Coco is starting to hit some now. maybe that will help. Youkilis may be moved out of the leadoff spot eventually just because they need a RBI guy hitting 5 or 6 with Varitek out.

Big night tonight. David Wells 2nd start. We will see if he improves.

Thankfull Kazmir is on the DL and the Redsox dont see him:D
Now you know how we Yankee fans felt earlier this season. Just be thankful it isn't Ortiz or Ramirez. If that happens, the Red Sox ship is sunk.

[Stephanie14]

Wow, I just had a robertbee flashback.

Oh baby lol! You're so funny :) <3

[Bronx Bombers]

What happened to him anyway?

[Bronx Bombers]

Yankees will get Matsui, Cano and Dotel back and they will be too far ahead of the Red Sox when they get their guys back to catch up.

[Mavrik28]

Wells is done and Hansen continues to be unimpressive.

Yanks lose, but its all good because the red SAWX failed to make up any ground.

[Mavrik28]

Considering that Ortiz has 21 walk-off/game-winning hits since 2003, which is like 9 more than the guy who's in second place over that time period, he deserves the pub.

orionquest was bang on, after 2004 Yankee fans have really changed, their indifference towards the Red Sox before 2004 has turned to hostility after 2004 which is pretty funny considering how much they used to bash Red Sox fans for being whiny idiots. Now, there is no difference between the two, this thread is living proof of that.

And Blow Jays fans are just as whiny.

I act like an idiot on this board because its damn funny. People on this board take crap WAY too serious.

[Mavrik28]

Mavrik admits he writes total crap, and somehow lambastes ME for someone else calling him on it?

Mark and the rest of the Yankee boys, do any of you actually defend this bozo?
I love throwing jabs at you Yukoner, you're a Blue Jays fan. You must love watching the team go down the drain. Are the Blue Jays ever going to be good again? Do you watch the 1992 and 93 World Series and cry yourself to sleep?

[Mavrik28]

I take that back. I enjoy watching you make yourself look foolish. Stay a Yankees fan, and start posting in here MORE often.

Do you even cheer for a team? Last I checked West Hollywood doesn't have a baseball team.

[Mavrik28]

Javy Lopez 0-9 as a Red Sox. Maybe he needs to get back on the winstrol.

Meanwhile former Red Sox catcher Josh Bard in 70 games for the Padres

AVG .339 | HR 6 | RBI 28 | OBP .413 | SLG .533 | OPS .946

You gave him and Meredith up for Mirabelli. Great trade Theo. Its a good thing you didn't make any trades at the deadline, you were likely to trade quality young players for crappy veterans.

[Bronx Bombers]

Cant we all just get along? On second thought i cant get along with a Red Sox fan.

[SkoalStangGT]

Cant we all just get along? On second thought i cant get along with a Red Sox fan.


what about a fellow Browns fan at least?:D

[SkoalStangGT]

Javy Lopez 0-9 as a Red Sox. Maybe he needs to get back on the winstrol.

Meanwhile former Red Sox catcher Josh Bard in 70 games for the Padres

AVG .339 | HR 6 | RBI 28 | OBP .413 | SLG .533 | OPS .946

You gave him and Meredith up for Mirabelli. Great trade Theo. Its a good thing you didn't make any trades at the deadline, you were likely to trade quality young players for crappy veterans.


I think Theo use to sell cars before he became a GM for the Sox..."Bring it in, tow it in, we will trade anything, every new vehicle must go -Everything must GO!" Nice Theo...don't jump the gun so soon.

[Tanner2126]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060806/capt.07778c8f5a7648769cd7c491282faa7a.red_sox_devil_rays_baseball_spd104.jpg


Time to go back to DH

[Jhazon]

Yankee fans choose to root for the Yankees because they have to. They are the type of people that need to feel good. When the Yankees are lossing, the mouths close up and they go into hidding. Only recently have Yankee fans come out to say to me "Your Red Sox suck". Now where were they a month ago? Why didn't I walk over to them and say "Yankees are lossing, they suck"?

During the Fifa World Cup, I met a guy wearing a Manchester United jersey. During the game we talked about soccer/football and I learned he had no idea how to play the game. I asked him why he went through all the trouble to buy a ManU jersey and he said "because their the best team." When the topic went on to baseball, he said "I'm a big Yankees fan". I replied, "No doubt." A few days later I met another guy wearing another Manchester jersey and a (you guessed it) Yankees hat. I had to laugh. When I talked to him about soccer, I learned he was also rooting for England. Why? Because they are the "best team/full of stars". He had no idea... clueless.

Just an example of the minds of Yankees fans. They cheer for different reasons than Red Sox fans. Not because their grandfathers cheered for the team... not because of the love of the game and it's grassroots... not because they understand winning and lossing... But because they want to cheer for a team that "wins" and has some "stars", they want to belong to a group of winners. Life seems easy when your a Yankee fan. I have more respect for a Brewers fan.

If a new sport came out tomorrow.. let's call it "Bingball". Now let's say that the first champship team for Bingball were they "BullStraps". I would have to believe that the following year, 90% of the Bullstrap fans would be Yankee fans. Why? Because the Bullstraps won and it's always easier to cheer for a winner.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2006/07/28/kfed256.jpg Kevin Federline cheers for the Yankees... because he's a winner too.

[Vinnie4]

Yankee fans choose to root for the Yankees because they have to. They are the type of people that need to feel good. When the Yankees are lossing, the mouths close up and they go into hidding. Only recently have Yankee fans come out to say to me "Your Red Sox suck". Now where were they a month ago? Why didn't I walk over to them and say "Yankees are lossing, they suck"?

During the Fifa World Cup, I met a guy wearing a Manchester United jersey. During the game we talked about soccer/football and I learned he had no idea how to play the game. I asked him why he went through all the trouble to buy a ManU jersey and he said "because their the best team." When the topic went on to baseball, he said "I'm a big Yankees fan". I replied, "No doubt." A few days later I met another guy wearing another Manchester jersey and a (you guessed it) Yankees hat. I had to laugh. When I talked to him about soccer, I learned he was also rooting for England. Why? Because they are the "best team/full of stars". He had no idea... clueless.

Just an example of the minds of Yankees fans. They cheer for different reasons than Red Sox fans. Not because their grandfathers cheered for the team... not because of the love of the game and it's grassroots... not because they understand winning and lossing... But because they want to cheer for a team that "wins" and has some "stars", they want to belong to a group of winners. Life seems easy when your a Yankee fan. I have more respect for a Brewers fan.

If a new sport came out tomorrow.. let's call it "Bingball". Now let's say that the first champship team for Bingball were they "BullStraps". I would have to believe that the following year, 90% of the Bullstrap fans would be Yankee fans. Why? Because the Bullstraps won and it's always easier to cheer for a winner.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2006/07/28/kfed256.jpg Kevin Federline cheers for the Yankees... because he's a winner too.
You Boston fans crack me up. I'm a 3rd generation Yankee fan, so no, I'm not a fairweather fan. Around here, the Boston fan base tripled after 2004. This tells me 1 of 2 things.....either they were all too ashamed to admit being a Red Sox fan before that, or that they jumped on the bandwagon.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Wow, great response seeing how his post clearly had to do with the Red Sox.

[Therman Merman]

Wow, great response seeing how his post clearly had to do with the Red Sox.Notorious, you are not an idiot. I've been on these boards for over 4 years now. (Pay no attention to the signup date) I've had fun conversations with you in the past, and I always enjoy your participation in the Raw threads. But you have been acting like a complete jackass in this thread lately. I don't know if it's because your Blue Jays finally bowed out like we all expected, or the Yankees being in first place again just irks you. Or maybe it's a little of both. You gotta lighten up a little.

Jhazon made a post generalizing all Yankees fans as being frontrunners, which is an ignorant statement. Vinnie responded by pointing out the influx of new Red Sox "fans" since 2004. So actually it was a great response, because how easily we turn a blind eye to something happening within our own fan base. Simple case of the pot and the kettle. (I'm sure you know the saying)

The fact is simple, both teams have plenty of real fans, and fair weather fans. I suffered through the 80's with the Yankees, and relished in their success in the mid to late 90's. So I, like Vinnie, take offense to anyone suggesting that I'm a Yankees fan because it's "easier to cheer for a winner". On a side note, I'm sure there were a few more Jays fans after '92 and '93. It happens.

And as for the ManU/Yankees connection. Even those who know nothing about either sport are told from an early age that those two are the best in their respctive sports. I know nothing about soccer, but if you asked me to name a couple of great teams, I'd probably say ManU and A.C. Milan, only because those are the only two teams an outsider like me hears about. For all I know, they could both be garbage right now. Same thing goes for baseball and the Yankees.

Hate the Yankees all you want. You're certainly allowed to. But let's not resort to childish garbage and lame generaliztions to vocalize that hatred. Where's Orionsquest when you need him?

[Jhazon]

Jhazon made a post generalizing all Yankees fans as being frontrunners, which is an ignorant statement.

Hate the Yankees all you want. You're certainly allowed to. But let's not resort to childish garbage and lame generaliztions to vocalize that hatred. Where's Orionsquest when you need him?

First off, this whole thread has been "childish". I've nothing of any interest. Just a bunch of tennis... back and forth... so I threw my ball in. Secondly, I don't "hate" yankee fan or the team. I am glad you cleared everything up and sorted out my statement, put a Yankee reverse spin on it. Congrads you win. (*wink I know you like that)

All remarks aside... this is baseball. And I am damn proud of it. AL East has two of the best teams the sport has ever seen. Anyways...

[Bronx Bombers]

I root for Yankees cause i lived in NY my whole life and because my grandfather lived in Bronx most his life and grew up watchin Dimaggio, Mantle, Yogi all those guys.

[Bronx Bombers]

what about a fellow Browns fan at least?:D

Alright Go Browns!!

[Bronx Bombers]

Its funny after 2001 i kept seeing Arizona hats and T-shirts in school then after 2002 it was Angels 2003 Marlins 2004 Red Sox 2005 White Soxs. And they were same people wearing them too.

[Jhazon]

Its funny after 2001 i kept seeing Arizona hats and T-shirts in school then after 2002 it was Angels 2003 Marlins 2004 Red Sox 2005 White Soxs. And they were same people wearing them too.

Yeap, no doubt those people exist.... many of us have an aunt that will buy things for Xmas... I had an aunt buy me a Phillies hat back in the mid-1980s. lol. Then there are those folks that buy old team wera, like the guys I met a few days ago with a new Montreal Expos hat.

[Vinnie4]

Its funny after 2001 i kept seeing Arizona hats and T-shirts in school then after 2002 it was Angels 2003 Marlins 2004 Red Sox 2005 White Soxs. And they were same people wearing them too.
I worked with a guy that did that with the Bucs, then the Patriots. LOL We told him we'g get him a shirt with a big velcro patch on the front, that way he could easily change team logos after the Super Bowl.

[Stephanie14]

I worked with a guy that did that with the Bucs, then the Patriots. LOL We told him we'g get him a shirt with a big velcro patch on the front, that way he could easily change team logos after the Super Bowl.

Haha :) <3

[Mavrik28]

Up 3 games in the loss column.

Congrats to Papi for his third straight 40 homerun season. The MVP will be a nice consolation prize for missing the playoffs.

[Vinnie4]

When Mavrik starts getting rattled by Blue Jays fans, you know Yankee fans are starting to feel the heat. Jays took 3 out of 4 from the Yankees, so I'd say you should be worried. Lick your wounds and start praying for the Red Sox to lose every day, because the Yankees are clearly not good enough to play themselves into the AL East lead, they can only hope that they back into it.

As I have said before, Yankees will be hopelessly out of the pennant race by 8/31.
Quote me all you want.
Hey champ, you sure you don't want to change your prediction?

[Mavrik28]

Seriously, where the heck is robertbee? Did he get banned for good?

[Vinnie4]

Seriously, where the heck is robertbee? Did he get banned for good?
If he was banned, wouldn't it say so under his name?

[Mavrik28]

If he was banned, wouldn't it say so under his name?

It should, but maybe Weber decided not to put it so people wouldn't whine about his ban like last time.

[Bronx Bombers]

Who cares as long as hes gone.

[Bronx Bombers]

Good news Cano will be back tuesday vs Chicago and just in time cause Cairo was placed on 15-day DL. This week will be Bostons best chance to catch NY cause Yankees face White Soxs and Angels while Boston will face Royals and Orioles.

[Mavrik28]

Good news Cano will be back tuesday vs Chicago and just in time cause Cairo was placed on 15-day DL. This week will be Bostons best chance to catch NY cause Yankees face White Soxs and Angels while Boston will face Royals and Orioles.

Yanks swept the White Sox last time they played, so no concern there. Angels games are at home so thats a big plus.

Red Sox struggled with the Indians and D'Rays. There is no guarantee that they walk right over the Royals and Orioles.

[Yukoner]

I love throwing jabs at you Yukoner, you're a Blue Jays fan. You must love watching the team go down the drain. Are the Blue Jays ever going to be good again? Do you watch the 1992 and 93 World Series and cry yourself to sleep?

I'll admit, I shed a little tear after watching those old tapes. But then I throw in the 2004 ALCS and laugh myself hoarse.

[Mavrik28]

I'll admit, I shed a little tear after watching those old tapes. But then I throw in the 2004 ALCS and laugh myself hoarse.

But he Blue Jays didn't make the playoffs in 2004. Why would you care what the Yankees do? You should actually try cheering for your sad excuse for a team. Which team sucks more in Toronto - the Leafs or Jays?

[Mavrik28]

Red SAWX are dropping games like the big dig drops tiles.

[Bronx Bombers]

Man you are kinda annoying Mavrik and your not even a true Yankee fan.

[Yukoner]

But he Blue Jays didn't make the playoffs in 2004. Why would you care what the Yankees do? You should actually try cheering for your sad excuse for a team. Which team sucks more in Toronto - the Leafs or Jays? I could come up with a few reason why your voice is hoarse, its all that d.... oh wait this is the McFarlane boards I can't go there.

Watching the worst collapse in MLB history makes for an interesting week of viewing, no matter who you cheer for. I mean, really... it was like watching the Titanic go down, with Jeter and A-Rod as Leonardo and Kate. Actually, I think Titanic cost less to make than the 2004 Yankees, and certainly made more money for their investors.

My team may not have won since 1993 (and thanks to labour unrest, we'll never know if they could have made it three in a row) but at least we'll never be saddled with that mess.

For the record, why would I care what the Leafs are up to? How are the WNBA's Connecticut Sun doing? (FYI, I had to look that one up.)

[Mark Weber]

Tough loss for NY last night but not nearly as disappointing as Boston's...

[Bronx Bombers]

Id rather Yankees get swept and red sox get swept than Yankees and red sox both getting 2/3.

[Bronx Bombers]

I think they should not trade for anyone/sign anyone in offseason and build up their farm system. Theres gonna be 4-5 young guys in team next year anyway.

[orionquest]

Tough loss for NY last night but not nearly as disappointing as Boston's...

You got that right!

While the Yankees have had a couple of tight games, the Red Sox are in an outright S-L-U-M-P. They look tired and uninspired. I was hoping for some spark and scrappiness while some of the key players are down.

The Yankees deserve full credit for keeping their heads up during a difficult stretch, and Torre should get the credit he deserves. Many of the key parts of the Boston squad that need to step it, like Coco Crisp, are really struggling.

Fortunately, it's a long season, and anything can happen. But Red Sox Nation is definitely frustrated. :mad:

[Bronx Bombers]

Yes 3 games up

[Arodjr]

Go Yankees!! Rivera back to form tonight!!

[Reagz]

Hey Sox fans .... you ever going to sign a GM?

[GoNiners]

You got that right!

While the Yankees have had a couple of tight games, the Red Sox are in an outright S-L-U-M-P. They look tired and uninspired. I was hoping for some spark and scrappiness while some of the key players are down.

The Yankees deserve full credit for keeping their heads up during a difficult stretch, and Torre should get the credit he deserves. Many of the key parts of the Boston squad that need to step it, like Coco Crisp, are really struggling.

Fortunately, it's a long season, and anything can happen. But Red Sox Nation is definitely frustrated. :mad:

Sorry no Varitek cheapshotting our players while wearing his catching gear :p

[orionquest]

Sorry no Varitek cheapshotting our players while wearing his catching gear :p

You're gonna bring that one up? Please! Your boy should have realized that we don't throw at guys hitting .240. ;)

Well, the slump just got deeper. Tonight's loss was painful, as the Sox are giving away games to Tampa and KC. WIth the ChiSox-Angels-Yanks-Tigers run coming up, they need a spark ASAP.

[Mark Weber]

Nice to see that Papelbon is human too - still scary good though.

[Bronx Bombers]

Nice to Yankees 3 games up....

[ToightLikeATiger]

At this point the Redsox are done. Im not giving up on them because they could still sneak in the playoffs if they can stay close enough and get guys healthy.

but if they continue to play like they are its over. Schilling is the only good starter right now. everyone else cant pitch deep in games and is mediocre. The bullpen is what i expected. Young guys learning on the job. Cant expect them to carry the load and be perfect during a pennant race. They were not expected to contribute so much this year but with Seanez and Tavarez sucking and Foulke hurt they were forced into action.

Timlin is finally showing his age.

Offensively this team just isnt pounding the ball like the should. Besides Ortiz and Manny offensively they are cutting the mustard. Not getting the key hits when needed like the past years. Of course missing Varitek and Nixon hurts that.

Redsox need to rally up and start showing improvement. Especially Beckett. Crisp and Lowell at the plate.

Right now i wouldnt want the Redsox to make the playoffs. It would just be another embarrassing exit like last year. Now if Beckett pitches like he can, Wakefield comes back healthy, Wells regains form and Foulke is back and healthy i think they could be dangerous in the playoffs. But all of those are huge IFS.

The Redsox didnt trade their young guys to make a run at the World Series just for this year. I agree with that move and always will. Lester and Hansen should be very good major league pitchers. They are very young and cant be expected to carry a team right now though.

Id much rather miss the playoffs this year and not trade the young guys then make the playoffs this year and not have those guys for 10 years. All this experience these young guys are getting now will only help them next year.

im not giving up on the Redsox because i have seen them come from a 3-0 deficit to win a ALCS. They need to start winning now though and keep it withing 1 or 2 games until the calvary comes. Hopefully Schilling stops the bleeding tonight and they can go into Baltimore with a little confidence

[orionquest]

Toight, I think we're all feeling the pain right now. The Sox are relying on a lot of young arms, and the guys who would be best at weathering the storm are the names on the DL: Wakefield, Nixon, Varitek.

If they can find the spark and get hot in September, anything is possible. But, the upcoming stretch of Detriot-New York-L.A. is pretty brutual, and it could well eliminate them. The best teams are the ones that can shrug off weeks like this last one. We'll know soon enough if our boys are up to the task!

The player who, in my eyes, really needs to find his groove is Crisp. Is Coc was hitting .300 as expected, with a higher OBP, he could take the leadoff spot and let Youk put some weight into the bottom of the order. But, right now, everyone seems listless.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Im not as worried about winning it all this year as most people are though. I realize you cant win every year. In order to give your self a chance to win you gotta build a team. Thats why im happy with not losing the young guys via trade.

Now before the injuries the Redsox looked good. Right now they look like an average team. But that being said if the young guys can keep them in it long enough they have shot. its not the end of the world if the dont though.

unfortunetly for Boston noone wanted to give them players at the trade deadline. Teams actually wanted good prospects for their players.

[Arodjr]

Wow. There's a concept. Maybe the Phillies should take a look at that!! ;) Teams actually wanted good prospects for their players.

[Mark Weber]

Lester and Hansen should be very good major league pitchers. They are very young and cant be expected to carry a team right now though.

I'd much rather miss the playoffs this year and not trade the young guys then make the playoffs this year and not have those guys for 10 years. All this experience these young guys are getting now will only help them next year.

I agree with enerything Tiger said here. And ten years from now it'll be fun to watch Lester's Mariners face Hansen's Mets in the World Series. :)

[orionquest]

I agree with enerything Tiger said here. And ten years from now it'll be fun to watch Lester's Mariners face Hansen's Mets in the World Series. :)

I'm sure it will be. And I'm sure that Yankees skipper Derek Jeter will tell the press how frustrated he with Robinson Cano as he continues to underperform while fans gripe about how overpaid he is! ;)

Ahh... it's good to have you back, Mark.

[Bronx Bombers]

Bernie has a better cance of being manager, imagin Bernie Manager and Jeter Bench coach..

[orionquest]

Bernie has a better cance of being manager, imagin Bernie Manager and Jeter Bench coach..

Yeah, you're probably right. I envision tough, hard-fought Sox-Yanks battles years from now, with Williams and Varitek calling the shots.

[Mark Weber]

Varitek is absolutely manager material - I completely agree with you OQ.

[Tanner2126]

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/464807/2/istockphoto_464807_broom.jpg

KC sweeps the Red Soxs.

[Reagz]

Cant wait to hear the boston sports radio tomorrow. It will be music to me ears hearing all of Red Sux nation ***** and moan about getting swept by the Royals.

[therocksays]

Where is robertbee now. Sure doesn't hesitate to talk trash when Boston is winning or the Yankees or below Boston. At least Yankee fans talk whether they are winning or losing. Also, Mark, how many are still complaining about Cano figure being reeased. Since coming off DL he is 7 for 11 with 4 doubles and a homer. He will fit in very well in New York for years to come. And i agree with the rest of the Red Sox Nation. Team looks terrible right now and seem to be slowly fading out, but still lots of ball to be played. Tell you what though, are there anymore announcers more biased than Hawk Harrelson and Darrin Jackson. Would love to mute those idiots. Live in Chicago area so have had to listen to them last two nights because espn blocks out local games.Go Yanks.

[Arodjr]

My thoughts exactly!! Haven't seen hide nor hair of fenwayp too!! :eek: Where is robertbee now. Sure doesn't hesitate to talk trash when Boston is winning or the Yankees or below Boston. At least Yankee fans talk whether they are winning or losing. And I agree with the rest of the Red Sox Nation. Team looks terrible right now and seem to be slowly fading out, but still lots of ball to be played. Go Yanks.

[Arodjr]

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm. :p (From post #1413)As I have said before, Yankees will be hopelessly out of the pennant race by 8/31.
Quote me all you want.

[Reagz]

are there anymore announcers more biased than Hawk Harrelson and Darrin Jackson.

Yea, the Red sox radio broadcasters Joe Castiglione and Jerry Trupiano. They are by far the worst in the league.

[Hardcore Legend]

Wow. I mean, I love to see the Red Sox fail but..wow. If they get swept by New York, they could be almost 10 games out.

[orionquest]

Yea, the Red sox radio broadcasters Joe Castiglione and Jerry Trupiano. They are by far the worst in the league.

I live in Los Angeles, and have to hear the Angels broadcasters regularly. I listen to the Red Sox on FM frequently, and get to hear announcers around the AL. Compared to most, Joe and Jerry are top notch. "Worst in the league" is just downright ridiculous, even from an objective viewpoint.

And I haven't heard a single radio boradcaster who can call a home run half as well as Jerry Trupiano. "Swing and a drive! Way back.... waaaaay back!" :D

[orionquest]

Wow. I mean, I love to see the Red Sox fail but..wow. If they get swept by New York, they could be almost 10 games out.

Don't think it's not on the minds of Red Sox Nation, too. They play the Tigers, Yankees, and Angels in the next two weeks. There is *every* possibility that they'll be on the verge of playoff elimination by the end of the month.

There's always the chance that they'll go on a tear, too. And that's why I love this game.

[Reagz]

And I haven't heard a single radio boradcaster who can call a home run half as well as Jerry Trupiano. "Swing and a drive! Way back.... waaaaay back!"

The thing is, every fly ball is called the same way. "Way back ... way back ..............caught 2 steps on the outfield grass."

Face it, they suck.

[Bronx Bombers]

John Sterling is the best!!

[ToightLikeATiger]

all announce team radio or tv are biased towards the team they cover. it has always been that way. that is what the fans of the team want to see.

so to say a certain broadcast team sucks because they are "homers" is ignorant.

now if a national broadcast team is biased like....oh lets say Buck and McCarver... then you can say they are bush league announcers.

[Reagz]

Sterling is good, he really gets into the game when the Yankees are producing, but he also gives the other team credit and makes compliments when they make plays. Suzyn Waldman is absolutely crap on the radio. I cant stand her at all. Bring back Charlie Steiner.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Sterling is good, he really gets into the game when the Yankees are producing, but he also gives the other team credit and makes compliments when they make plays.

Yeah, I like Sterling for that. He seems to be the only radio guy who does his trademark call even when the road team homers.

[orionquest]

Sterling is good, he really gets into the game when the Yankees are producing, but he also gives the other team credit and makes compliments when they make plays. Suzyn Waldman is absolutely crap on the radio. I cant stand her at all. Bring back Charlie Steiner.

You like Sterling and don't like Trup and Joe? I could put Sterling replays on when I have insomnia to help me fall back asleep. Sure, he compliments the other team after great plays, but so does *EVERY* announcer who doesn't work for the White Sox. His tone sounds like a two-bit AM newcaster giving headline updates every ten minutes. Even the Angels announcers have more flair, and they don't have half his baseball knowledge.

And I agree with Toight, all of these local folks are doing their job by focusing on the home team. It's when supposedly-impartial national network announcers start to favor a team that it gets silly. *cough*TimMcCarver*cough*

[ToightLikeATiger]

David Wells stopped the bleeding last night. Looks like he is back in pitching form. Of course i want to see him when he doesnt have 8 runs to work with. That made it a little easier. But he was locating all his pitches well and is encouraging to see.

also Wily Mo Pena's power is scary. This guy is gonna be dangerous if he learns patience. He seems to have more power then Manny and Ortiz. That is a scary thing. I miss Arroyo and the pitching staff does this year as well. But a 24 year old power hitter like Pena could be putting a hurting on AL pitchers for many many years. He is only going to get better.

i know this is crazy but if the Whitesox sweep the Tigers i think they will catch them for the division. I just get that feeling ChiSox are about to go on a big run

[Bronx Bombers]

But your still in second place and right now out of playoffs...

[Tanner2126]

But your still in second place and right now out of playoffs...

Theres 50 games left......

[Bronx Bombers]

Yeah 50 games to drop lower

[ComradeFlyer]

for a yankees team that i supposed to be so much better thank the red sox, they've had just as hard of a time running away with the division as the sox had.

[fenwayp]

Sox now only 1 game back...

[Bronx Bombers]

Why is Mavrik suspended?

[ToightLikeATiger]

Why is Mavrik suspended?

probably because everything he posts is confrontational and is only here to mess with people. ive never seen him actually discuss any sports here. he just likes to insult people on teams he dislikes. Why i have had him on ignore for over a year now.

im sure he went over the line AGAIN

[ToightLikeATiger]

Sox now only 1 game back...

where have you been? when the Sox were 3 games back you were nowhere to be seen. Atleast show up when the times get tough if your going to gloat when things are good.

[Arodjr]

Sox now only 1 game back...

Whoa, look who showed up!!!! :D It's gonna be a tight race, right down to the wire!!!

[fenwayp]

where have you been? when the Sox were 3 games back you were nowhere to be seen. Atleast show up when the times get tough if your going to gloat when things are good.

Listen, I can post whenever the hell I want to. Also, why would I be "gloating" over second place ? It was a simple statement. Who are you, anyways, the master of who can post when ?

...you are a piece of work...

[fenwayp]

BTW...I was UNDER A ROCK after the Red Sox lost 3 straight to the worst team in baseball...

[fenwayp]

I was also in Boston for 9 days on vacation watching BIG PAPI crush that 3-run Walk-off HR on July 31st...LIVE !!... with my wife and 2 of my 3 kids (6 and 4) who stayed until the very end despite the fact that it was 10:30 PM (a couple hours past their bedtime :D ) Not bad for their 1st game EVER at Fenway :D

[ToightLikeATiger]

Listen, I can post whenever the hell I want to. Also, why would I be "gloating" over second place ? It was a simple statement. Who are you, anyways, the master of who can post when ?

...you are a piece of work...

you are a fair weather fan. your type is why the Redsox are more hated now then before the World Series win

[fenwayp]

you are a fair weather fan. your type is why the Redsox are more hated now then before the World Series win

Actually, I am not a fairweather fan. You fancy yourself as the ultimate everything Boston fan. I have never been a fairweather Boston sports fan. I have loved and cheered for the Red Sox since I was 5, and same for the Patriots. Your words are empty blather. Your ignorance leads you to conclude that just because I post when the Sox are playing well, that I am not a diehard fan ? That is an idiotic assumption. I can see why you frequently get banned...

[fenwayp]

I prefer to lay low when the Red Sox get swept by the Royals...not much to say other than, "Boy, the Red Sox sucked the past 3 games..."

[fenwayp]

At this point the Redsox are done. Im not giving up on them because they could still sneak in the playoffs if they can stay close enough and get guys healthy.

but if they continue to play like they are its over. Schilling is the only good starter right now. everyone else cant pitch deep in games and is mediocre. The bullpen is what i expected. Young guys learning on the job. Cant expect them to carry the load and be perfect during a pennant race. They were not expected to contribute so much this year but with Seanez and Tavarez sucking and Foulke hurt they were forced into action.

Timlin is finally showing his age.

Offensively this team just isnt pounding the ball like the should. Besides Ortiz and Manny offensively they are cutting the mustard. Not getting the key hits when needed like the past years. Of course missing Varitek and Nixon hurts that.

Redsox need to rally up and start showing improvement. Especially Beckett. Crisp and Lowell at the plate.

Right now i wouldnt want the Redsox to make the playoffs. It would just be another embarrassing exit like last year. Now if Beckett pitches like he can, Wakefield comes back healthy, Wells regains form and Foulke is back and healthy i think they could be dangerous in the playoffs. But all of those are huge IFS.

The Redsox didnt trade their young guys to make a run at the World Series just for this year. I agree with that move and always will. Lester and Hansen should be very good major league pitchers. They are very young and cant be expected to carry a team right now though.

Id much rather miss the playoffs this year and not trade the young guys then make the playoffs this year and not have those guys for 10 years. All this experience these young guys are getting now will only help them next year.

im not giving up on the Redsox because i have seen them come from a 3-0 deficit to win a ALCS. They need to start winning now though and keep it withing 1 or 2 games until the calvary comes. Hopefully Schilling stops the bleeding tonight and they can go into Baltimore with a little confidence

Talk about a "fairweather fan" :rolleyes:

[ToightLikeATiger]

Talk about a "fairweather fan" :rolleyes:

what are you talking about.... i assest the situation without being a homer. at that point the redsox were a sinking ship and i called it like i saw it.

but never did i say i gave up on them. in fact 2nd sentence i stated im not.

i said what the problems were and what needed to happen to fix them.

just because i dont sit here and say "the redsox are the greatest thing since sliced bread" after losing 5 in a row to TB and KC doesnt mean im fairweather. I was here during the losing streak and didnt hide.

perhaps you should reread my post and get what i said. because nowhere did i give up on the redsox. so far my comment is holding true as well. look at the last paragraph.

Redsox need to keep it within a game or 2 until the calvary comes. Well part 1 may be back for the Yankees series in Trot Nixon.

Tim Wakefield is throwing again and is 2-3 weeks away. Varitek is rehabbing and is a little bit further away.

Foulke has been close twice but experienced back pains both times. So it unsure about him. Clement really hasnt done anything from what ive heard. He isnt close at all.

Beckett, Schilling and Wells vs the Tigers. Johnson,Lester, Beckett, Schilling and ??? vs the Yankees coming up. Got Beckett and Schilling going against the two top teams. This is go time and have the setup to do it.

[Yukoner]

Toight and Mavrik... two class acts.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Toight and Mavrik... two class acts.

dont compare me to him ever again thank you. i discuss baseball and love the game. i dont sit here and bash and troll like he does to redsox fans.

[fenwayp]

Again, LET'S REVIEW:

This is a TRASH-TALKING THREAD...
My theory on it is: Come on and "Talk Trash" when appropriate.

My take is that "Talking Trash" is pretty tough when your beloved team drops 3 in a row to the worst team in baseball, so I don't "Talk Trash" then.

Toight's take is that he knows everything about Red Sox baseball, and is the Peter Gammons of the Spawn Board. Mr. Red Sox. Mr. Baseball. Mr. Honorable. Mr. Righteous.

You are the one, who, after I make an innocuous comment that:

"Sox now only 1 game back..."

writes the following back to me:

"you are a fair weather fan. your type is why the Redsox are more hated now then before the World Series win"

If that isn't the most self-righteous, ignorant, and idiotic generalization I have ever heard, I don't know what is.

You think you are always right, and that's fine, if not funny.

I love the Red Sox, and I also don't care where or when I post.

[ComradeFlyer]

If that isn't the most self-righteous, ignorant, and idiotic generalization I have ever heard, I don't know what is.

You think you are always right, and that's fine, if not funny.

oh man, someone elses sees it the same way i do.

[Bronx Bombers]

Stop fighting guys

[ToightLikeATiger]

Again, LET'S REVIEW:

This is a TRASH-TALKING THREAD...
My theory on it is: Come on and "Talk Trash" when appropriate.

My take is that "Talking Trash" is pretty tough when your beloved team drops 3 in a row to the worst team in baseball, so I don't "Talk Trash" then.

Toight's take is that he knows everything about Red Sox baseball, and is the Peter Gammons of the Spawn Board. Mr. Red Sox. Mr. Baseball. Mr. Honorable. Mr. Righteous.

You are the one, who, after I make an innocuous comment that:

"Sox now only 1 game back..."

writes the following back to me:

"you are a fair weather fan. your type is why the Redsox are more hated now then before the World Series win"

If that isn't the most self-righteous, ignorant, and idiotic generalization I have ever heard, I don't know what is.

You think you are always right, and that's fine, if not funny.

I love the Red Sox, and I also don't care where or when I post.

im not the only one that realizes you disappear when the Redsox lose. i call it like i see it. other people see it the same way as well. if your gonna run your mouth and "trash talk" atleast be around when they lose.

you have no clue about me and your assumptions are wrong. but think like you want. still wont change the fact your a coward and fine the nearest rock when the redsox start to lose and the Yankees look good.

[LI-Mike]

i bet toight and mavrick are the same person...who else thinks this...

[ComradeFlyer]

i bet toight and mavrick are the same person...who else thinks this...

wouldn't surprise me one bit, they are each the biggest loser fans of either team.

[Bronx Bombers]

I dont like either of them. Their both Red Sox fans.

[fenwayp]

Obligatory non-trash talking statement to show that I don't only post when things are going well:

Red Sox getting smoked 5-0. They are playing poorly.
Yankees lead 2-0, they clearly are much better than the Red Sox.

Red Sox have no hope. Season is over. Why do I even watch or care...

LOL...where is Toight when times are tough ? Nowhere to be found... LOL :D

[Arodjr]

Yankees lead back to 2 games. Arod was gifted a hit and RBI tonight. Man, the Angels are stinky in the field.

[ToightLikeATiger]

another classic Josh Beckett performance for this year. his act is getting old.

time for Schilling to get them back on track tonight. good matchup vs Bonderman

[BurningSoul]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/08/14/yankees.kennedy/index.html

Why do they expect this guy to be in the Yanks rotation next year?

[ToightLikeATiger]

sounds like the Yankees overhyping a prospect so they can claim they have a farm system when everyone tells them they dont.

[BurningSoul]

Thank god Cano, Wang and Cabrera were not overhyped. I feel bad for Kennedy and Hughes. Maybe they won't crumble like alot of others, (Duncan etc.).

[Bronx Bombers]

No way would he start maybe Hughes.

[fenwayp]

Man, the Red Sox are really starting to worry me at this point. Looks like they may lose another full game to the Yankees today. They better hope they turn things around in time for this weekend, or they are in serious trouble...

[Bronx Bombers]

3 games back......

[Bronx Bombers]

Wait for it......

[Bronx Bombers]

Now.

[Mark Weber]

If New York can keep this three-game lead into the weekend set, Boston would need a five-game sweep to take over first place...

[Mark Weber]

sounds like the Yankees overhyping a prospect so they can claim they have a farm system when everyone tells them they dont.

June 3rd, 2006 Yankees 6, Orioles 5

CF - Johnny Damon
LF - Melky Cabrera
SS - Derek Jeter
C - Jorge Posada
DH - Bernie Williams
1B - Andy Phillips
2B - Robinson Cano
3B - Miguel Cairo
RF - Kevin Thompson
P - Chien-Ming Wang
RP - Mariano Rivera

Of course that's an extreme, but nine of those eleven players were homegrown prospects...

[ToightLikeATiger]

June 3rd, 2006 Yankees 6, Orioles 5

CF - Johnny Damon
LF - Melky Cabrera
SS - Derek Jeter
C - Jorge Posada
DH - Bernie Williams
1B - Andy Phillips
2B - Robinson Cano
3B - Miguel Cairo
RF - Kevin Thompson
P - Chien-Ming Wang
RP - Mariano Rivera

Of course that's an extreme, but nine of those eleven players were homegrown prospects...

wasnt talking about history mark. im talking about since 2000 when they decided to buy players instead of grow them

and sure the guys the called up to play have done a good job. But lets be realistic. If Matsui and Sheffield werent hurt they wouldnt see the field. And they also have the best chance possible of succeeding. They have monsters hitting around them in the lineup. Pitchers dont wanna be too cute with guys like Cabrera or Philips because if they walk them the next guy coming up is a big time threat. So they see more fastballs.... more pitches closer to the middle of the plate. This helps them hit.

why do you think whoever hit in the 9 hole for Boston would have career years? cause Damon, Ortiz and Manny follow and dont want to screw around with the #9 hitter with those guys coming up.

its just the way of baseball. But the Yankees farm system is dry. Duncan is no longer a top prospect. He looks like Drew Henson now. Philip Hughes is thier best prospect. other then that you got run of the mill guys.

If the Yankees decided to go back to what got them winning and use homegrown players they dont have a core like Jeter, Williams, Rivera and Posada to help them.

trust me as a Redsox fan i know how bad a dry farm system can hurt a team. Dan Duquette killed the farm system as GM and never tried to replenish it. Thankfully when Theo came in he put an emphasis on it and its better then ever. Now alot of the guys are up with the big club too soon but injuries force that. Unfortunetly the players up too soon are pitchers. They dont get away with things as much as hitters do.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

The point isn't that the Yankees can't develop players, it's the fact that they are able to keep all of their young talent when they hit free agency that gives them the advantage over other teams.

[Bronx Bombers]

I don't want them to trade anymore

[orionquest]

The point isn't that the Yankees can't develop players, it's the fact that they are able to keep all of their young talent when they hit free agency that gives them the advantage over other teams.

Exactly. That's one of the many points I've raised when discussing the challenges each franchise faces.

That said, it's a tough time in Red Sox Nation. Last night's loss was another painful one. Unless the young Yankees talent has a September that resembles the Red Sox's August, I have a hard time seeing Boston catching up. Possible, yes. Probable, no.

Then again, I still see the White Sox beating the Mets in the Series, but who knows. :eek:

[ToightLikeATiger]

yeah 3gb is tough after getting it back down to 1gb a couple days ago. But they did it once and can do it again. They need to get this last game vs Detroit whether NY wins or loses. Then take atleast 3 of 5 from NY.

I wouldnt worry about scoreboard watching the Yankees. Or worrying how many games back the Redsox are. The Redsox need to start winning every series. doesnt need to be sweeps but get 2 of 3 or 3 of 4. Thats how you cut into leads. Cant be losing series though. Split is the worst they can do and still have a chance.

Quite frankly the Redsox have a better chance catching NY then Chicago for the wildcard in my opinion. I still think the Whitesox have the best chance of winning it all because of their pitching. Plus their offense is even better then last year

[Mark Weber]

But the Yankees farm system is dry. Duncan is no longer a top prospect. He looks like Drew Henson now. Philip Hughes is thier best prospect. other then that you got run of the mill guys.

If the Yankees decided to go back to what got them winning and use homegrown players they dont have a core like Jeter, Williams, Rivera and Posada to help them.

trust me as a Redsox fan i know how bad a dry farm system can hurt a team. Dan Duquette killed the farm system as GM and never tried to replenish it. Thankfully when Theo came in he put an emphasis on it and its better then ever. Now alot of the guys are up with the big club too soon but injuries force that. Unfortunetly the players up too soon are pitchers. They dont get away with things as much as hitters do.

New York did go through a dry spell from their farm system from 98-03 or so, when Alfonso Soriano was the only impact rookie to make their roster, but since then Chien-Ming Wang, Robinson Cano and Mely Cabrera have all come up and been solid contributors. If the Yankees farm system is dry right now it's only because they've called up their three studs over the last two seasons.

Still, there are prospects growing down on the farm, most notably:

26-year-old RP Jose Veras (AAA - Columbus Clippers)
20-year-old SP Phillip Hughes (AA - Trenton Thunder)
22-year-old SP Tyler Clippard (AA - Trenton Thunder)
22-year-old RP J.B. Cox (AA - Trenton Thunder)
21-year-old SP George Kontos (A - Staten Island)
18-year-old OF Jose Tabata (A - Charleston)

Not to mention 6'3, 230 pound 16-year-old Venezuelan catching prodigy Jesus Montero, who New York outbid Boston for. You know as well as I do that minor league numbers rarely translate to big league talent, but I don't think it's accurate to describe New York's farm system as "dry."

[ToightLikeATiger]

I don't think it's accurate to describe New York's farm system as "dry."

course you wouldnt. and who should challenge you on the subject? your right about everything. forgot what baseball people smarter then you and i think. im gonna ignore that and believe you cause your the all mighty webber.

we've gone over this before Mark so im not gonna even try to discuss the matter with you. it can be summed up easily like so and i will save you the time.

me- yankees farm system is dry and doesnt come close to past Yankees farm system when they actually won.

god of sports board- youre wrong. big papi isnt clutch, redsox are racist. yankees have best farm system ever.

me- here is proof of others smarter then us when it comes to the game showing the Yankees farm system isnt as good as you think.


god of sports board- youre wrong. big papi isnt clutch, redsox are racist. yankees have best farm system ever. i once again dominate you on this subject and trash talked you out of your shoes.

me- get over yourself mark you dont know everything and can be wrong.

god of sports board- im sorry you feel that way about me but youre wrong about that too. im sorry i know more then anyone else.

ok end of discussion mark. see i just saved you the usual typing and everyone else from seeing your irrelevant comments

[Reagz]

If anything, the Red Sox farm system is over-hyped to the extreme. All we hear about is all these great guys in the system. Yes, they did have a gem in Papelbon, but thats it. Lester is a average pitcher thats been living on the edge the past month. Hansen is a hard throwing pitcher with not much control. Youk has been playing above his head for a month or two but if settling down to be an ok player. Thats it. Im not saying the Yankees farm system is stacked, cause its not, but Boston's has been over-hyped for the past few years. Trust me, I live ine Mass and Ive read all the paper, reports, and seen all the news stories.

[orionquest]

If anything, the Red Sox farm system is over-hyped to the extreme. All we hear about is all these great guys in the system. Yes, they did have a gem in Papelbon, but thats it. Lester is a average pitcher thats been living on the edge the past month. Hansen is a hard throwing pitcher with not much control. Youk has been playing above his head for a month or two but if settling down to be an ok player. Thats it. Im not saying the Yankees farm system is stacked, cause its not, but Boston's has been over-hyped for the past few years. Trust me, I live ine Mass and Ive read all the paper, reports, and seen all the news stories.

While I agree that the Sox farm system gets more hype than it deserves, it still has earned a solid level of praise. Hanley Ramirez and Freddy Sanchez are having a great time in Florida and Pittsburgh respectively. Kelly Shoppach is looking solid in Cleveland. The younger players in Boston are making their mark, but it looks like they're suffering by being brought up to soon.

Jury is still out on Lester. He was not expected to start this year, maybe post All-Star break at the earliest. He looks shaken lately, and I think he's suffering from that stage where batters are studying him, and he needs to learn to adapt. Hansen should never have been brought up; I always thought that was a mistake. Had Foulke's health not been a problem, he'd still be in Pawtucket.

[Mark Weber]

course you wouldnt. and who should challenge you on the subject? your right about everything. forgot what baseball people smarter then you and i think. im gonna ignore that and believe you cause your the all mighty webber.

we've gone over this before Mark so im not gonna even try to discuss the matter with you. it can be summed up easily like so and i will save you the time.

me- yankees farm system is dry and doesnt come close to past Yankees farm system when they actually won.

god of sports board- youre wrong. big papi isnt clutch, redsox are racist. yankees have best farm system ever.

me- here is proof of others smarter then us when it comes to the game showing the Yankees farm system isnt as good as you think.


god of sports board- youre wrong. big papi isnt clutch, redsox are racist. yankees have best farm system ever. i once again dominate you on this subject and trash talked you out of your shoes.

me- get over yourself mark you dont know everything and can be wrong.

god of sports board- im sorry you feel that way about me but youre wrong about that too. im sorry i know more then anyone else.

ok end of discussion mark. see i just saved you the usual typing and everyone else from seeing your irrelevant comments

If you don't like opinions that differ from yours Tiger, why do you post on a message board, especially in a thread expressly labeled "trash talking" ?

Sure there are people with better info than me about the Yankees prospects - I've only seen one of them play at all and that was one inning of subpar pitching. The stats those guys are putting up and their relative ages makes me think the Yankees farm system isn't dry.

Can you state the reasons you think it's dry, or at least the sources who have that stance that you've chosen to believe and relay?

[Bronx Bombers]

course you wouldnt. and who should challenge you on the subject? your right about everything. forgot what baseball people smarter then you and i think. im gonna ignore that and believe you cause your the all mighty webber.

we've gone over this before Mark so im not gonna even try to discuss the matter with you. it can be summed up easily like so and i will save you the time.

me- yankees farm system is dry and doesnt come close to past Yankees farm system when they actually won.

god of sports board- youre wrong. big papi isnt clutch, redsox are racist. yankees have best farm system ever.

me- here is proof of others smarter then us when it comes to the game showing the Yankees farm system isnt as good as you think.


god of sports board- youre wrong. big papi isnt clutch, redsox are racist. yankees have best farm system ever. i once again dominate you on this subject and trash talked you out of your shoes.

me- get over yourself mark you dont know everything and can be wrong.

god of sports board- im sorry you feel that way about me but youre wrong about that too. im sorry i know more then anyone else.

ok end of discussion mark. see i just saved you the usual typing and everyone else from seeing your irrelevant comments


He cant help it if hes the god of sports board

[Mark Weber]

If anything, the Red Sox farm system is over-hyped to the extreme. All we hear about is all these great guys in the system. Yes, they did have a gem in Papelbon, but thats it. Lester is a average pitcher thats been living on the edge the past month. Hansen is a hard throwing pitcher with not much control. Youk has been playing above his head for a month or two but if settling down to be an ok player. Thats it. Im not saying the Yankees farm system is stacked, cause its not, but Boston's has been over-hyped for the past few years. Trust me, I live ine Mass and Ive read all the paper, reports, and seen all the news stories.

I saw plenty of Dustin Pedroia at ASU, so I think he's a legitimate prospect, and the reports on Cf Jacob Ellsbury seem to think he's the real deal too. I don't know anyone else in Boston's farm system but those two seem to be blue chippers.

[Bronx Bombers]

Tough loss Posada is really in a slump cant hit anything.

[fenwayp]

5 game series @ Fenway... BRING IT ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ComradeFlyer]

I saw plenty of Dustin Pedroia at ASU, so I think he's a legitimate prospect, and the reports on Cf Jacob Ellsbury seem to think he's the real deal too. I don't know anyone else in Boston's farm system but those two seem to be blue chippers.

those are the two blue chippers. we've got some other interesting guys in the system, but the promotions of papelbon, lester, youkilis, hansen and delcarmen as well as the trading of marte (even if he never played) and shoppoch has really reduced the prospect/minor league pool.

there are a few interesting guys that have been blown up at times, but beyond Pedroia and Ellsbury no one that i think is a sure thing Major Leaguer.

[Bronx Bombers]

Boston's gonna be 7.5 games after the series

[fenwayp]

Boston's gonna be 7.5 games after the series

Wanna bet ?

[orionquest]

Boston's gonna be 7.5 games after the series

BB, you're getting way ahead of yourself, eh? (Even if I secretly fear it. ;) )

Now, just how would Yankees fans react if the "impossible" happened and Boston swept all five games? I doubt it will happen, certainly, but where would it leave you? No team ever came back after being down 0-3 in the playoffs before '04, so you all are the only baseball fan base ever to know how that feels.

Just how would Yankees fans react to find their team 3 games down in second place on Tuesday morning?

[Mark Weber]

BB, you're getting way ahead of yourself, eh? (Even if I secretly fear it. ;) )

Now, just how would Yankees fans react if the "impossible" happened and Boston swept all five games? I doubt it will happen, certainly, but where would it leave you? No team ever came back after being down 0-3 in the playoffs before '04, so you all are the only baseball fan base ever to know how that feels.

Just how would Yankees fans react to find their team 3 games down in second place on Tuesday morning?

You'd need wins from Josh Beckett and Jason Johnson to make that happen. :)

So IF the Sox start the five-game set just two games back AND they sweep all five games from New York, how would I feel (as a Yankees fan) if they're in second place, two games back of Boston on Tuesday, August 22nd?

I think I'd feel like they were three games back of Boston last August 22nd, without Gary Sheffield, Hideki Matsui and (don't hold your breath) Carl Pavano getting ready to return to help the stretch drive. I probably don't have to remind you how it turned out last year. :)

Sure, New York is the only team to know what it's like to choke away a 3-0 series lead in the playoffs - but fumbling away a division lead in September? Hell, that's got Red Sox written all over it...

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/pete_mcentegart/09/23/ten.spot/p1_dent.jpg

[orionquest]

Oooh, Mark... bringing out my first sports heartbreak, and in pictures, no less! Do I have to find a photo of ARod slapping the ball out of Arroyo's hand to retaliate?

Yeah, your response is pretty much what I figured. And I'm expecting a slaughter against Jason Johnson, since Francona can't afford to use up the bullpen early after his inevitable 4th inning departure. As for Beckett, I have a suspicion that he's tipping his pitches. I can only hope that he figures it out.

I'm hoping for 3 out 5. I don't think the Sox are in a condition to take 4. The Yankees, on the other hand, are. Maybe ol' Fenway will find a way to be kind.

What scares me is that the Sox are in a position to keep the race tight. The Yankees, on the other hand, could potentially end Boston's season this weekend. That doesn' t help me sleep much.

[Bronx Bombers]

Its trah talking i can say what i want and 90% of the time its a little over the top.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Oh no, Carl Pavano is coming back!

[ComradeFlyer]

Carl Pavano getting ready to return to help the stretch drive.

i just laughed so hard my coffee was almost spit on the screen. i have to go to work, that was a great laugh.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Redsox are close to acquiring Eric Hinske to platoon in RF with Wily Mo Pena. Also give Youkilis some days off at 1B.

Eric Hinske is batting about .350 vs NY this year. He will probably start 3 of the 5 games this weekend if deal is approved

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Sweet, The Jays save nearly $3 million by dumping Hinske. I guess that's the end of Trot Nixon in a SAWX uniform.

[Bronx Bombers]

i just laughed so hard my coffee was almost spit on the screen. i have to go to work, that was a great laugh.


Why didnt you put "...and (don't hold your breath)..." part?

[ToightLikeATiger]

Sweet, The Jays save nearly $3 million by dumping Hinske. I guess that's the end of Trot Nixon in a SAWX uniform.

not the end for Nixon at all. Hinske wont be with the team next year. He is just a left handed bat until Nixon gets back and give Youk some days off. Next year Hinske will have no impact on whether Nixon comes back or not.

When Nixon comes back he will be starting in RF once again.

in the offseason we will see if its the end. Wily Mo is the insurance policy not Hinske. Nixon wants to come back and the team wants him back. We will see if the can find a dollar amount that satisfies both. Nixon wont get tons on the open market because of injuries so the Redsox should be able to keep him. Especially since Nixon has already said he would give a home town discount to stay.

If he is back next year he will just play less to keep him fresh

[Bronx Bombers]

Your acting like Hinske is the Red Sox savior lol your still not getting the divison.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Your acting like Hinske is the Red Sox savior lol your still not getting the divison.

You're acting like a 12 year old.

and i never said he was the savior. i said he is close to being acquired. he is another left handed bat in the lineup. He will platoon with Wily Mo Pena in RF and give Youkilis time off.

now tell me what part of that statement is:

A. saying Hinske is the savior

or

B. incorrect.

[Mark Weber]

Oh no, Carl Pavano is coming back!

Speak up VC, it's hard to hear you all the way from Toronto. Or is it all the way from third place? :) Comforting to know that your team will dump salary inside their own division.

[Mark Weber]

Sweet, The Jays save nearly $3 million by dumping Hinske. I guess that's the end of Trot Nixon in a SAWX uniform.

Nixon was a dead man walking as soon as the Arroyo trade went down.

[Mark Weber]

If he [Nixon] is back next year he will just play less to keep him fresh

Maybe he and Varitek could stay fresher by getting an occassional start at DH? Oh wait, I forgot... :)

[Mark Weber]

Why didnt you put "...and (don't hold your breath)..." part?

Because it's more fun to make up stuff than actually develop their own points...

[Bronx Bombers]

You're acting like a 12 year old.

and i never said he was the savior. i said he is close to being acquired. he is another left handed bat in the lineup. He will platoon with Wily Mo Pena in RF and give Youkilis time off.

now tell me what part of that statement is:

A. saying Hinske is the savior

or

B. incorrect.

You always twist around what we say so why cant i do the same?

[Paul755]

Nixon wants to come back and the team wants him back. We will see if the can find a dollar amount that satisfies both. Nixon wont get tons on the open market because of injuries so the Redsox should be able to keep him. Especially since Nixon has already said he would give a home town discount to stay.


I'm not a fan of either team, I only read this thread for entertainment. But wasn't this basically the same sentiment everyone had about Johnny Damon last season.

[Bronx Bombers]

Whats with Giambis hair? Does he really liked Mattingly that much?

[orionquest]

Oh no, Carl Pavano is coming back!

Yay! Carl Pavano is coming back! :p

I woke up this morning, jumped online, and realized that I wasn't aware that the Yankees do indeed play today on the Sox day off. Hence the 1/2 game differential others were writing about above that I missed.

All I can hope for tonight is a marginal Orioles victory deep, deep into extra innings. I'd love something like 5-4, Baltimore in 19! :D

So, everyone, how are you all feeling going into this weekend? We could find our teams knotted up tight, or Boston could get the stomach punch that keeps them out of the race, or the Yankees could find themselves shell shocked into second. I make no predictions, because recent history has taught us that CRAZY #$@% HAPPENS WHEN THESE TEAMS PLAY! :rolleyes:

It's gonna be one hell of a weekend.

[Bronx Bombers]

I hope they fight....

[orionquest]

I hope they fight....

BB, you just made my day! I laughed so hard I literally almost fell out of my chair. People at work started staring.

[Bronx Bombers]

It would be funny, no Zimmer this time though....

[orionquest]

It would be funny, no Zimmer this time though....

And no Varitek to hold A-Rod in line. Perhaps some of the newcomers may enter the fray. Hmmm.... maybe Milky Cabrera and Wily Mo Pena will go toe-to-toe. I wouldn't want to get on Wily's bad side. :eek:

[Bronx Bombers]

Varitek with his ***** shove.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

A-Rod was such a fugazy that day. It was the fakest "tough guy" act I've ever seen.

[Bronx Bombers]

They better start scoring some runs.

[Mark Weber]

Back-to-back losses to Baltimore is not exactly how I hoped NY would enter the series in Boston. Jaret Wright could've helped out by lasting more than three innings and not taxing the bullpen for five innings the day before the five-game set in Beantown.

[orionquest]

Back-to-back losses to Baltimore is not exactly how I hoped NY would enter the series in Boston. Jaret Wright could've helped out by lasting more than three innings and not taxing the bullpen for five innings the day before the five-game set in Beantown.

Well, it sure makes it more interesting. And don't worry about your boys' bullpen so much. They do get to face Jason Johnson next, after all.

A five game set with 1.5 games separating. This is what it's all about! Go Sox!

[Bronx Bombers]

Yankees will come out at least 2.5 up.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Lester and Johnson pitch the first 2 games for Boston. out of 18 regulation innings the Redsox will be LUCKY to get 10 out of the 2 starters.

Lester has a real hard time with first couple innings which gives him a high pitch count. he is always at 100 pitches by the 5th.

Johnson just plain sucks and will most likely get slapped around every inning 1-5. They will just stick with him to make sure the bullpen isnt over taxed.

Kyle Snyder will be the long man and if either game is a blowout he will probably come in. Seanez and Tavarez will be used for that type of game as well.

I think the first 2 games tomorrow are going to be slugfests. Then the pitching will start after that. Beckett vs Johnson and Schilling vs Mussina. those will be well pitched games.

Wells vs Lidle will be interesting. Wells is pitching better now and Lidle gets his first taste of the rivalry.

If the Redsox can split tomorrow i will be very happy. Wang will probably beat Johnson. Ponson vs Lester im not sure but there will be tons of runs.

[Bronx Bombers]

If Johnson is on then Yankees will take 3 easily, im only worried about Ponson and Johnson.

[fenwayp]

Yankees will come out at least 2.5 up.

What happened to the 7.5 games you spoke of just last night ?

[ComradeFlyer]

Because it's more fun to make up stuff than actually develop their own points...

i just found it funny that anyone would even mention pavano, the guy is useless. and that is all i meant when i laughed. my comment wasn't an indictment of the yankees pitching staff, it wasn’t an indictment of yankees fans and it wasn’t an indictment of your current comments.

i’d have laughed just as hard if you said varitek’s youthful knees or ortiz’s fielding skills.

but sometimes you are an idiot.

and for clarification that is an indictment of your intelligence when it came to responding to me.

[Bronx Bombers]

What happened to the 7.5 games you spoke of just last night ?


Not sure what ur talking about.

[ComradeFlyer]

Boston's gonna be 7.5 games after the series

made it easy for you.

[Bronx Bombers]

Did i say this series coming up? no i meant in september:rolleyes:

[ComradeFlyer]

yeah because when you comment about being up 7.5 right after someone says

5 game series @ Fenway... BRING IT ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the only logical assumption is that you ment in september.

[orionquest]

Did i say this series coming up? no i meant in september:rolleyes:

September 1st, sure. September 30th, we'll see! :D

[Bronx Bombers]

the only logical assumption is that you ment in september.


exactly

[fenwayp]

Boston's gonna be 7.5 games after the series

You clearly were referring to the upcoming 5 game series @Fenway...you were figuring they would win today against Baltimore (how'd that work out:D :eek: ) and then sweep the Red Sox in Fenway...that was the only scenario that would have met your criteria.

:rolleyes:

[fenwayp]

I love seeing the 21st Century Yankee Fan backpeddling :D

[Bronx Bombers]

Huh?

[fenwayp]

You clearly were referring to the upcoming 5 game series @Fenway...you were figuring they would win today against Baltimore (how'd that work out:D :eek: ) and then sweep the Red Sox in Fenway...that was the only scenario that would have met your criteria.

:rolleyes:

What part of this didn't you understand ?

[fenwayp]

Did i say this series coming up? no i meant in september:rolleyes:

You are clearly full of it...if you wrote in complete sentences rather than haphazard broken english, maybe you would actually make some sense...

[Mark Weber]

I love seeing the 21st Century Yankee Fan backpeddling :D

Now I gotta do it fenwayp - you know I saved your 2005 guarantee around here somewhere. As I recall, it didn't involve Boston choking away their division lead down the stretch and the Yankees grabbing their 10th straight division title with a win in Fenway Park on the last weekend of the season...

[fenwayp]

Yeah, I knew it was coming, but at least I should have the luxury of nailing Bronx Bombers to the wall when he makes an equally idiotic statement :)

By the way...got my BRUINS BOURQUE :D :D yesterday...THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!
It is ABSOLUTE SWEETNESS...

[fenwayp]

Now I gotta do it fenwayp - you know I saved your 2005 guarantee around here somewhere. As I recall, it didn't involve Boston choking away their division lead down the stretch and the Yankees grabbing their 10th straight division title with a win in Fenway Park on the last weekend of the season...

Maybe so, but how'd the Yankees fare in the Playoffs last year ? Not much better, as I recall :D

[Mark Weber]

Yeah, I knew it was coming, but at least I should have the luxury of nailing Bronx Bombers to the wall when he makes an equally idiotic statement :)

By the way...got my BRUINS BOURQUE :D :D yesterday...THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!
It is ABSOLUTE SWEETNESS...

I'm REALLY sorry about the delay on that fenwayp - what a nightmare on this end. I'm glad it got there safely and I was always happy it ended up in a Boston fan's hands. :)

[orionquest]

By the way...got my BRUINS BOURQUE :D :D yesterday...THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!
It is ABSOLUTE SWEETNESS...

Oh my God, I am so insanely jealous I can barely think. :eek: I want no other Sportspick half as much as that one. Glad to know it sits with a solid Boston sports fan.

[Mark Weber]

Maybe so, but how'd the Yankees fare in the Playoffs last year ? Not much better, as I recall :D

Argument-Switcher! The Yankees lasted longer than the Red Sox did...

Just think, if the Yankees win the World Series this year the rental on your 2004 crutch will be up too... :)

[fenwayp]

I'm REALLY sorry about the delay on that fenwayp - what a nightmare on this end. I'm glad it got there safely and I was always happy it ended up in a Boston fan's hands. :)

No trouble...when I got home from work, my 6-year old daughter came out of the front door carrying a box and said, "Daddy...it's your figgie !! :D :cool: "...

[GOSKINS_08]

Go O's, we crushed the yankees!!!!!

[orionquest]

Just think, if the Yankees win the World Series this year the rental on your 2004 crutch will be up too... :)

The beauty of 2004 is that no matter how old and rickety that crutch may get, the 0-3 comeback allows it to be held together with duct-tape and glue, and keep standing! :D In fact, I think it allows us to purchase that crutch outright... no renting!

[Bronx Bombers]

i act stupid cause sox fans take everything seriously

[Bronx Bombers]

Go O's, we crushed the yankees!!!!!


We crushed you this season into 4th

[fenwayp]

Argument-Switcher! The Yankees lasted longer than the Red Sox did...:)

Not in terms of level of the playoffs, just in terms of number of games played...

[fenwayp]

i act stupid cause sox fans take everything seriously

:rolleyes: Wow...that clears it all up...LOL...

[GOSKINS_08]

We crushed you this season into 4th

4th beat 1, I say thats good for 4th:D

[Bronx Bombers]

:rolleyes: Wow...that clears it all up...LOL...


exactly

[orionquest]

Nice to see Jason Johnson starting the first inning just as Red Sox and Yankees fans expected him too. Enjoy the BP, Yankees fans.

[Bronx Bombers]

I think its amazing that Wang gave up 7 hits none of them singles and only 3 runs. Maybe casue Ortiz is 0-4 and Boston is 0-15 with RISP.

[Thur34]

I hope the Yankees save some hits for tonight/rest of the series...

[Therman Merman]

Rudy Seanez is my favorite player

[orionquest]

Rudy Seanez is my favorite player

Gee, Therman, do you want him? You can have him! ;)

[orionquest]

I think its amazing that Wang gave up 7 hits none of them singles and only 3 runs. Maybe casue Ortiz is 0-4 and Boston is 0-15 with RISP.

Not just that Ortiz was 0-4, but that he was jammed on the first or second pitch in his first 3 at-bats in key situations. Wang definitely spotted something. I just hope it's not a trend. ;)

[Bronx Bombers]

Wang is amazing him and Cano are the new Jeter and Pettite of the future.

[SmartassBoiler]

Wang is amazing him and Cano are the new Jeter and Pettite of the future.

7 extra base hits and 4 walks is amazing? Wow, you're easily impressed.

[ToightLikeATiger]

game 1 went as expected. Johnson had me suprised for a bit but ultimately went back to form.

i said a split would be an accomplishment and they have a chance at that tonight. probably another slugfest but with Ponson pitching for NY it will be both ways.

i dont know what to expect from Lester really. He is too young to be in this situation but is forced to be due to the injuries. Hopefully he pulls through but not end of the world if he doesnt.

should be a closer game tonight with plenty of offense. redsox have a full bullpen with Foulke,Hansen,Timlin and Papelbon. Yankees have Farnsworth, Dotel and Rivera ready. Probably comes down to those guys

[Bronx Bombers]

7 extra base hits and 4 walks is amazing? Wow, you're easily impressed.


And only 3 runs yeah thats amazing, holding Ortiz to 0-3 thats great too, second year pitcher and he will prob have 18-20 wins yeah thats amazing.:rolleyes:

[Bronx Bombers]

game 1 went as expected. Johnson had me suprised for a bit but ultimately went back to form.

i said a split would be an accomplishment and they have a chance at that tonight. probably another slugfest but with Ponson pitching for NY it will be both ways.

i dont know what to expect from Lester really. He is too young to be in this situation but is forced to be due to the injuries. Hopefully he pulls through but not end of the world if he doesnt.

should be a closer game tonight with plenty of offense. redsox have a full bullpen with Foulke,Hansen,Timlin and Papelbon. Yankees have Farnsworth, Dotel and Rivera ready. Probably comes down to those guys


Dotels not pitching today but Villone ia ready to go.

[Bronx Bombers]

These umps are horrible

[Mark Weber]

7 extra base hits and 4 walks is amazing? Wow, you're easily impressed.

Did you think he pitched poorly SAB? He was merciless with runners on, and pitched well into the game to save the bullpen for the rest of the series. I'm not saying he dominated, but it was a really good start at exactly the right time.

[fenwayp]

Round 1 goes to the Yankees...without question....

[Bronx Bombers]

The super slow-mo is pretty cool.

[fenwayp]

Good thing Damon is only 6-9 with SEVEN RBI so far, and Game 2 is not even half over...ugggh !

[GoNiners]

I hope Ponson chokes on his post-game meal :(

[Bronx Bombers]

I hope Ponson chokes on his post-game meal :(
LOL

[GoNiners]

btw just shows you how good the offenses of both teams are and how awful the starting pitchers tonight are. 14 runs in 4 innings.

[fenwayp]

Sox now lead by a FG...LOL !!! :D

[ToightLikeATiger]

game 2 will never end lol. damn i knew it was going to be a slugfest but no way did i expect 17 runs in 5 innings.

[fenwayp]

I wish I were at this game !

[ToightLikeATiger]

i gotta say with 2 outs in the 6th inning... julian tavarez has been exceptional tonight. too bad he couldnt just do this consistantly.

[Bronx Bombers]

Ugly game with crappy umps

[Arodjr]

Jeter IS clutch!! :D :D :D