X-Box 360 (If you Have it only)

[Chugga]

Problem with magazines reviewing things is they don't give you enough information. OXM is guilty of this big time...they never really go over every bit and piece and allow you to make your own assumptions about the game, you are forced to go by their number. Now I think IGN's rating system is flat out garbage...but at least their reviews are long enough to allow me to pick through the BS score they are handing out.

I also agree with Full Auto...I thought it was a great game...not worth $60 but if it ever became a budget title you'd get enough fun out of it for $20 or so.

[Silent_Samurai]

Yeah, I have a subscription to OXM, and I like reading the mag, but I find that the reviews could give a lot more info than they do sometimes. Sometimes I'll find myself asking, well what about this feature or what about that feature?

When I purchase games, I mostly go by what I want to play first. I'll look at ratings it gets and what some of my friends I play with say. And then I'll make my decision based on that. Very, very few games do I pick up on their release date. I'll be picking up Gears and FEAR on the release date, but that's it so far. Oh yeah, I technically didn't pick up Dead RIsing on the release date, but one week later isn't necessarily way long after it's been released.

I like to hit the bay and pick up quite a few at a time for cheap and then if I thought the game was only so so, I didn't waste 60 on it.

[Chugga]

Actually a really good example would be the Enchanted Arms review. They gave it a 7.5...but reading through the article and picking away at the BS in it I saw a game that was worthy of a purchase.

Thats what sucks about IGN....90% of their reviews are dedicated to what sucks about the game.

The game does this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, it's got a pretty cool fighting system, it does this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, I had a hell of a time with the gameplay but more importantly it does this wrong, that wrong, this wrong, that other thing wrong, and more of that wrong.

Thats what absolutely killed the Full Auto review. It was a review based around all of the games shortcomings and they couldn't have cared less about how fun the game actually was. Same for the Outfit. Rating the outfit a 6.9 is ridiculous. It's not the greatest game out there....hell it isn't even close but it's fun and all they could do was rip away at the little setbacks it had. Hitman, NCAA Football, and Top Spin come to mind on lowballing. While Dead Rising is really the top notch of lowballing....an 8.3? The game at the very least is an 8.9-9.1 area.

The main problem with IGN is all the different systems have their own reviewers and to be completely honest with you the Xbox360 reviewers suck and are entirely too harsh. Dead Rising one of the most innovative and fun games I've played in a long @$$ time is on par with PS2's releases of a FFXI expansion, Flatout2, Gallop Racer, DANCE FACTORY?????

If those same games got released for the 360 the reviewers would have all of those titles in the 6's.

[MPCanes]

And Madden, once again, degrades into a crap fest in franchise modes.

In years past, defenders were stacked by year 15 or so. Any round pick safety, corner, or LB would be a 99 in 3 years.

Now, offenses are just idoitic and defenses are AWFUL.

The top 5 RBs usually get 2k+ rush yards.

top 5 receivers 1800-2200 yards with 15-30 TDs

QBs? 4k and 45/5 and you aren't making the pro bowl, son.

On defense, your best player is whoever a rookie is, and he degrades to off the team in 3 years. The highest rated vet DT is about a 45. Safeties, in the 50s. Corners, 70s, LBs, 60s.

Friggen awful. I seriously found this in 1 day of simming a franchise, I mean, why is this hard to notice?

[Silent_Samurai]

Oh good Lord. It's a good thing I don't read IGN reviews. I wouldn't get through any of them. A 7.5 is better than what OXM gave it, but still, a review that just hashes what's wrong over and over and over. That's a bit much.

On the other hand, I think with certain games, OXM can get a little overly rosy with some of their reviews. They'll rave about a certain game and not once clue you in to the possible annoyances in the game just to give you a heads up.

That's obnoxious what they said about Dead Rising. Dance Factory? that makes absolutely no sense at all. It seems to me like they are having PS fanboys rate xbox games.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

I'll agree on everything but NCAA and Dead Rising. NCAA football just seems like half of a game, especially after you play Madden. The framerate and the speed of NCAA is unacceptable. Dead Rising is good, but they practically force you to hurry through the game. Plus, it's the most repetitive game ever. I like it, but a 8.3 is all it deserves.

If you give everything a 9, where are the decent or average games? They're not saying that Enchanted Arms is bad, they're just saying that it's not an elite game that deserves a 9 or 10. 8 and above is for pretty good games. 7.5 just means that Enchanted Arms is average. Also, they have to rate games with price in mind. You both just said Full Auto is good, but not at full price. That's exactly why it got that score. For $60 you would feel ripped off, wouldn't you?

Actually a really good example would be the Enchanted Arms review. They gave it a 7.5...but reading through the article and picking away at the BS in it I saw a game that was worthy of a purchase.

Thats what sucks about IGN....90% of their reviews are dedicated to what sucks about the game.

The game does this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, it's got a pretty cool fighting system, it does this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, I had a hell of a time with the gameplay but more importantly it does this wrong, that wrong, this wrong, that other thing wrong, and more of that wrong.

Thats what absolutely killed the Full Auto review. It was a review based around all of the games shortcomings and they couldn't have cared less about how fun the game actually was. Same for the Outfit. Rating the outfit a 6.9 is ridiculous. It's not the greatest game out there....hell it isn't even close but it's fun and all they could do was rip away at the little setbacks it had. Hitman, NCAA Football, and Top Spin come to mind on lowballing. While Dead Rising is really the top notch of lowballing....an 8.3? The game at the very least is an 8.9-9.1 area.

The main problem with IGN is all the different systems have their own reviewers and to be completely honest with you the Xbox360 reviewers suck and are entirely too harsh. Dead Rising one of the most innovative and fun games I've played in a long @$$ time is on par with PS2's releases of a FFXI expansion, Flatout2, Gallop Racer, DANCE FACTORY?????

If those same games got released for the 360 the reviewers would have all of those titles in the 6's.

[DarthPredamorph]

Game reviewers are w****s anyway. :p

[Silent_Samurai]

well neither one of us is saying that all games deserve a 9 or a 9.5 ... and I bought Full Auto at 60 bucks, and you know what, I really don't feel ripped off. I've had my fun with it, it could have been better, yeah, but I don't feel ripped off, I've gotten my cash worth out of it.

And I and Chugga think Dead Rising deserved a 9 rating. You didn't. We can have a difference in opinion on ratings. We were really talking more about the fact that the rating system for the magazines were really not what we thought they should be. We totally agree that yeah, games should get what they are rated. Of course I fully realize that I may rate a game different from you, Chugga and Paul Curthoys at OXM. It's just that game raters probably spend so much time playing games, that it's more common place for them to pick apart the negatives and focus on those, without thinking about what really makes the game fun.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Can you blame them for being cynical? If I had to review half the crap they did, I wouldn't even play videogames anymore.

[DarthPredamorph]

I think magazine reviewers should have two people rate it and add up the scores and figure it all out. That way, the positives or the negatives outway the other, you know. It would be a much more fair system that way.

[Silent_Samurai]

yeah, I agree with that, I think that's how Game Informer does it though. I used to read Game Informer a while back, when my wife got me that gamestop card, and they would have the review and then a quick little second opinion. But I got tired of reading reviews for games on systems I was never going to play so once the sub ran out, I never renewed it.

And in a way, no I can't blame game reviewers for being cynical, however, they're there to give us an idea of how well they think a game plays, and that means having to look past some of the setbacks in a game and thinking about what they actually enjoy about the game.

[Graven-Images]

If you don't like playing video games, then don't be a game reviewer. It's that simple.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

It's not about whether they like video games, after enough negativity (bad games), it's easy to become cynical. Think about it the same way as starting a new job. When you first start, it's a pretty decent job. Then, you find out all the negative things about the job and you get tired of it. That's how they feel. Everybody gets tired of their job at some point. Of course they won't quit, there are no real qualifications to being a reviewer so it's an easy job to get and I doubt they get paid very much. It's not like they can quit and go be a Systems Analyst or something.

But we're getting off topic. Anybody played Bomberman yet? It's looks like they killed a classic. I haven't seen a review that was over a 5 for this game.

[JaylisJayP]

For some reason it seems like ALL of the 360 games are getting lowballed on reviews. It is pretty annoying. The 1 thing that's throwing me from getting Enchanted Arms is a grid-based fighting system. What the hell is that all about?

[Gooker1]

For some reason it seems like ALL of the 360 games are getting lowballed on reviews. It is pretty annoying. The 1 thing that's throwing me from getting Enchanted Arms is a grid-based fighting system. What the hell is that all about?


I can understand why though. I think this involved IGN back in the day when the XBox was released. WHen it was first released a lot of games w/i the first year of the system got really good reveiws, but they weren't as good as they were rated. So it inflated their overall ratings for all Xbox games - then when better games came out in year 2, they were tough to compare against a game that first got a 9 or something a year ago, but this new game was clearly better than the original. So, they've tightened up their scoring to better reflect good games.

[Jamesweighs]

OXM seems really off regarding reviews to me. I read several gaming mags, and that one is surprisingly the worst of all that I get. Their previews, features, etc, just seem to be lacking. One of the best I get is a British 360 mag.

I do like GI, but I really had an issue with their reviews for some of the old fighting games I played on ps2. Mortal Kombat was one. Best fighting game ever released? Not in my mind.

EGM is decent, I like their sense of humor, they seem to be pretty on par with my own views on most games.

But if I have been jonsing for game, most of the time I get it anyway, regardless of reviews. Looking at multiple reviews and getting feedback on the boards helps out with those titles I am on the fence on.

[DarthPredamorph]

If you don't like playing video games, then don't be a game reviewer. It's that simple.
Exactly.

[wrek537emc]

i actually like the gaming scale from xbm

as long as the rating is above an 8.5.. the game is worth looking into.

i mean i play graw RELIGIOUSLY and i think xbm only gave it a 8.5 or sumthin.. i would have given it a 9.3.... but i can see where they are coming from.. i have a list of things wut is wrong with the game.. but.. all and all.. the game is still great.

i like that if the game really sucks.. they arent scared to rate it a 2.

sum mags dont score that low.
and it makes me feel that they are sugar coating everything.

but you guy are right.. their reviews are not too in depth and you have to rely on the number.. but.. as long as you compare wut u like to the number scale.. then i think u can figure out wut games u'll end up buying.

[Jamesweighs]

I love Fight Night, but don't think it was a perfect 10.

[DarthPredamorph]

I love Fight Night, but don't think it was a perfect 10.
Me either. I think it's a 9.

[TastySweetNutz]

I watched G4's review of Enchanted Arms and they usually give pretty fair reviews to games. They didn't give EA a good grade and they pointed out the pros and cons about the game. I never wanted the game in the first place and I still don't.

[Serious Sam]

Some interesting info from Gamespot... Assassin's Creed has just been confirmed for the 360, going to be released the same day as the PS3 version.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6156938.html

[The Isomotion31]

Stupid work computers. I'll have to check that site out when I get home today.

[MarvLevyshead]

Some interesting info from Gamespot... Assassin's Creed has just been confirmed for the 360, going to be released the same day as the PS3 version.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6156938.html


Awesome.

Thanks for the head's up Sam.

The game looks beautiful and always hoped it would come to 360.

I need a freakin multiplayer game to buy for Live.

Maybe Fight Night if I can find it cheap.

I have College Hoops, but like, no one is ever on playing it.

:(

[Chugga]

Ok I just got through with a pretty long gaming session with Enchanted Arms. First and foremost I gotta speak on the characters because this is one of the weirdest parties I've ever played with in any RPG ever. From the beginning you are given 3 main characters. Your main character, Toya (a classmate of yours who is basically everything you aren't, smarter, faster, stronger, but too much of a boyscout, you're his risky side), and Makoto....wow where do I start with Makoto. He's a transvestite....and they don't try hiding it. Basically in the graphic novel that comes with the game you are told he's a transvestite but who cares right? It's not like it's a big deal. But the game for some odd reason makes it the biggest deal ever. Basically in any conversation you get in, in the game it's going to have Makoto hitting on your other male party member Toya. 2 minutes into the game you learn that Makoto has packed Toya a special lunch filled with love brownies and cheesecake topped with special love sauce (yeah I'm not kidding). Then comes the battle system (this is fun as hell, never done a grid based rpg before and now I'm kicking myself - battles actually require thought and knowledge of the power of your characters it's not a mashing A experience like with 95% of final fantasy). But anyways back to the battles...if I go in and my main character kills absolutely all of the people on screen and the rest of my party does nothing at the reward screen you'll likely hear Makoto say "wow we couldn't have done that without your leadership Toya". I seriously can't comment enough on how funny/awkward some of the scenes are in the beginning of the game when they are trying to establish how blatantly g*ay Makoto is. As the game progresses though things actually get pretty damn fun. Like I said the battle system is amazing. I don't really wanna give a review on the game yet though because I'm maybe only a couple hours in (tutorials are painfully long...they even tell you how you have to press the A button to interact with things....EVERY TIME YOU HAVE TO). So if anyone is actually thinking of buying it let me know if theres anything you wanna know.

[Silent_Samurai]

Some interesting info from Gamespot... Assassin's Creed has just been confirmed for the 360, going to be released the same day as the PS3 version.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6156938.html

For those of you people that doubt God exists, this should be proof right here.

That's awesome. I'm glad it's going to the 360.

As for 360 games getting lowballed. I don't know. Maybe it's finally that the PS dynasty is getting some great challenges and some fanboy reviewers are having a hard time with that? (Pure speculation)

As for OXM ... I think it seems they are harder because they're rating system has changed. You don't get 9.3's or 8.7's anymore or anything like that. Which to me was more accurate in rating a game. It's on .5's now, like 8 or 8.5 or 9. ... And when you read the reviews, they praise Dead Rising all around, but to see it with that 8.5, you're thinking ok, they loved it but only gave it an 8.5? I've seen some 7 rated games and the review is mostly positive, yet the negatives they give leave you wondering why they rated the game a 7. .... Who knows. ... I usually see a 7 or higher as a game purchase for me IF I really am looking forward to playing the game.

[DarthPredamorph]

For those of you people that doubt God exists, this should be proof right here.
It has nothing to do with God. Well, maybe a little....for helping along the 360. But other than that, Ubi Soft just isn't an exclusive type of company, ya know. Plus, the 360 is so easy to develop for that you can easily release it on the PS3 and 360 and if it doesn't do as well (though not as in "didn't even manage to sell half of their copies on the games release date") as originally expected on the 360, then it's no big loss.

[JaylisJayP]

Ok I just got through with a pretty long gaming session with Enchanted Arms. First and foremost I gotta speak on the characters because this is one of the weirdest parties I've ever played with in any RPG ever. From the beginning you are given 3 main characters. Your main character, Toya (a classmate of yours who is basically everything you aren't, smarter, faster, stronger, but too much of a boyscout, you're his risky side), and Makoto....wow where do I start with Makoto. He's a transvestite....and they don't try hiding it. Basically in the graphic novel that comes with the game you are told he's a transvestite but who cares right? It's not like it's a big deal. But the game for some odd reason makes it the biggest deal ever. Basically in any conversation you get in, in the game it's going to have Makoto hitting on your other male party member Toya. 2 minutes into the game you learn that Makoto has packed Toya a special lunch filled with love brownies and cheesecake topped with special love sauce (yeah I'm not kidding). Then comes the battle system (this is fun as hell, never done a grid based rpg before and now I'm kicking myself - battles actually require thought and knowledge of the power of your characters it's not a mashing A experience like with 95% of final fantasy). But anyways back to the battles...if I go in and my main character kills absolutely all of the people on screen and the rest of my party does nothing at the reward screen you'll likely hear Makoto say "wow we couldn't have done that without your leadership Toya". I seriously can't comment enough on how funny/awkward some of the scenes are in the beginning of the game when they are trying to establish how blatantly g*ay Makoto is. As the game progresses though things actually get pretty damn fun. Like I said the battle system is amazing. I don't really wanna give a review on the game yet though because I'm maybe only a couple hours in (tutorials are painfully long...they even tell you how you have to press the A button to interact with things....EVERY TIME YOU HAVE TO). So if anyone is actually thinking of buying it let me know if theres anything you wanna know.

I'm actually strongly considering buying this after I get tired of Saints Row...how are 1.) the graphics, and 2.) do you get a feel for how many hours of gameplay you'll get out of it?

[Silent_Samurai]

From screen shots that I have seen, Enchanted Arms looks pretty cool IMO, I think they'll do well enough for you.

[Chugga]

I'm actually strongly considering buying this after I get tired of Saints Row...how are 1.) the graphics, and 2.) do you get a feel for how many hours of gameplay you'll get out of it?

Graphics are weak. Character models are weak, dialogue models are weak, environments are a very strong hit or miss. The environments at some points are "oh my god thats amazing" and other times it's "ehh thats cool I guess". Golem creation graphics are also pretty eye opening. But the graphics are NOT this games strong point what-so-ever. The character models are actually borderline xbox-ish. But I'm also comparing graphics to Oblivion so thats a hard act to follow.

As for gameplay I'm pretty sure I'll get plenty of hours out of this game. I had played for like 5 hours and they said I had barely scratched the surface on the completion page. The game has over 100 playable characters and 5 hours into the game I had the opportunity to play as maybe 7 or 8.

[JaylisJayP]

hmm...well, I do still have Saints Row and Kameo to play. Samurai Warriors 2 may be next if that gets decent reviews...then maybe Enchanted Arms when it's down to around 30 bucks or so. Which shouldn't be too long because I don't think that many people picked this one up.

[TastySweetNutz]

hmm...well, I do still have Saints Row and Kameo to play. Samurai Warriors 2 may be next if that gets decent reviews...then maybe Enchanted Arms when it's down to around 30 bucks or so. Which shouldn't be too long because I don't think that many people picked this one up.
I'm in the same boat. I've got so many games to finish before I pick another one up. Madden, NCAA, FN rd3, Dead Rising and Hitman are currently in my rotation and I can't fit anything else in. I'll wait for Saints Row to drop, but I'll need to finish a game or two before NBA and NHL come out.

[Chugga]

If you still have Kameo I'd definately suggest beating Kameo....I have Saint's Row and Enchanted Arms and I simply don't play Enchanted Arms because it's not as good as Saints Row

[JaylisJayP]

speaking of Saints Row....where in the hell are all these hitman people? I go to the neighborhood they're supposed to be in but haven't been able to find a single one yet.

[avsfan21]

You just have to kind of drive around until you see a target pop up on your map. That is where they are. I kind of wish they told you where they are also. It can be a pain to be driving around for like 20 minutes trying to find one. I also wish you didnt have to have them active on your Hud for them to show up. They should just show up when you are driving around. Another thing that sucks is that you have to kill them with that weapon. I need to kill this fool with a nightstick but I cant a freaking cop to drop one at the moment, all they drop is handguns and shotguns.

[avsfan21]

Omg I just noticed when I punched a cop that he dropped a doughnut.

[JaylisJayP]

so the target doesn't pop up over the guy? It just pops up in your map?

[avsfan21]

Yeah it just pops up on the map. You will be just driving around then you look at your little map on the screen and there will be a little hitman icon moving around. You really have to watch your map when doing those missions.

[avsfan21]

I hate the freaking turf battles where they are like loaded with freaking rpgs.

[JaylisJayP]

Yeah it just pops up on the map. You will be just driving around then you look at your little map on the screen and there will be a little hitman icon moving around. You really have to watch your map when doing those missions.

ugghh, i may not be doing those.

On another note, I've made it to Level 7 on the insurance fraud!

[avsfan21]

Same thing with the chop shops really. They dont really tell you where to find one. They give you kind of an area to look then you have to go find one. Some arent hard but others are near impossible to find.

[Bronx Bombers]

Anybody else get to Madden Gamer level 50?

[Moe Szyslak]

I had no intention of buying Saints Row, w/ Madden still new and Star Wars Lego coming out soon, but because of all I read on this board, I picked it up and Im glad I did. This is a great game.

[TastySweetNutz]

Anybody else get to Madden Gamer level 50?
Level 50?? Damn...I'm just getting to level 7.

[Bronx Bombers]

Level 50?? Damn...I'm just getting to level 7.


Got most of it by simulating SS and Franchise

[GOSKINS_08]

I got saints row today..Its a good game from what I have played so far.

[TastySweetNutz]

Got most of it by simulating SS and Franchise
I gotcha. I'm only 8 games into my franchise with some scattered playing of the mini games.

[Bronx Bombers]

I gotcha. I'm only 8 games into my franchise with some scattered playing of the mini games.


I think if you simulate around 28 years you will get it.

[bornloser]

Ack I just finally picked up Dead Rising! Arg I also really want enchanted arms

when is my lottery ticket gonna come in?

[JaylisJayP]

I'm more and more intrigued by Enchanted Arms, the way I'm plowing through Saints Row, it'll be a couple weeks until I need something new.

Dang, I have 3 games reserved by they don't come out until the end of Oct./early Nov.

Marvel Ultimate Alliance, F.E.A.R. and Gears.

Let's just bypass September and get straight to the holiday season....it's so close.

[edschmoe]

I am about 25% done with Enchanted Arms and I absolutely love it. Been pllaying RPG's for about 20 odd years now and this one is a good one. Character voices are tough but the battle system rocks. If you like RPGs I would highly recommend this game

[JaylisJayP]

I am about 25% done with Enchanted Arms and I absolutely love it. Been pllaying RPG's for about 20 odd years now and this one is a good one. Character voices are tough but the battle system rocks. If you like RPGs I would highly recommend this game

cool, i may pick this up yet.

[bornloser]

Me 3! :D I figured on it be just so-so since its the first attempt at a next gen rpg but the more I read about the more I want it. Soooo whos gonna buy it for me? ;)

Gears of War - November 12 - Cant Wait!

[JaylisJayP]

anyone know the 411 on Just Cause? Looks like it's another GTA-type game, or am I way off base here?

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

Just finished playing the F.E.A.R. demo. I can't wait. My PC could never handle it, so I'm glad I'll finally get to own it. Graphics are incredible.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Gears of War - November 7th - Cant Wait!

Fixed it for you. Nov. 12th is a Sunday. No game will ever come out on Sunday. The release date is Nov. 7th.

[Messenjah]

some questions for Madden 07 owners...

Are there any camera options at all that I'm not finding?

How do you raise the attributes of Created Players? I know you can in Franchise by training him but the exibition-roster stays the same.

Is there no way to just watch a CPU vs CPU game? I thought I heard you could actually pick a seat number in the stadium and watch the game from the crowd? That would be cool.

[boomheadshot45]

no the release date is the 12. They start doing the big "push" in advertisement for Gears of War on the 7th

[bornloser]

no the release date is the 12. They start doing the big "push" in advertisement for Gears of War on the 7th

Wow! This game better live up to the hype!

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Then why does EB, Gamestop, IGN, and Gamefaqs.com have the release date as the 7th. I could probably look up a few other places that also have it as the 7th. Just looked it up, even the Gears of War official website has a link that says the 7th. Are you still going to fight me on this?

[bornloser]

Gears of War - November 12 - Cant Wait![/QUOTE]

When I wrote that i got it off ign's website which says nov.12. All i know is it better not be delayed :mad: I dont want to see it at next years E3. Hell im still waiting for starcraft ghost...lol

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

Then why does EB, Gamestop, IGN, and Gamefaqs.com have the release date as the 7th. I could probably look up a few other places that also have it as the 7th. Just looked it up, even the Gears of War official website has a link that says the 7th. Are you still going to fight me on this?

Because EB etc. all list the ship date. The developers themselves have stated officially that it's the 12th. If we hear something official from them stating the 7th, then that'll change, but right now those sites only list the ship date.

A game CAN launch on a sunday, GOW wouldn't be the first. Hell, even the recent DS lite released on a sunday.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

How about you go to the official website where you can click a link that shows you a release date of the 7th. I believe the official website over you. Until you can find a link on the official website that says anything different, I'm done with the conversation. By the way, I know about listing the ship date, but that's usually one or two days difference. If it takes 5 days to get there, they must be shipping by bicycle now.

By the way, when did the DS Lite become a game?
Because EB etc. all list the ship date. The developers themselves have stated officially that it's the 12th. If we hear something official from them stating the 7th, then that'll change, but right now those sites only list the ship date.

A game CAN launch on a sunday, GOW wouldn't be the first. Hell, even the recent DS lite released on a sunday.

[Chugga]

Wow I've never seen such a heated debate over something so trivial. It comes out in November....thats all I care about now being as though we are in early September.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

What? I'm not mad at anybody here. I just had to point out over and over again that it said Nov. 7 on the official site. If I came off like an ass, I'm sorry.

[BeefEaster]

games hardly ever come out on their release dates

it's more of a ship date, the factory actually ships the game to retailers but they don't get them for a couple days

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Except in the case of big name games. Remember Halo? Retailers had that game for a week so it came out on release. Target never has games until way after the release dates, but they had Halo 2 and they always have Madden on release. Big name games come out on their release date because they are shipped out early.

In other news: This conversation bores me. Let's change the subject.

Anybody know how to keep the convicts from coming back when you fight them outside in Dead Rising? I'm getting tired of them killing everybody I try to rescue.

[BeefEaster]

blow up their jeep

[Silent_Samurai]

woo hoo I'm number 19 now on the Galaga leaderboards. :D

also I'm playing Call of Cthulhu right now ... and it's alright. There are still a couple of xbox 1 games that I wanted to play that I hadn't got aroudn to and this was one of em. For a survival horror the graphics sure are wanting. Makes the game very unscary.

[bornloser]

Can I throw a random xbox game out there (since it was mentioned)...Oddworld Strangers Wrath

Oddworld Inhabitants went under so we may never see a game like it again :(

BTW its not backwards compatible - double :(

[Smbdyfnkillme]

I love Stranger's Wrath. Did you actually throw out your Xbox? As soon as they said the backwards compatibility was going to be software based instead of hardware based, I made sure to keep my regular Xbox. Don't forget Panzer Dragoon. Hard to find, but well worth it.

Can I throw a random xbox game out there (since it was mentioned)...Oddworld Strangers Wrath

Oddworld Inhabitants went under so we may never see a game like it again :(

BTW its not backwards compatible - double :(

[bornloser]

I sold my xbox and all my games on ebay earlier this year. Ive regretted it everyday :(
I needed the money at the time though...blah

Of course I had panzer dragoon orta :) Even though the xbox brought in alot of "ahem" gamers it had some truly great game. They had an article in a recent issue of PLAY about the original xbox. It was neato!

[JaylisJayP]

I sold my xbox and all my games on ebay earlier this year. Ive regretted it everyday :(
I needed the money at the time though...blah

Of course I had panzer dragoon orta :) Even though the xbox brought in alot of "ahem" gamers it had some truly great game. They had an article in a recent issue of PLAY about the original xbox. It was neato!

i echo this. I sold my xbox and all the games, and even though I have my 360 and a PS2, I miss the XBOX.

The XBOX in my opinion was/is such a better system than the PS2.

[bornloser]

Im an RPG freak so the I played more PS2 than xbox. Although I think the more memorable (Ninja Gaiden!) games were on xbox :)

[Smbdyfnkillme]

The only thing I hated about the Xbox was the lack of games. If you were a fighting game or wrestling fan, you were out of luck. RPG fan? Out of luck and it looks to be the same with XBox 360 on all of these genres. If you like DOA 4, fine, but most fighting game fans hate that game. Until Xbox 360 can convince people that it's really Japanese:p , it will lack in these genres.

[Chugga]

Out of luck with RPGs on the Xbox?

KOTOR and Jade Empire were absolutely amazing. Great gameplay paired with 2 of the strongest stories I've seen in rpgs. Also there was Morrowind (wasn't a huge fan), KOTOR2 (great game, but told a necessary story, not so much a fun one), and Fable (great game, too short). In less than a year we already have Oblivion and Enchanted Arms out.

To be honest I think RPG's is the last thing Xbox is lacking. Problem is PS2 & PS3 will likely get a ton of RPG's but more often then not you are playing through sub-par games. One thing I liked about Xbox was you weren't getting 50 rpg's a year but what you got was worth a year full of games.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Yes out of luck. For every good Xbox RPG you can name, I can name 3 good PS2 RPGs. They weren't as lackluster as you claim and I absolutely hated KOTOR's battle system and Enchanted Arms looks to be just as bad (grid based combat:rolleyes: ). Whether you liked the few RPGs that Xbox had or not, it was definitely lacking.

[Chugga]

Well as an RPG fan I definately don't feel out of luck what-so-ever and I own a Xbox360 so I wonder how that works out.

By the way whats so bad about a grid based system? It actually requires thought....it's a hell of alot more engaging then tapping the A button 50 million times just to rush through stupid random battles like in alot of the FF's I've played. FF10 is one of my favorite games of all time and I only had to actually try let alone 'think' in maybe 1 or 2 battles if that.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Good for you. I'll own all the systems once again and have no bias towards one system over the other.

[Silent_Samurai]

as a fighting game I like DOA ... I think a lot of people don't like it, because it takes more than just button mashing to win a game. Especially with someone who knows what they are doing in the game. I like the Team Ninja games, they may be harder than snot sometimes, but man are they well done. Although, sometimes I think they can be a tad too hard. Playing Alpha-152 on DOA4 is about as controller chucking aggravating as anything.

I also hope Microsoft never truly takes a route that tries to convince people that it's Japanese. It doesn't need to, if Microsoft can't convince people that the 360 is a great gaming console in and of its own merits, and needs to pretend to be Japanese to lure in gamers, then they should have never made the thing in the first place. In fact if they would just try to gain the lion's share of the market here in the states first and then concentrate on other places like Japan, I think they'd do a lot better. I think they'd have a faster success rate than they are having now. Not that I think the success rate is bad, but I think it could be better.

[Chugga]

Good for you. I'll own all the systems once again and have no bias towards one system over the other.

Well then I offer you congratulations

[Smbdyfnkillme]

I was kidding on the Japanese comment. An american system will never be successful there and that's all there is to it. As far as DOA, it' s ok, but it is by far a button masher when compared to Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter and Tekken. I can see I'm causing trouble now so I'm gone for the night.

[bornloser]

KOTOR, Jade, and Morrowind were great but they werent tradional rpgs. The true rpg nerds like stuff like Xenosaga, Grandia, Final Fantasy, and Shadow Hearts. I even play through the crappy ones so the amount of them doesnt bother me :D

[Chugga]

as a fighting game I like DOA ... I think a lot of people don't like it, because it takes more than just button mashing to win a game. Especially with someone who knows what they are doing in the game. I like the Team Ninja games, they may be harder than snot sometimes, but man are they well done. Although, sometimes I think they can be a tad too hard. Playing Alpha-152 on DOA4 is about as controller chucking aggravating as anything.

I also hope Microsoft never truly takes a route that tries to convince people that it's Japanese. It doesn't need to, if Microsoft can't convince people that the 360 is a great gaming console in and of its own merits, and needs to pretend to be Japanese to lure in gamers, then they should have never made the thing in the first place. In fact if they would just try to gain the lion's share of the market here in the states first and then concentrate on other places like Japan, I think they'd do a lot better. I think they'd have a faster success rate than they are having now. Not that I think the success rate is bad, but I think it could be better.

Dead or Alive 4 is a hell of a fighting game. Once you finally beat it with all of the characters and get rid of ever having to fight Alpha-152 ever again the game is amazing. We generally play it once a week at my house and the matches are really close. The thing I like about it is exactly what you said. If a noob picks up a 360 controller and goes head to head against me in dead or alive I never have to worry about losing. With some other games sometimes you'll get blown away by just random button presses. I know in Soul Caliber I've had my @$$ handed to me on a number of occassions by people who were just like "i'm going to press 50 buttons at once" and it actually paid off.

I'm still a huge fan of Tekken though...but they are really 2 different fighting games it's hard to compare both of them.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

I know in Soul Caliber I've had my @$$ handed to me on a number of occassions by people who were just like "i'm going to press 50 buttons at once" and it actually paid off.

It's called the block button, use it.

[bornloser]

I was kidding on the Japanese comment. An american system will never be successful there and that's all there is to it. As far as DOA, it' s ok, but it is by far a button masher when compared to Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter and Tekken. I can see I'm causing trouble now so I'm gone for the night.

You troublemaker :p I see your point though. The Japanese seem like the only ones excited about the PS3 while here in america the 360 prospers.

Oh well lets all buy the Wii and call it a day! ;)

[Chugga]

It's called the block button, use it.

If you are using a traditionally slow character you can block all day against a button masher in that game and you are going to get hurt sooner or later. Saying that Dead or Alive is a button mashing game is probably the weirdest thing I've ever heard. You can button mash all you want in that game and you won't do crap against anyone who is even slightly decent in the game.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

That's not true. I only use Astaroth, nobody else. I've even won a few tournaments. Maxi is fast as hell, but Astaroth has reach and strength over everybody.

[bornloser]

I played alot of doa 4 when it was out and can definately say its not a button masher. I know cause I suck at fighting games and mashed my way to defeat many-a-times. :)

Give me 2D fightin or give me death

[Chugga]

Decent player vs. Noob in soul caliber = decent player wins 80% of the time

Decent player vs. Noob in dead or alive = decent player wins 99% of the time

I should also say when me and my friends play fighting games we don't "use" anyone....it's all random and with random characters I could get stuck with my absolute worst character in DOA and still take out any button masher that I play.

[Silent_Samurai]

I'm getting better at DOA .. though I'm still not up to speed with people who really know what they are doing. I can do well with Ryu (like everyone else on the planet) and Elliet, but me and two other friends like to play it together and one of those friends is just one of those people when it comes to video games. He picks it up and he's instantly kicking everyone's arse at it. It's insane how good he can be. However, we're starting to get close with him on matches in DOA. Because it can take a little more thinking to that game than your other fighting games. Counters are key in that game. That's the thing I have the hardest with.

I don't necessarily disagree with the xbox not being successful in Japan. However, the iPod is enormously successful in Japan, so I can see the possibility. However, I'm not going to make any blind statements to the xbox's success in Japan. However, I think it would be much more successful if they really put more energy into gettings the majority of gamers on their side here in the US, as opposed to as much emphasis that they put into winning over Japan this year.

Back to DOA, I don't think you're causing trouble at all, but I don't see it as a button masher, I can see people mashing buttons, but you're literally only going to come up with the same 4 or 5 combo moves over and over and that turns out to be easy to block and counter, plus, doing the same moves over and over won't get you anywhere, especially when you know how to string out those moves and get 9 and 10+ hit combos.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

There's your problem, you don't like games like Soul Calibur because you have to master a character. I know all of Astaroth's moves and what situation to use each move in. I have King mastered on Tekken, and Wolf on Virtua Fighter. Makes the game more fun when you use one character. Every time you lose, you get to go back to the drawing board and figure out a new strategy. If you're using random characters, you can just say "I suck with this guy" and learn nothing from your loss.

We'll continue this tomorrow.

[Silent_Samurai]

I should also say when me and my friends play fighting games we don't "use" anyone....it's all random and with random characters I could get stuck with my absolute worst character in DOA and still take out any button masher that I play.

Me and my friends always do random as well. It's more fun that way and can be a bit more fun when playing my friend Nathan. If he gets Ayane, I might as well put down the controller, cause I know he'll win hands down. However, if he gets anyone else, I have a chance.

[Silent_Samurai]

There's your problem, you don't like games like Soul Calibur because you have to master a character. I know all of Astaroth's moves and what situation to use each move in. I have King mastered on Tekken, and Wolf on Virtua Fighter. Makes the game more fun when you use one character. Every time you lose, you get to go back to the drawing board and figure out a new strategy. If you're using random characters, you can just say "I suck with this guy" and learn nothing from your loss.

We'll continue this tomorrow.

The thing about that is, where I'm concerned in this ... you're talking about mastering a game character. Something I'll never do simply because I don't play that much. That's why my gamer zone is Recreation. Because I put in maybe 1 hour a day. And I like trying everyone out. It's fun. I probably will never really master anyone character, but I'll probably be good with Ryu because of playing him in the single player stuff.

[Chugga]

If you are playing with all the characters you are learning with EVERYONE. Just because I have a "worst" character doesn't mean I'm bad with him and don't know how to use him...it just means when those random faces pop up I'd much rather see Spartan over Ein. Fact of the matter is if we wanna play Dead or Alive for 2 hours straight the last thing I'd want is to play a snore fest of 4 people using the exact same character for 50 matches straight.

Anyone can master a character, it just takes time, practice, and patience. The question is how effective can you be across the entire board? What if they throw your opponent Helena...who just happens to be his best character and you get Tengu...a character you haven't had the most luck with. Can you overcome the handicap you have straight out of the gate?

[Chugga]

Me and my friends always do random as well. It's more fun that way and can be a bit more fun when playing my friend Nathan. If he gets Ayane, I might as well put down the controller, cause I know he'll win hands down. However, if he gets anyone else, I have a chance.

It's the same way with my friends. If someone gets a certain character I know I'm screwed but it makes the battle all the more fun if I can down his best option. With me I'm pretty versitile....you can stick me with ANY of the grapplers and I'm at home....same for slower combo-heavy characters like Ein, Genfu, Elliot, Kokoro, etc. It's the other characters that I'm hit or miss with. Ryu and Jan Lee I'm on point with....Ayane and Tengu often times leave me baffled. I've tried for months now and I can't really put them to use the same way I can with the other characters, but sooner or later it will happen.

[DarthPredamorph]

You know...the save system in Dead Rising isn't bad at all. You get over it real quick, especially if you have an extra storage device, like a memory card or something.

What's most annoying about this game is the small text, the transmissions from Otis, and the scoop time limits. Actually, I dunno if it's the scoop time limits that are annoying or if it's the really fast time system they use. Either way, I lost tons and tons of scoops on my first playthrough. Way more than I figured I'd have lost, and I do mean "WAY" more.

Another thing that's annoying is the A.I. It's feels really "last-gen," so to speak. I mean, I know some of these people are supposed to be freaked out and scared....but you'd think most people would be able to fight back to some degree...especially when I hand them a ****ing steel pipe or a baseball bat. But nooooo, they just stand there and do nothing while I get clobbered and then they don't even attack Zombies within their range half the time on top of that.


It's a good game, no doubt. But those are the things that I noticed first hand would piss me off and I called it 100 percent. Other than that the game is fun as hell.

[Silent_Samurai]

It's the same way with my friends. If someone gets a certain character I know I'm screwed but it makes the battle all the more fun if I can down his best option. With me I'm pretty versitile....you can stick me with ANY of the grapplers and I'm at home....same for slower combo-heavy characters like Ein, Genfu, Elliot, Kokoro, etc. It's the other characters that I'm hit or miss with. Ryu and Jan Lee I'm on point with....Ayane and Tengu often times leave me baffled. I've tried for months now and I can't really put them to use the same way I can with the other characters, but sooner or later it will happen.

I'm not real good with the grapples. Simply because the emphasis is so much more on the throws and the counters. I've had such a hard time with the counter moves. But yeah, it's still good fun.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

The thing about that is, where I'm concerned in this ... you're talking about mastering a game character. Something I'll never do simply because I don't play that much. That's why my gamer zone is Recreation. Because I put in maybe 1 hour a day. And I like trying everyone out. It's fun. I probably will never really master anyone character, but I'll probably be good with Ryu because of playing him in the single player stuff.

Do you really think I put in more than an hour a day gaming wise? After work, I usually work out and do homework (working on my Masters). Videogames are usually reserved for the weekends. If you use one character, you will learn a lot about them. The way they move, their weaknesses and their strengths. I think it's more fun when you know that any mistake you make is going to be punished. Especially in Tekken where any mistake could mean half of your life bar. I can play as multiple characters on all fighting games including DOA 4 ( until I traded it in with that awesome deal that Gamestop had this weekend), I just would rather be my best against your best.

Did anybody else take advantage of that weekend trade in deal from Gamestop? It paid for my Gears of War and part of F.E.A.R.

[Silent_Samurai]

I didn't because I don't have any games to trade in right now. I have a few games that I bought and haven't started or I want to try and get the rest of the achievement points for some. Plus I didn't realize that this would apply to reserved games. Not like it would have mattered anyway if I wasn't going to be trading in anything soon. It sure was a dang good deal though.

And the thing about fighting games, I guess we just like to play them different. Because the way you're talking about MASTERING a character, makes it sound like you're a lot more hardcore about games than I am, and you might be and that's fine. So, yeah, the way you're talking about mastering a game character lends the impression that you play more than an hour a day. But like what Chugga said, I like to play more all across the board. Plus, I'm not going to go online and play people I don't know. I stick with people on my friends list and that's pretty much it. So, I probably won't get the S and SS acheivements for DOA and that's fine with me.

[Jamesweighs]

I usually try to learn as much as possible with almost all characters in fighting games. Sometimes you get surprised by certain ones you wouldn't have normally used, and they might become your favorites. I can think of a few examples in Tekken, SC, and VF for me.

Just had to add
decent player vs button masher in VF4- decent player wins 100%.:p

[Jamesweighs]

In case you have not seen it yet.

Newest Forza 2 trailer.

Holy crap does this look amazing.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/0/f/50f428c1-4b59-4582-bf52-017618c801c9/ForzaMotorsport2_Damage_ESRB_720p_ST.wmv

[TrebleX]

NHL 07 soon guys... this is gonna be so major!!! :D !!! Gonna be the best NHL game since 94! Watch and see :p

[JaylisJayP]

NHL 07 soon guys... this is gonna be so major!!! :D !!! Gonna be the best NHL game since 94! Watch and see :p


I can't handle another game on my list, I'm already at this:

Enchanted Arms
Samurai Warriors 2
F.E.A.R.
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Gears of War
Hitman
Gun (when it's about 20 bucks or less)
Possibly Just Cause

STOP WITH THE GOOD GAMES ALREADY!!!! :D

[Jamesweighs]

Mass Effect looks really good too.

For me it's

Forza 2
Tiger Woods
Splinter Cell
Rainbow 6
Gears of War

And I'll probably get NHL. It looks really really nice.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Take Just Cause off of your list and add NHL 2K7( not NHL 07). That Just Cause demo was terrible.

[BeefEaster]

yeah, just cause looks silly crazy awfull

[Jamesweighs]

don't know about 2k7, I usually stick with them in hockey, but this year I think the EA might be better. EA souped up the graphics and gameplay both this year. I am eager to see how the "all analog" control scheme will work. Works great for Fight Night...

The previews I've seen of the 2K series seem disappointing. Let's hope the gameplay is still great, but they need to work on the presentation and graphics.

[JaylisJayP]

Take Just Cause off of your list and add NHL 2K7( not NHL 07). That Just Cause demo was terrible.

good to know, thanks for the info

[BeefEaster]

just got the f.e.a.r. demo

getting ready to try it out now

[JaylisJayP]

i loved the fear demo, but it's pretty short. Nevertheless it made me reserve the game and pay off half of it with my remaining credit.

[BeefEaster]

yeah, it was short.....wow....

and what's with the A.I.?

i heard it was suppose to be really good but there were several times in the demo where i literally just walked right up to an enemy and shot him point blank in the face without him even looking at me or defending himself

[TrebleX]

Take Just Cause off of your list and add NHL 2K7( not NHL 07). That Just Cause demo was terrible.

2K7 looks like crap compared to 07 bud... I used to like the 2K games, but 07 is just too crazy.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

2K7 looks like crap compared to 07 bud... I used to like the 2K games, but 07 is just too crazy.

Based on last year's versions, 2K6 played a lot better. Unless EA pulls something out of their ***, it will be the same case this year. I don't care about graphics. I've read the same previews as you. Those same website previews also don't mention whether the game is actually any good. All of those same websites have played Just Cause, but you don't see any of them telling us how awful it is. After Live 06, and Madden 06, I can't trust EA until the game is actually in my hands and I can confirm it's good. I've already confirmed Madden is good:D

[evachrono]

yeah, it was short.....wow....

and what's with the A.I.?

i heard it was suppose to be really good but there were several times in the demo where i literally just walked right up to an enemy and shot him point blank in the face without him even looking at me or defending himself

Are you able to set the diffulty in the demo if so put it at for some crazy AI ;)

[BeefEaster]

Are you able to set the diffulty in the demo if so put it at for some crazy AI ;)

uh, no
i don't think so
i'm gonna play again later
i went out drinkin' last night and i'm feelin' kinda.......disorientated at the moment

[evachrono]

uh, no
i don't think so
i'm gonna play again later
i went out drinkin' last night and i'm feelin' kinda.......disorientated at the moment


Ah well don't worry about the A I seeing how this is a port of the PC ver the A I should be the same and trust me the A I is great and really fun to fight against ;)

[BeefEaster]

that one gun's really cool that like, vaporizes people

but i wish you could carry more guns at once, i had a hard time deciding what i wanted to keep

[BeefEaster]

some dooshbag over on gamefags just spoiled the ending of saint's row on it's message board

i hate it when people do that ****

[evachrono]

some dooshbag over on gamefags just spoiled the ending of saint's row on it's message board

i hate it when people do that ****

:eek: I was just on that forum good thing I miss it ....I guess I better stay away from gamefaqs saints row thread for now >_>

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Rule #1, stay away from any game specific message boards until you finish that particular game. Somebody always ruins it. I hurried through Halo, ICO and several other games because of this.

[Silent_Samurai]

I can't handle another game on my list, I'm already at this:

Enchanted Arms
Samurai Warriors 2
F.E.A.R.
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Gears of War
Hitman
Gun (when it's about 20 bucks or less)
Possibly Just Cause

STOP WITH THE GOOD GAMES ALREADY!!!! :D

You could probably pick up Gun on the bay (if you don't mind a used copy) for about 20 bucks or less if you just watch for a bit and be patient. By the time it actually goes down to 20 bucks in the stores new or used, I'm sure you'll have found a copy for less than 20 on ebay.

[oaktown2000]

You could probably pick up Gun on the bay (if you don't mind a used copy) for about 20 bucks or less if you just watch for a bit and be patient. By the time it actually goes down to 20 bucks in the stores new or used, I'm sure you'll have found a copy for less than 20 on ebay.

Or.....go to Blockbuster...rent it for $8 and beat it within the week......it's a very short game.

[avsfan21]

Or.....go to Blockbuster...rent it for $8 and beat it within the week......it's a very short game.

That is what I did. It was an alright game, nothing special. I havent played the 360 version, but from what I saw it looks almost the same as the xbox version.

[DarthPredamorph]

Okay, finally go close enough to jack the gun turret on the back of the convicts care and I tore their asses up. Stole their vehicle and set off to destroy all of the zombies in the entire outside courtyard. I quickly realized you couldn't....because the zombies freaking respawn!

A few people (a while back) said that they didn't respawn in the full game. Well, they were wrong. After that I noticed that they would respawn (most of the time) after leaving one side of a big room and returning. This is just bull****. I hate respawing enemies. Give it the illusion of realism, instead of having them just up and appear like that. Instead of being in the Paradise Plaza and having the zombies just respawn...why don't I walk up to the glass doors and seeing them sliding through the cracks or them breaking through ****. It would be better than having them respawn like they do.

One question though, is there an infinite amount of Zombies in 72 hour mode? As in, there are always large groups of zombies in their designated areas that you usually see them in? Or are you able to deplete their numbers until they rarely respawn anymore?

[Silent_Samurai]

Or.....go to Blockbuster...rent it for $8 and beat it within the week......it's a very short game.


or that too

[DarthPredamorph]

Okay, second playthrough I'm still getting the transmissions from Otis out the ass. Do I have to answer them all right away or can I say, wait a while and finish a scoop and then answer the transmissions? Because frankly, I see this going down the same path as before...way too many scoops and not nearly enough time to get to them all.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

The zombie's always respawn. It's annoying, but it makes it easy to get Zombie Genocider and the Mega Buster. As far as Otis's transmissions, you can ignore them, but he'll just keep calling and calling and calling.......

[DarthPredamorph]

So....if he's got the Machette(sp?) Maniac scoop next in line...I can just ignore him (and his damn transmissions) for a while as I'm finishing another one and when I'm done, the next time he sends a transmission, he'll give me the Machette Maniac scoop and so on?

There needs to be a mode where the Zombies don't respawn....where you can literally decimate the entire hoarde of them.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think you can ignore him for a short period of time. After that, the little life bar of the person you need to save shows up regardless.

[DarthPredamorph]

Well, my first playthrough I was down to about 56 or 58 hours left before the helicopter arrived and I had already been given like 8 or 9 scoops (excluding the main story cases) and lost all but 2 of them. Is he supposed to give you that ****ing many at the beginning? I wish they weren't timed like this. He could give me all the ones he wanted as long as they weren't timed. But I can't deal with 5 or 6 scoops all at once, it's ridiculous. They need to be more spread out, because it seems like he's popping them on me in multiples every few minutes or so.

[DarthPredamorph]

I'm about to stop playing this game. The friendly A.I. is so ****ing stupid, and I can't express that enough. It takes WAY longer than it should to escort these damn people. On top of that, they completely suck ass at climbing ****. I've got three people sitting here trying to climb onto the platform with the vent shaft that leads to the security room. Been sitting here for six minutes and they still haven't climbed it the whole time I've been writing this.

Capcom....your game needs a ****ing patch, for the lousy A.I. and the small ass in-game text.

[Smokis]

muhahahhahahaaaaaa!!!!!

What a crazy summer!!!

Anyway, I'm a little more settled and the 360 has emerged from the shadows (the box it came in) and is now hooked up and back online.

However, as much as I enjoy being back in front of my 360, I wish summers didn't have to end.

[DarthPredamorph]

Indeed. I need another 4 month break. :p

[Silent_Samurai]

HA ... school starts Thursday for me ... looking forward to it. 3D animation, 2D animation and texturing and lighting. ... The 360 will have to take a back seat to it for a little while. Oh well I still have the weekends.

[Oiler_Fan]

Hi guys..

Just bought a 360 today.

WOW! :eek:

I got PGR 3 bundled with it and have been playing that most of the day.

I also bought Dead Rising and will be playing that in a few minutes.

I've got NHL 07 on pre-order and i can't wait for that Forza 2. That looks great.

Did anyone pick up Test Drive yet? Any good?

[Silent_Samurai]

Welcome to the 360 club. It's a great club isn't it. :D

Just watch out for the insanely small text on Dead Rising, other than that enjoy!

[JaylisJayP]

Dead Rising was so much fun...I'll have to play that again this week.

[Serious Sam]

Congrats on the 360, Oiler!

Will you be joining us on Live?

[Jamesweighs]

*Waves at Smokis*

Welcome back.

[DarthPredamorph]

Welcome to the 360 club. It's a great club isn't it. :D

Just watch out for the insanely small text on Dead Rising, other than that enjoy!
That and the ******ed A.I. they've given the survivors throughout the game. :p

[idiot7]

Yea i like Dead Rising but IF they doa sequel it needs vast improvements

[TheRedOx]

*Waves at Smokis*

Welcome back.
Ditto....Welcome Back Smokis!!!

There's also a new UNO deck on the marketplace today.....a PGR3 deck??!!!
Too bad it's 100 points, I'll probably pass.
I guess there's a special card that enables you to see what one of your opponents is holding in his hand though...kind of a cool idea
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/09/06/Xbox-Live-Arcade-Uno-PGR3-Deck.aspx

[Jamesweighs]

Hey Ruutu, opinions on NHL 07 vs. 2k7?
The more I read and see the more I am bummed about the 2k series. So far, looks pretty much unchanged from last year.

[TheRedOx]

Hey Ruutu, opinions on NHL 07 vs. 2k7?
The more I read and see the more I am bummed about the 2k series. So far, looks pretty much unchanged from last year.
I'm definitely purchasing NHL '07 (already have in fact ;) ). Last year, on the original XBox, 2k6 was the better game by far. I was very disappointed in the port to the 360 though. I haven't seen anything for 2k7 yet that interests me in the slightest. Looks almost identical to last year's version with no new features that I've heard of yet. EA, on the other hand, has completely reinvented the game again and I think it's going to be awesome. The only thing that makes me nervous, as I've said before, is the stupid analog-stick thing. I think that's going to be really frustrating for me. I, unlike a lot of you, absolutely hated the Fight Night controls and this really sounds like it will be similar. If it gets too frustrating or doesn't deliver like I think it will, then I will look at 2k7.

[Jamesweighs]

The analog control scheme is going to be interesting to say the least.
If you practice enough with Fight Night, it becomes extremely intuitive, and hard to go back to using buttons.
So I'm sure you'll get to this point in NHL as well. If not, I'm betting that just like in FN, they'll have the option for a button config.

Should be a good game. EA is raising the bar a bit with the new 360 titles IMO.

[DarthPredamorph]

Yea i like Dead Rising but IF they doa sequel it needs vast improvements
Yep.

No focus on photography, no ****ing time limits (unless they are few and far between), no annoying ass transmissions (or at least tone it down A LOT), and the NPC (friendly) A.I. needs to be totally revamped.

Also, they need to add a target-locking system for the firearms when you aren't aiming down the sights.

[DarthPredamorph]

I got as far as getting Brad's medicine. After that it said the next case would be at 11:00am and it was past 11:00am, so the damn story ended. So I just said screw it and saved and quit.

Now onto my third freaking playthrough. :rolleyes:

How many times did most of you have to go back and replay the damn game before you actually beat it?

[Smbdyfnkillme]

There are 6 endings. Have fun:p

[DarthPredamorph]

I know, but I'm talking about beating the game in general though. Not a specific ending.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

I've given up until they release a patch for the text. Until then, I'm focusing on all my unfinished PS2 games (God of War, Shadow of Colossus, etc.)

[DarthPredamorph]

The text really doesn't bother me. I have the guide, so it tells me all the **** I need to know.

What's the main problem(s) for me is the ****ing time limits and the thousands of zombies in my way, along with Otis and his unbelievably annoying transmissions, and the ruddy A.I. Not to mention the boss (psychopath) fights can be a HUGE pain without a shotgun or an uzi.

I'm thinking of just ****ing around and level maxing and/or completing the first few objectives and then redoing it until I'm at level 50 with all the stats at max and with all the skills. That way the game will be much, much easier with all the upgrades.

This game really needs a difficulty setting. And I can't express that enough. I'm not one of those ****s that sat there and beat Resident Evil in under 5 hours on the hardest difficulty. I like to explore and take my ****ing time. :rolleyes:

[Smbdyfnkillme]

That's my main problem with Dead Rising and I think that's why the review scores were lower than people expected. The game forces you to rush. I missed all kinds of scoops because I was trying on clothes, taking funny pictures and testing out all of the weapons and just wandering around. After my game ended for about the fourth time, I gave up. I hate rushing.

I do understand that the rushing is a realistic part of this survival horror scenario, but it makes playing the game a chore.

[Jamesweighs]

That stuff you guys are saying is exactly the reason I've held out on it so far. I'll probably rent it sometime soon and get frustrated like everyone else.

[DarthPredamorph]

There needs to be a mode where you don't do all of this nonesense, from the getgo....not something you HAVE to unlock.

[DarthPredamorph]

The only fun thing about this game is killing Zombies. Everything else is either annoying or totally lame.

[JaylisJayP]

I got as far as getting Brad's medicine. After that it said the next case would be at 11:00am and it was past 11:00am, so the damn story ended. So I just said screw it and saved and quit.

Now onto my third freaking playthrough. :rolleyes:

How many times did most of you have to go back and replay the damn game before you actually beat it?

i beat it on the first try.

[JaylisJayP]

That's my main problem with Dead Rising and I think that's why the review scores were lower than people expected. The game forces you to rush. I missed all kinds of scoops because I was trying on clothes, taking funny pictures and testing out all of the weapons and just wandering around. After my game ended for about the fourth time, I gave up. I hate rushing.

I do understand that the rushing is a realistic part of this survival horror scenario, but it makes playing the game a chore.

Honestly, i like the time constraints in this game. I beat it the first time through following the story, and then i went back and ignored all that and did what I wanted. I would've gotten bored with the game much more quickly if there were no time constraints.

And, eventually, i get bored with every game. I'm sure everyone does.

[Silent_Samurai]

I've given up until they release a patch for the text. Until then, I'm focusing on all my unfinished PS2 games (God of War, Shadow of Colossus, etc.)

that's what I've done. I'm waiting for a patch to fix the text size. As for the time constraints on the scoops, I didn't play enough that day to really have to deal with that. I guess when I actually play it, then I'll see how I like it.

[Silent_Samurai]

I just emailed Capcom a question about the text size in Dead Risign.

here's the capcom contact email for FAQ's .... feel free to email them. megamail@capcom.com

[giantSFortyniners]

is there really a patch coming out for the text sizing?...i feel like im missing half the story cause i cant read what there saying.

[Silent_Samurai]

I hope so .. that's why I posted the email address for contacting Capcom ... because I emailed them a question on it earlier today. But I don't know for sure.

[Chugga]

I finally beat Saints Row and I can honestly say I have no idea what the hell just happened.

[MarvLevyshead]

I finally beat Saints Row and I can honestly say I have no idea what the hell just happened.

Story was that good?

:D

[Chugga]

The story was actually really good then all of a sudden when the last movie comes on it basically makes you go "what the hell did I just play?". Changes absolutely everything

[DarthPredamorph]

Honestly, i like the time constraints in this game. I beat it the first time through following the story, and then i went back and ignored all that and did what I wanted. I would've gotten bored with the game much more quickly if there were no time constraints.

And, eventually, i get bored with every game. I'm sure everyone does.
So you just followed the main story and ignored the other scoops? Maybe that's what I should do when I max out my level. Seeing as I won't ever be able to do all of the scoops and the story cases in the same playthrough.

[DarthPredamorph]

Just got the latest issue of OXM from a friend. About to play the F.E.A.R. demo. I've played a small portion of the PC version. Is this going to be similar to that?

Btw, I agree almost 100% with the Dead Rising review. I think it should've been just a GTA sandbox type deal with none of the stupid time constraints.

[Chugga]

I don't see why you're having so many problems with the time constraints. I've liked them since day one....without time constraints this game turns into a zombie killing fest that gets old IMMEDIATELY.

This game has 3 distinctively different playstyles and from the sounds of it you are trying to do all 3 of them on one run through which is impossible so don't even bother. You can either play for the story, for saving people, or for killing people. When you try combining them you half @$$ all 3 of them. But thats why this game has multiple endings, to reward you for taking the time out to try all 3 styles of play.

My first time through I saved like 25 or so people but made sure I got the A ending and did all of the story. My 2nd time through I went hunting for boss scoops. 3rd time through (which I'll likely do soon) will be straight up saving as many people as I can.

[Oiler_Fan]

Congrats on the 360, Oiler!

Will you be joining us on Live?

Definately.

my gamertag is metallion61

So far I've only been playing PGR 3 online. Fun game.

And for whoever it was that mentioned the small text in Dead Rising, you weren't joking! It's quite a strain on my eyes.

[avsfan21]

I quit reading the text and just used the arrows to point me in the right direciton if I wanted to go save those people.

[BeefEaster]

i just assume the text is telling to brutaly kill hundreds of zombies so that's what i do

[Oiler_Fan]

i just assume the text is telling to brutaly kill hundreds of zombies so that's what i do

This is what I've been assuming as well :D

What else could it be saying?

[BeefEaster]

i sure can't think of anything else

[DarthPredamorph]

I don't see why you're having so many problems with the time constraints. I've liked them since day one....without time constraints this game turns into a zombie killing fest that gets old IMMEDIATELY.

This game has 3 distinctively different playstyles and from the sounds of it you are trying to do all 3 of them on one run through which is impossible so don't even bother. You can either play for the story, for saving people, or for killing people. When you try combining them you half @$$ all 3 of them. But thats why this game has multiple endings, to reward you for taking the time out to try all 3 styles of play.

My first time through I saved like 25 or so people but made sure I got the A ending and did all of the story. My 2nd time through I went hunting for boss scoops. 3rd time through (which I'll likely do soon) will be straight up saving as many people as I can.
I don't like timed **** period. The only exception is the junk in Resident Evil, because.....well, it's actually fun. I don't like being rushed....and since this game is ALL about that....it's kind of pissing me off. Not to mention, the little annoyances are piling up up along with that. The demo was so much more fun. Why couldn't this game just have a nice simple little story without the harsh time constraints?

It shouldn't be too much to ask that the sequel get that treatment. One "Dead Rising" game is enough. Make the sequel something else. And put in better A.I. and a lock-on mode for the guns, or at least give us the options.

[idiot7]

I don't like timed **** period. The only exception is the junk in Resident Evil, because.....well, it's actually fun. I don't like being rushed....and since this game is ALL about that....it's kind of pissing me off. Not to mention, the little annoyances are piling up up along with that. The demo was so much more fun. Why couldn't this game just have a nice simple little story without the harsh time constraints?

It shouldn't be too much to ask that the sequel get that treatment. One "Dead Rising" game is enough. Make the sequel something else. And put in better A.I. and a lock-on mode for the guns, or at least give us the options.


Did you play through with a guide? Cause i'm having trouble even figuring out what i'm supposed to be doing at any one time.

[Jamesweighs]

NHL07 shootout demo is up on the marketplace.

[TheRedOx]

NHL07 shootout demo is up on the marketplace.
Awesome!!!!
I was just about to post this too:
http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/09/07/Demo-NHL-07.aspx
How is it? Anyone try it yet......I'm tempted to go home sick from work now....:D

[Smbdyfnkillme]

is there really a patch coming out for the text sizing?...i feel like im missing half the story cause i cant read what there saying.

I'm getting worried, they still haven't released an official statement about the patch. They may be hoping that we just get over it.

[AkumaX]

XBox Live name is EBT... make sure to say you're from Spawn.com so I know who's who

I'm not usually the one on, it's my fiance.... Sooner or later I'll be on more I bet, I need games I can play and enjoy...

Edit: Is there a way I can make my own Live account?

[Jamesweighs]

Ruutu- couldn't finish d/l'ing it before work this morning. Only got it about 54% and had to leave. Can't wait though.

[DarthPredamorph]

Did you play through with a guide? Cause i'm having trouble even figuring out what i'm supposed to be doing at any one time.
Yes. I've been following the guide as much as I can. The problem with the guide is....it never ****ing tells you the best way to deal with the hoardes of zombies. I mean, while I'm tring to get to a scoop there are tons and tons of those ****ing things in my way and it never suggests an easy way to deal with them....so I spend too much time and effort trying to get the zombies off my ass most of the time.

They should have either: a) screwed the time constraints, b) set the time in the game to match that of the one in the real world (i.e. a minute is a minute, not that "a minute in real life is 15 or 30 minutes in the game" crap), or c) made it to were the Zombies don't respawn so that you could literally spend 15 or 20 minutes clearing out an area for safe passage, though there would still be stragglers from time to time.

[Jamesweighs]

Darth, that reminds me of a walkthrough I read for an area in SC:CT. The guy was about as vague as you can get.

"the next room will have 3 bombs to find and disarm under a 1:30 ea, and there will be five soldiers with thermal vision hunting you down while you do so. Do this and go through the door at the end."

Wow, great tips dude.

[edschmoe]

Anybody else playing Battlefield online? Awesome freaking game.... I just can't get enough. Hit me up if you're playing.

Adam

[DarthPredamorph]

Anybody else playing Battlefield online? Awesome freaking game.... I just can't get enough. Hit me up if you're playing.

Adam
Loved it for the first few weeks. After that I kinda lost interest. You have to have good teamwork in order to play that game, otherwise (when you're just joining random games) you lose....a lot. I'd be willing to play with some of you guys if you're any good. I'm more of a support unit though, I'm not that much of a team leader. Just so you know. :o

[TrebleX]

NHL demo is awesome... the goalies made saves I've never seen done before in a video game! This is gonna kick ass!

[Silent_Samurai]

Darth, that reminds me of a walkthrough I read for an area in SC:CT. The guy was about as vague as you can get.

"the next room will have 3 bombs to find and disarm under a 1:30 ea, and there will be five soldiers with thermal vision hunting you down while you do so. Do this and go through the door at the end."

Wow, great tips dude.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I am playing Call of Cthulhu right now. And it's lame. It's such a one sided game that I keep having to run to a tips site just to get past some areas, and it happens more than enough. And of course I get the innevitable great tip: ... You just run down these stairs and do this and this." ... Oh ok, thanks. Wanna fill me in on what this and this is?

One IGN guide I looked at, the stupid guy who wrote it wastes more space making stupid Hoover Transvestite jokes than giving you any real game tips. Nice one.

I'd just quit playing that stupid game if I wasn't 55% through with it. And of course, to get the "real" ending you have to finish it in so many hours, have so many game saves and etc. etc. ... COME ON PEOPLE!!!!! ... If you wanna freak us out with survival horror games, let us take our time with them. Don't make us rush through them. Yeesh.

There are so many things wrong with this game. It's a wonder that Bethesda was allowed to put it out.

[DarthPredamorph]

Darth, that reminds me of a walkthrough I read for an area in SC:CT. The guy was about as vague as you can get.

"the next room will have 3 bombs to find and disarm under a 1:30 ea, and there will be five soldiers with thermal vision hunting you down while you do so. Do this and go through the door at the end."

Wow, great tips dude.
Well, I can kind of understand why they wouldn't help you out or give you any pointers in this situation. You know, to make us find our own ways of killing Zombies and what not. I just wish that you didn't have to put so much effort into killing the zombies sometimes. Technically, a potted plant to the face is enough to kill a zombie. They're decaying, so they're a lot weaker than a normal human being. Same with a sledgehammer, I don't see how in the hell they can survive those power swings. Almost every zombie gets back up from the first swing. It's like they think the only way to kill a zombie is with a sharp weapon/object. Look at the baseball bat....that **** takes WAY too long to kill a zombie with, and it shouldn't take but one good pop to the head to bust their skulls wide open. And I'm talking about a normal swing, not that charged up crap. That should be used for popping the heads of multiple zombies or something.

[edschmoe]

You have to have good teamwork in order to play that game, :o
If you get a couple of people working together in groups of 2 or 3 you can lay it on pretty good. I am not the best at it but my PPH is around 102, so I am not horrible either.

[DarthPredamorph]

I can't wait for F.E.A.R. The demo friggin rocked. Freaked me the hell out a couple times. :D

[Silent_Samurai]

Well, I can kind of understand why they wouldn't help you out or give you any pointers in this situation. You know, to make us find our own ways of killing Zombies and what not. I just wish that you didn't have to put so much effort into killing the zombies sometimes. Technically, a potted plant to the face is enough to kill a zombie. They're decaying, so they're a lot weaker than a normal human being. Same with a sledgehammer, I don't see how in the hell they can survive those power swings. Almost every zombie gets back up from the first swing. It's like they think the only way to kill a zombie is with a sharp weapon/object. Look at the baseball bat....that **** takes WAY too long to kill a zombie with, and it shouldn't take but one good pop to the head to bust their skulls wide open. And I'm talking about a normal swing, not that charged up crap. That should be used for popping the heads of multiple zombies or something.

In the area of the power of weapons I empathize with you. When I was playing it the day I got it ... I was bashing stuff in with a friggin trash can, and it would take two stinkin swipes. WHA?!?!

[DarthPredamorph]

If you get a couple of people working together in groups of 2 or 3 you can lay it on pretty good. I am not the best at it but my PPH is around 102, so I am not horrible either.
Last time I checked mine was like 80......not sure if that's good or bad....but oh well. :p

It's probably good (or at least somewhat good) considering I barely even played that game for three weeks.

[DarthPredamorph]

In the area of the power of weapons I empathize with you. When I was playing it the day I got it ... I was bashing stuff in with a friggin trash can, and it would take two stinkin swipes. WHA?!?!
Hehehe...can you believe that you can't swing the golf clubs or hockey sticks? I was downright upset when I found that out. :eek:

I mean, they should have made it to where you could switch between shooting pucks/golf balls and just swinging the weapon. I'd be hella bustin' heads with the golf club. :D

[Silent_Samurai]

now that's crazy.

[DarthPredamorph]

I like taking the exposive gas tanks and running up to *really* large groups of zombies, throwing it up in the air (although you have to arrange it so that the shotgun is the weapon it switches to when thrown), and then blowing the **** up as it's about to land in the middle of them. I literally went around leisure park doing nothing but that a few times. :D

[TrebleX]

I can't wait for F.E.A.R. The demo friggin rocked. Freaked me the hell out a couple times. :D

Is the demo with the mag?

[AkumaX]

no one answered me -__-

[Jamesweighs]

Akuma, yeah I think so. Don't know how to though, maybe you can only have one account for the house, but use a different gamer profile. I know you can have multiple of those.

[Jamesweighs]

NHL 2K7 is up, now talk about a demo. Regardless of whose game is going to be better, EA could mimic this and give us more in their demos.
You get a ton of time in the 2K one. All of EA's sports ones are so short, football, etc- "Here's your 8 plays". I understand it's just to get a taste, but it's nice to delve into some real gameplay. And 2K lets you choose a few different teams. Nice.

Anyway, enough of that. 2K comments- Way better graphics than I expected (or feared). Not EA quality, but much better than last year. Crowd still looks goofy. One of the new features is an orchestra score that ebbs and flows with the gameplay. So if you like hockey movies, there you go. I am sure you can turn that off. Menu's have changed slightly, look better, easier to read and use IMO.
Now- gameplay. Still solid. Pretty much unchanged. At least in my quick playthrough this morning. They took out the lit circle for your speed burst. You can see your player doing it, but the old way let you know without a doubt that you were using it and charging up a move.
But all in all, it's a solid 2K game.

I think I might be leaning toward the EA one, just to try out the analog control. Took some getting used to, but now I can at least deke and shoot when I want in the shootout demo (for the most part). I worry about the inconsistencies and sloppy thumbs when things get tense, but I'm sure you get used to it. And I'm really impressed by the animations and graphics. Things are shiny now that weren't before :D .

[The Isomotion31]

I just thought I would share as it is a milestone. I have been playing Madden 07 and trying to get used to the transition from PS2 to the 360. I use the Giants and this dude online has been beating me for the past 2 weeks using the Panthers. Last night, I finally got over a hump and beat him at Carolina by a field goal. No turnovers on my part and threw for 2 tds. Ahhhhh, it feels good to be back. Now I must marvel in all my Madden nerd glory! LOL.

[Silent_Samurai]

no one answered me -__-

You can have two accounts on one xbox ... but you're going to pay for two accounts. I don't think you can set up multiple names on one Live account. I'm pretty sure it's a pay the yearly 50 fee for each tag name. But you can have more than one name stored on your xbox.

[DarthPredamorph]

Is the demo with the mag?
Yep.

I'm not a subscriber though, so I had to get it from a friend who usually dumps his demo discs and mags after a couple weeks. I didn't feel like slapping down a ten for the mag at retail just to play the F.E.A.R. demo......yeah, I'm a cheap bastard. :o :p

[DarthPredamorph]

Well, on my third playthrough I finally got an ending. It was the F one. >_<

*SPOILER WARNING*

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I tried and tried and tried to collect all the bombs in the maintenance tunnels but with Carlito on my house the whole time (well, at least after the bike breaks) it's pretty damn hard. And the guide doesn't really have any good suggestions either.

After redoing it four or fives times with practically the same results, I said "**** it." Went around saving people until the time ran out. Managed to escort three groups of people. Got to the security room with the last group a few minutes before the bomb went off. It's disappointing that disposing of the bombs is so damn hard.

Heh, I should probably look on the brightside, at least I got an ending. Still kind of sucks though. :o

All in all, at least I managed to get from lvl 22 to 29 by escorting all of those survivors. :D

[Chugga]

When I did that mission my first "full" playthrough I think I was level 38....I didn't bring any weapons I had a full inventory of orange juice and was able to beat it on my 2nd try. (first try I didn't bring any OJ and well that didn't go well). It's actually not that bad of a mission you just gotta use your Tecmo Superbowl instincts. Swerving back and forth and occassion tapping in a direction twice (to make the guy dive) Carlito should hardly ever hit you. And if he does you should have 10 OJ's on hand. Also make sure you are going in the right order to get the bombs...DO NOT go in the order they tell you to. Your car will break and it will leave you having to leg out the last 2 areas. Theres a way to do the mission where you should only have to sprint for 1 bomb.

[DarthPredamorph]

Oh. Yeah...my bike died on me after the first two bombs. :(

[DarthPredamorph]

Btw, that Sean guy (the nutcase in the movie theater) is freaking hard! :eek:

I'm sitting there running around that mannequin while trying to shoot him with the shotgun and he dodges it half the time and his attacks hurt and he's fast as hell. It's one of the hardest boss fights in the game, along with the Gunstore owner...that one's pretty damn hard sometimes.

Killing him is awesome though...because that sword he carries is the ****! :D

[gr8one2386]

If it doesn't make you feel like you're cheating, get the Megaman blaster. Three shots and Carlito is no longer an issue on the bomb mission.

[avsfan21]

Btw, that Sean guy (the nutcase in the movie theater) is freaking hard! :eek:

I'm sitting there running around that mannequin while trying to shoot him with the shotgun and he dodges it half the time and his attacks hurt and he's fast as hell. It's one of the hardest boss fights in the game, along with the Gunstore owner...that one's pretty damn hard sometimes.

Killing him is awesome though...because that sword he carries is the ****! :D

I killed him carrying around a few katanas and OJ. Run around when he goes for his sliding sword attack dodge it, then get about two hits with your katana and run like hell, because he comes back swinging.

[DarthPredamorph]

Well, I had three shotguns on me, three good health items, and two sharp weapons. One was a sickle and the other was an axe. I figured I should just use the shotguns though. Good thing I had 'em too, the one guy helped a lot on the way back because I gave him my "almost empty" shotty. I just used melee weapons and a few extra goodies I found along the way. :D

[DarthPredamorph]

If it doesn't make you feel like you're cheating, get the Megaman blaster. Three shots and Carlito is no longer an issue on the bomb mission.
That's what I'm going to try and get the next time I load it up. What do I have to do exactly? Just try and get the Zombie Genocider achievement?

Can I do it as soon as the game starts and ignore the first case and then just let the game's story completely shut down? Also, HOW exactly do I go about getting it? What are the best methods to keep racking up the kills? I know there's the maintenance tunnel...but the vehicles died after a while and what if I get stuck? I'll need a key to get back up to the mall....where is it anyway? :confused:

[AstroDave]

Hey guys Im finally online!! Gamertag is Astrosteel!

[gr8one2386]

That's what I'm going to try and get the next time I load it up. What do I have to do exactly? Just try and get the Zombie Genocider achievement?

Can I do it as soon as the game starts and ignore the first case and then just let the game's story completely shut down? Also, HOW exactly do I go about getting it? What are the best methods to keep racking up the kills? I know there's the maintenance tunnel...but the vehicles died after a while and what if I get stuck? I'll need a key to get back up to the mall....where is it anyway? :confused:

As far as I know, yes, you can just ignore the story and go right to the maintenance tunnel. The best way to do it is to get the car outside the tunnel and turn left when you get into the tunnel. If you follow that pathway you'll dead-end in a room stuffed full of zombies. The two most important things in this room are the truck that is backed into the spot (not the one facing the wall) and the double doors opposite the truck. The truck lasts much longer than the car, so you can just keep driving down the road that leads out of that room and then bcking up right back into the room. The zombies respawn once they leave your sight, so you'll keep running over more everytime you back up. Once your truck dies, you'll want to go through the double doors. If you need health or weapons, there are two cleavers and three jugs of milk in this room. Be careful though, there are also zombies in this room. After you've got what you need, come back out. This causes the truck to respawn, and you can just repeat the process over again until you've killed enough zombies.

[Oiler_Fan]

NHL 2K7 is up, now talk about a demo. Regardless of whose game is going to be better, EA could mimic this and give us more in their demos.
You get a ton of time in the 2K one. All of EA's sports ones are so short, football, etc- "Here's your 8 plays". I understand it's just to get a taste, but it's nice to delve into some real gameplay. And 2K lets you choose a few different teams. Nice.

.

Agreed. It was nice to be able to play a whole period to get a feel for things. The 2K7 game feels solid and the graphics are pretty good. EA still is better in the graphics area.

After playing both demos now I'm really torn between the 2 games. I'll prrobably end up buying both games. The slight edge right now goes to EA but the controls have me a bit concerned. I'm wondering if there will be an option to map the controls to 4 buttons for those that might not like the analog.

Either way I'm excited to play hockey again. :D

[Serious Sam]

Splurged on an Xbox 1 game yesterday, instantly regretted it... Nascar 07 plays great, but it's got the most muddy graphics I've ever seen in an EA Sports title. They truly blow. I felt like I was playing a PS1 game. Knew I should have waited for a 360 version, whenever that happens.

Gonna take it for a few more laps, trading it in on Tuesday for Lego Star Wars 2.

[DarthPredamorph]

Do the attack upgrades in Dead Rising affect the power of the guns during boss fights? I'm assuming they don't, but I'm just curious.

[DarthPredamorph]

Yay! I got the B ending. ^_^ :p

Anyone know how to get the Strike! achievement? You know, the one where you send ten zombies flying with bowling balls? I've taken five of those things to the maintenance tunnels on several occasions but I never managed to get anywhere.

That's probably one of the only ones I've consciously tried to get...the rest kind of fell into place. >_<

[avsfan21]

Just do it near where the truck is in the maintenace tunnels and it should work if you throw it right I guess. That is where I did it.

[DarthPredamorph]

Do you have to decapitate them or something?

[avsfan21]

I think it just you have to throw the ball and knock over 10 zombies, it might be kill though.

[wrek537emc]

i think u might have to get your THROW meter all the way up so the bowling ball does the MOST damage.

and if you hold down the attack button a long time with the bowling ball in hand you charge up your throw so that might be a factor as well.

I tried to do the zombie genocider.. but I don't have the patience.

as for the religious guy.. i just used a sledgehammer. .ran up on the stage.. he followed me.. and then he's sort of stuck so he cant move too far left and right. one hard swing with the sledgehammer dazes him and knocks him down... so then u can just keep smashing him until he finally dies... i think that's the easiest way to kill him... it's just hard to get that first initial hit. .cuz he's pretty quick.

[The Isomotion31]

Dang just lost 2 games in a row in my Madden franchise. Anyone know when the roster updates will occur and where to get them? Would you just go to the Xbox live marketplace? Also, when are they releasing the different uniforms so you can use the throwbacks or whatever. Finally, has anyone heard if they are planning to fix the fatigue problem?

[meatgoat]

Dang just lost 2 games in a row in my Madden franchise. Anyone know when the roster updates will occur and where to get them? Would you just go to the Xbox live marketplace? Also, when are they releasing the different uniforms so you can use the throwbacks or whatever. Finally, has anyone heard if they are planning to fix the fatigue problem?

I was wondering the same things. Except the the throwbacks I suppose I'll be saving money there since Pittsburgh doesn't wear any.

On a related note. I'm finally getting the hang of running the ball. I was barely getting 50 yards at first. Lately I seem to be breaking one long run a game and racking up some decent totals.

[Silent_Samurai]

Woo Hoo!! ... #14 on Galaga leaderboards :D

[edschmoe]

Anybody got Test Drive? If so what do you think of it so far?

[DarthPredamorph]

Woo Hoo!! ... #14 on Galaga leaderboards :D
You sir, are a Galaga maniac. ;) :p

[Oiler_Fan]

Anybody got Test Drive? If so what do you think of it so far?

I'd like to know that myself.

Anyone?

[NCStateWolfpack33]

I have a dumb question about Madden...how in the world do you taunt? and can you stop on the goal line and fall into the endzone like Chad Johnson does on the commercial...how do you do it? thanks

[The Isomotion31]

You press dive. If no one is too close to you just press dive and the player should either do a flip or that c.johnson thing. Other than that you can press b to high step. Speaking of which so far I have seen:

Larry Johnson through the diamond up at me
C. Johnson river danced on me
Clinton Portis did cartwheels

[Silent_Samurai]

You sir, are a Galaga maniac. ;) :p


thank you :D

[Jamesweighs]

EGM reviewed the two hockey games. Blasted the 2K one.
Funny quote about them- something like "What happened in this dog marries cat world where EA is actually 'simmier' than the 2K series".

They loved the new control scheme. Nothing's changed /no innovation with the 2K version.

NHL07- 8.0, 7.5, 8.0
NHL2K7- 6.0, 6.5, 6.0

[SpawnSC]

I just got oblivion yesterday ... its way better then what I thought it would be! now I got a new addiction :P

I started buying my games on ebay since they are cheaper. I got oblivion for $22 on ebay, excellent condition. Just like the plastic was taken off and thats it.

Gamestop is ******ed $60 for new $55 for used..... pffffftt!!!

[DaGoalie60]

I'm hooked on Oblivion...That game is my crack :D I also have Xbox Live...GT is DaGoalie60 add me if you wanna game...I'll have NHL 07 Thursday...That's the WHOLE reason I sprung to buy a 360 to start with xD

[DaGoalie60]

I just got oblivion yesterday ... its way better then what I thought it would be! now I got a new addiction :P

I started buying my games on ebay since they are cheaper. I got oblivion for $22 on ebay, excellent condition. Just like the plastic was taken off and thats it.

Gamestop is ******ed $60 for new $55 for used..... pffffftt!!!

LOL! I know right...That game is scary addictive :p What if it were online @_@...I would never buy a new game I think lol

[JaylisJayP]

I just got oblivion yesterday ... its way better then what I thought it would be! now I got a new addiction :P

I started buying my games on ebay since they are cheaper. I got oblivion for $22 on ebay, excellent condition. Just like the plastic was taken off and thats it.

Gamestop is ******ed $60 for new $55 for used..... pffffftt!!!

If you don't want to wait for shipping and you happen to have a Rhino games near you, their used games are cheaper than Gamestop or EB. Not by a ton, but enough to shop there instead.

[DaGoalie60]

If you don't want to wait for shipping and you happen to have a Rhino games near you, their used games are cheaper than Gamestop or EB. Not by a ton, but enough to shop there instead.
Just to let you know...EB is now Gamestop :o Also what's Rhino games?

[Jamesweighs]

Alright. That's it. I gotta vent about Madden. First off, I love the game, it's really the most fun I've had playing a football game, and I've played a lot of them.

But in the SS mode, the time management is KILLING me. I cannot believe the play testers for EA didn't find this and have them fix it. I'm a HB, so it's up to the QB to hike the frickin' ball in a timely fashion.

Ok, so I'm down 7 points, it's about 2 min before halftime and were driving down the field. First off, the coach keeps calling running plays, you'd think you'd pass and get a hurry-up offense going, but I can deal with that. What kills me is that we are down around the 14 yeard line, and the damn QB keeps letting about 25-30 sec off the clock before hiking the ball every damn play. So the time runs out, not even a FG.

And this happens at the end of the game too. I know you can call TOs, and I do. And I hope to god they call a pass play where I'm not in, so then I can take control of the QB and can audible or hurry up. But if I'm in as a HB, they just let the time fritter away. Real real lame. Drives me nuts.

But other than that, still loving SS mode.

[TrebleX]

NHL todaaaaaaaaay MMMMM!

Read the review on IGN.com!

[DaGoalie60]

Sorry my friend...No NHL till Thursday the 14th ;_;

[Jamesweighs]

Well, it's shipping today here, and on the shelves tomorrow.

[JaylisJayP]

Just to let you know...EB is now Gamestop :o Also what's Rhino games?

I know, I was just mentioning that they're still two different stores, although I'm aware it's the same owner and same prices.

Rhino games is an offshoot of blockbuster, they're like a Gamestop. I think they still sell older systems and stuff too like SNES and Genesis.

[DaGoalie60]

Really...Sweet i'll have to check that out. Thanks

[NCStateWolfpack33]

Alright. That's it. I gotta vent about Madden. First off, I love the game, it's really the most fun I've had playing a football game, and I've played a lot of them.

But in the SS mode, the time management is KILLING me. I cannot believe the play testers for EA didn't find this and have them fix it. I'm a HB, so it's up to the QB to hike the frickin' ball in a timely fashion.

Ok, so I'm down 7 points, it's about 2 min before halftime and were driving down the field. First off, the coach keeps calling running plays, you'd think you'd pass and get a hurry-up offense going, but I can deal with that. What kills me is that we are down around the 14 yeard line, and the damn QB keeps letting about 25-30 sec off the clock before hiking the ball every damn play. So the time runs out, not even a FG.

And this happens at the end of the game too. I know you can call TOs, and I do. And I hope to god they call a pass play where I'm not in, so then I can take control of the QB and can audible or hurry up. But if I'm in as a HB, they just let the time fritter away. Real real lame. Drives me nuts.

But other than that, still loving SS mode.

I feel ur pain....my SS mode sucks. I'm a HB and got drafted by the Colts. In my first game i rushed 5 times for 104 yds and 3 TDs...and ran the ball 4 times combined in the next 3 games...and Peyton takes an hour and 40 mins to snap the ball b/c of the "audible" crap...im going to demand a trade

[The Isomotion31]

^^In mine I got drafted by the vikings at qb..Boy its difficult I got blind sided sacked like twice once for a fumble.

I'm sticking to franchise mode and broke a 3 game skid. finally.

[Jamesweighs]

I've heard the QB position is tough to get used to. You get blindsided as a HB on sweeps sometimes.

Dunno if this actually worked if it was a result of the random play calling, but in my last few games, they've decided to pass over 30 times, just running me about 4 times. But in the last game, I started pressing the LB button (call for the ball) right after the play when they go back to the huddle. I know it's meant for passing situations, but I decided to try it, and I was surprised to see they called a running play to me over 10 times in a row. So maybe it does work.

I got picked up by the Steelers. Doing well so far. Some games average, others, busting a few big ones.

I haven't even started on the Franchise mode yet.

[The Isomotion31]

^^nice...the thing that sucks is I am in the same division as the BEARS and their D....Not to mention I'm a rookie. LOL. got to love Brian Urlacher showing blitz.

[Jamesweighs]

Bet you're calling a lot of audibles...

[The Isomotion31]

I gathered from another board that there is an updated rosters already out. Where do I go to check this? I am in the marketplace and nothing.

i checked on the news section of my madden and it said the rosters were updated for sept. 7th. Does this mean i have to play an actualy live game in order to dl it?

[The Isomotion31]

Bet you're calling a lot of audibles...


no kidding. lol.

[Silent_Samurai]

I feel ur pain....my SS mode sucks. I'm a HB and got drafted by the Colts. In my first game i rushed 5 times for 104 yds and 3 TDs...and ran the ball 4 times combined in the next 3 games...and Peyton takes an hour and 40 mins to snap the ball b/c of the "audible" crap...im going to demand a trade

Guys I'm so sorry the Silent Samurai mode in Madden sucks ... but honestly I had nothing to do with it and I never gave it my seal of approval. :o

[NCStateWolfpack33]

Guys I'm so sorry the Silent Samurai mode in Madden sucks ... but honestly I had nothing to do with it and I never gave it my seal of approval. :o
It's all ur fault!!! ;)

[Silent_Samurai]

*barricades door and waits for lynching*