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avsfan21
08-20-2007, 02:50 PM
Sweet just found out that the place I rent my games from is sending Bioshock. It should be here Thursday. I cant wait.

avsfan21
08-20-2007, 02:50 PM
Halo 3 maybe? :confused: :o

That is, of course, assuming that you're actually planning on getting it in the first place.

Billy doesnt like Halo because he sucks at it and has no soul.

pyrrhonist
08-20-2007, 03:44 PM
Is he coming back in the future or has he given up on gaming for a while?

He said something about not being able to play games in peace, or having willpower to say "no" to blind invites. :p

He decided that he has other financial & time priorities (his words), and decided he wasn't getting his "money's worth". That, and one of our co-workers had cash in hand shortly after he mentioned possibly selling, and I don't think he could say no. :D

XSsoCX
08-20-2007, 05:12 PM
Halo 3 maybe? :confused: :o

That is, of course, assuming that you're actually planning on getting it in the first place.

I am not a Halo fan. Most overrated game, ever.. But I will be getting it just to play with the guys I play games with on here. Thankfully tonight when I bought BioShock my friend said she could get me Halo3 for a "good price". So it may be worth it.

avsfan21
08-20-2007, 05:19 PM
Strange how you can declare a game the most overrated game ever without ever playing it.

XSsoCX
08-20-2007, 05:30 PM
How is that strange? I believe I played it with the Beta. Why do you care anyways? Did you make it?

avsfan21
08-20-2007, 05:33 PM
I believe there is more to the game than what was in the Halo 3 beta.

XSsoCX
08-20-2007, 06:16 PM
Great!

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-20-2007, 06:56 PM
Great!

Blasphemer!:p :D

SpankedEagle
08-20-2007, 08:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmt0lv69lyU

for anyone still playing dead rising, this walkthrough really helps with frank the pimp and tour guide.

pyrrhonist
08-20-2007, 09:18 PM
This isn't the Playstation thread, is it? When I saw "most overrated game ever", I was looking for the next words to be "Final Fantasy VII". ;)

WitchKingOfAngmar
08-20-2007, 11:31 PM
This isn't the Playstation thread, is it? When I saw "most overrated game ever", I was looking for the next words to be "Final Fantasy VII". ;)

Or any FF for that matter...or most of the MGS series.....

Chugga
08-21-2007, 12:47 AM
This isn't the Playstation thread, is it? When I saw "most overrated game ever", I was looking for the next words to be "Final Fantasy VII". ;)

Final Fantasy 7 makes Halo 2 look like one of those ad-games on the side panels of most websites.

Beat the covenant and win a free PS3-Ipod!

Lord Magneto
08-21-2007, 05:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmt0lv69lyU

for anyone still playing dead rising, this walkthrough really helps with frank the pimp and tour guide.

thanks man... i had no clue how to get that one

SpawnSC
08-21-2007, 06:20 AM
last night I started playing the BioShock demo and wow! i was truly amazed with the demo I didn't finish it but just overall gameplay is excellent and ill get it on a price drop :P

Gooker1
08-21-2007, 08:15 AM
Did anyone DL the Skate demo? I've heard nothing but good news from previews on this game.

PrimeBane
08-21-2007, 09:03 AM
Sorry for the "red rage" last night fellas... I can honestly say I've never been one shot shotgunned so many times in one game. And it didn't seem to matter when... even rolling didn't avoid it.

I couldn't even win a melee. :(

avsfan21
08-21-2007, 09:05 AM
You missed a few good rounds though. We had one round where that the Cog won by 1 point and the next round Cog won by 5 points I believe.

bjread
08-21-2007, 09:53 AM
Who is up for some madden tonight? I haven't played online yet and would like to try it with someone from here.

PrimeBane
08-21-2007, 09:54 AM
You missed a few good rounds though. We had one round where that the Cog won by 1 point and the next round Cog won by 5 points I believe.

I probably should have stayed up... I didn't fall asleep for 2 hours after. :(

someguy6000
08-21-2007, 10:08 AM
yeah sorry about that scott if it makes you feel better i ended up on the team where everyone quit even deathburger and aka quit someone else can host next time.

PrimeBane
08-21-2007, 10:13 AM
It was strange... everyone was complaining about the same problems other than the "chainsawing maniac" we picked up for a while.

Normally it's not a problem when you host.

someguy6000
08-21-2007, 10:17 AM
yeah my connection was really helping me out last night i chainsawed a guy through a railing in canals while he was standing on the stairs. i believe i caught you with a chainsaw vacum as well. maybe it was the porn i was downloading....i mean "movies"

pyrrhonist
08-21-2007, 10:58 AM
Final Fantasy 7 makes Halo 2 look like one of those ad-games on the side panels of most websites

I was hoping to draw you out, Chugga...at least I get a response out of you here on the boards! ;)

I would never call Halo, Halo 2, or even Halo 3 the "best game ever", but they're definitely good games. I still FFVII as the best game for "today's gamers", aka those who never really played games prior to the original Playstation coming out. FFVII has nothing on Zelda: A Link to the Past or Super Metroid. :D

SpankedEagle
08-21-2007, 05:06 PM
yay i got frank the pimp and tour guide.

Chugga
08-21-2007, 06:51 PM
I was hoping to draw you out, Chugga...at least I get a response out of you here on the boards! ;)

I would never call Halo, Halo 2, or even Halo 3 the "best game ever", but they're definitely good games. I still FFVII as the best game for "today's gamers", aka those who never really played games prior to the original Playstation coming out. FFVII has nothing on Zelda: A Link to the Past or Super Metroid. :D

I loved Halo....I think the first Halo was so freakin amazing. I personally feel Halo2 was a step down, it's one of those if it's not broke don't fix it type things. I'm not saying Halo2 was a garbage game, I just think in the grand scheme of things Halo the original was like a 9.9 and Halo2 was a 9.3.

With that being said.....say what you will about Final Fantasy VII but it was a groundbreaking game. I'm not saying the gameplay was amazing or the controls or whatever else you want to point to was that great. But Final Fantasy 7 had a story that was on par if not better then most of the summer blockbusters of the last 10 years. Any game that can have those type of production values and actually deliver on them just has to get some sort of credit for it's contributions to gaming.

I know some people will hail it the best game ever made and they are certainly overrating it....but I can't help but to think FFVII really opened doors in terms of storytelling and music like it had never been before in games. There have been better games since FF7, there have been better RPG's since FF7, hell there have been better final fantasies since FF7....but at least to me I gotta respect how they went out there said "we are going to toss every single damn resource we have at this game and hope it works out" and when you give it everything you got and you deliver it's a beautiful thing.

Oh by the way sorry for not responding to your Xbox Live message but I was in private chat at the time and by time I got out I had completely forgotten and you were likely offline.

MPCanes
08-21-2007, 07:44 PM
YES

PHYSICS BASED FOOTBALL!

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/814/814249p2.html

Just shot up to my #1 most wanted title.

CJF28
08-21-2007, 07:51 PM
im about ready to plug in bioshock. see you guys in a few days.............

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-21-2007, 07:56 PM
yeah sorry about that scott if it makes you feel better i ended up on the team where everyone quit even deathburger and aka quit someone else can host next time.

Sorry about that guys, but i was tired and i had to be at work in 2.5 hours after that, i shoulda been in bed earlier, but priorities man, priorities :D

TastySweetNutz
08-21-2007, 10:03 PM
im about ready to plug in bioshock. see you guys in a few days.............

I just came up for air after about 2 hours of play. Damn this game is so damn fun. Love the setting and atmosphere.

CJF28
08-21-2007, 10:06 PM
i dont care if they say it is only 15-20 gameplay. I am enjoying it very much. This is most likely one of the funest games I have purchased. My son and I have been squelling like little piggies, all throughout the game

TastySweetNutz
08-21-2007, 10:40 PM
I let out one of those squeals during the scene where the Big Daddy makes it's first appearance.

someguy6000
08-21-2007, 11:22 PM
i gotta wait until thursday for bioshock but man i can't wait

avsfan21
08-21-2007, 11:35 PM
i gotta wait until thursday for bioshock but man i can't wait

Same here.

CJF28
08-22-2007, 12:00 AM
I let out one of those squeals during the scene where the Big Daddy makes it's first appearance.

those squeals just keep coming for me. One, when the lights go out, and you have a shotgun battle in the dark with about 5 nurses and a doctor. then again, I picked something up off a desk, and turn around, and Im nose to nose with a doctor. he didnt attack me or anything, he was just standing right in my face. freaked me out.

CJF28
08-22-2007, 12:01 AM
PS, inscenarate the corpse in the furnace. it gives out a Tonic that gives you EVE whenever you hack anything. bot, turret, camera, or vending machine

grimlock33
08-22-2007, 12:35 AM
Thought you guys might find this funny if you haven't seen it.

Distended Warranty (http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/678540/Red_Ring_of_Death_by_Distended_Warranty.html)

CJF28
08-22-2007, 04:18 AM
ok, Ive played it for 8 hours now. Im going to bed.

great game. damn, I hate the big daddies

Lord Magneto
08-22-2007, 08:19 AM
So was anyone able to signup for the call of duty 4 beta lastnight?

I couldnt get on the site...

www.charlieoscardelta.com

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 09:53 AM
So was anyone able to signup for the call of duty 4 beta lastnight?

I couldnt get on the site...

www.charlieoscardelta.com

Regarding the CoD4:MW MP Public Beta: later this week the countdown clock will be going up, and don't worry it's a short one! We've been hard at work on finalizing the details of the Beta, and we're excited to finally let you know when you'll be able to join!

Soon it looks like, i want to test it out.

SpawnSC
08-22-2007, 10:02 AM
crap the site is still down!

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 10:20 AM
It worked for me.:confused:

Radiation74
08-22-2007, 10:26 AM
Beta isn't up yet though.

Are Betas as big a deal for us as they used to be? I mean there were a gazillion H3 beta testers. It's like they send out games to us in the mail anymore.

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 10:28 AM
How did the Halo 3 beta work anyway? I mean how did they get it to you? Email or somethin?

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 10:36 AM
How did the Halo 3 beta work anyway? I mean how did they get it to you? Email or somethin?

There were 3 ways:

1. You could sign up and hope for the luck of the draw
2. You could play 3 hours of Halo 2 on certain dates then be the first of 13,000 and some to register.
3. Buy Crackdown

Radiation74
08-22-2007, 10:37 AM
yup, it was email for me, beta key was alos included with Crackdown.... but there were alot of people who got in.

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 10:38 AM
well i'm going to buy crackdown anyway, but would it still be in it if i did get it? Assuming i bought it new.

MPCanes
08-22-2007, 10:38 AM
well i'm going to buy crackdown anyway, but would it still be in it if i did get it? Assuming i bought it new.

The beta ended back in june, so no

Radiation74
08-22-2007, 10:40 AM
well i'm going to buy crackdown anyway, but would it still be in it if i did get it? Assuming i bought it new.


noh the beta is long done. You could still have the beta downloaded, but you would be unable to do anything with it, except play Shadowrun... lol.

Radiation74
08-22-2007, 10:41 AM
well i'm going to buy crackdown anyway, but would it still be in it if i did get it? Assuming i bought it new.


and that is a fun game anyway, I played it alot.

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 10:45 AM
i'm playing it now :D I'm still going to buy it, at least now i don't have to buy it new. O well i have halo 3 paid for, so i don't care about the beta, i can wait :D sort of.

Lord Magneto
08-22-2007, 10:48 AM
i havent played crackdown since the beta and they had a bunch of new content that came out for it... new weapons and vehicles I believe....

Radiation74
08-22-2007, 10:51 AM
Is the new content free now?

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 10:59 AM
2 of 3 are free. I forget which ones though.

pyrrhonist
08-22-2007, 11:00 AM
im about ready to plug in bioshock. see you guys in a few days.............

Sadly, I had agreed to play Smackdown vs Raw '07 online with a local buddy of mine last night already, so I only got about 25 minutes of play in on BioShock (About as far as I had gotten in the demo). :mad: :mad: I'm ready to immerse myself, though! :D

pyrrhonist
08-22-2007, 11:02 AM
Here is an article regarding a tour/presentation of Rock Band over in Europe from IGN:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/814/814506p1.html


Looks like we have an updated track listing now (New songs!):

Rolling Stones - "Gimme Shelter"
The Who - "Won't Get Fooled Again"
Mountain - "Mississippi Queen"
David Bowie - "Suffragette City"
Black Sabbath - "Paranoid"
Blue Oyster Cult - "Don't Fear the Reaper"
The Ramones - "Blitzkrieg Bop”
Deep Purple - "Highway Star"
Rush - "Tom Sawyer"*
Bon Jovi - "Wanted Dead or Alive"
The Clash - "Should I Stay or Should I Go"
Faith No More - "Epic"
Foo Fighters - "Learn to Fly"
Metallica - "Enter Sandman"
Nirvana - "In Bloom"
Stone Temple Pilots - "Vasoline"
Weezer - "Say It Ain't So"
Smashing Pumpkins - "Cherub Rock"
Radiohead - "Creep"
Beastie Boys - "Sabotage"
The Hives - "Main Offender"
Queens of the Stone Age - "Go With the Flow"
The Strokes - "Reptilia"
Jet - "Are You Gonna Be My Girl"
OK Go - "Here It Goes Again"
Nine Inch Nails - "The Hand That Feeds"

Radiation74
08-22-2007, 11:02 AM
The bioshock demo looks amazing, no doubt. But I am worried that this game is gonna be one of those ones where I am like " was I just here, where do I go now?"

Is the game like that? or is it just the demo?

pyrrhonist
08-22-2007, 11:04 AM
The bioshock demo looks amazing, no doubt. But I am worried that this game is gonna be one of those ones where I am like " was I just here, where do I go now?"

So far, I'd say "no", but I'm not in far enough. The developers had said in articles in EGM & online before that there'd be some backtracking, but not enough to piss you off (Soul Reaver, for example). In the early part of the game, it pretty much holds your hand and shows you where to go. Maybe Cory can answer your question best, as he's farthest of most of us, I'd assume (No spoilers, man!).

pyrrhonist
08-22-2007, 11:11 AM
I loved Halo....I think the first Halo was so freakin amazing. I personally feel Halo2 was a step down, it's one of those if it's not broke don't fix it type things. I'm not saying Halo2 was a garbage game, I just think in the grand scheme of things Halo the original was like a 9.9 and Halo2 was a 9.3.

Well said. I know Halo 2 is newer, but I think I had more fun with Halo---at least with the multi. We had LAN parties galore on the original game, but we didn't enjoy the weapon balance in Halo 2 as much. Plus, you could tell the maps were catering to huge battles online, whereas we could maybe get 6-8 gamers to one house on a weekend night, what with life and work schedules. I still like the campaign of Halo 2, as far as size and "epicness". At least there is a campaign mode (**cough**Gears**cough**).

With that being said.....say what you will about Final Fantasy VII but it was a groundbreaking game. I'm not saying the gameplay was amazing or the controls or whatever else you want to point to was that great. But Final Fantasy 7 had a story that was on par if not better then most of the summer blockbusters of the last 10 years. Any game that can have those type of production values and actually deliver on them just has to get some sort of credit for it's contributions to gaming.

I don't hate FFVII (I believe we've discussed this before, but here goes again!), but I think its graphics and the fact it was being released during the "Playstation generation" helped to garner so much attention. FFVI is a better game, IMO. Characters who don't whine their asses off like Cloud, and Kefka is by far more diabolical than Sephiroth. :eek: I even liked FFVIII a bit more, but I know it's taboo to like that game. ;) That being said, the emotions conveyed in FFVII were powerful, even if the story went south on Disc 2. But back to my "Playstation generation" comment, I just think that if gaming wasn't as "uncool" in the days of the NES, SNES, Genesis, Master System, etc, more people would've experienced the Chrono Triggers, FFVI's, and Dragon Warriors, and they'd get more than just a passing mention. I guess I'm just an old codger. :D

Oh by the way sorry for not responding to your Xbox Live message but I was in private chat at the time and by time I got out I had completely forgotten and you were likely offline.

It's cool, man. I figure you were all "Maddened up", having just come home with the game and all. I was just shocked to see you actually playing a game on your 360, instead of signing onto the dashboard and staying there. :p

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 11:17 AM
Here is an article regarding a tour/presentation of Rock Band over in Europe from IGN:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/814/814506p1.html


Looks like we have an updated track listing now (New songs!):

Rolling Stones - "Gimme Shelter"
The Who - "Won't Get Fooled Again"
Mountain - "Mississippi Queen"
David Bowie - "Suffragette City"
Black Sabbath - "Paranoid"
Blue Oyster Cult - "Don't Fear the Reaper"
The Ramones - "Blitzkrieg Bop”
Deep Purple - "Highway Star"
Rush - "Tom Sawyer"*
Bon Jovi - "Wanted Dead or Alive"
The Clash - "Should I Stay or Should I Go"
Faith No More - "Epic"
Foo Fighters - "Learn to Fly"
Metallica - "Enter Sandman"
Nirvana - "In Bloom"
Stone Temple Pilots - "Vasoline"
Weezer - "Say It Ain't So"
Smashing Pumpkins - "Cherub Rock"
Radiohead - "Creep"
Beastie Boys - "Sabotage"
The Hives - "Main Offender"
Queens of the Stone Age - "Go With the Flow"
The Strokes - "Reptilia"
Jet - "Are You Gonna Be My Girl"
OK Go - "Here It Goes Again"
Nine Inch Nails - "The Hand That Feeds"

The good thing about this game is, i don't have to buy the full package since my Xplorer guitar will work with it, that'll save me some dough.

XSsoCX
08-22-2007, 11:27 AM
BioShock > Everyday life.

Graham
08-22-2007, 11:44 AM
The good thing about this game is, i don't have to buy the full package since my Xplorer guitar will work with it, that'll save me some dough.

i thought the rock band guitar had more buttons?

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 11:44 AM
It does, but I think you can get away without them.

Graham
08-22-2007, 11:53 AM
cool....i hope that's the case then. i was hoping to get away with just buying rock band with the drums...

Tat2
08-22-2007, 12:20 PM
still on the fence about BioShock... haven't tried the demo though.

XSsoCX
08-22-2007, 12:27 PM
so how can you be on the fence about it?? Play it man, it's awesome and addicting. If you don't believe me, ask Cory.

someguy6000
08-22-2007, 12:27 PM
still on the fence about BioShock... haven't tried the demo though.

try the demo and you won't be on the fence

The good thing about this game is, i don't have to buy the full package since my Xplorer guitar will work with it, that'll save me some dough. i so want to try the drum set.

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 12:34 PM
I played the demo and I'm on the fence.

Is it worth $60 for a game with just single player? I guess I'm spoiled with all the online play most other games offer.

$400 in fencing material doesn't help the cause either. :(

Chugga
08-22-2007, 12:34 PM
Well said. I know Halo 2 is newer, but I think I had more fun with Halo---at least with the multi. We had LAN parties galore on the original game, but we didn't enjoy the weapon balance in Halo 2 as much. Plus, you could tell the maps were catering to huge battles online, whereas we could maybe get 6-8 gamers to one house on a weekend night, what with life and work schedules. I still like the campaign of Halo 2, as far as size and "epicness". At least there is a campaign mode (**cough**Gears**cough**).

Yep we used to have anywhere from 6-16 player LAN parties with Halo then when the second game came out not only did I not really like the weapon balance as much but everyone got anti-social. Why hang out on a saturday night well into sunday morning when everyone can just sign onto Xbox Live at 8:00 on monday. To me I didn't like the switch. Not only did online get boring but you wouldn't get nearly as many as a 8-16 turnout of friends and ehh I found myself just overall not enjoying the game as much.



I don't hate FFVII (I believe we've discussed this before, but here goes again!), but I think its graphics and the fact it was being released during the "Playstation generation" helped to garner so much attention. FFVI is a better game, IMO. Characters who don't whine their asses off like Cloud, and Kefka is by far more diabolical than Sephiroth. :eek: I even liked FFVIII a bit more, but I know it's taboo to like that game. ;) That being said, the emotions conveyed in FFVII were powerful, even if the story went south on Disc 2. But back to my "Playstation generation" comment, I just think that if gaming wasn't as "uncool" in the days of the NES, SNES, Genesis, Master System, etc, more people would've experienced the Chrono Triggers, FFVI's, and Dragon Warriors, and they'd get more than just a passing mention. I guess I'm just an old codger. :D

I don't think anyone is trying to take away anything from Chrono Trigger or the early Final Fantasies I just think you are talking about two different realms of games. What Chrono Trigger did for early RPG's, FFVII did for this new generation of RPGs. Chrono Trigger proved you could cram a pretty awesome story into that tiny cartridge and have people love it. FFVII showed that you could cram a 50 hour long masterpiece of music, story, and visuals into a tiny round disk. Where as FFVII took from Chrono Trigger and expanded on it half the RPG's released today take bits and pieces from FFVII and expand on it. I hate the playstation generation as much as everyone else....the guys who think the only system that exsisted in the 1990's was the PS. But I'm not going to hold it against that generation for just randomly stumbling across something so impressive.

Oh by the way FFVIII was awful. IX was better and X blew it out of the water. XII - ehh, I'd rather play my videogames not watch them.


It's cool, man. I figure you were all "Maddened up", having just come home with the game and all. I was just shocked to see you actually playing a game on your 360, instead of signing onto the dashboard and staying there. :p

That whole time I was on my PS3 playing The Godfather. There was nothing on the 360 to play so I went over and started playing the PS3 while also signing onto the 360 to talk draft strategy on Xbox Live. By the way the Godfather is an awesome game. But anyways yeah I'm probably back playing the 360 religiously until Heavenly Sword drops.

MPCanes
08-22-2007, 12:50 PM
Final Fantasy VII needs to be remade like woah.

PSP would be nice for it, just perfect really.

CJF28
08-22-2007, 01:03 PM
So far, I'd say "no", but I'm not in far enough. The developers had said in articles in EGM & online before that there'd be some backtracking, but not enough to piss you off (Soul Reaver, for example). In the early part of the game, it pretty much holds your hand and shows you where to go. Maybe Cory can answer your question best, as he's farthest of most of us, I'd assume (No spoilers, man!).

no spoilers? BLAH :p

I absolutely love this game. played 8 hours last nite, and 3 more this morning.

there is a SMALL amount of backtracking. but to bad. there is also a map, that shows all points of interest (med stations, gene stations, DNA stations). and if you get REALLY REALLY stuck, holding down RIGHT on the dpad brings up a window that gives out hints.

man, Billy and I were going back and forth last nite on LIVE with this game

Billy: Hey man, did you get to ***** yet?
me: Yea, but now Im stuck at, OMG, ***??? RUN RUN RUN!!!. oops, sorry billy. yea, that thing is hidden in the corpse

oaktown2000
08-22-2007, 01:11 PM
By the way the Godfather is an awesome game. But anyways yeah I'm probably back playing the 360 religiously until Heavenly Sword drops.


No....no it's not.


I think I'm going to sign up for all my PS3 stuff tonight and send you a friend request...and I'm thinking since "chugga" has already been taken for the Playstation Network...I might just go with "chugga_sucks"......look for an invite

XSsoCX
08-22-2007, 01:14 PM
no spoilers? BLAH :p

I absolutely love this game. played 8 hours last nite, and 3 more this morning.

there is a SMALL amount of backtracking. but to bad. there is also a map, that shows all points of interest (med stations, gene stations, DNA stations). and if you get REALLY REALLY stuck, holding down RIGHT on the dpad brings up a window that gives out hints.

man, Billy and I were going back and forth last nite on LIVE with this game

Billy: Hey man, did you get to ***** yet?
me: Yea, but now Im stuck at, OMG, ***??? RUN RUN RUN!!!. oops, sorry billy. yea, that thing is hidden in the corpse

:D

I had alot of fun messaging and chatting back and forth.
This game is outfrigginstanding. If you are on the fench, jump off and go buy it. Have I ever lead any of you astray on a game. :D

oaktown2000
08-22-2007, 01:20 PM
I'll wait and see if you guys still have the same enthusiasm for Bioshock after you've played the whole game and beat it in the next two days.

No multiplayer....15-20 hour game....rental for me.

Lord Magneto
08-22-2007, 01:21 PM
Anyone else check out this video on IGN for Backbreaker... im not a big football video game fan but damn that looks cool

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/814/814249p1.html

CJF28
08-22-2007, 01:26 PM
I'll wait and see if you guys still have the same enthusiasm for Bioshock after you've played the whole game and beat it in the next two days.

No multiplayer....15-20 hour game....rental for me.

I knew you would be the downer of the group. thats ok though

I was going to skip it, since it had no online mode. but Im happy with it. and if I beat it in two days, whos to say Im going to keep it? I already have a co-worker at work, thats gonna buy it from me for $55 when Im done. so, im all good.

not every game is going to have online or 40+ hours of gameplay. This game, to me though, is worth the money I spent on it. even if i wasnt going to get rid of it

Gooker1
08-22-2007, 01:28 PM
Anyone else check out this video on IGN for Backbreaker... im not a big football video game fan but damn that looks cool

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/814/814249p1.html

The physics looks amazing

oaktown2000
08-22-2007, 01:41 PM
I knew you would be the downer of the group. thats ok though


That's me....Mr. Pessimistic :rolleyes:

This same kind of ..."oh my GAWD....this game is hte awesome!!!!!" enthusiasm hit with Crackdown....as well as the Halo 3 Beta...as well as Dead Rising. And I'm sure it will again when Assassin's Creed comes out....and when Two Worlds finally makes it out...and a host of other games.

I played the demo...it is an awesome game...but for me personally...it is not SOO AWESOME that I'd want to spend $60 on a game that I can get the exact same amount of play time out of from an $8 rental.

Either way...enjoy it, then sell it to your buddy in 3 days....that makes a great case for your arguement of it's value :confused:

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 01:45 PM
Even with 15-20 gameplay, if i like a game enough i'd still buy it, like i did with the Ridd ick game, i still love it, and have beaten it several times. It's all about what you like, some people like it more then others, some like it enough to purchase it, others rent it. I'm sure i will be purchasing it eventually, too many pre-orders and bills coming up to justify paying $60 on a game right now. Anyway i'm addicted to Crackdown at the moment anyway.

XSsoCX
08-22-2007, 01:52 PM
Keith,

Don't be such a downer bro.. :) I would rather have a 15-20 game with a great story/gameplay/special abilites than a 40 hr stretched out boring game. As for this being a rental, personally it is worth the $60. The demo for this so sold me. It is probably the best demo I have ever played, seriously. But for you it may be just a rental. You are the King of Rentals. :D

Crackdown and Dead Rising are both great games. I dont see the connection here? Did you not like them?

oaktown2000
08-22-2007, 01:57 PM
yeah...but you paid $60 for Call of Juarez...I'm not listening to anything you say about "value"



:p

As for your question...I found Dead Rising to be brutally boring...and no, I thought Crackdown sucked. So far...the best demo I've DL'd in quite some time I'd have to say...was that Blacksite 51 demo.

You're probably missing my point. I'm not saying the game isn't great. What I am saying is....I can wait......till it's at my blockbuster and rent it for two weeks for $8 and get the exact same enjoyment out of it that you guys are getting for $60......that's all. I won't be missing any spectacular boardie matches. I won't be missing any exclusive content. I won't be missing any awesome co-op with you guys. I will get the exact same game. That's all. And while I say I can wait...several of you sound as if it's the game to end all games...just as everyone sounded with Halo3 demo (which didn't turn out to be the case)...and the same things they said about Crakdown (which didn't turn out to be the case)...and so on and so on. I'm simply saying.....let me see how enthusiastic you are one week after release.....if it really is that great of a game...surely it can sustain this for one tiny week.

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 02:00 PM
LOL :D

XSsoCX
08-22-2007, 02:02 PM
yeah...but you paid $60 for Call of Juarez...I'm not listening to anything you say about "value"



:p

LOL :D

Ya real funny.....:rolleyes:

My mistake, but if there was a demo for COJ I wouldnt have bought it.

favrefan#4
08-22-2007, 02:07 PM
Hey fellas I have been gaming on my 360 online for 5-7 months now and just recently it stopped working anyone have any problems/solutions like this

this is the adapter I am using
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/31Q731AD5PL._AA280_.jpg

and when I test it on xbox it says network adapter---wireless bridge but on the next line it says wireless network---- not connected anyone have a similar issue and if so how did you fix it

also on the 3 green lights on my xbox wireless adapter the far left one that says Power is solid green
the middle one that says wireless is blinking green
and the one on the right that says Xbox is solid green


thanks much


Neal

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 02:09 PM
Reboot your wireless router for starters...

Does the 360 still see your wireless network?

favrefan#4
08-22-2007, 02:13 PM
Reboot your wireless router for starters...

Does the 360 still see your wireless network?

How do I reboot my router and how do I know if it still seeing my wireless network sorry I am a little computer knowledge but not much

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 02:17 PM
How do I reboot my router and how do I know if it still seeing my wireless network sorry I am a little computer knowledge but not much

The easiest way is unplug it, wait 30 seconds then plug it back in. There might also be a reset button on the back (I know Linksys wireless routers have it).

You'll have to go under the system settings to find out if your 360 is seeing the network or not. Do you have any other wireless devices that rely on the router and are they working okay?

Chounch McGavin
08-22-2007, 02:29 PM
How should I replace my scratched Gears cd?

1. Spend $20.00 and send it in to Microsoft and wait about a month to recieve another copy
2. Go to Blockbuster, rent it, swap it, and tell them I couldn't get the game to start ($ = whatever price of rental is)
3. Buy a used copy?


Unreadable ftl

oaktown2000
08-22-2007, 02:34 PM
# 2...but I didn't say that



:D ;)

CJF28
08-22-2007, 02:43 PM
actually, you can go to gamecrazy, and for like $4 they will buff your disc

I had Marvel Alliance, Oblivion CE, andCrackdown I think it was. none would play, 12 bucks later, they were all good

favrefan#4
08-22-2007, 02:49 PM
The easiest way is unplug it, wait 30 seconds then plug it back in. There might also be a reset button on the back (I know Linksys wireless routers have it).

You'll have to go under the system settings to find out if your 360 is seeing the network or not. Do you have any other wireless devices that rely on the router and are they working okay?



No just have the router for the xbox 360 it is a linksys so I will see if it has a reset button on the back of it also where would I find the system settings at under control panel maybe?? Thanks for all of your help and input primebane I appreciate it greatly

Neal

Chounch McGavin
08-22-2007, 02:50 PM
# 2...but I didn't say that



:D ;)

Do you have any experience with #2? Theoretically speaking.. :D

actually, you can go to gamecrazy, and for like $4 they will buff your disc

I had Marvel Alliance, Oblivion CE, andCrackdown I think it was. none would play, 12 bucks later, they were all good
Do they guarantee that the disc will work?

SpawnSC
08-22-2007, 02:51 PM
i got my xbox 360 hooked to my ibook using the wireless from my ibook :D cha-ching! saved a $100 dollars!

if anyone wants to know how to do this setup PM me and ill help.

CJF28
08-22-2007, 02:59 PM
Do you have any experience with #2? Theoretically speaking.. :D


Do they guarantee that the disc will work?

no, but if it works, great. if not, then #2 is a great fallback. I didnt tell you that though. Keith did
:D

Chugga
08-22-2007, 02:59 PM
No....no it's not.


I think I'm going to sign up for all my PS3 stuff tonight and send you a friend request...and I'm thinking since "chugga" has already been taken for the Playstation Network...I might just go with "chugga_sucks"......look for an invite

First of all the game is definately awesome. It had alot of things going for it for the type of wide open game it is. The fighting system was far better then probably any other free roaming game I had played. It actually had cover and destructible cover. Going in guns blazing was the quickest way to an early death, plotting and planning your movement with you and your crew was great. Taking over the city, extorting people, roughing people up, throwing people through store front windows.

Then again why am I listening to you about The Godfather not being a good game....you are the same person who thought Grand Theft Auto, Saint's Row etc were weak games too. You are probably the only person I know in this entire world that doesn't like free roaming games.

By the way I would love for you to take chugga_sucks as a screen name....it will only make things more hilarious/ironic when chugga beats chugga_sucks.

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 03:01 PM
No just have the router for the xbox 360 it is a linksys so I will see if it has a reset button on the back of it also where would I find the system settings at under control panel maybe?? Thanks for all of your help and input primebane I appreciate it greatly

Neal

You want System Settings on the 360 dashboard (the purple one).

I hope this page helps a bit.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/console/dashboard.htm

You should find everything you need under Network Settings.

pyrrhonist
08-22-2007, 04:04 PM
I can see where Keith is coming from, though, because I personally feel it kind of applies to a majority of this generation's games. There aren't hardly any games that have come out in the past 6 months that are worth dropping $60 on. There are some good/great games, but many aren't worth owning. Is BioShock one of them? Possibly. I will say I was hyped, then not hyped, then afraid due to not being done with some games I've owned for a bit and still haven't finished. I could've grabbed the $50 price at Circuit City yesterday, but I decided to see if I could trade in an online movie to get BioShock for $4.99 at Lackluster...score! I'll be going the rental route not because I think the game sucks (it doesn't), not because it doesn't have multiplayer (Playing with/against online people doesn't always make a game great, folks), but I just can't talk myself into paying for it, because I don't see myself going it through it more than 1 or 2 times. In fact, the only games I plan on buying the rest of this year (assuming they all make it out, of course **cough**Valve**cough**):

Halo 3
Mass Effect
Rock Band (the WHOLE package)
Assassin's Creed
The Orange Box

There are plenty of other good games coming, but I just don't see them all as purchases.

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 04:11 PM
I(Playing with/against online people doesn't always make a game great, folks)

that's just crazy talk :p

CJF28
08-22-2007, 04:14 PM
so, what is the total price of rock band?

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 04:23 PM
$200 is what I've heard...

oaktown2000
08-22-2007, 04:29 PM
$200 is what I've heard...


Yeah......that's definitely gonna be a rental for me



:p

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 04:34 PM
That brings up an interesting question though.

I haven't rented a game in years, but for something like Guitar Hero or Rockband do they include the controller? Or perhaps rent them sperately?

Jason62
08-22-2007, 04:41 PM
so, what is the total price of rock band?

Around 200 for the package from EB it seems which includes game, mic, guitar, and drums.

Jason62
08-22-2007, 04:45 PM
Yeah......that's definitely gonna be a rental for me



:p

but thats for everything. They will sell each pererphial seperate so you dont have to purchase the mic or guitar lets say if you just want the drums or what not. 200 is just for everything in one bundle. Its a definete pick up for me since me, my gf and my friend will all be in one band playing so we need all the parts.

Chugga
08-22-2007, 05:13 PM
You are probably looking at $250...the bundle only includes one guitar and you are going to want a bass guitar too so thats probably another $50. For me personally I refuse to buy Rock Band the game until Journey is announced.

Lord Magneto
08-22-2007, 05:22 PM
SO I just got back from blockbuster...i get 1 free game rental a month with my blockbuster online... anyways i see Bioshock on the shelf and im like score... i go up to the counter and the guy is like ohhh sorry this is our only copy and we cant rent it yet. You should be able to rent it next week... ***???

I bet he didnt know they had it and wanted it for himself... i rented call of duty 2 again meh

oaktown2000
08-22-2007, 05:30 PM
You are probably looking at $250...the bundle only includes one guitar and you are going to want a bass guitar too so thats probably another $50. For me personally I refuse to buy Rock Band the game until Kelly Clarkson is announced.


Fixed.

El Dubious Mung
08-22-2007, 05:31 PM
SO I just got back from blockbuster...i get 1 free game rental a month with my blockbuster online... anyways i see Bioshock on the shelf and im like score... i go up to the counter and the guy is like ohhh sorry this is our only copy and we cant rent it yet. You should be able to rent it next week... ***???

I bet he didnt know they had it and wanted it for himself... i rented call of duty 2 again meh

If it's on the shelf, you can rent it. Don't ***** out next time! Ask to speak to the manager!

I bet if you go back now, and speak with the manager, they'll give you a free rental for your troubles or something. The customer is always right, as long as he complains.

XSsoCX
08-22-2007, 06:11 PM
As for your question...I found Dead Rising to be brutally boring...and no, I thought Crackdown sucked. So far...the best demo I've DL'd in quite some time I'd have to say...was that Blacksite 51 demo.

Your crazy, Dead Rising and Crackdown were very fun games.
And Blacksite does seem pretty sweet. Hope some of us get it and can play was Deathmatches or CoOp if there is any.


You're probably missing my point. I'm not saying the game isn't great. What I am saying is....I can wait......till it's at my blockbuster and rent it for two weeks for $8 and get the exact same enjoyment out of it that you guys are getting for $60......that's all. I won't be missing any spectacular boardie matches. I won't be missing any exclusive content. I won't be missing any awesome co-op with you guys. I will get the exact same game. That's all. And while I say I can wait...several of you sound as if it's the game to end all games...just as everyone sounded with Halo3 demo (which didn't turn out to be the case)...and the same things they said about Crakdown (which didn't turn out to be the case)...and so on and so on. I'm simply saying.....let me see how enthusiastic you are one week after release.....if it really is that great of a game...surely it can sustain this for one tiny week.

Just because I beat a game in a week or so doesnt devalue the fact of whether or not it is a great game. I will still hype this game to anyone who asks about it. And when/If you play BioShock I can not see you being let down. And if you are than I will not believe it. This is a very entertaining game. I played it from 10 to 7am last night till this morning(girlfriend wasnt to happy:o) Honestly just seems like you are being negative just to be negative. You could just say,"really, its that good?" "cool, cant wait to rent it." Or something like that. It's not like there are any good games out now to spend money on(besides Madden).
But whatever.......Enjoy it when you do rent it, and I'll enjoy it now that Ive bought it. :D

avsfan21
08-22-2007, 06:12 PM
That brings up an interesting question though.

I haven't rented a game in years, but for something like Guitar Hero or Rockband do they include the controller? Or perhaps rent them sperately?

Not that I have been to many rental places lately, but the once I have been to dont even carry Guitar Hero. I highly doubt they would come with the controller though if they did.

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 07:58 PM
How should I replace my scratched Gears cd?

1. Spend $20.00 and send it in to Microsoft and wait about a month to recieve another copy
2. Go to Blockbuster, rent it, swap it, and tell them I couldn't get the game to start ($ = whatever price of rental is)
3. Buy a used copy?
Unreadable ftl

Doesn't blockbuster put those barcode stickers on their Games/Dvds? I know hollywood video doesnt, take it there and swap it, F those places anyway. But just hope you don't get a copy that's already scratched :D

That brings up an interesting question though.

I haven't rented a game in years, but for something like Guitar Hero or Rockband do they include the controller? Or perhaps rent them sperately?

They don't rent out the controllers, just the game, but for Rock band who knows, i doubt they'll let people rent stuff like that though.

If you have Guitar hero 2 already, you can use that controller, If not, you can use a regular controller, it just won't have the same feel to it, and won't be as much fun, probably a lot harder too.

You are probably looking at $250...the bundle only includes one guitar and you are going to want a bass guitar too so thats probably another $50. For me personally I refuse to buy Rock Band the game until Journey is announced.

I was told the guitar will double as a bass, they don't have a specific one made for it, So if you got Guitar Hero 2 already, you're set, you can just get the game with the guitar and the Xplorer Guitar will work with it, so i'm told. All you need is (assuming you want to get the whole package) is the guitar, mic, and drums, and you're set. Unless you want to buy another guitar, go for it :)

I dont know if i'll buy this right away, maybe i'll ask for it for Xmas or something, i already have too many to buy, not to mention i'm getting guitar hero 3 when it comes out.

Chugga
08-22-2007, 08:02 PM
The guitar will double as a bass guitar.....but for me I want to get all 4 pieces so I can get the band together and rock out. I figure theres 4-5 who will definately want to play so I gott have a 2nd guitar. And I already traded in my guitar hero 2 guitar because I got tired of the game.

shop_gmc
08-22-2007, 09:51 PM
comon people whats going on with your bioshock? :D how far u guys at? im not that far. im to the med area where the doc first throws the can bomb.

i started the game on the hard so there not too many bots to hack so im kinda stuck fighting my own battles:D start on hard and save the sisters and then start on easy to harvest them. :D best game beside rb6 online. i luv rb6:D:D:D

shop_gmc
08-22-2007, 09:52 PM
anyone else played the skate demo? worst skate game i played!! only because in the demo u can only jump by moving the right stick. gotta move it down then move up, very confusing:D:D:D

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-22-2007, 10:01 PM
The skate demo wasn't bad, it'll take some getting used to, it's def a Simulator of sorts, i'd rent it to try it out, but nothing more, at least it's not another Tony hawk wanna be game, it's something entirely fresh, at least the controls and setup anyway.

avsfan21
08-22-2007, 10:06 PM
I wont get a copy of bioshock until tomorrow. At least I hope. I cant wait to play it.

PrimeBane
08-22-2007, 10:07 PM
So what's the deal with researching and inventing in Bioshock? Do you just experiment to see what works with what?

CJF28
08-22-2007, 10:53 PM
when you research ( or take a baddies picture), when you get 100% research, your weapons will get a damage upgrade against the baddie

invtenting is no biggie. you'll find oddball stuff to pick up around the leavels. i.e. glue, rope, hose, kerosene, screws. take them to a U-invent machine, and they will make bullets, weapons, plasmids. instead of just having to buy them

WhO Iz THiZ Iz
08-22-2007, 11:08 PM
whats this crap i hear about bio shock fubarin some 360's????

Gooker1
08-23-2007, 08:11 AM
anyone else played the skate demo? worst skate game i played!! only because in the demo u can only jump by moving the right stick. gotta move it down then move up, very confusing:D:D:D

The skate demo wasn't bad, it'll take some getting used to, it's def a Simulator of sorts, i'd rent it to try it out, but nothing more, at least it's not another Tony hawk wanna be game, it's something entirely fresh, at least the controls and setup anyway.


I'm actually enjoying this demo. It's not easy like THPS is/was. It's totally new and it's really challenging to get the control scheme down. It definitely takes some getting used to doing flip tricks, manuals and the like. But it's pretty fun. It's more realistic than THPS.

The only thing bothering me right now is the view. I wish I was zoomed out a tad bit.

Lord Magneto
08-23-2007, 08:31 AM
i have to agree i really liked the Skate Demo... the controls reminded me somewhat of fightnights controls. I liked it a lot better then the tony hawk games... i def like that it was a bit more realistic... not that i will buy the game... but im sure my brother - who still skate boards - would buy the game

Smbdyfnkillme
08-23-2007, 09:14 AM
I still haven't opened my limited edition copy of Bioshock and the price that it's getting on ebay is seriously making me consider selling it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BioShock-Limited-Edition-Xbox-360_W0QQitemZ330158543975QQihZ014QQcategoryZ62053QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Skate was okay, but the controls are bad. The camera is a big part of what makes the controls bad. You can't judge anything with that low camera so you will mess up on some of the easiest tricks. If you can switch the camera in the final version, I may consider buying it. I also feel that they want you to be far too precise with the controls for the game to be any fun. I think I've done more pop shuv-its than any other trick and that's with trying all kinds of different combinations. As stale as Tony Hawk is, I think it is still more fun. They weren't aiming for realism, just fun.

Lord Magneto
08-23-2007, 09:25 AM
jesus i cant believe these big daddy figures are fetching such high prices... i'd almost say hold onto it...

BeefEaster
08-23-2007, 09:38 AM
my repaired 360 should be delivered today

woo hoo

it's about damn time

pyrrhonist
08-23-2007, 11:00 AM
The guitar will double as a bass guitar.....but for me I want to get all 4 pieces so I can get the band together and rock out. I figure theres 4-5 who will definately want to play so I gott have a 2nd guitar. And I already traded in my guitar hero 2 guitar because I got tired of the game.

Was that your 360 version, or your PS2 versions, Chugga? I'm thinking of trading in my PS2 editions of GH & GH2, but I assume EB/Lamestop will take me to the cleaners on trade-in price, even with the guitars.

pyrrhonist
08-23-2007, 11:02 AM
that's just crazy talk :p

You're actually semi-right, Scott, because apparently a game with a 20-25 hour campaign is only a rental, but a game that has a 5-hour campaign, but has multiplayer online is a purchase! :eek:

I haven't rented a game in years, but for something like Guitar Hero or Rockband do they include the controller? Or perhaps rent them sperately?

I don't know if it is based on each store's own policies, but my local Lackluster will rent you the guitar and a GH game, but their signs on the shelves say "for an extra price". I've never rented either GH edition from there, though, since I own them both on PS2.

pyrrhonist
08-23-2007, 11:04 AM
I'm going post crazy!! :p :D

Apparently the "Falcon", complete with its newer, cooler chipset, is coming soon, per Team Xbox:


Falcon is coming your way this fall. The first Xbox 360s with it are probably on ships coming from China. Falcon is coming later than expected. But I have confirmed that it is coming. In July, Microsoft’s hardware team was in the midst of qualifying Falcon and the IBM 65-nm microprocessor so that it could get all the bugs out. Now those chips are in the first batches of the new consoles that are coming in ships across the Pacific from China, where Microsoft’s contract manufacturers assemble the boxes. If they get here in time, then many of those machines could be ready for fall sales.

In general, Microsoft’s plan was to redesign the motherboard every year and introduce a new generation of chip circuitry every two years. By that standard, we are really due for the arrival of the 65-nanometer chips.

pyrrhonist
08-23-2007, 11:09 AM
Yes, another post!! ;) :p

As if the Halo series didn't already have the most customizable and varied multiplayer of any console shooter, here comes more details on the "Forge" option. I'll admit, the "Forge" option didn't sound all that much different than the customizable match options of Halo & Halo 2 before, but after reading this article, it seems even better than ever. Now, if only other games would give you as much control of your gametypes, rules, etc..... :(


http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/815/815041p1.html

PrimeBane
08-23-2007, 11:17 AM
You're actually semi-right, Scott, because apparently a game with a 20-25 hour campaign is only a rental, but a game that has a 5-hour campaign, but has multiplayer online is a purchase! :eek:


If you get 50 to 100 hours or more out of the multiplyer, I'd say it is. :D

oaktown2000
08-23-2007, 11:31 AM
Watch it....or he'll tag you with one of those catchy phrases he's so good at....maybe something like Primelame

And to be honest.....I don't buy a game based on it's length....it's all about the achievements. If it has an easy 1000 points...I'm buying it. Then I'll mail it to all my friends. If it has an achievement where I can coerce a buddy to go online and lose 10 games in a row to me to get 50 points.....I'm buying it. It's all about my gamerscore....not the length of play I'm gonna get.

PrimeBane
08-23-2007, 11:32 AM
ah, it's all just friendly banter back and forth :)

Lord Magneto
08-23-2007, 11:35 AM
Watch it....or he'll tag you with one of those catchy phrases he's so good at....maybe something like Primelame

And to be honest.....I don't buy a game based on it's length....it's all about the achievements. If it has an easy 1000 points...I'm buying it. Then I'll mail it to all my friends. If it has an achievement where I can coerce a buddy to go online and lose 10 games in a row to me to get 50 points.....I'm buying it. It's all about my gamerscore....not the length of play I'm gonna get.


haha i just scored a perfect 1000 points on a game for the first time the other night... good ol fightnight...

JaylisJayP
08-23-2007, 11:48 AM
Bioshock is insane....unbelievable game, best one yet on the 360.

oaktown2000
08-23-2007, 12:02 PM
Seems some congratulations are in order...our little buddy IcyRedWarrior has decided that he no longer enjoys having his own budget for movies and games.....he no longer wants to play video games whenever the hell he wants...and he definitely dosn't care about having sex anymore.........congrats on the engagement and welcome to hell :)

PrimeBane
08-23-2007, 12:10 PM
LOL... thanks Keith :)

The plus side of living together for 4 years already is that I shouldn't have to give up too much of that.... well, I might not be able to get as many game and movies now since there will be a wedding to pay for at some point.

Gooker1
08-23-2007, 12:37 PM
LOL... thanks Keith :)

The plus side of living together for 4 years already is that I shouldn't have to give up too much of that.... well, I might not be able to get as many game and movies now since there will be a wedding to pay for at some point.


LOL - Congrats!

Tat2
08-23-2007, 02:53 PM
Congrats, Scott!!! err... yeah, Congrats!!

Lord Magneto
08-23-2007, 02:55 PM
Congrats man...

Tat2
08-23-2007, 02:56 PM
anyone have any issues with the Linksys WRT54G router?

I'm going to try to buy a new router to see if that helps with my issues of not connecting with certain people. My NAT is set to Open, but there are still certain people on my friends list that I cannot hear or sometimes flat cannot connect to a room that they are in.

PrimeBane
08-23-2007, 02:58 PM
Thanks guys. :)

I believe I have the Linksys WRT54G... it gave me trouble to start, but I haven't had a problem with it in ages now.

pyrrhonist
08-23-2007, 03:45 PM
ah, it's all just friendly banter back and forth :)

As long as we're not talking about Kevin Lowe's signing tactics, it is, man! ;) :D

BTW, congrats on the engagement, man---welcome to the club! :cool:



Watch it....or he'll tag you with one of those catchy phrases he's so good at....maybe something like Primelame

Thanks for the props, man! It's always nicer to get the credit from others, instead of tagging oneself as funny. :D


And to be honest.....I don't buy a game based on it's length....it's all about the achievements. If it has an easy 1000 points...I'm buying it. Then I'll mail it to all my friends. If it has an achievement where I can coerce a buddy to go online and lose 10 games in a row to me to get 50 points.....I'm buying it. It's all about my gamerscore....not the length of play I'm gonna get.

Buy!? Hell, man, I am more of a "buy-to-rent". Why pay $50 to buy, or waste $9 to rent, when one can charge the cost of a used game at the local EB, get my play time in for 7 days, and then return it for a full refund? ;)

As for the "subtle" Gamerscore jab---I guess I'm a bit guilty of that, no doubt about it. But then again, my 30,000 is crap compared to some people I've played against. Hell, one of our own Spawn.com members has 100,000 plus. Then again, you'll find no children's games on my played games. I can admit I've played some really crappy games, but then again, I think it was ingenious on Microsoft's part to put achievements as part of the platform. There are numerous games that have been played by 360 gamers for points that more than likely would never have been played otherwise.

avsfan21
08-23-2007, 04:07 PM
Congrats Scott.

Well Bioshock didnt come today so I guess I have to wait another day. :(

meatgoat
08-23-2007, 04:19 PM
anyone have any issues with the Linksys WRT54G router?

I'm going to try to buy a new router to see if that helps with my issues of not connecting with certain people. My NAT is set to Open, but there are still certain people on my friends list that I cannot hear or sometimes flat cannot connect to a room that they are in.

Mine constantly needs to be reset. I'm thinking of going with Apples Airport Extreme. Anyone have any experience with it?

Chugga
08-23-2007, 04:21 PM
I've got the same linksys router myself because I was told it was one of the best for the price...but on my PS3 I'm lucky to even hit a 70% connection on a good day.

I've been wanting to get the Airport Extreme too...but I don't actually have an Apple computer though...I was thinking about getting one when it's time to upgrade next. I'm kinda done with the whole gaming pc thing...they are expensive and I haven't played a game on my pc in over a year. But I like what Apple does I can only imagine their router is pretty solid.

meatgoat
08-23-2007, 04:28 PM
I have the same issues with the PS3. Probably worse.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what kinda computer you use it with. Between my wife, my son and myself we have 3 Mac laptops and my desktop is a pc. The guy at the Apple store said the Airport would work fine with my set up. I'm not sure how well it works with the 360 and the PS3 though.

avsfan21
08-23-2007, 04:32 PM
Getting a new router might not help the signal strength. It kind of all depends on how far and what is between you and the router itself.

Chugga
08-23-2007, 04:44 PM
I have the same issues with the PS3. Probably worse.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what kinda computer you use it with. Between my wife, my son and myself we have 3 Mac laptops and my desktop is a pc. The guy at the Apple store said the Airport would work fine with my set up. I'm not sure how well it works with the 360 and the PS3 though.

So wait your PS3 has connection issues too then? The weird thing is, is I only have anywhere between 50-70% signal strength but I'm downloading things twice as fast on the PS3 then I am on a direct ethernet connection to my 360. Does the actual signal strength % number even mean anything because honestly I had 1 router that had a 25% signal strength on my PS3 and it seemingly moved just as fast as this one.

The only killer thing are the system updates, I might as well cook dinner, watch a movie, and read a book before it finishes.

meatgoat
08-23-2007, 04:49 PM
Well to be completely honest its my son who *****es about the ps3 taking forever to dl demos and the like. I couldn't tell you how long it's been since I even turned on my ps3. Still he says its way slower than the 360. Both are connected wirelessly and they are only a shelf apart so the distance to the router is the same.

Chugga
08-23-2007, 05:18 PM
I wanted to get the wireless adapter but I was thinking if I was only getting 70% I didn't think that would be good enough for the 360 to play stuff like Gears, Halo, etc. So if it's just a internal PS3 thing then I'll go out and get the wireless adapter but I don't know.

avsfan21
08-23-2007, 05:23 PM
70% of your wireless connection should be fine for games. I mean you are probably running the 54 mbps router. Your average internet connection is 1-3 mbps. So 70% should be more than enough to handle that.

oaktown2000
08-23-2007, 05:23 PM
I couldn't tell you how long it's been since I even turned on my ps3.


Well turn it on *****....and send me a friend request :)

SpawnSC
08-23-2007, 05:28 PM
I wanted to get the wireless adapter but I was thinking if I was only getting 70% I didn't think that would be good enough for the 360 to play stuff like Gears, Halo, etc. So if it's just a internal PS3 thing then I'll go out and get the wireless adapter but I don't know.

you can use your laptops wireless connection to your 360 so you know :) I do that with my iBook. I plug my 360 to my ibook with internet connection sharing on the wireless adapter. If you want the steps on setting it up with windows its very easy and lots of guides on google for it. Just PM me if you need more info on it.

SpawnSC
08-23-2007, 05:33 PM
With your laptop connected wirelessly to your network access point, connect the wired network connection on your laptop to the wired connection port on the back of your Xbox 360 with any Ethernet cable.

http://images.jakeludington.com/xboxnetwork/xbox_networksharing_diagram.png

Open the Network Connections list from Start > Connect To > Show All Connections

Right-click your Wireless Network Connection and choose Properties from the list.

On the Advanced tab, check the box to Allow other network users to connect through this computer's internet connection. In the Home Networking Connection dropdown list choose Local Area Connection. Uncheck the box to Allow other network users to control or disable the shared Internet connection.

http://images.jakeludington.com/xboxnetwork/xbox_connectionsharing.png

meatgoat
08-23-2007, 05:47 PM
Well turn it on *****....and send me a friend request :)

Ok. THough I have no clue how to do it. :confused:

WitchKingOfAngmar
08-23-2007, 10:09 PM
So wait your PS3 has connection issues too then? The weird thing is, is I only have anywhere between 50-70% signal strength but I'm downloading things twice as fast on the PS3 then I am on a direct ethernet connection to my 360. Does the actual signal strength % number even mean anything because honestly I had 1 router that had a 25% signal strength on my PS3 and it seemingly moved just as fast as this one.

The only killer thing are the system updates, I might as well cook dinner, watch a movie, and read a book before it finishes.

That's odd, I'm almost the opposite. My 360 always connects to my wireless network without a hitch, and I've never been dropped by it. My PS3....seems every time I want it to even connect, I have to reboot my router, and even then everything takes forever to DL.

someguy6000
08-23-2007, 11:08 PM
LOL... thanks Keith :)

The plus side of living together for 4 years already is that I shouldn't have to give up too much of that.... well, I might not be able to get as many game and movies now since there will be a wedding to pay for at some point.
congrats on the engagement

CJF28
08-24-2007, 01:29 AM
whew. just finished Bioshock. Loved the game. as everyone else who's played it has.

Billy, I think we did get seperate endings, due to how we played the game differently.

I ended up with a little over 500 acheivement points. unlocking 28 of 50 acheivments.

Finished this in probably 30 hours, tops. And just in time for two worlds now

cory

Chugga
08-24-2007, 02:14 AM
Two Worlds in like 8 hours....woohoo

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 03:05 AM
whew. just finished Bioshock. Loved the game. as everyone else who's played it has.

Billy, I think we did get seperate endings, due to how we played the game differently.

I ended up with a little over 500 acheivement points. unlocking 28 of 50 acheivments.

Finished this in probably 30 hours, tops. And just in time for two worlds now

cory

Ya I was thinking there would be different endings. I am going to play through again to see the other one(and yes, being the achievement wh0re I am. To get more gamerpoints. Almost at 10k). There might even be a third depending if you heal or harvest. I got 100gamerpoints for going to route I did with them. But all in all I was happy with the game. Still can not believe Tues night I played from 1030pm to 7am. Crazy, I havent done that with a game in a long while. Fun stuff. Recommend this game to everyone.

Tat2
08-24-2007, 05:47 AM
yeah, I think I'll rent it over Labor Day weekend... seeing that you guys beat it already

Gooker1
08-24-2007, 08:10 AM
Ya I was thinking there would be different endings. I am going to play through again to see the other one(and yes, being the achievement wh0re I am. To get more gamerpoints. Almost at 10k). There might even be a third depending if you heal or harvest. I got 100gamerpoints for going to route I did with them. But all in all I was happy with the game. Still can not believe Tues night I played from 1030pm to 7am. Crazy, I havent done that with a game in a long while. Fun stuff. Recommend this game to everyone.

WOW!! That's insane - 10:30 to 7am, can't remember the last time I did that. Probably FFVII or something like that

Lord Magneto
08-24-2007, 10:48 AM
man anyone else check out this 10 min video on call of duty 4 from ign... the beta is going to be nutz... i gotta get in on that.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/815/815327p1.html

That last stand feature is so friggin cool.

Gooker1
08-24-2007, 10:52 AM
Did you guys know that you can create your own Skate team in skate.? Sounds pretty sweet. I really think that for those who didn't like skate. the first go around to give it another whirl. It really is a blast and lots of fun to pull off the tricks b/c it's more realistic and challenging.

PrimeBane
08-24-2007, 10:56 AM
Has anyone seen a copy of Two Worlds yet or can confirm their local store got it?

bjread
08-24-2007, 10:58 AM
WOW...I played Bioshock last night...the free way, borrowed my friends (heck he didn't even play or open it yet, just brought it to me)...It is kind of intense, silent hill/resident evil kind of intense. I only played for about 1-1.5 hours. I'll probably stay up all night playing tonight.

pyrrhonist
08-24-2007, 11:01 AM
Finished this in probably 30 hours, tops

That's good to hear, man. Hell, I'm still in the 1st hour. :p I need to keep focused on a single game, just for once.



Has anyone seen a copy of Two Worlds yet or can confirm their local store got it?

There are quite a few people on GameFAQS stating they've got it already. In normal GameFAQS fashion, they're either trashing it, or uber-praising it. There doesn't seem to be any level-headed/honest reviews of the game there. The universal comment so far seems to be terrible framerate/lag issues.

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:02 AM
Has anyone seen a copy of Two Worlds yet or can confirm their local store got it?


Just got off the phone with mine...they currently have it "in-hand", but not a lot of copies (but that's what they always say)

pyrrhonist
08-24-2007, 11:04 AM
Just got off the phone with mine...they currently have it "in-hand", but not a lot of copies (but that's what they always say)

They didn't ask you the almighty "Did you reserve it"? question first? :D

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-24-2007, 11:08 AM
man anyone else check out this 10 min video on call of duty 4 from ign... the beta is going to be nutz... i gotta get in on that.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/815/815327p1.html

That last stand feature is so friggin cool.

I'm glad i pre-ordered that game, i can't wait for it, especially after see that video.

It says the beta is open on monday, so keep an eye out.

Did you guys know that you can create your own Skate team in skate.? Sounds pretty sweet. I really think that for those who didn't like skate. the first go around to give it another whirl. It really is a blast and lots of fun to pull off the tricks b/c it's more realistic and challenging.

I thought skate was interesting, i'm def going to rent it and see what else we can do, Skate Team? sounds cool. It has more of Simulator feel to it because you actually have to try the actual moves instead of just pushing random buttons. That's what i liked most about it.

PrimeBane
08-24-2007, 11:18 AM
Thanks guys... is the framerate and lag problems just for the online coop?

bjread
08-24-2007, 11:21 AM
Bioshock help:

I played the demo and got the fire plasmid in the bathroom with the weird ghost, however, on the reg game i didn't get it...what did i do wrong...I need it to move on. Thanks.

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-24-2007, 11:28 AM
Thanks guys... is the framerate and lag problems just for the online coop?

I assume you are talking about that COD4 video, i think it's just the bitrate for the actual video, i'm sure online play will lag a bit, but not that much.

PrimeBane
08-24-2007, 11:29 AM
No, I was talking about Two Worlds :)

CJF28
08-24-2007, 11:29 AM
the fire plasma is somewhwere in the infermary. where the bodies are and crap. start down in the furnace room, and work your way up.

PS- my gamestop has Two Worlds in

PPS- Picked up a Limited Edition of Bioshock today. no damage to the figure

woohoo

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-24-2007, 11:31 AM
No, I was talking about Two Worlds :)

i knew that, was just checkin ;):D

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:33 AM
Picked up a Limited Edition of Bioshock today. no damage to the figure


FLIP that isht

CJF28
08-24-2007, 11:35 AM
you know it

PrimeBane
08-24-2007, 11:35 AM
Is the LTD ed selling well on teh Bay?

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:36 AM
you know it

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:37 AM
I like that.....I think every other post, someone should just post with "you know it"

PrimeBane
08-24-2007, 11:37 AM
hmmm... perhaps I'll take a stroll at lunch.

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:39 AM
I think I've found my replacement for "you got to be ****** kidding"

Everytime I get frustrated...from either the game itself...or some lameazz online BS....I'll be in the lobby saying '"you ******** know it"

:D

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:39 AM
hmmm... perhaps I'll take a stroll at lunch.

you know it









see...it literally works for EVERYTHING

CJF28
08-24-2007, 11:41 AM
the LE edition unopenned, is fetching over $100 on the bay

need a sellers account though. dammit. shoulda thought about this more

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:42 AM
I think I've found my replacement for "you got to be ****** kidding"

Everytime I get frustrated...from either the game itself...or some lameazz online BS....I'll be in the lobby saying '"you ******** know it"

:D


Eventually....just like with my old phrase...I'll start to use it more and more around the house.

wifey - honey...are you ever gonna stop playing and take out the garbage
me - you ******* know it
wifey - honey....does Tacos sound good for dinner
me - you ******* know it

:D

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:43 AM
the LE edition unopenned, is fetching over $100 on the bay

need a sellers account though. dammit. shoulda thought about this more

sell it here...on spawn....no ebay listing fees...no ebay final cost fees....someone's gotta be looking for one

PrimeBane
08-24-2007, 11:44 AM
Or craigslist

Haven't you sold on ebay before Cory?

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:45 AM
I'll rent your old copy from ya :p

CJF28
08-24-2007, 11:47 AM
old copy is gone. I used $60 credit for it. then sold it for $55 cash. used my last $45 credit on the LE, and used some of the money from the first copy.

dont get me wrong, I would love to play it again. but I want two worlds and Stuntman more. :(

CJF28
08-24-2007, 11:48 AM
ill ebay it for $125 BIN, with free priority shipping.

*cross fingers*

avsfan21
08-24-2007, 11:49 AM
As soon as I get back from a thing I have to do, its Bioshock time. I cant wait to try it.

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:49 AM
you ******* know it!!!!

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 11:51 AM
Seriously though.... I stopped by Blockbuster last night to snag some Blu-Ray rentals..and I noticed they had 6 copies of Bioshock....all rented out though. It shouldn't be too long before one is available again.

CJF28
08-24-2007, 11:52 AM
Keith, what games DO you own?

PrimeBane
08-24-2007, 11:53 AM
I'm going to play this great fence building game this weekend... digging holes, cementing posts, putting together a gate. It's all the rage.

You know you're all jelous because you'll all just be playing Bioshock or Two Worlds...

F me :(

avsfan21
08-24-2007, 11:53 AM
Last I heard it was just the soccer game, but that might be gone as well.

someguy6000
08-24-2007, 11:54 AM
keith i hope you can keep up the "you know it" catch phrase. it's catchy

avsfan21
08-24-2007, 11:54 AM
I'm going to play this great fence building game this weekend... digging holes, cementing posts, putting together a gate. It's all the rage.

You know you're all jelous because you'll all just be playing Bioshock or Two Worlds...

F me :(

Is that anything like zoo tycoon?

someguy6000
08-24-2007, 11:55 AM
I'm going to play this great fence building game this weekend... digging holes, cementing posts, putting together a gate. It's all the rage.

You know you're all jelous because you'll all just be playing Bioshock or Two Worlds...

F me :(
dude that game sounds great i'm gonna be playing that game next summer i think

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 12:25 PM
It's 'cause your losing....

avsfan21
08-24-2007, 12:27 PM
I love in the Bioshock menu that it plays like a different note of the piano when you move through the difficulty options.

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 12:31 PM
Keith, what games DO you own?


Currently......MADDEN08 and UEFA Champions League

I'm probably getting rid of Champion's League though......since I'll be picking up FIFA08 when it comes out.

If Two Worlds doesn't have any major issues...I'll be getting that....oh..and maybe Heavenly Sword for my PS3

avsfan21
08-24-2007, 12:33 PM
I have to say it would be cool as hell to live in Rapture if it wasnt full of crazy people. I mean to have all the fish swimming by your window or a whale. It would be sweet.

someguy6000
08-24-2007, 12:33 PM
It's 'cause your losing....
cheater

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 12:33 PM
keith i hope you can keep up the "you know it" catch phrase. it's catchy


pffft.....you know it :D

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 12:35 PM
I have to say it would be cool as hell to live in Rapture if it wasnt full of crazy people. I mean to have all the fish swimming by your window or a whale. It would be sweet.


I dunno...the pressure would drive me crazy



lol...did anyone see what I just did there.......underwater......."pressure"......ok...nevermind

Chugga
08-24-2007, 12:38 PM
Currently......MADDEN08 and UEFA Champions League

I'm probably getting rid of Champion's League though......since I'll be picking up FIFA08 when it comes out.

If Two Worlds doesn't have any major issues...I'll be getting that....oh..and maybe Heavenly Sword for my PS3

You've almost got me beat, I went from having I think a couple over 55 Xbox360 games and now I'm the proud owner of Gears of War and Madden 08 (madden will likely be traded in next week too). I gotta run out to the store and pick up Two Worlds though....I'm pretty psyched for it but somewhat afraid of the whole fact that there hasn't been any reviews yet.

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 12:41 PM
I do have you beat...because you have like 5-7 PS3 games.....*****

pyrrhonist
08-24-2007, 01:22 PM
Thanks guys... is the framerate and lag problems just for the online coop?

Going by the comments on both GameFAQs and the Xbox.com forums, yes, Scott, it is. I surely hope it's not the issue it sounds like, because the ability to co-op online is pretty much the selling point for this game. Once again, I feel that all games should run from a central server, instead of having 1 person be "host", and the others feeding off that connection. :(

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 01:34 PM
Are you ********* kidding me

Great....so now all the complaints of one of my favorite games are gonna haunt this game as well.


- dude......that was my gold
- no it wasn't...I got there first
- yeah...but you got a "host horse"....and I'm lagging like a mofo

PrimeBane
08-24-2007, 02:18 PM
I'm reading that Two Worlds is pretty much one giant turd. :(

Bad frame rates, bad dialogue and it's tough to tell when you've been hit.

I'm holding off.

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 02:27 PM
I'm reading that Two Worlds is pretty much one giant turd. :(

Bad frame rates, bad dialogue and it's tough to tell when you've been hit.

I'm holding off.


oh no :o I was gonna get this on my way home.....guess I can wait till a few more reviews flow in

fluxcapacitorsandwich
08-24-2007, 02:27 PM
i gotta watch the video for Two Worlds again, i don't recall ever being interested in it anyway, billy said it was something like oblivion, and that game didn't even interest me at all.

Chugga
08-24-2007, 02:33 PM
I'm playing the game right now as I type this and I can vouch for it being a giant turd of a videogame....maybe it gets better but so far it has been absolutely awful....graphics and slowdown aside this games gameplay is laughable...I've already contemplated bringing the game back to the store....something I've never done before...ever

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 02:49 PM
well......that sucks to hear Rob.............................but better you then me :p

Just kidding man. I got a soccer game tonight and then a FF draft after that. I'll be on after that though...so you can tell me what's good/bad about the game.

ps...did you know your main man Jamie Dukes got his own show on the NFL Network...aptly titled "Put Your Dukes Up"???

Chugga
08-24-2007, 02:50 PM
I advise anyone who was psyched for this game to rent it first and if by some strange grace of god you actually enjoy this piece of crap then buy it....but I would bet oh about $59.99 that you'd think it sucks and sucks bad

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 02:51 PM
oh well man......you still got like $190 in credit :p

Chugga
08-24-2007, 02:57 PM
I won't have the game by tonight its going back right now......this is the first offline game that I have ever played in my life that made me feel like somehow I have a bad connection to my own creakin xbox....I mean I'm pretty creakin sure I'm lagging OFFLINE

Chugga
08-24-2007, 03:01 PM
by the way I'm typing FREAKIN but my phone keeps auto spellchecking me

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 03:12 PM
I just thought it was some new slang they threw around on the rough streets of suburbia Connecticut

pyrrhonist
08-24-2007, 03:14 PM
Yikes, Chugga---thanks for the mini-review/thoughts. So I guess my fears from ages ago about it being unfair to compare a series with long-term roots (the Elder Scrolls) with this series (by a developer with no real credentials, no less) was a huge stretch. Damn, I was hoping what I was reading on GameFAQs was just the typical whining & complaining.

Is it still not even worth a rental?

PrimeBane
08-24-2007, 03:14 PM
Damn... you're posting on your iPhone Chugga?

avsfan21
08-24-2007, 03:15 PM
I didnt even know creakin would be a word in spellcheck.

pyrrhonist
08-24-2007, 03:15 PM
Is it still not even worth a rental?

Scratch that. My own reading of your last post answers that question. :p :o

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 03:17 PM
Damn... you're posting on your iPhone Chugga?


tell him Rob....you ****** know it!!!!!

Chugga
08-24-2007, 03:55 PM
you ****ing know it

Go iPhone by the way they wont let me return it that blows

MPCanes
08-24-2007, 04:07 PM
Like I said, I had no clue why you guys were excited about Two Worlds. A team with no track record handling an ambitious game, the PC version got crap reviews...other then premise, it had nothing going for it.

Glad it's worth avoiding.

Chugga
08-24-2007, 04:20 PM
Ok I'm finally off of my cell phone and on my computer I'll post up a detailed mini review for exactly why the game sucked so bad in a few minutes.

avsfan21
08-24-2007, 04:20 PM
you ****ing know it

Go iPhone by the way they wont let me return it that blows

Sounds like a trip to walmart is in order.

avsfan21
08-24-2007, 04:21 PM
I hope Cory sees it before he buys it.

Chugga
08-24-2007, 04:34 PM
Ok so lets start off, the game opens up you hear the backstory about what happened....apparently there was a war and the Orc God was killed but the other races (mainly humans) of the world wouldn't give the corpse back to the Orcs for proper burial, instead they kept him sealed up in a magic coffin. But thats neither here nor there. So you go to "start new game"

I'm pumped, the character builder is pretty deep. It's not exactly Oblivion but I mean theres alot of cool little features. The first tiny itty bity disappointment was when I started creating my guy and the skin tone bar went from a spectrum of Powder to Powders mildly darker brother. I wanted to create the great black suburban knight but no such luck. I settled for the great white knight with a tan. I get my height, limbs, eyes, nose, face etc all together and the game boots up.

The first thing you'll notice is how awful the graphics are but I mean this is a massive RPG who the hell cares about graphics in the long run. I mean character faces are borderline PS2 but it was something I could get over if the story/gameplay was stellar.

So anyways the intro movie starts up with some random guy and his sister fleeing but the sister doesn't make it and is inevidably kidnapped. Poor guy but who the hell cares, it's not my problem. Scratch that...it is my problem...the guy that I spent 10-15 minutes making in the character creater would be replaced by a generic generated character in the intro movie. But hey it's only the intro movie right, I'll get over it.

So anyways they finally unleash me into the open going into my first cave. The controls are just awful. I'm not sure if you want to call it unresponsiveness or lag but either way you get the idea. His motions on screen always seem to be a step or 2 behind what you are actually pressing. But oh well it's still got the potential for a great story. Then comes my first fight....the B button does a small leap backwards to dodge attacks and the trigger will start up a combo....1 trigger press is a stab, 2 is a stab then slash, 3 is a stab, slash, slash, you get the idea. It's alot like Fable but if Fable was awful and responded slowly. So anyways I'm still psyched my first fight with what look like trolls. I come in and hack away only to realize half of my health bar is gone...so I do the smart thing and hack, back away, hack back away, and by time both of them are dead I'm already completely and utterly disappointed in the combat system. So anyways I finish up the tomb, walk outside and see someone ontop of the hill so I go to talk to him and heres where the game was flat out over with in my mind and it was going back to the store....not only was the dialogue just awful, the voice acting was some of the worst I've seen but to top it all off what put the cherry on the top of this ice cream sundae of suck was the fact that Mr. Generic Created character was the one doing the talking again. From all indications I played far enough in the game to get a total of 4 cutscenes and my created character showed up in absolutely none of them.

That was it for me. The gameplay is sluggish and boring, the fighting system is some of the worst I've ever played in my life, and overall while I'm the farthest thing from a graphics ***** the same visuals that really brought me in and made me care for the world of Oblivion were tossed out the window in 2 worlds and made me wonder why I was even playing. Overall awful game, if you want to play it rent it. Anyone who spends $60 on this game is an idiot (including myself)...and I'm completely warning you. Do yourself a favor and if you really want to be the judge of it yourself rent the game first....if you really really wanna do yourself a favor pretend this game never exsisted.

Chugga
08-24-2007, 04:51 PM
Oh another favorite feature of mine is while looking through the beautiful forrests of the game don't be suprised to literally run into or through a tree that took a little too long to load.

R. Giles
08-24-2007, 04:56 PM
sounds like a great game you sure they weren't trying to have you log into a server with dial up to play

avsfan21
08-24-2007, 04:58 PM
I dont think he was logged onto anything. It was single player if I read correctly.

Chugga
08-24-2007, 05:00 PM
Yeah, thats the whole point of how ridiculous it is. I wasn't online, I was playing the single player mode and the game just felt slow in every sense of the word. Apparently from IGN it's a bad case of framerate issues.

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 08:54 PM
Is anyone still looking for the Limited Edition BioShock? I have an extra one. The only thing is the box it comes in is open. Because they had to change the Big Daddy figure.

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Ok so lets start off, the game opens up you hear the backstory about what happened....apparently there was a war and the Orc God was killed but the other races (mainly humans) of the world wouldn't give the corpse back to the Orcs for proper burial, instead they kept him sealed up in a magic coffin. But thats neither here nor there. So you go to "start new game"

I'm pumped, the character builder is pretty deep. It's not exactly Oblivion but I mean theres alot of cool little features. The first tiny itty bity disappointment was when I started creating my guy and the skin tone bar went from a spectrum of Powder to Powders mildly darker brother. I wanted to create the great black suburban knight but no such luck. I settled for the great white knight with a tan. I get my height, limbs, eyes, nose, face etc all together and the game boots up.

The first thing you'll notice is how awful the graphics are but I mean this is a massive RPG who the hell cares about graphics in the long run. I mean character faces are borderline PS2 but it was something I could get over if the story/gameplay was stellar.

So anyways the intro movie starts up with some random guy and his sister fleeing but the sister doesn't make it and is inevidably kidnapped. Poor guy but who the hell cares, it's not my problem. Scratch that...it is my problem...the guy that I spent 10-15 minutes making in the character creater would be replaced by a generic generated character in the intro movie. But hey it's only the intro movie right, I'll get over it.

So anyways they finally unleash me into the open going into my first cave. The controls are just awful. I'm not sure if you want to call it unresponsiveness or lag but either way you get the idea. His motions on screen always seem to be a step or 2 behind what you are actually pressing. But oh well it's still got the potential for a great story. Then comes my first fight....the B button does a small leap backwards to dodge attacks and the trigger will start up a combo....1 trigger press is a stab, 2 is a stab then slash, 3 is a stab, slash, slash, you get the idea. It's alot like Fable but if Fable was awful and responded slowly. So anyways I'm still psyched my first fight with what look like trolls. I come in and hack away only to realize half of my health bar is gone...so I do the smart thing and hack, back away, hack back away, and by time both of them are dead I'm already completely and utterly disappointed in the combat system. So anyways I finish up the tomb, walk outside and see someone ontop of the hill so I go to talk to him and heres where the game was flat out over with in my mind and it was going back to the store....not only was the dialogue just awful, the voice acting was some of the worst I've seen but to top it all off what put the cherry on the top of this ice cream sundae of suck was the fact that Mr. Generic Created character was the one doing the talking again. From all indications I played far enough in the game to get a total of 4 cutscenes and my created character showed up in absolutely none of them.

That was it for me. The gameplay is sluggish and boring, the fighting system is some of the worst I've ever played in my life, and overall while I'm the farthest thing from a graphics ***** the same visuals that really brought me in and made me care for the world of Oblivion were tossed out the window in 2 worlds and made me wonder why I was even playing. Overall awful game, if you want to play it rent it. Anyone who spends $60 on this game is an idiot (including myself)...and I'm completely warning you. Do yourself a favor and if you really want to be the judge of it yourself rent the game first....if you really really wanna do yourself a favor pretend this game never exsisted.

Seriously, What he said. :(


I love you BioShock. And I miss you Madden 08.

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 09:51 PM
you bought it too Billy???

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 09:54 PM
Wishing I didnt have to say this, but yes. :( Keith, It is BAD! Like Chugga said it's like playing a PS2 game.

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 09:56 PM
Is there a "This game sucks return policy" at Gamestop?

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 09:56 PM
we wouldn't even have fuin with it online...running around talking ish to each other????

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 10:00 PM
That's mainly why I bought it to play online with our "gang" but wow. It is choppy, looks like it may be a bit on the boring side, gameplay is weak. Just not as badass as I thought it was going to be. And the cutscenes really killed it for me. I wonder how much credit I can get for it after one night...?

someguy6000
08-24-2007, 10:04 PM
i thought you had a 7 day return for any reason with receipt policy at Gamestop

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 10:05 PM
well that sucks...I too was hoping to get 8 of us roaming around pillaging villages and killing monsters....oh well

Oblivion needs multiplayer...then we'd all be fine

oaktown2000
08-24-2007, 10:05 PM
i thought you had a 7 day return for any reason with receipt policy at Gamestop


I believe that's on used game purchases only

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 10:09 PM
Used games Matt. I might be able to work something with my friend at GS. But we'll see.

Funny thing is I never got into Oblivion... I guess I got to video game ****y. NCAA FB08, Madden08, BioShock. Three kick ass game in a row...than this....."game". :(

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 10:10 PM
You cant type c o c k y?

CJF28
08-24-2007, 10:31 PM
nor can you write dirt bag as one word

XSsoCX
08-24-2007, 10:34 PM
lol ok ty cory for that bit of info..... did you get my m.o. yet?

CJF28
08-24-2007, 10:40 PM
got it today
thanks