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TheRedOx
10-11-2006, 09:02 AM
wow, 15 hours and nobody added to this thread....the PS3 is cutting in on our action, huh?

I'll add to it then....Been playing lots of NHL '07 and Saint's Row. Just recently rented NBA Live '07 and it wasn't so good - very glitchy. Waiting for Lego Star Wars II from gameznflix now so the kids can play it this weekend when they come over, they loved the original on the Gamecube.

Jamesweighs
10-11-2006, 09:05 AM
I guess. Jay- Battlefield 2 got pretty tough for single player. It's not really team based like GRAW, you can hotswap to different members or different classes of soldiers on your side. But the missions are tough and tricky. Average rating for the single player portion is about a 7/10 or so.

I prefer GRAW, but I know how you feel about managing your teammates...
You can play the multiplayer missions offline by yourself as well. No team.
Man, you really have to get Live though, GRAW is fantastic with friends in co-op.

Jamesweighs
10-11-2006, 09:13 AM
Are you enjoying NHL07 still Ruutu?
I frickin' love it. It's very odd to play the 2K demo right afterwards. I am really addicted to the new controls. So smooth. So far, got about 13/26 acheivements, and working on a dynasty with the Wild. Not really messing with the GM stuff yet.

JaylisJayP
10-11-2006, 09:13 AM
I guess. Jay- Battlefield 2 got pretty tough for single player. It's not really team based like GRAW, you can hotswap to different members or different classes of soldiers on your side. But the missions are tough and tricky. Average rating for the single player portion is about a 7/10 or so.

I prefer GRAW, but I know how you feel about managing your teammates...
You can play the multiplayer missions offline by yourself as well. No team.
Man, you really have to get Live though, GRAW is fantastic with friends in co-op.

yeah, i know...i continue to be lazy. i just need to hook the damn thing up so i can at least get demos.

I'd like to pick up battlefield at some point, just because I am at heart a die-hard FPS fan. Probably wait until it can get it somewhere for under 20 bucks dlvd. Sounds like it's fun but hard. How long is the single-player campagin?

JaylisJayP
10-11-2006, 09:13 AM
Are you enjoying NHL07 still Ruutu?
I frickin' love it. It's very odd to play the 2K demo right afterwards. I am really addicted to the new controls. So smooth. So far, got about 13/26 acheivements, and working on a dynasty with the Wild. Not really messing with the GM stuff yet.

I agree, NHL07 has staying power. I'm still playing my first season. Can't beat the Stars. Damn you Modano.

Jamesweighs
10-11-2006, 09:14 AM
I never finished it to be honest.

ahahah. Nice Modano comment. I haven't played them yet. Still early in my season. It's a lot of games.

PrimeBane
10-11-2006, 10:06 AM
DAMMIT!

I got my wireless adapter last night... and then proceeded to fight with it until 1:30am. The bloody thing couldn't find my router at all. I'm hoping it's because I have it set for WPA2 security. Considering the router (Linksys WRT54GS) is only about 14 feet away and through one floor) I don't see why it couldn't find it... especially since I could pick up the neighbors routers.

SpawnSC
10-11-2006, 10:16 AM
DAMMIT!

I got my wireless adapter last night... and then proceeded to fight with it until 1:30am. The bloody thing couldn't find my router at all. I'm hoping it's because I have it set for WPA2 security. Considering the router (Linksys WRT54GS) is only about 14 feet away and through one floor) I don't see why it couldn't find it... especially since I could pick up the neighbors routers.

Try opening it up to global and see if that works, and if so try changing around security settings :)


PS: if you throw it away mail it to me lol

The Isomotion31
10-11-2006, 10:34 AM
So my team loses the Superbowl and now I am fighting for a Wildcard spot. 7-5 baby! hahaha. Made some peronnel changes. Added Mark Clayton from Baltimore and traded away Demps and a second round pick for Roy Williams from the Cowboys. I acquired Antrel Rolle and Marcus Trufant from free agency in the past off-season. Common elusive ring. LOL.

Funny before I was not too fond of it, then it grew on me...NOW? I LOVE MADDEN ON THE 360. haha

Jamesweighs
10-11-2006, 10:39 AM
I just won the Superbowl in my first SS season with the Steelers. Had a pretty good game, about 85 yrds rushing. But damn, did Ward have the game of his life.

I was kinda bummed unlocking the SS season acheivements. Not that I am a gamescore wh0re, but I didn't realize that you have to be a SS in all those postions to get them. I thought me playing defense would count. Nope.

DarthPredamorph
10-11-2006, 11:06 AM
Any of you played the "Need for Speed: Carbon" demo? How did you like it?

I personally can't wait for this game. The drifting is a bit awkward though.


Anyway, will you be able to fully customize your car like in the other games? It wouldn't let you do anything but change certain aspects in the demo. I wanted to change colors and all that mess.

JaylisJayP
10-11-2006, 11:16 AM
i still need to check out NFS Most Wanted when it comes down some more in price.

JaylisJayP
10-11-2006, 11:25 AM
Hmmm....lots of games I'm on the fence with.

Rainbox Six - I like shooters, but how much slower-paced are these rainbox six games.
Star Trek - Is this a strategy game? An action game? A "star-control" type game?
Sonic - Graphics could be very sharp (albeit cartoonish), haven't played the demo

I'm sure I'll end up getting one of these, even with the 4 other titles I've already paid for that come out in the next month, since I'll be dropping my $5 reserve on Crackdown since it was delayed.

I'm so impatient. I hope OXM has at least 1 of these to demo next issue.

Jamesweighs
10-11-2006, 11:40 AM
OXM will have the Rainbow Six demo. I think that game will be incredible.

I didn't like the sonic demo too much, the camera has issues, which hopefully, they'll fix. You can move it, but really really sloooooow.

Don't know anything about Star Trek yet.

TheRedOx
10-11-2006, 11:53 AM
Are you enjoying NHL07 still Ruutu?
I frickin' love it. It's very odd to play the 2K demo right afterwards. I am really addicted to the new controls. So smooth. So far, got about 13/26 acheivements, and working on a dynasty with the Wild. Not really messing with the GM stuff yet.

Yeah, I still love it. I'm really kind of waiting around for an offline roster update though. The Blackhawks are pretty off.....missing Boucher, Salmelainen, Hamilton, Arkhipov, Kukkonen, Low, and a couple others. I have to say that I don't like the new controls though - it's way too hard for me to score even with 'auto-aim' on. Actually, that's my only complaint with the new 'control stick' - I just can't seem to get more than one or two goals a game. I prefer the classic controls, makes for a little more realistic scoring.
New NFS:Carbon demo is awesome, but the FIFA '07 demo was just incredible!!!...a whole new feel to the ball physics - I really can't wait for this one.

The Isomotion31
10-11-2006, 12:17 PM
Any of you played the "Need for Speed: Carbon" demo? How did you like it?

I personally can't wait for this game. The drifting is a bit awkward though.


Anyway, will you be able to fully customize your car like in the other games? It wouldn't let you do anything but change certain aspects in the demo. I wanted to change colors and all that mess.

A must get for me....Especially since Forza2 has been pushed back.

kelso
10-11-2006, 12:29 PM
Anyone get Dig Dug?

Jamesweighs
10-11-2006, 12:30 PM
Oh hell yeah I'm getting it tonight after work. Loved that game.

Hey Ruutu- did you d/l the making of fifa trailer from the bringing it home section? Even though I really don't play these games much, it's awesome to see all the work that went into this as far as physics and animations. They palyers heads and eyes track the ball now. And they used that new tracking technology- the foot meets the ball at any position. They even included it the hockey game with the goalie glove. No more "magnetic" animations of having the ball or puck jump to the object. Very cool.


Iso; I am hooked on Test Drive. Never thought I like it as much, but it's really fun.

Chugga
10-11-2006, 12:49 PM
I really wanted to pick up Test Drive but I've got so many games to beat and not alot of time. I mean Marvel Ultimate Alliance is going to lead me right into Gears of War which will lead me right into Call of Duty which will lead me right into the cluster**** that is PS3/Wii (mainly Zelda).

SpawnSC
10-11-2006, 01:09 PM
how do you join the spawn.com community board on mygamecard.net?

TheRedOx
10-11-2006, 01:15 PM
how do you join the spawn.com community board on mygamecard.net?

I'll add you now if you want.....I made it so you have to go through me to do it ;)

SpawnSC
10-11-2006, 01:20 PM
oh add me :D

TheRedOx
10-11-2006, 01:24 PM
oh add me :D

You're in!
I used to do a weekly one here on my own but MGC finally gave the ability to do a custom leaderboard so just go ahead and bookmark it. It updates every 10 minutes and it's a good way to find some fellow 'Spawnies' to game with and add to your friends list. I still need to work on a spreadsheet that indicates what gamertag is registered to which boardname, hopefully I can get that done by next week.

SpawnSC
10-11-2006, 01:24 PM
thanks!

lionking
10-11-2006, 03:47 PM
anyone have the new madden,poker , or nba games for sale or trade?plmk

Silent_Samurai
10-11-2006, 04:20 PM
Anyone get Dig Dug?

I downloaded the trial last night. But I wasn't too terribly impressed. Some of the same control problems as Pac Man had. Won't turn when you want it to. So, I'm glad I just got the trial version.

DarthPredamorph
10-11-2006, 05:09 PM
A must get for me....Especially since Forza2 has been pushed back.
Indeed. Forza 2 will be the next racing game I buy. After that, it's anyone's guess. I don't play racing games much, but when I do...I'm kind of picky about it. :p

JaylisJayP
10-11-2006, 06:56 PM
Question...can I hook up a cable modem line to my XBOX 360 and get online to get demos if I'm not an XBOX Live subscriber? Or is that part of the package.

Silent_Samurai
10-11-2006, 07:42 PM
yeah, because everyone has a silver membership

and why you don't have Live is beyond me.

oaktown2000
10-11-2006, 07:57 PM
and why you don't have Live is beyond me.


+1

JaylisJayP
10-11-2006, 08:30 PM
yeah, because everyone has a silver membership

and why you don't have Live is beyond me.

because i'm a ******. But hopefully sometime in the next month I'll remedy this.

CJF28
10-11-2006, 09:24 PM
i still need to check out NFS Most Wanted when it comes down some more in price.


let me know how cheap you need it to be. its just sitting here, getting dusty

cory

Silent_Samurai
10-11-2006, 11:10 PM
because i'm a ******. But hopefully sometime in the next month I'll remedy this.

well at least your honest, and that's the first step on the road to recovery.

Jamesweighs
10-12-2006, 05:47 AM
because i'm a ******. But hopefully sometime in the next month I'll remedy this.

Hey, don't fret, I just got live 2 months ago. After having my 360 about 6 months...
And I almost gave up on live too. You really gotta find good people to play with, which I feared was impossible at first, but it's not the case.

There are a lot of punk kids, but a lot of really nice mature folks too. I try to stick with a bit older crowd.

TheRedOx
10-12-2006, 07:54 AM
Hey, don't fret, I just got live 2 months ago. After having my 360 about 6 months...
And I almost gave up on live too. You really gotta find good people to play with, which I feared was impossible at first, but it's not the case.

There are a lot of punk kids, but a lot of really nice mature folks too. I try to stick with a bit older crowd.

I wouldn't have gotten it at all either if I didn't take advantage of BestBuy's ad misprint at $19.99 about 6 months ago.There's no way I would have payed the full $60 or $70 that it actually costs. I just don't play online that much - never had any really bad experiences - it's just that I play mainly sports games and I like to play dynasty modes and season modes and I have to play it "my way".

Jamesweighs
10-12-2006, 08:08 AM
I have found a co-worker's hubby, his brother, and their friends to play with online. All in their mid to late 30s, and oddly enough, we all live in the area. And at least two of them are on almost every night. Like clockwork, we play GRAW and then race and occasionally box. It's a lot of fun.
We're all chomping at the bit for the multiplayer portions of Splinter Cell, Rainbow, Gears, GTR, Tiger Woods, and Forza 2. Too many good games coming... going to be a spendy few months.

I totally agree with you about the sports games. For some reason I prefer to play those single player. I do have some other friends to paly football with, but I like the dynasty modes better. Plus, it can be tough to finish a game, way too many people quit out when you play them.

Ruutu, you should kick my butt at hockey some time...

The Isomotion31
10-12-2006, 10:22 AM
^^I can't take this so I have to risk myself looking stupid. Is that YOUR car in your avatar?

Jamesweighs
10-12-2006, 10:40 AM
Of course! I mean... I WISH!

No, it's from PGR- photo mode. Shiny. I love that. In some of the settings, the cars look so frickin' real.
I am such a racing game fanatic, still playing this and Forza a lot, so it's fitting for right now.

I drive a mazda 6. Not exactly exotic...:p

pyrrhonist
10-12-2006, 10:49 AM
Speaking of PGR....

I was curious as to how one gets the Achievement for watching GothamTV? I watched the 10 races, but I don't see an option to save one of them. I have saved a race of my own since watching the 10 races, though, but I didn't get credit. What did I do wrong?

Jamesweighs
10-12-2006, 10:52 AM
You have to watch them all from the start, not picked up in the middle.
Save one of your own, and try watching it. At least, that's what folks on the boards are recommending.

I thought this was screwy too, I don't believe I watched the full 10 start to finish, but I got it after logging on one day.

Try turning it off then back on. I didn't get it until after going back in.

The Isomotion31
10-12-2006, 11:23 AM
nice. I was going to say. The pic looked too real. LOL. I was beginning to think that it was yours. So I am guessing you are going to get Carbon for sure?

Jamesweighs
10-12-2006, 11:40 AM
I don't know. They really tweaked the controls it seems. I'm not huge on street racing games per se (love circuit racers), I did enjoy NFS:MW, but I might pass on this one. Definitely rent it to see how it is.

pyrrhonist
10-12-2006, 01:26 PM
You have to watch them all from the start, not picked up in the middle.
Save one of your own, and try watching it. At least, that's what folks on the boards are recommending.

I could swear the ones I watched were all from the start, but I could be wrong. I'll probably give it a shot again this weekend, although I must admit, I haven't played PGR3 much lately. It's sad, too, because I played the Hell out of the original PGR when the Xbox launched.

TheRedOx
10-12-2006, 01:30 PM
I don't know. They really tweaked the controls it seems. I'm not huge on street racing games per se (love circuit racers), I did enjoy NFS:MW, but I might pass on this one. Definitely rent it to see how it is.

I liked it (judging from the demo). It does seem to have a little bit of that 'sense of speed' removed but the canyon race that you unlock by winning the other two is awesome - that was a blast!! I like the sculpting of the parts and panels as well, pretty cool. A rental for sure, still waiting for an off-roader though, what's the story on Colin McRae or another Rallisport game?

Jamesweighs
10-12-2006, 02:13 PM
Colin McRae Dirt will be out spring/summer 07. And Sega Rally will be out sometime in 07.

Can't wait. Picked up CM04 (the only one compatible) for 6 bucks the other day. Man, am I spoiled by the 360 graphics though, some games are rough to go back to.

MPCanes
10-12-2006, 04:04 PM
I'm digging the FIFA 07 and Tiger 07 demo's - I finally got on X-box live, heh.

Anyone have any recommendations between NHL 2k7 vs 07 - 07 seems way more fun, 2k7 feels almost the same as freaking 2k for dreamcast, and doesn't look all that much better to boot, but both demos are pretty limiting.

Can't wait for the R6 Vegas Demo in a week and a half.

Oiler_Fan
10-12-2006, 04:39 PM
I went with NHL '07 this year. The analog control was the biggest selling point for me. The game is 100% better because of it.

I've always bought both NHL games every year. This is the first year I only bought one and it was NHL '07.

2K7 just didn't have enough improvements for me to want to spend money it this year.

Oiler_Fan
10-12-2006, 04:42 PM
You have to watch them all from the start, not picked up in the middle.
Save one of your own, and try watching it. At least, that's what folks on the boards are recommending.

I thought this was screwy too, I don't believe I watched the full 10 start to finish, but I got it after logging on one day.

Try turning it off then back on. I didn't get it until after going back in.

Yeah, that's how I got mine. I got it after I went out and then back in.

DarthPredamorph
10-12-2006, 05:36 PM
Anyone have a "mint and complete" copy of Hitman: Blood Money for the 360 that they're willing to sell? I'm looking for something around $30 dlvd.

Let me know.

TheRedOx
10-12-2006, 07:21 PM
I went with NHL '07 this year. The analog control was the biggest selling point for me. The game is 100% better because of it.

I've always bought both NHL games every year. This is the first year I only bought one and it was NHL '07.

2K7 just didn't have enough improvements for me to want to spend money it this year.

Is 2k7 improved at all? The dumbing down of the goalies from the 360 port was very disappointing last year. It'll be in the mail for me tomorrow from gameznflix and I'm actually a little anxious to try it.
****on a sidenote, check out the gamerpic in my sig!!!!!! Finally NHL '07 gamerpics and themes on the marketplace!

pyrrhonist
10-12-2006, 08:35 PM
Is 2k7 improved at all?

I didn't get to play NHL2K6 for the 360 (I've only had my system for just about a 1 month), so I can't comment on it. I can say, though, that it's not better than NHL2K3---the best of the 2K series. The goalies have returned to better days, as they can save the day again, as they did during that installment. The graphics have been bumped up from the standard Xbox, but they're not as "next-gen" as NHL07. However, graphics aren't the only reason why I buy a game. The game is still deep, though. I have yet to really get into the franchise, though, as I've mostly played exhibitions. I still think the core gameplay of the 2K franchise is there.

EA did an admirable job at revamping their game (Finally), and I give them kudos for it. However, the hit-heavy defense, as well as the idiocy of players to go offside continually pissed me off. I think they've really got something going, and both teams should be on their 'A' games for '08. ;)

DaGoalie60
10-13-2006, 12:09 AM
Is 2k7 improved at all? The dumbing down of the goalies from the 360 port was very disappointing last year. It'll be in the mail for me tomorrow from gameznflix and I'm actually a little anxious to try it.
****on a sidenote, check out the gamerpic in my sig!!!!!! Finally NHL '07 gamerpics and themes on the marketplace!

I jumped all over the Stars logo and theme...GO STARS BABY :D

WitchKingOfAngmar
10-13-2006, 01:11 AM
Here's a quick question for anyone who has any idea...

What's with the different colored sides/vents on some of the systems? A good number of the units from the launch wave seemed to have a metalic grey color to the vents on the side and the hard drive. The controllers also had this same metallic color on the bottom.

Then, more of the later systems I've seen have just sort of a flat grey color to the vents/hard drive (and again, controller bottom). Is there a reason for this? Does the flat grey to metallic indicate what "wave" the system is from (ie. Launch systems to later productions) or what factory and what companies disc drive is in it? Or is it just a matter of random, no major reason change to the paint used?

absolutniu
10-13-2006, 07:37 AM
Did anyone get the Sonic demo from live? I thought it was ok but I was expecting more. Sonic used to be one of my favorite games for the old Sega system.

DarthPredamorph
10-13-2006, 07:39 AM
I hate how fast he turns when you're moving sideways. He just seems generally too hard to control. They need to fix that somehow. Also, the camera kind of sucks.

Jamesweighs
10-13-2006, 08:04 AM
Those were my two issues too. Too hard to get him to go where you want, and the camera pans waaaaaay too slow manually.

They got some time though, could fix these things fairly easily I'd bet.

absolutniu
10-13-2006, 09:00 AM
In the demo I kept sending him off the cliff because he would accelerate like crazy in the air and the camera hadn't rotated enough for me to know where the ground stopped.

Chugga
10-13-2006, 09:08 AM
Anyone else having huge internal struggles with the ridiculous day known only as "November 7th, 2006". As far as EBgames.com is concerned 4 huge games come out that day. While I wouldn't be suprised if the release dates get skewed a bit as it stands right now November 7th is quite possibly the greatest day or the worst day ever (depending on how fat your wallet is) for a Xbox360 fan.

Fear, Gears of War, Call of Duty3, and Fuzion Frenzy2. I see all of those games as must buys....even worse I probably won't be done with Marvel Ultimate Alliance yet either by time they all get released.

JaylisJayP
10-13-2006, 09:09 AM
Anyone else having huge internal struggles with the ridiculous day known only as "November 7th, 2006". As far as EBgames.com is concerned 4 huge games come out that day. While I wouldn't be suprised if the release dates get skewed a bit as it stands right now November 7th is quite possibly the greatest day or the worst day ever (depending on how fat your wallet is) for a Xbox360 fan.

Fear, Gears of War, Call of Duty3, and Fuzion Frenzy2. I see all of those games as must buys....even worse I probably won't be done with Marvel Ultimate Alliance yet either by time they all get released.

Game Informer or OXM (forget which one) has FEAR coming out Oct. 31. And everyone is saying Gears is Nov. 12.

I have Marvel, Gears, FEAR and COD3 reserved and paid off. Thinking about whether to do the same for RS Vegas and Star Trek: Legacy.

Jamesweighs
10-13-2006, 09:12 AM
I believe Gears is the 12th. With Rainbow Six too. don't konw about Fear.
I had no idea COD3 was that soon.

Man, between next week and these, going to be really expensive.

DarthPredamorph
10-13-2006, 09:22 AM
If all of these games come out before Christmas (F.E.A.R., Gears of War, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Need for Speed: Carbon, Call of Duty 3, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Phantasy Star Universe, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess) I'm gonna have a helluva time trying to get the money for all of them. >_>

Not to mention I still have to get Hitman: Blood Money, Ninety-Nine Nights, and LOTR: BFMEII. Plus, there might be another game I'll have to get too.

JaylisJayP
10-13-2006, 09:30 AM
Well after watching all the gameplay movies I can safely say Rainbow Six Vegas looks amazing, and I probably won't be getting it when it comes out.

I just don't have the patience for that type of shooter, at least not enough to spend 60 bucks on it. Maybe my mind will change after the demo.

Jamesweighs
10-13-2006, 09:38 AM
Really? I love the tactical stuff. Plus, it'll have a great create-a-character and you can map your own face on with the xbox live camera. Funny.

Way too many games coming out. I really like to finish one before moving on to the next, so I think my OCD is going to go into overload. LOL.

Thinking of trading in Madden soon. Dunno.

DarthPredamorph
10-13-2006, 09:43 AM
What's on the latest Xbox 360 demo disc? The one after the disc with the F.E.A.R. demo?

Also, aren't we supposed to get a Splinter Cell demo on Live here pretty soon, as well as a Gears of War demo?

Jamesweighs
10-13-2006, 09:48 AM
Gears of War demo was just a rumor, and got shot down by Cliffy.
Rainbow Six will be on the OXM one, should be out soon I think.

DarthPredamorph
10-13-2006, 10:02 AM
Damn...I won't be getting Gears of Wars until Christmas probably. >_>

The Isomotion31
10-13-2006, 10:29 AM
Fuzion Frenzy 2 is a must buy for me also. LOL....I am not so sure yet if I want to get Gears of War on release or not.

pyrrhonist
10-13-2006, 10:50 AM
I love the R6 series. It is not meant to be a run & gun game, but if one gets too bored, you can go nuts, if you'd like.

I'm looking forward to Fuzion Frenzy 2, as well. My wife got me the first one for Xmas of '01, and it made for a nice party game (for 4, at least). I'm hoping the 2nd one will be just as fun.

JaylisJayP
10-13-2006, 11:02 AM
What is Fuzion Frenzy?

The Isomotion31
10-13-2006, 11:13 AM
What is Fuzion Frenzy?

A non-stop party game with an edge, Fuzion Frenzy transcends tradition with real-time multiplayer action, innovative game concepts, futuristic themes and characters, dynamic 3D environments, and next generation graphics and sounds. Fuzion Frenzy is an urban street sport competition loaded with head-to-head, fast-paced mini-games and a wide variety of gameplay offering something for everyone. Fuzion Frenzy, the party-style game play you love, in an environment that transports you to the future, only on the Xbox.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=210009 :D

Especially fun when drunk and playing the games that get faster as time progresses. During rainy nights and in between Madden sessions. LOL.

Jamesweighs
10-13-2006, 11:33 AM
I saw the trailer and seriously said
W T F !?
Looks crazy. Very japanese.

DarthPredamorph
10-13-2006, 12:02 PM
Yeah...I'm not into Fuzion Frenzy too much. I played the first one. Don't have much of a desire for the second one.

Lord Magneto
10-13-2006, 12:35 PM
So question for you guys... I'm debating on what i should buy first.... a 360 or a HD TV?

I can buy the 360 now... or I can wait a month or two until i get my bonus and buy the tv and a 360....

my question is will i be screwing myself over if im not playing it on a HDtv?

Ive heard the text gets a little *** up on regular tvs since their not widescreen

Jamesweighs
10-13-2006, 01:02 PM
No no, just the text in Dead Rising.
It's fine on regular tvs. Looks great. But better on HD tvs.
Get the 360 now for sure.
The 360 has settings for both widescreen and regular. Standard 480 up to 1080i too, so you have options with it.

TheRedOx
10-13-2006, 01:03 PM
So question for you guys... I'm debating on what i should buy first.... a 360 or a HD TV?

I can buy the 360 now... or I can wait a month or two until i get my bonus and buy the tv and a 360....

my question is will i be screwing myself over if im not playing it on a HDtv?

Ive heard the text gets a little *** up on regular tvs since their not widescreen

I haven't played the 360 on a non-HDTV screen so I can't for sure, but I would actually try and wait until you get the new set if you can hold out that long. It might be neat to see the difference once you get the new HDTV but I would think you're not even getting a glimpse of the 360's power until you're gaming in HD. Have you played on an HDTV or seen any HD programming yet (at a friends house, etc...)? It's impossible to go back once you do....all my DVD's I have are just unwatchable now. It's such an amazing difference once you go HD.

Jamesweighs
10-13-2006, 01:09 PM
It is a huge difference. I have a std tv, but took it down to Madison on played on my folks 42 HD tv. Damn. Made it real hard to come back home. Hopefully, I'll be getting one soon.

gr8one2386
10-13-2006, 01:10 PM
If anything, playing the 360 on a regular tv will make playing it on a HDTV even better. So get the 360 now and pick up the HDTV whenever you get the money.

Lord Magneto
10-13-2006, 01:20 PM
I haven't played the 360 on a non-HDTV screen so I can't for sure, but I would actually try and wait until you get the new set if you can hold out that long. It might be neat to see the difference once you get the new HDTV but I would think you're not even getting a glimpse of the 360's power until you're gaming in HD. Have you played on an HDTV or seen any HD programming yet (at a friends house, etc...)? It's impossible to go back once you do....all my DVD's I have are just unwatchable now. It's such an amazing difference once you go HD.


Yea man 2 of my buddies both have HD sets...but they dont have 360's. I've played the 360 at walmart target etc on those samsung lcd tvs....pretty sweet.. but i'd love to buy it and hook it up on my buddies 47inch lcd tv.

I def want it to be hooked up with the HDMI cables to get the best picture... The Tv im going for is the westinghouse 42inch LCD tv... it displays 1080p and its about $1500 well its 1700 right now but im sure it will go on sale again...ive got a connection at a bestbuy who said he might hook me up with a discount.

DarthPredamorph
10-13-2006, 01:37 PM
PSU demo on the marketplace! :eek:

TheRedOx
10-13-2006, 01:53 PM
PSU demo on the marketplace! :eek:

Yeah, it's actually a 'beta-test' - very cool! They're limiting connections and it's only going to up for a little while, GOLD membership is required.
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/10/13/Beta-Phantasy-Star-Universe.aspx

Chugga
10-13-2006, 02:06 PM
So question for you guys... I'm debating on what i should buy first.... a 360 or a HD TV?

I can buy the 360 now... or I can wait a month or two until i get my bonus and buy the tv and a 360....

my question is will i be screwing myself over if im not playing it on a HDtv?

Ive heard the text gets a little *** up on regular tvs since their not widescreen

If you buy the TV set you don't actually get any enjoyment out of it until you get the 360 (unless you decide to buy HD programming). If you buy a 360 you get plenty of enjoyment out of it, leading up to the purchase of your HDTV.

Silent_Samurai
10-13-2006, 03:18 PM
Damn...I won't be getting Gears of Wars until Christmas probably. >_>

Dude that's just down right blasphemy. ... You need to get it on the 12th.

I have F.E.A.R. and Gears already reserved. I want Rainbow, because I know a lot of my friends will be playing that one too, but I'm kinda burnt out on the Rainbow franchise itself, well, I say burnt out, but really it's lack of interest with Gears of War and F.E.A.R. coming out. I got started on the xbox with Rainbow Six and that's the majority of what we always played. Then Letdown came out. So, I'm on the fence with this one ... I just know most of the guys I normally game with will have it, and sometimes they're a bit on the ..."well if you don't have it too bad for you side" ... I know they're getting Gears as well, so maybe they'll love that one.

TrebleX
10-13-2006, 04:28 PM
Just got the Phantasy Star Universe demo... major suckage so far...

Graphics are no better than the Dreamcast's... loads 10 times a minute (no idea why...) and the servers keep effing up.

JaylisJayP
10-13-2006, 06:09 PM
Dude that's just down right blasphemy. ... You need to get it on the 12th.

I have F.E.A.R. and Gears already reserved. I want Rainbow, because I know a lot of my friends will be playing that one too, but I'm kinda burnt out on the Rainbow franchise itself, well, I say burnt out, but really it's lack of interest with Gears of War and F.E.A.R. coming out. I got started on the xbox with Rainbow Six and that's the majority of what we always played. Then Letdown came out. So, I'm on the fence with this one ... I just know most of the guys I normally game with will have it, and sometimes they're a bit on the ..."well if you don't have it too bad for you side" ... I know they're getting Gears as well, so maybe they'll love that one.

I'm thinking with Rainbow I'll wait a few weeks. After Gears and FEAR and COD3 and Ultimate Alliance wear off a little, ebay will have Rainbow for 35-40 bucks. Most 360 games are used on ebay lately for like 40-45 bucks after only a week it seems.

JaylisJayP
10-13-2006, 07:02 PM
Anyone have Battlefield they'd be willing to sell fairly cheap?

MPCanes
10-13-2006, 08:24 PM
November is going to put a hurting on my wallet.

Gears of War
Rainbow Six
Superman Returns
Wii possibly
FEAR possibly

When is the HD-DVD add on?

This is brutal, I don't have this kind of money.

Silent_Samurai
10-13-2006, 10:26 PM
I'm thinking with Rainbow I'll wait a few weeks. After Gears and FEAR and COD3 and Ultimate Alliance wear off a little, ebay will have Rainbow for 35-40 bucks. Most 360 games are used on ebay lately for like 40-45 bucks after only a week it seems.

wait about a month or so and you can start getting them for around 20 and 30.

I love rainbow ... but I'm more hyped for Gears.

TrebleX
10-14-2006, 08:44 AM
Am I the only one not really hyped for Gears of War? It looks okay... I just fail to see the gameplay variety that would keep me interested. All I've seen was duck, cover, shoot...

I may be wrong though... but I think I'll wait for some reviews... maybe rent first.

JaylisJayP
10-14-2006, 11:31 AM
Finally got onto live, and with a free 1-month gold membership to boot. I don't know if I'll stay with the gold, though, i find it useful for trying out demos mostly. I can now safely say I wont' be buying Sonic, Hitman or Splinter Cell. I'm saving money already.

oaktown2000
10-14-2006, 02:31 PM
Anyone have Battlefield they'd be willing to sell fairly cheap?

I do....I never play it. And I live in Stuart...I could, literally, throw it to you :p $15 sound good?

oaktown2000
10-14-2006, 02:36 PM
Finally got onto live, and with a free 1-month gold membership to boot. I don't know if I'll stay with the gold, though, i find it useful for trying out demos mostly. I can now safely say I wont' be buying Sonic, Hitman or Splinter Cell. I'm saving money already.


Yeah...it's great to be able to get the demos. Theres been a lot of games that I thought I would buy......played the demo...then decided I didn't want the game.

Chugga
10-14-2006, 02:40 PM
Thats exactly why I don't download demo's....I'm afraid it will make me hate the game....even though if I bought the full version I wouldn't. Take for instance...full auto, need the full game to really appreciate how amazing it is. Same with burnout...same with basically all racing games I guess. They give you only so many modes and so many tracks and things seem boring. Fighting games too.....I actually didn't buy the outfit because of it's less then amazing demo...but the full game is actually cool as hell in co-op.

JaylisJayP
10-14-2006, 02:49 PM
I do....I never play it. And I live in Stuart...I could, literally, throw it to you :p $15 sound good?

hell yeah, PM sent. Thank you.

JaylisJayP
10-14-2006, 02:50 PM
Thats exactly why I don't download demo's....I'm afraid it will make me hate the game....even though if I bought the full version I wouldn't. Take for instance...full auto, need the full game to really appreciate how amazing it is. Same with burnout...same with basically all racing games I guess. They give you only so many modes and so many tracks and things seem boring. Fighting games too.....I actually didn't buy the outfit because of it's less then amazing demo...but the full game is actually cool as hell in co-op.


yeah i understand this side of it, too. i guess the demo is just to be considered as a whole part of the equation when the full version comes out...including reviews and word of mouth, as well.

DarthPredamorph
10-14-2006, 03:02 PM
Yeah, it's actually a 'beta-test' - very cool! They're limiting connections and it's only going to up for a little while, GOLD membership is required.
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/10/13/Beta-Phantasy-Star-Universe.aspx
Looks like I'll be deleting it next Wednesday then. >_>

WitchKingOfAngmar
10-14-2006, 03:03 PM
Anyone else having huge internal struggles with the ridiculous day known only as "November 7th, 2006". As far as EBgames.com is concerned 4 huge games come out that day. While I wouldn't be suprised if the release dates get skewed a bit as it stands right now November 7th is quite possibly the greatest day or the worst day ever (depending on how fat your wallet is) for a Xbox360 fan.

Fear, Gears of War, Call of Duty3, and Fuzion Frenzy2. I see all of those games as must buys....even worse I probably won't be done with Marvel Ultimate Alliance yet either by time they all get released.


November 8th is the actual release date for most of that stuff, since EB/GameStop still list the ship date on their stuff, rather than the day it comes in.

As far as the "Emergence Day" confusion, Epic has stated that it is OFFICIALLY November 12th. Stores will get the game in on November 8th, but the 12th is the day that ALL stores (Best Buys, and everything else under the sun) will have it and be selling it. So far they haven't enforced a "street date" of the 12th, so if any stores get it in before then, they should be able/allowed to sell them right away.

Also according to EB....the 8th is when the HD-DVD player comes out. So, that's GOW(again, assuming Epic doesn't enforce a street date), FEAR, the HD-DVD player, Call of Duty 3, and a few others that I'm waiting for....not good for the wallet.

DarthPredamorph
10-14-2006, 03:04 PM
Finally got onto live, and with a free 1-month gold membership to boot. I don't know if I'll stay with the gold, though, i find it useful for trying out demos mostly. I can now safely say I wont' be buying Sonic, Hitman or Splinter Cell. I'm saving money already.
Have you played the Splinter Cell demo? :eek:

Moe Szyslak
10-14-2006, 03:12 PM
Will the HD-DVD player upconvert regular dvds to look better on my HD TV? I mean, I know they sell non HD-DVD players that do this, but will the 360's? If it will, I'll probably pick it up.

And DVD's will play at 720P, right? I know its not 1080P, but it sure beats 480P.

WitchKingOfAngmar
10-14-2006, 03:19 PM
Will the HD-DVD player upconvert regular dvds to look better on my HD TV? I mean, I know they sell non HD-DVD players that do this, but will the 360's? If it will, I'll probably pick it up.

And DVD's will play at 720P, right? I know its not 1080P, but it sure beats 480P.
Last I checked, it should still upconvert.

It does play at 720P, but MS is also making a system update that will allow 1080P display if your TV inputs support it through the appropriate cables.

Plus, it comes with a universal remote and a free copy of Peter Jackson's King Kong on HD-DVD.

JaylisJayP
10-14-2006, 03:26 PM
Have you played the Splinter Cell demo? :eek:

i have, and it's no doubt going to be a great game, it's just not for me.

edschmoe
10-14-2006, 05:45 PM
Finally got onto live, and with a free 1-month gold membership to boot. I don't know if I'll stay with the gold, though, i find it useful for trying out demos mostly. I can now safely say I wont' be buying Sonic, Hitman or Splinter Cell. I'm saving money already.
Gotta stick with the gold bro.... Once you find a group of people to play online with, it cant be beat. I have a couple of people I play Battlefield with and 6 hour marathons are the rule, not the exception. ( Once the wife is asleep of course :o ). Cant wait to get my damn box back

JaylisJayP
10-14-2006, 06:21 PM
Gotta stick with the gold bro.... Once you find a group of people to play online with, it cant be beat. I have a couple of people I play Battlefield with and 6 hour marathons are the rule, not the exception. ( Once the wife is asleep of course :o ). Cant wait to get my damn box back

really need to get battlefield....haven't heard back from oaktown yet.

owenstar
10-15-2006, 09:05 AM
Got the godfather friday...thanks dude!

chapuchi
10-15-2006, 09:35 AM
i thought the godfather was alright, nothing special. tbh i like CoD2 better than battlefield for online play...battlefield just sucks when it comes to singleplayer

JaylisJayP
10-15-2006, 10:21 AM
Got the godfather friday...thanks dude!

good to hear, enjoy man.

JaylisJayP
10-15-2006, 10:21 AM
i battlefield just sucks when it comes to singleplayer

how come?

Chugga
10-15-2006, 10:33 AM
Battlefield is designed to be a multiplayer game, thats why the PC version is so bad@$$. Hell I'd bet of the thousands of people that own battlefield maybe a couple dozen have actually played through the single player mode. Single player is just an afterthought for that game. Thats not to say it's terrible but once you go online one you can never go back to that joke they call single player.

Moe Szyslak
10-15-2006, 06:18 PM
Just started freezing like crazy. Got the 3 red lights a couple of times. And also lost picture. Hope the replacement process goes smooth for both of us..

Well, my 360 is supposed to be delivered to me tomorrow. So they did fix it quickly. The only problem is I wont be home to sign for it. So i'll probably have to make arrangements to pick it up. I used to work for UPS, so just the thought of my 360 being repeatedly thrown on and off the truck, makes me think that by the time I do get it, I'll be sending it right back.You get yours back yet???

JaylisJayP
10-15-2006, 06:25 PM
Just played my first Live match of anything....COD2. I got killed 15 times and had 6 kills for my team.

I suck.

Silent_Samurai
10-15-2006, 11:38 PM
that'll change the more you play. That and you'll have off nights as well. I remember the first night I played Rainbow Six 3 on live. I was kicking some serious cheese. The next night I sucked hardcore. .. it can all be relative.

The most fun will come when you play with people you know.

edschmoe
10-16-2006, 05:37 AM
Battlefield is designed to be a multiplayer game, thats why the PC version is so bad@$$. Hell I'd bet of the thousands of people that own battlefield maybe a couple dozen have actually played through the single player mode. Single player is just an afterthought for that game. Thats not to say it's terrible but once you go online one you can never go back to that joke they call single player.

agreed 100%

pyrrhonist
10-16-2006, 06:45 AM
In my quest to try out some games for nothing (By "buying" used at EB, then returning the game before 7 days passes), I finally got to put PD Zero to the test yesterday. It's really not as bad as everyone tells me. Sure, it's nowhere near as good as its predecessor on the N64 (Nor is it Halo), but it's not the complete crapfest I was led to believe. I don't think I'd buy it, but it's fun, at least.

JaylisJayP
10-16-2006, 09:04 AM
In my quest to try out some games for nothing (By "buying" used at EB, then returning the game before 7 days passes), I finally got to put PD Zero to the test yesterday. It's really not as bad as everyone tells me. Sure, it's nowhere near as good as its predecessor on the N64 (Nor is it Halo), but it's not the complete crapfest I was led to believe. I don't think I'd buy it, but it's fun, at least.

the graphics are good. I just couldn't stand how slow the character moves. That just absolutely killed it for me.

Poochiesdead
10-16-2006, 09:09 AM
I finally got Dead Rising this weekend, and now I see what everyone is talking about with the small text. Jebus!

pyrrhonist
10-16-2006, 10:49 AM
the graphics are good. I just couldn't stand how slow the character moves. That just absolutely killed it for me.

The lack of a jump button is a real pain, that's for sure. I don't mean to make it sound like GOTY material, but it's just not as bad as people have made it out to be. You'd think it was as bad as Killzone, or something. :p


I finally got Dead Rising this weekend, and now I see what everyone is talking about with the small text. Jebus!

I was thinking about picking up DR, since it's on sale at Worst Buy for $39.99. But, seeing as how I play my games on a 25" TV, I'm worried that I'll not be able to read a damn thing. What say those who've played it? :confused:

MPCanes
10-16-2006, 11:40 AM
I've never had a problem with text on the TV I played it on - a 27" toshiba that, granted, has component in and I don't sit far from, and has a damn nice picture for an SD set. And I have absolutely awful vision, on top of all that.

So take that FWIW.

Poochiesdead
10-16-2006, 11:50 AM
The text during the cut scenes is fine, but when you're talking to someone during the gameplay, it gets real hard to see.

Chugga
10-16-2006, 01:42 PM
In my quest to try out some games for nothing (By "buying" used at EB, then returning the game before 7 days passes), I finally got to put PD Zero to the test yesterday. It's really not as bad as everyone tells me. Sure, it's nowhere near as good as its predecessor on the N64 (Nor is it Halo), but it's not the complete crapfest I was led to believe. I don't think I'd buy it, but it's fun, at least.

Get some friends over and try out the multiplayer that was supposed to hold people until Halo3 came out. Do that and then you'll be in the same boat as everyone else telling you how much garbage it is.

edschmoe
10-16-2006, 03:11 PM
Well, my 360 is supposed to be delivered to me tomorrow. So they did fix it quickly. The only problem is I wont be home to sign for it. So i'll probably have to make arrangements to pick it up. I used to work for UPS, so just the thought of my 360 being repeatedly thrown on and off the truck, makes me think that by the time I do get it, I'll be sending it right back.You get yours back yet???

No not yet. Hopefully by the end of the week. I know it says you have to sign for it but my buddy just got his back and they left it outside by the door :eek: .

Next topic PDZ multiplayer.....

I think it rocks. Still one of the few FPS where aiming actually means something. It is frustrating when you are new and keep taking headshots like crazy, but once you learn how to aim it just keeps getting better. To me it is a game where the Best player usually wins, I happen to like that.

TheRedOx
10-16-2006, 03:25 PM
Don't forget that XBox Live, xbox.com and the xbox.com forums will be down all day tomorrow....
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/10/12/Xbox-Service-Maintenance-.aspx

pyrrhonist
10-16-2006, 03:30 PM
Get some friends over and try out the multiplayer that was supposed to hold people until Halo3 came out. Do that and then you'll be in the same boat as everyone else telling you how much garbage it is.

I may just do that, this weekend. That bad, huh? :D

Silent_Samurai
10-16-2006, 04:13 PM
Don't forget that XBox Live, xbox.com and the xbox.com forums will be down all day tomorrow....
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/10/12/Xbox-Service-Maintenance-.aspx

thanks for that

TastySweetNutz
10-16-2006, 07:49 PM
For those who had to send their 360s in for repairs, how long did it take for them to get it back to you? From what everyone is posting, it seems like it doesn't take long.

edschmoe
10-16-2006, 08:55 PM
Im on week 2 now. I dont expect to get it back until week 3.

Chugga
10-16-2006, 10:12 PM
I may just do that, this weekend. That bad, huh? :D

Well first of all body armor makes you godly....to a point where it's not even fun. When you come around the corner and I point blank nail you in the chest with a shotgun you shouldn't still be at full health. Ontop of that the shooting system is a complete roll of the dice. You could shoot someone in the head 10 times and be forced to kill them the old fashioned way and then sometimes someone can just shoot you once in the face and get the "headshot!" message. Multiplayer is absolute crap.

JaylisJayP
10-16-2006, 10:19 PM
For those who had to send their 360s in for repairs, how long did it take for them to get it back to you? From what everyone is posting, it seems like it doesn't take long.

mine took about 3 weeks i think from start to finish back in March

JaylisJayP
10-16-2006, 10:32 PM
How is there only 1 review for Double Agent when the game comes out to retail tomorrow?

Silent_Samurai
10-17-2006, 01:05 AM
For those who had to send their 360s in for repairs, how long did it take for them to get it back to you? From what everyone is posting, it seems like it doesn't take long.

Mine was out about a month. .... BUT ... that was with sending it back twice. Took me about a week and a half to send it and then get a replacement. The replacement they sent me wouldn't connect to xbox live ... and it took me about a two weeks to get all that sorted out.

DarthPredamorph
10-17-2006, 04:58 AM
i have, and it's no doubt going to be a great game, it's just not for me.
The online is alright. I probably won't play it much though, if it don't have co-op like Chaos Theory. I'll mostly buy it for the singleplayer. Best part of the game if you ask me.

sidewinda
10-17-2006, 08:31 AM
anyone with saints row that has completed the racing missions have any tips? I'm only at level 5 in the docks section and cannot beat this for the life of me. I keep getting rammed into stuff and getting flipped over just hitting the curb, seems like the driving physics completely change, freaking sucks lol.

JaylisJayP
10-17-2006, 09:26 AM
Read this article today....and I personally agree that it's disconcerning what's going on with microtransactions. I have yet to spend any marketplace points on anything, and if i ever do for something like this, you can be damn sure I'll be waiting until i can pick the game itself up for 20 bucks or less.

Paid to play

Tired of cheating for free? EA has announced that in Tiger Woods 07 for the Xbox 360, cheating is going to cost you. Big time, if you want everything. Either you play the game all the way - or you spend $14.25 and get it all the easy way.

As Next Generation reports, you'll be able to cheat on whatever you want - at 200 to 300 Microsoft Points a pop. Courses, equipment and even skills - you can buy it all, instead of playing through the game and earning it. That's nothing new. But shelling out dollars to do so is an innovation... and an unpleasant one. We've hate the way publisher Codemasters has been experimenting with selling cheats over the internet for the past couple years, and we really hate the way EA is apparently jumping on the "nickel and dime the user until they bleed" bandwagon.

The spin will surely be something like, "this way, people who don't want cheats won't have to pay extra for them", but it's still bull****. This is exactly what we feared would go wrong with microtransactions - forcing the user to pay extra to get the entire game.

Jamesweighs
10-17-2006, 09:36 AM
It's along the same lines as the GT4 HD online thing. Paying for a empty shell. It's the start of a very ugly trend.

Not surprised at EA pulling this at all.

I think offering items after the fact is fine. Like GRAW, yeah, it was too expensive, but you got a lot of goodies that they didn't originally create. And Oblivion. Missions and maps are one thing, but paying for items that should've been there to begin with, that's just wrong. Oh, sorry, it's the american way.

TheRedOx
10-17-2006, 09:46 AM
The spin will surely be something like, "this way, people who don't want cheats won't have to pay extra for them", but it's still bull****. This is exactly what we feared would go wrong with microtransactions - forcing the user to pay extra to get the entire game.

I agree. This is not cool at all. Especially with a game like Tiger Woods where actually going through and earning these courses, characters, and equipment is probably quite a lengthy process.

Jamesweighs
10-17-2006, 09:56 AM
And it's probably going to make the online portion suck right off the bat.
Be maxed out from day one or get used to losing.

JaylisJayP
10-17-2006, 10:07 AM
Well, the only thing we can do is not support it.

pyrrhonist
10-17-2006, 10:41 AM
Well, the only thing we can do is not support it.

Exactly. I'm not going to say I've never used a cheat code (Like in a GTA game, for example), but I'm not going to pay someone to unlock a course or club. :rolleyes:

gr8one2386
10-17-2006, 10:44 AM
I for one don't think it's a big deal. It could turn into something much worse, but I don't have a problem with this. It's not like you can't unlock everything they are offering for sale, so I don't see how they are "forcing" you to buy anything. You can get it for free, you just have to play the game.

Smbdyfnkillme
10-17-2006, 10:47 AM
Get used to it. It's the very same reason that we can't use alternate jerseys on Madden even though everybody with a PS2 or Xbox can use them as they please. All of a sudden it costs extra money to put a few extra stripes and textures in the game:rolleyes: Oblivion tried to pull this with that horse armor crap. If this is where gaming is headed, I'll stick to Duck Hunt and Mike Tyson's Punchout.

TheRedOx
10-17-2006, 10:48 AM
I for one don't think it's a big deal. It could turn into something much worse, but I don't have a problem with this. It's not like you can't unlock everything they are offering for sale, so I don't see how they are "forcing" you to buy anything. You can get it for free, you just have to play the game.

But this stuff was in the game before and was most consistently unlocked via a password or a controller button sequence. When the game ships with 7 courses, 3 out of the box and 4 that are unlocked by performance you're missing a ridiculous amount of content if you don't have the skills to get that far on your own.

Smbdyfnkillme
10-17-2006, 10:50 AM
I for one don't think it's a big deal. It could turn into something much worse, but I don't have a problem with this. It's not like you can't unlock everything they are offering for sale, so I don't see how they are "forcing" you to buy anything. You can get it for free, you just have to play the game.

It's a big deal because they are already "forcing" us to buy extra jerseys for Madden. They are "forcing" us to buy extra courses for Tiger Woods at a later date. EA has jumped on this microtransaction bandwagon full force. Last generation, we got this stuff for free. Now, developers are purposely holding things out of games so that they can charge us to get them back. Last generation, we got all kinds of free levels in Splinter Cell and Halo.

gr8one2386
10-17-2006, 11:00 AM
But this stuff was in the game before and was most consistently unlocked via a password or a controller button sequence. When the game ships with 7 courses, 3 out of the box and 4 that are unlocked by performance you're missing a ridiculous amount of content if you don't have the skills to get that far on your own.

But isn't unlocking it on your own kind fo a big part of the game? Isn't that kinda the point?

It's a big deal because they are already "forcing" us to buy extra jerseys for Madden. They are "forcing" us to buy extra courses for Tiger Woods at a later date. EA has jumped on this microtransaction bandwagon full force. Last generation, we got this stuff for free. Now, developers are purposely holding things out of games so that they can charge us to get them back. Last generation, we got all kinds of free levels in Splinter Cell and Halo.

Now that is something worth getting upset about. I do not like developers charging for things that you cannot unlock any other way, but that really doesn't apply to the Tiger Woods situation.

Poochiesdead
10-17-2006, 11:08 AM
Get used to it. It's the very same reason that we can't use alternate jerseys on Madden even though everybody with a PS2 or Xbox can use them as they please. All of a sudden it costs extra money to put a few extra stripes and textures in the game:rolleyes: Oblivion tried to pull this with that horse armor crap. If this is where gaming is headed, I'll stick to Duck Hunt and Mike Tyson's Punchout.Hey now! Duck Hunt and Punchout are still better than most games getting put out nowadays.

Jamesweighs
10-17-2006, 11:17 AM
but that really doesn't apply to the Tiger Woods situation.

But this could cause a major discrepancy online. If someone pays for skills or a maxed out character right after buying it, and it a lot of people just go through the game naturally, doesn't this give those who pay an unfair advantage from day one?

I never played Tiger online last year, do they have a mechanism in place to keep opponents matched somewhat evenly?

Smbdyfnkillme
10-17-2006, 11:18 AM
Hey now! Duck Hunt and Punchout are still better than most games getting put out nowadays.

I still play Mike Tyson's Punchout. No matter how much I play Fight Night: Round 3, I still have more fun with Punchout (just as long as it's the Mike Tyson version).

Mini-rant: I still can't figure out how anybody would enjoy the version without Mike Tyson more than the version with him. Are they crazy? The whole point of any boxing game is to make it to the end and fight an intimidating champion. Who's more intimidating than Mike Tyson? Surely not a random guy (who basically looks like a white Mike Tyson). End Mini-rant.

Smbdyfnkillme
10-17-2006, 11:20 AM
But this could cause a major discrepancy online. If someone pays for skills or a maxed out character right after buying it, and it a lot of people just go through the game naturally, doesn't this give those who pay an unfair advantage from day one?

I never played Tiger online last year, do they have a mechanism in place to keep opponents matched somewhat evenly?

That was always a big problem with the past Tiger Woods games. You couldn't see exactly which character your opponent was using. Sure, you could see that they were using Tiger Woods. However, you couldn't see which Tiger they were using. So if you had the regular Tiger and they had Super Sunday Tiger, you were screwed because you wouldn't see that until the game had started. I'm not sure if they fixed it in last year's 360 version because I never played it after hearing how little effort was put into it. Fight Night screws you like that too. If somebody picks Joe Frazier and maxes out his stats, you won't have a clue. All you'll see is that your opponent is using Joe Frazier.

PrimeBane
10-17-2006, 11:24 AM
Wasn't sure if anyone had posted this yet and I'm too lazy to search :p

http://wham.canoe.ca/360/2006/10/17/2050637-ca.html

TheRedOx
10-17-2006, 11:27 AM
Wasn't sure if anyone had posted this yet and I'm too lazy to search :p

http://wham.canoe.ca/360/2006/10/17/2050637-ca.html

Yeah, only thing I've heard is that they're making enhancements to the "My XBox" portion of the website - I'm hoping it's something cool.

Jamesweighs
10-17-2006, 11:27 AM
I still play Mike Tyson's Punchout. No matter how much I play Fight Night: Round 3, I still have more fun with Punchout (just as long as it's the Mike Tyson version).

Mini-rant: I still can't figure out how anybody would enjoy the version without Mike Tyson more than the version with him. Are they crazy? The whole point of any boxing game is to make it to the end and fight an intimidating champion. Who's more intimidating than Mike Tyson? Surely not a random guy (who basically looks like a white Mike Tyson). End Mini-rant.

I have no idea. That WAS the point. I loved fighting him. Got failry good too. Hardest part was the first min or so.

TheRedOx
10-17-2006, 11:33 AM
Have any of you guys attempted this procedure?:
HEXUS has discovered a new way to clear the Xbox 360 hard drive cache. Previously, you needed to reset your Xbox 360, and hold down the A button as a game was booting up. This new code allows you to clear the entire hard drive cache:

Go to the system blade and then select memory.

Press Y on the HD symbol and then press X,X,Left Bumper, Right Bumper, X,X. Once you do this a messsage will appear saying: Do you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox 360 storage devices?
-----I've been having problem with the dashboard being really slow at times ever since the most recent dashboard update so I've tried this twice now, and it does work, but it seems to only help for a day or so. Anyone elses dashboard extremely slow? I literally have to wait about 20 or 30 seconds for my arcade games to enumerate before I can exit that blade sometimes.

Jamesweighs
10-17-2006, 11:54 AM
I've never heard that. I might have to try that. Mine runs kinda slow too.

I didn't format the hard drive when I got it either. I know that when you set it up, you only have 12-13G free, but heard that if you format it, you get close to the full 20G. Is that true?
Too late now. Too many saves.

Chugga
10-17-2006, 01:51 PM
Well Splinter Cell got a 9.0 from the website that is most famous from completely lowballing Xbox360 titles....so I guess that says enough. I was going to pick it up either way but I always get skeptical when reviews come late.

Smbdyfnkillme
10-17-2006, 02:10 PM
I don't think they're lowballing Xbox 360 titles. There are really only two or three must have titles for the system. Everything else is average to above average. Happens with every console. It takes about a year before the good stuff starts coming out. Anybody with a PS2, PSP, or Xbox (took longer than a year:p ) remembers that.

Chugga
10-17-2006, 02:25 PM
Well theres no doubt that the really great titles don't hit for a year or so after the launch. But I've seen crappy ass PS2/Xbox/Gamecube games receiving the same marks as Xbox360 titles. Their reviewers are so different and out of left field that the Gamecube reviewer could give CrappyTitleA a 8.7 where as an absolute gem of a game gets released for the 360 and is lucky to break 8.3. To me thats crap....I have nothing against being harsh to games...it's the reason I love gamespot so much because they really dig deep when reviewing their games. But at least with them it's generally all across the board. With IGN the differences are just ridiculous.

I'll never forget the year IGN had an NBA Live fanboy write the NBA2k review. Talk about misleading customers.

Smbdyfnkillme
10-17-2006, 02:31 PM
PS2/Xbox/Gamecube titles are not reviewed under the same scale as Xbox 360 games. Xbox 360 is supposed to be next gen. Therefore, when a game like Gun or Tony Hawk comes out and it doesn't look or play like a next gen title, it's rating is going to be lower than the Xbox and PS2 versions. The reviewers want to see and play something that wasn't possible on the previous generation systems. To be honest, there aren't many Xbox 360 games right now that look and play like next gen games. However, when one shows up such as Oblivion, Fight Night Round 3 or Splinter Cell, it gets the score it deserves. The only games you'll be able to compare from most game sites are games that are all in the same generation. So for now, you have to wait until Wii and Ps3 are out to compare reviews.

Chugga
10-17-2006, 02:42 PM
Thats my exact point...grade them for what they are. And to me it's ridiculous that Saints Row and Fight Night are on par with PS2's Dance Factory, Sled Storm, Bombastic, and Magic Pengel. What those 2 games mean for the 360 are a hell of alot different then what those games mean for the PS2. I'm not saying Fight Night is a 9.8 or Saints Row is a 10...but where they generally rate the 360 games just doesn't sit right with me when I look across the way and see Knockout Kings sitting at an 8.9. To me Saint's Row should have easily crossed the 9 point barrier...not high but 9.1 at least. People NEED to play that game and 8.5 to me isn't exactly a "holy crap I gotta go out and buy that". And as for Fight Night I'm not asking for much but is an 8.8 asking too much for what that game means to the 360? Right now it's probably the best sports games released for the system when you look at what it's going up against. And while it has it's problems what it brings to the table is amazing.

I'm just saying Boxing games on the next gen systems aren't going to get much better then what we've already seen from Fight Night so are you really setting the boxing bar at what an 8.9 tops?

I'm not saying "ign sucks at rating 360's games"...I just think they are always a few fraction points off. I'm not saying "they rated that game an 8.2 it should be a 9.5!" But a few of their 8.5's should be 8.8's and a few of their 7.8's should be 8.2's.

Smbdyfnkillme
10-17-2006, 02:49 PM
I see what you're saying, but Bombastic and Magic Pengel are two highly original and fun games. Can you really say that Fight Night 3 is drastically different than Fight Night 2? I didn't even have to change any of my strategies. So basically, I've already played this game before when it was called Fight Night 2. The reason the rating is low is that they still didn't fix the main problem of this game. The career mode. Single player is non existant for this game because of the terrible career mode. If you don't have friends, you won't have any fun with this game. That has to be accounted for in the ratings. Same situation with Saint's Row. It's fun, but we've already played it three times before when it was called Grand Theft Auto. Sure it improved some things (most importantly: the aiming), but it's still the same thing we've been playing for the last 4 or 5 years. It's really hard to rate the game higher when all it does is copy a game and make minor improvements while failing in other aspects.

Chugga
10-17-2006, 03:03 PM
Well I'm biased because I'm a huge fan of fight night....we had boxing tournaments over my house for months after that game came out. Single player was really an afterthought for me, I just did it to get the achievements back when I thought those were actually worth the time getting. As for Saints Row I just love the game. Where as you call it a clone (and I won't disagree what-so-ever there) to me it's the game that GTA should have always been. I absolutely love the GTA series, but theres always been that one thing that annoyed me about it....being the small time gangster is cool as hell then all of a sudden the government has your cell phone number and your retrieving jet packs from government bases and stealing low mowing equipment. That killed san andreas for me....being part of grove street was by far the coolest thing I thought GTA had ever offered...which is why I absolutely love Saints Row....you never really leave grove street and you never stop rollin on ballas.

JaylisJayP
10-17-2006, 04:38 PM
i have said it before and I agree with Chugga...it's not right that they lowball these 360 games and that they're reviewing these games based on the "unrealized potential" of future 360 titles so they'll stack up accordingly. That's garbage.

avsfan21
10-17-2006, 05:03 PM
Well I took off my intercooler yesterday because the system just turned off in the middle of me playing. I took it off to see if it was the connection from the power cord to the system, which it wasnt. It was something with the power supply. Anyway the system is actually a lot quieter without the intercooler. I am still not sure if I will put it back on or not. I will see how the heat is after a while of playing without it before I decide to put it back on or not.

Smbdyfnkillme
10-17-2006, 05:04 PM
Fair enough. We'll just agree to disagree, but until today we haven't really had many triple A games to get good ratings. Now that Splinter Cell, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, F.E.A.R., and G.O.W. are coming out, you'll finally get the ratings that you want.

Moe Szyslak
10-17-2006, 05:43 PM
My 360 has returned!! They packed a letter inside saying they have replaced my 360. I looked at the manufacturing date and it was still a unit made in 2005. New serial number. So they must take yours, throw it in a pile grab one they have already replaced the insides of, and ship it out.

oaktown2000
10-17-2006, 05:50 PM
I don't understand why so many of you even give a flying **** about what someone rates a game. Unless the person giving the review is an exact carbon copy of yourself (thinks the same...likes the same games...likes the same colors...etc), then it doesn't matter. Play the game. Decide for yourself if you like it. I've liked games every one else hated and have hated a lot of the "must-have" hyped up games. For example...I don't care if some I-net gamer gives Saints Row a 10.0......I think those types of wannabe-a-gangster games suck.

avsfan21
10-17-2006, 05:53 PM
Reviews are more for people that arent going to buy every game as they come out. Unless it is something I know I am going to buy like Final Fantasy 12 or probably Gears of War, I dont get it as soon as it comes out. I wait for other people to see how it is before I might buy it.

Chugga
10-17-2006, 06:06 PM
I don't understand why so many of you even give a flying **** about what someone rates a game. Unless the person giving the review is an exact carbon copy of yourself (thinks the same...likes the same games...likes the same colors...etc), then it doesn't matter. Play the game. Decide for yourself if you like it. I've liked games every one else hated and have hated a lot of the "must-have" hyped up games. For example...I don't care if some I-net gamer gives Saints Row a 10.0......I think those types of wannabe-a-gangster games suck.


Like it or not alot of people out there go by the reviews that IGN and Gamespot leave for games. Their pages don't get millions of hits a week for no reason....people wait to see what they have to say and shop accordingly. With that being said when that person owns both a 360 and a PS2 and goes onto IGN to see that Saints Row/Fight Night are rated the exact same as freakin Dance Factory well then I see a problem with that. Young kids, parents that don't really know better, and a large portion of the gaming community look at scores and rule games out immediately. I can't tell you how many people looked at the outfits score of a 6.9 and said "no thank you" before even knowing what the hell the game was about. Is the game amazing? No it's not, but I think it's a game thats worth at least a weekend of play, and at the very least a short rental. I had a friend come over one day and say "hey isn't that the war game for the 360 that absolutely sucks" and I simply said "just play it"....4 hours later he was planning when he could come over again to beat the rest of the game. Thats not a fair representation of a 6.9 game. Put the game in the 7s for the hell of it, not even above a 7.5, but at least open a few peoples eyes to the game. Everyone knows that anything below a 7 is "stay away from" material.

So like I said believe it or not if you look through this thread theres a hell of alot of referencing to people waiting for a certain game to get reviewed or people wondering if a game that only got a 8.2 was worth purchasing. It's just something that people take into account. As stupid as it may sound people care about that stuff. So if people are going to really follow what they do you'd hope they do it to the best of their ability. And like Jay said when you grade on a scale based on potential then I think you are doing people who want to go out and buy games RIGHT NOW a huge disservice.

Even "when" a game is reviewed is a big deal. Has a game been out for 3 days already and doesn't have a review up? Well looks like thats a game you'll likely want to give a pass to. Remember when Perfect Dark had been in stores for a week without anyone having the guts to review it....or how about recently when NBA Live/NBA2K7 both launched at the same time yet NBA2k had it's review out a week before the game came out and Live had it's review up a week AFTER the game came out. All of these things are telling signs on whether or not to buy a videogame. I mean I wish I could go by your philosophy of just trying out every single game out there (and believe me I've tried) but with 3 systems out by the end of next month and about a billion games to choose from I simply can't do that so word-of-mouth and online reviews are whats going to help me decide what to purchase.

samhain88
10-17-2006, 08:13 PM
i want sonic.

MarvLevyshead
10-17-2006, 09:13 PM
I'm just saying Boxing games on the next gen systems aren't going to get much better then what we've already seen from Fight Night so are you really setting the boxing bar at what an 8.9 tops?

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Fight Night is boxing excellence.

Well, the engine is at least.

The career mode sucks more balls than RuPaul.

Seriously. The career mode actually took a step BACK which I found to be morally impossible...until I realized who was developing the game so I should'nt have expected a FULL game to begin with.

Other than that, great game, but there CAN be improvements.

Edit: Just saw somebody else echoed my beliefs.

I just hope the next Fight Night is a bit deeper of an experience than round 3.

Chugga
10-17-2006, 09:26 PM
Fight Night is boxing excellence.

Well, the engine is at least.

The career mode sucks more balls than RuPaul.

Seriously. The career mode actually took a step BACK which I found to be morally impossible...until I realized who was developing the game so I should'nt have expected a FULL game to begin with.

Other than that, great game, but there CAN be improvements.

Edit: Just saw somebody else echoed my beliefs.

I just hope the next Fight Night is a bit deeper of an experience than round 3.

I completely agree there but what I'm saying is there is a ceiling in the boxing genre and I firmly believe the game can't get 1.5 points better even if it was perfection. It can work on the story, smoothen up the graphics, and tinker with the gameplay...but much like you said fight night IS boxing excellence...so I just think a 8.5 rating is stupid, regardless of how shallow the career mode is. I've never been much of a career guy in my sports games anyways, always had friends to play against so career was more of a "yeah I'll try it out" kind of thing.

TastySweetNutz
10-17-2006, 09:35 PM
I called EB this afternoon and they told me Splinter Cell comes out next week. Either it does or the employee there totally dropped the ball. Anyone have a concrete release date?

Chugga
10-17-2006, 09:40 PM
Xbox360 version will be in stores tomorrow....a week later for other systems.

MarvLevyshead
10-17-2006, 10:17 PM
I completely agree there but what I'm saying is there is a ceiling in the boxing genre and I firmly believe the game can't get 1.5 points better even if it was perfection. It can work on the story, smoothen up the graphics, and tinker with the gameplay...but much like you said fight night IS boxing excellence...so I just think a 8.5 rating is stupid, regardless of how shallow the career mode is. I've never been much of a career guy in my sports games anyways, always had friends to play against so career was more of a "yeah I'll try it out" kind of thing.

Agreed.

Although none of my friends are gamers so I'm always stuck just playing with myself.

:(

pyrrhonist
10-17-2006, 11:01 PM
Although none of my friends are gamers so I'm always stuck just playing with myself.

:eek:
:D :p

Oh come on---I can't be the only one laughing at this comment. :D

I understand your true intent, though. Varying work schedules have prevented my group of friends from gathering for one of our famous weekend LAN parties the past 6 months or so. :(

JaylisJayP
10-17-2006, 11:13 PM
i want sonic.


i died 10 times playing the demo because of the camera

JaylisJayP
10-17-2006, 11:14 PM
gametab.com is my new favorite video game news site. All inclusive and updates daily. Check it out if you haven't yet.

JaylisJayP
10-17-2006, 11:31 PM
i can't believe it's been almost a year since launch, and there's still only 1 fighting game out for this system (DOA4)...unless I'm missing one? Really wish MK: Armageddon would've been a 360 port, as well. I would've been all over that one.

Silent_Samurai
10-18-2006, 03:47 AM
I'm kind of suprised that there's only one fighting game out for the 360 as well.

As for game ratings. I agree with Chugga, I go by game ratings too. It's a good thing I get most of my ratings from OXM, otherwise I'd be more put off by IGN towards games. Though, I think OXM can unfarily overrate or lowball games as well. Take Full Auto for instance. OXM gave it a 6.5 and I was a little "ehhhh, I don't know if I wanna buy it now" .. but the whole premise of a racing game with guns (Burnout with guns, everyone WRONGLY called it, not a good comparison IMO, that's what got it the low rating I think) ... The premise is neat. And the gameplay is fun. I still bought, because I ultimately wanted it, and played it and had a blast. It's fun getting to blow your opponent away. Playing on Live with friends is great fun. However, yes, it did have it's problems. 1) Not enough cars, well, that was too bad, the most minor of the problems. 2) Not enough tracks, that could make the game get old kind of fast. 3) You couldn't mix and match weapons sets. 4) Another minor quip, but the destructable scenery, was more eye candy than it was a component of gameplay. It could hamper your car or your opponents car, but not all that much. And comparing it to Burnout was what hurt it the most. It easliy deserved a 7 or a 7.5. Had it got those ratings, I wouldn't have been "ehhhhh" when I saw the low rating in OXM.

OXM gave it a low rating for some some seriously ******ed reasons too. One of the biggest ones being "No backstory" ... yet they didn't hesitate to compare it with Burnout, which guess what, has NO backstory.

Ok end rant.

Anyone know anything about Ninja Gaiden: Sigma and the 360?

Silent_Samurai
10-18-2006, 03:50 AM
One other Full Auto thing .. personally, I would love ot see a sequel. A little better done. More cars, definitely MORE tracks, customizeable weapons sets, more variety in the weapons sets, and exploding scenery that did alter the map. Maybe a train gets blown off the rails and the tracks come down creating a ramp to jump over it, or you drive along the tracks for a while.

As for ratings again. They gave Just Cause an 8.5, but I asked a friend playing the game, and he said it was a rental at best. So, now, that I know, I can wait and buy the game 6 months from now much cheaper and not feel I wasted 60 bucks.

Jamesweighs
10-18-2006, 07:20 AM
I get a british mag every now and again for their game trailer dvd packed in. Their reveiws are by far the worst I've seen. Gave GRAW a 7.5, and turned around and gave Just cause a 9.0.

I think IGN do lowball them a bit, I don't really even consider OXM's, theirs are waaaay off IMO, gamespot seems to be ok, although I think they go a bit low too on some I'd rate higher.

But I do find reveiws helpful. NHL07 for example, before it was out, it was nice to read about the new control system. Without taking into account what multiple reviewers had to say, you'd be left with a totally blind purchase on that one. And what if the new scheme didn't work, you'd be screwed. It's nice to see what sties have to say for sports options, like Chugga said, NHL07/2K7 NBA games. I don't know anyone who buys both, just to see which is better.

TheRedOx
10-18-2006, 07:21 AM
XBox Live is back up but xbox.com and the forums are still down for a while longer this a.m.
With coming back up Lumines LIVE is up in the arcade for 1200 M$ points. What exactly is this game? I've heard good things about it but have never played it or seen it in action - looks kind of like Tetris.

Smbdyfnkillme
10-18-2006, 08:04 AM
XBox Live is back up but xbox.com and the forums are still down for a while longer this a.m.
With coming back up Lumines LIVE is up in the arcade for 1200 M$ points. What exactly is this game? I've heard good things about it but have never played it or seen it in action - looks kind of like Tetris.

I have it on PSP. It's basically Tetris with music. Go read the PSP review for Lumines on any site for an explanation of the game. It's hard to explain. It's an okay game, but it's highly overrated. Definitely not worth 1200 points and not worth the 9 or 10 rating that it has on every site. I don't think I've played it since the first month that I bought the PSP.

JaylisJayP
10-18-2006, 08:21 AM
sometimes gamespot is right on with their reviews...and sometimes they give Perfect Dark Zero a 9.

Jamesweighs
10-18-2006, 08:29 AM
1200 points for it!?! Damn.

I'm still bitter towards Gamespot giving Knockout Kings 2001 a low review. It was great, very realistic (for it's time, and for the next 3 years after too).

pyrrhonist
10-18-2006, 10:50 AM
1200 points!?! DAMN!!

Lumines isn't really that much more spectacular than any other puzzle game....

Smbdyfnkillme
10-18-2006, 10:53 AM
At least you didn't pay $40 for the PSP version like me:( This is a great example of reviews kicking me in the ass.

1200 points!?! DAMN!!

Lumines isn't really that much more spectacular than any other puzzle game....

Jamesweighs
10-18-2006, 11:26 AM
I wish I would've waited for reviews before buying The Matrix on ps2...
hahaha.

TheRedOx
10-18-2006, 01:22 PM
I guess some parts of XBox Live are still down...the forums, the gamercard servers, etc...for another 24 hours.
Found this pic from X'06 Canada today for Jamesweighs though, big racing game fan that he is;) .... that wheel looks like a must-have!
http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/3638/273260851de0b10646apc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Jamesweighs
10-18-2006, 01:31 PM
*drools*

Excellent.

I found this site earlier today. My GF said "No f****n' way!" Hahahah
It would make me single, and most likely make me stay single.

http://www.bobearlracing.com/

thanks for the pic Ruutu.

I just got to level 50 in the original Forza. Those P1 racers are really tough. Have to do some superior tuning.
But 8 laps of Nordschleife, I LOVE IT!


And I do believe the new MS wheel will work in it just fine.

TheRedOx
10-18-2006, 01:54 PM
Nice looking GOW multiplayer video clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beH5VOLMN5w

Silent_Samurai
10-18-2006, 03:23 PM
that was great looking, thanks for that ... you know what else is awesome, you get to be Locusts ... so cool.

Moe Szyslak
10-18-2006, 07:02 PM
Any of you guys use the 360 wireless adapter?? I want to move my 360 to the basement, and keep my modem and wireless router upstairs. Will I be OK?

Silent_Samurai
10-18-2006, 07:52 PM
as far as I can tell you should be ok ... but no, I don't use the wireless adapter.

The Isomotion31
10-18-2006, 08:48 PM
dang it took a lot of shots from the shotgun and still didn't bring the man down.

CJF28
10-18-2006, 10:06 PM
can everyone get on live? I just tried logging in and it said it couldnt find a connection

Chugga
10-18-2006, 10:07 PM
Live is supposed to be down for the day....not sure if that is over with yet or not. I just got in, been waiting to try out Splinter Cell and see how that is.

CJF28
10-18-2006, 10:16 PM
ok. i thought the "down day" was yesterday. oh well. no biggie. as long as its not something Ive done . went thru the testing ,and it confirmed everything until it got to XBOX LIVE ,then it said failure

Chugga
10-18-2006, 10:23 PM
Most of Xbox.com is still down so probably the same for the servers, give it a go tomorrow

Silent_Samurai
10-19-2006, 03:01 AM
any of you guys know anything about this game. I saw this on the achievement website, and I don't really feel like digging through 85 pages to see if it was talked about.

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/11524/Atari-Brings-Bullet-Witch-to-North-America

What do you think? Looks cool to me. I like me giant fancy monsters though. But with a tried and true Japanese staple like CHAOS mode, (they sure do like that word a lot) ... it could be just another paint by the number Japanese hack n slash, only with a broomstick gun. Still looks cool though.

TheRedOx
10-19-2006, 11:40 AM
Here's another Forza2 pic for Jamesweighs.
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2569/dsc01438mb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Smbdyfnkillme
10-19-2006, 12:14 PM
Read the review for Lumines on IGN. Turns out that the 1200 points you pay is just for the "Basic" pack. To unlock the full game, you have to buy some extra packs to add on to the regular pack. Talk about bleeding you dry. Anybody still in favor of microtransactions?

TheRedOx
10-19-2006, 12:28 PM
Read the review for Lumines on IGN. Turns out that the 1200 points you pay is just for the "Basic" pack. To unlock the full game, you have to buy some extra packs to add on to the regular pack. Talk about bleeding you dry. Anybody still in favor of microtransactions?

I read that too....the custom pack is another 600 making it 1800 points total for, essentialy, the 'full' game...not cool at all! I have yet to even try it yet as I couldn't sign on to Live last night. I have a feeling the g/f might like it and she hasn't played the 360 in a while. I'll leave it up to her if she wants to purchase the game.

Gooker1
10-19-2006, 12:37 PM
Any of you guys use the 360 wireless adapter?? I want to move my 360 to the basement, and keep my modem and wireless router upstairs. Will I be OK?

If I were you, I'd first make sure your wireless router is compatible w/ the wireless adapter.

Mine isn't! :(

Eric Leduc
10-19-2006, 12:52 PM
If I were you, I'd first make sure your wireless router is compatible w/ the wireless adapter.

Mine isn't! :(
what router are you using?

Chugga
10-19-2006, 01:39 PM
Well after putting in some minimal playtime in Splinter Cell I was pretty impressed. They just dropped me off at a level thats in complete sunlight so I'm going to approach this level with extreme caution. I finally got to one of those "moral" moments last night where you have to do something that either goes completely against what you've been taught to do or makes you look bad in the eyes of the terrorists. I'm no punk so I killed the innocent bastard, but from what I've heard the choices get more complicated as time goes on.

PrimeBane
10-19-2006, 02:13 PM
Any Wireless A, B, or G router should work with the wireless adapter.

But, you can't have the security turned up any higher than WPA. I had my wireless B-G router with WPA2 and the XBox couldn't see it at all. :(

Apparently it works best with an A-G router...

Going through 2 floors shouldn't be a huge problem depending on the construction of your home.

For the record, I have a Link-Sys Wireless G router with Speed Booster.

MPCanes
10-19-2006, 02:20 PM
Anyone else incredibly excited about the HD-DVD add on? At first, I was pretty meh, but the price of 199.99 and the inclusion of a remote and King Kong makes it a virtual must have.

Not to mention HD releases of Casablanca, Superman Returns/1/2, The Hulk, Miami Vice, and other Catalog titles makes it oh so very tempting.

I'm going to be in serious debt after November. SERIOUS.

Eric Leduc
10-19-2006, 02:22 PM
Any Wireless A, B, or G router should work with the wireless adapter.

But, you can't have the security turned up any higher than WPA. I had my wireless B-G router with WPA2 and the XBox couldn't see it at all. :(

Apparently it works best with an A-G router...

Going through 2 floors shouldn't be a huge problem depending on the construction of your home.

For the record, I have a Link-Sys Wireless G router with Speed Booster.
I heard that the wireless adapter firmware will be upgraded in the future to support WPA2.

PrimeBane
10-19-2006, 02:22 PM
Yup... can't wait to pick up an HD-DVD player for $200 :D

That could signal the end of my DVD buying days...

PrimeBane
10-19-2006, 02:24 PM
I heard that the wireless adapter firmware will be upgraded in the future to support WPA2.

I sure hope so... I'm not super comfortable with just WPA.

and WEP is like letting your "little buddy" dangle for all to see. :eek:

Eric Leduc
10-19-2006, 02:41 PM
I sure hope so... I'm not super comfortable with just WPA.

and WEP is like letting your "little buddy" dangle for all to see. :eek:
LOL, tell me about it! For my original xbox, the wireless adapter only supports WEP. I wasn't comfortable have my PC on a network that was only WEP. So I got another router and have my original xbox on that router using WEP and I have all my other wireless devices on a seperate router using WPA.

Chugga
10-19-2006, 02:42 PM
The whole $200 for an HD-DVD player is a really enticing offer....I still don't have both feet in the blu-ray boat despite having a player on the way...it's going to be a hard offer to turn down but with so many amazing games coming out this holiday season for all the systems I just don't think the money will be there to drop $200.

Smbdyfnkillme
10-19-2006, 02:50 PM
The whole $200 for an HD-DVD player is a really enticing offer....I still don't have both feet in the blu-ray boat despite having a player on the way...it's going to be a hard offer to turn down but with so many amazing games coming out this holiday season for all the systems I just don't think the money will be there to drop $200.

I'm in the other boat. I have the money, but this is the kind of race where I can only support the winner. I still laugh at all the fools with their betamax. There is no doubt that one of these two will become betamax, so I think I can be patient long enought to wait for the outcome.

Sbells
10-19-2006, 03:14 PM
I'm going to be playing minimal multiplayer with whatever game I decide to purchase... Tiger Woods or Splinter Cell?

Chugga
10-19-2006, 03:16 PM
Splinter Cell so far has been amazing. I got to shoot an innocent man in the face to prove my worth. Does it get any better then that?

oaktown2000
10-19-2006, 03:18 PM
I'm going to be playing minimal multiplayer with whatever game I decide to purchase... Tiger Woods or Splinter Cell?


I'd go with Splinter as well.........I'd imagine golf would get pretty repetitive after a while.

oaktown2000
10-19-2006, 03:20 PM
Does it get any better then that?


If I answer, "yes, putting an explosive device up a drug dealers bum"...do i win anything?

Chugga
10-19-2006, 03:21 PM
No you don't. And it does get better then that in a matter of 6 days...I would have had you win someone if you acknowledged the greatness that is released in 6 days.

oaktown2000
10-19-2006, 03:23 PM
If you're refering to the greatness that I think....isn't it actually in 5 days...the 24th.

Chugga
10-19-2006, 03:25 PM
Ships the 24th, I won't have it in CT until the 25th

oaktown2000
10-19-2006, 03:26 PM
If I answer, "yes.....putting on your 70's, unbuttoned, bright yellow pimp-shirt and face planting someone into the concrete while yelling..."I'm Luke Cage".....do I win ;)

oaktown2000
10-19-2006, 03:29 PM
So chugga....would you still buy "the greatness that comes out on the 25th (in Conn)" if .......say......IGN......gave it a 8.1?????


You ratings who re :p

Chugga
10-19-2006, 03:34 PM
No it's entirely too late now

Chugga
10-19-2006, 03:35 PM
So chugga....would you still buy "the greatness that comes out on the 25th (in Conn)" if .......say......IGN......gave it a 8.1?????


You ratings who re :p

Theres some games that simply defy the scoring systems. Marvel Ultimate Alliance is one....Gears of War is another, Final Fantasy is another. You could rate these games 5.5's and I'd still buy them. Then after I bought them I'd come to this message board and complain about how badly they got lowballed.

madchild1978
10-19-2006, 03:37 PM
I have to believe that blu ray will be the equivalent to betamax.

JaylisJayP
10-19-2006, 03:59 PM
I'm in the other boat. I have the money, but this is the kind of race where I can only support the winner. I still laugh at all the fools with their betamax. There is no doubt that one of these two will become betamax, so I think I can be patient long enought to wait for the outcome.

i completely agree with you. Plus making my decision easier is that I rarely buy DVDs anymore...so I'm not planning to go out and buy a bunch of HD-DVDs anyway.

When they have HD-DVD's in mainstream rental stores, then I'd consider getting the player.

Moe Szyslak
10-19-2006, 07:07 PM
Apparently it works best with an A-G router...

Going through 2 floors shouldn't be a huge problem depending on the construction of your home.

For the record, I have a Link-Sys Wireless G router with Speed Booster.

I have an old Linksys Wireless-B router. It works, but I wasnt sure if I'd need to upgrade to something faster.

I take it your happy w/ your G Spped Booster.

Im trying to decide if I should buy a faster router. or buy 40 ft of ethernet cable and run it through the floor.

CJF28
10-19-2006, 08:14 PM
If I answer, "yes.....putting on your 70's, unbuttoned, bright yellow pimp-shirt and face planting someone into the concrete while yelling..."I'm Luke Cage".....do I win ;)


I cant beleive you got that wrong. its supposed to be

"Im Luke Cage, *****!! "

Silent_Samurai
10-19-2006, 09:38 PM
so IGN gave Splinter Cell an 8.1? (I only skimeed over the posts). Did I read that correctly? And was it a lowball. My brother in law has it and says it's great. Thinks it's harder than the previous Splinter Cells.

Also, no love for Bullet Witch?

Chugga
10-19-2006, 09:41 PM
No splinter cell got a 9.0....rating is pretty much on point from what I've played so far.

Silent_Samurai
10-19-2006, 09:49 PM
ok good.

MarvLevyshead
10-19-2006, 10:41 PM
Tony Hawk Project 8 demo on Xbox Live today.

evachrono
10-19-2006, 10:44 PM
If you haven't seen my thread there are taking pre orders for Assassin's Creed Collectors Box Set for the xbox 360 ver and it comes with a 12 inch figure so pre order it now b4 they sell out !! :P I already pre order mine since that like paying 30 for the game and 30 for the figure ^_^
http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342827

evachrono
10-19-2006, 10:45 PM
No splinter cell got a 9.0....rating is pretty much on point from what I've played so far.

It got a 8.5 from gamespot but overall it looks good to me ^_^

idiot7
10-20-2006, 10:07 AM
The game looks great, gameplay is the same ol style, story line is great worth buying 9.5

PrimeBane
10-20-2006, 11:56 AM
I have an old Linksys Wireless-B router. It works, but I wasnt sure if I'd need to upgrade to something faster.

I take it your happy w/ your G Spped Booster.

Im trying to decide if I should buy a faster router. or buy 40 ft of ethernet cable and run it through the floor.

If you can, run the line... not only will it be faster, you won't have to worry about interference or the connection dropping.

I don't know why they don't wire new houses with Cat 5 cable...

Yeah, I really do like the router... but the Speedbooster is only necessary if you have a matching wireless card.

TheRedOx
10-20-2006, 12:37 PM
If you can, run the line... not only will it be faster, you won't have to worry about interference or the connection dropping.

I don't know why they don't wire new houses with Cat 5 cable...


Definitely. Wired connection, if it's possible, would be a lot more reliable.

kelso
10-20-2006, 02:37 PM
I just got used copy of PGR3 for cheap, it is a great game.

Silent_Samurai
10-20-2006, 04:27 PM
pm sent

TrebleX
10-20-2006, 04:50 PM
New Rainbow Six Multiplayer video on IGN...

This game looks amazing as hell in multiplayer!

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/815/815419/vids_1.html

JaylisJayP
10-20-2006, 05:54 PM
yeah i'm leaning more and more toward getting Rainbow Six Vegas when it comes out, especially since I have a $30 credit at Rhino Games.

Lord Magneto
10-20-2006, 06:48 PM
So i'm going to attempt to join the ranks of the 360 crew here finally... i had a ipod at bestbuy that was broken but had service plan on it...they lost it... so i just got a 30 gig ipod video for free... the girl never took it out of the packaging...score...so I think i'm going to attempt to return it at Target tomorrow and then pay the rest for a 360 $150 + tax for a 360... booya... I'm crossing my fingers that target will let me exchange it even though i dont have a recipt from there...

Then in 2 weeks i get my quarterly bonus from work... im buying a LCD tv... xmas is coming early this yr...and just in time for gears of war

JaylisJayP
10-20-2006, 07:00 PM
So i'm going to attempt to join the ranks of the 360 crew here finally... i had a ipod at bestbuy that was broken but had service plan on it...they lost it... so i just got a 30 gig ipod video for free... the girl never took it out of the packaging...score...so I think i'm going to attempt to return it at Target tomorrow and then pay the rest for a 360 $150 + tax for a 360... booya... I'm crossing my fingers that target will let me exchange it even though i dont have a recipt from there...

Then in 2 weeks i get my quarterly bonus from work... im buying a LCD tv... xmas is coming early this yr...and just in time for gears of war


that's awesome. I'm excited for you. I remember when I first upgraded my TV and then got the 360. It's a whole new world, man.

JaylisJayP
10-20-2006, 07:00 PM
Anyone know where I can get an up-to-date list of what XBOX games are backward compatible?

BRETT FAVRE RULES
10-20-2006, 08:02 PM
anyone in canada that has not bought splinter cell yet best buy has a sale if you buy the game you get a 12 month x-box live card for free :eek:

JaylisJayP
10-20-2006, 09:30 PM
anyone in canada that has not bought splinter cell yet best buy has a sale if you buy the game you get a 12 month x-box live card for free :eek:

wow, if they had that here i'd actually buy the game.


....and then sell the game on ebay.

Chugga
10-20-2006, 10:02 PM
I just beat Splinter Cell....pretty fun game, some of the levels were amazing...mainly those that take place in the daylight. One of the missions in Africa basically throws you in the middle of a turf war...tanks, machine gun nests, etc all stuff you gotta get by unseen.

Silent_Samurai
10-21-2006, 02:24 AM
My friggin xbox broke again!!! :mad: ... My wife and I were watching a movie. SPKT!!! ... Screen froze. Restarted the xbox and got those three nifty red lights. Woo friggin hoo. This will be the third time I've had to return a system. Of course the last time I did it was back in Feb I think. And there's a 90 day warranty on it right? ... So maybe I can talk them into doing it for free since it's the THIRD time and all. To be fair, the second time I sent one back was when they sent me one that wouldn't connect to Live.

larry_chimp_man
10-21-2006, 03:05 AM
anyone in canada that has not bought splinter cell yet best buy has a sale if you buy the game you get a 12 month x-box live card for free :eek:

Yeah, I found this out AFTER I bought the game from Best Buy the other day. :(

They said I can go back with the receipt and get the 12 month card though, so I think I'm going to do that.

larry_chimp_man
10-21-2006, 03:08 AM
Anyone know where I can get an up-to-date list of what XBOX games are backward compatible?

Cheers: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm

JaylisJayP
10-21-2006, 07:51 AM
ty

TrebleX
10-21-2006, 07:59 AM
ultimate mortal combat 3 was on XBLA for a bit yesterday and they took it off.

can anyone confirm this?

JaylisJayP
10-21-2006, 10:24 AM
ultimate mortal combat 3 was on XBLA for a bit yesterday and they took it off.

can anyone confirm this?

from gametab.com...

The next release on Microsoft's Xbox Live Arcade platform, Midway's Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, was surprisingly—and mistakenly—released to the downloading sharks of North America yesterday, who, at the smell of fresh arcade blood, snagged the classic fighter. Classic? I know it's a stretch.
And just as quickly as it appeared, the download was gone. Fortunately, some of our quick witted readers were able to complete the 43MB download and sent us some pics for proof.
UMK3 will unfortunately boot players off XBL after a short period but reader Dan was able to play long enough to net some of the game's Acheivements.
The game was then re-released to Live around 1AM PST, but according to Major Nelson's blog and MS community manager Arne, users are still having a hard time finding UMK3, with the XBL team looking into the issue. I'm sure they'll get their beheaded ducks in a row soon enough and we'll all be enjoying ripping eachother limb from limb before Monday hits. Michael McWhertor