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Outkastxleo
04-20-2007, 08:40 AM
oh wow i think it did get deleted...maybe by the moderators for gambling? shoot i dont know...i wanted to join that too.....
someguy6000
04-20-2007, 08:57 AM
Thoughts?...................Anyone?
i haven't heard about that one.
PrimeBane
04-20-2007, 09:21 AM
Two worlds is the big RPG isn't it?
CJF28
04-20-2007, 09:27 AM
yea, its like oblivion, but its multi player. 8 man groups working together
PrimeBane
04-20-2007, 09:43 AM
When is it coming out again? And once I start playing when can my family expect to see me again?
Outkastxleo
04-20-2007, 09:47 AM
yea, its like oblivion, but its multi player. 8 man groups working together
what happened to the poker tourney?
pyrrhonist
04-20-2007, 10:57 AM
yea, its like oblivion, but its multi player. 8 man groups working together
Mighty praise for this game, man! I'm approaching it with hesitation, because I'm not sure this game will be as good as any of the Elder Scrolls games. Of course, my system probably won't be back by then. :rolleyes:
CJF28
04-20-2007, 11:13 AM
Its coming out in June sometime. Hopfully. Its already been pushed back once.
The poker tourney was cancelled, because I couldnt get enough people to commit the the same time.
cory
bigjake62505
04-20-2007, 12:12 PM
You guys play MLB2K7? Is good? LMK
XSsoCX
04-20-2007, 12:16 PM
I believe Two Worlds comes out May15th.
Gooker1
04-20-2007, 12:19 PM
Its coming out in June sometime. Hopfully. Its already been pushed back once.
The poker tourney was cancelled, because I couldnt get enough people to commit the the same time.
cory
Damn - I was hoping to play tonight w/ you guys b/c I didn't want to go to the casino and lose more tonight :(
CJF28
04-20-2007, 12:45 PM
well, you can try and round people up. Ill be home to play. I just didnt have the time to organize it all. I think with more of a two week notice, we could have a nice turnout. think of the bad beat stories people will show up *****ing about
giantSFortyniners
04-20-2007, 12:46 PM
i say we still have one tonite...im thinking around 8 west so 11 east...does that sound good?
CJF28
04-20-2007, 01:15 PM
Sure. PM everyone
oaktown2000
jmc000
CJF29
PSU "something"
Gooker1
Raiderleo
Outkastxleo
04-20-2007, 01:38 PM
so we need to agree on a time thats best for all of us....
i know i can play after 9 pacific got some stuff i need to take care of....originally from what the past thread stated it would be around that time.....so ill wait for a PM, but im ready to drop the money in or ill do it later before the tourney......i say if we get a good turnout and it ends up being fun we should have a night with a 20 dollar buy in :D :D :D
meatgoat
04-20-2007, 01:40 PM
Sure. PM everyone
oaktown2000
jmc000
CJF29
PSU "something"
Gooker1
Raiderleo
How long does one of these tourneys usually take? I'm down for it but can't go too late because I have to wake up at the crack of freakin dawn for playoff flag football tomorrow.
Gooker1
04-20-2007, 01:42 PM
so we need to agree on a time thats best for all of us....
i know i can play after 9 pacific got some stuff i need to take care of....originally from what the past thread stated it would be around that time.....so ill wait for a PM, but im ready to drop the money in or ill do it later before the tourney......i say if we get a good turnout and it ends up being fun we should have a night with a 20 dollar buy in :D :D :D
Let's see how the turnout is first.
What's everyone's gamertag?
Mine:
BroncsDDT
meatgoat
04-20-2007, 01:43 PM
Let's see how the turnout is first.
What's everyone's gamertag?
Mine:
BroncsDDT
meatgoat36
Outkastxleo
04-20-2007, 01:46 PM
outkastxleo
giantSFortyniners
04-20-2007, 01:57 PM
marvelusmayo
Therman Merman
04-20-2007, 02:16 PM
Hey guys. Picking up a 360 tonight. Anything I need to know about the system , or do to the system to prevent the "3 rings of death"? I'm getting the premium system if that matters.
Thanks guys.
Chugga
04-20-2007, 02:20 PM
Hey guys. Picking up a 360 tonight. Anything I need to know about the system , or do to the system to prevent the "3 rings of death"? I'm getting the premium system if that matters.
Thanks guys.
I've got 2 suggestions for you. 1 look up info about the Elite system and see if you'd like to get that instead. If I were in the market for an Xbox360 right now I'd without a doubt spend the extra $80 and pick it up in a week or so when it comes out.
The second suggestion is regardless of what system you end up getting the extended warranty isn't a bad idea. This is coming from a guy who's had 3 Xbox360's fail on him. The newer manufactured Xbox's are supposed to be more reliable but it's up to you whether or not you believe that or not.
I'll tell you right now the extended warranty makes more financial sense then the intercooler.
meatgoat
04-20-2007, 02:20 PM
Hey guys. Picking up a 360 tonight. Anything I need to know about the system , or do to the system to prevent the "3 rings of death"? I'm getting the premium system if that matters.
Thanks guys.
My only suggestion is to buy an extended warranty with it. I love the system but I'm on my 3rd one. Best Buy is great. Just bring it in and walk out with a new one. Best $50 I ever spent.
Therman Merman
04-20-2007, 02:43 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys. The extended warranty is a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned. I'm not interested in dealing with Microsoft. It's to easy and quick to bring it into any EB or Gamestop and get a new one.
Chugga, isn't the Elite just a bigger hard drive and a paint job? What I mean is, is there anything else that justifies the extra $80 other than a bigger hard drive?
Chugga
04-20-2007, 03:33 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys. The extended warranty is a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned. I'm not interested in dealing with Microsoft. It's to easy and quick to bring it into any EB or Gamestop and get a new one.
Chugga, isn't the Elite just a bigger hard drive and a paint job? What I mean is, is there anything else that justifies the extra $80 other than a bigger hard drive?
For me the big hard drive is a necessity. I've got a 20GB hd (which really equates down to a 12-13gb) and over the course of the last year and a half I've worked it all the way down to 2.7gbs. Whether it be saved game data, patches, expansions, downloadable content, custom soundtracks. If this system is going to be around for 5+ years I simply won't have the hard drive space to make it work.
To top it off I'm just a huge fan of HDMI and the color black. I like the sleek look that blends in with the rest of my components and HDMI is such a god send. No more fiber optic cables, no more of that green, red, blue, etc. It's simple, easy, and I like it. Is it worth the extra $80? Probably not, but at least in my opinion if I were in the market for a 360 as of today I would personally buy that. May not be the smartest choice for you, maybe you don't have enough HDMI slots or maybe you don't really care for the black components or maybe you don't plan on saving a ton of stuff. But for me it's definately something I'd want.
MPCanes
04-20-2007, 04:44 PM
Oh man, has anyone seen whats going on with Too Human? It was the game that got absolutely trashed for being a buggy, 5 frames a second mess at E3 last year - then the president of silicon knights basically came out and said "yes, it looked and ran like **** and I hated having to show it - I promise it will be awesome". Now it's got another year under the hood and is slated to come out this fall and it looks (and sounds) awesome - apparently part Diablo, part Mass Effect, and all based in a bizarre Norse Mythology meets Future Technology world. Not to mention Online co-op with 4 players, much like diablo, and lots of items to collect, and a huge story spanning at least a 3 game trilogy.
The original concept was written in 1997, so this has been in the works a long, long time.
Here's hoping it turns out as good as the premise sounds, it has instantly shot up to being in my top 5 most anticipated for the year.
oaktown2000
04-20-2007, 05:15 PM
Hey MPCanes...how'd you like Mcfadden's winner....was that an incredible effort or what.
MPCanes
04-20-2007, 05:38 PM
Hey MPCanes...how'd you like Mcfadden's winner....was that an incredible effort or what.
As long as James Beattie never sees the field again! :)
Lord Magneto
04-20-2007, 09:09 PM
oak i love ur new sig...
oaktown2000
04-20-2007, 09:13 PM
thanks...I just put that together today....saw the image with all the characters and thought it would look cool faded inbetween "MARVEL"
XSsoCX
04-21-2007, 11:23 AM
ya oak that is a cool sig.
supertim
04-21-2007, 11:40 AM
oak i love ur new sig...
That is really sweet. Would you mind making one for DC COMICS, preferably with Alex Ross artwork? That would ROCK
Lord Magneto
04-21-2007, 05:11 PM
That is really sweet. Would you mind making one for DC COMICS, preferably with Alex Ross artwork? That would ROCK
here ya go man i whipped this up real quick for ya... not quite as nice as oaks... haha
http://www.maj.com/gallery/jessegun23/Avatars/dc-sig.jpg
CJF28
04-21-2007, 05:20 PM
both sigs are nice. Im reading JUSTICE right now. all painted by Alex Ross
oaktown2000
04-21-2007, 09:28 PM
ya oak that is a cool sig.
Thanks again
That is really sweet. Would you mind making one for DC COMICS, preferably with Alex Ross artwork? That would ROCK
I just logged on to see this...but it looks like your request has already been filled :)
here ya go man i whipped this up real quick for ya... not quite as nice as oaks... haha
http://www.maj.com/gallery/jessegun23/Avatars/dc-sig.jpg
I wouldn't say that at all man...that looks effin sweet...great job!
CJF28
04-21-2007, 10:11 PM
Alex Ross is a genius
Lord Magneto
04-21-2007, 10:47 PM
haha oak i re did one for myself as well with the marvel zombies pic... i might re do it tomorrow... thanks for the idea man
oaktown2000
04-21-2007, 10:57 PM
Nice...Cyclops holding his own head is great..lol
CJF28
04-21-2007, 11:03 PM
GoW?
CJF28
04-22-2007, 02:32 AM
This picture is for oaktown
http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/data/500/blipvsgleek6wz.jpg
TastySweetNutz
04-22-2007, 10:08 AM
Hey Lord Magneto, your sig is sick! I love Marvel Zombies and that is insane!
supertim
04-22-2007, 01:01 PM
here ya go man i whipped this up real quick for ya... not quite as nice as oaks... haha
http://www.maj.com/gallery/jessegun23/Avatars/dc-sig.jpg
Holy Crap - that is KICKASS!!!!!!!
THANK YOU! You completely rule!
How do I save it and make it my sig? :o
Lord Magneto
04-22-2007, 02:14 PM
Holy Crap - that is KICKASS!!!!!!!
THANK YOU! You completely rule!
How do I save it and make it my sig? :o
you can do a few things... you can right click on it and do save image address then go into your user cp and add it to your sig...or you can save it to your desktop of ur computer... then upload it to your personal image hosting site then save the image address and load it into your user cp sig info
JaylisJayP
04-22-2007, 03:35 PM
My only suggestion is to buy an extended warranty with it. I love the system but I'm on my 3rd one. Best Buy is great. Just bring it in and walk out with a new one. Best $50 I ever spent.
My thoughts exactly, and I'm on my third system, as well.
Get the warranty.
CJF28
04-22-2007, 07:36 PM
So, it says when i hook my 360 up to my PC, I can pull music, videos, and pictures from my PC onto the 360. Does anyone know what kind of video files the 360 supports?
avsfan21
04-22-2007, 07:58 PM
This picture is for oaktown
http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/data/500/blipvsgleek6wz.jpg
I am offended. Why cant the picture be for me as well?:p
PrimeBane
04-22-2007, 08:38 PM
So, it says when i hook my 360 up to my PC, I can pull music, videos, and pictures from my PC onto the 360. Does anyone know what kind of video files the 360 supports?
WMA only I believe...
supertim
04-23-2007, 06:24 AM
Has anyone downloaded the new pair of Halo 2 maps? I'm up for invites this week (except for Tuesday) if anyone is interested.
someguy6000
04-23-2007, 08:57 AM
just seen that wal-mart here had the new black wireless controlers and the black plug n play kit also seen the 120g hard drive for 172.93. is the elite still set for the 28th?
supertim
04-23-2007, 09:07 AM
just seen that wal-mart here had the new black wireless controlers and the black plug n play kit also seen the 120g hard drive for 172.93. is the elite still set for the 28th?
Even if I found an Elite somewhere before the 28th, I'd be tempted to (but probably wouldn't) leave it on the shelf, solely because I want to get one at GS for the $250 360 Premium trade-in credit...Of course, if I am unsuccessful at GS, I'll head over to BB or WM asap. I really don't see the Elite selling out immediately...at least I hope it won't. Most kids and uber nerds either don't have the money or spend too much of it on anime and porn.
Is anyone camping out? The GS manager thinks people are going to camp overnight. "Homey don't play dat!"
For those who plan on getting one on the 29th (assuming that's not the ship date), how are you going about it?
"If they have it - great, if they don't, I'll try later."
or
"I'm gonna be the first mofo in line!!!"
Let's hear your thoughts :)
someguy6000
04-23-2007, 09:18 AM
i won't camp out over it my issue is do i trade in for a whole new system when all i really want is the bigger hard drive?
for that 250 trade in do i need a coupon?
the other stuff is cool but i don't understand besides the bigger Hard drive i really don't have a use for an HDMI cable/componet
PrimeBane
04-23-2007, 09:33 AM
IMO, these won't be that hard to find... but then I thought the same about the Wii.
someguy6000
04-23-2007, 09:48 AM
yeah i thought for sure i would have at least seen a wii by now.
bigjake62505
04-23-2007, 09:57 AM
I posted last week about my 360. Every time I play a game in HD the color goes to a red tint. I checked all the connections and there fine. It looks so good until the color goes red. Has this happened to anyone else?
someguy6000
04-23-2007, 09:59 AM
I posted last week about my 360. Every time I play a game in HD the color goes to a red tint. I checked all the connections and there fine. It looks so good until the color goes red. Has this happened to anyone else?
not to me call the help number i think its 1800 my xbox or visit www.xbox.com (http://www.xbox.com) to get the number
1-800-4MY-XBOX
they should be able to help troubleshoot. Just out of curiosity, how old is your TV?
pyrrhonist
04-23-2007, 10:53 AM
Hey Tat,
When they shipped your system back to you, did you get an email? I haven't heard jack back, and they've had my system over a week. Am I just being impatient? :D
Hey Tat,
When they shipped your system back to you, did you get an email? I haven't heard jack back, and they've had my system over a week. Am I just being impatient? :D
could just be being impatient, but truth be told, i never got an email either. What I did was call up 1-800-4MY-XBOX and gave them my reference number and they looked into it and told me exactly what was going on with it and also gave me my tracking number.
Maybe give it a shot. They can at least update you on its status I would think.
Good luck!!
Kingpen
04-23-2007, 11:11 AM
there is supposedly a new hero and villian pack for Marvel Ultimate Alliance (http://www.marvelultimatealliance.com/news.php?id=508#headline) coming out for XBL soon. I have a friend who wants this but is not connected. I've already told him he's out of luck, but thought could I copy this pack onto a memory unit and he could copy it to his HDD?
Poochiesdead
04-23-2007, 11:12 AM
Just create a Silver account for him using his HD and download it for him.
someguy6000
04-23-2007, 11:13 AM
there is supposedly a new hero and villian pack for Marvel Ultimate Alliance (http://www.marvelultimatealliance.com/news.php?id=508#headline) coming out for XBL soon. I have a friend who wants this but is not connected. I've already told him he's out of luck, but thought could I copy this pack onto a memory unit and he could copy it to his HDD?
i don't think you can do that unless you buy a copy for your self i.e on your Hard Drive and buy a copy for the Memory card
PrimeBane
04-23-2007, 11:26 AM
Is anyone going to pick up Blue Dragon at the end of May? It looks interesting enough...
bigjake62505
04-23-2007, 11:34 AM
Thanks guys. My TV is new. my wife and I got it for christmas.
supertim
04-23-2007, 11:49 AM
i won't camp out over it my issue is do i trade in for a whole new system when all i really want is the bigger hard drive?
for that 250 trade in do i need a coupon?
the other stuff is cool but i don't understand besides the bigger Hard drive i really don't have a use for an HDMI cable/componet
GS said that the coupon would be handed out in store on 4/29.
My local GS manager said he only got 20 coupons, so I guess it'll be first come, first serve.
He also said that even if the store didn't get 20 Elite's, that whoever was there would get the coupon and could keep checking to see if the store gets anymore in stock. The coupon expires 5/27/07, so there's a little time.
Aside from that,
I just got [SIZE=7]DENIED!!!![/SIZE=7]
Went to Wal-Mart during lunch to pick up some stuff and thought I'd pop into the electronics section "just to see" if they had any Elite's.
There were 4 of them in the case and I called over an associate and said I'd like to purchase an XBOX.
She said which one? I told her the one in the gray-ish box. (I thought the box was going to be jet black, but it's apparently dark gray.)
She unlocks the case and pulled one, then locked the case and took the console to the register.
I come around the other side to pay while she rings it up.
BZZZZZZRRRRP!!!!!
<Sale Not Allowed> says the register's readout.
She scans twice more, then goes and gets another Elite to scan to see if it was the barcode that was funny on the first Elite. She gets the same result.
She radios for a low level functionary and he does the same thing that she does. Then he calls his superior to come check out the situation.
He does the same thing and the goes in the back to "look something up."
He comes back and says the store is "re-doing mods" and this item is scheduled for Sunday.
I said, "well the console is on the sale floor, so the item is available for purchase."
He replies, "it's on the floor yes, but we're not permitted to sell this until Sunday."
I come back to say "you're telling me that the XBOX on the counter in front of me & is out on the sale floor is not for sale, despite the error of putting it out for customers to purchase?"
"The register said 'sale not allowed,' even though there is no Effective Date, that it's called, we aren't capable of overriding the system."
I said, "well I'm certainly sorry to hear that. As a consumer I was misled because the product was out on the floor for sale, but rules are rules, I suppose. To avoid any further mishaps you probably ought to get one of your underlings (yes, I said underlings) to get the remaining consoles off the sale floor until Sunday."
"By the way, will the consoles be available early Sunday morning at midnight or at some specific time of day?"
He said, "early Sunday morning...midnight-ish."
To end the discussion I said, "thanks a ton."
I had it in my grasp, boys. I'm apprehensive to go back on Sunday to try and get one though, because the underling (I went to get groceries and passed by Electronics again) was tumbling the consoles into a buggy, so that makes me not want to buy an overly jostled Elite. If I strike out at WM, I'll try GS. If I'm successful at WM, I'll sell my 360 at the community garage sale on 5/5 or craigslist or something.
EDIT:
Of course, I have not a smidgeon of proof to show you. Ever since I got my Crackberry last year (a model with a camera came out about 2 months after I got mine) I've needed a camera phone more than ever. The day after I bought the phone I saw the Mystery Machine. I kid you not...same van shape, and of course, identical paint job right down to the hippy flowers.
XSsoCX
04-23-2007, 12:07 PM
Can someone post the link to the page that list the achievements?
PrimeBane
04-23-2007, 12:09 PM
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/index.php
Google works nice too ;)
PrimeBane
04-23-2007, 12:11 PM
Damn... I didn't know they added achievements to Halo 2 now...
PrimeBane
04-23-2007, 12:12 PM
Damn... so close eh Supertim? Stupid networked tills :(
supertim
04-23-2007, 12:46 PM
Damn... so close eh Supertim? Stupid networked tills :(
YES!!! It would have been great to get one today, PB. I had a crappy day at work (multiple customer issues) before I found the Elite, and getting X-Blocked didn't make that any better. Hopefully the rest of the day will help me rebound.
someguy6000
04-23-2007, 12:50 PM
YES!!! It would have been great to get one today, PB. I had a crappy day at work (multiple customer issues) before I found the Elite, and getting X-Blocked didn't make that any better. Hopefully the rest of the day will help me rebound.
wait you work with customers yet you feel the need to be argumentative to wal-mart employees i would think you could be sympathetic or at least understand.
PrimeBane
04-23-2007, 01:10 PM
X-Blocked... LOL Nice :D
supertim
04-23-2007, 01:19 PM
wait you work with customers yet you feel the need to be argumentative to wal-mart employees i would think you could be sympathetic or at least understand.
Ironic, isn't it? It is not in my nature to be that way, I assure you. I was (still am) bummed about today..my customers were yelling at me because the manufacturer I represent hadn't delivered something, so it wasn't my fault, I just get yelled at because I'm the rep.
I'm not argumentative at all.
To me, it makes sense that if something is on the floor, it's for sale. If the rule was 'broken,' then they should be able to sell it to me.
I wasn't necessarily argumentative, just inquisitve;)
My tone with the employees wasn't s****y or anything, I was just elated to find one in the store, and then being told I couldn't buy it was a big letdown.
Actually, I played dumb about the whole thing...I just gave boardies an overview of what happened.
I'd say things such as:
"is something wrong?"
"why does it say 'Sale Not Allowed'?"
"Why would an item be released on a Sunday? That's just odd."
"I thought an XBOX was an XBOX, just that this one comes in black and has more memory."
Stuff like that...I know better than to be a dlck, because they have to put up with that all day. I didn't like what happened, obviously, but for the most part, I was cordial about it.
supertim
04-23-2007, 01:20 PM
X-Blocked... LOL Nice :D
:)
YES!!! It would have been great to get one today, PB. I had a crappy day at work (multiple customer issues) before I found the Elite, and getting X-Blocked didn't make that any better. Hopefully the rest of the day will help me rebound.
Funny. Reminds me of the days when they were getting the Star Wars Episode III figures before the release date. :D
pyrrhonist
04-23-2007, 01:33 PM
Can someone post the link to the page that list the achievements?
There is also http://www.achieve360points.com
pyrrhonist
04-23-2007, 01:36 PM
Maybe give it a shot. They can at least update you on its status
I had been using the tracking number I wrote down from the shipping label they sent me, but it hasn't been updated since they got the system (When I shipped to them). Funny thing, though, is my wife checked our messages while at work today, and she says there's a message from UPS advising they're going to be delivering a "package that requires a signature" between 8am-7pm today. Nice--just like the cable company! :rolleyes:
So, assuming one of us gets home in time, I should have my system back tonight. Now, will it work? :p :mad:
Lord Magneto
04-23-2007, 01:47 PM
Damn... I didn't know they added achievements to Halo 2 now...
It looks like its just for the PC..the achievements that is
TastySweetNutz
04-23-2007, 02:40 PM
Anyone know the next good game to be released? It's been slow as of late unless you're a GH2 player.
oaktown2000
04-23-2007, 02:58 PM
Just curious...would anyone be interested in a FPS bundle (COD3, Gears, RS:V)?
All are scratch-free, in great working order, with books, etc...etc..etc..
I had been using the tracking number I wrote down from the shipping label they sent me, but it hasn't been updated since they got the system (When I shipped to them). Funny thing, though, is my wife checked our messages while at work today, and she says there's a message from UPS advising they're going to be delivering a "package that requires a signature" between 8am-7pm today. Nice--just like the cable company! :rolleyes:
So, assuming one of us gets home in time, I should have my system back tonight. Now, will it work? :p :mad:
yeah, the tracking number you have been using is just TO the repair facility. When they ship it back, it will have a different tracking no.
hopefully you'll get it today and you'll be up and running... I'll be curious to know!
pyrrhonist
04-23-2007, 03:41 PM
hopefully you'll get it today and you'll be up and running... I'll be curious to know!
You and me both, man. Chances are, I won't be staying online with it tonight, due to watching a game. But, I'll at least hook it up and try the sucka out...assuming it gets there before the game begins @ 7.
pyrrhonist
04-23-2007, 03:47 PM
Interesting read on Team Xbox....discussing what changes the author would like to see for Xbox Live's pricing/feature structure. I especially like the part about online play:
http://editorials.teamxbox.com/xbox/1967/AN-INCONVENIENT-TRUTH/p1
PrimeBane
04-23-2007, 03:59 PM
I 100% agree with server based online play... I don't understand why this isn't already in place. :(
WitchKingOfAngmar
04-23-2007, 04:09 PM
Even if I found an Elite somewhere before the 28th, I'd be tempted to (but probably wouldn't) leave it on the shelf, solely because I want to get one at GS for the $250 360 Premium trade-in credit...Of course, if I am unsuccessful at GS, I'll head over to BB or WM asap. I really don't see the Elite selling out immediately...at least I hope it won't. Most kids and uber nerds either don't have the money or spend too much of it on anime and porn.
Is anyone camping out? The GS manager thinks people are going to camp overnight. "Homey don't play dat!"
For those who plan on getting one on the 29th (assuming that's not the ship date), how are you going about it?
"If they have it - great, if they don't, I'll try later."
or
"I'm gonna be the first mofo in line!!!"
Let's hear your thoughts :)
I'm hoping to get mine on the 29th (if not sooner somehow), but I am a LITTLE worried about them selling out. According to what gamestop/EB corporate has told their managers, most stores will only be getting about 2. Circuit City's website has already sold old of thier first allocation too. So, I dunno, it's looking like the demand for this new SKU MIGHT be bigger than anticipated.
pyrrhonist
04-23-2007, 09:34 PM
So, I got my system delivered to me around 5:30pm PST, and I already hooked my hard drive and everything back up (It was indeed my original system). I can once again play the games that were giving me trouble when the disc drive was crapping out. However....
I've noticed that there is some hiccupping still on some of the games (Oblivion, once again...Morrowind never had such issues on the original Xbox :rolleyes: ), and I already had another disc unreadable error. Sweet crap, this is horrendous. To add insult to injury, the 1-month free card they gave me had the serial number partially missing, but the clown who I talked to on the phone said "there's nothing they could do". I am very close to just boxing it all back up, and taking it back to Costco for a refund, and throwing in the towel on this generation of the Xbox. :mad:
CJF28
04-23-2007, 09:54 PM
You should. Then take that money and buy a PS3. Think of all the cool games you could play on it.............
pyrrhonist
04-23-2007, 09:57 PM
You should. Then take that money and buy a PS3. Think of all the cool games you could play on it.............
Of course, you're not going through the same crap I am, so I could see where your defensive comment would come from....
It's just sad that of all the BS I heard about how many problems I was going to have with my original Playstation, Xbox, and then PS2, I never once had any issues. I always crap on the internet stories of "Such & such system is crap, it breaks all the tyme LOLZ", and then finally, I've run into one that IS true. It's very frustrating, considering I have wanted to be supportive of Microsoft, but it seems manufacturing on the 360 isn't quite up to any sort of "quality" standard. :mad:
Hell, I've gotten by the past 2-3 weeks with nothing but minor gaming (Finishing God of War 2, and dusting off my PS2 GH & GH2), so perhaps not having a new system any longer isn't such a big deal.
someguy6000
04-23-2007, 10:54 PM
No Ads
If you are paying for your online-game service, why do you have to see ads on those Xbox 360 blades? Furthermore, if you are paying for a game, why you have to see ads in games? I’m cool with ads making content free, but, conversely, paying for content should remove any ad.
It’d be great if Microsoft could a develop a technology that enables game publishers and developers to know if the user playing the game is a paid subscriber. That way, the game will automatically know if it should display an ad (or not) in its single-player campaign or online multiplayer modes.
Microsoft has already acquired Massive Inc., which (along with the other big in-game advertising companies, Double Fusion and the recently-acquired-by-Google AdScape) already has deals in place with most major game publishers. You’d think if they wanted to remove ads for a specific group of players, they could easily do so by signing an agreement and developing the necessary technology to identify Gold subscribers from Silver users.
this part kinda stupid the rest was pretty good though
CJF28
04-24-2007, 12:22 AM
Of course, you're not going through the same crap I am, so I could see where your defensive comment would come from....
It's just sad that of all the BS I heard about how many problems I was going to have with my original Playstation, Xbox, and then PS2, I never once had any issues. I always crap on the internet stories of "Such & such system is crap, it breaks all the tyme LOLZ", and then finally, I've run into one that IS true. It's very frustrating, considering I have wanted to be supportive of Microsoft, but it seems manufacturing on the 360 isn't quite up to any sort of "quality" standard. :mad:
Hell, I've gotten by the past 2-3 weeks with nothing but minor gaming (Finishing God of War 2, and dusting off my PS2 GH & GH2), so perhaps not having a new system any longer isn't such a big deal.
aahh, not really defensive. Just more making fun of the lack of games the PS3 has out. Really, Im pumped playing my new wii. I think I strained my obliques trying to bowl too hard
Chugga
04-24-2007, 12:41 AM
So, I got my system delivered to me around 5:30pm PST, and I already hooked my hard drive and everything back up (It was indeed my original system). I can once again play the games that were giving me trouble when the disc drive was crapping out. However....
I've noticed that there is some hiccupping still on some of the games (Oblivion, once again...Morrowind never had such issues on the original Xbox :rolleyes: ), and I already had another disc unreadable error. Sweet crap, this is horrendous. To add insult to injury, the 1-month free card they gave me had the serial number partially missing, but the clown who I talked to on the phone said "there's nothing they could do". I am very close to just boxing it all back up, and taking it back to Costco for a refund, and throwing in the towel on this generation of the Xbox. :mad:
Xbox360 lost my trust also, but I can't throw in the towel on it, it's still my favorite system of the 3. Hell 4 of my systems have broken down (sometimes I lose count and forget to add in my actual 1 day owning of a launch system)....I've never had a system ever before where every day when I hit the power button I almost feel like I have to cross my fingers and hope everything goes ok. I've got all the reason in the world to be jaded against microsoft. The first 360 I had that broke I was on hold with their customer service for an hour before they finally hung up on me. I call back and go on hold for an hour and a half before they finally tell me I'm boned send in my system. I didn't get the coffin until over 2 weeks later (by then I had already just went to gamestop and gotten a different xbox). So believe me I can 110% see where your coming from.
I don't know if I'd give up on the system just yet. It's definately frustrating as all hell when all you wanna do is put in an hour or 2 of videogaming and your shut down because a system you dropped $400+ for can't even start up or play 5 minutes without freezing.
I'd love to tell you to throw in the towel, the grass is greener on the other side but right now the 360 is just the best of the 3 options. The novelty of the Wii wore off on me really quick so now I only play the Marios, Warios, Zeldas, etc that the system offers. And the PS3 while is a solid system doesn't offer enough games. You'd finally be able to get your Oblivion gaming in, maybe watch a high def movie or 2 but exclusive titles aren't really the strong point right now. Although Heavenly Sword does kinda look like it will own my life for a good week or 2.
Just hang in there
PrimeBane
04-24-2007, 10:09 AM
Dave, take it back to Costco... then buy an Elite when it comes out on the weekend :D
It's fate I tells ya...
someguy6000
04-24-2007, 10:43 AM
Dave, take it back to Costco... then buy an Elite when it comes out on the weekend :D
It's fate I tells ya...
i almost wish mine would do that but i have no idea where my receipt is.
supertim
04-24-2007, 01:53 PM
A GS I went to today while out on business said that he had only ONE customer (who apparently is a regular) before me ask about the Elite. The manager also told me that his store, and most GS's were getting minimum 2-3 consoles, and the the very maximum, 10 Elites.
Obviously, people don't know about the Elite or have already bought their 360 and aren't going to buy or trade in for a new one. I hope that's the case...I really want an Elite.
Oiler_Fan
04-24-2007, 02:40 PM
A bit off topic but if anyone in the Edmonton or surrounding area is looking for an XBOX (not 360) that is in incredible shape, I am selling mine with 2 controllers, 2 DVD remotes and a hard shell carrying case for $100.
It's just sitting there and it needs a good home.
Obviously, people don't know about the Elite or have already bought their 360 and aren't going to buy or trade in for a new one. I hope that's the case...I really want an Elite.
Same here
PrimeBane
04-24-2007, 03:34 PM
I hate to be the bearer or bad news, but it seems like the Elite might be hotter than expected.
Apparently amazon.com sold out of their preorders in a hour.
I've read that Circuit City is out of preorders as well.
Good luck to those that want one.
Oiler_Fan
04-24-2007, 04:45 PM
So here's a question. Can the 20 gb hard drive be upgraded without buying an Elite? Can you just buy the hard drive?
PrimeBane
04-24-2007, 04:53 PM
Yup... but it's over $200 CDN :(
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10087511&catid=23556&logon=&langid=EN
Chugga
04-24-2007, 05:32 PM
Dave, take it back to Costco... then buy an Elite when it comes out on the weekend :D
It's fate I tells ya...
I'm actually kinda in the same boat he is right now and I like this idea. I can't "take it back" but my 1 year warranty at Gamestop officially runs out in a month and knowing my luck with 360's I can definately see it breaking down 1 day after my warranty is up. I've thought over the whole trade in my current system and go elite route a few times and it's not a bad alternative. I get a new fresh warranty, the system looks better and I'm no longer stuck deciding what I should and should not save because I'm down to 2gbs of room left.
Poochiesdead
04-24-2007, 07:42 PM
I finally threw a no hitter in a baseball game tonight, using Cole Hamels. I could never do it any of the MVP games, and just now did it in MLB2K7. Funny thing is I was playing in Colorado going for the moonshot achievement. I would have had a perfect game but Ryan Howard had an error. Still 27 up and 27 down. Afterwards I noticed the settings were set on custom for some reason, which had the same sliders as the legend setting. :eek: I feel damn lucky.
XSsoCX
04-24-2007, 07:59 PM
congrats on the no hitter. hovv many achievement points is that?
Poochiesdead
04-24-2007, 08:09 PM
100
TastySweetNutz
04-24-2007, 08:14 PM
I finally threw a no hitter in a baseball game tonight, using Cole Hamels. I could never do it any of the MVP games, and just now did it in MLB2K7. Funny thing is I was playing in Colorado going for the moonshot achievement. I would have had a perfect game but Ryan Howard had an error. Still 27 up and 27 down. Afterwards I noticed the settings were set on custom for some reason, which had the same sliders as the legend setting. :eek: I feel damn lucky.
Glad to see someone else plays MLB2K7. I personally love the game and addicted to it. Congrats on the no-no. I threw a perfect game with Chien Mien Wang, then increased the difficulty level and have now lost 5 straight.
ChicagoRules
04-24-2007, 08:31 PM
I think 2k7 is ok but for some reason I can never love another baseball game like I do MVP 2005.
chesseheads2211
04-24-2007, 09:43 PM
A quick question, i got a one year warrenty on my x-box 360 and i was wondering if i can bring it back and swap it for a Elite 360
CJF28
04-24-2007, 09:45 PM
not unless its defective
someguy6000
04-24-2007, 10:32 PM
Yup... but it's over $200 CDN :(
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10087511&catid=23556&logon=&langid=EN
it's 172.87 in the states at least that is wal-mart price.
Mr Self Destruct
04-25-2007, 12:27 AM
I have been patiently waiting for the X-Men Legends games to become backwards compatible along with Justice League Heroes.
Oh well.
someguy6000
04-25-2007, 01:16 AM
i've been waiting for star wars republic comando to hit the backwards list i don't understand how they have lego star wars 2 on the backwards list but not republic comando. :confused:
someguy6000
04-25-2007, 01:22 AM
what we are really doing when we "turn off" the mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA
TheRedOx
04-25-2007, 06:50 AM
what we are really doing when we "turn off" the mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA
Anybody try the new Pinball FX game on XBLA this morning? Just wondering how it is, looks pretty cool.
Kingpen
04-25-2007, 09:49 AM
i've been waiting for star wars republic comando to hit the backwards list i don't understand how they have lego star wars 2 on the backwards list but not republic comando. :confused:
It is now on the list. (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm) FYI. :)
HollandX
04-25-2007, 10:44 AM
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/04/hddvdcheap.jpg
TheRedOx
04-25-2007, 11:01 AM
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/04/hddvdcheap.jpg
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Fluke or are they on clearance?
HollandX
04-25-2007, 11:05 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Fluke or are they on clearance?
no idea
someguy6000
04-25-2007, 11:33 AM
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/04/hddvdcheap.jpg
wow i was going to wait but man how can you pass up that price
someguy6000
04-25-2007, 11:34 AM
It is now on the list. (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm) FYI. :)
cool thanks for the headsup
Lord Magneto
04-25-2007, 11:47 AM
Halo3 beta footage leaked - and its not the video that just came out a few weeks ago
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z6T14RcH7CY
Lord Magneto
04-25-2007, 11:55 AM
some funky new stuff in there but i like the remake of zanzabar... I def want to know what that new weapon is that replaced the lazer sword...
MPCanes
04-25-2007, 03:53 PM
Haha, the narrator sounds like Kip from Napolean Dynomite =p
Looks interesting, though, can't wait for May 16th!
Moe Szyslak
04-25-2007, 07:45 PM
I finally threw a no hitter in a baseball game tonight, using Cole Hamels. I could never do it any of the MVP games, and just now did it in MLB2K7. Funny thing is I was playing in Colorado going for the moonshot achievement. I would have had a perfect game but Ryan Howard had an error. Still 27 up and 27 down. Afterwards I noticed the settings were set on custom for some reason, which had the same sliders as the legend setting. :eek: I feel damn lucky.
I remember when I threw a no hitter on MVP, I was so pissed because the announcers didn't even acknowledge it.... If I throw a no hitter in 2K7, I want the announcers to get loud and my teammates to rush the field and carry me off.
Poochiesdead
04-25-2007, 08:23 PM
I remember when I threw a no hitter on MVP, I was so pissed because the announcers didn't even acknowledge it.... If I throw a no hitter in 2K7, I want the announcers to get loud and my teammates to rush the field and carry me off.Yea they acknowledge it, teammates rush you, etc.
My buddy would always bust my balls in MVP because I could never throw one, and he threw them all the time. If he picked the Cubs and used Zambrano, it was pretty much over.
R. Giles
04-25-2007, 08:31 PM
Just been playing Oblivion lately since taking two and a half months off. Now I know why I took time off, the game is addicting so you play so much you get sick of it for a long time.
someguy6000
04-25-2007, 10:29 PM
so was the old spice gamer challenge a one time deal? who here joined and who finished?
idiot7
04-26-2007, 04:37 AM
Any one picking up C&C3 on May 8th???? This gaming drought is killing me.....
TheRedOx
04-26-2007, 06:50 AM
so was the old spice gamer challenge a one time deal? who here joined and who finished?
Hopefully they come up with more challenges and rewards but I'm willing to bet it gets abandoned. You don't hear about the Diamond Card, Ambassador Program or the freebie weekends anymore either. Don't know if these programs just aren't successful or if MS just doesn't give a toss about following through with their ideas.
I fell short of making the 1,500 gamerscore boost myself. I ended up with around 700 achievement points in that time period, oh well :(
someguy6000
04-26-2007, 06:59 AM
i get the sinking feeling you may be right it took them until yesterday to post that the challenge closed and nothing after that i have 600 more points to get before i make it to level 3 well see when i get there if it still recognizes it. i did make the challenge and contra was pretty cool.
Smbdyfnkillme
04-26-2007, 08:58 AM
It's official: Neil O'Donnell is a legend!!!:p
The roster for All Pro Football 2K8
http://2ksports.com/games/football2k8/
Some of the "All Pros" include Raghib Ismail (no, that's not a typo), Barry Foster (also not a typo) and Merrill Hoge. I'm almost in tears laughing at this roster.
someguy6000
04-26-2007, 09:00 AM
i'll take 2k football over madden license or not.
Smbdyfnkillme
04-26-2007, 09:04 AM
i'll take 2k football over madden license or not.
That wasn't the point. The players on the roster are my beef. I'm glad that we get Barry Sanders, Johnny U and Walter Payton. However, some of those guys on the roster couldn't even spell All-Pro. Seriously, "Rocket" Ismail? That does not compute. Oh well, I'm using whatever team has Christian Okoye on it.
Scratch that: O.J. Simpson is in the game. He's now going to be my featured back.
I just saw Brian Bosworth on the list. It just keeps getting worse.
someguy6000
04-26-2007, 09:29 AM
That wasn't the point. The players on the roster are my beef. I'm glad that we get Barry Sanders, Johnny U and Walter Payton. However, some of those guys on the roster couldn't even spell All-Pro. Seriously, "Rocket" Ismail? That does not compute. Oh well, I'm using whatever team has Christian Okoye on it.
Scratch that: O.J. Simpson is in the game. He's now going to be my featured back.
I just saw Brian Bosworth on the list. It just keeps getting worse.
wasn't attacking your post i was just throwing that out there. i can't stand madden or the fact that EA thinks they have an exclusive license gives them the right to put the same game out for the next 5 years or how ever long it was.
Smbdyfnkillme
04-26-2007, 09:31 AM
wasn't attacking your post i was just throwing that out there. i can't stand madden or the fact that EA thinks they have an exclusive license gives them the right to put the same game out for the next 5 years or how ever long it was.
Don't worry about it. I wasn't mad. Yes, the last two EA games have been terrible, but I think we all knew that would happen when they took over the license. Bad decision by the NFL and we're all paying for it.
By the way, I'm still waiting to play a game of hockey against you.
Poochiesdead
04-26-2007, 09:53 AM
It's official: Neil O'Donnell is a legend!!!:p
The roster for All Pro Football 2K8
http://2ksports.com/games/football2k8/
Some of the "All Pros" include Raghib Ismail (no, that's not a typo), Barry Foster (also not a typo) and Merrill Hoge. I'm almost in tears laughing at this roster.Some of them are garbage, like Korey Stringer (The only reason anyone even knows who he is is because of his tragic death), but there are alot of huge names in there. Emmitt, Rice, Payton, Marino, Elway, Montana, etc. The lineup looks good. I'll give it a rent and see how it plays. Not sure how well it will sell though. That NFL license carries alot of clout with fairweather fans.
supertim
04-26-2007, 12:03 PM
How many achievement points do you get for beating Crackdown? After a lengthy layoff, I'm only 2 Shai Gen bosses away from bringing down all 3 factions.
I figure after I ice the other 2 bosses, I'll try to find the rest of the orbs until the Halo 3 beta. I need about 180 hidden and about 150-170 agility orbs to be finished. I'm not going to worry about my driving skills...I hate driving in games unless it's a driving game.
PrimeBane
04-26-2007, 12:07 PM
100... 50 for whiping out Shai Gen and 50 for whiping out all the gangs.
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=196
supertim
04-26-2007, 12:14 PM
100... 50 for whiping out Shai Gen and 50 for whiping out all the gangs.
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=196
Sweet...thanks for the info, PB! :)
Lord Magneto
04-26-2007, 12:20 PM
How many achievement points do you get for beating Crackdown? After a lengthy layoff, I'm only 2 Shai Gen bosses away from bringing down all 3 factions.
I figure after I ice the other 2 bosses, I'll try to find the rest of the orbs until the Halo 3 beta. I need about 180 hidden and about 150-170 agility orbs to be finished. I'm not going to worry about my driving skills...I hate driving in games unless it's a driving game.
plus theres new downloadable content coming out pretty soon... i havent played that in a while...
I rented Superman the videogame... its friggin easy as hell but pretty fun... def glad i rented it... I'm not really sure someone can pull off a better superman game... unless they put in better badguys...create an actual story... and make the environment destructable.
Chugga
04-26-2007, 02:26 PM
Some of them are garbage, like Korey Stringer (The only reason anyone even knows who he is is because of his tragic death), but there are alot of huge names in there. Emmitt, Rice, Payton, Marino, Elway, Montana, etc. The lineup looks good. I'll give it a rent and see how it plays. Not sure how well it will sell though. That NFL license carries alot of clout with fairweather fans.
I actually like the addition of Korey Stringer....not so much because I remember him what-so-ever as a player but anyway to help get his widow and his kids some extra money is cool in my book. They probably pocketed a decent amount for his likeness.
As for the player list I like it. After looking through it a bit it almost looks like a cross section of Tecmo Superbowl. I see alot of Tecmo Legends throughout the listing. But to top it off for me seeing Thurman Thomas, Steve Tasker, Andre Reed, OJ Simpson, Pete Metzelaars, Joe Delamielleure, James Lofton, etc all make me want to go out and create an alltime bills team. I'm hoping they add a few more names though, I'd like to see Jim Kelly and Bruce Smith, then I'd be all set.
Chugga
04-26-2007, 02:27 PM
Oh by the way not sure if anyone has posted this yet or not but I got in a email from the MUA VIP website saying that the new downloadable content was out as we speak. Hulk, Magneto, Venom, Sabretooth, etc
XSsoCX
04-26-2007, 03:13 PM
Do they have a list of team names for APF2K8? And I am still buying Madden first, I like the realistic sports games alot more. But Ill rent APF2K8, maybe buy vvhen it hits $30-$40.
XSsoCX
04-26-2007, 03:15 PM
Oh by the way not sure if anyone has posted this yet or not but I got in a email from the MUA VIP website saying that the new downloadable content was out as we speak. Hulk, Magneto, Venom, Sabretooth, etc
nice, Ill have to get ms points tomorrovv. 800 ms points for it?
PrimeBane
04-26-2007, 03:32 PM
500 per pack or 800 for both...
Smbdyfnkillme
04-26-2007, 04:12 PM
Some of them are garbage, like Korey Stringer (The only reason anyone even knows who he is is because of his tragic death), but there are alot of huge names in there. Emmitt, Rice, Payton, Marino, Elway, Montana, etc. The lineup looks good. I'll give it a rent and see how it plays. Not sure how well it will sell though. That NFL license carries alot of clout with fairweather fans.
I'm still probably going to buy it. I was under the impression that it was going to be all legends. The first name I saw was Neil O'Donnell and I was shocked that he would even be on the game. Oh well, I guess that had to fill out the roster with somebody. The rumor is that EA heard about this game and tried to sign some legends to an exclusive deal so they wouldn't appear in this game.
Chugga
04-26-2007, 07:27 PM
Heads up to anyone out there thinking about buying the 120gb HD. I could really use that data transfer wire if you could loan it out for a day or 2. Otherwise I have no way of getting my game data from my 20gb drive to the 120gb drive.
pyrrhonist
04-26-2007, 07:36 PM
Otherwise I have no way of getting my game data from my 20gb drive to the 120gb drive.
Not so, hermano!
That said, we will provide a free Hard-Drive Migration Kit redeemable at Xbox.com to those wishing to transfer data from an existing Xbox 360 to Elite.
It's what Microsoft is saying, and here's an IGN article for you, if you want to read the rest:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/783/783873p1.html
I am going now to give my system another try (after 3 days of not trying to use it at all), and see if I'm keeping it, or if it is going bye-bye.
Chugga
04-26-2007, 07:48 PM
Oh well thats awesome news then....I'm going to try to buy the Elite system from Best Buy and get their 2 year warranty since my current 360's warranty is up at the end of next month. I figure I should be good with 2 more years.
Pyrrhonist if you do get rid of your 360 might I suggest you buy it again, but pick up a warranty from somewhere that way when the 360 breaks (and believe me it will) you just drive right down and get a new one. Thats what I've done with gamestop the last 2 times.
someguy6000
04-26-2007, 11:07 PM
Not so, hermano!
It's what Microsoft is saying, and here's an IGN article for you, if you want to read the rest:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/783/783873p1.html
I am going now to give my system another try (after 3 days of not trying to use it at all), and see if I'm keeping it, or if it is going bye-bye.
awesome news now i really have no desire to buy an elite. just going for the HD
JaylisJayP
04-27-2007, 08:38 AM
Hell yeah, I beat Guitar Hero on Hard this morning. Man, Carry Me Home is a beeeeeyooootch.
coogrfan
04-27-2007, 12:17 PM
IGN posted a hands-on preview of NCAA Football 08 yesterday, with new screens and a short teaser vid.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/783/783730p1.html
MPCanes
04-27-2007, 01:23 PM
NCAA 07 was a fine first effort - at least the dynasty mode wasn't horribly broken like Madden franchise mode. Hopefully they can refine the actual gameplay, expand recruiting and coaching, and really make it something special.
avsfan21
04-27-2007, 01:44 PM
I wish they would add the create a school back in. I missed that in the last one.
MattsGraphs
04-27-2007, 08:15 PM
I just got Xbox live today I tried it out alittle but im I got a error 3/4 into a match it said too many users so connection speed has decreased any idea what these is from?
someguy6000
04-27-2007, 09:59 PM
I just got Xbox live today I tried it out alittle but im I got a error 3/4 into a match it said too many users so connection speed has decreased any idea what these is from?
just means the lag is really bad for anyone to have a decent game i've mostly seen this in gears of war and usually it goes away after awhile
Found a bunch of the black controllers and 120GB yesterday on the floor for sale.
supertim
04-28-2007, 10:58 AM
I've seen the black controllers and HDD's all over town...can't wait for UPS to deliver my Elite on Monday:):):)
pyrrhonist
04-28-2007, 04:10 PM
Pyrrhonist if you do get rid of your 360 might I suggest you buy it again, but pick up a warranty from somewhere that way when the 360 breaks (and believe me it will) you just drive right down and get a new one. Thats what I've done with gamestop the last 2 times.
Well, I decided to fire up the 360 for the first time since the day I got back from "repairs" (I got it on Monday) and......it's still jacked. In just 2 hours of gaming, I got 4 disc unreadable errors, and with only 2 different games. What a joke. :mad:
I am certainly going to return the one I have to Costco, but only after securing a copy of PGR3 to return it with (I must return all parts of the original bundle I bought). I will have to think deeply on whether or not I want another system, Chugga. If I did, I'd need to keep my current HD, so all my gameplay time isn't washed down the drain. But, that will be a long thought process.
I am utterly disappointed with this turn of events.
R. Giles
04-28-2007, 06:19 PM
Well, I decided to fire up the 360 for the first time since the day I got back from "repairs" (I got it on Monday) and......it's still jacked. In just 2 hours of gaming, I got 4 disc unreadable errors, and with only 2 different games. What a joke. :mad:
I am certainly going to return the one I have to Costco, but only after securing a copy of PGR3 to return it with (I must return all parts of the original bundle I bought). I will have to think deeply on whether or not I want another system, Chugga. If I did, I'd need to keep my current HD, so all my gameplay time isn't washed down the drain. But, that will be a long thought process.
I am utterly disappointed with this turn of events.
That sucks, well seems they didn't send you a refurbished one.
I now have two guilds left to beat in Oblivion since today I finished the Mages Guild.
pyrrhonist
04-29-2007, 11:13 AM
That sucks, well seems they didn't send you a refurbished one.
No, it's definitely the same one I sent them. The thing is, they were so convinced it was my DVD drive, and it would absolutely fix my issue. Oops---their bad.
R. Giles
04-29-2007, 11:19 AM
No, it's definitely the same one I sent them. The thing is, they were so convinced it was my DVD drive, and it would absolutely fix my issue. Oops---their bad.
So I guess they changed out your DVD drive?
pyrrhonist
04-29-2007, 11:31 AM
I can tell it was at least taken out, because it doesn't close the same way it did when I had the system prior to sending it in. Plus, there was wear/residue around the outer edge of where the disc tray ejects. It's funny---the games no longer freeze up like they did prior to sending it in, they just load slowly now, and the system kicks out the "disc unreadable" errors like no tomorrow. Maybe they could have done more troubleshooting with it prior to just assuming "Yeah, that's all the problem is" and sending it back.
NBA23Jordan
04-29-2007, 02:13 PM
Can I get some gamertags from you clowns. I got cory's today. What is yours, chugga?
Anyone else?
PrimeBane
04-29-2007, 02:20 PM
Mine's in the sig...
Chugga
04-29-2007, 04:32 PM
Chugga34
I'm only on late at nights though regardless of Oaktowns conspiracy theories.
XSsoCX
04-29-2007, 04:54 PM
my gamertag is my screen name here..
Mr Self Destruct
04-29-2007, 05:49 PM
The House of M
is mine.
oaktown2000
04-29-2007, 05:54 PM
Chugga34
I'm only on late at nights though regardless of Oaktowns conspiracy theories.
lol...you were just on 2 minutes ago...I even sent you a message just to document it
So...did you see any more kids you find hot, you sick bastard
You have no idea how close I am to kicking your pedophile azz off of my friends list
So anyways....I got MUA.....and am DL'ing the content...lets run some multi later.
oaktown2000
04-29-2007, 05:56 PM
What is yours, chugga??
It's currently "chugga34"...but I heard when he sets up his elite 360...he's gonna change it over to.... "I<3LittleGirls"
CJF28
04-29-2007, 06:33 PM
lol...you were just on 2 minutes ago...I even sent you a message just to document it
So...did you see any more kids you find hot, you sick bastard
You have no idea how close I am to kicking your pedophile azz off of my friends list
So anyways....I got MUA.....and am DL'ing the content...lets run some multi later.
Im downloading also, while I run up to BB to rent MUA
PrimeBane
04-29-2007, 07:27 PM
Any particular time for MUA? I've been waiting to try out the online. :)
CJF28
04-29-2007, 07:30 PM
im on right now
avsfan21
04-29-2007, 07:30 PM
Seems to be right now.
PrimeBane
04-29-2007, 07:32 PM
crap... oh well, I'll be on in a couple of hours if anyone is interested then
someguy6000
04-29-2007, 07:40 PM
gamertag is in my sig which is also my name here
supertim
04-29-2007, 08:23 PM
Can I get some gamertags from you clowns. I got cory's today. What is yours, chugga?
Anyone else?
check my sig:)
someguy6000
04-29-2007, 10:40 PM
anyone have trouble getting the elite? i seen two of them today. and i had to laugh cuz on the front it said in big letters FREE XBOX LIVE then underneath it would in small letters xbox live silver membership. i was under the impression that has always been free.
El Dubious Mung
04-29-2007, 10:55 PM
It comes with 30 days of Gold membership, though.
Chugga
04-30-2007, 01:42 AM
lol...you were just on 2 minutes ago...I even sent you a message just to document it
So...did you see any more kids you find hot, you sick bastard
You have no idea how close I am to kicking your pedophile azz off of my friends list
So anyways....I got MUA.....and am DL'ing the content...lets run some multi later.
I don't care what you say the cheerleader from Heroes is hot, that doesn't make me a pedophile, it makes me a visionary.
And me admitting that wasn't nearly as bad as you admitting to thinking Judge Judy is hot. Granted I know you 2 are about the same age, I just don't see where you find her attractive.
Chugga
04-30-2007, 01:43 AM
Any particular time for MUA? I've been waiting to try out the online. :)
I was playing MUA tonight but I guess it didn't work out. By time my system finished updating and I had downloaded the heroes/villians all over again Cory was signing off and Gears looked like a better choice. I'll be playing MUA a bit this week though
bjread
04-30-2007, 07:28 AM
Well...I was playing MUA yesterday with the new characters....I like cyclops, but that's it so far.
Anyone up for some co-op this afternoon/tonight???
Oh...anyone figure out what the "new" missions are that involve the new characters?
PrimeBane
04-30-2007, 09:26 AM
I was playing MUA tonight but I guess it didn't work out. By time my system finished updating and I had downloaded the heroes/villians all over again Cory was signing off and Gears looked like a better choice. I'll be playing MUA a bit this week though
Yeah, it turned out to be a crappy and frantic night trying to get my taxes done. :(
What a crazy fricken weekend... I couldn't even find a half hour to game. :(
PrimeBane
04-30-2007, 09:49 AM
LOL... make sure you read the Penny Arcade comic today :D
www.penny-arcade.com
TheRedOx
04-30-2007, 11:08 AM
LOL... make sure you read the Penny Arcade comic today :D
www.penny-arcade.com
LOL, that almost should be an option on the player menu sometimes.
Major Nelson linked to this hilarious review of Earth Defense Force 2017 today too - worth a read, it's pretty funny.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=74994
supertim
04-30-2007, 08:03 PM
For those who have not yet called for their 360 Data Migration Kit, here is the link to download the form to send via snail mail to receive your free kit:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/console/datamigration.htm
Scroll all the way down and click "How To Get Your Free Transfer Cable" to download the form.
The reason I was told that over the phone request could not be done was because the "transfer kits are not in our system yet." :rolleyes:
Otherwise, I'm very happy with my Elite :)
avsfan21
04-30-2007, 08:36 PM
I don't care what you say the cheerleader from Heroes is hot, that doesn't make me a pedophile, it makes me a visionary.
And me admitting that wasn't nearly as bad as you admitting to thinking Judge Judy is hot. Granted I know you 2 are about the same age, I just don't see where you find her attractive.
I agree with Chugga the Cheerleader in Heroes is hot.
Chugga
04-30-2007, 08:37 PM
I agree with Chugga the Cheerleader in Heroes is hot.
Thank you sir. You're a gentleman and a scholar. Neither of which are pedophiles.
Thank you sir. You're a gentleman and a scholar. Neither of which are pedophiles.
now, if you would have said the little girl in Remember the Titans was hot, then you'd be a pedophile... even though it's the same girl
http://www.bartcop.com/hayden-panettiere-heroes.jpg
http://www.willpattoncollection.com/YoustDaughtersm.jpg
XSsoCX
04-30-2007, 09:23 PM
Hayden Panettiere is very hot. She's almost 18. :D
XSsoCX
04-30-2007, 09:40 PM
im dling the new MUA characters right now. :D anyone want to co-op?
CJF28
04-30-2007, 10:10 PM
ill be on in a sec
XSsoCX
05-01-2007, 11:41 AM
In order to get achievements like Cyclops talking to Jean, Magneto talking to Professor X, and Sabretooth mistaken for Wolverine do you have to start a new game or can you just go to the Inner Sanctum and do them?
someguy6000
05-01-2007, 12:16 PM
not sure but how would wolverine be mistaken for sabertooth?
Gooker1
05-01-2007, 12:18 PM
I've just started act 2 - should I go ahead and DL the new characters? My characters are around level 17-18 right now.
bjread
05-01-2007, 12:33 PM
When you DL the new characters they will be level 1 no matter what your guys already are. So you might as well.
Are those the only new achievements...in the sanctum sanctorum??
XSsoCX
05-01-2007, 01:16 PM
no they have unlock uniform achievements also. and i believe there are a few others.
XSsoCX
05-01-2007, 01:17 PM
not sure but how would wolverine be mistaken for sabertooth?
i dont know thats what im trying to figure out.
avsfan21
05-01-2007, 01:20 PM
Well I signed up for a Diamond Card. Figured what the hell. I also bought MUA and Top Spin today.
CJF28
05-01-2007, 01:25 PM
I just got my diamond card two weeks ago. Signed up for it last May
XSsoCX
05-01-2007, 01:26 PM
cool avs. MUA is a fun game if you want to play co op sometime hit me up. and top spin always look good. now whats the diamond card?
supertim
05-01-2007, 01:36 PM
The last few nights I've seen everyone playing MUA online...is it that good of a game?
Is it one that's more fun with a buddy (online) than it is in single player?
Should I run out and buy it so I can co-op with you guys online, or is it worth that much?
Even though I suck at it, it seems none of you guys play RS:V or GRAW2 online anymore. Sigh.
Also, how is Superman Returns? Movie videogames always suck, but Supes is my all time fave...is it a rental or a discount bin kind of game?
XSsoCX
05-01-2007, 02:04 PM
MUA is a fun single player game, idk about online i havent played it online with anyone yet.
As for RS:V we used to play that online alot, more into Gears with the new game mode now. I like Gears alot more than RS:V, I only bought that to play online with people. I havent beat the single player mode yet.
Superman Returns seems fun(and I cant stand Supes) but Ive only played the demo. If I were you I would dl the demo or rent it first.
Chugga
05-01-2007, 02:12 PM
Marvel Ultimate Alliance is the best game when you've got 3 other people over to play the game with you. The game gets held back online mainly because of just really bad lag issues. You'll get used to it after a few minutes but it's evident regardless of how good of a connection your playing on everything you're pressing on your controller is happening at least a 1-2 seconds after on the tv screen. When you just have 3 other people over the gameplay is seemless, no slowdown, just 4 people flat out owning every chump that Doom throws at you.
The game gets highly repetitive but if you take breaks from it you'll have a fun time playing through the entire game....hell I've played through it twice now going on 3 times.
oaktown2000
05-01-2007, 02:48 PM
If you want it to be really fun...just invite chugga to a co-op game...let him be the Hulk....let him attack the enemies....and then you grab all the gold coins and listen to him whine :D
Chugga
05-01-2007, 03:00 PM
The Hulk successfully boxed you out from a bunch of coins yesterday. The best one was where I pulled the Jeff Gordon and took the inside track after going up the stairs to sweep the entire platform of coins.
I had some lowlites too though...like running around a coin like 5 times and someone running right over it to take it.
meatgoat
05-01-2007, 03:16 PM
Sooo is the new MUA dl worth the $10?? I haven't played the game in eons but playing as Hulk or Venom has intrigued me.
avsfan21
05-01-2007, 03:20 PM
I like having Doom on my team. It just seems Ironic that he is the bad guy, yet fighting to stop it.
oaktown2000
05-01-2007, 03:22 PM
I had some lowlites too though...like running around a coin like 5 times and someone running right over it to take it.
lol...I've started to use the old "camera turning" technique to throw you off when your chasing the coins :p
oaktown2000
05-01-2007, 03:25 PM
Sooo is the new MUA dl worth the $10?? I haven't played the game in eons but playing as Hulk or Venom has intrigued me.
I think it actually equals up to $12.50.
It all depends. I ended up buying it. If you like playing the game, then having some new skins with some new powers is pretty cool. If you are already bored with the gameplay itself.....some new skins and powers isn't gonna change the actual gameplay and you would probably be bored with it again in a short matter of time. Hulk and Venom, by the way, are my two favorite additoins. Magneto is pretty sweet as well.
Chugga
05-01-2007, 03:32 PM
I like Cyclops and Hawkeye alot. Obviously Hulk is my player of choice because he's my favorite superhero but when it comes to just trying all of the characters out I really liked Hawkeye and Cyclops...both of them were killing machines and rarely if ever lost any health in the process.
XSsoCX
05-01-2007, 03:49 PM
I like Magneto, Venom, Cyclops and Sabretooth the most of the new characters. Doom is pretty cool also and like Avs said its pretty odd using Doom since he's the main baddie.
Can someone help me find the figures for Daredevil and Black Panther!?!? I also need to get Silver Surfer, but you guys said I have to play all the comic side stories. Though I read somewhere that you unlock SS by beating Galactus. But he's not unlocked...So I guess I have to find and beat all the side stories.
CJF28
05-01-2007, 04:25 PM
I think it actually equals up to $12.50.
It all depends. I ended up buying it. If you like playing the game, then having some new skins with some new powers is pretty cool. If you are already bored with the gameplay itself.....some new skins and powers isn't gonna change the actual gameplay and you would probably be bored with it again in a short matter of time. Hulk and Venom, by the way, are my two favorite additoins. Magneto is pretty sweet as well.
actually, it is $10 for both.
the hero OR villain pack is 500pts each, but you can get both for 800pts. And a 1600pt card costs $20, so.....
oaktown2000
05-01-2007, 05:03 PM
actually, it is $10 for both.
the hero OR villain pack is 500pts each, but you can get both for 800pts. And a 1600pt card costs $20, so.....
you're right...I just bought more points via LIVE a couple weeks ago and it was $25......i thought it was for only 1600 points....but it was in fact for 2000 points. I was kinda wondering why I hadn't ran out of points yet...I think i have right around 400 left now.
Lord Magneto
05-01-2007, 05:05 PM
4 more gow maps are coming out this thurs...
oaktown2000
05-01-2007, 05:09 PM
what!?!?!?
info?
CJF28
05-01-2007, 05:54 PM
sweet. Got a long weekend coming up. We'll have to rock it
cory
CJF28
05-01-2007, 05:56 PM
what!?!?!?
info?
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2007/0501-gowhiddenfronts.htm?WText.camp=TS2-GoWMapPack&WText.campSrc=Home
Newsflash:
New Gears of War Multiplayer Map Pack
Published May 1, 2007
On Thursday, May 3, at 9 A.M. GMT, ready your weapons and prepare for battle as Gears of War® (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/g/gearsofwar/default.htm), rated M for Mature, releases four new action-packed multiplayer maps in the thrilling "Hidden Fronts" Multiplayer Map Pack.
COG soldiers and the Locust Horde will clash once again for control of these four dynamic new areas, including Bullet Marsh, Garden, Process, and Subway.
http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/62692B5F-8DC3-43B4-A3D1-024D06147221/0/ilmgowmappackBulletMarsh_02.jpg
Bullet Marsh
In this Kryll-infested swamp, an old generator still powers the area lights. A few stray bullets could easily knock out the generator, leaving combatants to fend for themselves against the Kryll.
http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/E6A8D7BC-A797-4308-8AC0-03FB06503773/0/ilmgowmappackGarden_01.jpg
Garden
This overgrown and crumbling conservatory still has a working fertilization and pesticide system. This system can pose a serious hazard to anyone who ventures into the greenhouse without first venting the air.
http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/10D65960-01D3-4890-8475-3ECDC54916FB/0/ilmgowmappackProcess_01.jpg
Process
Teams must fight for control of this subterranean Imulsion processing plant, still active despite the cessation of the Pendulum wars.
http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/B693C776-AF43-446A-90F8-F8CCEC55E709/0/ilmgowmappackSubway_01.jpg
Subway
Timgad 's Central Subway station used to serve as a central hub for commuters. Now the tunnels are crawling with Locust.
The "Hidden Fronts" Multiplayer Map Pack will explode onto Xbox LIVE® Marketplace on May 3 for 800 Microsoft Points as you steady your aim, pull the pin from your grenades, and fir up your chainsaw once more! All four of the new maps will be made available at no cost over Xbox LIVE on Sept. 3, 2007.
CJF28
05-01-2007, 05:58 PM
so, it looks like they cost on May 3rd, but on Sept 3rd, they'll be free?
Nemestrokus
05-01-2007, 06:02 PM
Yup, stupid that Microsoft is making Epic charge people for the maps. Epic said that all they're downloadble content will be free, but I guess Microsoft made them change. I'm still asking myself if I should just wait for the maps to be free or just buy them.
Edit: Bullet Marsh looks pretty interesting though, there's gonna be kryll?
avsfan21
05-01-2007, 06:13 PM
Why wouldnt they? Microsoft is the one making the money with the downloads since you have to get the points through them.
oaktown2000
05-01-2007, 06:50 PM
Does it sound like some of those maps are being described as "active" environments types????
Like you can take out the generators...causing the lights to go out...causign the kryll to attack the un-lit areas.
Like you have to ventilate the green house some way or you'll take damage from breathing the pesticides.
XSsoCX
05-01-2007, 07:03 PM
sweet looks like ill be buying more ms points nxt tuesday.
avsfan21
05-01-2007, 07:04 PM
Ah tough decision. To wait and get them for free or to pay for the new maps?
oaktown2000
05-01-2007, 07:23 PM
Ah tough decision. To wait and get them for free or to pay for the new maps?
lol...not for me...maybe if it was only a 4 day, or a 4 week wait....but a four month wait...lol....no one will even care about those maps in 4 months
Lord Magneto
05-01-2007, 07:34 PM
in 4 months wont halo 3 be out... once that comes out i aint playin squat
favrefan#4
05-01-2007, 07:40 PM
Finally got my online for my 360 running been playing nba 2k7 on for a few days and some madden wouldnt mind playing some GOW with you guys but I must warn you I am great target practice so dont laugh at me for sucking:D
avsfan21
05-01-2007, 07:47 PM
I still suck at GOW.
CJF28
05-01-2007, 07:55 PM
Finally got my online for my 360 running been playing nba 2k7 on for a few days and some madden wouldnt mind playing some GOW with you guys but I must warn you I am great target practice so dont laugh at me for sucking:D
nah, we only laugh at Primebane. Mainly because he is Canadian, but also cuz he is target practice as well
Nemestrokus
05-01-2007, 08:46 PM
nah, we only laugh at Primebane. Mainly because he is Canadian, but also cuz he is target practice as well
I'm also Canadian. :)
PrimeBane
05-01-2007, 09:07 PM
I seem to remember holding my own just fine last time :p
rsoaker23
05-01-2007, 09:24 PM
bump
avsfan21
05-01-2007, 09:26 PM
bump for what it couldnt have been that far down the page?
someguy6000
05-02-2007, 12:03 AM
active environments pretty cool idea. think they are trying to force cooperation on teams. kinda slows down the run and gun with the shotgun.
CJF28
05-02-2007, 02:14 PM
MUA tonite? I got dibs on Cyclops
PrimeBane
05-02-2007, 02:18 PM
I'm teaching tonight so count me out. :( (yeah, I know "how's that different from any other night?") :p
On the Gears of War front, 4 new maps out tomorrow. :D
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/784/784752p1.html
800 MS points to start... free as of September 3rd.
Chugga
05-02-2007, 02:19 PM
It's my friends birthday tonight I've been told I'm not allowed to leave until he's passed out. So I might not be able to make it on tonight at a reasonable time
avsfan21
05-02-2007, 02:20 PM
I would be up for MUA if you guys are.
CJF28
05-02-2007, 02:22 PM
I'm teaching tonight so count me out. :( (yeah, I know "how's that different from any other night?") :p
On the Gears of War front, 4 new maps out tomorrow. :D
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/784/784752p1.html
800 MS points to start... free as of September 3rd.
thats why I feared tonite may be our last chance at a group MUA tonite. I know, Ill be downloading the maps tomorrow.
PrimeBane
05-02-2007, 02:25 PM
It's my friends birthday tonight I've been told I'm not allowed to leave until he's passed out. So I might not be able to make it on tonight at a reasonable time
Take a night off... get tanked up. :D
Master Windu
05-02-2007, 04:41 PM
I would be up for MUA if you guys are.
What time do you guys play MUA? Time zome please. telling my 9pm doesn't help me any when I'm on the east coast. I have to say.. I love Spider-man and the Hulk. Thor is becoming a fast fav, and of course Wolverine.
CJF28
05-02-2007, 04:53 PM
ill beon at 7PM PST
CJF28
05-02-2007, 06:02 PM
Keith, with your busts, is it only Marvel or DC too? I saw these, and they made me want to start getting some
http://www.leestoyreview.com/images/news/2252.jpg
http://www.leestoyreview.com/images/news/2257.jpg
oaktown2000
05-02-2007, 06:09 PM
I stick solely with Bowen Designs...which is polystone statues of Marvel characters.
I believe those are Koto Vinyl statues.....but they are kickazz. If i was collecting DC...I'd grab them. The catwoman is incredible. Not too crazy about the bottom half sculpt on SuperGirl....something looks odd with her right leg....like its bending..i dunno :confused:
Since you seem to like the "female" ones...they have an entire line of busts (which is like a half statue- no legs/sometimes no arms) for the female DC characters. "The Women of DC"...check em out.
avsfan21
05-02-2007, 06:10 PM
How about Mary Jane and Emma Frost?
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/6818_press01-001.jpg
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/7178_press01-001.jpg
CJF28
05-02-2007, 06:12 PM
yea, they were complaining about how bad the hair looks on Emma.
Keith, how tall are your full figured Marvels? like the black panther?
avsfan21
05-02-2007, 06:15 PM
Yeah I canceled my order for Emma, I am on the wait list for the Mary Jane. Still not sure if I will get it or not though.
oaktown2000
05-02-2007, 06:25 PM
Keith, how tall are your full figured Marvels? like the black panther?
They are all in scale with each other...so different characters are bigger then others. Like Juggernaut and Hulk are HUGE. While Spider-Man is pretty small.
Just for reference...Panther is 12", while Moon Knight is 18" cause of the huge base. Hulk and Juggs are around 16"
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL483/1154050/16181809/247538207.jpg
meatgoat
05-02-2007, 06:26 PM
Geez we're talking video games in the statue thread and statues in the video game thread. I'm more confused than I was last night. :D
I have both the SS statues on order. I'd like to see that Catwoman in person first before I grab it. From the pics that might be my first DC piece.
oaktown2000
05-02-2007, 06:30 PM
Geez we're talking video games in the statue thread and statues in the video game thread. I'm more confused than I was last night. :D
I have both the SS statues on order. I'd like to see that Catwoman in person first before I grab it. From the pics that might be my first DC piece.
LOL.....I thought the exact same thing.
I'm debating on whether or not to grab Koto's re-issue of Batman as my first non-Bowen Marvel piece.
oaktown2000
05-02-2007, 06:36 PM
Eric....it seems like it was only a couple weeks ago we drove down to Joe's so I could look at statues. Now I have 13 of them :eek: I need to slow down......or spend the same amount of money on shoes/clothes for my wife. My wallet votes for slowing down :p
meatgoat
05-02-2007, 06:42 PM
Eric....it seems like it was only a couple weeks ago we drove down to Joe's so I could look at statues. Now I have 13 of them :eek: I need to slow down......or spend the same amount of money on shoes/clothes for my wife. My wallet votes for slowing down :p
13 before the 2 you're getting tomorrow?? :eek:
You've passed me by already either way. I have 7 statues with another coming from Joe tomorrow and 2 on the way from eBay.
CJF28
05-02-2007, 06:51 PM
what are decent prices for the 12" ?
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