High Definition Discussion Thread - Blu-Ray, HDTV, etc...

[Hanky Panky]

If you look closely at that visual...you'll see a sailboat with dolphins swinging nearby.

[MofoEd]

Yes... do that.

And in 6 months your plasma will look like this.

http://www.plasmasaver.com/images/tv-43.png

And warranty won't cover repair or replacement.
You have a point, even though most plasma screens today have some kind of burn in protection, they are not 100%, if watching 4:3 constantly then you will eventually run into burn-in problems with Plasma screen.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Any intrest in these movies

HD-DVD Movies

Van Helsing
The Thing
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Happy Feet
Smallville S5
The Hitcher

Blu-Ray Movies

First Blood
Basic Instinct
Goodfellas
The Pursuit of Happyness
Spiderman 3 exclusive disk




Im gonna add a few more to this list

[JaylisJayP]

johnnyknoxsvill....if you have beerfest for either format, I'm interested in that one.

[GPWYANKEE]

Guys-Need some help.Need to get a new receiver and im looking for the best bang for the buck.Ive got a high end Integra Onkyo now but its to old to decode the new HD Audio and it doesnt have HTML connections.Any input would be great.

[GPWYANKEE]

johnnyknoxsvill....if you have beerfest for either format, I'm interested in that one.


Beerfest:eek: :eek: Not sure thats one that will show off the format but it is funnier then hell.

[grif32]

Guys-Need some help.Need to get a new receiver and im looking for the best bang for the buck.Ive got a high end Integra Onkyo now but its to old to decode the new HD Audio and it doesnt have HTML connections.Any input would be great.

Garth it all depends on how much you want to spend. Onkyo makes some really nice Recievers for under $600.00 that will work

Chris

[GPWYANKEE]

Garth it all depends on how much you want to spend. Onkyo makes some really nice Recievers for under $600.00 that will work

Chris


The biggest thing seems to be the decoding ability.Some of the receivers out there dont upconvert the signal-However it comes in is how it goes out.Just dont want to have a under powered receiver when im use to having the mack daddy.

[MofoEd]

I have the new Onkyo SR605, which retails for $499, but got it for much less at J&R preorder ($399, had to call to get that price), I have it it for a month and love it.For this receiver it only upcoverts to 720P when using anything other than a HDMI cable. Only thing, like GPWYNKEE said, many receivers don't really upconvert (unless you're willing to fork over the cash, usually close to $800+). Not only that, HD/Blu Ray players today don't truly have TrueHD audio spec fully implemented as of yet.

[grif32]

The biggest thing seems to be the decoding ability.Some of the receivers out there dont upconvert the signal-However it comes in is how it goes out.Just dont want to have a under powered receiver when im use to having the mack daddy.

Well my whole Onkyo 7.1 surround sound system cost me $399.00 and it works perfect. It doesnt have HDMI switching but I dont need it.

You can spend some serious coin but really dont need to unless you have a dedicated HT room.

Chris

[civictyperboy]

My STRDA3200ES from sony converts everything to a 480p through HDMI and I have my HDMI 1080p passthrough, with HDMI switching (I should have gotten the 5200ES) but I do not have TrueHD or any of the new sound codecs on it, however I don't think I would be able to tell the difference...unless you think you will be able to tell the difference in the audio codecs it wouldn't really be worth it to change your audio system around

[grif32]

Garth here are a few that would work

TX-SR505 ($380, now available)
7.1 A/V receiver, 75 watts per channel
2 HDMI inputs (video passthrough only; audio requires separate connection)
Audyssey 2EQ auto speaker calibration


TX-SR575 ($480, now available)
7.1 A/V receiver, 80 watts per channel
2 HDMI inputs (video pass-through only; audio requires separate connection)
Component video conversion (composite/S-video converted to component output)
Audyssey 2EQ auto speaker calibration
XM- and Sirius-ready


TX-SR605 ($600, May 2007)
7.1 A/V receiver, 90 watts per channel
2 HDMI 1.3a inputs, with HDMI conversion of analog video
Onboard decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio
Faroudja DCDi video processing
Audyssey 2EQ auto speaker calibration
XM- and Sirius-ready

TX-SR705 ($900, July 2007)
7.1 A/V receiver, 100 watts per channel
3 HDMI 1.3a inputs, with HDMI upconversion
Onboard decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio
Faroudja DCDi video processing
THX Select2 Certified
Audyssey MultEQ auto speaker calibration
XM- and Sirius-ready
Multiroom functionality for two zones

TX-SR805 ($1,100, May 2007)
7.1 A/V receiver, 130 watts per channel
3 HDMI 1.3a inputs, with HDMI upconversion
Onboard decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio
Faroudja DCDi video processing
THX Select2 Certified
Audyssey MultEQ auto speaker calibration
XM- and Sirius-ready
Multiroom functionality for three zones

TX-SR875 ($1,700, June 2007)
7.1 A/V receiver, 140 watts per channel
4 HDMI 1.3a inputs, with HDMI upconversion to 1080p
Onboard decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio
HQV Reon-VX Video processing
THX Ultra2 Certified
Audyssey MultEQ auto speaker calibration
XM- and Sirius-ready
Multiroom functionality for three zones

TX-NR905 ($2,100, August 2007)
7.1 A/V receiver, 140 watts per channel
4 HDMI 1.3a inputs, with HDMI upconversion to 1080p
Onboard decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio
HQV Reon-VX Video processing
THX Ultra2 Certified
Audyssey MultEQ auto speaker calibration
XM- and Sirius-ready
Multiroom functionality for three zones
Networking capabilities for Internet radio and WMA files
HD Radio
USB input for MP3 players


The whole lineup is impressive, but the sweet spot--especially for those on a reasonable budget--definitely looks to be the TX-SR705 and TX-SR605.

[GPWYANKEE]

Im definately getting a receiver with HDMI upconverting-From what i understand you plug everything into the Receiver and run one HDMI cable to the TV and your done.

[civictyperboy]

I wish I could take a picture of it but yeah 1 HDMI cable going to be TV, which is a pretty big reason why I bought my receiver, now looking at those Onkyo receivers I may be regretting my purchase, however since I work for Sony it really doesn't matter, the next line of ES receivers should have all those fun new codecs so I am not sweating anything, plus they have a high resell value

[GPWYANKEE]

The SR705 looks sweet for sure

[grif32]

The SR705 looks sweet for sure

If i had the cash that the one I would get.

Doesnt come out until next month tho

[PrimeBane]

Just my opinion, but if your tv upconverts (and all HDtvs do) and you HD DVD or BD player upconverts, what would be the point of a receiver that does it as well?

[GPWYANKEE]

TX SR805 might be the baby.Can get it thru Amazon half way decent.

[MofoEd]

Just my opinion, but if your tv upconverts (and all HDtvs do) and you HD DVD or BD player upconverts, what would be the point of a receiver that does it as well?
You sure all HDtv's upconverts? Never heard that they do.

[GPWYANKEE]

Most Hd Tvs just pass the signal along.

[PrimeBane]

Any fixed pixel panel does (plasma, lcd, dlp)... how else would it fill the screen with picture if you ran a 480i signal into a 720p tv?

Just like other sources, upconversion quality varies.

[GPWYANKEE]

Any fixed pixel panel does (plasma, lcd, dlp)... how else would it fill the screen with picture if you ran a 480i signal into a 720p tv?

Just like other sources, upconversion quality varies.


That makes sense-Never thought of it that way before:o

[MofoEd]

I honestly don't think it works that way, will have to ask my techie buddies.My understanding is that HDtv's will just display resolution depending on the source. My LCDtv usually tells me the source resolution, for ex. SD channels will read out as 480p, HD channels 1080i. I will only get upconversion when I connect the Cablebox to my reciever and my SD channels get bumped up to 720p according to my LCDtv (My 1080i HD chennels remain as is). The LCDtv does no upconversion, nor have I heard any HDtv that does. It is the source device that upcovert the signal if it is capable of doing so (DVD, cablebox, A/V receiver, etc.)
But will have to ask to make sure :)

[supertim]

I went to BN.com and chose 4 titles that qualified for the deal; The Jerk, Talladega Nights (unrated), Children of Men, and Breach. Getting The Jerk for Free, my total was $107.02 ($115.85 w/tax)

I went over to amazon.com and chose the same 4 movies; the total is $102.80 - before the 10% off high def DVD promo, which knocked my total down to $92.52 DLVD.

I know it was buy 2 get 1 free on BN, but I still chose 4 cheaper on amazon. I know amazon is hard to beat, but why bother with BN when you can get the same amount of dvd's for less money - even without the extra 10%?

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Im gonna add a few more to this list

All titles are $16 DLVD expect Smallville which is $35 DLVD and the Spiderman Exclusive disk which is $7 DLVD

Mummy - PrimeBane
Mummy Returns - PrimeBane
Casino
Smallville S5
Backdraft
Alpha Dog
Bourne Supremacy
The Frightners
Van Helsing - PrimeBane
The Thing
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Happy Feet
The Hitcher
First Blood
Basic Instinct
Goodfellas
The Pursuit of Happyness
Stranger then Fiction
Spiderman 3 Exclusive disk

[MPCanes]

Oh man, the SR605 looks hella sweet for my broke ass. I'm going to have to save up for those for when I move into my new place in October.

[MofoEd]

Oh man, the SR605 looks hella sweet for my broke ass. I'm going to have to save up for those for when I move into my new place in October.
I became a broke ass after buying the SR605 and everything else with it :D, but I am happy broke ass, and well worth the empty wallet for now.

[MPCanes]

Any fixed pixel panel does (plasma, lcd, dlp)... how else would it fill the screen with picture if you ran a 480i signal into a 720p tv?

Just like other sources, upconversion quality varies.

No it doesn't Primebane - I've got a 720p/1080i DLP, and it will output whatever the source material is in that format.

It clicks over to 720p when it's HD, but most of the cable stations coming in are 480i.

[PrimeBane]

No sir... Your tv will say the signal is 480i, 720p or 1080i, but it will take that signal and upconvert or downconvert it. (depending on the native res and the signal).

DLP, LCD and Plasma are all fixed pixel units.
http://www.cir-engineering.com/services_02.php

[_jmills_]

Can someone put up a picture between an HD dvd and a regular dvd? Also is it worth it to just buy a HD dvd player to transfer the picture quality of regular dvd's? I just cant see myself rebuying all my dvd's.

[PrimeBane]

This is a poor representation, but I think it illustrates it well enough.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=483204

Like the original poster says, it looks WAY better in person.

With the price of HD DVD players hitting all time lows, I'd suggest buying the Toshiba A2 the next time it goes on sale (it's been as low at $199 US). It does as good a job as an Oppo upconverting DVD player and you get the benefit of being able to play HD DVDs.

Or if you're warry of buying HD DVD, you could spend a couple hundred more and buy the Sony BDP-S300. I've heard very good things about it's upconverting capabilities and you can play Blu-ray movies.

Or you could just buy and Oppo 981, the best upconverting DVD player in it's price range.

[PrimeBane]

Here's an even better example. Mouse over the images to see the HD version.

http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html

Man I want LOTR to come out for Xmas :D

[JaylisJayP]

Interesting little piece of positive HD DVD news today....

Courtesy of DailyTech.com, sales of Microsoft's Xbox 360 HD-DVD stand-alone player have reached a total of 155,000 since its launch in the United States, and it represents the 360's "biggest-selling accessory" ever sold for the console.

Even though there is more Blu-ray hardware in the hands of consumers, the HD DVD side averages more movies sold per machine. According to CNET, an average of one disc per Blu-ray machine is sold, compared to four discs per HD DVD machine.

[PrimeBane]

hmmm... used PS3 20 GB, 2 controllers, Resistance for $400 cdn... to pull the trigger or not...

[_jmills_]

Thanks for the comparisons. I'm pretty sure that one format whether Blu ray or HD will be the one and only HD dvd ? Correct? So I'm pretty sure for now at least just buying an HD dvd player is the best move.

[JaylisJayP]

I went to BN.com and chose 4 titles that qualified for the deal; The Jerk, Talladega Nights (unrated), Children of Men, and Breach. Getting The Jerk for Free, my total was $107.02 ($115.85 w/tax)

I went over to amazon.com and chose the same 4 movies; the total is $102.80 - before the 10% off high def DVD promo, which knocked my total down to $92.52 DLVD.

I know it was buy 2 get 1 free on BN, but I still chose 4 cheaper on amazon. I know amazon is hard to beat, but why bother with BN when you can get the same amount of dvd's for less money - even without the extra 10%?


Well...the fourth one isn't free also...so it's really only worth it if you buy 3...furthermore it's only worth it if you buy the ones they marked down to 23 bucks or so....All the titles you mentioned are much more expensive at BN so it doesn't pay. I think avsforums' thread about it lists which movies are the cheapest for each format that make the deal worthwhile.

I got 3 for 48 dlvd. Even with Amazon 10% it would've cost about $60 dlvd for the same titles...and BN had better shipping.

[PrimeBane]

Thanks for the comparisons. I'm pretty sure that one format whether Blu ray or HD will be the one and only HD dvd ? Correct? So I'm pretty sure for now at least just buying an HD dvd player is the best move.

Most people are predicting that both formats will survive... but who knows. Currently Blu-ray has a leg up on HD DVD.

[captain_narcolepsy]

for anyone interested, wal-mart has black snake moan for $25 on hd-dvd. i think the blu ray was the same price. if you haven't seen it, the movie itself is excellent, and the hddvddigest reviewer gave it one of the best transfer ratings on the site. i watched the scene where sam jackson sings the "black snake moan" song (one of my favorite scenes in a movie ever) and it really looks incredible. i also got my fear and loathing and constantine in the mail today. i'm so broke.

[JaylisJayP]

for anyone interested, wal-mart has black snake moan for $25 on hd-dvd. i think the blu ray was the same price. if you haven't seen it, the movie itself is excellent, and the hddvddigest reviewer gave it one of the best transfer ratings on the site. i watched the scene where sam jackson sings the "black snake moan" song (one of my favorite scenes in a movie ever) and it really looks incredible. i also got my fear and loathing and constantine in the mail today. i'm so broke.

is this just a straight drama? is there any action in it?

[WingNut 25]

Black Snake Moan looked like the most boring movie of all time based on the trailer.

[oaktown2000]

Its about a nympho....how can you not like a movie about a nympho ;)

[someguy6000]

Its about a nympho....how can you not like a movie about a nympho ;)
if i would have known that....

[grif32]

I am almost positive all HDTV's have a built in scaler so PB is correct.

Chris

[someguy6000]

hmmm... used PS3 20 GB, 2 controllers, Resistance for $400 cdn... to pull the trigger or not...
get the 60GB from what i hear the 20 GB is missing features not sure what and you can't upgrade the system.

[GPWYANKEE]

get the 60GB from what i hear the 20 GB is missing features not sure what and you can't upgrade the system.


I dont even think they sell the 20 GB anymore do they??Id heard Sony decided to just market the 60 GB.

[GPWYANKEE]

The SR705 looks sweet for sure


Well Gents-Just ponyed up and bought this baby.

Grif-When i see you next im kicking you right in the nuts:eek:

[UK_DaNnY]

hi all,

today got my Warriors HD, Unleashed HD and Cruel Intentions Blu-ray. On monday Phone Booth Blu ray came and my dad's be-lated fathers day present can, THe Prestige on HD.

[JaylisJayP]

hi all,

today got my Warriors HD, Unleashed HD and Cruel Intentions Blu-ray. On monday Phone Booth Blu ray came and my dad's be-lated fathers day present can, THe Prestige on HD.

Nice, looks like you've got plenty to watch. Enjoy.

[GPWYANKEE]

Anybody here grab the Underworld Import yet???Curious how it looks and sounds.

[MofoEd]

Well Gents-Just ponyed up and bought this baby.

Grif-When i see you next im kicking you right in the nuts:eek:
Had no idea the 705 was out yet, thought it was delayed.
Well congrats then if you managed to get one

[civictyperboy]

um you can upgrade the 20gb PS3, I put at 120 GB HDD in it, the wireless and card reader are the only other things that the 60 GB has over the 20, not to mention no one has the 20GB, I like saying yeah I own one and for 400 CDN that's a steal

[GPWYANKEE]

Had no idea the 705 was out yet, thought it was delayed.
Well congrats then if you managed to get one

SR805 was the one i got-I miss spoke myself:o

[freezerfuel]

Just a tidbit of info for those that were talking about upconverting and have the same problem I do... the Oppo 970 can indeed be hacked to upconvert via component and by the sounds of it, pretty easy. I've read nothing but good about Oppo so I'm going to get one. Also, there is a Samsung (981 I think) and a Phillips that can do the same but I haven't read as much good stuff about those, but they are cheaper.
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To keep this post HD related :p here is a projector I'm drooling over, great price!

http://www.mitsubishi-hometheater.com/hd1000u.asp

[MofoEd]

SR805 was the one i got-I miss spoke myself:o
Wow even better. Great receiver, I would have loved to have gotten that one instead, but just don;t have the $$$ for that, congrats again.

[GPWYANKEE]

Wow even better. Great receiver, I would have loved to have gotten that one instead, but just don;t have the $$$ for that, congrats again.


Thanks!!

[grif32]

Well Gents-Just ponyed up and bought this baby.

Grif-When i see you next im kicking you right in the nuts:eek:

LMAO - would love to help hook everything up when you get it.

[grif32]

get the 60GB from what i hear the 20 GB is missing features not sure what and you can't upgrade the system.

Like someone said this can be upgraded.

Chris

[PrimeBane]

Anybody here grab the Underworld Import yet???Curious how it looks and sounds.

No, but I've heard good things about it... not a disk I'd buy as the movie was mearly okay (plus I've watched it twice on my HD movie channel)

um you can upgrade the 20gb PS3, I put at 120 GB HDD in it, the wireless and card reader are the only other things that the 60 GB has over the 20, not to mention no one has the 20GB, I like saying yeah I own one and for 400 CDN that's a steal

The HDD isn't a concern... I would need wireless however, but I supposed I could buy a 3rd party product. The biggest concern is that it's used... and with pretty much a guaranteed price cut sometime this fall I may just wait.

[JaylisJayP]

i bought the 20GB PS3 when it first came out on ebay...i was impatient but only ended up going $50 over retail. Anyway, I wish I would've waited if only for the Wi-Fi...i wonder if that's something you can upgrade and for how much.

[PrimeBane]

.
To keep this post HD related :p here is a projector I'm drooling over, great price!

http://www.mitsubishi-hometheater.com/hd1000u.asp

I so want a projector for my basement and the 720p ones are VERY reasonably priced.

I'm currently keeping my eye on Sanyo PLV-Z5 and the BenQ W500 as possibilities.

[PrimeBane]

i bought the 20GB PS3 when it first came out on ebay...i was impatient but only ended up going $50 over retail. Anyway, I wish I would've waited if only for the Wi-Fi...i wonder if that's something you can upgrade and for how much.

Linksys offers these
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C1&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416940536&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

D-Link offers these
http://games.dlink.com/products/category.asp?cid=1

I think they're sub $100... probably much less if you can find them on sale.

[Wofford29]

Alright guys. I'm about two weeks out from having my home theater finished. I don't know much about the equipment I'm recieving from the guy who's doing my room. Really the only thing I picked out was the Projector. Anywho, here's what he's got me spec'd at. I wanted to see if you guys know anything about it...

The projector I picked is the Panasonic PTAE1000U 1080P
The reciever is a Marantz MARSR5001 90 watts x 7 channels
Polk Audio 5.1 surrond with the PSW505 Sub

Now outside of that I'm looking to get a dvd player to go along with it all. I was thinking about just doing the xbox 360 HD add on and give the real machines time to drop in price. Any thoughts?

[freezerfuel]

I so want a projector for my basement and the 720p ones are VERY reasonably priced.

I'm currently keeping my eye on Sanyo PLV-Z5 and the BenQ W500 as possibilities.

I'll def have to look into those as well, it will be minimum 2 months before I can get one anyway so I've got plenty of time to read up. :D

Yeah 720p seems to be very affordeable, under $1000 is crazy.

Know of any reputable online dealers in Canada that sell projectors?

[grif32]

Alright guys. I'm about two weeks out from having my home theater finished. I don't know much about the equipment I'm recieving from the guy who's doing my room. Really the only thing I picked out was the Projector. Anywho, here's what he's got me spec'd at. I wanted to see if you guys know anything about it...

The projector I picked is the Panasonic PTAE1000U 1080P
The reciever is a Marantz MARSR5001 90 watts x 7 channels
Polk Audio 5.1 surrond with the PSW505 Sub

Now outside of that I'm looking to get a dvd player to go along with it all. I was thinking about just doing the xbox 360 HD add on and give the real machines time to drop in price. Any thoughts?

Nice set-up.

I think they need to lower the price of the add-on. Prices were $199.00 for the a2 standalones for a little while. Still a nice pc of equipment for only $199.00 tho

[PrimeBane]

Looks VERY SWEET Wofford29!

As for the addon, it's a nice cheap way to get into HD, but you can find the Toshiba HD-A2 for $299.99 or less. It comes with 5 free movies and makes a terrific upconverting DVD player as well.

[Wofford29]

So if I went with the A2 the max it will ever put out is 1080i right? I know the 360 add on is releasing a cable to put out 1080p next month, do you think the A2 would still be a better option as far as quality and for playing SD DVD?

[PrimeBane]

I'll def have to look into those as well, it will be minimum 2 months before I can get one anyway so I've got plenty of time to read up. :D

Yeah 720p seems to be very affordeable, under $1000 is crazy.

Know of any reputable online dealers in Canada that sell projectors?

These are two that were recommended to me... I haven't purchased anything from them yet so I can't comment on them personally.

http://www.softmagic.ca/
http://www.complete-it.ca/

www.tigerdirect.ca (http://www.tigerdirect.ca) also carries projectors.

[freezerfuel]

Alright guys. I'm about two weeks out from having my home theater finished. I don't know much about the equipment I'm recieving from the guy who's doing my room. Really the only thing I picked out was the Projector. Anywho, here's what he's got me spec'd at. I wanted to see if you guys know anything about it...

The projector I picked is the Panasonic PTAE1000U 1080P
The reciever is a Marantz MARSR5001 90 watts x 7 channels
Polk Audio 5.1 surrond with the PSW505 Sub

Now outside of that I'm looking to get a dvd player to go along with it all. I was thinking about just doing the xbox 360 HD add on and give the real machines time to drop in price. Any thoughts?

Sounds sweet, I'd be interested in how that projector performs after you get it all fired up. Congrats!

[Wofford29]

I'll be sure to chime in on it. Right now I'm doing all the construction and painting and everything and the guy will be here tomorrow to work on his end some more. I estimate this week and next before it's finished.

[freezerfuel]

These are two that were recommended to me... I haven't purchased anything from them yet so I can't comment on them personally.

http://www.softmagic.ca/
http://www.complete-it.ca/

www.tigerdirect.ca (http://www.tigerdirect.ca) also carries projectors.

Thank ya sir. :D

[PrimeBane]

So if I went with the A2 the max it will ever put out is 1080i right? I know the 360 add on is releasing a cable to put out 1080p next month, do you think the A2 would still be a better option as far as quality and for playing SD DVD?

1080i to the project should be fine for now... it will upconvert to 1080p, but you'll probably want to look at a true 1080p output device when the price is more reasonable (maybe my Xmas if you're lucky).

The A2 will do a way better job than the 360 for upconverting DVDs.

Don't hang too much on that new 3rd party 360 HDMI cable... it looks great, but there's a lot of unanswered questions and no price has been released.

[Wofford29]

Cool, thanks for the help guys. I'll post pics and everything once I get it set up. I took the screen down to paint and drop in some can lights so it's just blank walls right now. I'll keep it posted though.

[PrimeBane]

One more thing Wofford... I'm not an expert on sound, but double check to see if the receiver does decodes lossless audio. I took at quick look at the specs and I'm not sure it did.

[PrimeBane]

Thank ya sir. :D

No prob... if you find a sweet deal be sure to let me know. I figure one should be able to get any of those projectors (including the one you posted) for around $1000 CDN on sale at some point soon. :)

[grif32]

wofford I will wait and get the toshiba Xa2 - Bet Upscale DVD player out there with a sweet 1080P HD pic to boot. I believe they will drop $100.00 with the upcoming sale on them.

Chris

[PrimeBane]

I agree with Christ... wait if you can.

Although it will be tough with that sweet 1080p projector BEGGIN' for some HD content. :D

There's also the new Sony Blu-ray player if you want to go that route as well. It does a fine job of upconverting and it's a true 1080p with 1080p/60p and 24p output (it's what all the Blu-ray fanboys RAVE about) player. MSRP is $499 US so you could probably find it for less in a month or so.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Cool, thanks for the help guys. I'll post pics and everything once I get it set up. I took the screen down to paint and drop in some can lights so it's just blank walls right now. I'll keep it posted though.

You should take progress pics so we can all see how it is coming along. Sweet setup by the way

[freezerfuel]

No prob... if you find a sweet deal be sure to let me know. I figure one should be able to get any of those projectors (including the one you posted) for around $1000 CDN on sale at some point soon. :)

Oh you bet I will. I'm pretty much at the point where almost everything needs upgrading, first thing I'm going to do is get that Oppo DVD player, then get a projector for the basement, then get a HD and good upconverter movie source happening for the projector, once that happens I'll move the Oppo upstairs and use it with the 52" for casual DVD watching. I have a not so bad but not great reciever, still need to figure out the audio situation but I'll get to it eventually lol.

[JaylisJayP]

Hey guys...how fancy do I need to get on a surge protector for my new TV?

[PrimeBane]

Depends... how's the power in your area? Do you get many brownouts?

[Wofford29]

This is the stepup entrance into the theater...

http://i9.tinypic.com/4pbmm1l.jpg

This is day one of construction. The screen was tac'd up and the speakers were dropped in.

http://i14.tinypic.com/5x62oht.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/66jtg86.jpg

This is opening up the doors into the theater. This was start of day two. Walls Painted, trim painted, can lights dropped in front and back, and all the outlets and switches changed from white to black and dimmers added.

http://i8.tinypic.com/4z2qu04.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/68i4zyc.jpg
http://i14.tinypic.com/67o7d4h.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/62ru89l.jpg

This is where I'll be building the platform. I have to get the recliners in first before I can spec out the details. But it will be back in this area.

http://i9.tinypic.com/4th5k0p.jpg

Here's the doors leaving out of the theater. I've yet to paint them because I'm probably going to take them off and mount them to swing out instead of in.

http://i11.tinypic.com/6ezxvee.jpg

This is the screen taken down with a coke can placed in front of it for reference.

http://i19.tinypic.com/4pnlxld.jpg

Finally, here is where all my components will be housed. It's the closet in the room behind the theater, but it's been wired from the attic and the wires dropped down inside the walls to come out here.

http://i11.tinypic.com/6cgtytv.jpg



I haven't decided what I'm goin to do to the ceiling yet, but I'll probably end up painting the majority of it the same dark grey color on the walls, and have a little drop down trim in the center of the ceiling with the inside painted like a night sky. I'll keep the progress shots coming. Thanks for looking and if it would be easier to start my own thread with this let me know so you won't have to dig through pages to see the shots.

[PrimeBane]

Nah, keep the photos here... they're great :)

[grif32]

Hey guys...how fancy do I need to get on a surge protector for my new TV?

I would spend the money and get a decent one. I wouldnt take any chances with a new Plasma or any really nice HDTV's and equipment..

My computer crapped the bed about 2 weeks about from and electrial storm we had. Unreal. Live and learn I guess.

Probably will never have a problem but why chance it.

chris

[JaylisJayP]

any recommendations...or guidance on how much they should cost? 30 bucks? 60 bucks?

[grif32]

I agree with Christ... wait if you can.

Although it will be tough with that sweet 1080p projector BEGGIN' for some HD content. :D

There's also the new Sony Blu-ray player if you want to go that route as well. It does a fine job of upconverting and it's a true 1080p with 1080p/60p and 24p output (it's what all the Blu-ray fanboys RAVE about) player. MSRP is $499 US so you could probably find it for less in a month or so.

Wow I have called alot of things but never Christ :D

Chris

[PrimeBane]

LOL... whoops

[PrimeBane]

any recommendations...or guidance on how much they should cost? 30 bucks? 60 bucks?

$60 should be fine... Belkin makes a nice HT bar.

[GPWYANKEE]

Well so much for getting my Onkyo SR805-This unit only has one subwoofer output and i need 2.My front speakers have dual built in subwoofers so i need the two ports.It really blows because my current onkyo has dual ports.Back to the old drawing board.

[Xsao]

Well so much for getting my Onkyo SR805-This unit only has one subwoofer output and i need 2.My front speakers have dual built in subwoofers so i need the two ports.It really blows because my current onkyo has dual ports.Back to the old drawing board.



just get one of those Y adapter things that split it so you can add 2.

[toomanyfigures]

any recommendations...or guidance on how much they should cost? 30 bucks? 60 bucks?
i got this badboy for just under 300...the salesman probly took me for a walk and im sure theres cheaper but the outlets my system runs from has had problems with brown outs and such so i just went on the safer side
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/theunholytwo/DSC06459.jpg

[GPWYANKEE]

just get one of those Y adapter things that split it so you can add 2.


How much sound quality will i lose???

[grif32]

How much sound quality will i lose???

I dont think you will lose any.

[GPWYANKEE]

I dont think you will lose any.


If thats the case then im back on

[grif32]

If thats the case then im back on

Double check with Onkyo to make sure. We are not Audio nuts here so better be safe then sorry.

By logic it should work but then again you never know.

Chris

[GPWYANKEE]

Double check with Onkyo to make sure. We are not Audio nuts here so better be safe then sorry.

By logic it should work but then again you never know.

Chris

Your just about worthless arent ya?;)

Im in this damn mess because of you as it is.

[PrimeBane]

So basically the speakers w/ subs have two inputs on them?

[GPWYANKEE]

So basically the speakers w/ subs have two inputs on them?


Yes-Ive got a twin set of Paradigms that each have three built in subwoofers-Each speaker has a subwoofer connection that my current Onkyo Integra has dual ports for.The new highend Onkyos come with only one subwoofer port.

[grif32]

Your just about worthless arent ya?;)

Im in this damn mess because of you as it is.

LMAO - DO NOT blame this on me. I just had my hand in the Plasma next thing I know you are going HD DVD hog wild.

New Reciever. Must nice to be Rich :)

Next thing you know you are down to 160 pounds pimping yourself out....

I know the y adapter will work with two power subwoofers. Not sure if its any different with the speakers. I wouldnt think so.

[GPWYANKEE]

LMAO - DO NOT blame this on me. I just had my hand in the Plasma next thing I know you are going HD DVD hog wild.

New Reciever. Must nice to be Rich :)

Next thing you know you are down to 160 pounds pimping yourself out....

I know the y adapter will work with two power subwoofers. Not sure if its any different with the speakers. I wouldnt think so.

It is your fault weiner-Your arse is broke so you convince me to spend the cash:rolleyes:

[grif32]

It is your fault weiner-Your arse is broke so you convince me to spend the cash:rolleyes:

LOL far from broke. Just the house is eating all my money up...

New Roof, New furance, New Electric = NO new toys for awhile..

But its good to help a close friend spend his cash :D

Chris

[GPWYANKEE]

LOL far from broke. Just the house is eating all my money up...

New Roof, New furance, New Electric = NO new toys for awhile..

But its good to help a close friend spend his cash :D

Chris


I hear ya-I needed to buy a new receiver right now about as much as i need a labotomy.Houses definately have a way of sucking down ones cashola-Thats for damn sure.

[grif32]

I hear ya-I needed to buy a new receiver right now about as much as i need a labotomy.Houses definately have a way of sucking down ones cashola-Thats for damn sure.

Well I am lucky because most I can do myself.

New Roof cost me $800

New Furance installed cost me $600

New Electric 200amp service cost me $300

All material and my fat arse doing the labor.

Chris

[PrimeBane]

Do you install AC? I can pay you in shiny HD disks. :D

[GPWYANKEE]

Man without my central air and pool right now id be one sorry sum*****.

[PrimeBane]

A nice little article on HDMI

http://www1.electronichouse.com/info/specials/hdmi_basics.html

[JaylisJayP]

A nice little article on HDMI

http://www1.electronichouse.com/info/specials/hdmi_basics.html

very strong, helpful article.

[civictyperboy]

Yes purchase a power strip, the one that was shown is the one that I have, but like i've said before I work for Sony so I got it for waaayyyy less that 300 bucks, its got like 4 ethernet ports and 4 coax inputs/outputs and I like how it has different plugs for different types of products, high power, medium power and low power, it also equalizes all your power so nothing causes a power spike

[JaylisJayP]

I bought a Phillips one at Wal-Mart that I'm sure will do nothing but falsely support my notion that I'm somehow protected from a lightning bolt. :)

$200,000 guarantee...can't go wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I'll note the sarcasm just in case anyone missed it)

[PrimeBane]

As long as it takes the first hit for your HT equipment, it's all good. :)

[MofoEd]

Hey GPWYANKEE,
Just to let you know if you need advice on your new receiver you can always go here on this forum:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=857502&page=1&pp=30

It has 50 pages worth of stuff just on that receiver alone (the receiver is not even 2 months old on retail yet, goes to show you how many ppl like the new Onkyos I guess). I went to that forum for my 605. Just letting you know.

[GPWYANKEE]

Hey GPWYANKEE,
Just to let you know if you need advice on your new receiver you can always go here on this forum:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=857502&page=1&pp=30

It has 50 pages worth of stuff just on that receiver alone (the receiver is not even 2 months old on retail yet, goes to show you how many ppl like the new Onkyos I guess). I went to that forum for my 605. Just letting you know.


Sweet-Thank You.

Garth(GPWYANKEE)

[GPWYANKEE]

Got a nice deal on the Onkyo-$899 Dlvd-No tax-No Shipping from Amazon.

[JaylisJayP]

Wow....set up my Panasonic 50" Plasma last night and am completely blown away. I'm really glad I listened to to your guys' advice, because the picture and performance is just simply breathtaking.

Standard TV looks very clear with no pixelation or blur....Blu-Ray of course looks ridiculous, but I was most pleased with the combination of the PS3 upscaling a regular DVD and how well it displayed. I popped in The Warriors that I got from blockbuster online, and I couldn't believe the quality...I always rolled my eyes at the guys who said their upconvert DVDs were "good enough" until a high-def format was decided, but I can see what they mean...the detail wasn't there, but the clarity and to an extent the colors were on par with HD material.

Anyway, one quick question - I know if you're watching in 4:3 and you have the gray bars, that can cause burn in, but if I'm watching something that doesn't fill the whole screen, but the "bars" are just black space on the top and bottom....will that cause burn-in as well over time?

Thanks, and thanks again (Prime, Grif) for the plasma info.

[grif32]

Wow....set up my Panasonic 50" Plasma last night and am completely blown away. I'm really glad I listened to to your guys' advice, because the picture and performance is just simply breathtaking.

Standard TV looks very clear with no pixelation or blur....Blu-Ray of course looks ridiculous, but I was most pleased with the combination of the PS3 upscaling a regular DVD and how well it displayed. I popped in The Warriors that I got from blockbuster online, and I couldn't believe the quality...I always rolled my eyes at the guys who said their upconvert DVDs were "good enough" until a high-def format was decided, but I can see what they mean...the detail wasn't there, but the clarity and to an extent the colors were on par with HD material.

Anyway, one quick question - I know if you're watching in 4:3 and you have the gray bars, that can cause burn in, but if I'm watching something that doesn't fill the whole screen, but the "bars" are just black space on the top and bottom....will that cause burn-in as well over time?

Thanks, and thanks again (Prime, Grif) for the plasma info.

It could. Take the time and break in the plasma. Turn down brightness and contrast under 50% for the first 100hrs. Wait untill the plasma breaks in because the picture will only get better.

Just make sure you switch up the content. Som 4:3, some full screen and so on and you shouldnt have any problems

Enjoy your new toy

Chris

[PrimeBane]

:D

Make sure you take that plasma off Vivid mode.

Yeah, the 2.35:1 and 2.40 could give you the same problems if you watch too much of it. But you should be fine for movies here and there... the burn-in occurs when you watch nothing BUT 2.40/2.35:1 content or 4:3 content all the time. If you mix things up nicely and stretch 4:3 stuff you'll be just fine. :)

[JaylisJayP]

yeah i immediately set it from Vivid to standard last night.

The Panasonic also has a Zoom display, that effectively fills the screen to eliminate any bars anywhere.

[PrimeBane]

I'm not a fan of zoom... it cuts off too much.

I found Full to be the best setting.

Panasonics are the best plasmas in terms of resitance to burin-in so you can ride them a little harder than others. :)

[grif32]

I'm not a fan of zoom... it cuts off too much.

I found Full to be the best setting.

Panasonics are the best plasmas in terms of resitance to burin-in so you can ride them a little harder than others. :)

I agree the full is better IMO.. Panasonic makes one heck of a plamsa that for sure.

[GPWYANKEE]

How do you change the setting-Ive got a New Panasonic Plasma and im not sure how to do it.

[PrimeBane]

Click the MENU button on the remote and then select Display.

[grif32]

My remote control has the button "Aspect" on it..

Chris

[MPCanes]

Sorry Primebane, guess I was wrong - I just figured there was a reason it said "480p" and the Xbox360 clicked over when in regular DVD mode or HD-DVD mode (I've got a 58 inch 720p DLP TV, with everything running through component on it).

Oh, and I think I got my first dud disc for an HD-DVD - my copy of Bullitt from DDD doesn't want to work it seems. Guess I'll have to send it back, which sucks since they take forever.

Oh well, could always be worse.

[grif32]

Garth you need to look at getting a Harmony 880 or 890 remote.

Honestly its the best remote I have ever used. Controls everything with one push of the button. Very easy to program as well.

Just a thought since you are buying everything els :)

[grif32]

Sorry Primebane, guess I was wrong - I just figured there was a reason it said "480p" and the Xbox360 clicked over when in regular DVD mode or HD-DVD mode (I've got a 58 inch 720p DLP TV, with everything running through component on it).

Oh, and I think I got my first dud disc for an HD-DVD - my copy of Bullitt from DDD doesn't want to work it seems. Guess I'll have to send it back, which sucks since they take forever.

Oh well, could always be worse.

You can try and boil it first or run it under Hot Tap water for 15 seconds.

Chris

[PrimeBane]

My remote control has the button "Aspect" on it..

Chris

Yes, you're right... I was thinking Vivid mode. :o

[PrimeBane]

Sorry Primebane, guess I was wrong - I just figured there was a reason it said "480p" and the Xbox360 clicked over when in regular DVD mode or HD-DVD mode (I've got a 58 inch 720p DLP TV, with everything running through component on it).

Oh, and I think I got my first dud disc for an HD-DVD - my copy of Bullitt from DDD doesn't want to work it seems. Guess I'll have to send it back, which sucks since they take forever.

Oh well, could always be worse.

No worries man... that's how I learned most of the talk. I post something and someone would correct me. :) Hell, I still do it from time to time. :D

hmmm... Bullitt won't work? Haven't heard many problems about that disk. Try the hot water thing like Chris said (just be VERY careful drying it to prevent disk scratching). I assume you have all the updates for your HD DVD player?

Scott

[oaktown2000]

Was anyone looking for a cheap PS3???

Someone on the board is selling his for $450 - the 60gig one too

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398406

[Wofford29]

Garth you need to look at getting a Harmony 880 or 890 remote.

Honestly its the best remote I have ever used. Controls everything with one push of the button. Very easy to program as well.

Just a thought since you are buying everything els :)

That's good news, I'm getting the 890 with the radio frequency for my theater. I like the looks of the newer one better, but I've not read anything good about it other than it looks snazzy.

[PrimeBane]

Harmony remotes are awesome... I highly recommend them to anyone, although there isn't one that works with the PS3 yet (unless you buy an IR attachment).

[JaylisJayP]

Got my Mallrats, Lebowski, Army of Darkness HD DVDs today from the Barnes and Noble deal...can't wait to watch Lebowski this weekend.

[jskrap]

Wow....set up my Panasonic 50" Plasma last night and am completely blown away. I'm really glad I listened to to your guys' advice, because the picture and performance is just simply breathtaking.

Standard TV looks very clear with no pixelation or blur....Blu-Ray of course looks ridiculous, but I was most pleased with the combination of the PS3 upscaling a regular DVD and how well it displayed. I popped in The Warriors that I got from blockbuster online, and I couldn't believe the quality...I always rolled my eyes at the guys who said their upconvert DVDs were "good enough" until a high-def format was decided, but I can see what they mean...the detail wasn't there, but the clarity and to an extent the colors were on par with HD material.

Anyway, one quick question - I know if you're watching in 4:3 and you have the gray bars, that can cause burn in, but if I'm watching something that doesn't fill the whole screen, but the "bars" are just black space on the top and bottom....will that cause burn-in as well over time?

Thanks, and thanks again (Prime, Grif) for the plasma info.

I know how you feel. I've been watching Discovery HD nonstop since I got mine. Not only is it a great channel for the break-in period, the programs they show look freaking amazing. I just have a big grin on my face as I watch it.

[grif32]

Really good to see people enjoying HD with their new sets. I watch Crap in HD that I wouldnt dream of watching on SD...

[MofoEd]

No kiddin, Discovery HD is one of the best channels for HD programming, always get my fill of Planet Earth when they show it.

[MPCanes]

Thanks for the hot water tip, guys - Bullitt worked afterwards. The disc flat out wasn't being recognized before I did that.

What exactly was wrong with it where running it under hot tap water would fix it?

Oh, and any suggestions for a new sound system for HD-DVD watching and X-Box 360 playing? I'm moving into a new house that has a bedroom where I'll be that is roughly 10 feet by 10 feet. I have some Logitech Speakers that came with their 500 dollar PC system from a few years ago, but the sub died. I was thinking of maybe getting an Onkyo receiver (the one listed on the last page) for 400ish, and using the old speakers as I think they would be enough for the room, and then dropping 200 or so on a nice sub. Would this be more than adequate for now? Mind you I'm a recent grad on a pretty strict budget.

[grif32]

Thanks for the hot water tip, guys - Bullitt worked afterwards. The disc flat out wasn't being recognized before I did that.

What exactly was wrong with it where running it under hot tap water would fix it?

I think some type of coating..

Glad it worked.

Chris

[PrimeBane]

Oh, and any suggestions for a new sound system for HD-DVD watching and X-Box 360 playing? I'm moving into a new house that has a bedroom where I'll be that is roughly 10 feet by 10 feet. I have some Logitech Speakers that came with their 500 dollar PC system from a few years ago, but the sub died. I was thinking of maybe getting an Onkyo receiver (the one listed on the last page) for 400ish, and using the old speakers as I think they would be enough for the room, and then dropping 200 or so on a nice sub. Would this be more than adequate for now? Mind you I'm a recent grad on a pretty strict budget.

You've got the 360 HD DVD addon right?

If so, this system will do you for now.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5280864

You can't get lossless audio from the 360 so an Onkyo would be a complete waste of month for you at this time.

I have this system and it does a good enough job for the price. :)

[PrimeBane]

10 Easy Ways to improve High Def Disks

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Joshua_Zyber/Commentary/Memo_to_the_Studios:_Ten_Easy_Ways_to_Improve_High-Def_Discs/728

[MPCanes]

Thanks again, Primebane - Yeah, I've got the 360 add on. Only other thing I have to hook up to it would be my Macbook for music, and I'm assuming it has a standard hookup for that.

Man, TIB's got so much cheaper over the last 4 years.

[PrimeBane]

I'm pretty sure it does... if you like I can check when I get home tonight for whatever connection you need.

It's not going be the greatest system, but it does well enough for movies and games... I have heard it lacks a little for music, but I've never had a chance to try it out.

[MPCanes]

Honestly, it sounds like its slightly lower than I want - lacking for music would be a huge hit for me.

I think I'll look for something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-SR600-Theater-Entertainment-System/dp/B000NZ6JE8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5594405-5709703?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183153758&sr=8-1

Sounds like roughly my price range and I like the greater inputs and whatnot.

Then, I splurge on a sweet Harmony remote :D.

[UK_DaNnY]

hi all, dunno if this has already been posted but have you seen some of the blu-ray exclusives comin to HD dvd over here in europe, silent hill, fantastic 4, resident evil, resident evil apocolypse, hannibal, mr and mrs smith, ghost rider. thats all i can remember now if i can remeber any more i will post.

[JaylisJayP]

Lebowski got a pretty good review on Highdefdigest.com....can't wait to watch it this weekend.

"Hey man, there's a beverage involved!"

[captain_narcolepsy]

anyone know of any sites or stores with decently priced stands for tvs? i've got a 46" projection. any help would be awesome.

[HollandX]

anyone know of any sites or stores with decently priced stands for tvs? i've got a 46" projection. any help would be awesome.

http://www.racksandstands.com

[HollandX]

10 Easy Ways to improve High Def Disks

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Joshua_Zyber/Commentary/Memo_to_the_Studios:_Ten_Easy_Ways_to_Improve_High-Def_Discs/728

Good article. Hard to argue with any of it.

[PrimeBane]

Some new BD exclusives announced on HD DVD in Europe for those that are interested.

http://areahd.dvdtiefpreise.com/?p=109

August 1:
Hannibal (Universal) [France]

August 2:
Fantastic Four (Highlight) [Germany]
Language:

- German DTS HD 5.1
- English DTS HD 5.1
- German subtitles HoH (not forced)

Supplements:

- Audio Commentary with Ioan Gruffudd, Jessica Alba, Chris Evans, Michael Chiklis and Julian McMahon
- Deleted Scenes (24 min.)
- Making Of “Heroes are Born” (97 min.)
- The Baxtor Building (10 min.)
- Music videos “Everything burns”, “Come on, come in”
- Cast Biographies


August 31:
Underworld (Concorde) [Germany]
Silent Hill (Concorde) [Germany]

September 5:
Ghost Rider (M6 Vidéo) [France]

September 27:
Resident Evil (Highlight) [Germany]
Resident Evil: Apocaylpse (Highlight) [Germany]

Spring 2008:
Saw Trilogy (Kinowelt) [Germany]

PS:
August 24:
The Reaping (Warner) [Germany]
Not announced in the US, since New Line hesitates to release for either format.

Both, Concorde and Highlight, will release the movies on both HD formats.

[JaylisJayP]

good to see the HD DVD selection growing, even if they are imports.

[SBrooks1]

That's so weird that as we watch this BD/HD-DVD competition/war here in the US, movie studios release US BD exclusives on HD-DVD in Europe without hesitation.

[GPWYANKEE]

How many of you guys going to jump on the 5 free Blu Ray discs with a Blu Ray player purchase??

[GPWYANKEE]

That's so weird that as we watch this BD/HD-DVD competition/war here in the US, movie studios release US BD exclusives on HD-DVD in Europe without hesitation.

That is crazy and pricey for those of us that want to purchase the imports.:o

[PrimeBane]

How many of you guys going to jump on the 5 free Blu Ray discs with a Blu Ray player purchase??

Have you seen the list? Pretty bad IMO.

I think we'll see way better deals in the fall.

[GPWYANKEE]

Have you seen the list? Pretty bad IMO.

I think we'll see way better deals in the fall.


Just saw the list and was thinking the same thing.Neither Pirates movie was even included.I thought the HD freebies were bad but this choice selection is definately worse.

[JaylisJayP]

There was 1 from each category that is worth buying, except possibly the last category.

[captain_narcolepsy]

i'm probably going to, just because there are movies i love in the format, and i want to get them anyway, so why not get five free movies out of the deal.

[GPWYANKEE]

I just dont know of a decent Blue Ray Player out there at this point.The Samsung has gotten bashed hard everywear and most the others are grossly overpriced.

[JaylisJayP]

I just dont know of a decent Blue Ray Player out there at this point.The Samsung has gotten bashed hard everywear and most the others are grossly overpriced.

PS3!!!!!!!!!!

[civictyperboy]

yeah the PS3 is what I use

[captain_narcolepsy]

yeah, if i did pick up a blu ray player, it would be the ps3, so that i get something else for my money than just a player, although at the moment there's not even one game i feel like i am missing out on. maybe i can pick up all the ps2 games i never played but wanted to.

[moviemaniac4]

Right now, which is the most affordable but reliable plasma or LCD HDTV of about 32 inches in the market ?

[GPWYANKEE]

Does the PS3 still come with a free movie?I know it used to.

[civictyperboy]

The PS3 does not come with a free movie, and when it did it was a horrible movie anyway

[JaylisJayP]

yeah, if i did pick up a blu ray player, it would be the ps3, so that i get something else for my money than just a player, although at the moment there's not even one game i feel like i am missing out on. maybe i can pick up all the ps2 games i never played but wanted to.

Well, Ninja Gaiden Sigma comes out tomorrow, and after playing the demo I am 100% getting it. Also, it flew under the radar and didn't get great reviews, but Untold Legends is a really fun game...and of course there's Resistance. Those are all PS3 exclusive.

[JaylisJayP]

Right now, which is the most affordable but reliable plasma or LCD HDTV of about 32 inches in the market ?

I'd stick with a known brand...avoid something like Westinghouse or one you've never even heard of. Toshiba's products are always very good and they tend to be cheaper than the Panasonic/Sony/Samsung line of TVs.

Just shop around, read cnet.com and circuitcity.com reviews, those helped me a lot when I bought a new TV a few weeks ago.

[JaylisJayP]

Watched The Messengers on Blu-Ray last night. What a horrible movie (although the girl is pretty hot) but it has superb PQ in my opinion. Especially the outside day shots of the sunflower fields, they're very colorful and detailed. No grain to speak of whatsoever.

PQ - 4.75/5
Movie Quality - 1.5/5

[GPWYANKEE]

Watched The Messengers on Blu-Ray last night. What a horrible movie (although the girl is pretty hot) but it has superb PQ in my opinion. Especially the outside day shots of the sunflower fields, they're very colorful and detailed. No grain to speak of whatsoever.

PQ - 4.75/5
Movie Quality - 1.5/5

Saw messengers and The Breed over the weekend.Messengers was a heck of alot better then the Breed.Tells you how pathetic The Breed is:o

[supertim]

I'd stick with a known brand...avoid something like Westinghouse or one you've never even heard of. Toshiba's products are always very good and they tend to be cheaper than the Panasonic/Sony/Samsung line of TVs.

Just shop around, read cnet.com and circuitcity.com reviews, those helped me a lot when I bought a new TV a few weeks ago.

After you find a tv that you would like to buy, go over to frys.com and check out their prices. A lot of times it's cheaper online than in store. I saved $1200 on the tv I bought from frys.com vs Best Buy and $900 vs the Sony Store, which was cheaper than BB by $200:eek: Oh yeah, there was free shipping, too.

Strange thing was the fact that I couldn't buy the extended warranty from the brick & mortar Frys, since the store and web site aren't directly connected to one another:rolleyes:


Got the warranty from the Sony Store instead, and it was actually $50+ cheaper than the Frys one.

[oaktown2000]

I'd stick with a known brand...avoid something like Westinghouse or one you've never even heard of. Toshiba's products are always very good and they tend to be cheaper than the Panasonic/Sony/Samsung line of TVs.

Just shop around, read cnet.com and circuitcity.com reviews, those helped me a lot when I bought a new TV a few weeks ago.


That's odd......I could have sworn somewhere in this very thread someone posted an article where they did high tech tests on several brands of HDTVs and Westinghouse was near the top in overall performance...even beating out some High Profile Brands.

It was the article on the actual refresh rates (as opposed to the "claimed" refresh rates 1080i, 1080p, etc). I'm 99.9% it was in this very thread.

[grif32]

Just saw the list and was thinking the same thing.Neither Pirates movie was even included.I thought the HD freebies were bad but this choice selection is definately worse.

There is a BR player that comes with the 5 free disc in it and one of them is a Pirates movie and on top of that you get 5 more fee BR disc.

So you get a total of 10. Not bad for BR

Chris

[GPWYANKEE]

There is a BR player that comes with the 5 free disc in it and one of them is a Pirates movie and on top of that you get 5 more fee BR disc.

So you get a total of 10. Not bad for BR

Chris


Which one Chris??

My receiver showed up today:D :D Ill be hooking that puppy up tonight for sure.

[grif32]

Which one Chris??

My receiver showed up today:D :D Ill be hooking that puppy up tonight for sure.

I have to double check which one it was. Cant remember off the top of my head.

I have off all week. Need any help dont be afraid to call.

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

That's odd......I could have sworn somewhere in this very thread someone posted an article where they did high tech tests on several brands of HDTVs and Westinghouse was near the top in overall performance...even beating out some High Profile Brands.

It was the article on the actual refresh rates (as opposed to the "claimed" refresh rates 1080i, 1080p, etc). I'm 99.9% it was in this very thread.

Maybe I misspoke then...all I know is that I always see Wal-Mart advertising Westinghouse TVs with contract ratios at like 800:1.

[JaylisJayP]

check this article out....

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Microsoft/CustomFlix/Amazon/Amazon,_Microsoft__to_Help_Bring_Indie_Films_to_HD_DVD/734

For a company that supposedly doesn't really care who wins the format war, Microsoft sure is doing a lot to keep HD DVD treading water.

[grif32]

check this article out....

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Microsoft/CustomFlix/Amazon/Amazon,_Microsoft__to_Help_Bring_Indie_Films_to_HD_DVD/734

For a company that supposedly doesn't really care who wins the format war, Microsoft sure is doing a lot to keep HD DVD treading water.

Of course Microsoft cares. They want the war to prolong as long as possible and hopes that BR doesnt fail.

[grif32]

Garth I believe the Panny BD10a comes with the 5 free movies in the box plus you get the other 5 via mail in.

Chris

[toomanyfigures]

my store (blockbuster) finally got in blue ray today, about 100 titles but all one copy each.we havent put them out yet or gotten a rental price but we got a nice selection of old and new mostly late 90s to recent

so will blue ray players still play standard dvd?

[PrimeBane]

Right now, which is the most affordable but reliable plasma or LCD HDTV of about 32 inches in the market ?

Westinghouse LCD is your best bet, but also take a look at Sharps and Samsungs. You can't get a plasma in the 32" size.



so will blue ray players still play standard dvd?

Yes and in some cases upconvert them very well (PS3, Sony BDP300)

[GPWYANKEE]

Well after 3 weeks i finally got to hear my new HD DVD player with sound.Wooooooooow,What an amazing visual and listening experience that was.Im not sure i can warch regular Dvds or TV anymore.

[grif32]

Well after 3 weeks i finally got to hear my new HD DVD player with sound.Wooooooooow,What an amazing visual and listening experience that was.Im not sure i can warch regular Dvds or TV anymore.

Glad to hear you can finally enjoy your HD DVD's. Very Sweet. Which one did you watch first??

Chris

[GPWYANKEE]

Glad to hear you can finally enjoy your HD DVD's. Very Sweet. Which one did you watch first??

Chris


Batman Begins

[grif32]

Batman Begins

How was the audio? The bat mobile sounded sweet!!

[Wofford29]

question...

If you watch a movie on HBO HD is it the same quality as watching the same movie on an HD or Blu ray DVD?

[grif32]

question...

If you watch a movie on HBO HD is it the same quality as watching the same movie on an HD or Blu ray DVD?

I think the HD/BR is a heck of alot better the HBO HD..

Chris

[PrimeBane]

That's correct... the bit rate for cable and satellite HD movies is much lower than that of HD DVD and BD therefor you'll get a better picture (ie less macroblocking, etc)

[PrimeBane]

Well after 3 weeks i finally got to hear my new HD DVD player with sound.Wooooooooow,What an amazing visual and listening experience that was.Im not sure i can warch regular Dvds or TV anymore.

Excellent :D

But the novelty does wear off... in a few months it will be more about the content than how pretty it looks.

[JaylisJayP]

Regular DVDs are good with an upconverter...regular TV sucks these days.

[JaylisJayP]

I finally got my Harmony remote yesterday and programmed it this afternoon.

I'm not sure how I was able to survive without it, but I hope I never have to again. I effectively shelved 7...count 'em....7 remotes in favor of the Harmony.

[grif32]

I finally got my Harmony remote yesterday and programmed it this afternoon.

I'm not sure how I was able to survive without it, but I hope I never have to again. I effectively shelved 7...count 'em....7 remotes in favor of the Harmony.

What Harmony remote did you get?? I love my harmony 880 and it was SO simple to program.

Chris

[TheRedOx]

I'm curious which Harmony you got too. Definitely thinking about it but I want to be able to pretty much have all of my receiver and tv settings available - every little one.

[JaylisJayP]

It's the Harmony 659...it came free with my new TV purchase at Vanns.com.

[JaylisJayP]

I'm curious which Harmony you got too. Definitely thinking about it but I want to be able to pretty much have all of my receiver and tv settings available - every little one.

I was amazed that it picked up and controlled EVERYTHING. It was so simple too...after the initial program, if something isn't picking up at first, you press Help on the remote, and it asks you what's on or what turned off, and if something didn't turn off when you wanted it too, it will at that point read it and turn it off and add it to the memory for that function...

..then it asks "Now did it turn off?" Almost like the remote is exhuding arrogance as if to say "you like that, don't you?" :)

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Im gonna be in the market for a new Receiver and wanted to know which ones have Dolby TrueHD ?

I had my eye on the Onkyo TX-SR605

[mavs7410]

where do you ppl get ur hd dvds from?

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Amazon, Local Record Stores, FYE, BB, Circuit City, Fry's Electronics and WM or pretty much anyone who has a sale going on

[JaylisJayP]

FYE has the best selection of Brick and Mortar stores
Amazon has the best prices online
DeepDiscountDVD is pretty good too
Xploitedcinema.com or hdaddicts.com for HD DVD imports

[Hokies]

Im gonna be in the market for a new Receiver and wanted to know which ones have Dolby TrueHD ?

I had my eye on the Onkyo TX-SR605

I heard the SR805 is good. I am looking for a good receiver also.

[Touche'!]

I don't mean to look a gift horse in the mouth, but my brother said that I can have this projection HDTV of his for free since he's getting a new third HDTV and has no room for three HDTVs. Should I be thanking him for this 4-year-old HDTV or should he be thanking me for hauling it out of his home? It looks quite huge and heavy compared to those slim HDTVs that hang on the wall.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/3255/gamewu8.png

[HollandX]

I don't mean to look a gift horse in the mouth, but my brother said that I can have this projection HDTV of his for free since he's getting a new third HDTV and has no room for three HDTVs. Should I be thanking him for this 4-year-old HDTV or should he be thanking me for hauling it out of his home? It looks quite huge and heavy compared to those slim HDTVs that hang on the wall.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/3255/gamewu8.png


Some people actually favor the old CRT HDTVs for their ability to be calibrated better.

[mavs7410]

Amazon, Local Record Stores, FYE, BB, Circuit City, Fry's Electronics and WM or pretty much anyone who has a sale going on

ive mostly gotten my movies from amazon because there way cheaper not like best buy and circuit city were there like 40 for a movie which way too much...also wal mart has some good deals on hd dvds

[HollandX]

I heard the SR805 is good. I am looking for a good receiver also.

I have the 805. It's awesome.

[Wofford29]

How much are Blu Ray new releases at Best Buy and Circuit City on the week of release? Do they discount them like they do with regular DVD's?

[Touche'!]

Some people actually favor the old CRT HDTVs for their ability to be calibrated better.
So is the HDTV that I have pictured above a type that is "old" and no longer manufactured? I didn't ask my brother too many questions because I didn't want to sound ungrateful.

[MPCanes]

So is the HDTV that I have pictured above a type that is "old" and no longer manufactured? I didn't ask my brother too many questions because I didn't want to sound ungrateful.

It's old, but properly calibrated it can offer the best picture quality available, in some cases.

Hell, for free, I'd take it.

[oaktown2000]

I see you lurking in here Wofford.....looking to spend some of that cash of mine on some Blu Rays :D

[Wofford29]

lol, I actually do have a thread in the b/s/t board looking for blu rays. my theater should be done by next week, and I gotta get something going in it. My PS3 should be here tomorrow.

[HollandX]

It's old, but properly calibrated it can offer the best picture quality available, in some cases.

Hell, for free, I'd take it.

I agree on both counts.

The only thing is you need a big car and a few good men. Those old beeyotches are BIG and HEAVY.

[oaktown2000]

lol, I actually do have a thread in the b/s/t board looking for blu rays. my theater should be done by next week, and I gotta get something going in it. My PS3 should be here tomorrow.

congrats...I recently asked the wifey about the prospect of picking up a PS3.....and well...let's just say that didn't go over too well. I tried to explain that I only want it as capable Blu Ray player...but all she thinks is "great...ANOTHER video gaming system". She despises my 360...as it takes quality time away from her :D I think the soonest I'll venture into HD is with the 360 add-on HD DVD

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I heard the SR805 is good. I am looking for a good receiver also.

The 805 is a little bit out of my price range, I just wanted to make sure that the 605 is worht the bang for the buck

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I compared the 2 and it doesnt seem like much of a differnce other then 1 being THX. Im still new to the HD world

[grif32]

I don't mean to look a gift horse in the mouth, but my brother said that I can have this projection HDTV of his for free since he's getting a new third HDTV and has no room for three HDTVs. Should I be thanking him for this 4-year-old HDTV or should he be thanking me for hauling it out of his home? It looks quite huge and heavy compared to those slim HDTVs that hang on the wall.


http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/3255/gamewu8.png



U would be crazy NOT to take that for Free. Those old TV's can give off one Hell of an HD picture.

Take it and be very thankful

[HollandX]

Just got this in an e-mail, and started a thread about it here: http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399724

> Circuit City supposedly will have PS3 for $499 ($100 off). It's not
> showing
> on Circuit City's website yet, but some guy who is supposedly very
> reliable
> posted about it on CheapAssGamer. There's a thread about it on GAF (
> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169116 )
>
> Also, that BluRay deal (5 free discs w/purchase of player) does appear to
> work with PS3 ( http://www.bluraysavings.com/ ) .
>
> Oh yeah, Microsoft also extended the warranty on 360's that get the 3 red
> lights of death to 3 years from date of purchase(
> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169105 ).

[oaktown2000]

> Oh yeah, Microsoft also extended the warranty on 360's that get the 3 red
> lights of death to 3 years from date of purchase(
> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169105 ).

More important....the part where they say they are going to re-imburse anyone who had to pay $$$ due to the the three red rings.

[HollandX]

PS3: $100 off and 5 FREE BDs.

It's not Circuit City. It's everywhere. And it starts July 12th.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16721

[Radiation74]

How is hellboy in blu-ray?

[JaylisJayP]

How is hellboy in blu-ray?

My quick review:

Movie: 4/5 stars
PQ: 4.5/5 stars

[Wofford29]

any word on when Batman Begins is supposed to come out on Blu Ray?

[JaylisJayP]

i actually heard somewhere on Avsforum around October....don't quote me on it, though.

[JaylisJayP]

Also in October is a new BBC release Galapagos...looks sweet, for both Blu-ray and HD DVD.

[Wofford29]

I wonder if Batman Begins on Blu ray is just going to be a port of the HD version. In which case I'd imagine it would lose a little in the transfer eh?

[MPCanes]

I wonder if Batman Begins on Blu ray is just going to be a port of the HD version. In which case I'd imagine it would lose a little in the transfer eh?

It doesn't work like that.

It is simply recoded in the same codec on a different disc format. It will look the same, provided they don't intentially **** blu-ray over, which would be insane.

[JaylisJayP]

This is pretty cool, I'll definitely pick this up when it comes out, as I've always been a Dave Matthews fan...his acoustic shows with Tim Reynolds are great, I imagine this one will sound phenomenal.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Sony_BMG/Music_on_High-Def/Disc_Announcements/Sony_BMG_to_Bow_Live_at_Radio_City_Blu-ray_from_Dave_Matthews/744

[Wofford29]

Pretty good deal here...

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Feet-Super-Resolution-Cable/dp/B0002L5R78/ref=sr_1_1/002-8124856-4682469?ie=UTF8&m=A3VODXGBJ323R7&s=generic&qid=1183783989&sr=1-1

[UK_DaNnY]

hi all, just a head up, on play.com its showing the graduate, leaving las vegas and t2 judgement day for HD DVD release on the 13th August. and hannibal rising for december release on blu-ray

[TheRedOx]

Going back to the Harmony remotes for a second - I had the 880 all rang up at Circuit City, ready to go until I asked "What happens if it doesn't do everything I want it to?, What is the return policy on this?" They said there would be a 15% restocking fee so I told him to take it off the order right away - that's crap IMO. For a $250 remote they want to charge me almost $40 to return it if I open the box? Yeah, right.:rolleyes:

[grif32]

Going back to the Harmony remotes for a second - I had the 880 all rang up at Circuit City, ready to go until I asked "What happens if it doesn't do everything I want it to?, What is the return policy on this?" They said there would be a 15% restocking fee so I told him to take it off the order right away - that's crap IMO. For a $250 remote they want to charge me almost $40 to return it if I open the box? Yeah, right.:rolleyes:

Why would you buy it from CC??

Amazon has it plus a hassle free return policy

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Advanced-Universal-Control/dp/B00093IIRA/ref=pd_bbs_1/105-0237520-0318849?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1183815435&sr=8-1

[JaylisJayP]

why would you ever buy electronics from Circuit City...for the reason you stated and because their warranties are always extremely expensive, even more than best buy. I regularly see warranties coming in at more than a third of the cost of the actual product.

They'll never get my business for anything other than games or movies when they're on sale.

[GPWYANKEE]

Ill give you that-When i bought my plasma from Circuit City they wanted more for a 2 year plan then what i paid for a 5 year plan from Sears on my previous set which was also a 3500.00 set.

Finally got my subs working now im dialed right in.Next stop-Blue Ray

[grif32]

Ill give you that-When i bought my plasma from Circuit City they wanted more for a 2 year plan then what i paid for a 5 year plan from Sears on my previous set which was also a 3500.00 set.

Finally got my subs working now im dialed right in.Next stop-Blue Ray

Dont you mean Blu-Ray :)

Get the PS3 when it drops down to $499.00. Fully upgradable and Zero worries.

Chris

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Pretty good deal here...

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Feet-Super-Resolution-Cable/dp/B0002L5R78/ref=sr_1_1/002-8124856-4682469?ie=UTF8&m=A3VODXGBJ323R7&s=generic&qid=1183783989&sr=1-1

I would get it but it doesnt qualify for the free shipping and they want to charge me $8.50 for shipping

[grif32]

If you havent watched Transformers then GO watch it. Simply AMAZING movie. Lots of action, HOT CHICKS and some good humor..

Great Movie.. Best I have seen this year.

[grif32]

I would get it but it doesnt qualify for the free shipping and they want to charge me $8.50 for shipping

Did I miss something with that link?? A 6ft HDMI cable for $69.00 is a good deal?

I think I am missing something.

Chris

[MPCanes]

The 69.99 should be scratched out as they are selling it for 97 cents.

[grif32]

The 69.99 should be scratched out as they are selling it for 97 cents.

Got it, it is I just didnt see it. Like I said I was looking at it fast and didnt see that. :)

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

That's how much I paid for my last HDMI cable...$1 with $5 shipping.

Another reason why Circuit City is criminal...I think the cheapest one they had there was $90 bucks.

[GPWYANKEE]

I bought my HDMI cables at BJs for 13.00.I was just to impatient to wait for the mail to come:o

[GPWYANKEE]

If you havent watched Transformers then GO watch it. Simply AMAZING movie. Lots of action, HOT CHICKS and some good humor..

Great Movie.. Best I have seen this year.


Saw it friday night-I agree it was a awesome movie.Im sure the fanboys will piss and moan but i loved it.

[Wofford29]

I would get it but it doesnt qualify for the free shipping and they want to charge me $8.50 for shipping

I just bought two to make it a better deal with combined shipping. $10.30 dlvd for two 6ft HDMI cables is pretty good. No one around me sells any for less than $50.

[HollandX]

is it stupid to buy a 5.1 htib and only use 2.1 or 3.1 sound? i want the tiny speakers and simple receiver for the low cost for $200-$250. it's for my little exercise area. i don't feel like paying for longer wire to run wires behind me. at least not now.

[grif32]

is it stupid to buy a 5.1 htib and only use 2.1 or 3.1 sound? i want the tiny speakers and simple receiver for the low cost for $200-$250. it's for my little exercise area. i don't feel like paying for longer wire to run wires behind me. at least not now.

No I dont think so.. Maybe you will use the 5.1 someday anyway

Chris

[HollandX]

HD DVD Sale at Best Buy this week

$14.99:
Goodfellas
The Last Samurai
Troy
The Phantom of the Opera
V for Vendetta

$24.99:
Superman Returns CMB

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Sale at Fry's for Blu Ray

20 movies at $12.50 each.

Most of the movies suck, but they had Hellboy, Identity and Memento.
The other movies I saw were Big Fish, Kung Fu Hustle and Hitch. They had a whole table set up, but I wasn't interested in most of those.

[JaylisJayP]

i really, really wish there were a Fry's near me here in Florida.

[PrimeBane]

If you haven't already pre-ordered Heroes Season 1 on HD DVD, you can get an additional 5% off using the code "tvguide5"

http://www.tvguide.com/special/dvd/

I kinda wish I'd waited now. :(

[WingNut 25]

I need to hit Best Buy tomorrow on my lunch and grab some HD movies on sale.

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

HD DVD Sale at Best Buy this week

$14.99:
Goodfellas
The Last Samurai
Troy
The Phantom of the Opera
V for Vendetta

$24.99:
Superman Returns CMB
Are those the only ones on sale? Or the only ones you have any interest in?

[PrimeBane]

So it sounds like Sony FINALLY confirmed the PS3 price drop and the 80 GB for North America

Effective immediately (hopefully reflected in stores soon) the prices will be

60 GB - $499 US, $549 CDN
80 GB - $599 US, $659 CDN (available in August)

Now if I can find a deal where they include a free game and movie, I might just make the BD plunge :)

[JaylisJayP]

Are those the only ones on sale? Or the only ones you have any interest in?

these are the only ones on sale

[JaylisJayP]

So it sounds like Sony FINALLY confirmed the PS3 price drop and the 80 GB for North America

Effective immediately (hopefully reflected in stores soon) the prices will be

60 GB - $499 US, $549 CDN
80 GB - $599 US, $659 CDN (available in August)

Now if I can find a deal where they include a free game and movie, I might just make the BD plunge :)

i think the PS3 qualifies for the 5 free blu-ray movies thing...of course it'll be 2 months before you see them, but still....

[WingNut 25]

What Blu Ray movies are there to choose from for that deal?

Is The Last Samurai worth buying on HD?

[PrimeBane]

Totally forgot about the 5 movies thing... and it's good until Sept. :)

It's still 5 crappy movies though, but with a BB gift card burning a hole in my pocket I should have it all for about $510 CDN... but I think I'll wait a month or two to see what deals come up from the local big box electronics stores.

USA DEAL: http://www.bluraysavings.com/index.html
CANADA DEAL: http://www.bluraysavings.com/index_ca.html

[IceRat]

Now if I can find a deal where they include a free game and movie, I might just make the BD plunge :)
the 80 GB version supposedly is bundled with MotorStorm FWIW