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CJF28
04-09-2007, 08:52 PM
BTW, I should be back online this week

cory

pyrrhonist
04-09-2007, 08:53 PM
What's the overall concensus...is it worth the MS points....or do you guys wish you had back your points and had never DL'd it??

Assuming you're talking about the Gears content, I believe it's free.

PrimeBane
04-09-2007, 08:55 PM
From what a buddy has told me, respawns are pretty random...

oaktown2000
04-09-2007, 08:56 PM
Assuming you're talking about the Gears content, I believe it's free.


Well...you can't beat free.....not even with a stick.

PrimeBane
04-09-2007, 08:59 PM
Judging my my friend's list Guitar Hero scores, those that have it are long fingered freaks... my stubby fingers don't allow me to go past the easy settings yet :(

pyrrhonist
04-09-2007, 09:05 PM
Judging my my friend's list Guitar Hero scores, those that have it are long fingered freaks... my stubby fingers don't allow me to go past the easy settings yet :(

Don't feel bad, Scott---I can't go above "Normal". Once you bring the 5th fret in, my fingers always go beyond my control. I have had the original PS2 GH for some time, and even with practice, I never got comfortable going to "Hard" mode. It was even worse with my co-op on GH2, as none of my buddies that come over were even good enough to co-op with, even if they were on Easy. :mad:

someguy6000
04-09-2007, 11:00 PM
i have the same problem with GH2 Hard is crazy i think most of my problem is i have a hard time recognizing hammer on's and pull off's

looks like i have to give gears of war another spin to see the mayhem.

someguy6000
04-10-2007, 02:19 AM
Don't let the lull in gunfire and grenades fool you. Gears of War® is readying its next deadly onslaught with an upcoming title update, currently set to siege Xbox Live® on April 9 at 4:00 P.M. Pacific Time. In addition to the small-arms fire of a few adjustments to the title's multiplayer battles, the Gears of War update delivers an explosive and game-changing new multiplayer mode known as Annex
Respawns
Unlike previous Gears of War multiplayer game modes, Annex allows you to respawn back into the current round after you've been eliminated. Respawns happen in 15 second waves. This means players can get back into fight after as little as 1 second or as long as 15 seconds. Any teammates that died during that time will respawn together to continue fighting as a team. The introduction of infinite respawns means that kills in Annex don't count towards any of the kill-based achievements like "Seriously …" or "The Nuge."the last part blows if it is true

Serious Sam
04-10-2007, 05:34 AM
Hey guys, popping in to let you know there's a new Halo 3 video up at Bungie.net

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=MPBetaAndVidocRelease

Shows off massive multiplayer footage, the bubble shield revealed and a third grenade type (although you can't really call it a grenade... check the video out and see for yourself). Awesome stuff!

Lord Magneto
04-10-2007, 05:37 AM
downloading new vid now

Lord Magneto
04-10-2007, 05:45 AM
seriously i cant wait for halo3...that video makes me want to play halo 2 again... i liked the defense bubble shield and the mine... pretty cool idea...

Master Windu
04-10-2007, 06:03 AM
Not all of the glitches were fixed in the new GOW patch. I super jump is there and the A button run and shooting with the shotgun is still there. I know because both were used against me today.

Smbdyfnkillme
04-10-2007, 07:41 AM
Not all of the glitches were fixed in the new GOW patch. I super jump is there and the A button run and shooting with the shotgun is still there. I know because both were used against me today.

They didn't fix most of the glitches. They just made them harder to do. That doesn't help much because they'll figure out how to do the glitches in a short period of time. Weapon sliding still works, but the timing is harder now. How is that a fix?

I still can't get over the new wall sticking that was added in the update. I only got stuck to a wall on accident once every few games. Now, I get stuck all the time. Of all the things that needed to be fixed, why this? Anybody else having this problem? My whole team was having this problem when we were playing Mausoleum and trying to rush to the sniper.

someguy6000
04-10-2007, 08:25 AM
i had that problem last night well sorta i kept sliding to each wall while tring to run the thing that was pissing me off last night was the run up and shoot you with a shotgun and the one shot kills with the shotgun. i do like the fact that the lancer seems to be a bit more effective. Annex is fun but not with a bunch of whinny people who keep saying "get in the **** ring!" over and over

Tat2
04-10-2007, 08:29 AM
R6V DLC street date and cost announced

April 9, 2007 - Instead of searching for Easter Eggs or drinking Bloody Marys on Good Friday last week, IGN spent time killing terrorists in the upcoming Rainbow Six Vegas Player's Pack Red Edition. We've got nothing against a day off, but when it comes to playing new maps and modes in Rainbow Six Vegas, we're there.

For those not unfamiliar with the Player's Red Pack Edition, Ubisoft is following tradition by giving gamers more to play on their Xbox 360s than just a single retail copy. This new downloadable content, the "Red Edition," includes two new multiplayer modes and five new maps, and is solely downloadable via Xbox Live on Thursday, April 18 for less than 1,000 Microsoft Points (about $10).

The two new modes are Assassination mode and Total Conquest (a mode most recently revived from Rainbow Six: Black Arrow). The first mode pits two teams against one another, one of which is an escort team trying to deliver a VIP to one of two extraction points, while the other tries to kill the escort and defend the extraction points. While characters on both teams look like militants and mercenaries, the escort himself is a bald, be-speckled business man, armed only with a handgun. He stands out big time. Total Conquest is a team-oriented control point set-up that's similar to a standard Battlefield game. Players vie to control three satellites and win by holding satellites for the most amount of time at the end of the allowed period or by gaining possession of all three satellites for 30 seconds. By calling this new DLC "Red Edition," one must wonder if a "Black Edition" might come (Ubisoft wouldn't comment on it). The new maps are Marshalling Yard, Roof, Doscala Restaurant, Border Town -- Redux, and Killhouse -- Redux.



These powerful guns provide heavy recoil and require a steady hand.We've already covered the basics on the Red Edition in our exclusive reveal, but our recent hands-on unveiled killer details we wouldn't know by just looking at it. Starting with Assassination, Ubisoft's new mode has the potential to be a highly tactical gameplay experience compelling players to handle themselves with care and precision. We could only gather six guys to play simultaneously, but with as many as 16 on-screen, snipers can find sweet rooftop points to force choke points and eliminate the opposition team. This is more crucial than you'd think because, unlike Total Conquest which offers options for re-spawns, Assassination provides only one life per player. Oh yes, indeed. Like Steve Martin used to say, "That's what I'm shooting for; one shot, goodbye!"

Like all MP maps, Assassination works best if you know the map. We played it in the Marshalling Yard, a map that comprises open train yards packed with smartly placed cargo cars, ladders leading to second story snipe points, and a tough-ass shortcut that enables players to rappel right down the middle of the map. The two extraction points in this map are placed in the open train yard relatively close to each other and all extraction points are indicated by flashing yellow flares so they're visible from a good distance. Since we were new to the map and playing defense, we initially just camped by the flares. But that quickly became boring as hell. On three sides of the yard are basic doors and garage openings, so in our first match, we caught the escort team in a choke point at a garage door and used flashbangs to kill off the two escort militants. The VIP, however, quickly caught wind of our defense strategies, knew the map better, and snuck around the opposite side, skirting all three of us and winning the game. Thwarted!

Capture a satellite and then sit in wait.When I joined the VIP team we made it through a good portion of the map until I turned a corner and took a cold hard headshot. Since there are no re-spawns in Assassination, once you're dead, you'll get a seat from the bleachers, i.e. looking at the game from another team mate's perspective. A few minutes later, my cohort was killed off, leaving only the VIP himself. Before I knew it, he burst out into the open and, using his single handgun, blasted the two remaining enemies! Diehard suckers! One last really cool thing about Assassination is that if you do die you can still talk to your cohorts from the dead. That means you can warn them of oncoming enemies. (It can also mean you can harass and annoy them from the dead, which may not be so rich.)

Since Assassination mode didn't capture well on video, we switched to Total Conquest. We began on the Roof Map, which is the least distinctive of the five new maps. The entire map takes place indoors at a coffee factory near the Mexican border. The interiors are dark, the corridors are mostly tight, and the map takes some time to get accustomed to. It's also quite vertical, so once you get to the top of the old rustic building, a big beautiful vista of Mexico appears in the background with reddish brown hues.

Total Conquest mode plays like Battlefield at its core, but the way in which satellite spots are gained is a little more interesting than what we're used to. In previous Rainbow Six games this multiplayer mode was won by holding the most satellites at the end of the allowed time -- or if you gain possession of all three satellites for 30 seconds. To prevent matches from being too short, Ubisoft changed their system to one of cumulative points. Every second a team holds a satellite, it gets 5 points, two satellites get 10 points per second; and all three satellites gives them 25 points per second. With three satellites held, your team gains points extremely quickly, nearly three times as fast as holding only one. The number of points needed to win a match is set before the game starts; for instance, it can be set between 1,000 to 8,000 points. An 8,000 point game is challenging because killing the other team gives you no points, but the excitement is drawn out and the extended time adds another layer of strategy. The key thing about Total Conquest is gaining satellites, not necessarily killing enemies. So dying isn't much of an issue because you'll simply re-spawn and go at it again. Holding satellites is more important than anything.



Is that Sam Fisher's skinny younger brother?The "famous" Italian Doscala Restaurant located on Freemont Street in Las Vegas is a new multiplayer map and it's one of my favorites. There is a good balance between outside and inside environments and the inside areas are harrowing. For instance, I spawned just outside the back door to the restaurant. I picked off an enemy guarding the entrance, and then sniped an enemy hiding inside the door. The door opens to a small hallway that runs perpendicular to the entrance and a glass booth sits inside, from which players can pop up and snipe. Just inside and to the right is a stagger point in the hallway, creating a small corner about five feet long and a cubby spot where a satellite rests. This way, there is just enough room to hide and switch the satellite to your side. But it's still an open spot with little room to escape if someone throws a grenade your way. And since the grenades in Rainbow Six Vegas are so quiet, well, it's best to keep moving! A little further inside is an opening to the kitchen, filled with several long waist-high cutting and prep tables and all sorts of knives, hanging pots, and moving objects. The kitchen is a real obstacle course that's guaranteed to provide serious fun.

Chalk up one more for the good guys.Then there are the last two maps, Border Town - Redux and Killhouse - Redux. Border Town is based in the city of San Joshua Mosquiera, a small village where crime and gang violence have overrun the place. Here, the map is essentially a small square with houses and porches and such along the perimeter, car-strewn streets inside them, and a church planted in the center that can be climbed using ladders. Up top, the roof of the church is perfectly designed with a wall to prevent instant kills at the top of the ladder, a large dome in the center to prevent long-shot snipes, and the satellite at the end with two bell towers on each side to hide in. My first visit to the top featured a sneak grenade toss that blew me into chunks, and my second visit included me gutting a few enemies in vengeance. This is a great map, and though it's rather smallish, it's nothing like the free Crash Site map in Gears of War, which is just a mad rush of death. It's a good, solid map. Killhouse - Redux, however is a remake of a level from the single-player campaign of Vegas, but it's also a remake of a legacy map. I'm not sure, but I think this map is actually a remake of the original Rainbow Six games, perhaps the first. This is a symmetrical, vertical map three stories high that leads players through the middle, which is riskier but more satisfying (if you succeed), or around the outside. It's a tough, crowded set of hallways and it's super fun with the right guns (i.e. shoguns and short-burst machine guns).

In all, the new maps and modes make the perfect addition to a title that's still one of the very best titles on Xbox 360. While everyone is still playing Gears or War online (for some strange reason), come April 18, Rainbow fans will be sniping from the grungy, beautiful maps of Las Vegas and Mexico. The maps aren't free, but given the two new modes and five maps, and all the options they bring, they're well worth the price.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/779/779303p2.html

Lord Magneto
04-10-2007, 08:53 AM
ohh man... i cant wait for those r6v maps... haha was running achievement matches lastnight...

SpankedEagle
04-10-2007, 09:12 AM
Halo 3 Beta: May 16
Bungie finally announces when we'll get some multiplayer Master Chief action.
by Rob Burman, IGN UK


UK, April 10, 2007 - Bungie and Microsoft have announced that the Halo 3 multiplayer beta will be gunning for Xbox Live on May 16, with three all-new maps and fresh vehicles to try out.

From 1pm (GMT) on May 16 any Xbox 360 owners who managed to secure their admission to the beta, either after buying a special copy of Crackdown or through the Rule of Three promotion, can don their Spartan helmet and get ready for some full-on Halo 3 action. The beta lasts until June 7.

Once downloaded players can sample three different maps - Snowbound, High Ground and Valhalla - which represent a mixture of large and medium scale combat environments. Previously these maps have only been demoed to journalists by Bungie, so there's no chance you'll be unfairly gunned down by someone who knows the battlefield better.

In addition to the maps several new vehicles are available in the demo, including the Mongoose all-terrain vehicle, as well as brand-new weapons like the improved Assault Rifle, Brute Spiker, Spartan Laser and Spike Grenades.

For those without a Gold Live account, which is needed to play the multiplayer beta, you can take solace in special behind-the-scenes videos that are now available on Bungie's website.

If you want to take part in the beta and haven't enlisted already, special copies of Crackdown, which include the beta key, are available until May 16. They're easily recognised by the handy sticker on the front of the box.

PrimeBane
04-10-2007, 09:35 AM
Can't wait to give Halo 3 a test run :D

Hopefully it's not super glitchy.

Lord Magneto
04-10-2007, 10:21 AM
Halo 3 Beta: May 16
Bungie finally announces when we'll get some multiplayer Master Chief action.
by Rob Burman, IGN UK


UK, April 10, 2007 - Bungie and Microsoft have announced that the Halo 3 multiplayer beta will be gunning for Xbox Live on May 16, with three all-new maps and fresh vehicles to try out.

From 1pm (GMT) on May 16 any Xbox 360 owners who managed to secure their admission to the beta, either after buying a special copy of Crackdown or through the Rule of Three promotion, can don their Spartan helmet and get ready for some full-on Halo 3 action. The beta lasts until June 7.

Once downloaded players can sample three different maps - Snowbound, High Ground and Valhalla - which represent a mixture of large and medium scale combat environments. Previously these maps have only been demoed to journalists by Bungie, so there's no chance you'll be unfairly gunned down by someone who knows the battlefield better.

In addition to the maps several new vehicles are available in the demo, including the Mongoose all-terrain vehicle, as well as brand-new weapons like the improved Assault Rifle, Brute Spiker, Spartan Laser and Spike Grenades.

For those without a Gold Live account, which is needed to play the multiplayer beta, you can take solace in special behind-the-scenes videos that are now available on Bungie's website.

If you want to take part in the beta and haven't enlisted already, special copies of Crackdown, which include the beta key, are available until May 16. They're easily recognised by the handy sticker on the front of the box.


Best news ive heard all day.... kinda sad its only available for less then a month.... but im very happy i bought crackdown... i might be playing some halo2 tonight haha

pyrrhonist
04-10-2007, 10:52 AM
UK, April 10, 2007 - Bungie and Microsoft have announced that the Halo 3 multiplayer beta will be gunning for Xbox Live on May 16, with three all-new maps and fresh vehicles to try out.

Now there's some news! I cannot wait to try out the Halo 3 beta, especially since the R6 content took forever to come out, and Gears of War is a game that has run its course for me. I need to check out that documentary video.

PrimeBane
04-10-2007, 11:06 AM
You mean we're not getting together to try out Annex this week? :( Or at least when you get your 360 back?

Lord Magneto
04-10-2007, 12:16 PM
so is the mysterious x button for halo the new defense bubble thing or the landmine?

oaktown2000
04-10-2007, 12:28 PM
i had that problem last night well sorta i kept sliding to each wall while tring to run the thing that was pissing me off last night was the run up and shoot you with a shotgun and the one shot kills with the shotgun. i do like the fact that the lancer seems to be a bit more effective. Annex is fun but not with a bunch of whinny people who keep saying "get in the **** ring!" over and over


Hey man...about last night when you briefly jumped in...sorry about that. Chugga and I were just going 1v1 in the new Annex mode and since we were both on different sides...we opened private chat so we could talk smack while killing each other. Chugga had said he invited way back when we first got on and you didn't join till literally an hour or two later. Which by the way...you scared the crap outta me when you showed up....cause I had just killed chugga...and like 1 second later...i see you running up from behind and at first I thought it was chugga. Sooooo......if you were trying to chat with us and didn't get a response...that's why. We were hoping more would be on....but there wasn't. Hey....at least we weren't yelling "get in the **** ring1" over and over at you.

avsfan21
04-10-2007, 12:39 PM
I will try to play some gears tonight if anyone else is up for some matches.

oaktown2000
04-10-2007, 12:41 PM
A 2v2 on the annex mode would be perfect.....I think 4v4 would be too much....but 2v2 would provide a little more strategy.

PrimeBane
04-10-2007, 12:49 PM
I should be game for Annex tonight. :)

Chugga
04-10-2007, 01:57 PM
I thought annex had the possibility of being real fun with a few more people. Like oaktown said something like 2 on 2 or MAYBE 3 on 3. 4 on 4 would just be messy and kamikazee missions. We had a bunch of really close games last night....I won by 10 points once, oaktown won by 11 once.

I thought the funnest part was taking a node then completely running away from it and taking a defensive position. A couple of times I took a node then stood no where near it and just sniped. And a couple of times oaktown would take a node and then laugh at me for missing and saying he was going to give me a moving target and I'd pop his head right off. I know he's at work right now and he's probably still a little bit impressed with 1 of the shots I made. I never thought a game masters head could fly so far off.

avsfan21
04-10-2007, 02:23 PM
Just finished the Fighters Guild quest line. Now all I have left is to finish off the main story quest line.

oaktown2000
04-10-2007, 02:50 PM
I know he's at work right now and he's probably still a little bit impressed with 1 of the shots I made. I never thought a game masters head could fly so far off.

LOL...I know exactly which shot you speak of. That was an impressive snipe....your awesomeness was in full effect with that shot. But I also remember just running side to side and running in cirlces without taking cover, taunting you, as sniper shot after sniper shot went by, with little barbs like "good one", "boy that was close", "nice shot", "should I just stand still".

But yeah...a 2v2 on annex could make for some really fun games.

Chugga
04-10-2007, 03:53 PM
Well a couple of times it made more sense for me to just sit back and have fun sniping because you'd get the node with like 11 ticks left and there was no point what-so-ever for me to try to get down there and get those last 3 ticks to be mine. So I just sat up there shooting you, most of the time aiming for your feet because of the stupid bridge blocking your head.

I really like annex but I did see one major problem with it last night. I was doing stuff I'd NEVER do in a normal gears game. Running directly up to you while your on cover knowing that if you blow me away I have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc chance to have it work. Knowing that you're going to respawn certain changes thing alot. And I'm not sure that new mentality will carry over very well when you've got 4 guys rushing a defense position because they know they'll be coming back.

While we played entirely too many Canals games last night I'd like to give clocktower a go on Annex. imagine being able to take a defensive position on the sniper spawn...that would be amazingly difficult to break through on. Or holding down the grenade spawn all boxed in, or even the boomshot spawn under constant fire.

oaktown2000
04-10-2007, 04:30 PM
Well...I'll be on later tonight....round up two friends, if you have that many, and lets run some 2v2s. We can set it to the first one to win 2 full rounds...and then alternate maps.

LOL...can you imagine the suckiness that would be annex on Raven Down...spawn..boom dead....spawn...boom...dead

Master Windu
04-10-2007, 04:52 PM
I ran in to a few people while playing Annex that thought they had to keep the other team away from the circle and not take it themselves. Needless to say they were doing a great job for not having a clue how to play the game. They still couldn't figure out what to do when we would take a point and why we weren't attacking.

Lord Magneto
04-10-2007, 08:07 PM
crap that wall grab thing is crazy annoying now... ugh...

Master Windu
04-10-2007, 09:12 PM
crap that wall grab thing is crazy annoying now... ugh...

Epic just can't seem to get updates/patches right. Instead of fixing the crab walk glitch and the super jump + the other glitches, they just make the **** harder to do. Then there are the losers that lack the skill to play with honor that will find ways to do the glitches again. Thank god for the power to kick people.

someguy6000
04-10-2007, 10:39 PM
Hey man...about last night when you briefly jumped in...sorry about that. Chugga and I were just going 1v1 in the new Annex mode and since we were both on different sides...we opened private chat so we could talk smack while killing each other. Chugga had said he invited way back when we first got on and you didn't join till literally an hour or two later. Which by the way...you scared the crap outta me when you showed up....cause I had just killed chugga...and like 1 second later...i see you running up from behind and at first I thought it was chugga. Sooooo......if you were trying to chat with us and didn't get a response...that's why. We were hoping more would be on....but there wasn't. Hey....at least we weren't yelling "get in the **** ring1" over and over at you.
no prob when chugga invited me i was in the middle of an annex match myself thats why it took me so long to join

the thing about annex i didn't even realize how much time had acutally passed.

i figured if it was just you two i would bail and let you guys finish the last round.

someguy6000
04-10-2007, 10:44 PM
I ran in to a few people while playing Annex that thought they had to keep the other team away from the circle and not take it themselves. Needless to say they were doing a great job for not having a clue how to play the game. They still couldn't figure out what to do when we would take a point and why we weren't attacking.
i had the same problem last night kinda funny i just went off on my own to kill and be killed.

CJF28
04-10-2007, 11:08 PM
Good deal for me tonite. Needed a new 360

I got:
System and wires
2 wired controllers
20GB HDD
Madden 07
FIFA 06
FIFA 07
Fight Night Round 3
Ghost Recon
Gears of War
Project Gotham Racing
Godfather: the game
Hitman, Blood Money
Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks (xbox game)

all for $300

and a friend owed me money, so he got me Guitar Hero2 to settle up

whew. time to catch up

cory

PrimeBane
04-10-2007, 11:17 PM
Nice deal... good to see you're back in the game (so to speak) Cory. :)

PrimeBane
04-10-2007, 11:25 PM
GH2 songs coming soon...

The first batch of downloadable songs for the Xbox 360 version of Guitar Hero 2, will feature 8 songs from the first game. Those songs? :

Motorhead - Ace Of Spades
Ozzy Osbourne - Bark at The Moon
The Exies - Hey You
Edgar Winter Group - Frankenstein
Queen - Killer Queen
The Donnas - Take It Off
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Higher Ground
Bad Religion - Infected
Incubus - Stellar

Whether or not all 8 make it up at the same time is still being set up, the packs will retail for ~150 points a piece, but rumors of tiered packs are out there.

http://www.harmonixfans.com/

CJF28
04-10-2007, 11:26 PM
cant wait

avsfan21
04-10-2007, 11:28 PM
Nice to see you back playing again Cory.

someguy6000
04-10-2007, 11:36 PM
GH2 songs coming soon...

The first batch of downloadable songs for the Xbox 360 version of Guitar Hero 2, will feature 8 songs from the first game. Those songs? :

Motorhead - Ace Of Spades
Ozzy Osbourne - Bark at The Moon
The Exies - Hey You
Edgar Winter Group - Frankenstein
Queen - Killer Queen
The Donnas - Take It Off
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Higher Ground
Bad Religion - Infected
Incubus - Stellar

Whether or not all 8 make it up at the same time is still being set up, the packs will retail for ~150 points a piece, but rumors of tiered packs are out there.

http://www.harmonixfans.com/
ahh the reason i need to buy GH2 for the xbox (have it for ps2 already and not that i needed much reason)

CJF28
04-11-2007, 12:09 AM
Nice to see you back playing again Cory.

thanks. I was kind aworried, since it was a launch box. but I played for about an hour, with no problems. My wrists are sore from about 5 songs on GH2. And I thought masturbation would keep me in shape, when I was without a gameing system............

avsfan21
04-11-2007, 12:10 AM
I am still on the ropes about picking up GH2 or MUA.

CJF28
04-11-2007, 12:18 AM
GH2, since Im betting MUA will go down in price soon, or can even be picked up used at a game store or pawnshop

someguy6000
04-11-2007, 02:05 AM
ok the craziest thing happened on Gears i was trying to finish Act 2 on insane. i've been stuck on the driving part for awhile so i gave it another try tonight. i get almost to the end with most of my health. but the last kryll raid i totally lost it had about 2 or 3 kryll swarming me and i eventually blew up and as i was saying "***" outloud. i heard the checkpoint chime and i bam next chapter. what the hell happned?

pyrrhonist
04-11-2007, 06:05 AM
You mean we're not getting together to try out Annex this week? :( Or at least when you get your 360 back?

As you probably now know from our messages back & forth last night, Scott, I won't be getting my system back anytime soon. I just got my damn return box yesterday, and I'm hitting up the UPS station after work. I might be lucky to have it back by end of next week, considering it took 4 business days to get the return box to me.

TheRedOx
04-11-2007, 06:59 AM
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/04/11/gh-ii-song-packs-3-of-em.aspx

Name: Guitar Hero Track Pack 1
Price: 500 Points
Availability: Not available in Asia
Dash Details: Bark at the Moon as made famous by Ozzy Osbourne, Hey You as made famous by The Exies, Ace of Spades as made famous by Motorhead, For all song credits please visit www.redoctane.com.

Name: Guitar Hero Track Pack 2
Price: 500 Points
Availability: Not available in Asia
Dash Details: Killer Queen as made famous by Queen, Take it Off as made famous by The Donnas, Frankenstein as made famous by The Edgar Winter Group, For all song credits please visit www.redoctane.com.

Name: Guitar Hero Track Pack 3
Price: 500 Points
Availability: Not available in Asia
Dash Details: Higher Ground as made famous by Red Hot Chili Peppers, Infected as made famous by Bad Religon, Stellar as made famous by Incubus, For all song credits please visit www.redoctane.com.


Sorry, but that's ridiculous - 500 points for 3 songs.

Smbdyfnkillme
04-11-2007, 07:24 AM
Sorry, but that's ridiculous - 500 points for 3 songs.

They only had those licenses for the first Guitar Hero. They had to relicense every song all over again in order to release them on Xbox Live. I can understand the price, but I wouldn't pay it.

Tat2
04-11-2007, 08:02 AM
As you probably now know from our messages back & forth last night, Scott, I won't be getting my system back anytime soon. I just got my damn return box yesterday, and I'm hitting up the UPS station after work. I might be lucky to have it back by end of next week, considering it took 4 business days to get the return box to me.

trust me, Dave, you've already weathered the hardest part. Now that you've got the coffin, you can send it off and get a tracking number. Then they will email you with a new tracking number when it's sent back. Assuming it's a similar issue as with mine, it was only a 1 day repair and then shipped back to me the next day. after I sent it off it was about 7 days turnaround which is pretty quick IMO

PrimeBane
04-11-2007, 09:22 AM
Yeah, sorry it crapped out on you last night Dave... hopefully it's a quick turn around time for you.

pyrrhonist
04-11-2007, 10:52 AM
trust me, Dave, you've already weathered the hardest part. Now that you've got the coffin, you can send it off and get a tracking number. Then they will email you with a new tracking number when it's sent back. Assuming it's a similar issue as with mine, it was only a 1 day repair and then shipped back to me the next day. after I sent it off it was about 7 days turnaround which is pretty quick IMO

I gave my system one more shot (for old-times' sake) last night, and it started to play the game (NHL2K7), but did the terrible "dirty disc" crap, like usual. Oh well.

I am hoping that the DVD-drive is the culprit, and they just put a new one in. I was concerned with the return label, because you place it right over the old one. Where in the Hades do they get the return address from? :D My biggest concern (aside from timeframe) is the signing for it when it comes back. I just hope that UPS continues to ship later in the day for me, because I don't get home sometimes until 5pm PST.

Tat2
04-11-2007, 01:12 PM
I gave my system one more shot (for old-times' sake) last night, and it started to play the game (NHL2K7), but did the terrible "dirty disc" crap, like usual. Oh well.

I am hoping that the DVD-drive is the culprit, and they just put a new one in. I was concerned with the return label, because you place it right over the old one. Where in the Hades do they get the return address from? :D My biggest concern (aside from timeframe) is the signing for it when it comes back. I just hope that UPS continues to ship later in the day for me, because I don't get home sometimes until 5pm PST.

Did you ever register your console on xbox.com?
I wondered the same thing... how do they know where to ship it back? Then I remembered I registered my console and it's there with my email address. If you haven't registered your console, I would do so now. I think all you need is your 12-digit console number/serial number on the back.

My UPS store took mine the day I dropped it off at about 5:45 pm and the tracking number indicated it went to the sorting facility about an hour later and was on a plane to TX by 2:35 am the next morning.

MPCanes
04-11-2007, 01:15 PM
Boom Boom Rocket went up today, anyone try it? I'm gonna give the trial a whirl and if its any good I'll probably snap it up.

Gotta spend my free 1600 points somehow...

oaktown2000
04-12-2007, 10:59 AM
what happened here???

Lord Magneto
04-12-2007, 11:03 AM
downloaded the demo of boom boom... might have to try it with my DDR pad... haha i bought DDR for my gf and i to use to work out...haha i think we've used it twice haha

CJF28
04-12-2007, 11:04 AM
Last night reminded me why I missed my 360, but not gears of war. that game is so damn frusturating, and now its even worse with the update. Annex coupled with the new sticky makes it worse than ever. Everyone has to rodeo to the control site, so you stick to everything.

Inthe canals, I shot Chugga and got control of the site. VINNY was on the other side of the bags, revviing his chainsaw. I shot him with the shotgun twice, and he just walked around the sandbags, never dropping down his chainsaw, and walked right up to me and sawed me in two. That was enough. sorry for ditching everyone. but Im sure my teammates were tired of hearing me *****ing.

someguy6000
04-12-2007, 11:04 AM
what happened here???
what happened where?

CJF28
04-12-2007, 11:10 AM
Im sure he is refering to the fact that no one has posted in almost 24 hours

PrimeBane
04-12-2007, 11:31 AM
Damn... sorry I missed a round of Gears even if it did suck. :(

For those that play Guitar Hero 2, it is better to strum or just press down on the "whatever the hell you call it" part of the controller when playing?

Gooker1
04-12-2007, 11:37 AM
press down for the easy ones, and press down and pull up for the fast sections

Lord Magneto
04-12-2007, 11:40 AM
cool ...the new tiger woods game you will beable to map your face into the game... similar to r6v
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/779/779771p1.html

someguy6000
04-12-2007, 10:18 PM
cool ...the new tiger woods game you will beable to map your face into the game... similar to r6v
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/779/779771p1.html
i still can't get my face on R6V

someguy6000
04-12-2007, 10:19 PM
Last night reminded me why I missed my 360, but not gears of war. that game is so damn frusturating, and now its even worse with the update. Annex coupled with the new sticky makes it worse than ever. Everyone has to rodeo to the control site, so you stick to everything.

Inthe canals, I shot Chugga and got control of the site. VINNY was on the other side of the bags, revviing his chainsaw. I shot him with the shotgun twice, and he just walked around the sandbags, never dropping down his chainsaw, and walked right up to me and sawed me in two. That was enough. sorry for ditching everyone. but Im sure my teammates were tired of hearing me *****ing.
i've noticed the samething and i understand giving the other weapons a little more power but why the shotgun it was already annyoing enough.

Oiler_Fan
04-13-2007, 01:11 AM
I bought Guitar Hero II yesterday.

It is without a doubt the coolest game ever!

I started playing at around 8:00 pm last night and by 11:00 I had the game beat on easy level. Now I'm going through medium. I can't how much tougher it is just adding that 4th fret. My liitle finger wants to drag all the rest with it when it goes for that blue note. I'm going to have to do some kind of finger excercises I guess :)

I got a couple of encores...one was Shout At The Devil by the Crue and the second one was Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You, Tonight by Spinal Tap. Cool surprise at the end of the Spinal Tap song.

I love this game!

someguy6000
04-13-2007, 01:13 AM
pretty sweet game remember the easiest acheivement is turning down a encore or failing a song on easy. i guess when you have to breakdown 1000 pts why not have some fun.

Oiler_Fan
04-13-2007, 01:18 AM
pretty sweet game remember the easiest acheivement is turning down a encore or failing a song on easy. i guess when you have to breakdown 1000 pts why not have some fun.

Yup. I failed my very first song on easy. Didn't bother reading the instructions because I was too pumped to play. I wasn't strumming correctly at all :o

Once I figured that out..whoo hooo!!!

I love playing that song by Rancid...fun...

someguy6000
04-13-2007, 01:24 AM
once you get a chance try the unlockable song thunderhorse (it's in the "store") that song is fun as hell IMO

PrimeBane
04-13-2007, 01:26 AM
I'm hoping to finish easy this weekend... but I have to do it with 5 stars on each song :)

I don't think my hands were made for medium or higher difficulties. :(

PrimeBane
04-13-2007, 01:27 AM
Gears was a total blast tonight... there's still a few frustrating moments, but the respawns certainly help tone them down.

And those chainsaw congalines are always a blast. :D

someguy6000
04-13-2007, 02:39 AM
I had fun didn't really like the vacum chainsaw i experienced but oh well. and PB the medium gets easier eventually unless you have short midget fingers then it might be a problem:D

supertim
04-13-2007, 06:29 AM
Was something up with XBOX LIVE yesterday? I tried downloading some new game demos and kept getting an error message basically saying (not verbatim) that the file couldn't be downloaded. I went to System; Network Settings and did a Connection Test...everything passed. Didn't try to play online to test it out, though.

PrimeBane
04-13-2007, 03:51 PM
GeOW Annex tonight gents?

Lord Magneto
04-13-2007, 03:57 PM
GeOW Annex tonight gents?

I'll be on later tonight...i have 1/4 left in my bottle of jack and a half a bottle of coke so i will be up for some chainsaw action

giantSFortyniners
04-13-2007, 03:58 PM
ill be on late nite if anything...after 10 ish west coast

SpankedEagle
04-13-2007, 04:06 PM
hey guys lately I havent been on, because ive been trying to avoid the oblivion bug =/. and starting april 22 I prob wont be on for a month or more, call me a kid but I cant wait for pokemon diamond and pearl, thats gonna be my time suck.

avsfan21
04-13-2007, 05:23 PM
If anyone else is up for some GoW tonight I am game. I had to get up early today so I missed out on last nights fun. Thank god for the weekend.

someguy6000
04-13-2007, 06:45 PM
i'll but up for some after hockey

avsfan21
04-13-2007, 06:47 PM
Nothing like getting my butt kicked by you guys. Wed night was the first time I have played in a while. I still suck.

someguy6000
04-13-2007, 06:55 PM
how many of you guys finished your achievments for gears?

avsfan21
04-13-2007, 07:19 PM
i'll but up for some after hockey

Hockey? Why no one important is playing :p:D

Oiler_Fan
04-13-2007, 07:29 PM
once you get a chance try the unlockable song thunderhorse (it's in the "store") that song is fun as hell IMO

Will do...

XSsoCX
04-13-2007, 08:23 PM
Ill play gears tonight. I had a good time last night.

Lord Magneto
04-13-2007, 09:03 PM
ugh forgot to charge my rechargable batteries the last time they died...ugh no games for me tonight...

someguy6000
04-13-2007, 09:18 PM
Hockey? Why no one important is playing :p:D
just the best team in hockey brother:D :p

XSsoCX
04-13-2007, 10:24 PM
Where is everyone?

Chugga
04-14-2007, 01:21 AM
Where is everyone?

We had a war of nations tonight that you missed. USA vs. Canada the only way we know how. In an Annex Gears of War match.

USA came out victorious after a number of hard fought battles.

XSsoCX
04-14-2007, 01:41 AM
God damn it. I was playing R6V with my sisters boyfriend. Sorry I didnt reply/accept to invites.

PrimeBane
04-14-2007, 01:02 PM
We had a war of nations tonight that you missed. USA vs. Canada the only way we know how. In an Annex Gears of War match.

USA came out victorious after a number of hard fought battles.

Maybe next time we'll present a REAL challege.

And I'm removing sniper rifles next time :p

PrimeBane
04-14-2007, 01:04 PM
God damn it. I was playing R6V with my sisters boyfriend. Sorry I didnt reply/accept to invites.

No worries... Nick was ignoring us too. :p

JaylisJayP
04-14-2007, 04:41 PM
Well, i had to stop playing Guitar Hero today because my wrist is all f--ed up. I was just starting the hard level also, which is insane. I don't know how I'll ever incorporate the orange button in...but maybe it'll be a little easier once i can move my fingers again.

CJF28
04-14-2007, 06:04 PM
I heare ya. My wrist hasnt been this sore since my freshman year of high school

meatgoat
04-14-2007, 06:12 PM
I've already all but given up on GH already. I'm to the point where about 2/3 of the way thru a song my left hand starts cramping big time. It sucks arse to get old. :D

avsfan21
04-14-2007, 07:24 PM
So I missed Gears last night? I was on until about 12:30 and there was like no one on so I just went to bed since I was beat from the work I had to do earlier in the day.

CJF28
04-14-2007, 09:08 PM
so, Im playing GH2 and when I go into the store to buy songs or vidoes, i get a song from Linkin Park playing in the background. And Meatloafs 'I will do anything for love'

are those playable?

CJF28
04-14-2007, 09:10 PM
MSN Messnger now intereacts with Xbox LIVE


Instant Messaging Comes to Xbox 360

Redmond , Washington —Your Xbox LIVE® friends list is about to get a whole lot bigger. Microsoft Corp. today announced the launch of Windows LIVE™ Messenger on Xbox 360™, connecting friends across Xbox 360 consoles, Microsoft® Windows®-based PCs and Windows Mobile®-powered devices.
http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/4B8E3339-4909-4DE0-8BC8-37D70B7448EC/0/ilmNotifyChatDash.jpg
Chat with your friends via Live Messenger.
With this update to Xbox 360, friends and families can easily connect and chat directly from their television using Windows Live Messenger, a network of more than 20 billion relationships and more than 260 million active accounts.
"Xbox LIVE has really become the
largest social network on television."
—Jerry Johnson, Microsoft

Beginning the week of May 7, 2007, the Xbox 360 Spring Update will provide Xbox 360 owners worldwide with access to Windows Live Messenger features, broadening the communication options on the Xbox LIVE social network.
Connected Experiences
Members of the six-million-strong Xbox LIVE community currently send more than two million text and voice messages a day and can now use Windows Live Messenger to text chat with up to six people on their contact list at one time, while playing games, listening to music, or watching movies. Text chat adds to the variety of options friends and families already have to communicate with on Xbox LIVE, including voice and video chat.
Current relationships on Windows Live Messenger and Xbox LIVE will be unified on Xbox 360 and users will see at a glance if their existing friends on Windows Live Messenger have gamertags, instantly expanding the breadth of connected experiences they can share online.
"Bringing the largest IM community in the world, Windows Live Messenger, to Xbox 360 makes sense, as Xbox LIVE has really become the largest social network on television," said Jerry Johnson, product unit manager of Xbox LIVE at Microsoft. "For our growing community of six million on Xbox LIVE, using Xbox 360 is a very social, connected experience. They are using Xbox 360 to play games, music, and movies while simultaneously communicating with one another through video, voice, and text chat. With this announcement we are simultaneously expanding the access of Xbox LIVE users to existing friends and family while introducing Windows Live Messenger users to the benefits of Xbox 360."
http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/197A9EE2-9DA0-45BD-974C-0FEC9FF469CF/0/ilmAchievementNotificatio.jpg
Know instantly which achievement you accomplished.
Beginning the week of May 7, users of Windows Live Messenger on Xbox 360 can text chat using the virtual keyboard accessible on Xbox 360, or by connecting a USB keyboard to the console. This summer Microsoft will launch a QWERTY text-input device, a new accessory that will connect directly into the Xbox 360 controller to support text and instant messaging.
Other New Features
Beyond Windows Live Messenger, the Spring Update for Xbox 360 includes hundreds of new features and enhancements including:

A richer Achievement notification pop-up will showcase the name of the unlocked Achievement and the gamerscore value without needing to leave the game to check the Achievements list.
Enhanced family settings features for Xbox LIVE communications enable different defaults for video chat and voice chat.
A new Xbox LIVE Marketplace blade lets Xbox LIVE members access the content they seek—whether it is game content or TV shows and movies (available in the United States)—from one place on Xbox LIVE.
Updates to Xbox LIVE Arcade allow owners to quickly see which Xbox LIVE Arcade games their friends are playing and join in the fun. Xbox LIVE members can also compare progress of leaderboard scores and Achievements directly with all friends on their friends list. Expanded "Tell a Friend" capabilities make it easier than ever to boast about Achievements and high scores.
Expanded "Tell a Friend" capabilities make it easier than ever to boast about Achievements and high scores.
A new option in Auto Downloads provides faster access to the entire collection of free, trial-version Xbox LIVE Arcade games.
New progressive download controls provide easy access to optimal viewing options by letting people fast-forward, rewind, pause and resume as their video is downloaded from Xbox LIVE Marketplace.
Extension of the background download functionality will allow owners to set their Xbox 360 console to turn off automatically after downloads are complete.The Spring Update is free beginning the week of May 7 and will be easily accessible to every Xbox 360 owner through Xbox LIVE or on Xbox.com.
You may not even notice all the new features, but they are all designed to enhance your Xbox LIVE experience. Some of the other features in this upgrade include:

The name of game in tray is now displayed in the dashboard.
When the user is in the dashboard and an Xbox 360 game is in the console then the name of the game is displayed in the tray icon of the dashboard. If the user highlights the tray icon then achievements and gamer score are displayed for that game based on the signed in user. Xbox1 games show the name and image of the game.
Integrated support for the new Xbox 360 text input device. Note that this device includes a new wired headset.
Playback progress bar indicates download completion.
Switchable aspect ratio now available during video playback (Auto to Letterbox, Zoom, Stretch, Native).
Player and friends lists now quickly show session presence information for quick identification of users that are joinable.
Added H.264 video support: Up to 10 Mbps peak, Baseline, Main, and High profiles with 2 channel AAC LC.
Added MPEG-4 Part 2 video support: Up to 5 Mbps peak, Simple Profile with 2 channel AAC LC.
Show folder hierarchy for video content played from all devices.
Bookmarks are stored for each video that the user plays remembering the users last location in the file as well as the aspect ratio that the user choose for that file.
Video trick modes (fast forward, rewind, chapter skip) can now be used while downloading Video Marketplace content.
Skip forward and backward functionality has been improved to skip to the next or previous chapter. Each video is divided into 10 “chapters” allowing you to quickly skip around video content.
The information bar that is turned on via the On Screen Display (OSD) now shows you exactly where you are in the playback of the video file. In addition it will also show for Video Marketplace content how much of the file has been downloaded and where the “chapters” exist in the file.
Windows Media protected content (WM-DRM) can now be streamed from the PC to the console. If the WM-DRM license is missing or corrupted then a specific error message is displayed to the user. Bookmarking is also stored for protected content.
When a user selects an item for download from Marketplace then the system will determine if there is sufficient disk space for the item and, if not, will ask the user to delete content on the HDD. The system provides a sorted by size list of videos, game trailers, demos and arcade content to aid the user in the deletion process. The same list of items are also available from within memory so that users can quickly see which items are consuming the most disk space.
The console will block the user who attempts to download content onto a storage device that will never have the capacity to store the item without deducting any points associated with the content item.
The screensaver is disabled when playing photos from any source

CJF28
04-14-2007, 09:11 PM
I like how it says its free for the week of May 7th. I wonder what they figure they can charge for it? Without a keyboard hooked up, I wouldnt waste my time IMing someone from my 360

Tat2
04-14-2007, 09:23 PM
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/778/778961/spring-update-dummy-story-20070408071246775-000.jpg

Tat2
04-14-2007, 09:26 PM
No worries... Nick was ignoring us too. :p

actually, i wasn't intentionally. i was knee deep in R6V and forgot to message back to tell you that I didn't have GoW anymore :(

Therman Merman
04-15-2007, 11:16 AM
Excuse me fellas, got a quick question. I will be purchasing a 360 next week, but I don't have an HDTV. (Hopefully that will change sooner than later) But my question is, is there still a huge difference in graphics from current-gen XBox to the 360 even if it's on a non HDTV? Obviously it won't look as sharp, (I'm not an idiot) but will I be at all disappointed?

Oh, and one other question. Does it make any sense to purchase a 1080p and spend the extra money, even though no one broadcasts in that resolution? (And won't be for quite some time) Or should I just save the money, and get a nice 720p? And what about 1080i?

Thanks so much in advance for your help.

PrimeBane
04-15-2007, 11:24 AM
Oh, and one other question. Does it make any sense to purchase a 1080p and spend the extra money, even though no one broadcasts in that resolution? (And won't be for quite some time) Or should I just save the money, and get a nice 720p? And what about 1080i?



1080p tends to get overhyped... unless you plan on getting a tv larger than 50" and plan to sit close enough to it to take full advantage of 1080p, I probably wouldn't bother. Even the difference between 1080i and 1080p can be pretty small on most signals... sports and fast scenes in movies probably won't look as good on 1080i.

However, by the fall there should be some very good prices on 1080p tvs... worst comes to worst, buy one from a place with a 30 day return policy and test drive it for a bit.

CJF28
04-15-2007, 11:30 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/cjf28/HPIM0115.jpg

pyrrhonist
04-15-2007, 11:33 AM
Mini squares!! :D

It's funny you should post that pic, Cory, because I was looking at the Spidey 3 toys again the other night at Target. It's amazing how there is no Venom stuff in any of the sections. Venom is going to be the hot "new" (If you consider 20 years old new) villain of the year. Good old movies, eh?

CJF28
04-15-2007, 12:04 PM
tons of venom stuff around here. Funny thing is, the little 3 inch guy above looks a helluva lotbetter than the 6 inch figures

someguy6000
04-15-2007, 12:53 PM
1080p tends to get overhyped... unless you plan on getting a tv larger than 50" and plan to sit close enough to it to take full advantage of 1080p, I probably wouldn't bother. Even the difference between 1080i and 1080p can be pretty small on most signals... sports and fast scenes in movies probably won't look as good on 1080i.

However, by the fall there should be some very good prices on 1080p tvs... worst comes to worst, buy one from a place with a 30 day return policy and test drive it for a bit.
dumb question what is the difference between 1080i and 1080p?

PrimeBane
04-15-2007, 12:55 PM
1080i refeshes half the screen at a time where 1080p refeshes the entire screen.

Therman Merman
04-15-2007, 01:21 PM
Excuse me fellas, got a quick question. I will be purchasing a 360 next week, but I don't have an HDTV. (Hopefully that will change sooner than later) But my question is, is there still a huge difference in graphics from current-gen XBox to the 360 even if it's on a non HDTV? Obviously it won't look as sharp, (I'm not an idiot) but will I be at all disappointed?

Oh, and one other question. Does it make any sense to purchase a 1080p and spend the extra money, even though no one broadcasts in that resolution? (And won't be for quite some time) Or should I just save the money, and get a nice 720p? And what about 1080i?

Thanks so much in advance for your help.

1080p tends to get overhyped... unless you plan on getting a tv larger than 50" and plan to sit close enough to it to take full advantage of 1080p, I probably wouldn't bother. Even the difference between 1080i and 1080p can be pretty small on most signals... sports and fast scenes in movies probably won't look as good on 1080i.

However, by the fall there should be some very good prices on 1080p tvs... worst comes to worst, buy one from a place with a 30 day return policy and test drive it for a bit.Thanks for your help PrimeBane.

I guess my main problem is sort of a double edged sword. On one hand, I don't want to buy a 1080p, and spend all that extra money, to not enjoy a MUCH better picture, because as you said, it's probably not worth it unless it's at least 50", which is Big Bucks!

But on the other hand, I don't want to buy a 720p, and then be annoyed because the technology is quickly antiquated. Everything I've read about networks broadcating in 1080p basically claim that it will not happen for quite some time due to bandwith costs. But whose to say that 3 years from now someone dosen't come forward with a cheap way to do it, and then suddenly EVERYBODY is broadcasting in 1080p, and I'm stuck with my 720p. I realize that when dealing with electronics, something better will always come along. But 7-8 years is tolerable, 3-4 is not. Especially when the TV's cost so much.

You did mention that by the fall, we'll see some decent prices on 1080ps. Any specific reason for that? Just curious.

Ahhhhh! Why does this have to be such a difficult decision?:confused::(

Lord Magneto
04-15-2007, 01:30 PM
man gow ranked games are starting to remind me of halo2 ranked games... as soon as your team starts losing someone leaves... so friggin annoying... haha im finally going for some achievments for gow...

Lord Magneto
04-15-2007, 01:33 PM
Therman... you can def get some 1080p tvs for under 2k... its just going to take some looking... my buddy bought a westinghouse 42inch lcd 1080p tv a few months ago for around $1500... i own a 46" samsun lcd 1080p... my thinking is if you're gonna spend all that money you might as well get the best technology you can get... cuz 2 yrs from now there will be something better then 1080p... but atleast in 2 yrs more stuff will be in 1080p

PrimeBane
04-15-2007, 01:36 PM
You did mention that by the fall, we'll see some decent prices on 1080ps. Any specific reason for that? Just curious.

Ahhhhh! Why does this have to be such a difficult decision?:confused::(

Trends... new models are just coming out now. We'll probably see the first pricedrops sometime in the summer with a second in the fall before the Christmas season. Another normally occurs around superbowl time.

I have a 768p plasma tv... the picture is just awesome!

If you decide you don't need 1080p, there are some KILLER deals on last years models right now (720p, 768p 1080i)

Lord Magneto
04-15-2007, 01:37 PM
anyone have BattleField2 that their looking to offload

Therman Merman
04-15-2007, 02:11 PM
Thanks for your help guys. LordMagneto, I definitely think along your lines as well, cause few things piss me off more than antiquated technology. Especially when it happens in such a short period of time.

Where did your friend get his Westinghouse from? Are tv's like everything else, as in, do you pay for the name? (Sony, Panasonic, Samsung etc...) Or do you get what you pay for?

BTW- Sorry for turning this into a HDTV info thread, but I do appreciate the help.

JaylisJayP
04-15-2007, 02:19 PM
Thanks for your help PrimeBane.

I guess my main problem is sort of a double edged sword. On one hand, I don't want to buy a 1080p, and spend all that extra money, to not enjoy a MUCH better picture, because as you said, it's probably not worth it unless it's at least 50", which is Big Bucks!

But on the other hand, I don't want to buy a 720p, and then be annoyed because the technology is quickly antiquated. Everything I've read about networks broadcating in 1080p basically claim that it will not happen for quite some time due to bandwith costs. But whose to say that 3 years from now someone dosen't come forward with a cheap way to do it, and then suddenly EVERYBODY is broadcasting in 1080p, and I'm stuck with my 720p. I realize that when dealing with electronics, something better will always come along. But 7-8 years is tolerable, 3-4 is not. Especially when the TV's cost so much.

You did mention that by the fall, we'll see some decent prices on 1080ps. Any specific reason for that? Just curious.

Ahhhhh! Why does this have to be such a difficult decision?:confused::(


Dude, I got my HDTV like 2 years ago now...and it's a 62" DLP Toshiba that is native 720p with 1080i support. Every now and then I think it'd be nice to have 1080p, but if money is an issue....I'd go with size and the 720p over a smaller 1080p set any day of the week. The difference is going to be negligible.

That said, if I were buying a new one now, I'd find the best deal (DTVCity.com is a great place with quality warraties and much cheaper than best buy)...and figure out how to finance the 1080p unit. If you're taking the plunge, you mine as well go all out.

Lord Magneto
04-15-2007, 03:33 PM
Where did your friend get his Westinghouse from? Are tv's like everything else, as in, do you pay for the name? (Sony, Panasonic, Samsung etc...) Or do you get what you pay for?

BTW- Sorry for turning this into a HDTV info thread, but I do appreciate the help.

yea he got his from bestbuy... not sure they still sell that model anymore i think they only sell the 46 now in 1080p but i think its around 1500... i was actually planning on getting the same tv as him... westinghouse is great for lcds... check out the avs forums... or you can do what i did...luck out with a great gf who buys you a big ass tv for xmas ;) i love my bebe

rsoaker23
04-15-2007, 08:21 PM
I went over to Gamestop today to check on the trade in coupons for the Elite system. The girl there had just opened the POP material...she didnt have too much info on it, but was nice enough to give me a coupon...if your interested you might wanna get over to one ASAP..she opened the coupons up and there were only like 3-5 of them...maybe they might be getting more but who knows..

PrimeBane
04-15-2007, 08:35 PM
What's the deal rsoacker23?

rsoaker23
04-15-2007, 08:38 PM
Gamestop is offering a higher trade in value for you xbox 360 if you buy an elite system..its like $250 for your Premium $200 for the Core..but you have to have the coupon i guess..i'll post a link in a second

rsoaker23
04-15-2007, 08:39 PM
http://www.istillplaygames.com/

Oiler_Fan
04-15-2007, 09:26 PM
Has anyone bought and used the HD drive for their 360 yet?

Just wondering how the perforrnace and quality is.

Oiler_Fan
04-15-2007, 09:27 PM
Trends... new models are just coming out now. We'll probably see the first pricedrops sometime in the summer with a second in the fall before the Christmas season. Another normally occurs around superbowl time.

I have a 768p plasma tv... the picture is just awesome!

If you decide you don't need 1080p, there are some KILLER deals on last years models right now (720p, 768p 1080i)

What brand do you have Scott?

jskrap
04-15-2007, 09:45 PM
Anyone have any problems with their 360 after downloading the GH2 update? I've heard some people have.

supertim
04-15-2007, 10:58 PM
http://www.istillplaygames.com/

Went to the website, saw the GameStop coupon for the upgrade to Elite promotion. Is that real? Sounds too good to be true.


Also, if this is legit and I do trade up, how do I get my data off my "old" 360 hard drive and onto the new one? Is this something they can do in-store, or can I re-download via LIVE?

Movie trailers and such, I can live without. Arcade games, my LIVE Gold account, and game save data is another thing altogether.

One other thing...having the PS3 and 360 side by side, I did an experiment. I downloaded similar sized files from PS3 online network and XBOX Live (not simultaneously).

I downloaded a Spidey 3 trailer off PS online (229 MB in 9 minutes) and a 348 MB Halo 3 ViDoc on XBOX Live in 27 minutes. It took PS3 32 minutes to download a 794 MB demo. Damn.

Obviously, PS3 was the tortoise to the 360's hare. Will the Elite be faster when it comes to downloads and such, or will it be the same? Why is the PS3 faster in this regard in the first place? Shouldn't it be comparable?


And yes, both consoles used the same internet connection (10/100 Ethernet, one cable, switched to each console, respectively), downloaded back to back, etcetera.

Thanks for the info, guys.

PrimeBane
04-15-2007, 11:15 PM
Has anyone bought and used the HD drive for their 360 yet?
Just wondering how the perforrnace and quality is.

You bet... had it since November 2006. Most HD movies look pretty spectacular with it.

What brand do you have Scott?

I have the Panasonic Viera TH42PX60U 42" plasma... awesome tv. :D

someguy6000
04-16-2007, 01:49 AM
SUPERTIM
from what i've read you can recover the gold account and the live arcade games off of live about the game saves not sure on that one. the catch with the arcade games is if you've transfered Hard drives you have to be connected to xbox live to play them.

I have seen a "transfer" system for the 360 at best buy you hook it up to your PC and then to the hard drive put it on PC then move them to new Hard drive. haven't a clue on how it works and haven't heard of anyone using one personally. but it does give me an idea...

Tat2
04-16-2007, 02:24 AM
Anyone have any problems with their 360 after downloading the GH2 update? I've heard some people have.

The latest patch for the Xbox 360 version of Guitar Hero II was supposed to alleviate many of the concerns consumers had when they bought the game two weeks ago. But, on the Official Xbox Message Boards (http://forums.xbox.com/2/11717177/ShowPost.aspx#11717177), many users are stating that the patch has made matters even worse, even turning their $400 investment into the world's most expensive brick.

Perhaps as a testament to the 360's durability, it seems that every time the latest game or patch hits there is a numerous outcry from gamers who've suffered the wrath of the red ring of light. Since the patch, many users have been claiming the game will consistently freeze, and upon rebooting either the Dashboard will freeze, or the console won't come on at all, revealing those three fear stricken red lights of death.

Of course, this could just be a vocal minority, but the failure rate of 360s has been extremely high (3rd one here). Is this problem few and far between, or is it a widespread issue? Let us hear your experiences in the comments...


http://www.2old2play.com/News/Red_Octanes_Patch_Bricking_360s_

supertim
04-16-2007, 06:23 AM
SUPERTIM
from what i've read you can recover the gold account and the live arcade games off of live about the game saves not sure on that one. the catch with the arcade games is if you've transfered Hard drives you have to be connected to xbox live to play them.

I have seen a "transfer" system for the 360 at best buy you hook it up to your PC and then to the hard drive put it on PC then move them to new Hard drive. haven't a clue on how it works and haven't heard of anyone using one personally. but it does give me an idea...

Well, I'm hoping that my game saves will fit on my memory card (it's the statndard one, not the half gig one that they ahve now). Probably not, but the PC hookup thing...would that just be via a USB cord - did you see it on the video? Thanks for the input:)

someguy6000
04-16-2007, 08:59 AM
Well, I'm hoping that my game saves will fit on my memory card (it's the statndard one, not the half gig one that they ahve now). Probably not, but the PC hookup thing...would that just be via a USB cord - did you see it on the video? Thanks for the input:)
i didn't see a video. you connected your hard drive to a base which had a usb cord to connect to your PC and you could transfer files back and forth. i don't remember the price. i seen it at my local best buy about a week after i bought my 360.

supertim
04-16-2007, 09:13 AM
i didn't see a video. you connected your hard drive to a base which had a usb cord to connect to your PC and you could transfer files back and forth. i don't remember the price. i seen it at my local best buy about a week after i bought my 360.

Cool, so I could hook it up to my wife's laptop (I have a Mac, so I imagine it may not work if I hook it up to my desktop) via USB & transfer the data, go trade my Premium model for the Elite at Gamestop, and then come home and transfer all my saved data from her PC to the new HDD?

Do you think a regular USB cord could do the job, or would I have to fork over $$$ for the one time usage? Probably the latter, huh?

supertim
04-16-2007, 09:15 AM
Also, has anyone heard if the HDMI port on the Elite will be the identical ends like it is for PS3? If so, I know what HDMI cord I need to grab from monoprice.

I'll see if I can find a pic to make sure.

someguy6000
04-16-2007, 09:21 AM
Cool, so I could hook it up to my wife's laptop (I have a Mac, so I imagine it may not work if I hook it up to my desktop) via USB & transfer the data, go trade my Premium model for the Elite at Gamestop, and then come home and transfer all my saved data from her PC to the new HDD?

Do you think a regular USB cord could do the job, or would I have to fork over $$$ for the one time usage? Probably the latter, huh?
i would go for the latter.

PrimeBane
04-16-2007, 09:28 AM
Also, has anyone heard if the HDMI port on the Elite will be the identical ends like it is for PS3? If so, I know what HDMI cord I need to grab from monoprice.

I'll see if I can find a pic to make sure.

Yes, the ends are the same... I believe any old HDMI cord will do.

Gooker1
04-16-2007, 09:52 AM
Good luck w/ the HDTV purchase. I went ahead and picked the 1080p over the 720p b/c it was only a few hundred more and I knew that I'd get into the 1080p realm sooner or later w/ the PS3's Blu-Ray or even hddvd. It's great to see a lot of hd shows that are broadcasted in 1080i too. Granted, I probably won't be able to tell the difference w/ 720p like most sites mention, but it's also for piece of mind too.

You can find last year's Sharp models for cheaper now as their newer LCDs are just hitting. I think the same goes w/ LG too.

Your cheapest route is to either get last year's model or wait until the holidays. And yes, the holidays will save you a bunch of money. :)

oh, my tv is the Sony KDL 40v2500. I got it for $1900 having best buy match Fry's price. If I would have got it during the Christmas season, it would have cost me $1800. You can't find that price for that TV now, but you probably can once the newer models hit.

It's a fun and nerve racking process, but definitely check out avsforum.com. Amazing resource

CJF28
04-16-2007, 02:04 PM
I beat Chugga so bad at Gears of War last nite, that he started screaming racism

PrimeBane
04-16-2007, 02:07 PM
LOL

Therman Merman
04-16-2007, 02:42 PM
Thanks for all your help regarding the HDTV questions guys. I really appreciate it. But if I could continue to be a pain for a moment and re-ask my original question...


Excuse me fellas, got a quick question. I will be purchasing a 360 later this week, but I don't have an HDTV. (Hopefully that will change sooner than later) But my question is, is there still a huge difference in graphics from current-gen XBox to the 360 even if it's on a non HDTV? Obviously it won't look as sharp, (I'm not an idiot) but will I be at all disappointed?

Thanks again for all the feedback!

Master Windu
04-16-2007, 03:25 PM
Put a gamer infront of a camera and what do you get?? Alot of strange people playing uno and either beating off or topless (Girls and fat guys). I started playing uno over the weekend and out of the 12 player matches, 5 had some kind of nudity.

giantSFortyniners
04-16-2007, 04:19 PM
Thanks for all your help regarding the HDTV questions guys. I really appreciate it. But if I could continue to be a pain for a moment and re-ask my original question...



Thanks again for all the feedback!

i still have a regular tv and the difference is still huge...to me at least...more detailed environments...smoother gameplay. im hoping to get an hdtv within the next couple months...didnt help that my car got broken into last week so i now have to replace the stereo in there.

TastySweetNutz
04-16-2007, 04:44 PM
Thanks for all your help regarding the HDTV questions guys. I really appreciate it. But if I could continue to be a pain for a moment and re-ask my original question...



Thanks again for all the feedback!

There is a considerable difference, but not enough to really ruin your 360 experience. The one thing it did ruin for me was Dead Rising since the text was made for an HDTV. Without an HDTV I couldn't read any of the ingame dialogue, but once I did get my TV all was good. Don't let a lack of an HDTV stop you since many games can be enjoyed w/o one.

Lord Magneto
04-16-2007, 05:45 PM
Put a gamer infront of a camera and what do you get?? Alot of strange people playing uno and either beating off or topless (Girls and fat guys). I started playing uno over the weekend and out of the 12 player matches, 5 had some kind of nudity.

haha damn im gonna have to start playing uno more... maybe i can get my gf to put on a show haha yea riiiiiight...

i was playing once and she came over and gave me a kiss and some guy was like "take it off...take it off"

haha

oaktown2000
04-16-2007, 06:56 PM
We need some games to come out soon!!!!!!

It's pretty pathetic when you only have 3 people playing Gears...so you let the other two go 1 v 1 in Annex mode....and you turn "Team Damage" ON.......and proceed to kill either one of them as they try to cap a control point (but only with a sniper rifle)......and then get accused of being a d!p***** as you kill one guy right before he caps a CP and he now thinks you're killing him more then you are the other guy....



Who am I kidding....it wasn't pathetic...it was fun as hell. I loved seeing chugga and cory run around trying to kill each other...and then *pop*....their explodes from my sniper rifle and I get to hear both of them say "you @hole....I was just about to cap it....now chugga/cory is gonna get to it first" :D

CJF28
04-16-2007, 07:03 PM
thats because your a racist sunova*****

CJF28
04-16-2007, 07:07 PM
I think we developed a new play mode

LOL

oaktown2000
04-16-2007, 08:11 PM
I think we developed a new play mode

LOL


Dead serious.....I had a lot of fun trying to kill both of you. I was hoping the game would cycle to War Machine...so I could get on the turret and unleash hell on both of you :D It adds a new element to it. You just killed your nemesis..you think you got the points all wrapped up and...blam....you're dead. Now both of you have to fight all over again for the CP...and hope I don't kill you again.

CJF28
04-16-2007, 08:16 PM
Im down for another round tonite

PrimeBane
04-16-2007, 08:24 PM
damn... if get home in time I'm down for some of that action. :)

That is if you'll let the lowly Canadian play...

oaktown2000
04-16-2007, 08:31 PM
Im down for another round tonite


I'll be on later 4 sure

oaktown2000
04-16-2007, 08:33 PM
That is if you'll let the lowly Canadian play...


of course we will....................you're an easy kill ;)

PrimeBane
04-16-2007, 08:35 PM
hey :(

someguy6000
04-16-2007, 09:02 PM
there are two things i cannot stand
people who are ignorant of other people's culture
and the dutch.

oaktown2000
04-16-2007, 09:14 PM
there are two things i cannot stand
people who are ignorant of other people's culture
and the dutch.

What about carnies?

XSsoCX
04-16-2007, 09:55 PM
im bored. someone get on Live.

CJF28
04-16-2007, 10:19 PM
im on my way

supertim
04-16-2007, 10:23 PM
there are two things i cannot stand
people who are ignorant of other people's culture
and the dutch.

What about carnies?

"Small hands...smell like cabbage."

CJF28
04-16-2007, 11:44 PM
OK, Lets get a Spawn poker game going

Who all has Texas Hold'em from the LIVE arcade? We can set something up for saturday nite. With a small buyin sent to the winner.

Boardie Tourney:
CJF28

someguy6000
04-16-2007, 11:47 PM
sorry about the lag guys.

CJF28
04-16-2007, 11:50 PM
no prob. But it was pretty bad. In Canals, when I zoomed in with the sniper rifle, it was showing me the grenade arcing

jmcc000
04-16-2007, 11:50 PM
Im in for poker CJF28. Let me know when?
XSsoCX my son finally beat turtles on his 360. If you still want to borrow it shoot me a PM.
Jason

CJF28
04-16-2007, 11:51 PM
[quote=CJF28;6892015]OK, Lets get a Spawn poker game going

Who all has Texas Hold'em from the LIVE arcade? We can set something up for saturday nite. With a small buyin sent to the winner.

Boardie Tourney:
CJF28
jmcc000

Chugga
04-17-2007, 12:16 AM
First of all that new play mode is completely biased. All of a sudden it's cjf and oaktown vs. chugga in a gears of war match and oaktown is like "I'm going to be a casual observer" and just as I'm absolutely owning at holding down a spot (that I would have milked for at least another 30 points) I got shot in the head with the sniper rifle. Then we go to war machine and all oaktown does is stay on the turret the entire match completely making it impossible for me to come out from behind cover without being shot into a billion pieces.

So they laugh it up like this game mode is some great new invention and what do I get? Nothing. Oh and keith your a sneaky bastard and you know it. "ok this time I'm going to shoot at both of you, with no biased, I'll just be like a 3rd team". So what happens at gridlock? I go to the machine gun spawn point and I'm getting sniper shots rained down on me, all active reloads mind you and somehow I manage to survive all of those. Then while I'm ducking and dodging 50 sniper shots cory comes by and shoots me with a shotgun. Now heres the kicker I get caught with a 14 second wait time till I spawn but the game was ever so kind as to give me a perfect camera angle of the machine gun point that I was just dodging shots from. So how many shots does cory have to weather from oaktown (after I just dodged at least 7 shots?) oaktown isn't even shooting at him. Oh and I saw it with my own eyes joketown. Then what happens I spawn go to run to the point and my head pops off before I can even get around the corner. Oh way to be fair and unbiased. You were about as unfair and unbiased as the russian figure skating judges.

CJF28
04-17-2007, 12:18 AM
you were poking your head up. I know you got a big nugget, but you need to keep it down. Like I was obviously doing

thereturnofthefiend5
04-17-2007, 12:19 AM
i got smd vs raw 07 and im lovin it

Chugga
04-17-2007, 12:58 AM
you were poking your head up. I know you got a big nugget, but you need to keep it down. Like I was obviously doing

A sniper can take a persons head off if he's in the sniper tower and the other person is in the machine gun tower. Just enough of your head stays up to take it off.

You keep your head "down" in that area while I have the sniper rifle and I can guarentee you your head will come off. It's how oaktown got me the first time when he was being a "casual observer". You just weren't getting shot at, not that he couldn't hit you.

giantSFortyniners
04-17-2007, 01:13 AM
im down for some poker but it depends on what time on saturday

CJF28
04-17-2007, 08:29 AM
A sniper can take a persons head off if he's in the sniper tower and the other person is in the machine gun tower. Just enough of your head stays up to take it off.

You keep your head "down" in that area while I have the sniper rifle and I can guarentee you your head will come off. It's how oaktown got me the first time when he was being a "casual observer". You just weren't getting shot at, not that he couldn't hit you.


Dont be a hater. I woulda given you a rematch. but, Ill understand if you want to keep ducking me.

supertim
04-17-2007, 08:46 AM
Are the new Halo 2 maps supposed to be available today? I thought I read something somewhere about them being released 4/17/07...anybody else?

Lord Magneto
04-17-2007, 10:06 AM
Are the new Halo 2 maps supposed to be available today? I thought I read something somewhere about them being released 4/17/07...anybody else?
I thought i read that somewhere as well... i wonder if they came up witha new patch that will fix a lot of those guys who used to super jump and all that other crap that annoyed me to no end... i havent played halo in months...it should be a good time.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 10:33 AM
sorry about the lag guys.

You must have been downloading a good bit of porn....because it was really, really bad. I would hit the trigger....I would hear shots from my gun through my audio speakers....the animation that I was shooting would come up......yet no bullet animations nor any blood animations from who I was shooting at. It was literally like my gun wasn't shooting any ammo....just making the sound like it was. And then there was Cog International Ice Skating Team. Your whole team was skating around the map. I know the lag is bad when chugga and I are trying to cap a CP....and we both get the dreaded "Connection Error----Hit "B" to quit" message...yet you (the host) just come running up and shotgun blast both of us while we are frozen in place waiting for the error to disappear.


First of all that new play mode is completely biased. All of a sudden it's cjf and oaktown vs. chugga in a gears of war match and oaktown is like "I'm going to be a casual observer" and just as I'm absolutely owning at holding down a spot (that I would have milked for at least another 30 points) I got shot in the head with the sniper rifle. Then we go to war machine and all oaktown does is stay on the turret the entire match completely making it impossible for me to come out from behind cover without being shot into a billion pieces.

So they laugh it up like this game mode is some great new invention and what do I get? Nothing. Oh and keith your a sneaky bastard and you know it. "ok this time I'm going to shoot at both of you, with no biased, I'll just be like a 3rd team". So what happens at gridlock? I go to the machine gun spawn point and I'm getting sniper shots rained down on me, all active reloads mind you and somehow I manage to survive all of those. Then while I'm ducking and dodging 50 sniper shots cory comes by and shoots me with a shotgun. Now heres the kicker I get caught with a 14 second wait time till I spawn but the game was ever so kind as to give me a perfect camera angle of the machine gun point that I was just dodging shots from. So how many shots does cory have to weather from oaktown (after I just dodged at least 7 shots?) oaktown isn't even shooting at him. Oh and I saw it with my own eyes joketown. Then what happens I spawn go to run to the point and my head pops off before I can even get around the corner. Oh way to be fair and unbiased. You were about as unfair and unbiased as the russian figure skating judges.

LOL. Yes...on the turret...before we initiated the new aspect of team damage....we were just laughing it up at your expense. But I swear to you....everytime I saw Cory out in the open on Gridlock...I shot at him. I know for a fact...that there was at least 3 separate times he would have beaten you to a CP....and I either took his head off or downed him with an active reload...not to mention the times I just randomly killed him. Honestly.......while I probably got you like 10 or 12 times...I probably got Cory 8 or 9 times. And if anyone could complain about getting killed right after they spawn...it would be cory......as I literally took his head off just as he rounded the first corner after spawning. And Cory's right....he ducks down and hides from me....you run in circles inviting me to shoot at you. Your tactics are just begging me to take your head off. There is no bias. I kill every color of the rainbow. I think you're just a tad bit bitter that cory got the better of you and you weren't able to pump enough "awesome" through your connection to make up the difference.

I smell a rematch brewing.

someguy6000
04-17-2007, 11:03 AM
You must have been downloading a good bit of porn....because it was really, really bad. I would hit the trigger....I would hear shots from my gun through my audio speakers....the animation that I was shooting would come up......yet no bullet animations nor any blood animations from who I was shooting at. It was literally like my gun wasn't shooting any ammo....just making the sound like it was. And then there was Cog International Ice Skating Team. Your whole team was skating around the map. I know the lag is bad when chugga and I are trying to cap a CP....and we both get the dreaded "Connection Error----Hit "B" to quit" message...yet you (the host) just come running up and shotgun blast both of us while we are frozen in place waiting for the error to disappear.

i was wondering why the hell you were just standing there

Tat2
04-17-2007, 12:41 PM
anyone have any insight as to what time the R6V content will be available in the Marketplace? I remember the original GoW map pack was released early that morning, but I wasn't sure if MS normally has a set time when stuff is updated the Marketplace or if it's just whenever they feel like putting it up.

Chugga
04-17-2007, 12:49 PM
But thats the funny thing cory didn't get the better of me. When both of you were going all out I still found a way to put up over 100 points on a 2 on 1 scenario. Then after that when both of you were facing me with team damage off I won that game. Yes I won a 2 on 1 annex. The only games I ever lost were when you were an "unbiased" judge who just loved being on the turret or only realized that head shots were fun on me.

On the nightly count I had a record of 1-3 which is sad in so many ways when in a 3 on 3 game we were able to get a shutout but in a 1 on 2 you guys couldn't even scoop up all the points in time? I mean there were 2 of you. Cory's defense of "all you gotta do is keep your head down" is further proof that you are a liar Mr. Joketown. He has this strange belief that if he just stands behind cover on the machine gun spawn points he's perfectly fine when in all reality (come on now, everyone think to yourselfs...I'll give you a few minutes....ok cool) we all know you can take someones head off behind that piece of cover every single time if you want to. So yes I was moving around alot in those annex points because if I didn't move around I'd just sit behind the cover point and you'd take my head off. I mean if you really want to we can do the science experiment tonight....cory can take cover in the machine gun area and I'll pick up the sniper rifle and we'll see exactly how safe his head actually is when it's not oaktown shooting at him...or I should say not shooting at him at all. For an entire 14 seconds I just sat back and watched both of you just pick your @$$es for a while trying to figure out where I'd spawn

And I don't even wanna hear cory beat me because in basically every game we did (aside from that ***ness that was War Machine) I had more kills then both of you and the vast majority of the time oaktown had more kills then cory. So you figure that one out. The unbiased observer with 12 kills and they don't even count the teamkills.

Joketown, go back to interior decorating your xbox360.

CJF28
04-17-2007, 01:26 PM
Dont be bitter, just be better

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 01:30 PM
You're reaching again buddy. Are you really THAT worried about what some people who actually read this thread are gonna think?????

Yeah...you won a 2 ON 1 ANNEX :rolleyes: Think for a second...do you EVER remember seeing me in a CP or going to one....or even shooting at you? Don't be an azz now and say you won 2v1....that's just ridiculous. You're making it out to be like I even cared one way or the other about points and shutting you out. I was running around the entire map trying to avoid both....you and cory...and the current CP...shooting at the walls trying to make my initials. To say it was a 2v1 is quite a bit of a reach there. But if you want all the xbox 360 thread viewers to read that you won when it was 2v1...lol....fine. You won. If you want everyone to read that you didn't get shutout when BOTH Cory and I were bloodthirsty after you....lol...fine. If you really think I only shot at you.....despite seeing oaktown2000 killed junkshot artist on the screen a half dozen times....lol...fine.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 01:35 PM
And I don't even wanna hear cory beat me because in basically every game we did (aside from that ***ness that was War Machine) I had more kills then both of you and the vast majority of the time oaktown had more kills then cory. So you figure that one out. The unbiased observer with 12 kills and they don't even count the teamkills


I guess in your infinite wisdom...you don't account for the fact that everytime I killed Cory (or he killed me) it accounted for a -1 on the kills. So when it said I only had 8 kills....in all actuality it was more like 15 kills...just that 7 of them were on my "teammate". LOL...so..."did I figure that one out"???

You're right though.....not only did you not get shutout...not only did you win in a full fledged 2v1....but you also scored more kills then BOTH of us combined :rolleyes: :eek:

LOL

Chugga
04-17-2007, 01:36 PM
Joketown calm down man, this is just fun bickering back and forth. You know what, have you ever come to think that your new interior decorating job on your 360 might not be feng shui...might be messing with your shockras or something possibly putting you in a less then amazing mood.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 01:39 PM
Dont be bitter, just be better


lol...really.....he took that loss a little too harshly.....


Once and for all Cory, despite the fact he can see it for himself everytime I killed you, would you let chugga know I killed you (or tried to) everytime you were in the open.

I think the problem is....once we setup the rules for the new game....at it was legitimately a 1 on 1 competition between you and him...he lost....and he just cant deal with it. Funny to see him get this worked up about it.

Chugga
04-17-2007, 01:41 PM
Me get worked up? Nah man I'm never worked up. I usually just try to ride along and have fun. I'm the last person you'll see get worked up or drop from a game between friends. Thats not chuggas style.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 01:44 PM
Joketown calm down man, this is just fun bickering back and forth. You know what, have you ever come to think that your new interior decorating job on your 360 might not be feng shui...might be messing with your shockras or something possibly putting you in a less then amazing mood.

No need to calm down...as I'm not stressed in any way. I guess your jab on this one is that I was contemplating getting the new Elite because it's black? Or is it that I got the silver faceplate way back when I originally bought my 360? Either way, "interior decorating" is another stretch.....you've been doing a lot of that lately......stretching.

CJF28
04-17-2007, 01:45 PM
I understand his bitterness and embarassment losing to someone he deems a lower opponent. I mean, if I lost to Primebane, I would be pissed too. But rather than just admitting it and gettign a rematch and whipping my ass, its easier to say the sun was in his eyes, or his gun jammed, or you had afro seeking missles. when, all along he had the best built in excuse ever............ he wa weathering a major storm. a MAJOR storm. He coulda blamed it on that instead.

we can go at it again, with a different NUETRAL gamemaster

or

Chugga can be gamemaster, and oaktown and I can go at it. and I can show chugga the awesomeness of my camoflauge ability with the wall

Chugga
04-17-2007, 01:47 PM
No need to calm down...as I'm not stressed in any way. I guess your jab on this one is that I was contemplating getting the new Elite because it's black? Or is it that I got the silver faceplate way back when I originally bought my 360? Either way, "interior decorating" is another stretch.....you've been doing a lot of that lately......stretching. Theres some things your "awesomeness" just can't make up for.

No the jab would be that you dropped like $15 last night on 360 themes and pics. That would be the interior decorating jab.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 01:48 PM
or you had afro seeking missles


Might be the funniest thing I've ever seen you post. Why couldn't you have busted that one out "in-game'...I'd have been rollin.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 01:49 PM
No the jab would be that you dropped like $15 last night on 360 themes and pics. That would be the interior decorating jab.


oh that....uhmmmm......uhmmmmm......yeah

R. Giles
04-17-2007, 01:50 PM
when did this thread become a war zone.

Chugga
04-17-2007, 01:51 PM
I understand his bitterness and embarassment losing to someone he deems a lower opponent. I mean, if I lost to Primebane, I would be pissed too. But rather than just admitting it and gettign a rematch and whipping my ass, its easier to say the sun was in his eyes, or his gun jammed, or you had afro seeking missles. when, all along he had the best built in excuse ever............ he wa weathering a major storm. a MAJOR storm. He coulda blamed it on that instead.

we can go at it again, with a different NUETRAL gamemaster

or

Chugga can be gamemaster, and oaktown and I can go at it. and I can show chugga the awesomeness of my camoflauge ability with the wall

There shouldn't be a need for a gamemaster, why not just go one on one, that way I don't have to worry about constantly getting shot at with active reload. Me and oaktown have already had a 1 on 1, I basically owned him so I think thats why he's getting a little defensive now. Because our 1 on 1 was a legit one on one. Not a 2 on 1 that we would just deem a 1 on 1 regardless of the fact that the 3rd party was firing anyways.

I suppose I should just get used to the 2 on 1s. When me and oaktown had a legit 1 on 1 I got teamed up upon there too for 1 round but was still able to pull out a convincing victory

Chugga
04-17-2007, 01:52 PM
when did this thread become a war zone.

It's not a warzone....it's annex

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 01:52 PM
I'm the last person you'll see get worked up or drop from a game between friends. Thats not chuggas style.

Tyro Station - shotguns - 'nuff said

R. Giles
04-17-2007, 01:53 PM
It's not a warzone....it's annex

well then stop camping the spawn points and annex won't be that bad.

CJF28
04-17-2007, 01:54 PM
There shouldn't be a need for a gamemaster, why not just go one on one, that way I don't have to worry about constantly getting shot at with active reload. Me and oaktown have already had a 1 on 1, I basically owned him so I think thats why he's getting a little defensive now. Because our 1 on 1 was a legit one on one. Not a 2 on 1 that we would just deem a 1 on 1 regardless of the fact that the 3rd party was firing anyways.

I suppose I should just get used to the 2 on 1s. When me and oaktown had a legit 1 on 1 I got teamed up upon there too for 1 round but was still able to pull out a convincing victory

lets do it!!!

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 01:56 PM
There shouldn't be a need for a gamemaster, why not just go one on one, that way I don't have to worry about constantly getting shot at with active reload. Me and oaktown have already had a 1 on 1, I basically owned him so I think thats why he's getting a little defensive now. Because our 1 on 1 was a legit one on one. Not a 2 on 1 that we would just deem a 1 on 1 regardless of the fact that the 3rd party was firing anyways.

I suppose I should just get used to the 2 on 1s. When me and oaktown had a legit 1 on 1 I got teamed up upon there too for 1 round but was still able to pull out a convincing victory

LOL....it's getting deep. You might as well tell everyone you look like Denzel and sound like John Legend and are dating Kelly Clarkson.

Chugga
04-17-2007, 02:00 PM
Tyro Station - shotguns - 'nuff said

I think theres a big difference between it being 3:45 at night and legitimately having to sign off for the night and just flat out leaving. I always do that, would you say I was pissed the first night we played annex and ditched you? No I looked at the clock and immediately held down the xbox button and said goodbye as quick as I possibly could. It was friggin 4:15 in the morning I had to get going. Then in comparison there are the other 2 ways of leaving....

A. "******* ridiculous, absolutely ***** this is ***** to the ***** max on a ****** ***** fizzle stick ****** oh my ******* I'm done, I'm done, thats it's, thats ***** it, I'm ******* **** on the **** in the middle of the ***** you ******* stain of a ***** ****** and your mom ******* ***** torque bow using **** of ***** ***** **"

B. ...............................................................................................................................................................cya.........

"Dude we only have 5 players now did he just leave?"

Chugga
04-17-2007, 02:02 PM
LOL....it's getting deep. You might as well tell everyone you look like Denzel and sound like John Legend and are dating Kelly Clarkson.

Ok, ok I didn't own you (aside from the match where I almost broke 170 points before you even had 1 point) but I'm going to say I had you on lay-away for the majority of the match. I didn't necessarily own you just yet....but it was only a matter of time.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 02:02 PM
Here's chugga's MO.

1 on 1 game.
Everythings fine.
Chugga sends out invites to random players to said game.
Random Player accepts chugga's invtie.
Random Player joins 1v1 game and now it is 2v1.
Chugga then non-stop complains about playing 2v1.

And somehow...it is all my fault...lol.

XSsoCX
04-17-2007, 02:02 PM
Ill play poker sometime vvith you guys. I just cant saturday night, I have my birthday party that night.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 02:07 PM
I think theres a big difference between it being 3:45 at night and legitimately having to sign off for the night and just flat out leaving. I always do that, would you say I was pissed the first night we played annex and ditched you? No I looked at the clock and immediately held down the xbox button and said goodbye as quick as I possibly could. It was friggin 4:15 in the morning I had to get going. Then in comparison there are the other 2 ways of leaving....

A. "******* ridiculous, absolutely ***** this is ***** to the ***** max on a ****** ***** fizzle stick ****** oh my ******* I'm done, I'm done, thats it's, thats ***** it, I'm ******* **** on the **** in the middle of the ***** you ******* stain of a ***** ****** and your mom ******* ***** torque bow using **** of ***** ***** **"

B. ...............................................................................................................................................................cya.........

"Dude we only have 5 players now did he just leave?"

LOL. Yeah...last night it was really bad. In my defense...I did tell you I wasn't going to stick around much longer. Rather then continue to have the same ridiculous, laggy stuff happen over and over...I told you I was leaving.

One other thing...I seem to recall...you were pissed...and you did just flat out quit...because the down times were set really low and it was executuion. There was none of this "it's late at night I gotta go" that you speak of. You were pissed...you shouted..."this is ridiuclous"...and then you were gone. So while it may not be "chugga's style"...you definitely have done it b4.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 02:12 PM
Ok, ok I didn't own you (aside from the match where I almost broke 170 points before you even had 1 point) but I'm going to say I had you on lay-away for the majority of the match. I didn't necessarily own you just yet....but it was only a matter of time.


Oh..are you talking about the match where I was on the dashboard looking to see if anyone could join...or is that the match when you asked me to pause the game...only to find out...it only pauses my side...while you continue to play and kill me.

You are a dirty, cheating bastard. Go ahead...deny either of those things happened....and I hope lightning shoots down from the heavens and singes your fro.

oaktown2000
04-17-2007, 02:13 PM
I know you read that last post and started cracking up thinking about how you stole all those points....you crooked bastard.

Chugga
04-17-2007, 02:26 PM
LOL. Yeah...last night it was really bad. In my defense...I did tell you I wasn't going to stick around much longer. Rather then continue to have the same ridiculous, laggy stuff happen over and over...I told you I was leaving.

One other thing...I seem to recall...you were pissed...and you did just flat out quit...because the down times were set really low and it was executuion. There was none of this "it's late at night I gotta go" that you speak of. You were pissed...you shouted..."this is ridiuclous"...and then you were gone. So while it may not be "chugga's style"...you definitely have done it b4.

I'm not actually faulting you for last night, I'm just tossing it out there because it makes me look better. Also I didn't leave that hell hole of a game I sat through that, I'm pretty sure pyrrhonist was on my team and we were both commenting on how awful the game was. Someone was sporting a godly host advantage with the shotgun and the only defense against it was to take out a lancer. But what happens when you take out a lancer? He's only down for 5 seconds it doesn't matter, you were basically just delaying the invevidable with the lancer. That game was the worst game of Gears I had ever played in my life. But I did stick through it and I'm pretty sure we continued playing after that we just said "seriously we gotta start the room over again and none of that 5 second down stuff thats awful".

As for last night it was pretty bad, I got into a shotgun battle with someone and he was just sliding around...it wasn't even ice skating he was kinda like nightcrawling in X2....he would just pop over to another section of the sniper tower randomly. I'd shoot at him then pop he's 10 feet over in the other direction so I'd shoot at him there and pop he's 10 feet back now. It was some of the worst lag I had experienced but it was very hit or miss. Sometimes I'd be playing and I didn't think the connection was bad at all...to a point where I could actually pick up the sniper and have a go with it. But other times it was just really clunky.

Chugga
04-17-2007, 02:29 PM
Oh..are you talking about the match where I was on the dashboard looking to see if anyone could join...or is that the match when you asked me to pause the game...only to find out...it only pauses my side...while you continue to play and kill me.

You are a dirty, cheating bastard. Go ahead...deny either of those things happened....and I hope lightning shoots down from the heavens and singes your fro.

Ok ok, that was funny but it was only made more funny because I told you to pause the game jokingly. I was like "seriously seriously just pause the game for a minute so you can input more cheat codes to help your cause even more". Then oaktown being oaktown actually listens to me and pauses the game waiting to figure out why he should pause the game. I did give you enough time to unpause it though and form a defense, I just happened to shoot you faster then you shot me, you can't honestly say you were on the pause screen that entire time.

XSsoCX
04-17-2007, 03:44 PM
Is anyone playing Gears tonight?

PrimeBane
04-17-2007, 04:04 PM
I'm hoping to find some time to play tonight... god there's not enough hours in a day. :(

XSsoCX
04-17-2007, 07:13 PM
I got a nevv issue of Game Informer today in the mail and there vvere a good amount of GTA4 & All Pro Football 2K8 in it. Both games look really good. Im still buying Madden but I may give AP2K8 a rent and if it's gameplay and other parts are good I may also buy that. But one thing that I thought vvas kind of cool vvas that each team vvill have it's ovvn stadium design. And *their ovvn theme that come through in the architecture and in events such as TD celebrations For EXample there is a team called the Rhino's and at there stadium has an animatronic Rhino that bursts out of the stands. And the fans in the crovvd vvill consist of 64 different s complete vv/64 different animaton. And vveather ill also be a big part of thestadium eperience, right dovvn to creating more slippery playing conditions.*
inbetvveen the *'s is vvhat I copied out of the magazine.
That sound pretty cool imo.

pyrrhonist
04-17-2007, 07:20 PM
I'm pretty sure pyrrhonist was on my team and we were both commenting on how awful the game was. Someone was sporting a godly host advantage with the shotgun and the only defense against it was to take out a lancer. But what happens when you take out a lancer? He's only down for 5 seconds it doesn't matter, you were basically just delaying the invevidable with the lancer. That game was the worst game of Gears I had ever played in my life. But I did stick through it and I'm pretty sure we continued playing after that we just said "seriously we gotta start the room over again and none of that 5 second down stuff thats awful".

How could I ever forget the worst game of Gears that I ever participated in? Ah, the memories. At least I was still playing the game then (or any game, for that matter!). :p


Speaking of, my 360 finally arrived at their warehouse this morning. Now, we'll find out if it truly can be fixed, or if a refurb is the way they "fix" it. I hope to be back playing again soon. I miss Cyrodil & Stillwater. ;)

someguy6000
04-17-2007, 08:05 PM
Is anyone playing Gears tonight?
i'll be on later maybe hosting another horribly lag filled game:D

Lord Magneto
04-17-2007, 08:09 PM
anyone know how to delete a credit card from your 360 account... my old CC is expired...i entered a new one...everything is all good other then i cant download the new halo 2 maps... it keeps trying to process the damn things off my expired card and not the new one. anyone know how to get rid of it

Lord Magneto
04-17-2007, 08:16 PM
never mind... i figured it out...you have to do it over the internet on xboxlive.com friggin stupid

CJF28
04-17-2007, 08:51 PM
wheres Chugga hiding?

JaylisJayP
04-17-2007, 08:52 PM
If anyone has any Wii games to trade...I have these available on the 360:

Viva Pinata
Oblivion
Call of Duty 3

JaylisJayP
04-17-2007, 11:40 PM
Does anyone know if the Guitar Hero update to fix the whammy bar has itself been fixed so it doesn't mess anything else up?

CJF28
04-18-2007, 01:21 AM
**** you, Keith

Tat2
04-18-2007, 09:03 AM
new map packs are out for R6V if anyone cares

Outkastxleo
04-18-2007, 09:06 AM
how much? any idea?

pyrrhonist
04-18-2007, 10:46 AM
new map packs are out for R6V if anyone cares

Only a couple of months late, eh? :p

Tat2
04-18-2007, 10:58 AM
800 MS points

Only a couple of months late, eh?

eh, just a few weeks actually, but ver well worth it. There had been screens released of a map called "Neon Graveyard" and a couple of others at one point. This coupled with the name "Red Edition" begs the thought that there will be an additional DLC release with possibly 5 new maps, etc all over again.

oaktown2000
04-18-2007, 12:28 PM
**** you, Keith


lol

I was just letting you build up those early leads, that way...when I win....it would sting that much more :D


Seriously....who has ever seen, not one, but two straight wins, by just 5 points on Annex. Great games Cory....two straight 235-240 rounds. Both matches could have easily gone your way.....they just didn't :p

Torque Arrows in your azz FTW.

XSsoCX
04-18-2007, 01:07 PM
Madden 08 cover:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/XSsoCX/200277b.jpg

oaktown2000
04-18-2007, 01:16 PM
Meh...IMO...that sucks. The cover used to go to the player who had an MVP like year..someone who was argueably the best player in the league.....now they give it to someone who threw more INTs then they did TDs :confused:

Just like the game itself...the covers are now all about hype and not substence.

XSsoCX
04-18-2007, 01:19 PM
I agree Oaktovvn I think it's a bad choice. At least after only one year. I vvas thinking LT, Peyton, or my stretch pick vvas Champ Bailey.

ilas
04-18-2007, 01:32 PM
I think that I will just buy it for the Wii. I really enjoy the Madden game play on the Wii.

CJF28
04-18-2007, 01:38 PM
I think Champ Bailey would have been nice for the cover

supertim
04-18-2007, 02:28 PM
I think that I will just buy it for the Wii. I really enjoy the Madden game play on the Wii.

Agreed.

CJF28
04-18-2007, 04:16 PM
speaking of Wii. I just picked one up. Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

meatgoat
04-18-2007, 05:59 PM
I agree Oaktovvn I think it's a bad choice. At least after only one year. I vvas thinking LT, Peyton, or my stretch pick vvas Champ Bailey.

Personally I'm relieved it's not LT. My dynasty team couldn't compete without him. Course I have VY too but I can live without his services next year. :D

Therman Merman
04-18-2007, 06:22 PM
I'm taking bets on Vince Young's, "Madden Curse" injury...

Whadda ya got?:p

XSsoCX
04-18-2007, 06:46 PM
broken ankle.

meatgoat
04-18-2007, 07:01 PM
I'll take spleen. :D That or just your standard sophomore slump.

someguy6000
04-18-2007, 08:19 PM
i say he is going to avoid the curse up until the last week of the season

oaktown2000
04-18-2007, 08:31 PM
I say....he'll throw more INTs then TDs :p

Lord Magneto
04-19-2007, 10:39 AM
So does anyone know if you play Ranked Annex games does that count towards your achievements? I'm just now getting back into gow and attempting to go for some of those extra points.

CJF28
04-19-2007, 10:42 AM
its been stated that it doesnt.

pyrrhonist
04-19-2007, 10:50 AM
eh, just a few weeks actually, but ver well worth it. There had been screens released of a map called "Neon Graveyard" and a couple of others at one point. This coupled with the name "Red Edition" begs the thought that there will be an additional DLC release with possibly 5 new maps, etc all over again.

Well, it's good to hear that they're worth the wait. Keep holding that R6 down while I'm out-of-commission, man. :cool:

bjread
04-19-2007, 11:52 AM
So who HAS played the R6V updates? I started them downloading last night and they were done this morning but I haven't had a chace to play them yet. Anyone up for some R6V tonight???

XSsoCX
04-19-2007, 12:29 PM
Is anyone interested in the game Two Worlds? I dont knovv much about it but it looks pretty good.

supertim
04-19-2007, 12:54 PM
I went to my local GameStop today and the manager suggested that if I want to get an Elite (and get the $250 trade-in credit - I know better, that promo expires on 5/27/07), that it would be in my best interests to begin to camp out in front of the store the NIGHT BEFORE release.


Come on, people. Is it really going to be that bad? What, there's going to be 200-250K released on 4/29, right? I think that would be plenty for a first go 'round, don't yall?

Is anyone here planning on camping out? I had to wait just under an hour and a half (88 minutes) for a Wii, and 3 hours for the original 360 launch.

A new color, larger HDD, and HDMI support is going to cause people to camp out overnight? Puhleeeeeeeeeease.


The manager originally had heard that his store was only getting 2 Elite consoles...but he thinks it may be at least 20 units, since he only received 20 of the special $250 trade-in credit coupons. Of course, I suppose all the stores could have only received 20 copies of the coupons, as well.

I refuse to "camp" out. 3 hours is my limit.

Tat2
04-19-2007, 01:00 PM
So who HAS played the R6V updates? I started them downloading last night and they were done this morning but I haven't had a chace to play them yet. Anyone up for some R6V tonight???

personally, I like them a lot. The new kill house is nice, lot of new additions. the new border town is... meh. The Marshalling yard is almost too big. the roof is meh... and the doscala restaurant is nice.

assassination and total conquest are both great additions though

Outkastxleo
04-19-2007, 01:02 PM
price on the new maps?

pyrrhonist
04-19-2007, 01:04 PM
price on the new maps?

I believe they're 800 points.

bigjake62505
04-19-2007, 01:05 PM
Maybe someone here can help me. When I play my 360 in HD the colors switch from good to a reddish tint. Its not my TV because the color switches from good to red during game play. This happen to anyone else?

PrimeBane
04-19-2007, 01:08 PM
You mean it starts out fine and then goes red? Or does it go red right away when you start.

First thing I would do is check the connections on the back of the tv to make sure they are snug.

bigjake62505
04-19-2007, 01:19 PM
Well sometimes it starts out fine then goes to the red tint. But some time it starts out with the reddish tint. I tested all my connections and they are fine. I think I will get a new cable and try that.

PrimeBane
04-19-2007, 01:28 PM
Do you have your 360 connected by more than 1 connection? IE component and composite for video?

bigjake62505
04-19-2007, 01:41 PM
I don't think so but I will Check when I get home, that maybe the problem, thanks. If not, I will post again.

CJF28
04-19-2007, 02:06 PM
what game?

bigjake62505
04-19-2007, 02:10 PM
every game I play on it.

bigjake62505
04-19-2007, 02:10 PM
Madden07, NCAA07, and Gears so far

Tat2
04-19-2007, 05:43 PM
price on the new maps?

yes... posted this a few after you originally asked

800 MS points

XSsoCX
04-19-2007, 08:26 PM
Is anyone interested in the game Two Worlds? I dont knovv much about it but it looks pretty good.


Thoughts?...................Anyone?

avsfan21
04-19-2007, 08:31 PM
Having to get up at 5:30 in the morning is killing me I cant really play with you guys anymore. Hopefully it will only be a few more days. I still need like 170 points to get to finish off that challenge. I dont think I will make it.

someguy6000
04-19-2007, 10:17 PM
Having to get up at 5:30 in the morning is killing me I cant really play with you guys anymore. Hopefully it will only be a few more days. I still need like 170 points to get to finish off that challenge. I dont think I will make it.
if your talking about the old spice challenge go rent TMNT easy points all you have to do is play through the game

Master Windu
04-20-2007, 04:06 AM
Anyone buy the new mini golf game from the arcade? Its pretty fun, more challenging then I thought it would be. They put some thought into creating a couple of the courses, and how you need to get a hole in one.

Gooker1
04-20-2007, 08:33 AM
Did that 360 poker thread get deleted?

Outkastxleo
04-20-2007, 08:40 AM
it shoudl still be there, i posted on it this morning