High Definition Discussion Thread - Blu-Ray, HDTV, etc...

[PrimeBane]

One seller I know said he saw the cases... don't know if it had the disk or not.

Apparently this info was hinted at to seller as early as last week.

[HollandX]

WOW!

http://hddvd-blog.com/data/photos/photo_bog.gif

[HollandX]

This does scare me a little with the Paramount exclusivity. What if all new (non-combo) releases are $27.95??

[HollandX]

more giggles.

http://i15.tinypic.com/63bjxmt.jpg

[JaylisJayP]

last photo's not showing for me

[PrimeBane]

Silly me... paramount/dw does not release combo disks.

[JaylisJayP]

paramount has always had that price for non catalog new releases.

[freezerfuel]

Bought a new receiver for the home theatre... VSX-515. I decided to stay away from an HDMI audio/video pass thru blah blah. My Pioneer HTIB has been very good to me and I was always impressed with it so I wanted to stay with that name. It supports DTS, DD and has power, that's what I care about. Maybe when the prices come down on these new HDMI receivers and they've stood the tribulations of time I'll look into getting one. Gonna stick with a good 'ol optical cable for a while longer.

Just thought I'd mention this is getting returned, it's just not cutting it.

[stupidsuck]

Does anyone know how hard it is to get a new replacement screen for a 46" samsung rear projection TV? I just dinged the middle of the screen moving it upstairs and I can get a 46" Magnavox replacement screen but does anyone know if it will work?

[HollandX]

last photo's not showing for me

thx. fisted.

[JaylisJayP]

what's REALLY funny about that photo is that the blu-ray sales were still going up. lol.

[HollandX]

Speilberg confuses me.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Forecasts/Steven_Spielberg/Exclusive:_Spielberg_Big_Supporter_of_Blu-ray,_But_Future_High-Def_Releases_Uncertain/878

WTH is he trying so say?

[HollandX]

SPIDER-MAN TRILOGY BACK AT $64.99!!! GO! GO! GO!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UR9T82/104-7429444-7371151

edit: spider-man 3 straight up back to $29.95

[HollandX]

interesting:

It remains unclear how long Paramount's previously-released Blu-ray titles will remain on store shelves, and/or whether they're even included in the terms of the studio's exclusivity pact with HD DVD. Needless to say, we'll let you know as soon as any official information comes in.

[PrimeBane]

I read somewhere that they'll leave the current stock on shelves, but there will be no more pressings of BD disks. So if you really want Mission Impossible on BD, get it before it's gone.

Thanks for the link on SM :D

[HollandX]

i just got black rain BD new on amazon for $17.95. paramount BD stock clearance?

[HollandX]

italian job is also $17.95 on amazon

so is payback.

(paramount)

here is the list of paramount BD movies: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?studioid=6

new movies seem to be high priced still.

but i'm finding catalogs at $17.95

[HollandX]

not paramount, but the original BD fifth element is $14.95 new, $9.95 used.

lollers

[PrimeBane]

Does anyone know how hard it is to get a new replacement screen for a 46" samsung rear projection TV? I just dinged the middle of the screen moving it upstairs and I can get a 46" Magnavox replacement screen but does anyone know if it will work?

A buddy of mine had to do this 2 or 3 years back when his stepdaughter took a screwdriver to the screen. I believe it cost him $500ish.

[ewto16]

Here are two dumb questions.....

Are all the discs in the Spiderman set in HD? The Amazon description doesn't make that terribly clear, though I assume they are. I just wanted to make sure.

Also, why do all of my movies still have the black bars on the top and bottom of my widescreen TV? I thought that movies weren't supposed to have them, but I am apparently wrong.

[PrimeBane]

Here are two dumb questions.....

Are all the discs in the Spiderman set in HD? The Amazon description doesn't make that terribly clear, though I assume they are. I just wanted to make sure.

Also, why do all of my movies still have the black bars on the top and bottom of my widescreen TV? I thought that movies weren't supposed to have them, but I am apparently wrong.

Columbia Pictures hasn't said what, if any, of the extras will be in HD or not.

As for the black bars, any movie in a 2.40 or 2.35:1 ratio will have them. You HD tv is only 16:9. There are some movies in that will fit exactly in any HDtv.

[ewto16]

Columbia Pictures hasn't said what, if any, of the extras will be in HD or not.

As for the black bars, any movie in a 2.40 or 2.35:1 ratio will have them. You HD tv is only 16:9. There are some movies in that will fit exactly in any HDtv.

I wasn't actually asking about the extras. I meant the movies as a whole. Amazon seems to only describe the version of Spiderman 3. I was hoping they would all be HD and not like all the previous movies on one BR disc or something like that.

Yeah, I don't get the black bars thing.....at least with my 50" TV they aren't as annoying as on the 28" one. :p

[HollandX]

Here are two dumb questions.....

Are all the discs in the Spiderman set in HD? The Amazon description doesn't make that terribly clear, though I assume they are. I just wanted to make sure.

Also, why do all of my movies still have the black bars on the top and bottom of my widescreen TV? I thought that movies weren't supposed to have them, but I am apparently wrong.


1.) I don't believe the Spidey box details have been revealed yet. Of course all 3 movise are in HD with uncompressed audio. My GUESS would be much of (if not all of) the extras will be in HD.

2.) All movies are filmed at different sizes. Here in America, the most common ratios are 1.85:1 and 2.40:1. When a movie is filmed at 1.85:1 will you see no bars. When the first number is bigger (no matter how much bigger) you will see bars. Hey... imagine how much bigger the bars would be on a 1.33:1 full screen tv! To find out what ratio a movie was filmed in, search for the movie at www.imdb.com and click "techical specs." I think Amazon lists ratios in its product listings pages also.

[ewto16]

1.) I don't believe the Spidey box details have been revealed yet. Of course all 3 movise are in HD with uncompressed audio. My GUESS would be much of (if not all of) the extras will be in HD.

2.) All movies are filmed at different sizes. Here in America, the most common ratios are 1.85:1 and 2.40:1. When a movie is filmed at 1.85:1 will you see no bars. When the first number is bigger (no matter how much bigger) you will see bars. Hey... imagine how much bigger the bars would be on a 1.33:1 full screen tv! To find out what ratio a movie was filmed in, search for the movie at www.imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com) and click "techical specs." I think Amazon lists ratios in its product listings pages also.

OK, thanks for the info on the Spidey set. I figured that was how it would be, but I wanted to be sure. Amazon just talks about the third movie, so I thought it might be something odd.

Are any movies filmed in 1.85:1? Everything I see is always 2.40:1 or 2.35:1.

[PrimeBane]

I know Van Helsing and Children of Men are 1.85:1

[MPCanes]

OK, thanks for the info on the Spidey set. I figured that was how it would be, but I wanted to be sure. Amazon just talks about the third movie, so I thought it might be something odd.

Are any movies filmed in 1.85:1? Everything I see is always 2.40:1 or 2.35:1.

Lots and lots of movies are 1.85:1. As a matter of fact, most are - scope, or 2.35:1, is the rarer of the two formats (but not much rarer - probably a 65/35 split at the very most).

[HollandX]

As a general rule of thumb, most comedies are 1.85:1.

If you watch any TV show in HD (ie Sopranos, Prison Break, 24, Gilmore Girls), they're all 1.85:1.

Plus if you watch any movies in HD on channels like TNT... regardless what the movie has been filmed in (like 2.35:1), it's been cropped to 1.85:1 to fit your screen.

Yes, TV channels still crop movies to fit your screen. It's a brutal practice.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Quick question for you guys. Im about to buy a Sony STR-DG810 Reciever. I've done some research and it seems pretty sturdy spec wise. I wanted to know what you guys thought of it or if any of you guys own one

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Monoprice rocks, I just ordered 3 6ft HDMI cables and 3 6ft Toslink Optical Cables for $29 shipped

[JaylisJayP]

Monoprice rocks, I just ordered 3 6ft HDMI cables and 3 6ft Toslink Optical Cables for $29 shipped

makes you shake your head that much more at the prices at Circuit City.

[HollandX]

Quick question for you guys. Im about to buy a Sony DRG910 Reciever. I've done some research and it seems pretty sturdy spec wise. I wanted to know what you guys thought of it or if any of you guys own one

I must be on crack, as a google search of "Sony DRG910" yields no results.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I must be on crack, as a google search of "Sony DRG910" yields no results.

Sorry I meant the sony STR-DG810

[HollandX]

Sorry I meant the sony STR-DG810

Any way you can spring for one of the new Onkyos? tx-sr605? or sr575 or 505 if you have to?

Sony not looking so hot.

http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/sony-str-dg810/4505-6466_7-32331246.html

[freezerfuel]

Monoprice rocks, I just ordered 3 6ft HDMI cables and 3 6ft Toslink Optical Cables for $29 shipped

Yeah, their prices are awesome. Reminds me I still need to place an order for a crapload of speaker wire.

I watched A Scanner Darkly HD DVD and what a fckued up movie but it was pretty good, what really blew me away was the picture... AWESSOOOMMME.

[PrimeBane]

It was definately an interesting movie... I need to watch it again.

But yes, the PQ is amazing. :D

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Well I think im sold on the TX-SR575. I wanted the Sony for the 3 HDMI inputs for the price it seemed pretty good. I did read some reviews on the Sony on the Avs forum and didnt hear alot of neg's about it.

I hope The 575 is compatable with my other componets. Current set-up:

HD-A20
PS3 60 Gig
57" Mits DLP
Cox HD-DVR (might be getting Dishnetwork when we move)

[PrimeBane]

FYI, HD Addicts (www.hdaddicts.com) is having a 2 day sale August 22nd and 23rd.

There's reduced prices on movies in both formats, imports and there's free shipping. :)

[PrimeBane]

I mainly want to toss this one out to the BD only folks... with the Paramount announcement, do you have plans to buy an HD DVD player now or will you stick it out with BD?

[oaktown2000]

I planned on eventually getting an HD-DVD player all along....the news of Paramount hasn't made my choice any different.


Also.......has anyone seen a copy of Road Warrior on Blu-Ray locally.....looking to hunt this one down.

[PrimeBane]

http://www.hdaddicts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=59&products_id=452

Free shipping to the US today and tomorrow... price is the same as Amazon.com :)

[HollandX]

is there a list of just what's on sale?

i'm lazy :(

[PrimeBane]

Here's the specials all together... you will have to click a few times though.

http://www.hdaddicts.com/catalog/specials.php

lazy ass :p

[ewto16]

I mainly want to toss this one out to the BD only folks... with the Paramount announcement, do you have plans to buy an HD DVD player now or will you stick it out with BD?

I thought about it, but I'm not going to. I don't really want to spend $300 on a HD-DVD player just to watch one movie. I already have an upconverting DVD player, so I can't even use that to justify part of the cost. Sadly, I'll just have to get the DVD version.

Honestly, I wouldn't even have a Blu-Ray player if I didn't own a PS3. The whole format war really turns me off. I would be one of those people on the fence until it all got settled out.

[HollandX]

Here's the specials all together... you will have to click a few times though.

http://www.hdaddicts.com/catalog/specials.php

lazy ass :p

:D

[PrimeBane]

So the latest RUMOR is that Warner has been offered $225 mil to go HD DVD exclusive.

Boy would that ever make things interesting... although after Warner's previous statements after the release of 300, I can see them being happy staying neutral.

[HollandX]

Bribes are awesome.

If you were going to abandon one, why would it be BD?

Announcement: BD just outsold HD DVD 3 to 1

<fast forward a month>

Studio: We're not making BD anymore

Huh? There is no legit consumer reason for that.

Just a suitcase full of cash.

[oaktown2000]

Correct me if I'm wrong....but these so called "exclusivity" contracts are not forever...aren't they for just 1 year.

I think HD-DVD is just trying to force it's hand into getting more players into households for the next 12-18 months....then they will not re-new these multi-million dollar exclusive contracts

[PrimeBane]

Bribes are awesome.

If you were going to abandon one, why would it be BD?

Because the BDA hasn't come knocking with a suitcase full of cash?

Currently no one is making money on HD... a big payout on an exclusive deal makes it way easier to put out the material.

[PrimeBane]

Transformers Preorder $25.95 now at HDAddicts.com... free shipping as well.

http://www.hdaddicts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=833

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Well I picked up the Onkyo 505 tonight. This thing should rock. All the glory of 1080p :D

[JaylisJayP]

the only problem with HDAddicts for me is that it takes a while to get here in south florida.

[grif32]

OT: Picked up Ninja Gaden for the PS3. Thats on bad azz game. Only played for about 1 hr last night. Well play alot this weekend.

knoxville - Nice p/u on the onkyo..

[oaktown2000]

Well....I go my PS3 last night and did a quick set-up....

I still need to get cables.....but even with the crappy A/V they supply you with....I could see a huge difference between Blu-Ray and DVD. I popped "Curse of the Black Pearl" into both....my DVD player....and my PS3. I paused both of them...then "forwarded" to the next chapter and compared the screen caps........literally night and day....and this was just with the 480 output......can't wait to get some cables and then really see a difference.

[HollandX]

spider-man WHAT THE F)(*#$#()FK#$(UI$(%UR@W(#RK(@#$#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But while the box set will roll out the red carpet for 'Spider-Man 3,' featuring identical specs to the concurrently-released stand-alone Blu-ray edition of the movie (which includes a bonus disc filled with extras, plus PCM 5.1 surround and Dolby TrueHD audio tracks), the first two Spider-Man flicks will come significantly less feature-packed.

Neither 'Spider-Man' nor 'Spider-Man 2' will include any of the bonus features from their original DVD releases, and -- in a first for Sony -- neither will include support for PCM audio. Instead, both 'Spider-Man' and 'Spider-Man 2' will contain Dolby TrueHD 5.1 surround tracks only.

For high-def fans of 'Spider-Man 2,' however, all is not lost. The 'High-Def Trilogy' will contain both the theatrical version of the sequel and 'Spider-Man 2.1,' an extended version of the film that was subsequently released on video. Viewers will be able to choose each seamlessly via the Blu-ray format's branching technology for uninterrupted playback.

[ewto16]

Well....I go my PS3 last night and did a quick set-up....

I still need to get cables.....but even with the crappy A/V they supply you with....I could see a huge difference between Blu-Ray and DVD. I popped "Curse of the Black Pearl" into both....my DVD player....and my PS3. I paused both of them...then "forwarded" to the next chapter and compared the screen caps........literally night and day....and this was just with the 480 output......can't wait to get some cables and then really see a difference.

Get your cables from monoprice.com. Don't waste your money on the overpriced Monster cables. Glad you like the PS3 so far. Now get a game for it.

[ewto16]

Can the HD association keep bleeding money to all these studios?

What is everyone's opinion on them basically paying off studios for exclusivity? Does that make the HD camp seem desperate to you? It strikes me as a last ditch move to save their format and regain market share.

[freezerfuel]

Can the HD association keep bleeding money to all these studios?

What is everyone's opinion on them basically paying off studios for exclusivity? Does that make the HD camp seem desperate to you? It strikes me as a last ditch move to save their format and regain market share.

All is fair in love and war and this, my friend, is war. If the HD DVD camp can buy every studio (except Sony lol) then I say DO IT. Besides, Blu-ray has playing hardball for so long it's good to see HD DVD stand up and not go out like a *****, for a while I was wondering if they were even trying anymore. It's pretty obvious they are now. :D

[oaktown2000]

Can the HD association keep bleeding money to all these studios? If Microsoft is helping with the push....the money would mean absolutely nothing to them.

Does that make the HD camp seem desperate to you? Yes...yes it does.

It strikes me as a last ditch move to save their format and regain market share.Like I stated earlier....I think this is a move where they know they are going to lose money...but are doing it in the hopes that more households will go out and get one of their players so that in the future...when they do not have those exclusives...they can still compete

[freezerfuel]

Todays HD DVD buys:

Hot Fuzz
World Trade Center
Swordfish
The Italian Job

CANADIANS: Hot Fuzz is $25.83 at Wal-Mart, that's the cheapest I've ever seen a Combo disc 'round these parts.

[ewto16]

No, I didn't actually. I thought they were part of the group that was behind all the Blu-Ray support from the beginning with Sony. Like how Toshiba and Microsoft are with HD. Is that not the case?

This made more sense when I quoted Grif....:confused:

[civictyperboy]

Hey everyone, I am moving into a new apartment in a couple of weeks, anyone ever use any flat speaker wire? I have a large living room (18'10 x 16'8) and it's hardwood floors, and I can't drill holes or lift the floor, so I am thinking a large area rug and running the speaker cable under that unless someone has some better idea

[oaktown2000]

Hey everyone, I am moving into a new apartment in a couple of weeks, anyone ever use any flat speaker wire? I have a large living room (18'10 x 16'8) and it's hardwood floors, and I can't drill holes or lift the floor, so I am thinking a large area rug and running the speaker cable under that unless someone has some better idea


wireless speakers :confused:

[civictyperboy]

I have a nice set of canton speakers, I do not think they can become wireless

[ewto16]

Can the HD association keep bleeding money to all these studios? If Microsoft is helping with the push....the money would mean absolutely nothing to them.

Does that make the HD camp seem desperate to you? Yes...yes it does.

It strikes me as a last ditch move to save their format and regain market share.Like I stated earlier....I think this is a move where they know they are going to lose money...but are doing it in the hopes that more households will go out and get one of their players so that in the future...when they do not have those exclusives...they can still compete

Right, I agree that if MS is helping then the money doesn't matter. I don't disagree with their strategy, other than the fact that I can't get Transformers on Blu-Ray now. According to everything I see, they were losing market share to Blu-Ray pretty quickly, so they needed to do something.

I just wondered if throwing $150 mil and possilby another $225mil (as reported by HollandX) seemed deperate to anyone else like it does to me. Espeically when they aren't getting the deals for more than a year and a half so far.

How many HD-DVD players do you think will get sold based on this most recent announcement? Will that many people run out to buy one just to see Transformers, Shrek 3, and whatever else on HD-DVD?

[PrimeBane]

Remember, that money also buys the licensing rights for characters. It's believed that Shrek will be the face for HD DVD this fall for the big holiday season sales push. I imagine Transformers will be used as well.

The Shrek/TF one-two is a nice counter to the BDA's Spiderman/Pirates offerings.

[JaylisJayP]

Remember, that money also buys the licensing rights for characters. It's believed that Shrek will be the face for HD DVD this fall for the big holiday season sales push. I imagine Transformers will be used as well.

The Shrek/TF one-two is a nice counter to the BDA's Spiderman/Pirates offerings.

good point. Pirates will sell well (I'll be buying it), i have my questions about spiderman, though. I think a lot of people hated it in the theaters, and it's got a $49.99 MSRP, which is insane. I know most retailers will have it for less, but imagine someone on the fence going into FYE and seeing it for $44.99 there...ouch.

[freezerfuel]

What a crazy time to be a home theatre enthusiast lol. I wonder what's going to happen next? Or if these formats will even catch on with the general public. If they don't, then what? DVD, downloading, Holographic disc? We've pretty much reached that point where picture and sound can not be improved (depending on the disc) haven't we?... So will the next stage in evolution be all about convenience? ie downloading/VOD? So many questions. I am looking forward to what happens in the future. :D

[PrimeBane]

good point. Pirates will sell well (I'll be buying it), i have my questions about spiderman, though. I think a lot of people hated it in the theaters, and it's got a $49.99 MSRP, which is insane. I know most retailers will have it for less, but imagine someone on the fence going into FYE and seeing it for $44.99 there...ouch.

I thought the same about SM... but look at how well it did at the box office. Whether people liked it or not, it's going to sell VERY well in both DVD and BD.

Although judging by preorders, most BD folk are buying the boxed set.

[Hanky Panky]

Although judging by preorders, most BD folk are buying the boxed set.

I've typically bought those collector box editions for SM 1& 2 on dvd, so I might hold off on a BD box set if they release something for SM3 on dvd with some extra goodies.

http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/b1/13/f291_1.JPG

http://i21.ebayimg.com/05/c/06/bc/76/12_8.JPG

[PrimeBane]

Looks like amazon put up BSG season 1 and Knocked up for preorder today... man, there's so much to get leading up to Christmas. :D

[PrimeBane]

Todays HD DVD buys:

Hot Fuzz
World Trade Center
Swordfish
The Italian Job

CANADIANS: Hot Fuzz is $25.83 at Wal-Mart, that's the cheapest I've ever seen a Combo disc 'round these parts.

Damn... I price checked a copy last week and it was $39.99... perhaps I'll check again, although I do have a used copy on the way. :)

[freezerfuel]

Damn... I price checked a copy last week and it was $39.99... perhaps I'll check again, although I do have a used copy on the way. :)

Huh, after reading this I double checked the reciept and sure enough I was charged $39.83 for it but the sticker on the case says $25.83. Good thing I haven't opened it yet. I'll take it back and see if they'll give me back the difference. Bummer, here I thought Combo's were actually going down in price. :(

[dayday6]

I've typically bought those collector box editions for SM 1& 2 on dvd, so I might hold off on a BD box set if they release something for SM3 on dvd with some extra goodies.

http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/b1/13/f291_1.JPG

http://i21.ebayimg.com/05/c/06/bc/76/12_8.JPG

SM1 collector's set was good, SM2 collector's set sucked in comparison.

[dayday6]

I mainly want to toss this one out to the BD only folks... with the Paramount announcement, do you have plans to buy an HD DVD player now or will you stick it out with BD?


No I have no plan on buying a HD-DVD player anytime soon. If I didn't have a PS3 I wouldn't have bought a Blu-ray player either, it was the combo of the functions that sold me. I would not have bought a PS3 at launch either if it didn't play Blu-ray.

[PrimeBane]

Huh, after reading this I double checked the reciept and sure enough I was charged $39.83 for it but the sticker on the case says $25.83. Good thing I haven't opened it yet. I'll take it back and see if they'll give me back the difference. Bummer, here I thought Combo's were actually going down in price. :(

Yup... go get some money back. :)

http://smartcanucks.ca/canadian-coupons-discounts-canada/canadian-code-of-practice-scanner-price-accuracy/

Apparently WM Canada has been pricing a few Universal HD DVDS wrong lately.

[PrimeBane]

28 Weeks Later announced by Fox :)

And not official yet, but Anchorman and Old School should be coming soon for HD DVD from Paramount/Dreamworks. :)

[dayday6]

28 Weeks Later announced by Fox :)

And not official yet, but Anchorman and Old School should be coming soon for HD DVD from Paramount/Dreamworks. :)

Really though, would a HD-DVD version of those 2 movies be that much better than an upconverted DVD version?

In my eyes no. Even when I buy Blu-ray, it is only something that would really enhance the experience.

[freezerfuel]

Yup... go get some money back. :)

http://smartcanucks.ca/canadian-coupons-discounts-canada/canadian-code-of-practice-scanner-price-accuracy/

Apparently WM Canada has been pricing a few Universal HD DVDS wrong lately.

Heh, well I guess I may still get a good deal on Hot Fuzz after all. Excellent, thanks for the link.

[PrimeBane]

Really though, would a HD-DVD version of those 2 movies be that much better than an upconverted DVD version?

In my eyes no. Even when I buy Blu-ray, it is only something that would really enhance the experience.

It will really depend on the quality of the transfer.

But I agree, comedies aren't always the best for showing off HD.

[ewto16]

good point. Pirates will sell well (I'll be buying it), i have my questions about spiderman, though. I think a lot of people hated it in the theaters, and it's got a $49.99 MSRP, which is insane. I know most retailers will have it for less, but imagine someone on the fence going into FYE and seeing it for $44.99 there...ouch.

Agreed!! SM3 blew. I'll probably ask for it for Christmas, but I won't drop my own cash on it. Honestly, I'll still be on the fence about it, since I'll never watch it anyway as it was such utter crap.

Ruined, I tell ya, ruined. :(

[ewto16]

Looking for a Harmony remote for my Father in law for Christmas. Never hurts to start looking early. Let me know if you guys happen to see a deal. Thanks!!

[grif32]

Looking for a Harmony remote for my Father in law for Christmas. Never hurts to start looking early. Let me know if you guys happen to see a deal. Thanks!!

Check out the Harmony 880. Amazing remote. Then again any of the Harmony are great remotes.

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

I thought the same about SM... but look at how well it did at the box office. Whether people liked it or not, it's going to sell VERY well in both DVD and BD.

Although judging by preorders, most BD folk are buying the boxed set.

i might go that same route...i really enjoyed 1 and 2, never saw 3.

[JaylisJayP]

It will really depend on the quality of the transfer.

But I agree, comedies aren't always the best for showing off HD.

Some comedies look amazing. (Hot Fuzz HD DVD, Waiting Blu-ray, even Trading Places)...but yeah, many of them are marginal upgrades.

[Hanky Panky]

Well, the reality is these movies were shot on film and will never quite compare to the digital stuff coming out now.

[JaylisJayP]

true...but many of them do look a heck of a lot better..

[PrimeBane]

http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9689600

POV from an economist

[JaylisJayP]

Just FYI for anyone interested....Microsoft's response to the payoff claims.

Hello everyone,

My name is Kevin Collins and I have worked for Microsoft for the last 14 years working on database technology (Jet and SQL Mobile). I have been involved in HD DVD for almost three years; from the HD DVD Video specification process in the DVD Forum to current promotion of HD DVD features. I met a lot of you with the HTF chat in January of this year and hope to do another chat when my schedule permits to have more ongoing discussions. For those that don’t know me, I am a home theater enthusiast. Starting in 1992 I had a Pioneer laser disc player, 1994 I had a Pioneer Elite 51” RPTV, in 1997 I had the Sony DVD player. In 1999 I moved to watching DVD’s on a HTPC on a Sony G70 on a 8ft wide Stewart Filmscreen Studio Tek 130 screen and currently view HD content on a Marantz 1080P DLP PJ with BOTH formats on a Stewart Filmscreen Gray Hawk RS screen. So, even though I work at Microsoft, I have been a home theater enthusiast well before I started on HD DVD at Microsoft.

At any rate, since I am constantly traveling for HD DVD I haven't had time to become active on this forum. I’m currently on vacation but something has come up that even my wife hasn’t been able to prevent me from responding to. It has to do with posts regarding why and how Microsoft supports HD DVD. Here is an example of what I am referring to:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa141.html#dp
“8/20/07 -- Well... the high-definition format war just got more confusing for consumers, and you can thank the hubris of the folks at Microsoft for it. Their HD-DVD format (because I'm sorry, can anyone really say it still belongs to Toshiba at this point?) badly needed a shot in the arm going into the holiday season, and just got it thanks to suitcases full of cash from the Microsoft camp”

I want to go on the record stating that Microsoft did not provide any financial incentives to Paramount/Dreamworks recent decision to support HD DVD. This type of “reporting” amazes me and I challenge anyone to provide proof around these statements. They are unfounded and inaccurate.

I’m not writing this to debate opinions on why one format will or will not prevail. I’m a writing this to provide some factual information on why and how Microsoft supports HD DVD to hopefully put to rest some of the incorrect information I see online.

Originally Microsoft supported BOTH formats, then two CES’s ago, Microsoft changed to only supporting HD DVD for the following three reasons:
1) Mandatory Managed copy. BD has since also supported this and we are all waiting on the “final agreement” to be completed from AACS.
2) Guaranteed hardware features on ALL HD DVD players. The mandatory features here being persistent storage, secondary video decoder and networking. Microsoft simply believes, as do the studios, including Disney, that interactivity is a reason for consumers to move from DVD. Please reference this document for reasons that the Warner Home Video and Disney put together in the DVD Forum: http://www.dvdforum.org/images/Requi...0HD%20DVD%20Vi deo%20Application-July2005.pdf. Warner Home Video proves this out by releasing different features in 300 and Blood Diamond (networking – sharing scenes with friends and PIP) and Paramount did it with MI:3 last year with PIP only in the HD DVD version.
3) Cheaper, higher yield and greater availability of replication. A perfect case point for this is the European market where there are a multitude of HD DVD titles that are only available from the BD studios in the US. The reason for this? Cheaper replication costs and the ability to use local replicators to produce discs. BD50 discs are only produced at two plants in the world (Terre Haute, IN and Japan). Thanks to no region control in HD DVD we can all legally enjoy “Mr & Mrs Smith”, “The Prestige” and others from sites http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/hd-dvds-c-35.html and http://amazon.co.uk/s******sr_st/203-...t=-releasedate.

For the record, Microsoft’s involvement in HD DVD rotates around supporting the format by:
1) Xbox 360 HD DVD drive
2) VC-1 support for BOTH formats
3) HDi support
4) Work in the DVD Forum from working groups up to the steering committee.

This type of support shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone as this is what Microsoft has historically done, support developers to use tools to provide the best experience for their customers.

While a lot of people disagree with data posted on Harry Knowles site (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...oap060107.html) Harry accurately reported why Paramount is supporting HD DVD moving forward when he said (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33722):
“For those of us consuming these products - it's easy to simply believe decisions are made due to just advertising incentives, but when you speak to the technology guys inside these studios - you hear that HD DVD is cheaper, serves the technological needs of the High Definition format, that the programming languages are an extension of the established DVD format - so it is easier for them to work with. This decision is about more than an intial Toshiba advertising incentive - the decision was made at a tech level, an economic level and about a cost delivery level to the public. Paramount made this decision from the tech guys up.”

I hope this clears up the misinformation that has been reported regarding Microsoft’s involvement in the Paramount/Dreamworks decision or in the “rumored” involvement with Warner. For the record, I respect Bill in that we are both enthusiast from the days of laser discs and we are both interested in seeing movies in HD the way that they were originally on film. In the meantime, I look forward to continue showing everyone, with shipping titles, why Microsoft believes in HD DVD.

Best,

- kevin

[PrimeBane]

Just read that on hdd... good read. MS takes a lot of justified flak, but not in this case.

[ewto16]

“For those of us consuming these products - it's easy to simply believe decisions are made due to just advertising incentives, but when you speak to the technology guys inside these studios - you hear that HD DVD is cheaper, serves the technological needs of the High Definition format, that the programming languages are an extension of the established DVD format - so it is easier for them to work with. This decision is about more than an intial Toshiba advertising incentive - the decision was made at a tech level, an economic level and about a cost delivery level to the public. Paramount made this decision from the tech guys up.”

I guess I still find it hard to believe that the tech guys that program the menu features and whatever else on a HD-DVD have enough pull to get the bosses of the studio to say they only want to support HD-DVD.

Let's face it, those guys didn't get to become rich studio owners by being dumb and giving things away for free. They asked for cash and other incentives and got it.

Maybe HD-DVD really is the better format. I have no idea. But I'm real sure they got something ($$$$) in return for their loyalty.

[oaktown2000]

I really don't care either way.....just get your azzes in gear and start putting out more titles...either in Blu-Ray or HD-DVD......namely the LOTR trilogy

[PrimeBane]

They're working on LotR... I imagine we'll see it next year. :)

[oaktown2000]

you ******** know it

;)

[freezerfuel]

I really don't care either way.....just get your azzes in gear and start putting out more titles...either in Blu-Ray or HD-DVD......namely the LOTR trilogy

Hellz yeah! (not a fan of LOTR but more titles is a good thing)

[JaylisJayP]

Found Dawn of the Dead HD DVD early at FYE today...can't wait to pop that in this weekend.

[imaginegrafix]

Can you order HD DVD's from Amazon.co.uk and have them delivered to the U.S.?

Just wondering for titles like Harry Potter......

[PrimeBane]

Yup... or you can order them from sites in the US and Canada that have already imported them.

fyi, all the Harry Potters's are supposed to be released for the holiday season in a boxed set.

[PrimeBane]

5 Reasons why you should choose plasma over lcd

http://www.digitalhome.ca/content/view/1961/206/

A very interesting read, especially on burn-in. :)

[DanGreddy]

Thinking about getting a HD DVD player now, but worried Blu Ray is going to win maybe. This is the only issue I have I guess. I have a 360, not the Elite so I'm missing out HDMI quality unless I put the money out. What do you think is the best way to go?

[dayday6]

I have been out of the HD world for a month now, my Bravia is in the shop for not powering on, and then screen replacement for a bunch of dead pixels in the corner. I should be getting it back this week.:(

[MPCanes]

Thinking about getting a HD DVD player now, but worried Blu Ray is going to win maybe. This is the only issue I have I guess. I have a 360, not the Elite so I'm missing out HDMI quality unless I put the money out. What do you think is the best way to go?

There really isn't such a thing as "HDMI quality", unless you are referring to 1080p - which can be done on any 360 via VGA cables (someone can correct me if I'm wrong, which I may well be). Even then, 720p HD-DVD's look spectacular.

I say go for it. You can currently get the HD-DVD player for 179.99 w/o tax from amazon, with 2 free movies up front, + you send away for 5 more movies. A great deal, in my opinion. And, even if HD-DVD loses the war, your discs aren't going to be rendered useless.

[PrimeBane]

I agree with MPCanes... even if HD DVD is on the losing end, that's a pretty small investment to enjoy HD movies now :)

[grif32]

The add-on is way over priced. I would look into the A-2 from toshiba or wait for the new toshiba's to arrive.. No way I would pay $179.00 for the add-on maybe $129.00.. Not now the prices for standalones are dropping like a rock and the new 3rd gen players are coming out

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

Thinking about getting a HD DVD player now, but worried Blu Ray is going to win maybe. This is the only issue I have I guess. I have a 360, not the Elite so I'm missing out HDMI quality unless I put the money out. What do you think is the best way to go?

With the Paramount/Dreamworks deal, neither side is going to lose now. By the time enough people start buying these to where the studios actually make money, there will be dual-format players for a reasonable price and it'll all work on everything....more or less.

[JaylisJayP]

Dawn of the Dead, for anyone interested....about 2/3 of the movie is 4.5/5 PQ, and the other third is about 3/5 in terms of sharpness and detail. There's also a slight layer of grain throughout...but I was very happy with it. Definitely worth picking up if you enjoyed the movie.

[JaylisJayP]

Picked up The Prestige and The Getaway blu-rays today....The Getaway looks surprisingly good for a movie that old.

[DEN7ER]

anyone have "Pirates 2" on Blu-Ray? i have the DVD but am wondering if its worth the upgrade... :confused:

i'm itchin to watch it tonight and am on the fence about running out to the store.

[razkazz]

I haven't seen it myself, but highdefdigest.com says the Pirates movies are some of the best looking blu-rays out there--you should definitely get the blu-ray if you're a fan of the movie.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I might be able to find you a used copy of POTC 2 for $15.99

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Picked up a few used HD/BD movies this weekend,

HD
Casablaca $15.99
Troy $15.99
U-571 $8.00

BD
Van Wilder $9.99
Perfect Stranger $15.99
Wild Hogs $15.99

[DEN7ER]

haha well i went out and got it. :D

its seems like every review i read suggest it like the best bd title out and really showcases the capabilities of blu-ray. cant wait to pop it in on my 1080p 60" sony. i'll post some screens later?

thanks knoxvill, but i couldn't wait. :o :)

[JaylisJayP]

anyone have "Pirates 2" on Blu-Ray? i have the DVD but am wondering if its worth the upgrade... :confused:

i'm itchin to watch it tonight and am on the fence about running out to the store.

it's insanely awesome in my opinion.....5/5 PQ without a doubt

[WingNut 25]

I'm watching it now!

[freezerfuel]

I wouldn't mind upgrading Dawn of the Dead from DVD but I probably won't, at least not for a while. It's too bad there isn't a place a person could trade 2-3 DVD's for a HD movie. Wishful thinking I guess.

[PrimeBane]

A quick thanks to freezerfuel... after he meantioned he got Hot Fuzz for cheap at WM, I checked out the HD DVDs at my local. Found Chronicles of Rid**** for $19.83 :D

[freezerfuel]

A quick thanks to freezerfuel... after he meantioned he got Hot Fuzz for cheap at WM, I checked out the HD DVDs at my local. Found Chronicles of Rid**** for $19.83 :D

Hehe, I did get $15 back for Hot Fuzz thanks to you so it's no problem. :D Hope I can find more titles priced way cheaper than they should be, good way to save money.

[PrimeBane]

Oddly enough, it just seems to be Universal titles... I think I'll stop at another WM tonight to see what I can find. :D

[PrimeBane]

Buy 2, get 1 free sale at Amazon.com... it seems to be a crapshoot with the titles though. They could include:

300 HD DVD
Casino
Goodfellas
Casablanca
Fast & the Furious
Van Helsing
Fear and Loathing
Mallrats
Shaun of the Dead
Pitch Black
The Warriors
TMNT
Blood Diamond
Sneakers
Superman - The Movie
Blue Planet [IMAX]
The Mummy
Bourne Supremacy
Batman Begins
Bourne Identity
Big Lebowski
V for Vendetta
Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas
Casino

BRD (Blu-ray)
X-men Last Stand
Kingdom Of Heaven
Into the Blue
"Saw [Blu-ray]"
"Underworld - Evolution (Blu-ray)"
"American Psycho [Blu-ray]"
"Dinosaur [Blu-ray]"
"Lethal Weapon [Blu-ray]"
"The Searchers (Blu-Ray)"
"Invincible [Blu-ray]"
"Saw III (Unrated Edition) [Blu-ray]"
"Chicken Little [Blu-ray]"
"Rocky Balboa [Blu-ray]"
"Rio Bravo [Blu-ray]"
"The Fifth Element (Remastered) [Blu-ray]"
The Usual Suspects [Blu-ray]
Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut) [Blu-ray]
Night at the Museum [Blu-ray]
The Departed [Blu-ray]

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

Buy 2, get 1 free sale at Amazon.com... it seems to be a crapshoot with the titles though. They could include:

300 HD DVD
Casino
Goodfellas
Casablanca
Fast & the Furious
Van Helsing
Fear and Loathing
Mallrats
Shaun of the Dead
Pitch Black
The Warriors
TMNT
Blood Diamond
Sneakers
Superman - The Movie
Blue Planet [IMAX]
The Mummy
Bourne Supremacy
Batman Begins
Bourne Identity
Big Lebowski
V for Vendetta
Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas
Casino

BRD (Blu-ray)
X-men Last Stand
Kingdom Of Heaven
Into the Blue
"Saw [Blu-ray]"
"Underworld - Evolution (Blu-ray)"
"American Psycho [Blu-ray]"
"Dinosaur [Blu-ray]"
"Lethal Weapon [Blu-ray]"
"The Searchers (Blu-Ray)"
"Invincible [Blu-ray]"
"Saw III (Unrated Edition) [Blu-ray]"
"Chicken Little [Blu-ray]"
"Rocky Balboa [Blu-ray]"
"Rio Bravo [Blu-ray]"
"The Fifth Element (Remastered) [Blu-ray]"
The Usual Suspects [Blu-ray]
Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut) [Blu-ray]
Night at the Museum [Blu-ray]
The Departed [Blu-ray]

Does it have to be just one format? Or can you mix and match?

[PrimeBane]

Not sure... I haven't tried to mix and match yet.

[JaylisJayP]

i got the deal to work for me....the mix 'n match did NOT, though...at least for me.

Got on HD DVD:

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
The Deer Hunter
Poseidon

All for $44 shipped.

Then I went on half.com and got Asault on Precinct 13 HD DVD for $17 dlvd....if for no other reason than because I was mad it wasn't part of the Amazon deal :)

OK....I'm done for the week :)

[HollandX]

Not sure... I haven't tried to mix and match yet.

is there a direct link for this offer? or it just magically happens in your cart??

[grif32]

I recieved "Are we done yet" and Wild Hogs on Blu Ray. Got them cheap. Are these movies any good?

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

there's no direct link...it happens when you...

1) put items in your cart (do not do the 1 click purchase thing)
2) View your cart
3) Proceed to checkout - then on this next page before placing your order, it should show the discount.

[PrimeBane]

Like Jaylis said... it shows up on the very last screen before you submit the order.

In other news, I got my Heroes HD DVD set today... I only wish I had time to watch an episode or two tonight.

[PrimeBane]

Well, 3 HD DVDs and 3 BDs work... $91.46 US shipped for 6 movies.

Amazon is going to sell a PILE of movies with this promo.

[PrimeBane]

Can't mix and match... looks like it has be 3 of either format.

[ewto16]

If only there were a second movie to go with X3.....

[PrimeBane]

Complete HD DVD List for buy 2 get 1 free deal.

300 (Combo HD DVD and Standard DVD) [HD DVD] (2007)
12 Monkeys [HD DVD] (1995)
The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) [HD DVD] (1938)
Backdraft (HD DVD) (1991)
Batman Begins [HD DVD] (2005)
Beerfest (Unrated) [HD DVD] (2006)
Blood Diamond [HD DVD] (2006)
Blue Planet (IMAX) [HD DVD] (1993)
Casablanca [HD DVD] (1942)
Casino (HD DVD) (1995)
Charlie & the Chocolate Factory [HD DVD] (2005)
The Departed (Combo HD DVD and Standard DVD) [HD DVD] (2006)
Doom [HD DVD] (2005)
Dune (1984) [HD DVD] (1984)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind [HD DVD] (2004)
Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas (HD DVD) (1998)
Field of Dreams [HD DVD] (1989)
Forbidden Planet [HD DVD] (1956)
The Fountain (Combo HD DVD and Standard DVD) [HD DVD] (2006)
Friday Night Lights [HD DVD] (2004)
Goodfellas [HD DVD] (1990)
Happy Feet (Combo HD DVD and Standard DVD) [HD DVD] (2006)
Happy Gilmore (HD DVD) (1996)
The Last Samurai [HD DVD] (2003)
Letters from Iwo Jima (Combo HD DVD and Standard DVD) [HD DVD] (2006)
Mallrats [HD DVD] (1995)
March of the Penguins [HD DVD] (2005)
Meet the Parents [HD DVD] (2000)
The Phantom of the Opera (Special Edition) [HD DVD] (2004)
Pitch Black (Unrated) [HD DVD] (2000)
Poseidon [HD DVD] (2006)
Purple Rain [HD DVD] (1984)
Ray (2004)
The Road Warrior [HD DVD] (1981)
A Scanner Darkly [HD DVD] (2006)
The Searchers [HD-DVD] (1956)
Serenity [HD DVD] (2005)
Shaun of the Dead [HD DVD] (2004)
Smokey and the Bandit [HD DVD] (1977)
Superman - The Movie [HD DVD] (1978)
Terminator 3 - Rise of the Machines [HD DVD] (2003)
The 40-Year-Old Virgin (Unrated Special Edition) [HD DVD] (2005)
The Big Lebowski [HD DVD] (1998)
The Bourne Supremacy [HD DVD] (2004)
The Deer Hunter [HD DVD] (1978)
Fast & Furious (HD DVD) (2001)
The Game [HD DVD] (1997)
The Mummy [HD DVD] (1999)
Tim Burton's Corpse Bride [HD DVD] (2005)
TMNT (Combo HD DVD and Standard DVD) [HD DVD] (2007)
Troy [HD DVD] (2004)
Unforgiven [HD DVD] (1992)
V for Vendetta [HD DVD] (2006)
Van Helsing [HD DVD] (2004)

[PrimeBane]

Complet BD list part 1

Blu-Ray
300 [Blu-ray] (2007)
AVP - Alien Vs. Predator [Blu-ray] (2004)
Mel Gibson's Apocalypto [Blu-ray] (2006)
Basic Instinct [Blu-ray] (1992)
Beerfest (Unrated) [Blu-ray] (2006)
Black Hawk Down [Blu-ray] (2001)
Blazing Saddles [Blu-ray] (1974)
Blood Diamond [Blu-ray] (2006)
Blue Planet (IMAX) [Blu-ray] (1993)
Bridge to Terabithia [Blu-ray] (2007)
Bulletproof Monk [Blu-ray] (2003)
Bullitt [Blu-ray] (1968)
Casino Royale [Blu-ray] (2006)
Chicken Little [Blu-ray] (2005)
Click [Blu-ray] (2006)
The Covenant [Blu-ray] (2006)
Crank [Blu-ray] (2006)
Curse of the Golden Flower [Blu-ray] (2006)
Deja Vu [Blu-ray] (2006)
The Departed [Blu-ray] (2006)
The Devil's Rejects [Blu-ray] (2005)
Dinosaur [Blu-ray] (2000)
Dirty Dancing (20th Anniversary Edition) [Blu-Ray] (1987)
Eight Below [Blu-ray] (2006)
Employee of the Month [Blu-ray] (2006)
Enter the Dragon [Blu-ray] (1973)
Eragon [Blu-ray] (2006)
Fantastic Four [Blu-ray] (2005)
The Fifth Element (Remastered) [Blu-ray] (1997)
Finding Neverland [Blu-ray] (2004)
Flyboys [Blu-Ray] (2006)
The Fountain [Blu-ray] (2006)
The Fugitive (Blu-ray) (1993)
Full Metal Jacket [Blu-ray] (1987)
G.I. Jane [Blu-ray] (1997)
Ghost Rider (Extended Cut) [Blu-ray] (2007)
Glory Road [Blu-ray] (2006)
Gone in 60 Seconds [Blu-ray] (2000)
GoodFellas [Blu-ray] (1990)
Happy Feet [Blu-ray] (2006)
The Haunted Mansion [Blu-ray] (2003)
Hellboy [Blu-ray] (2004)
House of Flying Daggers [Blu-ray] (2004)
Ice Age - The Meltdown [Blu-ray] (2006)
Into the Blue [Blu-Ray] (2005)
Invincible [Blu-ray] (2006)
King Arthur (Director's Cut) [Blu-ray] (2004)
Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut) [Blu-ray] (2005)
Kung Fu Hustle [Blu-ray] (2004)
Ladder 49 [Blu-ray]
The Last Samurai [Blu-ray] (2003)
Layer Cake [Blu-ray] (2004)
Letters from Iwo Jima [Blu-ray] (2006)
March of the Penguins [Blu-ray] (2005)
The Messengers [Blu-ray] (2007)
Monster House [Blu-ray] (2006)
Music and Lyrics [Blu-ray] (2007)
Night at the Museum [Blu-ray] (2006)

[PrimeBane]

BD part 2

Open Season [Blu-ray] (2006)
The Patriot (Extended Cut) [Blu-ray] (2000)
Pearl Harbor [Blu-ray] (2001)
The Phantom of the Opera [Blu-ray] (2004)
Pirates of the Caribbean - The Curse of the Black Pearl [Blu-ray] (2003)
Pirates of the Caribbean - Dead Man's Chest [Blu-ray] (2006)
Premonition [Blu-ray] (2007)
Primeval [Blu-ray] (2007)
Purple Rain [Blu-ray] (1984)
The Pursuit of Happyness [Blu-ray] (2006)
First Blood [Blu-ray] (1982)
Reign of Fire [Blu-ray] (2002)
National Geographic - Relentless Enemies [Blu-ray]
Reservoir Dogs (15th Anniversary) [Blu-ray] (1992)
The Road Warrior [Blu-ray] (1981)
Rocky Balboa [Blu-ray] (2006)
Roving Mars [Blu-ray] (2006)
A Scanner Darkly [Blu-ray] (2006)
Sky High [Blu-ray] (2005)
Species [Blu-ray] (1995)
Speed (Blu-ray) (1994)
Stargate [Blu-ray] (1994)
Stomp the Yard [Blu-ray] (2007)
Stranger Than Fiction [Blu-ray] (2006)
Superman II - The Richard Donner Cut [Blu-ray] (2006)
Superman Returns [Blu-ray]
Superman - The Movie [Blu-ray] (1978)
Swordfish (Blu-ray) (2001)
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby [Blu-ray] (2006)
Tears of the Sun [Blu-ray] (2003)
The Terminator [Blu-ray] (1984)
Terminator 2 - Judgment Day [Blu-ray] (1991)
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen [Blu-ray] (2003)
The Guardian [Blu-ray]
The Queen [Blu-ray] (2006)
The Transporter (Blu-Ray) (2002)
The Usual Suspects [Blu-ray] (1995)
The Wild [Blu-ray] (2006)
Tim Burton's Corpse Bride (Blu-ray) (2005)
TMNT [Blu-ray] (2007)
Total Recall [Blu-ray] (1990)
Training Day [Blu-ray] (2001)
Ultraviolet [Blu-ray] (2006)
Underworld - Evolution (Blu-ray) (2006)
Unforgiven (Blu-Ray) (1992)
X-Men - The Last Stand [Blu-ray] (2006)

[JaylisJayP]

Prime...it's actually only buy 2, get 1 free....you only have to buy 3 total titles.


Just ordered my second round on this...i'm definitely done now...probably.

Monster House blu-ray
Terminator blu-ray
Night at the Museum blu-ray

That's makes 7 high-def movies today for about $115 dlvd = $16.40 per movie. Damn good deal for new, sealed HD media.

[ewto16]

Whoa!! Now that is a Blu-Ray list. Something is getting bought from that.

I need suggestions for a 6th movie. Right now I have POTC 1&2 and 300 in one order. I have The Patriot and X3 in the other.

What is a good third movie? Fifth Element? (I can't remember if I like this movie, but everyone gushes over it all the time.)

I'm looking for something that is pretty rewatchable and with good picture quality. Based on my previous selections, I obviously like action movies. Comedies and sci-fi/fantasy are my other likes.

Departed is out. I liked it but the wife hates it and I won't ever watch it twice.

[JaylisJayP]

Fifth Element Remastered is a great addition to your blu-ray collection.

Crank is king of PQ.

[ewto16]

Fifth Element Remastered is a great addition to your blu-ray collection.

Crank is king of PQ.

Would I ever watch either of them more than once? Crank seems like it would be a generic shooter that I would find dull after seeing once.

[JaylisJayP]

Would I ever watch either of them more than once? Crank seems like it would be a generic shooter that I would find dull after seeing once.

It's definitely candy for when you want to go into a movie brain dead...but I've watched it 3 times already. If you like stupid action, you'll get replay value out of Crank.


Fifth Element I've seen about 8 times so far. The remastered blu-ray is such a thing of beauty you'll be popping it in not only to watch it, but to demo your system for friends and family.

Also, The Guardian I thought was a good movie with top tier PQ.

[JaylisJayP]

Very thorough article about the war for anyone interested....long and about 98% accurate, and very interesting.

hopefully the link works, it's through a gaming web site.

http://www.gametab.com/news/1018212/

[JaylisJayP]

Transporter is a fun action flick, too, with good PQ that I believe is part of that Amazon deal.

[PrimeBane]

I'd say Fifth Element is a good choice... although it does end up on TBS quite a bit from time to time.

If you don't have it, how about Kingdom of Heaven? I hear the PQ is pretty damn good for it. :)

[Preditor74]

Oh man I can get a PS3 60GB, Casino Royal, and both Pirates for $470. Is the PS3 really that great of a Blu Ray player? Should I jump on this....what to do what to do...

[PrimeBane]

Yes, the PS3 is a fine BD player :)

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT! :D

[JaylisJayP]

Yes, the PS3 is a fine BD player :)

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT! :D

what he said.

[ewto16]

Guardian was a pretty good movie. Don't think I have seen Kingdom of Heaven. Is that the one with Orlando Bloom? How is the movie overall?

[grif32]

Wild hogs was decent on BR some good laughs and outstanding PQ

Crank is king for PQ for BR but man I would never buy that movie. So bad.

Chris

[ewto16]

Blood diamond? The Fountain?

[PrimeBane]

I've heard very good things about Blood Diamond... I hope to pick it up myself. :)

[MPCanes]

Oh man, the Amazon PS3 deal is tempting the **** out of me (474.04 shipped + 3 free Blu discs).

I could throw it on the ole mastercard, but right now I'm geared up for the PSP-2000. Was planning on jumping to format neutrality in November...

[JaylisJayP]

Guardian was a pretty good movie. Don't think I have seen Kingdom of Heaven. Is that the one with Orlando Bloom? How is the movie overall?

Kingdom of Heaven is a great film top to bottom...acting, story, scenery, action and top tier picture quality. It's probably one of the top 5 high def movies still.

[JaylisJayP]

I've heard very good things about Blood Diamond... I hope to pick it up myself. :)

Blood Diamond is a good movie...it has that "stays with you" impact, at least for me....but not sure about picture quality. High-def digest only gave the hd dvd and blu-ray 3/5 stars....

[JaylisJayP]

Blood diamond? The Fountain?

Heard a LOT of mixed things about The Fountain. Mostly, though, I heard it was a bad kind of weird...i haven't seen it, but my rule on this one was to rent it at some point before committing to a purchase of it.

[imaginegrafix]

Thanks for posting the amazon deal!

Picked up a few HD-DVD's
Blood Diamond
300
Bourne Supremecy

Might have to go back for a few more......

[freezerfuel]

Man, I'm totally jumping on that Amazon deal if it's on until Monday. I need Batman Begins, Casino, Doom, Smokey & The Bandit, The Big Lebowski, Fast and The Furious, Troy and Unforgiven, there's a few stupid comedies I wouldn't mind owning as well.

[oaktown2000]

Oh man, the Amazon PS3 deal is tempting the **** out of me (474.04 shipped + 3 free Blu discs).

I could throw it on the ole mastercard, but right now I'm geared up for the PSP-2000. Was planning on jumping to format neutrality in November...


Add to that...you can send away for another 5 free Blu-Rays (select titles of course).

So...a PS3 + 8 Blu-Rays for $470....pretty nice deal

[PrimeBane]

There's a similar deal on HD DVD players as well for those interested. :)

$210 for the A2 and 8 free movies. :D

[PrimeBane]

Introducing the cheap Chinese HD DVD players in time for Xmas :)

http://www.venturer.com/news-details.aspx?id=15

[oaktown2000]

National Geographic - Relentless Enemies [Blu-ray]

Anyone seen this???

[oaktown2000]

I couldn't pass it up.....

got 300, Kingdom of Heaven, Casino Royale, The Road Warrior, Terminator 1 & 2 for $90 dlvd

I could easily pick out another 3 as well....but I think that's good for now. Thanks for posting that info guys...I love this thread.

[PrimeBane]

I expect Christmas Cards from you all this year. :D

[Hanky Panky]

PrimeBane's knowledge of HD is astounding and has served me well.

How bout a lap dance instead?

[oaktown2000]

I expect Christmas Cards from you all this year.

how about.....I won't shoot you in the face when we play Warhawk ;)

lol....I'm done until Troy: The Directors Cut comes out

I've had the PS3 for about a week and I'll already have 14 Blu-Rays...that's a good enough start for me

[ewto16]

Popped my Blu-Ray cherry today!!

300, POTC 1 & 2, Kingom of Heaven, The Patriot, and Blood Diamond.

I haven't seen KoH or Blood Diamond, so I'm looking forward to that. I almost got the Fifth Element, but I think I've seen that and I don't think I liked it.

[civictyperboy]

Kingdom of Heaven is an alright movie, kind of long, great PQ though, I purchased Relentness enemies a while ago when it came out, it is like a 45 minute documentary about lions, Jeremy Irons does the narration, it was a so so movie, nothing like Planet Earth though, if it is free and you can't figure out anything else to get it's a cool movie. I have a lot of the off beat not easy to find Blu-Ray titles so if you have any other questions on movies that you aren't sure about ask away

[oaktown2000]

ehhh...45 minutes....and "so so movie" aren't exactly enticing me...I went ahead and got 6 regular movies

[PrimeBane]

How bout a lap dance instead?

Pretty sure the wife to be won't go for that... but post pics just in case for the single fellas ;)

[JaylisJayP]

This...more than any studio...might be what ends the war.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Trends/Venturer/Hardware/Venturer_to_Unleash_Budget_HD_DVD_Player_for_the_Holidays/905


$150 HD DVD standalone players?

[ewto16]

This...more than any studio...might be what ends the war.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Trends/Venturer/Hardware/Venturer_to_Unleash_Budget_HD_DVD_Player_for_the_Holidays/905


$150 HD DVD standalone players?

Yep...low priced players and good movies will be the option for those people with HDTVs that are still on the fence. If I didn't have something already, I'd spring for that, assuming it is a decent player, as a Christmas present for myself.

Why isn't there a cheap Blu-Ray player yet? Sony being jerks about license fees?

[grif32]

Yep...low priced players and good movies will be the option for those people with HDTVs that are still on the fence. If I didn't have something already, I'd spring for that, assuming it is a decent player, as a Christmas present for myself.

Why isn't there a cheap Blu-Ray player yet? Sony being jerks about license fees?

Come Nov 1st there will probably be cheap BR players.

No-one is putting out a player this year for BR with all the correct specs.. Denon backed out for this year. Not looking good for BR at the moment.

[MPCanes]

Well, **** me. PS3 is on the way.

Format Neutral now. I can't afford this, at all, my credit card is screaming at me. As is the girl.

Oh well. 470.04 shipped with 8 movies was way too ****ing good to pass up.

[PrimeBane]

Welcome to format neutrality (at least purchase wise ;) )... it's nice to be able to get all movies released in HD :D

That's a sweet deal as well.

[MPCanes]

Welcome to format neutrality (at least purchase wise ;) )... it's nice to be able to get all movies released in HD :D

That's a sweet deal as well.

Honestly, I'm going to switch most pre-orders to Blu, I think. I've heard they have a nice coating on them that prevents scratches, not to mention I still think Blu is going to win this "war".

Too good of a deal. I'm just going to keep telling myself that. Too good of a deal :).

[JaylisJayP]

i'm trying to resist the urge to go back to the Amazon deal for #'s 7, 8, and 9....it's not really working.

[MPCanes]

i'm trying to resist the urge to go back to the Amazon deal for #'s 7, 8, and 9....it's not really working.

Do it.

Do it.

[JaylisJayP]

oh, man...somebody save me from myself....

Amazon deal just got me for movies 7, 8, and 9 on HD DVD

Casablanca
Beerfest
Happy Gilmore

hmm....my wife is 8 months pregnant, not sure how she's going to take this news :)

[MPCanes]

Well, if a baby comes flying out at you, I'll take the blame.

And the movies!

[civictyperboy]

I am starting to want a HD-DVD player, I enjoy my PS3 and Blu-Ray titles, I do not own an xbox, never wanted one so I think a stand alone is the answer to my problems, I think the HD-A20 would do fine, but are there new ones coming out later this year? why would I want to upgrade to the X2 or the more expensive one?

[MPCanes]

So a quick question for you guys:

With the PS3, I plan on hooking it up to my TV via HDMI, and then have the audio going to my receiver via optical. Will this allow me to listen to the uncompressed PCM tracks on the Blu-Ray discs?

[oaktown2000]

i'm trying to resist the urge to go back to the Amazon deal for #'s 7, 8, and 9....it's not really working.


lol....me too

[DEN7ER]

So a quick question for you guys:

With the PS3, I plan on hooking it up to my TV via HDMI, and then have the audio going to my receiver via optical. Will this allow me to listen to the uncompressed PCM tracks on the Blu-Ray discs?

yep. :)

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I just picked up Nip/Tuck Used on BD for $17.98

[HollandX]

I just picked up Nip/Tuck Used on BD for $17.98

How on earth?? It's MSRP is $80 and it doesn't even come out for a week!

[ewto16]

Come Nov 1st there will probably be cheap BR players.

No-one is putting out a player this year for BR with all the correct specs.. Denon backed out for this year. Not looking good for BR at the moment.

I'm confused....what do you mean they aren't putting them out with the correct spec?

[johnnyknoxsvill]

How on earth?? It's MSRP is $80 and it doesn't even come out for a week!

I picked it up at my local record store. It was priced $29.99 used. I had a $14 store credit so I used that and it came out to $17 and some change. People on the avsforum said it had gotten released early at BB and another place so I guess thats how I found it

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I'm confused....what do you mean they aren't putting them out with the correct spec?

Thats what I've heard, they are saying that BD-J might be pushed back to 08' due to not being finished yet. If thats the case and with the release of the low cost HD players this X-mas that could spell the end of BD. We will see what happens in the next few months

[briking]

I'm got a question, perhaps someone can help me with. I purchased a Samsung LNT4042H along with a HT-X50 (Home theatre in a box) and I'm using a toslink digital audio cable to connect the two when watching DirecTV and using my 360. After about an hour, hour and a half of use, the speakers begin to chirp intermitently.

The sounds seems to fluxuate between the 5 speakers. This doesn't happen when using HDMI to watch a DVD. There's another issue there altogether. But my question is, does it sound like the problem may be my toslink cable? I got a cheapo one from Amazon.com that I'm using.

Thanks.

[JaylisJayP]

I'm got a question, perhaps someone can help me with. I purchased a Samsung LNT4042H along with a HT-X50 (Home theatre in a box) and I'm using a toslink digital audio cable to connect the two when watching DirecTV and using my 360. After about an hour, hour and a half of use, the speakers begin to chirp intermitently.

The sounds seems to fluxuate between the 5 speakers. This doesn't happen when using HDMI to watch a DVD. There's another issue there altogether. But my question is, does it sound like the problem may be my toslink cable? I got a cheapo one from Amazon.com that I'm using.

Thanks.

I'm definitely not the authority on this, but I wouldn't think it's the cable. It's my understanding that digital audio cables are much like HDMI, they either work or they don't, there's no grades of quality...but again don't quote me.

Also, there's always the possibility that the cable's faulty....meaning there's something wrong with it outside of the general quality.

[PrimeBane]

So a quick question for you guys:

With the PS3, I plan on hooking it up to my TV via HDMI, and then have the audio going to my receiver via optical. Will this allow me to listen to the uncompressed PCM tracks on the Blu-Ray discs?

yep. :)

I'm pretty sure the answer is no... uncompressed PCM can only come over HDMI or analogue connections.

A thread on AVS about it.

[PrimeBane]

I'm confused....what do you mean they aren't putting them out with the correct spec?

The BD-J specs... all players must have the 1.1 spec for October in order to have the BD logo on their machine.

http://sony.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/

For those with a PS3, don't worry as I'm sure an update will upgrade it.

[PrimeBane]

I am starting to want a HD-DVD player, I enjoy my PS3 and Blu-Ray titles, I do not own an xbox, never wanted one so I think a stand alone is the answer to my problems, I think the HD-A20 would do fine, but are there new ones coming out later this year? why would I want to upgrade to the X2 or the more expensive one?

The new machines should be out sometime this fall.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/08/06/toshiba-releases-3-new-hd-dvd-players-under-500

The lowest end model (A2, A3) are only 1080i, but if you don't have a 1080p tv nor plan on getting one in the next year I wouldn't worry about it.

Basically the high end model has HDMI 1.3 where the others don't. So if you want to run TruHD or other lossless codecs over HDMI, you'll need that. If you're still in the DD 5.1 and DTS world, the A20 or A30 will do you just fine. :)

[PrimeBane]

I'm definitely not the authority on this, but I wouldn't think it's the cable. It's my understanding that digital audio cables are much like HDMI, they either work or they don't, there's no grades of quality...but again don't quote me.

Also, there's always the possibility that the cable's faulty....meaning there's something wrong with it outside of the general quality.

I agree... try a new cable first... if the problem continues then take the system back for a replacement.

[HollandX]

I picked it up at my local record store. It was priced $29.99 used. I had a $14 store credit so I used that and it came out to $17 and some change. People on the avsforum said it had gotten released early at BB and another place so I guess thats how I found it

hot damn!

[HollandX]

i saw aeon flux as it was free on cable. i surprisingly really liked it! (i hated ultraviolet).

i may buy it!

[Preditor74]

The BD-J specs... all players must have the 1.1 spec for October in order to have the BD logo on their machine.

http://sony.engadgethd.com/2007/03/24/blu-ray-players-get-a-new-standard-set-of-features-this-october/

For those with a PS3, don't worry as I'm sure an update will upgrade it.

Only problem is this excludes current players. Dennon was supposed to be the first to release a fully compliant player but it has now been delayed until 08'.

Samsung has the dual player coming out "this holiday season" but they have been kind of hush hush on the subject.

[HollandX]

i think the amazon buy 2 get 1 is over.

i didn't get a discount in my cart.

on the phone with them now.

[PrimeBane]

Works fine for me... perhaps they removed a movie from the list?

Just ordered:

HD DVD - Pitch Black, Blood Diamond, Shaun of the Dead
BD - POTC: DMC, Apocalypto, Kingdom of Heaven

[HollandX]

:mad:

still on the phone with them.

trying for...

hd- casino, backdraft, field of dreams

bd- usual suspects, apocalypto, tmnt

[HollandX]

the promo is over.

[JaylisJayP]

Holland....many of the titles are now out of stock...they deal only works for in-stock titles.

that may be where your problem is.

[JaylisJayP]

they probably sold out of almost everything.

[PrimeBane]

they must not like you or something... I got all 6 to work. ;) :p

If they can't fix it, drop me a PM :)

[HollandX]

i dunno. it didn't work. all the hd ones are in stock, because they already started the shipping process and i can't cancel the order now. so i'm screwed six ways from sunday. since i have prime, they'll all be here on friday.

:cries:

[PrimeBane]

They have a pretty kick ass return policy... just ship them all back for a refund.

[freezerfuel]

Sales over already? Ehhhhhh.

[oaktown2000]

that sucks Holland......but I agree with Scott...just write "return to sender" on the outside and send it right back

[HollandX]

yeah. it's ok. i didn't really have the money to spend anyways. i was just buying them because they were on sale.

it kinda worked out for the better.

:)

[oaktown2000]

you know what....when we do battle in the NNL....maybe we can throw a Blu-Ray title on the line...make it worth the while :D

[HollandX]

you know what....when we do battle in the NNL....maybe we can throw a Blu-Ray title on the line...make it worth the while :D

http://www.galeon.com/gladiator/maximus.jpg

[JaylisJayP]

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

[PrimeBane]

Too bad you won't see Gladiator on BD for at least 18 months :p

[ewto16]

Wow!! I was thinking of waiting to jump on the Amazon sale. I'm glad I got mine yesterday.

[ewto16]

Too bad you won't see Gladiator on BD for at least 18 months :p

GAH!!! This is part of Paramount and Dreamworks too? CRAP CRAP CRAP!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[PrimeBane]

Yup... sorry man.

Quick, go buy a cheap HD DVD player on Amazon. :)

[HollandX]

TMNT

Our favorite ninja turtles are back in a new adventure. Going into this movie, I did not realize that it begins where the previous movies left off. I thought the franchise had been restarted with the switch from live action to computer animation. Oops.

The movie gives a blink and you’ll miss it introduction to the characters, place, and time. If you are unfamiliar with the characters large (the Turtles themselves) and small (Casey Jones), you probably will not appreciate them as much. While the Turtles are obviously the main attraction, the movie is Raphael-centric. I would be hard pressed not to call it “The Raphael and Leonardo Show” with everyone else playing second fiddle.

TMNT waffles between being a fun kid movie and a serious adult affair. The writers failed to properly strike a balance between the two. If I had the plot (especially the generic angry monsters’ goals and weaknesses) repeated to me one more time, I was going to hurl something through my TV. Yet, in between some awful one-liners, there is a silver lining. The scenes written towards the adult are gripping and actually near brilliance.

The CGI is phenomenal. Without being hampered by oversized animatronics suits, we finally get to see the Turtles saunter and fight like true ninjas. There is one fight scene in the rain that will become a reference point to show off your shiny new home theater.

Recommended if you’re a hardcore turtle fan, looking for another quality reference scene, or under 10 years old. Very mildly recommended for the rest of you looking for a CGI superhero movie.

Medium: Blu-ray Disc

[HollandX]

Stranger Than Fiction

Harold Crick (Will Ferrell) wakes up in a real life story starring him. Each step he takes and each thought he makes is poetically narrated to him by a charming female British voice (Emma Thompson).

Perhaps intentionally, I never felt a part of the story. I always was aware I was simply watching it unfold. Just like Harold Crick.

It was shocking to read on the Internet how much Maggie Gyllenhaal’s romantic character is hated. I found her mannerisms sweet and neither forced nor obnoxious. I enjoyed her performance, and impatiently wait to see her Rachel Dawes. As usual, Dustin Hoffman was brilliant in a supporting role.

While I did enjoy it, the movie never quite pulls the trigger when I want it to. One of the biggest questions of the movie, “How did this happen to him?” is neither answered nor explained. Perhaps it is all just fiction.

Recommended if you like quirky and romantic fantasy movies with a little comedy.

Medium: Blu-ray Disc

[johnnyknoxsvill]

More Reviews!!

[HollandX]

^ heh. I just started. These are my first two! If they're well received, I'll keep doing it. :)

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I like them and are appreciated

[Chronic Tronic]

So, I guess I should come here instead of making a new thread.

In september my best friend and me will move in together in an appartment, and we're looking to buy an HD-ready flatscreen LCD television. Our price range will be somewhere around 800 dollars, but that's not really important.

What IS important is the fact that neither of us is a tech-geek. We've seen tv's for half that price with a 32" screen but with 1000:1 contrast. All I know when I see that is that the more expensive ones have like 5000 or even 7000:1. (I'm not even checking out the REALLY expensive ones)...
This is the one I'm talking about
http://www.fnac.be/nl/Catalog/Detail.aspx?cIndex=6&catalog=immagineSuono&categoryN=TV%20&%20Hifi&category=tvlcd&product=10134124&scategory=tvlcd3032

So, I humbly ask for help.

Contrast, brightness, resolution, response time, etc...
What are the "ideal" numbers for those properties?
What's the best I can hope to find in the price category I've just mentioned?

Thanks in advance :)

[ewto16]

So, I humbly ask for help.

Contrast, brightness, resolution, response time, etc...
What are the "ideal" numbers for those properties?
What's the best I can hope to find in the price category I've just mentioned?

Thanks in advance :)

I'm no expert compared to some of the other guys on here, but I pay enough attention to get you started in the right direction.

The better the contrast ratio, the better the picture will look overall. It makes the blacks and other colors seem more life-like and real. Maybe starting at 5000:1 is a good idea.

Resolution is a bit more tricky. For anything under 50", you don't really need 1080p. 1080i is great if you can get it. Otherwise 720p is fine as well.

I'm not sure about response time on LCDs, but the lower the response time, the better as well. Under 5ns for a PC monitor is good, so I assume it is the same for a TV.

I think Sharp and Toshiba make good LCD TVs. Maybe Phillips too.

If I were you, I might try saving up a bit more cash and getting something like this. I've seen this TV in stores before and it is pretty sweet. It is a plasma, not an LCD, but I think it is a good TV. Might even be able to find it online for cheaper and in your price range.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8275877&type=product&id=1171057793282

[ewto16]

^ heh. I just started. These are my first two! If they're well received, I'll keep doing it. :)

Nice reviews as well. Are you just reviewing movies that you watch in general or specifically ones on HD or BR? I just wondered as I didn't see any comments on the PQ or anything like that.

[Chronic Tronic]

Thanks!

[JaylisJayP]

TMNT

Our favorite ninja turtles are back in a new adventure. Going into this movie, I did not realize that it begins where the previous movies left off. I thought the franchise had been restarted with the switch from live action to computer animation. Oops.

The movie gives a blink and you’ll miss it introduction to the characters, place, and time. If you are unfamiliar with the characters large (the Turtles themselves) and small (Casey Jones), you probably will not appreciate them as much. While the Turtles are obviously the main attraction, the movie is Raphael-centric. I would be hard pressed not to call it “The Raphael and Leonardo Show” with everyone else playing second fiddle.

TMNT waffles between being a fun kid movie and a serious adult affair. The writers failed to properly strike a balance between the two. If I had the plot (especially the generic angry monsters’ goals and weaknesses) repeated to me one more time, I was going to hurl something through my TV. Yet, in between some awful one-liners, there is a silver lining. The scenes written towards the adult are gripping and actually near brilliance.

The CGI is phenomenal. Without being hampered by oversized animatronics suits, we finally get to see the Turtles saunter and fight like true ninjas. There is one fight scene in the rain that will become a reference point to show off your shiny new home theater.

Recommended if you’re a hardcore turtle fan, looking for another quality reference scene, or under 10 years old. Very mildly recommended for the rest of you looking for a CGI superhero movie.

Both my wife and I thought this was a pretty good one...we got the blu-ray because it was cheaper. I also admit to seeing all 3 other turtle movies in the theaters :)

[JaylisJayP]

So, I guess I should come here instead of making a new thread.

In september my best friend and me will move in together in an appartment, and we're looking to buy an HD-ready flatscreen LCD television. Our price range will be somewhere around 800 dollars, but that's not really important.

What IS important is the fact that neither of us is a tech-geek. We've seen tv's for half that price with a 32" screen but with 1000:1 contrast. All I know when I see that is that the more expensive ones have like 5000 or even 7000:1. (I'm not even checking out the REALLY expensive ones)...
This is the one I'm talking about
http://www.fnac.be/nl/Catalog/Detail.aspx?cIndex=6&catalog=immagineSuono&categoryN=TV%20&%20Hifi&category=tvlcd&product=10134124&scategory=tvlcd3032

So, I humbly ask for help.

Contrast, brightness, resolution, response time, etc...
What are the "ideal" numbers for those properties?
What's the best I can hope to find in the price category I've just mentioned?

Thanks in advance :)


If you're absolutely set on LCD, you might want to go for a very high contrast radio...10,000 to 1 or so. LCD's historically have lighter blacks than plasma, but I think that's been improved with recent generations (much like burn-in has been reduced greatly on plasma screens)

I agree that 1080p isn't needed for even anything at or under 60"....50 is probably the breaking point to where you'd ever see a difference. Both times in the last couple years that I bought an HDTV (62" DLP and recently a 50" plasma for the bedroom) I opted for the larger size at 768p native resolution over losing 8-10 inches just to get 1080p for the same price.

[Chronic Tronic]

If you're absolutely set on LCD, you might want to go for a very high contrast radio...10,000 to 1 or so. LCD's historically have lighter blacks than plasma, but I think that's been improved with recent generations (much like burn-in has been reduced greatly on plasma screens)

I agree that 1080p isn't needed for even anything at or under 60"....50 is probably the breaking point to where you'd ever see a difference. Both times in the last couple years that I bought an HDTV (62" DLP and recently a 50" plasma for the bedroom) I opted for the larger size at 768p native resolution over losing 8-10 inches just to get 1080p for the same price.

:eek:

10 000:1?

I think that'll cost almost twice as much as what we have to spend...

[freezerfuel]

TMNT

Our favorite ninja turtles are back in a new adventure. Going into this movie, I did not realize that it begins where the previous movies left off. I thought the franchise had been restarted with the switch from live action to computer animation. Oops.

The movie gives a blink and you’ll miss it introduction to the characters, place, and time. If you are unfamiliar with the characters large (the Turtles themselves) and small (Casey Jones), you probably will not appreciate them as much. While the Turtles are obviously the main attraction, the movie is Raphael-centric. I would be hard pressed not to call it “The Raphael and Leonardo Show” with everyone else playing second fiddle.

TMNT waffles between being a fun kid movie and a serious adult affair. The writers failed to properly strike a balance between the two. If I had the plot (especially the generic angry monsters’ goals and weaknesses) repeated to me one more time, I was going to hurl something through my TV. Yet, in between some awful one-liners, there is a silver lining. The scenes written towards the adult are gripping and actually near brilliance.

The CGI is phenomenal. Without being hampered by oversized animatronics suits, we finally get to see the Turtles saunter and fight like true ninjas. There is one fight scene in the rain that will become a reference point to show off your shiny new home theater.

Recommended if you’re a hardcore turtle fan, looking for another quality reference scene, or under 10 years old. Very mildly recommended for the rest of you looking for a CGI superhero movie.

I pretty much agree with everything here. To be honest if the original Turtles movie ever came out on HD DVD I'd rather own it. I was a little disappointed in this one. Also, I can't remember the exact running time but it was a fairly short movie, pretty sure it just barely reached the hour and a half mark.

[HollandX]

Nice reviews as well. Are you just reviewing movies that you watch in general or specifically ones on HD or BR? I just wondered as I didn't see any comments on the PQ or anything like that.

Thanks. :) Both of those were on Blu-ray. TMNT was phenominal and surely can be a reference disc for the fight in the rain. STF just seemed like a high quality print. I don't remember being blown away or anything. Just a recent movie out in hi-def.

[PrimeBane]

:eek:

10 000:1?

I think that'll cost almost twice as much as what we have to spend...

You could probably get away with 5000:1

[ewto16]

:eek:

10 000:1?

I think that'll cost almost twice as much as what we have to spend...

Well, he really is right. This is why I really hate LCDs. I think the picture always looks washed out on them. I'm guessing this is because the contrast ratio is not so good.

A low contrast ratio will make everything look flat. People in shadows, or shadows won't show as well. Dark scenes will be really difficult to watch as everything will just be the same greyish color.

Buying a TV with a low contrast ratio will only upset you in the long run. Have you looked at some of them in the store yet? It is pretty easy to tell the difference.

[grif32]

A good read on Contrast ratio.

http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/contrast-ratio.html

Also I thought TMNT was a huge let down. Maybe I was expecting more.

Chris

[Chronic Tronic]

Well, he really is right. This is why I really hate LCDs. I think the picture always looks washed out on them. I'm guessing this is because the contrast ratio is not so good.

A low contrast ratio will make everything look flat. People in shadows, or shadows won't show as well. Dark scenes will be really difficult to watch as everything will just be the same greyish color.

Buying a TV with a low contrast ratio will only upset you in the long run. Have you looked at some of them in the store yet? It is pretty easy to tell the difference.

I know...

It'll be real tricky to find a decent set that'll fit into our budget.

I mean, we'll be playing the 360 on it, so we want and NEED a quality tv, but it can't set us back too much...

Guess I just described the average situation of the average tv buyer :D

[PrimeBane]

Chronic... I'm not sure what plasmas go for over there, but take a good long look at them. You'll be much happier with the quality of the picture. :)

[Chronic Tronic]

Chronic... I'm not sure what plasmas go for over there, but take a good long look at them. You'll be much happier with the quality of the picture. :)

The cheapest plasma in the store I usually go in Antwerp is the Panasonic TX32LE7FA, for 750 euros, which is (exactly) 1025 dollars, which is about twice as much as we were hoping for...

[MPCanes]

PrimeBane, what can I use to get uncompressed PCM then? I don't have HDMI in on my receiver. I have...optical...coax...hmmm, I don't really know what else. Guess I'm screwed?

[PrimeBane]

Sadly you're boned until you get an HDMI 1.3 capable receiver. Sorry. :(

If the PS3 had analogue outs you'd be fine. I'm in the same boat with my old receiver. When I convert my basement to HD, I'll buy a player that does the decoding for TruHD or passes PCM over analogue with 6 or more analogue channels out.

And really, I think DD 5.1 and DTS do just fine for now. :)

[PrimeBane]

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[MPCanes]

Sadly you're boned until you get an HDMI 1.3 capable receiver. Sorry. :(

If the PS3 had analogue outs you'd be fine. I'm in the same boat with my old receiver. When I convert my basement to HD, I'll buy a player that does the decoding for TruHD or passes PCM over analogue with 6 or more analogue channels out.

And really, I think DD 5.1 and DTS do just fine for now. :)

Seriously, it will. I am going to need to upgrade my TV sooner rather then later, it keeps making strange clicking noises and it scares the **** out of me...

I keep trying to sell it to my parents as 58" is too big for my bedroom, but they won't bite on it :).

Great PQ, but something sounds like its about to blow in it.

[HollandX]

Ultraviolet

Recently, there was a poll on the IMDB asking which actress is most typecast. While Drew Barrymore won, I still stand by my vote of Milla Jovovich.

Ultraviolet can be summed up in three words: Style. Over. Substance. Set in the late 21st century, there is a war between diseased (aka superhuman) rebels and healthy (normal) humans. Violet (Jovovich) shockingly is a skimpy-clothes-wearing sexy martial arts heroine

The plot is nonsensical. The fight scenes even get boring as the viewer rarely ever feels Violet is in any real danger. She could single handedly find bin Laden and kill the entire Taliban before the next commercial break.

There was however one stylish attack scene I had to rewind to watch over again. Think the arrow scene in Hero.

Very mildly recommended if you’re in a brain dead mood to listen to techno music and watch colors flash before your eyes. Strong recommendation to avoid for everyone else.

Medium: HD Cable

[HollandX]

Æon Flux

It’s so ironic I watched Æon Flux soon after Ultraviolet. I didn’t know the plot of either ahead of time. They’re like... THE SAME. Only Flux is way better. Set in the 25th century, a skimpy-clothes-wearing sexy martial arts heroine (Charlize Theron) leads rebels against the evil tyrannical government. That sounds familiar.

I actually enjoyed this movie. It's great eye candy. I was even pleasantly surprised by the answers to the movie’s mysteries.

I don’t remember the TV show from when I was younger, so I can’t tell you how this compares.

Recommended if you’re in the mood for a sexy martial arts mystery film, or you ever thought about watching Ultraviolet.

Medium: HD Cable

[PrimeBane]

To add to Aeon Flux, it's awesome eye candy as well in HD.

[HollandX]

To add to Aeon Flux, it's awesome eye candy as well in HD.

Ooh, good phrase. I added that in. I was going to send you a quarter as compensation, but then with the money conversion you'd actually owe me.

So just say thanks and we'll call it even.

[PrimeBane]

Yes, but I've copyrighted the phrase... you now owe me. :p

[JayDouble]

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[HollandX]

Your laws are meaningless to me.

[oaktown2000]

I can do your review one better :)

AEON FLUX - it sucked...that's all

[PrimeBane]

Yes, but it's eye candy that sucked :D

[JaylisJayP]

i got Aeon Flux from blockbuster online on HD DVD and got about 20 minutes into it before the disc skipped and stopped. I do admit it was AWESOME eye candy...i need to re-rent it or buy it cheap used to get all the way through.

[HollandX]

The Marine

The Marine is a throwback to 80’s action movies. Roar, boom, punch, boom, one-liner, boom. It’s Commando for 2006 with popular professional wrestler John Cena (in his film debut) subbing in for Arnold.

The movie just isn’t any good, though. Even with a runtime of 93 minutes, the movie drags. The characters are annoying. The simple plot and stupid dialog aren’t even saved by any level of comic relief. The Marine certainly has its share of action and stuff getting blown up. Don’t worry. If you blink and miss an explosion, just wait another few seconds. Except, even the explosions aren’t even creative or fun. Fire makes things go boom. We get it.

I like John Cena. I want him to do well. But this was awful. And my, how Robert Patrick has fallen.

I expect this movie to be repeated endlessly over weekends at 1am on USA.

Unless you’re a big John Cena fan or really want to see stuff get blown up, strong recommendation to avoid.

Medium: HD Cable

[PrimeBane]

I think two hours of cleaning out your belly button lint is probably more entertaining than The Marine.

[PrimeBane]

For may Canadian brothers:

Future shop has the Toshiba A2 on sale this weekend for $299.99. There's 3 free movies included in the box.

And Best buy has the Sony 300 for $580ish... not a great deal, but better than a kick in the sack (I'd still buy the PS3 over it though). It comes with 5 free movies via mail in offer.

[supertim]

For may Canadian brothers:

Future shop has the Toshiba A2 on sale this weekend for $299.99. There's 3 free movies included in the box.

And Best buy has the Sony 300 for $580ish... not a great deal, but better than a kick in the sack (I'd still buy the PS3 over it though). It comes with 5 free movies via mail in offer.

You mean five free lame movies...same deal with HD-DVD, too.


Well, most of the free movies are lame.

[PrimeBane]

Yeah, it's certainly not the "cream of the crop" for titles :(

But it's marginally better than a kick in the ass. :D