SPAWN #150 - Discussion Thread!!!

[Jon Goff]

SPAWN #150...
http://www.spawn.com/comics/SPAWN/monthly/images/spawn_comic_cover_150a_cl.jpg
...is ON SALE NOW!!!!

"While Spawn battles Heaven's bad boy, The Disciple, his greatest enemies are gathering in the pits of Hell. The Grand Inquisitor Thamuz has sworn to uncover Spawn's deepest secret or tear his soul apart trying. Meanwhile, the fate of mankind rests in the hands of a thirteen-year-old boy."

Let's hear your thoughts on this milestone issue that features a whole new creative team, new villains and characters and the beginning of dark days for everyone's favorite Hellspawn...

-Jon

[GoLoaf]

first

Okay, won't be reading it until later on tonight, but I had to go to two comic shops before I found a copy. The first shop had them all reserved. The second shop had them, but when I asked about the sketch cover, the owner more or less said that he was hoarding them to make a buck. That doesn't irk me too much, mostly becuase I'm not that keen on the cover, and I don't really think people will be tripping over themselves to buy the sketch cover for more than $5.

But it seems that the 150 sketch cover shipped in lesser quantities than the other covers. Is that right?

And dispite my representation that I would only buy the Lee cover, an impulse buy sent me home with both the Lee and the Todd cover. Chaulk one up to TMP.

Regards.

[Born_2_Die]

I just finished reading it.

Only a joy provided by a prostitute can compete with what i felt today.

[misfit84j]

in some cases that's both good and bad :)

I get my 4 covers on the 1st :( can't wait that long. Things would be ten times easier if I could fly.

[Slamscaper]

Is The Disciple a new guy? Looks pretty bad ***.

[Born_2_Die]

What's Good:

1) Gimme a T-A-N. What's that spell? His pencils (especially Thamus) are incredible.
2) Miracle Man: It seems like the Hine has come up with a loophole to get around Cog. Very impressive.
3) Reunion Tour: Many, many, many familiar faces return and many loose ends might tie up.
4) KTFO: New and impressive villians.
5) Devine Inspiration: Hine hits a bulls-eye with a great and surprisingly scary biblical event.

Whats' Bad:

1) Growing Pains: A few chessy lines and a bit of a rushed issue but forgivable since this is Hine's first go at it.

Verdict:

An amazing and confusing (in a good way) issue. Quite the enterance for the new creative team and ends with the most satisfying cliffhanger ever in Spawn history. Yes, it's that good. 9.5/10 :spawnorb:

[nabraxan]

oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy!

ive been waiting for this for what seems like forever!

and i still have to wait till next monday!!!!!!

AAAAAARRRGGHHH!!!!!!

"damn you all!"

[Slamscaper]

I love Jim Lee's cover...F ing A! And as a bonus when you get Todd's sketched cover you get Lee's sketched cover on the back...I dig Lee's work.

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[SONICobra]

must get all five!

[Matt the Undead]

must....get....spawn....one...hundred....and....fifty...

[SaberXXIII]

I got Todds cover, i haven't read it yet, but i can say that the paper is of very nice quality...lol

Really though, i need to get more of the covers.

[A lucky punk]

Awesome!

Somewhat confusing, but awesome!

For the first time in a while, I am looking forward, I mean really looking forward, to the next issue! Bring on 151!

[jackal726]

I got my 5, reserved them last night and it's a good thing too. I got to the store at noon and all they had left was 2 Capullo's and 2 sketch covers (besides my 5).

[HousesofHoly]

i might call and put on a reseverve for a few days cause i dunno if i should worry. everytime i'd go to buy any spawn, there'd be plenty left... but i dunno if people are gonna start buying again.... aahhh i NEED todd's and tan's coversss

[KidKamikaze10]

Could someone PM me a detailed spoiler on this issue, I don't have any access to a comic book shop right now.

[KidKamikaze10]

Could someone PM me a detailed spoiler on this issue, I don't have any access to a comic book shop right now.

[HousesofHoly]

i reserved it... :d phew.. if i'd have waited any longer i'm not sure i'd have gotten them..

[GoLoaf]

So did anyone notice if the sketch cover was printed in lower quantities than the rest?

[Golden Yak]

I felt like I was reading a whole new comic today.

Some truly amazing looking stuff seems to be happening in this issue. A host of new characters to deal with and the return of a few familiar (and most certainly unwelcome) faces to behold. The promises that the story will be taken in entirely new directions don't appear to be hollow ones, that's for sure. The new art is looking pretty bad-*** too, although I have to admit that I'll miss Angel's work. To each his own of course, but I found it quite enjoyable.

151 can't come soon enough...

[mikec8785]

Wow! I just finished reading the issue and I loved it. The story is really gearing up now. Many new plots opened up. I agree that there were some cheesy lines, but no biggy. Art is great. I wasn't too keen on the new look especially the melting mask, but I'm starting to get into it. It's a new direction and from some of Spawn's dialogue it looks like the story will be taking on a darker tone, which I think is great. Overall a great issue and I'm excited to see what happens in 151.

[Jon Self]

My shop was actually ****ing sold out!! Spawn hasn't sold out in years!

[curselet]

sold out eh?i hope they still have some left when i get to the shop

[wakizashi 2]

exelent issue all around. tans use of textures and darks works well with the various monsters in this issue. and the new simplified look of spawn fits his style to. its great to finaly get a little more internalization in spawn. we havent realy gotten into his head like this in a while. the appearance of some of the old characters left me going "***?" but hopefuly it will all be explained. im REALY looking forward to 151, and for the first time in years, spawn is the title im most hyped about.

[johny24]

the art is alot better! cant wait for 151!

[hazzah]

i picked it up at noon as the guy was organizing them and filling reserves, so i was standing there watching him do this making him feel awkward till he asked "what issues are you looking for" so i told him and he sorted it all out and i picked up all 5 covers(leaving 1 behind for the other suckers) and BPRD and Drax, but anyways
when i read this i about wet myself with happiness, Tan's art is really awesome, its leaps and bounds of sweetness, i think it meshes perfectly with spawn, this made me think "what will the new toys look like...holy crap"
i love the direction there going with this, the new characters are awesome, even Angels part was good, and i think thats saying something, i think he made a good exit on this and hope he does well with the rest of his career and MK spiderman, i think ill actually pick up a copy or two of that
but i agree, im actually really excited for the next issue, that hasnt happened for awhile, im giddy with excitement
my only complaint....it wasnt long enough :( hehe
but some of the dialog was kinda cheesy i agree, but i have great expectations of mr. Hine
fantastic job, the covers actually look better i think when your holding them, then when you see them on here

[A lucky punk]

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ok, so who's the kid, Christopher? Have I missed something? Or is this just something we're not supposed to understand yet? Do you think the fact that he has the name "Christ" in his name means anything?

[Master Gundam]

You didn't miss anyting, at least to my knowledge, if he was in the comic before I'd say he would probly be related to one of the kids who became Redeemer. Actually he could be that little brother of the kid whos dad Spawn killed a while back. He ramed his head through the TV antenas and then his older brother turned into the new Redeemer after comming out of jail for the murder (I think).
Anyway the covers do look a lot better when your holding them, I picked up the sketch cover, which them seemed to have an equal amont of, and Gregs cover. I'd say it was a pretty damn good issue, I like the new Characters and art. I do agree with others that though it was double sized it felt pretty short and confusing for all the new things we were bombarded with. As far as art Tans pencils are great, not as solid as I though they would be but it is his first issue after all. His page flow works much better than Medina's, which is most apparent on the splash pages. He really brings back the gritty and dark look back to this book to actually classify this comic as a horror book, like it always was. My only complaint about the art is with the colors, which I feel overstaurated this issue. Feel that they did'nt really let the pencills and especially the inks speak for themselves. If you don't know what I'm talking about, legend, Joe Kubert said it best two weeks ago on Fanboy Radio http://fanboyradio.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=28811
Which was that we've got colorists who are like kids in a candy store, they're gonna play with all the new toys just cause they're there and not because they will make for the best outcome. And I really feel like thats what was going on in the colors on this book, I mean really wasn''t the blur effect played out in 96'? The splash page where the bats all fly to Spawn throne in bum alley would have been much more affective if a simple, flat color fade was used in the background. If the art is done well it will speak for itself, I don't need the colors emphasizing a sense of motion or what I should be froced to look at because its the only thing that isn't blured out.
All that aside I really like Spawns new look, I think it gives us back what has been missing from him for so long and that is his awesome undead look. It really looks like Tan is having fun drawing him. The costume seems to be more like Zombie Spawn's which I think is amazing (can't wait for series 28). Though it would have been nice for Tan to keep him more streamlined before he got reassembled, that way the whould have been more of an explanation for the new look. The only thing I would like him to change in terms of drawing Spawn is the skulls on his chest and crotch. He made them look more like flat metal belt buckles than living Satanic skulls. In terms of new characters I really like them all. Disciple is really badass and a great edition to Hevans army. I didn't think there could be another awesome male angel other than Redeemer but Tan proved me wrong. Thamuz is also a good character design as well, but I think Uphir is just as cool, and I hope spawn keeps the stiches that Uphir put into him. The man of Miracles, or Miracle Man as we'll probably know to call him however has a really bad character design. He looks like some wanna be gundam poilt or something, he just screams bad anime to me. I have great expectations of Hine after listening to his interview but I hope we don't get anymore "Welcome to the bug house!"'s, which had me laughing for awhile. That and I don't think Sam and Twitch have ever seemed like more of a homosexual couple. I am very anxious for the new issue and I really want back story, back story, and more back story of these new servants of Hell and Heaven, especially Miracle Man (who really should be drawen like Gaimans design, I know Todd doesn't have the rights to put out a title of MM or any of the old ones, but we certainly have seen him reproduce his image. And if theres gonna be someone like him in the comic why not just use him. I mean come on we lost Anhela and Cogg over him esentaily.) and why Billy Kincaid is back,again..and this new Hellspawn. Things are looking good, heres looking to next month!
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[Snoova]

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Who is this miracle man at the begining of the issue in the prologue it says "he goads spawn to delve into his own mind and that spawn makes one last pilgramage to see wanda" when did all this happen I don't remember it at all. It must've been back b4 100 I think cause I don't recall seeing wanda much since then especially with spawn there. Please tell me if i'm wrong.

[KaMaSuTrAs]

Just got the Sketch Cover one today.........wohooooooooooooooooooooo :D

[Think Geek]

Holy Toledo's on a stick, what a great issue. This is like an entirely different comic book! That kid Christophers story seems pretty interesting! And of course Sam and Twitch are always good for comedy. The Disciple was pretty kickass! I just think his armor looks like a left over plane crash from WWII, but pretty cool, I like Redeemers costume better but Disciple ripped spawn a new one...literally. Great issue! Good Riddence Angel! A great wieght has been lifted off Spawn!

[AngelsRose]

Picking up my reserved copy on saturday...it looks so uber nifty! i'm getting goosebumps just by waiting another day or so...

[Destro777]

Are you guys serious? This issue wasn't all that it was hyped up to be. First off the writing took a dramatic step backwards. This book read like a high schooler's comic. Alot of the dialouge came off as laughably embarassing. The dialouge in the deadzone scene was flat out terrible. Everything seemed so forced.

The art. It reminds me of the Tony Daniel issues but only with less detail! I mean come on, the Spawn staple as been the details in each and every panel. The art in this book has a simple and stale look. Not too mention that most of those new characters theyve showed just scream cheese in design. Look at those sam and twitch panels and compare them to the old Greg books, or even Angel's books.

Now yea, obviously I should stick with it and see how things pan out (which I will). I have all 150 issues. But man, I hope things improve, things seem very amateurish at this point. Maybe I was expecting too much.

[Born_2_Die]

I'd be surprised if Christopher turned out to be Andy (Eddie "Redeemer"'s kid bro) cause he came out of Spawn's heart. I have no idea who he is or why he was there in the first place. I know Miracle Man looks too anime but i couldn't care less. He's just a great character.

What i'm wondering is if Hine is thinking of replacing Cog with him. I really can't wait to see if he tip toes around the legal issues of Gaiman's Miracle Man.

The detail Tan gives to Spawn's mask and skin sent chills through my spine. I noticed that spawn no longer has his guantlet over his left arm (i'll have to go back and check to see if the big boot is gone too). I don't think it's a costume change since Spawn never acknowledges it. I think it's just Tan's style and looks so different than Todd's, Greg's or Angels. I will mourn the loss of Angel's great spiky armour.

[Dragnilar]

Definently a lot of questions were raised. I wonder how Miracale Man is going to replace Cog... how would that work out? Would the idea be that Cog is basicaly Miracle Man without coming out and saying it? I'm really confused about that. And confused about how "Andy" came out of Spawn's heart... weird stuff.

BTW: The Desciple was AwESOME!!! I still liked the last Redeemer more becuase of his wings, but this guy was cool too.

I loved the way Tan has re-done Spawn's costume. We probably won't get to see him doing too much *** kicking though because it seems like Spawn first is going to get his *** kicked for the next two issues :-( MAJOR cliff hanger at the end.

[Jon Self]

Finially tracked down an issue and i'm really pleased with the new team.

[SPIKE_BEBOP]

...SPOILER?...



On the page where Spawn meets The Diciple who does that really cool thing with Spawn that is to cool to say without the pics, at the bottom middle panel, Spawn's blood is spewing out and in clear view is Tan's sig. Did anyone else see this and/or were you annoyed by it and how it lost the mood of the story at that piont?

[spawn5061]

okay

what was good:
the whole damn thing
the fact that spawn is kicking a ss agian.
angel's last penciles
tan's penciles
and the return of many great villians

what was bad.
spawn's costume change. one minute it was the one he has been with since issu 32. then it was a whole new one. but i do think i can explain that.
the fast paced, kinda sloppy storie. i'm not saying it was bad, it was great. it's just, spawn wouldn't run up and attack a kick a ss angel IN THE DEAD ZONE.
sam and twitch. they just looked funky.
their were a couple of minor things that i can't thing of off the top of my head. but all around a great book. my rating 9 out of 10.

and regrading the covers. got all of them except Greg's for i ran out of money. i do have that one saved though. the sketch cover, they had like 1 or 2 left when i bought mine. so i'm guessing there were only a limented amount made.

[avcprime]

like most of you said the story was fast and kind of superhero story. but the art looks good and lets hope the writing improves.

[Mandroid]

Got the Jim Lee cover, although I want Mc Farlanes. Man, my comic book shop ordered 50 and all but four were left. And the order came in today. Madness.

I love the new team. The art really gives it a biblical feel. The story seems to be getting bigger and better.

Man, cant wait for the new figures from this issue too. Miracle Man will make an awesome figure.

[A lucky punk]

hey guys, it's not Miracle Man, its The Man of Miracles. :)

[spawn5061]

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i think i know how spawn gets his hamburger face back. i'm guessing when the disciple ripped spawn's face off, it****ed up his face. then it got f ucked up even more when those deamons, sewed him back together. what do you all think?

[Mortalis6]

I got the Capullo cover, I'm not into getting all 5, especially not at 5.85 Canadian. However, I just finished reading it..solid solid issue I love the design for Thamuz and can't wait to see the figure next year.

[4 9 guy]

Well I got the Sketch cover, and Jim Lee's cover:) . The first pages with Angel are amazing. I love that stuff that he does. He sample pages of the "Freak" in that style, and thought they're were so great, and from what Angel has told me at cons is that he's doing his Marvel artwork in that style. Either SpiderMan or GhostRider? I think he said SpiderMan. I wish Angel tons of luck, and cant wait to see him at Marvel.:D
Philip's stuff has potential. It reminds me of Tony Daniel's stuff when he came on, or a VERY early Greg. I'm not big on extreme computer effects, so it could do without that. We'll see where this goes I guess, but I still wished that Angel stayed, and of course wish that Greg never left. But its still very early in game to say that Philip wont pull this off. But i think someone should let him know, not to rely on the colorist so much!:confused:

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[Master Gundam]

I agree, I really hope he does pull this off. As we recall Greg wasn't all that when he first started, I just hope Tan doesn't devolve like Angel did. And the colorist really needs to lay off the effects...really.

[LUNA41]

i thought the story was good but moved extremly fast. like the new characters. had to go to two comic shops to get all five. jim lee and the sketch books are flying off the shelves. looking to see where there going with christopher.

[Master Gundam]

Also since when did Spawn ef** talk to himself?! The dialogue in the alley was really bad, in a random way. Random like, since when did Spawn ef** talk to himself?!

(and by talk to himself I mean in they mental problem sort of way)

[A lucky punk]

Also since when did Spawn ef** talk to himself?! The dialogue in the alley was really bad, in a random way. Random like, since when did Spawn ef** talk to himself?!

(and by talk to himself I mean in they mental problem sort of way)

And he should know how things roll in a dead zone. :)

[A lucky punk]

I still liked the last Redeemer more becuase of his wings, but this guy was cool too.

If you look at the page of spawn getting his face ripped off and where disciple is dragging him you can see that the flames make wing "shapes" (if fire makes shapes) Anyways, I thought that was cool. Fire wings. :spawnorb:

[Jon Goff]

Also since when did Spawn ef** talk to himself?! The dialogue in the alley was really bad, in a random way. Random like, since when did Spawn ef** talk to himself?!

(and by talk to himself I mean in they mental problem sort of way)

He was talking to the bugs. The question then becomes...

Why?

-Jon

[bigun]

GoLoaf
Hoobloody ray somebody else noticed that about the sketch cover and the guy that owns the comic shop near me he's also trying to sell them as something there not.
When i phoned and told him yesterday his answer was I'll keep hold of them and see what they do he's hoping there going fetch a couple of hundred on ebay.

[craspter]

this is my first post ever. i. 150 deserves that. Got the the original, sketch and macfarlane cover today, and they are awesome. The story finally got me on the edge of my seat again. It made me think about what is going to happen in the future of spawn. i didn't had that feeling since Cog took over the throne. there is only one thing that bugs me. Christopher popped out of Al's heart, how can he have a mother...... It will probably be explained in the near future so i'm not worried about it. The disciple was by far the coolest new character. i just love his armour.
greets

[AtlastheChamp]

Okaaay....
but.... why doesn't anythingin the beginning prologue blurb make sense. What is going on? What is the first section about ? - spawn ahsnt met the mysterious man of miracles yet? when did spawn return to wanda?
and then, after it says 149, was that a summary of 149, cos it sure didnt seem like it.
Why was the begining blurb so confusing?



Anyway, the issue was wonderful, and its great to be moving forward in such a big way. River of blood - excellent start to the coming apocalypse, oh yes. And, Christopher. Anyone else think mabe this will be the "there will come a child, look to the child" that bootsy mentioned? I originally thought it the twins, but maybe htis is the guy.
Oh, and yeah,.... since al was in human form underneath the cowl, and when he got shot he bled... um... im sure the disciple, who was awesome, really messed him up.


But seriously, can someone fill me in on the prologue?
I LOVED THIS ISSUE!
Atlas

[SONICobra]

i thought this issue was bad @ss! im loving the new artwork, tan is amazing with his texture. i was a tad disappointed that spawn got his @ss beat so bad, so fast. i really wanted to see him fight. i love the new costume, its very fresh and evil looking. cant wait for 151 and series 29!

i was kinda pissed though, cause i reserved all five covers but they only had lees, mcfarlanes, and gregs there, and the other two on order. like others have said spawn was sold out, hopefully this is a trend and spawn can reclame its throne as one of the topselling comics.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

from now on to avoid confusions we shall refer to Man of Miracles as MoM instead of Miracle Man or MM

[Born_2_Die]

Spawn was sold out, hopefully this is a trend and spawn can reclame its throne as one of the topselling comics.

Amen to that.

[misfit84j]

I've always had the fact that Wanda'a babies were never really clarified, and Botsy's "there will be a child" quote in my head. I hope we see Bootsy again.

Are any of these things acknowledged?

--edit: nm don't answer.:p

[Cyan Bloodbane]

Genius!

Like any worthy tactician, the Spawn comic has turned some if it's worse traits and weaknesses into it's greatest of stengths!

The loss of Cog, or Anglela set the story back quite a bit. For years, I wondered What the hell Todd was holding onto the MM character for.

And now, I see the grand scheme. And it is perfect. Image's weakness is now it's stength.

Booyaka!

[SpawnSC]

I got all the covers (I get all variants and spin offs) and I loved this issue. This issue was like a breathe of fresh air into the spawn series. Gregs cover is my favorite, Todds cover(s) are not that good in my opinion. I can not wait to the future issues, Tan is a perfect fit for the series. The art and story are top notch! I was not disapointed at all. I can not wait to the next issue! Great job Spawn team.

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I was shocked to see spawns face get ripped off like that! my jaw dropped and I thought awesome. I want to see new powerful enemies! I want to see spawn get new challenges and that was my favorite part of the issue. Spawn got his @$$ handed to him and tossed in the garbage.

[Master Gundam]

He was talking to the bugs. The question then becomes...

Why?

-Jon

Ah, I thought he could have been, but he seemed off right when he got to the alley. Spawn has always had a strong conection with bugs, especially when Nyx turn him Human, but then why would those bugs force him to go to the dead zone? Cause we all know that place means business after he fought Billy Kinaid when he was possessing everyone. Oh so many questions to be answered.

[DarthNagrul]

I have not read 150 yet. I plan on picking it up tonight. From what I read so far that this is the definite Spawn story out there. Looking forward to reading it.

[rpgguy_1o1]

uhhhhg i reserved all the covers, but they ran out on the shelf and sold two of mine!!
so they told me theyd reorder greg's and the sketch for me, so theyd better...

but yeah, as confusing as it was, i loved this issue.
for awhile i thought christopher was that kid from that christmas issue, that loves the rudlph video, but im pretty sure its just a brand new character.
i thought that the colouring was kind of overdone as well, but i loved angels stuff, i hope he comes back to do an issue or a oneshot or something.

my favourite part is when spawns face gets ripped off
my least favourite part was some of the dialouge, especially sam and twitch, and of course the bug house line.

but all in all i was generally pleased with this issue

[SPIKE_BEBOP]

Two things:
1. I like the art but it seems inconsistant:

spawn (normal) to sam & twitch (cartoonish) to newsman (almost cartoon but not totally) to hell (very detailed) to the mom (very smooth and 2D)

2. Did the picture of Spawn on the table scream Vader to anyone else?

[spawn5061]

i always thoght that bootsy's quote, their shall be a child ment that it was cyan since she was so connected with spawn.

and for christopher. i think he deid and the Man of Miricles broght him back from spawn's heart. his mom did say "she said he'd be back." that's what i think

and was Man of Miricles ever in another issue pervioly, or is he a new character that ever one knew would come about?

[TrAvisTy.]

i havent read the issue yet but for those that have...
is there a pin-up in it? if so, by who? and is there anything about the first capullo cover we were shown???

what issue was the bootsy quote in?

[rpgguy_1o1]

no friggin pinup, sorry man, theyve got a nice little preview of 150 tho

[SPIKE_BEBOP]

no friggin pinup, sorry man, theyve got a nice little preview of 150 tho

151 you mean. They have (in the back) no ad pages but instead a page of thumbnail sized penciled pages for the next issue!

[rpgguy_1o1]

yeah, 151

i didnt even really look at the preview, id rather just read it when it comes out, cant wait for that cover either

[TrAvisTy.]

so the original greg cover is a....mystery

[Matt the Undead]

i thought it had a hellspawn crossed with undead feel to it at points.

i am confused, with that prologue it seems as if hine is trying to rewrite the spawn mythos. i generally followed the 149 summary and loved the Interlude.

and it also has become clear that spawns enemies are maifestations, not the real things.

oh and i thought the bug house line was entertaining.

im starting to piece together who christopher might be, and im kinda annoyed that kincaid is back.

[SONICobra]

yeah, i really liked that too, it was my fav of all of them.

[Dragnilar]

Yeah... I saw the Disciple's flaming wings... they were cool. I guess I just liked the blue Redeemer more because he had all of the gold trim. Maybe I"ll start to like Disciple more when they release his action figure.

I hope that Tan emphasize's Spawn's mouth like he did on that backround you can download from the Milestone's section. I know it kind of gives Spawn a 'Venom' look, but I think it adds a "monster" dimension to him.

[Master Gundam]

i with that prologue it seems as if hine is trying to rewrite the spawn mythos... and im kinda annoyed that kincaid is back.

Yea when reading the prologue I found myself thinking, "No I'm prettty sure that happened first." But I felt more that he was just trying to clue poeple in. As far as Kincaid being back I was pretty surprised, because Todd usually spaces out his characters comming back very well. He always said he hated it in Spider-Man every couple of issues the Lizard would come back. Though it has been more than 50 issues since we've seen him last it still feels a little too soon.

[magusraven]

This issue was ok. The new characters are good except for Man of Miracles. New Art is good, writing, as others pointed out, at times was terrible. I cant wait for the next issue.

However the following things really bothered me:
1. Angel didnt get a 150 cover. As much as I didnt like the guy, I have to admit he deserved one. He should have been the 5th one not that crappy sketch one. Also he only did 4 or 5 pages, what was that?

2. Nyx? soooo about her?

3. Tremor and Tiffany at the end. Are they even dead?

[mikec8785]

Alright here is my theory about the bugs. I knew that Spawn was talking to the bugs in the alley, but I didn't really understand why. He has never had a conversation with them before. And, I thought the whole go into the dead zone and fight the Disciple knowing full well that Spawn had no powers was kind of weird. I think that the bugs were being controlled by Mammon. Why would they tell him to go into the dead zone so he could get a** kicked? Mammon wanted Spawn to return to hell so he could have Thamuz question him. That's what I think at least. I like a lot of other people was also confused by the prologue and interlude. I have no idea who the MoM is and how Spawn has been in contact with him before.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

This issue was ok. The new characters are good except for Man of Miracles. New Art is good, writing, as others pointed out, at times was terrible. I cant wait for the next issue.

However the following things really bothered me:
1. Angel didnt get a 150 cover. As much as I didnt like the guy, I have to admit he deserved one. He should have been the 5th one not that crappy sketch one. Also he only did 4 or 5 pages, what was that?

2. Nyx? soooo about her?

3. Tremor and Tiffany at the end. Are they even dead?

1) Angel Medina is a hack

2) Nyx is still powerless back on earth

3) Tremor and Tiffany aren't dead. Thamuz uses the illusions of former adversaries in order to torment Al. If you remember, the Phil Timper version of Redeemer never died either and he's also one of the "Inquisitioners"

[spawn5061]

Alright here is my theory about the bugs. I knew that Spawn was talking to the bugs in the alley, but I didn't really understand why. He has never had a conversation with them before. And, I thought the whole go into the dead zone and fight the Disciple knowing full well that Spawn had no powers was kind of weird. I think that the bugs were being controlled by Mammon. Why would they tell him to go into the dead zone so he could get a** kicked? Mammon wanted Spawn to return to hell so he could have Thamuz question him. That's what I think at least. I like a lot of other people was also confused by the prologue and interlude. I have no idea who the MoM is and how Spawn has been in contact with him before.

i think you may be on to something. rep for you

[KidKamikaze10]

Could someone please pm me the spoilers?

Thank you in advance!

[DarthNagrul]

I just got through reading 150 and this is one hell of an issue. Spawn is back and is better than before that is until he got torn limb from limb. Now he is back in Hell and is facing Thamuz and Mammon, it was really cool to see all of Spawn's old enemies back as the Inquisitors. Plus seeing Billy Kincaid back as well makes me want to see him get stabbed with popsicles and ice cream scoopers again; he is back to being his old child molesting self again, hopefully Chris won't become one of those characters where he gets killed off, I think that would be a cool twist to have this child Hellspawn battling the forces of evil and changing the fate of humanity.:spawnskul

[Dan Kane]

What is the Man of Miracles was actually Houdini returning?

[TrAvisTy.]

that would be lame

[Zulithe]

seriously... is The Man of Miracles none other than Miracle Man???? Does Todd have the rights to that character, I kinda got lost in all those court battles and don't recall the outcome.

It would be nice if McFarlane staff could at least clear up this one detail. I mean, if it really is him, I suppose it may be a spoiler if it were revealed (although if it really is him, everyone will say it was obvious in the first place, but actually I'm not so sure...) but if it isn't Miracleman, we kinda need to know because there was that whole rights dispute over who controls Miracleman and all...

So, Miracleman or not!?

I also want to say that I am so pleased with this issue. The art (not just the covers, but mostly the interiors!!!!), new story threads, old story threads coming back... things are looking bright in the Spawn-verse once again and I thank McFarlane and his staff for doing this :)

And as someone who is not a Medina fan, I will say that this issue holds some of Medina's finest pages and I wish him well in whatever he does next! But,,, TAN IS THE MAN! I'm so psyched to see him on board!

This is one long-time Spawn reader who can't stop singing praises :)

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

last I heard Todd no longer had the rights to MM

[Born_2_Die]

But Hine may have rights to Man of Miracles.

[Slayer Vannion]

I loved this issue. I have read Spawn since I was 10 and this was absolutely awesome.

But onto the stuff in the issue.

1. The bugs were definetly working for Mammon. They goaded Spawn to get his *** kicked and then who was on Earth waiting to pick up the pieces, Mammons minions.

2. The Man of Miracles really confuses me. I never really followed the whole legal issue with Angela and Cog so I feel a tad out in the dark. So is everyone saying that Cog in his tower has been replaced by the Man of Miracles in his tower? And then if so, i may be a bit slow, but are their two factions in hell right now.

3. God's been "missing," is our Man of Miracles him?

4. Is the apocolypse coming to earth? I mean thats what all the blood in the mississppi was for right? So is everything going towards the final battle and Spawns the key. And maybe the Man of Miracles needs a little help from his own hellspawn for this occasion.

Eh, just some thoughts and questions.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

But Hine may have rights to Man of Miracles.

since he just created him I would expect so, unless Todd created him or they co-created him. I haven't found any reference to a character named "Man of Miracles" except as a Christian comic hero who appeared in maybe 3 total issues of some religious attempt at a comic.

anyway, what's apparent to me is this. Miracleman (not Miracle Man) is not Man of Miracles.


THE BATTLE FOR MIRACLEMAN
At this point in the story, Moore ended his run on MIRACLEMAN and passed the torch to Neil Gaiman and Mark Buckingham. Gaiman immediately saw flaws in the perfect society that Miracleman had created, and set about slowly unravelling this world. Gaiman's run on MIRACLEMAN was brief due to the bankruptcy of Eclipse Comics and its subsequent purchase by Todd McFarlane.

Gaiman's vision of Miracleman was very different to Moore's. Both saw the character as a being of incredible perfection living amongst flawed beings. Creatively, Gaiman had quite a difficult chore to follow up Moore's work, but what he did, though brief and unfinished, was transcendent. In Gaiman's first story arc, "The Golden Age", Miracleman had become a demagogue in a world of his own creation, where the dead lived on in an underground city. A series of Andy Warhol-esque beings worked to help Gargunza reform as a more sympathetic creature, and Miracleman revived ****y Dauntless to life, only to be rejected by him when he urged Dauntless to accept his sexuality.

The series ended after only two issues of Gaiman and Buckingham's second arc, "The Silver Age." A third issue was partially completed partially completed (http://www.v3space.com/a/a52/15/marvelman/frameset.html), but never went to press. All we have now is Gaiman's promise to finish the series once the copyright is resolved. Miracleman was partially owned by its creators and by Eclipse. The ownership changed hands from creator to creator, but when Todd McFarlane purchased the Eclipse Comics lot, he claimed ownership of Miracleman and has thus stalled the completion of Gaiman's run.

Subsequently, Neil Gaiman created Marvels & Miracles, LLC (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=566) to once and for all resolve the copyright debacle over Miracleman. It's become quite a muddle (http://www.tcj.com/250/n_gvm.html), to the point where it's suggested actual ownership might never have passed between WARRIOR editor Dez Skinn, who had originally held the 1950s MARVELMAN copyright, and Alan Moore.

The series itself never ran on a consistent publishing schedule. At times, months would pass between issues. This problem first arose after the WARRIOR reprints had all been run in America, and once again when John Totleben was completing the "Olympus" storyarc. Totleben was diagnosed with a degenerative retinal condition called Usher Syndrom Type II, wherein his vision became increasingly blurry. It's a testament to his artistic dedication that he was able to continue on with MIRACLEMAN and even to craft such a detailed vision of the apocalypse.

When Gaiman and Buckingham began their work on MIRACLEMAN, publishing delays were often caused by the two creators waiting for the checks to arrive for the previous issue before setting to work on the current one. Eventually, the checks simply stopped arriving, and Eclipse went bankrupt. It has been rumoured that Marvel Comics will publish the entirety of MIRACLEMAN in trade format when the rights issues are resolved, and that Gaiman and Buckingham will complete "The Silver Age" and round out the series with "The Dark Age", in which the saga of Miracleman will be resolved. As time passes, the anticipation once felt by old fans of the series might waver, but the increasing chatter from the fans who have yet to ever experience MIRACLEMAN helps the legend grow stronger. It feels like it's simply a matter of time before this series is collected once again. When it happens, we should all be in for a treat.

[mikec8785]

I have a question about the Man of Miracles. In the Prologue it says:
The mysterious Man of Miracles goads Spawn to delve into his own mind to uncover the truth. Spawn makes one last pilgrimage to see the woman he still loves.
Was there ever an issue where Cog told Spawn this? I seem to remember this happening and Spawn going to see Wanda. However, I don't have the time to look through past issues. If someone could tell me the last issue Cog was in and the issue Terry and Wanda moved it would be helpful and I could look into it. It seems like people are saying the Man of Miracles is the new Cog, or is Cog, and Hine is just trying to get around the rights dispute. I could be totally off on what I'm thinking, but who knows.

[SPIKE_BEBOP]

Yeah I seem to remember Spawn going to see Wanda and talking to her but I could be wrong. Also, I thought that the blood in the Mississippi River was Spawn's. Just my opinon.

[HousesofHoly]

angels drawings were very very good at the beginning of the issue.... so is chris in some weird dimension or something?

[spawn5061]

well cog is in hell as cain.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

has anyone else come to the conclusion that the Spawn story in the Image Hardcover might shed some light onto this?

[spawn5061]

now i have.

[mikec8785]

I thought I read somewhere that the story in the Image Hardcover was going to deal with Spawn and Wanda.

[Snoova]

has anyone else come to the conclusion that the Spawn story in the Image Hardcover might shed some light onto this?


Very interesting conclusion and probally right on the money rep for you. I just wish they had got the hardcover out in time to make that more apperant.

[Snoova]

I just pulled this off the news board so i'm sure avatar is right


Image Comics Hardcover
Todd McFarlane returns to comic books with a much-anticipated tale that will see his creation, Spawn, come to terms with the emotions that first led him to his current state of being -- that of a damned soul on a quest for redemption through an after-life filled with violence and deceit.

Penciled and written by Todd, the Spawn story in the Image Comics Hardcover ties directly into the events of issue #150 and sets the stage for things to come.

[rpgguy_1o1]

i dont think that man of miracles is in anyway related to miracleman, i think its just more of a "**** you", about the rights thing.
and i didnt get the impression that kincaid was back, i kind of thought that was like a flashback or some sort of alternate timeline/universe dealy. i dont know for sure, thats just kind of what i gathered, last we had heard kincaid was good and dead.

im also not really clear why people jumped to the conclusion that MoM would be replacing cog, i think theyre still seperate characters, but again i dont know for sure

[curselet]

just finished this issue.it was better then all the last 50 combined.i got gregs cover.they didnt even have the sketch cover or todds. every thing in this issue was absolutly perfect.the art, whcich is better hten ,dare i say it,cappulos.and the story was superb.
i love the disciple and thamuz.
did anyone else notice that when chris was looking at the toys that his whole lower body was badly burnt like spawns?but head wasnt. my only gripe is that this new man of miracles guy is lame. nyx better watch her back cause the new guy might over throw her on the throne of lameness

[A lucky punk]

im also not really clear why people jumped to the conclusion that MoM would be replacing cog, i think theyre still seperate characters, but again i dont know for sure

Yeah I was wondering the same thing. I don't see any evidence that MoM and Cog are one and the same.

[craspter]

MoM is asking himself: ''so, chris... ....what can i show you? and then kincaid starts to show those action figures. starting with malebolgia. and then chris has a vision of how spawn took Mal's head. so i think he has something to do with kincaid showing up.

i also think that MoM and coq are 2 totally different characters. The king of hell leaving his throne unprotected and help a child? i don't think so!!

[Born_2_Die]

...SPOILER?...



On the page where Spawn meets The Diciple who does that really cool thing with Spawn that is to cool to say without the pics, at the bottom middle panel, Spawn's blood is spewing out and in clear view is Tan's sig. Did anyone else see this and/or were you annoyed by it and how it lost the mood of the story at that piont?
Thanks for pointing that out. I completely missed it.

[Darknet]

I really liked this issue. It also seems to be a preview of a new Golden Age of Spawn. Maybe Spawn will make a comeback and be popular once again.

BTW, my theory was semi-correct! Mammon is working for that guy in hell!

[Matt the Undead]

I think what they may have meant by MoM replacing Cog is one of mentorship. Man of Miracles may become the new mentor to Spawn / Christopher. Now I can't wait for the Image Comics Hardcover.

[curselet]

i thought that guy was working for mammon

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

i thought that guy was working for mammon

if you're referring to Thamuz... he is working for Mammon.

[Mortalis6]

i always thoght that bootsy's quote, their shall be a child ment that it was cyan since she was so connected with spawn.

and for christopher. i think he deid and the Man of Miricles broght him back from spawn's heart. his mom did say "she said he'd be back." that's what i think

and was Man of Miricles ever in another issue pervioly, or is he a new character that ever one knew would come about?

Yes, that's a question I was asking myself as well, did you notice that the angel had the same hair as the female Hellspawn. And the Man of Miracles seems like an updated version of Cog, did you notice how he seemed like a guide to the new child Spawn? It was very simular to how Cog was with Al only this time alot kinder...And wasn't Al suppose to save the world as well but he never actually gave a damn. And doesn't Thamuz kinda act like Malbolgia with all the minions and how he can actually beat down and control Al? I can't wait to see what David has in store for us this is a great start.:spawnorb:

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Yes, that's a question I was asking myself as well, did you notice that the angel had the same hair as the female Hellspawn. And the Man of Miracles seems like an updated version of Cog, did you notice how he seemed like a guide to the new child spawn? And doesn't Thazmus kinda act like Malbolgia, with all the minions and how he can actually beat down on Al? Simular to how Cog was with Al. only alot kinder. I can't wait to see what David has in store for us this is a great start.:spawnorb:

I'm not getting that at all from either character...

[Country Time]

Theres a New Spawn?

[Mortalis6]

The Man of Miracles was there for the birth of the child spawn. Cog was there for Al's birth.
Cog always claimed that Al had a higher purpose. The Man of Miracles states that the boy has to save the world. You can't tell me there are no simularities...

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

The Man of Miracles was there for the birth of the child spawn. Cog was there for Al's birth.
Cog always claimed that Al had a higher purpose. The Man of Miracles states that the boy has to save the world. You can't tell me there are no simularities...

I'm not saying their aren't similarities but I'm not getting anywhere near the same feel.

[Mortalis6]

No your right these new characters have a different purpose than what Cog or Malbolgia had in the past, but they do share simular origins at least.

[HousesofHoly]

how do we know cog is cain or w/e? whats that all about

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

how do we know cog is cain or w/e? whats that all about

because it's in the comic, and it's not all that subtle

[HousesofHoly]

hmm.... im guessing that must be mentioned before 150 then?

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

oh yeah... like 30 issues ago

[HousesofHoly]

hmm... past 100 i got issues 130-143, then 150. so.... yeah. i guess i wouldn't know. i didnt like angels art so i didnt buy too many

[PHATSO]

Well, I just read it today and set it down, and I'm not quite sure what to think.

Some of the plot twists were pretty crazy, and to be honest, just didn't add up to me. Wanda actually being the Violator in disguise the whole time? That was a little far-fetched, and I think they could have found a better way to break it to us than to have an explicitly drawn sex scene with him and Spawn. Though I must admit, Al's surprised face when he grabs a handful of Violator junk in bed was hilarious.

All in all, it was an interesting read, but I'll have to let it sink in for a while until I can fully appreciate it.

[titltn21]

Are you guys serious? This issue wasn't all that it was hyped up to be. First off the writing took a dramatic step backwards. This book read like a high schooler's comic. Alot of the dialouge came off as laughably embarassing. The dialouge in the deadzone scene was flat out terrible. Everything seemed so forced.

The art. It reminds me of the Tony Daniel issues but only with less detail! I mean come on, the Spawn staple as been the details in each and every panel. The art in this book has a simple and stale look. Not too mention that most of those new characters theyve showed just scream cheese in design. Look at those sam and twitch panels and compare them to the old Greg books, or even Angel's books.

Now yea, obviously I should stick with it and see how things pan out (which I will). I have all 150 issues. But man, I hope things improve, things seem very amateurish at this point. Maybe I was expecting too much.

First time post, long time reader. 150 Issues - That Rocks, but Destro777 is dead on. I don't like the new art and the story is choppy. Spawn got tore to bits and the page looks cheesy. Where is the detail I've come to enjoy? The Sam and Twitch pages are even worse in my opinion.

Take a look at issue 51 too. That is when Spawn lost his heart once before (I don't remember it ever being returned)

Take a look at issue 41 too. That is when Spawn was tore apart and in put into jars by the Curse. There was lot more crisper detail in those images.

I do have high hopes for Thamuz. I actually hope he is someone that Spawn cannot beat, much like the Heap. Here is too issue 300 - the journey continues.

[Brandon B]

Did anyone noticed that in the corner of the last page (actually it was a two page spreader) that ol Malebolgia's head is in the corner? I thought he was dead for good, like Angela. Also the Clown is standing before Mammon who is standing in front of the Violator? What's the deal with that?

Me, I'm just guessing that all those characters are not really there, just projections from Thamuz to try to get the secrets from Spawn. But hey, wont know until issue 151 gets here....

[Dragnilar]

Some of the plot twists were pretty crazy, and to be honest, just didn't add up to me. Wanda actually being the Violator in disguise the whole time? That was a little far-fetched, and I think they could have found a better way to break it to us than to have an explicitly drawn sex scene with him and Spawn. Though I must admit, Al's surprised face when he grabs a handful of Violator junk in bed was hilarious.

Heh heh heh...

[nabraxan]

Seeing as the kid is a manifestation of spawn's heart, is the man of miracles deciding whether or not spawn is worthy enough to have a heart?

will the inclusion of a heart allow spawn to keep some form of his humanity?

will the lack of a heart allow spawn to realise his hell born potential, and distance himself away from wanda and the twins?

Is lord thamuz simply 'employed' by mammon to extract secrets?

in which case does this make him fairly insignificant as a major character?

are we going to learn more about the disciple?

This issue was NOT what it was all cracked up to be. I thought we were going to have some major revelation or something, but i was dissapointed at the lack of anything shocking happening.
There was also the inconcistency, of spawn's heart. it was ripped out a hundred issues back, or did i miss something?
The Disciple was very good and i cant wait to see more of him. I would rather see more of him than Thamuz, however. The angels and heaven havent figured too much in recent spawn history, which is why they should be included in it more!
And it appears that a few of you have slagged off phillip tans artwork.
why?
apart from the fact it wasnt clear what happened between the disciple and spawn, it was generally good, and i can certainly compare his style to greg capullo's, no its nowhere near his best, but at the same time its not too far off either. Judging by the detail of some of the characters (some!), i would say the datail of a lot of characters will get a whole lot better.

Despite the fact that i didnt really enjoy the issue too much, i got all of the covers, i still love spawn, and i will still keep on collecting.

Plus i love the questions that spawn can consistently raise.

:spawnorb:

[nabraxan]

Doh!

I just realised that spawn got hiis heart and all major organs back when he was reborn as a human bacause of cogliostro!!

Duh!

[TrAvisTy.]

nice thinking. very nice.

[Brandon B]

hey I dont know if someone's asked this before but I'm too lazy to go back pages and look for it, so here it goes anyway.....

what you think of Phillip Tan's Sam and Twitch version???

I thought that they looked very early Spawn McFarlane (Spawn issues 1-15)

[AtlastheChamp]

So, without a heart, and having been torn limb by limb, I imagine we're in for something nasty when we one day see Spawn sans costume one day.

And yup, I bet the hardcover has Spawn going back to see Wanda, in his human Al Simmons form. But still! That prologue is confusing. JON GOFF can you clear that up please?

[Mandroid]

A little bit off topic here, but the page where spawn is lying down reassembled would make a cool figure.

And what other issues was the Man of Miracles in. The prologue mentions that hes been doing other stuff. Who is he?

[curselet]

Well, I just read it today and set it down, and I'm not quite sure what to think.

Some of the plot twists were pretty crazy, and to be honest, just didn't add up to me. Wanda actually being the Violator in disguise the whole time? That was a little far-fetched, and I think they could have found a better way to break it to us than to have an explicitly drawn sex scene with him and Spawn. Though I must admit, Al's surprised face when he grabs a handful of Violator junk in bed was hilarious.

All in all, it was an interesting read, but I'll have to let it sink in for a while until I can fully appreciate it.
where did it say wanda was the violator?and al that stuff

[spawn5061]

yea, that's what i was wondering!!!

[mikec8785]

Where did u find this?

[mikec8785]

Nevermind, I saw that it was in the comics section.

[A lucky punk]

maybe that's Christopher's mom after she commits suicide.

If my mom looked like that I wouldn't have wasted time in a toy store.

[Andre']

Wow, I was dissapointed with this issue. When did Spawn return as a demon. I thought that he was a resurrected by Cog and Nyx sewed his symbiot back on. He should be a human, not a demon able to absorb bugs and be rebuilt after being torn apart. The prologue made no sense. The writing and dialogue was embarassingly bad, i wrote better in high school. Why would he go the teh Dead Zone adn fight an angel for no reason. It was mindless and foolish. I have all 150 issues of Spawn adn every spinoff (even Dangerous Escapes or whatever that Houdini crap was), and if this is the level of srorytelling we can now expect, well i think I may have to move on. I might have been entertained by this when I was 12, but I hope I was smarter even then.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Wow, I was dissapointed with this issue. When did Spawn return as a demon. I thought that he was a resurrected by Cog and Nyx sewed his symbiot back on. He should be a human, not a demon able to absorb bugs and be rebuilt after being torn apart. The prologue made no sense. The writing and dialogue was embarassingly bad, i wrote better in high school. Why would he go the teh Dead Zone adn fight an angel for no reason. It was mindless and foolish. I have all 150 issues of Spawn adn every spinoff (even Dangerous Escapes or whatever that Houdini crap was), and if this is the level of srorytelling we can now expect, well i think I may have to move on. I might have been entertained by this when I was 12, but I hope I was smarter even then.

Spawn was always able to absorb bugs because that is part of his nature as a Hellspawn that has always been seperate from his hell-born powers. Cog taught him how to connect with the creatures of the night in order to heal and create diversions without having to use up precious energy. As long as he is bonded to K7-Leetha he can interact with bugs even with his human body back. If he gets shot and doesn't heal himself with his powers or by other means he'll feel it when his symbiote retracts like when he was laid up in the hospital.

As for heading into the Dead Zone and fighting The Disciple. He was goaded into going there and couple that with his perpetual zeal for falling into blind rage and forgetting what he is doing and you have the fatal flaw of Spawn. He seems to abandon all logic when he's bent on revenge. That's nothing new.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

maybe that's Christopher's mom after she commits suicide.

If my mom looked like that I wouldn't have wasted time in a toy store.

That would be Zera, the newest of Heaven's Huntress Angels.

[A lucky punk]

That would be Zera, the newest of Heaven's Huntress Angels.

rock on, thanks.

where'd you find that little bit of info?

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231757&highlight=zera

[DragonVileHater]

What if Christopher was the missing God, and his mother was Earth/Greenworld? Didn't Greenworld mention to Spawn in one issue that they would stop the war between Heaven and Hell by destroying all humans so that they would have nothing to fight over? Maybe Christopher's mother's impending suicide is symbolic of Greenworld wiping out humans. The Man of Miracles could be trying to help God return. I dunno, I just got this idea from a thread a while back stating a theory about Spawn possibly being God. I didn't really think that Spawn could be God but maybe this theory could kind of prove that one semi correct?

[DragonVileHater]

God is a chameleon of sorts, after all...I also believe that this child is the one that Bootsy said to look to. Now, I wonder how the twins fit into all of this...

[snk-freak]

in an interview i have read, that todd and co have placed some hints in previews issues that will lead directly to the event in issue 150 and the upcoming issues. where are these hints? does anybody know them?

[nabraxan]

has anyone considered the possibilty that the man of miracles could be god?

think about it, he takes the heart of a hellspawn, and turns it into an innocent child.

perhaps the point of this is to see whether spawns heart is capable of making the right choice when it comes down to it.

will he give in to temptation and take the figures and therefore be distracted , and forever have his innocence tainted by kincaid?
Seeing as kincaid is basically man of miracles, this is all an illusion that he has created.
if the boy can return to his mother and keep his promise then this will show that he can honour his mothers word and not be tempted by temptation, keeping spawn's heart pure.

Before anyone asks about the man of miracles being kincaid, remeber this bit,

at the bottom of one page man of miracles says,
"so chris.....(next panel)....what can i show you?"

and at the top of the next page kincaid is showing christopher/spawn's heart figures.

perhaps man of miracles/god is concerned about the coming war, and his 'greatest' creation, earth and man. therefore he feels he must intervene in some small way as he does'nt have all of his powers since he left the throne.

Much like 'lucifer' who left the throne of hell because he didnt to rule over it.
i am of course reffering to the comic Lucifer

[Fury Bringer]

I'm not sure if I missed something along the way, but was what we saw of Al as a child something new? Also, I noticed his Dad's scar was the same as on Mammon.

Is it possible that the Man of Miracles is the guy from the Greenworld that Spawn meets after his first encounter with the Heap? Maybe he is helping Christopher (God or son of God, etc.) to recreate a balance in the war, since the throne is empty.

[Paradyme]

Issue #150 is obviously a turning point for the Spawn comic. I ordered all four (which I just recently found out was five) comics and recieved them all.

After reading this issue I was enthralled with it. I absolutely love the way the story is heading and all the new characters that appeared. Worried I am not anymore about Spawn having a small change of hands. It is simply a step up from previous versions.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I'm not sure if I missed something along the way, but was what we saw of Al as a child something new? Also, I noticed his Dad's scar was the same as on Mammon.

Is it possible that the Man of Miracles is the guy from the Greenworld that Spawn meets after his first encounter with the Heap? Maybe he is helping Christopher (God or son of God, etc.) to recreate a balance in the war, since the throne is empty.

now that's a fresh idea. I never even though of a connection between MoM and The Keeper.

[magusraven]

Anyone notice Spawn's new hands? They are big claw things now.

Also I hope something bad happens to Man of Miracles, like he gets caught in a chemical fire or something. Theres something about him that I just dont like, maybe its his face decoration.

[death scythe]

So guys any speculation on The Disciple. I found that it emphasized the number twelve on his face a little bit too much. It must meen something. If it doesnt have to do with previous issues then the only link i could see would be the 12 apostles and hes like all of them combined or something. Anyways i spent like 10 minutes just looking at that picture of him.

[Born_2_Die]

has anyone considered the possibilty that the man of miracles could be god?

think about it, he takes the heart of a hellspawn, and turns it into an innocent child.

perhaps the point of this is to see whether spawns heart is capable of making the right choice when it comes down to it.

will he give in to temptation and take the figures and therefore be distracted , and forever have his innocence tainted by kincaid?
Seeing as kincaid is basically man of miracles, this is all an illusion that he has created.
if the boy can return to his mother and keep his promise then this will show that he can honour his mothers word and not be tempted by temptation, keeping spawn's heart pure.

Before anyone asks about the man of miracles being kincaid, remeber this bit,

at the bottom of one page man of miracles says,
"so chris.....(next panel)....what can i show you?"

and at the top of the next page kincaid is showing christopher/spawn's heart figures.

perhaps man of miracles/god is concerned about the coming war, and his 'greatest' creation, earth and man. therefore he feels he must intervene in some small way as he does'nt have all of his powers since he left the throne.

Much like 'lucifer' who left the throne of hell because he didnt to rule over it.
i am of course reffering to the comic Lucifer
As usual you've put way too much thought into this. With hoguin it's always ended up in a loose end or was something much simpler. I doubt you're right but I hope you are. Hell i really hope Hine goes even crazier and makes you think twice as hard.

[AtlastheChamp]

Maybe the boy, Christopher, is Heaven's new Spawn.
Maybe this will all build to Al Simmons and Christopher, both as full powered Spawns, having to fight.
I mean, whose to say Al will even get out of this at all. Maybe after he reveals his secret he will be conditioned and become a dark warrior for mammon, and heaven will have to fight him directly now, and to do that they will use Christopher, a spawn of light.
I certainly cant imagine how he will get out. He's strapped down tyed to a table surrounded by demons.

I am happy for issue 150!

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

well the simple fact that the symbiote hates Heaven pretty much negates a hellspawn being a Heavenly Warrior. I mean, do you remember what it did last time it was there? it freaked out and when it got back to Earth tried to take control.

[rpgguy_1o1]

atlas, my french is pretty rusty, but doesnt the last line of your sig mean "the king is dead, live the king"?

[nabraxan]

perhaps by preserving spawns heart and allowing to grow it into a spawn, will keep al's humanity alive.

thus being the last weapon that heaven would ever need to kill spawn, because how could spawn kill a part of himself?

which is why i think that the man of miracles is god.

in fact didnt god/heavens leader, -in the form of an old lady- once say that he is the one?

And assuming that the man of miracles definitley isnt mammon, miracles are always associated with heaven and god...

[A lucky punk]

miracles are always associated with heaven and god...

yeah but outside of spawn, heaven is almost always seen as "good." In Spawn's world, Heaven is no better than Hell.

[misfit84j]

After reading 150, I'm totally relieved and blown away at the same time. It's been said already, but it was like i was reading a completely different book. Wow. Total 180(eh, almost) from what we were getting for far too long. The artwork in most places is by leaps and bounds better than Medina's, and the dialogue is more blunt. More realistic. More . . . ok the writing is just better. It made me think as to what the hell is going to happen in the next issues, something I hadn't felt since Urizen appeared. And that is a looong time.

What I didn't like, but didn't hate:
1. Twitch. He sort of looked like a giant nose. hehe.

2. Spawn getting vs. the Disciple. Ok, I didn't really "not like" this, but it was a little odd to me. So Spawn goes to the dead zone and gets his arse handed to him(almost literally), sending him to hell again. What made me think about this was that either Al was legitimately trying to take on the Disciple without any powers, which is pretty much pointless, or he KNEW that he was supposed to die and go to hell, thus meeting up with Mammon. . . . but that's pretty much what Mammon's plan was most likely. What REALLY made me think was that Al must have known that the only way to take out Mammon was to play in his game, to follow Mammon's plans. I dunno, that whole thing was just odd, but not too odd. Enough about this, my head's spinning.


What I liked:
1. The artwork and the writing of course. Spawn is a demon-like creature, instead of some flimsey Picasso.

2. Medina's last pages. I hated his spawn artwork, but toddammit I respect the guy. I'm sure he'll be awesome with his future spiderman works.

3. The cliffhanger at the end. I mean , what do you say when you're standing surrounded by ALL of your enemies?

4. The fact that I am actually looking forward to the next issues, and that I know that I will enjoy it.

5. The cover. Oh boy, the covers.


Oh! I'd like to share what I think who everyone is. Man of Miracles. I can't help but think that he has his own plans for the future. He has some scheme goin' and I got my eye on that guy. Simply put, I think he's using Spawn, just like everybody else has.

And the kid, Christopher, I think he is one of spawn's past enemies. Or someone he's already encountered. Maybe it's the child form of them, like how when they were a child or something. These are my first impressions so I'll probly change my thoughts somewhere down the line.

So bottom line: I think spawn is the ONLY good guy in this picture. Everyone is out to get him.

[KidKamikaze10]

Could some give out a full story spoiler, please? Got no access to a comic book store.

[misfit84j]

Highlight below for spoiler

Open with Spawn remembering everything he's been through. From his death, to Mammon taking his memories.
He then awakens in the alleys, on his throne of maggots, as if the whole thing had been a dream. Spawn then heads for the dead zone, and is greeted by The Disciple, heaven' smost deadly warrior. Spawn has no powers and is easily deafeated. He gets his face literally ripped off before his entire body is torn to shreds. is remains are taken down to hell by some lowly deamons, but they forgot his heart. It was picked up by the mysterious mand of miracles. He uses spawn's heart to conjur Christopher, a young boy who is looking for his mother. MoM takes Christopher to a place the child calls "sanctity", where his mother is waiting for him at his home. Christopher is distracted by one of MoM's illusions. The child it to choose between toys taht are dangled infront of his face, or to go home to is mother who is expecting him. He has no idea that his mother is contemplating suicide, while lying in a tub with a razor. The only way she can live is to be stopped by Christopher coming home. Somehow this all has something to do with the end of the world. Back in hell, Spawn is put back together by the lower demons and is restrained. He is then taken to Mammon and THAMUZ the god of torture, or someting like that. Spawn awakens and is pissed. Mammon says that he's going to use Thamuz's tortures to take his deepest secrets. Whatever they are. In the end, Thamuz conjures ALL of spawn's enemies, old and new. It seems he's in for one hell of a tussle.

[Born_2_Die]

I'm kinda worried about 151. Unless all of his enimies (especialy Tiffany) explain what they're doing there and show at least a couple of covers of them torturing Spawn, i'm gonna be very disappointed.

[Andre']

I still can't believe that some believe that this was an example of good writing. maybe it just because I had just finished reading Alan Moore's Promethea, but haven't any of you read Sandman, Kabuki, Powers, or if those are too unusual (not superhero, lets compare apples to apples) how about The Ultimates, Bendis' run on Daredevil, or any of the Inifinite Crisis stuff DC is putting out. Rucka has done a great job on WonderWoman and Superman, adn the IC mini-series were good. Spawn #150 had forced scenes like Spawn going "I own these alleys. I'm going to go to the Dead Zone and fight whoever is there even though I have no power there adn do it for no good reason other than I need to force the next scene that has me in hell. Oh yeah, welcome to the bug house! The bugs made me do it, eventhough I am technically no longer a burnt freak of a hellspawn but a resurrected human thanks to Cog who is able to turn into a superhero thanks to Nyx grafting the symbiote back to me." Contrived scenes subvert the characters and the flow is choppy. Spawn #150 may signal the death knell for this comic, and I am a completist and have every comic TMP has produced.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I'm kinda worried about 151. Unless all of his enimies (especialy Tiffany) explain what they're doing there and show at least a couple of covers of them torturing Spawn, i'm gonna be very disappointed.

they're not really his enemies, they are manifestations.

[curselet]

i just thought of something.in the part where that lake turns to blood theres that guy that says "and the third angel spilled his vile into the water and it turned to blood, or something like that. spawns already met two of the angels and they were angela and tiffany.and i think that this new angel coming up in 154 or something is the third angel responsible for turning the lake to blood

[A lucky punk]

i just thought of something.in the part where that lake turns to blood theres that guy that says "and the third angel spilled his vile into the water and it turned to blood, or something like that. spawns already met two of the angels and they were angela and tiffany.and i think that this new angel coming up in 154 or something is the third angel responsible for turning the lake to blood

good observation. I think it was the mississippi river though, not a lake. But good thought nonetheless.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

i just thought of something.in the part where that lake turns to blood theres that guy that says "and the third angel spilled his vile into the water and it turned to blood, or something like that. spawns already met two of the angels and they were angela and tiffany.and i think that this new angel coming up in 154 or something is the third angel responsible for turning the lake to blood

I'm taking it as being Lucifer, Michael and Mammon. The third being Mammon. Lucifer led the rebel angels, Michael led the loyal angels and Mammon led the neutral angels.

[TrAvisTy.]

YES!! I FINALLY GOT IT!!!
okay. loved it. i didnt see much problem with the dialouge (except for the sam and twitch part). the art was so-so. i think Tan can do ALOT better and judging by the pencils for 151 we can all expect better things to come.
3 things wrong with the Sam and Twitch part:
x very bad writing
x very, very bad art. looked like ****.
x when did they become a *** couple? i know im missin a few issues but i dont remember them commin out of the closet.
one fifty one looks magnificant.
still curious about the orignial capullo cover

[Brandon B]

What if Christopher was the missing God, and his mother was Earth/Greenworld? Didn't Greenworld mention to Spawn in one issue that they would stop the war between Heaven and Hell by destroying all humans so that they would have nothing to fight over? Maybe Christopher's mother's impending suicide is symbolic of Greenworld wiping out humans. The Man of Miracles could be trying to help God return. I dunno, I just got this idea from a thread a while back stating a theory about Spawn possibly being God. I didn't really think that Spawn could be God but maybe this theory could kind of prove that one semi correct?

That was my theory. But after I went back and rethought the theory through, alas it couldn't work. Though it would be kind of interesting that if once all the story is done with (the end of the Spawn comic whenever that will be) if Al actually becomes the new God if God is indeed dead as we are lead to believe in issue 149. That would be a dramatic turn of event's wouldn't ya say?

[spawn5061]

yea, i noticed that. i liked the other one to. when did they change that?

[BJC the GHOST]

Okay. After two and a half years, I grabbed s copy of Spawn 150 (if anyone cares, i got the sketch cover, as I deemed it to be the most interesting - I was not at all feeling Todd's over-colored necro green special effects crotch grabbing cover.). I'd have to say, it's a hell of a step in the right direction.

Angel's prologue - some of his best artwork in Spawn, but ultimately reminded me of why I hadn't been buying Spawn since 2003. Glad it was short.

SOILERS...I MEAN, SPOILERS

Phillip Tan - How people can say that Angel's art was better and that Tan's artwork was bad is beyond me. In this first issue, he's already lightyears ahead of where Angel was when he started on Spawn 101. At least we've got an artist now who can draw proper proportions and layouts that aren't confusing abstract drawings. Spawn's costume was particularly awesome - I love the texture of it, and how it seems to be becoming more armor-like. I'm sure Todd likes this too because he absolutely can't seem to get far enough away from anything even resembling a superhero classification as far as Spawn's concerned (hasn't done him much good lately, though). Tony Daniel's art was always a pale imitation of Capullo's, which I'm sure he was in some part instructed to be, anyway...so this is quite an unfair comparison in the eyes of anyone who's been following Spawn from early on. It's going to be different from Todd's or Greg's or (thankfully) Angel's - that's what i like about it. I'm sick of everyone who comes on Spawn trying to copy Todd or Greg. Time for something new.

The writing - Yeah, rough at times, but so's everyone's first issue on a book as a writer. I STILL have more hope for David Hine than I had for Brian Holguin, who basically spun us in circles since Spawn 100. At LEAST there's a direction to this story, and just because that direction wasn't laid out neatly in a very deliberate fashion in a few conveniently placed captions doesn't mean it's not there. You're all big boys and girls, read between the fricking lines and stop expecting everything to be explained to you upfront. It seemed quite obvious to me right away that the insects and worms that Spawn had absorbed were influencing his actions, and that's why he entered the Dead Zone in the first place. That alone is very interesting to me, because it seemed like someone wanted him to be there just then, in that way. As Jon commented, the question now would be who, and why?

If all that were explained within this issue, there'd be no reason to keep reading, now would there?

Sam and Twitch - I'm not a big fan of these guys in Spawn, because Todd always takes every opportunity when they appear to make them the stars of the book and push Spawn into a corner somewhere. But at least they have a small part. While I'm on the subject, Jeezus christ - you kids have never had a friend come over for some dinner before? God, some of you are such homophobes it's pathetic.

The blood in the river - the plot definitely thickens.

Man of Miracles - I hope he's more interesting than he looks. He looks like he took a wrong turn on the way to Fullmetal Alchemist or something, and wound up on Spawn.

Billy Kincaid - For those who actually give a crap about continuity (I do), Spawn completely vaporized Kincaid from existence in Hellspawn #12, when he brought Hell to earth. That bothered me about this particular appearance, because it's obvious that no one told that to David Hine. Might be worthwhile to at least come up with some sort of semi-plausable explanation as to how Kincaid came back after being "irreversably" destroyed.

Mammon - I want to see him in demonic form again. C'mon, McFarlane, you've already got fifty zillion monsters and freaks back in your comic again, one more isn't gonna kill you. A guy in a suit ain't scary. Deal with it.

Thamz - I expect a HUGE battle to go down between Spawn and this guy once he somehow gets his power back. Don't disappoint me.

The inquisitors - is it THAT hard for everyone to understand that at least most of these characters shown AREN'T the real versions of them? I mean, come ON...Malebolgia is in there, for christ's sake. How much more obvious can it be? Tiffany is in there, and she's a fricking angel! What would she be doing in hell? Clown and Violator are both shown at the same time! Do we really need a damn diagram for the slow kids? Incidentally, I thought it was really awesome to see all the Phlebiac brothers together in the same place at the same time. Something done with that could be really cool, if Hine so wanted.

Not the best Spawn issue, but one of the most hopeful in years. I hope good things happen from here on, because there's fertile ground for it. I'll stick around a while longer. Spawn just won a fan back.

much love

[misfit84j]

I've been a Spawn fan since 1992.

And I'd still be a Spawn fan even if Spawn points at me from inside the comic book and says "you suck, Mark(misfit84j)".

:)

[TrAvisTy.]

Sam and Twitch - I'm not a big fan of these guys in Spawn, because Todd always takes every opportunity when they appear to make them the stars of the book and push Spawn into a corner somewhere. But at least they have a small part. While I'm on the subject, Jeezus christ - you kids have never had a friend come over for some dinner before? God, some of you are such homophobes it's pathetic.


i've had friends come over for dinner but not one of em has every said some g@y sxxt like "now think about your poor abused arteries" or talk to themselves in a homosexual way while cooking or try and snatch the remote from me becuase he doesnt want me to miss the culinary experience.




Man of Miracles - I hope he's more interesting than he looks. He looks like he took a wrong turn on the way to Fullmetal Alchemist or something, and wound up on Spawn.


truth to that.

Billy Kincaid - For those who actually give a crap about continuity (I do), Spawn completely vaporized Kincaid from existence in Hellspawn #12, when he brought Hell to earth. That bothered me about this particular appearance, because it's obvious that no one told that to David Hine. Might be worthwhile to at least come up with some sort of semi-plausable explanation as to how Kincaid came back after being "irreversably" destroyed.


what i gather is Kincaid is just a test for Christopher much like Spawn had several test. hes not actually there. the question is why's he being tested?

Thamz - I expect a HUGE battle to go down between Spawn and this guy once he somehow gets his power back. Don't disappoint me.


if i get all hyped up over a huge fight between Spawn and Thamuz and tan/hine let me down, i might just hafta let the book down.

[TrAvisTy.]

yeah. i change my original comment. i wouldnt be able to stop buying it either.:)

[spawn5061]

i think the billy kincaid thing is much like the inquisitors that Thamuz brought up. and if anyone cares, i got greg's cover today, yea.

[magusraven]

A Spawn/Thamuz fight would be cool however, the fight I really wanna see is Spawn and Mammon. And by "fight" I mean Spawn mopping the floor with Mammon.

Also Tan was extremely impressive in this issue.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

actually the Billy Kincaid things comes out of the fact that Hellspawn isn't actually related to the main book.

the Inquisitors aren't really Spawn's dead rogues gallery. That much is made obvious since two warriors from heaven are there. Tiffany never actually died and The Redeemer (Phil Timper) also didn't die. And if Tiff did die she'd be negated from existence.

[Sarcophilus Satanicus 1.2]

I got the Greg Capullo cover.
Tan's art is amazing! The style, the details! Although he has to work on his Sam & twitch, cuz they looked strange, to say the least.
Great colors too! I really like the dark tone the whole comic has.
It was quit a confusing issue.... (SPOILER!!)
Who was that kid? Who is the Man of Miracles? How come Billy Kincaid was back?

Really liked some of the last art Angel Medina did on this issue (although he still REALLY can't draw Wanda at all).
And off course the sneak peek of #151! I think (and hope) that Spawn get's his deformed / burned / zombie appearance back (look at the last pic of the sneak peek).

[BJC the GHOST]

I counted 22 pages in that sneak peek of #151...which means it seems to be not really so much a "sneak peak," as it is THE ENTIRE ISSUE! That seems a bit much...

muchlove

[rpgguy_1o1]

yeah i felt the same way, didnt even bother looking at them.
im surprised the spoiler-nazis here didnt start an online petition against the last page of i.150

[A lucky punk]

At least we've got an artist now who can draw proper proportions and layouts that aren't confusing abstract drawings.

I'll give you the confusing layouts, but I think he probably could draw "proper" proportions if he wanted to. He just didn't want to.

[BJC the GHOST]

And his artwork looked terrible as a result. Cause and effect.

Bet he won't be doing that on Spider-Man, once Quesada starts sending back his contortionist drawings and telling him to re-draw them right.

[A lucky punk]

And his artwork looked terrible as a result

I guess this is why we have opinions.

[R1c0!]

i won't complain about the price i live in holland and i had to pay €9.00 for capullo's sketch cover and €5,30 for jim lee's cover...but i loved angelo medina's style.:( i really did,i'm gonna fuc*** miss him a lot..you're all rigth tan's art is better(more details and ****) but don't forget how spawn begon...mc farlane's cartoon style,capullo's,keith's,medina's
http://www.comicoo.com/spawn/Spawn100/images/spawn%20-%20100_01(capullo).jpg
http://www.disobey.com/horror/comics_and_magazines/spawn_and_related/downloads/spawn40.jpg
http://www.spawn.com/toys/spawn/series27/spawni119int/images/series27_spawni119int_concept_01_dp.jpg
tan's spawn
http://www.spawn.com/news/images/spawn150_tan_photo_01_dp.jpg

[R1c0!]

i won't complain about the price i live in holland and i had to pay €9.00 for capullo's sketch cover and €5,30 for jim lee's cover...but i loved angelo medina's style.:( i really did,i'm gonna fuc*** miss him a lot..you're all rigth tan's art is better(more details and ****) but don't forget how spawn begon...mc farlane's cartoon style,capullo's,keith's,medina's
Alan Moore (#8), Neil Gaiman (#9), Dave Sim (#10), Frank Miller (#11) and Grant Morrison (#16-18)

[R1c0!]

sorry about that!!!

[Sarcophilus Satanicus 1.2]

i won't complain about the price i live in holland and i had to pay €9.00 for capullo's sketch cover and €5,30 for jim lee's cover...but i loved angelo medina's style.:( i really did,i'm gonna fuc*** miss him a lot..you're all rigth tan's art is better(more details and ****) but don't forget how spawn begon...mc farlane's cartoon style,capullo's,keith's,medina's
Alan Moore (#8), Neil Gaiman (#9), Dave Sim (#10), Frank Miller (#11) and Grant Morrison (#16-18)

You go to the wrong stores. I paid €4,50 for mine and that's because it's a double issue, normal issues cost €2,25. (bij de Atomik).

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And for the Sneak peek part: it's still a sneak peek IMO, I mean it was small, pencil and had no text, so you still couldn't figure out what it all was.

[R1c0!]

what sneak peak issue?....i bougth it at comicasa,enschede,netherlands.....capullo's sketch i mean with spawns face on it..
36914 SPAWN (1992) #150 Capullo Cover - 5,45
36915 SPAWN (1992) #150 Incentive McFarlane/Jim Lee Sketch Cover - 9,95
36911 SPAWN (1992) #150 Jim Lee Cover - 5,45
36912 SPAWN (1992) #150 McFarlane Cover - 5,45
36913 SPAWN (1992) #150 Philip Tan Cover - 5,45

[SpawnsAlleys]

Hey everybody, I'm new to these boards but I have been a Spawn fan since the first issue I ever read which was Spawn #10. I just read Spawn #150 yesterday and it was really awesome. The art and the story were really really good and I loved the prologue with the beautiful art showing everything that's happened to Spawn. All in all a great issue and an amazing turning point in the life of our hero Spawn that left me confused at times. In the story, I was wondering if Chris is the person who Spawn's dead body used to be. I remember way back that Spawn transformed himself human again and he turned into a white guy with blonde hair. Could this be the same guy but younger as Chris? It would be pretty interesting if it were :). All the covers are awesome, is the sketch cover pretty hard to find??? Todd's a genius and so are David Hine, Phillip Tan and everyone else involved with the making of this landmark issue. SPAWN ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I am a long-standing believer that the White Guy he turned into is the real Spawn and that Al Simmons' memories were put into Spawn in order to give him the ultimate mind-****

[Born_2_Die]

I didn't mind the preview of 151 too much.
It's hard to make out much anyways. Only way to spoil for yourself is too really focus.
There's no way it could ambush somone.

[bluejaysuperfan]

is christopher the boy wearing the cape?

[Dan Kane]

Yep.

[Andre']

I still can't believe that there are perople out there that thought this was good.

I was embarassed reading the "quality" writing.

[misfit84j]

We, er atleast I, liked it because it was a drastic change from what we've been getting for for too long. I'm expecting it to get bett as well.

[spawn5061]

amen bother

[bigun]

Well now it's on the top 50 bestseller list I'm glad I spent the extra dosh and got all 5 covers

[Rosalie]

To be honest, I was a bit lost as to what was going on. I think the Dead Zone thing was very stupid.

Everything got really confusing...I just hope that the comic doesn't go on another downfall like after Angela died.

And a new Angel character? I really hate when someone gets "replaced". I think one of the keys to doing a good comic book death where people don't get pissed off is to present another character soon afterwards to draw attention, but not as a replacement which this character appears to be.

Why kill Angela in the first place then...? If Todd really wanted an angel character, why didn't he kill off another major character?

Above all though, I'm worried about him loosing his heart. I don't want Spawn to go back to being a burn victim, I thought the human twist was excellent and it was finally good that he got something good.

Constant Tragedy in a long running comic book character is nothing but frustration, it's nice that he got something decent. I hope it isn't taken away from him.

[spawn5061]

angela isnt coming back because of the legal crap. she wasn't replaced, she's just not coming back, so they made another angel prtty cool so they'd have something

[Rosalie]

But in all the letters sections back around then, McFarlane said he killed her to show that nobody is safe or sacred, and wouldn't bring her back because he hates all the resurrections that are done in Marvel.

If it was legal issues, why did Cog reappear after she died?

[spawn5061]

because he was renamed cain. as in cain and able. Avatar of Chaos, could you help me here

[Rosalie]

He was still called Cog when he was there. It still has history under Cog's name, therefore it's the same character.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

He got renamed in the same story arc that he was last seen in. Cog, Medieval Spawn and Angela are all co-owned by Neil Gaiman. The result of the Cog and Medieval Spawn dispute was pretty much determined after Todd killed off Angela, at which time Cog vanished from the book.

[Rosalie]

That's ridiculous. You just reveal that he has a different "real" name, and there's no trouble then? Why didn't they do that for Angela?

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

That's ridiculous. You just reveal that he has a different "real" name, and there's no trouble then? Why didn't they do that for Angela?

I think you misunderstand.

Cog, Angela and Medieval Spawn cannot be used in any way unless Todd pays Gaiman an equal cut or Gaiman pays Todd an equal cut. As of right now, MS is dead, Angela is dead and Cog is locked up in his tower. Todd killed off Angela to stick it to Gaiman, and Gaiman ended up winning his suit against Todd and they now have equal ownership of these 3 characters.

[spawn5061]

thank you avatar

[Rosalie]

I think you misunderstand.

Cog, Angela and Medieval Spawn cannot be used in any way unless Todd pays Gaiman an equal cut or Gaiman pays Todd an equal cut. As of right now, MS is dead, Angela is dead and Cog is locked up in his tower. Todd killed off Angela to stick it to Gaiman, and Gaiman ended up winning his suit against Todd and they now have equal ownership of these 3 characters.

I don't think Todd would be such a **** to kill her off purely to "Stil it to Gaiman". Both Todd and Gaiman are two of my favourite comic writers, and it's a shame when people "Fall out", but legal battles like that happen all the time; very often, it's nothing much personal, it's just the only way to sort out who has rights to what.

Cog is locked up in his tower, but he can't remain that way forever. He's still instrumental to the storyline and he did indeed appear after the Gaiman lawsuit.

He's probably conserving his appearances, which is why he locked him up in the tower(Then again, that could be the plan all along; having Cog as an active bad guy might not have been a good idea, especially with Mammon around), but I doubt that it's the end of him.

[spawn5061]

continue to hope, i doubt it will happen

[Rosalie]

It kind of has to happen. You can't have him locked in the tower forever. It would be the greatest plothole ever.

[magusraven]

Cog is gonna stay in there forever. Now that there is a new voice of reason, Man of Miracles.

[Wolverazio]

It kind of has to happen. You can't have him locked in the tower forever. It would be the greatest plothole ever.

....

Do you read many comics?

[rpgguy_1o1]

I don't think Todd would be such a **** to kill her off purely to "Stil it to Gaiman". Both Todd and Gaiman are two of my favourite comic writers, and it's a shame when people "Fall out", but legal battles like that happen all the time; very often, it's nothing much personal, it's just the only way to sort out who has rights to what.


are you kidding? i bet todd also left a flaming bag of **** at neil gaimans door. he's still stickin it to Neil 50 issues later, by naming his new character "Man of Miracles", especially when the character is so incredibly lame.

[Rosalie]

I'm upset now :/

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Todd hates Neil, Neil hates Todd... get used to it because it probably will never change

[curselet]

angela wasnt that cool anyway

[Rosalie]

I don't think so on the hate account, this is from a year or two back -

UGO: Are you and Todd McFarlane going to freak everyone out and do a book together?

NG: I doubt it, but we are going to do a book for the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund. I'm going to create some characters that McFarlane Toys will be making.

http://www.ugo.com/channels/freestyle/features/neilgaiman/

[Wolverazio]

I don't think they hate each other, but I think there is some professional bitterness there.

Though I think it's on one end or the other, not necessarily both.

[Rosalie]

If I was either one, I'd call the other up and offer to do something together, personally. It would make the fans feel better about the whole thing.

[green_gooey]

I don't think so on the hate account, this is from a year or two back -



http://www.ugo.com/channels/freestyle/features/neilgaiman/
i think he's being sarcastic. Those two would never get back together. their prides and egos took too much damage.

[Rosalie]

It didn't sound spiteful though.

[spawn5061]

just shut up. angela and cog are not coming back, deal with it. i whished they'd come back too, but the only way that will happen is if money is no longer an issue.

[Rosalie]

Jesus, calm the **** down.

[misfit84j]

*sniff*

[Beachbum0887]

the cover of ISSUE 150
looks like that face in the background might be Cog............hmmmm i doubt he'll come back too, but i hope something ends this dead end of story arc of him locking himself away!
i hope hope hope!!

later:spawnorb:

[Beachbum0887]

sorry i meant the cover of 154*

later:spawnorb:

[Born_2_Die]

Cog is gonna stay in there forever. Now that there is a new voice of reason, Man of Miracles.
I long for the issue when Spawn no longer needs a mentor.

[A lucky punk]

sorry i meant the cover of 154*

that bigblackhairybird lookin' thing? I don't remember Cog ever looking like that.

[craspter]

it's great to see that the covers aren't some stand-alone pictures of spawn anymore, but have a connection to the story now. 151's cover is gonna be great!!!

[Thrall]

i got the greg capullo cover version...awesome cover art, awesome interior art...the characters disciple and thamus look awesome

this issue was just awesome

WELL worth the 5 dollars....

[Yankee Rose]

150 was just an average issue to me. I expected more to happen.

[Andre']

150 was exceptionally below average. I got all 5 covers out of loyality to Todd and love of Spawn and I felt really ripped off.

[life]

me too

[Turkey_Tuesday]

I didnt read the forum but im trying to get issue 150 but i cant find my stupid comic shop dosent order enough copys now i have to wait:(

[I am Legend]

If it was Spawns heart, why was the kid white?

[spawn5061]

i reread it last night, and i understood it better. it only took me like 6 times

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

If it was Spawns heart, why was the kid white?

if u remember waaaaay back, spawn turned into a blond, white male when he used his powers to try to turn back into non-crispy Al Simmons. I think it would be hilarious if all this time Spawn was really some dead white guy who was implanted with the memories of Al Simmons.

[titltn21]

if u remember waaaaay back, spawn turned into a blond, white male when he used his powers to try to turn back into non-crispy Al Simmons. I think it would be hilarious if all this time Spawn was really some dead white guy who was implanted with the memories of Al Simmons.

Rock On Dude! I love it.

[carlitos]

AWSOME AWSOME PICS EVERYBODY !!!!!!!!!

here are some finished and some not hehe

http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/1015/breakermedmindreaffisher1yf.jpg


http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/1576/breaker2ur.jpg

http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/5052/horsec0gd.jpg
colours in progres

and something i dont know if i will finish

http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/227/11lc.jpg

[misfit84j]

yes, very nice. yet very unnecessary for this thread.

[DragonVileHater]

if u remember waaaaay back, spawn turned into a blond, white male when he used his powers to try to turn back into non-crispy Al Simmons. I think it would be hilarious if all this time Spawn was really some dead white guy who was implanted with the memories of Al Simmons.

I think that's actually what it was, before Al got his body back...Remember? He found his actual body in the cemetary? It was established that that is what happened. Malebolgia put him in some white guy's body when he brought him back.

[SpawnSC]

I loved angela and hate she is gone but issue 154 seems to give hint to a new angel in town. I'm glad to see cog gone he annoyed me...

I think 150 is awesome and I want more, and finally Spawn has breath of fresh air because of the new team taking spawn into new areas :) I can not wait to read more and 151 should be out this week!

[misfit84j]

I'm still a little confused about the whole white guy thing.

So Al died and his soul is put into the Hellspawn's body . . . but is the white guy's soul in there too? Is it the white guy that is in the Hellspawn's body and is remembering al's life? Oy. This whole thing is ******ed.

[spawn5061]

i always thought it was hell toying with spawn making him into a white guy when he was black

[SpawnSC]

151 tomarrow ! can not wait

[rpgguy_1o1]

my check is being held until thursday !
****!

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I think that's actually what it was, before Al got his body back...Remember? He found his actual body in the cemetary? It was established that that is what happened. Malebolgia put him in some white guy's body when he brought him back.

Yes, the body of Al Simmons was sitting in the cemetary rotting away.
Yes, Al Simmons body has gone missing from the cemetary and appears to be inhabited at this time by Spawn.
No, Spawn's previous body was not that of a white guy. Spawn's body was made of necroplasm and given form. His sould was encased in it and powered by the necroplasm, which could be regenerated given an expenditure of his energy. That's how he was able to function without a heart, and without eating. All of his organs weren't even real. They were remanants of his soul's memories of what organs were.

so far it is only assumed that:

Spawn was truly Al Simmons in his previous life.
Spawn's memories are real and not implanted as a further means of control.
Spawn is currently in the reanimiated and restored body of Al Simmons.

There are signs pointing to the fact that Spawn might not really be Al Simmons. The fact that Al turned into a white guy when he first used his powers. The fact that Christopher came out of Al's heart and is the spitting younger image of that white guy. the fact that you never actually see what happens to Al's corpse and can only assume that his soul was returned to it and that's why it's missing from the cemetary. Al not being Al is something that Cog wouldn't have known.

[jamal91788]

Sorry....but can someone gimme an overview of what happens in this issue? I have yet to buy the issue but it's not until next month and I dont wanna wait to know what happens.