High Definition Discussion Thread - Blu-Ray, HDTV, etc...

[imaginegrafix]

Wingnut - I'll take Layer Cake, shoot me over a pm w/ your paypal addy

[freezerfuel]

Still waiting on my 5 free, hope they come soon. I can't wait to see The Thing in "High D". :P

[grif32]

Well looks like BR won another week 61-39 in favor of Blue.

With the BB and Amazon Bogo's, 3 day & date release's against Just BR's Rush Hour 3 and still couldnt do anything I am in shock really. 61 - 39 the last 3 weeks.

Seem's to me there is something going on behind all the #'s..

But who knows. I think its time for Warner to end this soon..

[oaktown2000]

$42 dlvd -
The Simpsons
Unforgiven
Relentless Enemies
Layer Cake

All are open...but in perfect, pristine condition. Viewed once.

[JaylisJayP]

Well looks like BR won another week 61-39 in favor of Blue.

With the BB and Amazon Bogo's, 3 day & date release's against Just BR's Rush Hour 3 and still couldnt do anything I am in shock really. 61 - 39 the last 3 weeks.

Seem's to me there is something going on behind all the #'s..

But who knows. I think its time for Warner to end this soon..

That's pretty shocking, too....It might just be that a TON of people now own PS3s and are picking up the blu-rays.

[rsoaker23]

I'm having a heck of time finding resident evil 1 and 3

[avsfan21]

I dont know why you would want RE3. I mean I liked 1 and 2 was alright. I have no idea what they were trying to get at with 3. All of a sudden Alice has like magical powers and stuff.

[JaylisJayP]

I dont know why you would want RE3. I mean I liked 1 and 2 was alright. I have no idea what they were trying to get at with 3. All of a sudden Alice has like magical powers and stuff.

agreed, 3 was weak.

Resident Evil 1 was at my Wal-Mart, you might want to try there.

[SBrooks1]

2007 will go down as the year of Blu :D

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I picked mine up at WM for $19 after Tax. good thing I didnt open it yet as I found it at my LRS for $13.99

[rsoaker23]

agreed, 3 was weak.

Resident Evil 1 was at my Wal-Mart, you might want to try there.

Thanks I just got back..from the super walmart..had plenty..guess bestbuy was just trying to sucker you into the 3 pack

[MattW62001]

I'm thinking of buying one of those Logitech universal remotes. I have a question about them though. I've been looking at the 880 and was wondering if it is possible to program that remote to work on my PS3? Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Matt

[stupidsuck]

$42 dlvd -
The Simpsons
Unforgiven
Relentless Enemies
Layer Cake

All are open...but in perfect, pristine condition. Viewed once.

are you willing to part with just the simpsons by itself?

[ToightLikeATiger]

Just got done watching Clerks II. Very funny movie but I dont think the HD quality of it was as good as the other movies Ive seen. Still it was a good movie to watch since I had never seen it before.

[JaylisJayP]

yeah, as much as I went into the theater really wanting to like RE3, the movie just wasn't good. So no buy for me on that one....plus I already have the second one (as I'm guessing most fans of the movies do on blu-ray)...so I wasn't even considering the 3-pack.

[JaylisJayP]

Just got done watching Clerks II. Very funny movie but I dont think the HD quality of it was as good as the other movies Ive seen. Still it was a good movie to watch since I had never seen it before.

i just watched this for the second time last weekend. I agree it's not top tier picture quality, but the bright colors do shine.

HEY....it's interspecies erotica.

[JaylisJayP]

I'm thinking of buying one of those Logitech universal remotes. I have a question about them though. I've been looking at the 880 and was wondering if it is possible to program that remote to work on my PS3? Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks a lot. Matt

I don't think any of these work on the PS3 because the PS3 is bluetooth.

Can anyone else confirm or correct me?

[ToightLikeATiger]

i just watched this for the second time last weekend. I agree it's not top tier picture quality, but the bright colors do shine.

HEY....it's interspecies erotica.

HAHA!!! And yeah its not top tier but its still noticeably better then regular dvd. I really enjoyed it. The whole interspecies erotica was funny but I think the best part was the when the LOTR geek throws up because Randal made fun of the series. It was so unspecting it made me laugh really hard.

Taking Porch Monkey back baby!

[ToightLikeATiger]

I don't think any of these work on the PS3 because the PS3 is bluetooth.

Can anyone else confirm or correct me?

I dont think any remote works with the gaming systems at this point. You would have to use the PS3 remote.

Not even the Harmony remotes work with gaming systems right now. Hopefully thats something they will change because it would be nice to have the 1 remote work for everything.

I could be wrong as well but unless something new has come out my research shows they wont.

[HollandX]

I dont think any remote works with the gaming systems at this point. You would have to use the PS3 remote.

Not even the Harmony remotes work with gaming systems right now. Hopefully thats something they will change because it would be nice to have the 1 remote work for everything.

I could be wrong as well but unless something new has come out my research shows they wont.

The harmony works out of the box with the Xbox 360. It can control the XMB and BD playback on a PS3 with a tiny USB dongle (http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Blu-Wave-Remote/dp/B000R5H7KE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1199466862&sr=8-1).

[vicnsand]

Question - is there a huge difference between the Transformers DVD and HD-DVD? I have the DVD and have played it upconverted on my HD DVD player, and it looks great. Just wondering if it's worth it to get the HD DVD.

FYI, I have a 40" Bravia (KDL40D3000 - 1080i) with an HDMI connection to my HD DVD player.

[JaylisJayP]

I dont think any remote works with the gaming systems at this point. You would have to use the PS3 remote.

Not even the Harmony remotes work with gaming systems right now. Hopefully thats something they will change because it would be nice to have the 1 remote work for everything.

I could be wrong as well but unless something new has come out my research shows they wont.

I think most work with the 360 because its infrared. Bluetooth is different, which is why most exclude the PS3.

[JaylisJayP]

Question - is there a huge difference between the Transformers DVD and HD-DVD? I have the DVD and have played it upconverted on my HD DVD player, and it looks great. Just wondering if it's worth it to get the HD DVD.

FYI, I have a 40" Bravia (KDL40D3000 - 1080i) with an HDMI connection to my HD DVD player.


You'll get varying opinions based on different people's setup and equipment. I would suggest renting the HD DVD once to tell for yourself.

However, if you just want other's opinions....here's mine. There's a significant difference. Even the lower-tiered HD DVDs and blu-ray are head and shoulders above the best upconverted DVDs.


For me, it's kinda like pitting Duke or another top college team (upconverted DVD) against...say....this year's Minnesota Timberwolves (say a lower tiered HD DVD).

Duke might be the best in its own league, but it'd still get crushed in the pros, even by the worst team.

[HollandX]

Question - is there a huge difference between the Transformers DVD and HD-DVD? I have the DVD and have played it upconverted on my HD DVD player, and it looks great. Just wondering if it's worth it to get the HD DVD.

if you bought an hd player and you're not using it for a top effects movie like transformer, what ARE You waiting to use it for?

even w/o reading a single review you should just imagine that transformers in hd would be pretty much the REASON to buy an hd player

[MarkyMark]

Warner going Blu only (http://gizmodo.com/340809/confirmed-warner-going-100-blu+ray-is-this-hd-dvds-deathblow)

Hopefully Transformers will make it to Blu...:D

[HollandX]

Warner going Blu only (http://gizmodo.com/340809/confirmed-warner-going-100-blu+ray-is-this-hd-dvds-deathblow)

Hopefully Transformers will make it to Blu...:D

damn.

it's over.

any word on Matrix?

[HollandX]

ROFL to bill gates at CES

with my last presentation ever... i would like to unveil the ultimate xbox 360 with hd dvd!

$599!

<crickets>

[SBrooks1]

YES!! Great news!!! :D

[JaylisJayP]

Warner news is killer for HD DVD. It probably is over now.

[HollandX]

LMAO

Blu-ray Disc:
Disney
Fox
Sony
MGM
Lionsgate
Warner Brothers
New Line

HD DVD
Universal
Paramount

[oaktown2000]

I think its time for Warner to end this soon..


Sooner then you think ;)

[dayday6]

Toshiba wasted alot of money getting Paramount.
If I didn't have a HD-DVD player, I definately would not by one now, unless I got it for $99 like I did.

[SBrooks1]

New Line is still neutral. They were supposed to release movies like Hairspray and Shoot 'em Up later on HD DVD. This might swing them to complete Blu-ray exclusivity though. Hopefully. :D

[HollandX]

one thing i find interesting is that if it's over, don't think it ended the way we expected with consumer choice... it ended w/ backroom deals w/ studios

[oaktown2000]

It's only fair...seeing as how Sony lost out with the BetaMax. They were due.

[HollandX]

New Line is still neutral. They were supposed to release movies like Hairspray and Shoot 'em Up later on HD DVD. This might swing them to complete Blu-ray exclusivity though. Hopefully. :D

lol

New Line is a division of Warner.

[dayday6]

This really isn't that great news even though, I always wanted Blu-ray to win since I had it first.

With out the cut throat war, there is no incentive for the camps to give mega deals.

I bet avsforum is exploding right now.

[HollandX]

Must suck to have gotten Harry Potters 1-5 on hd dvd. you'll never finish that collection now!

want 6 and 7? buy a ps3, *****!

[HollandX]

Warner will continue to release on both HD DVD and Blu-ray until May 2008, but after that, it's BD for life for this studio. Oh, and while there's nothing official mentioning any sort of payoff, we're hearing that quite a sum was dished out to make this happen.



http://www.engadgethd.com/

[dayday6]

http://www.engadgethd.com/


It is easy to say that.

When Paramount went HD-DVD exclusive the amount and names were dropped.

I'm not saying that money didn't change hands, but that statement is empty.



The day Paramount went exclusive $150 million was said, a guy from Microsoft(can't remember his name) said money was exchanged but none came from Microsoft.

[imaginegrafix]

ugh, the blu bots will be out in full force for days now.

Pretty surprised considering WB had seemed to favor red for quite a while - I'd have to say that pretty much ends the "war"

[MattW62001]

I don't think any of these work on the PS3 because the PS3 is bluetooth.

Can anyone else confirm or correct me?

Ok, no biggie. I appreciate the info. Thanks, Matt

[MattW62001]

I dont think any remote works with the gaming systems at this point. You would have to use the PS3 remote.

Not even the Harmony remotes work with gaming systems right now. Hopefully thats something they will change because it would be nice to have the 1 remote work for everything.

I could be wrong as well but unless something new has come out my research shows they wont.

That makes sense. Thanks for the response. Take care. Matt

[grif32]

You can get the Harmony 880 to work with the PS3. There is a post that I can not locate that shows how.

Chris

[imaginegrafix]

Forgot to mention, I scored the BR Spiderman trilogy off of ebay for under $25 dlvd - we'll see if the seller delivers though, his feedback wasn't the greatest but everything recent was good - I had a gift card for ebay so I figured what the heck.

[grif32]

Well all the BR's Bogo's have worked and made WB's come over to the Blu Side.

Remember BR DID NOT out sell HD DVD they just gave away more disk.

I think HD DVD made Blu Ray alot better. Without HD DVD, BR would probably not be where its at today.

Do you think they will continue with all the BR Bogo's now?? I sure hope so :)

Funny how the Blu Ray dorks think the WAR is over. What a joke its far from over.

They still have DVD to compete with.

[imaginegrafix]

I hope the bogo's continue - I don't like the prices on Blu catalog titles w/out the sales, and I'll still buy hd dvd exclusive titles - picking up zoidac Tuesday - but hd dvd should be dead by the end of the year, but you never know..... maybe they have something up their sleeve yet.

As for competing with dvd - maybe 5 years from now they can get on that level, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.

[WingNut 25]

If this is the end then lets hope that prices become more reasonable across the board on BR discs and that we'll see clearance sales on HD titles.

[jackbauer]

With this news about WB, I am thinking about getting a Blu-Ray player. I dont know alot about the industry, I keep up with everything with this thread, and it seems like this will end the war. I think I know the answer but should I just go with the cheapest PS3 that I can find? I dont care about the backwards comp, and I have a 360 (like it better as a gaming machine). I think I have seen everyone here say it is the best player for the price, and every now and then i could play a great PS3 game.

[grif32]

With this news about WB, I am thinking about getting a Blu-Ray player. I dont know alot about the industry, I keep up with everything with this thread, and it seems like this will end the war. I think I know the answer but should I just go with the cheapest PS3 that I can find? I dont care about the backwards comp, and I have a 360 (like it better as a gaming machine). I think I have seen everyone here say it is the best player for the price, and every now and then i could play a great PS3 game.

Yes the PS3 is the way to go.

The WAR is far from over.

Stay tuned.....

[JaylisJayP]

grif....i'm as formal neutral as they come. 120 blu-ray, 108 HD DVD. But I have a difficult time believing that this move won't mean the end of the format war.

Not disagreeing with you, just asking why you believe the war is far from over?

Is Universal/Paramount/Dreamworks enough to keep an entire format going? They'd have to dramatically increase their release count.

[JaylisJayP]

I have to say, in a weird way, I kinda like the idea of having all these HD DVDs as "collector's items" if the format goes away this year. I kinda wish I had some laserdiscs to display, too.

:)

[grif32]

grif....i'm as formal neutral as they come. 120 blu-ray, 108 HD DVD. But I have a difficult time believing that this move won't mean the end of the format war.

Not disagreeing with you, just asking why you believe the war is far from over?

Is Universal/Paramount/Dreamworks enough to keep an entire format going? They'd have to dramatically increase their release count.

The WAR was really never BR vs HD DVD it was HDM vs DVD.

BR disc sales are STILL so small and it will continue to be for years to come. I dont see BR or HD DVD if Warner went RED instead of blu ever taking over DVD.

They will have to double the Bogo's this year compared to last year for them to really catch on. If you seen the list of Bogo's from last year it was insane.

Plus they need players under $200. Thats why I say the WAR is far from over.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I really hope the BD group doesnt jack up prices on Hardware and Software because of this news. If they do then no one will want to join them. I like being purple but I do see a blu future, when who knows.

[grif32]

12/06 First BOGO for Blu-Ray movies


1/12/07
BOGO @ Best Buy
House of Flying Daggers
Kung Fu Hustle
Black Hawk Down
Monster House
Click
Talladega Nights: Ballad Of Ricky Bobby
Underworld: Evolution

2/4/07 – 2/10/07
BOGO @ Best Buy
CLICK
UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION
MONSTER HOUSE
HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS
INTO THE BLUE
THE FIFTH ELEMENT

2/9/07 – 2/13/07
BOGO @ Fry’s
For $24.99
Click
Silent Hill
Underworld Evolution
Little Man
Monster House
The Benchwarmers
For $19.99
50 First Date
The Big Hit
House of Flying Dagger
THe Fifth Element
Hitch
A Knight's Tale
Into the Blue
Memento
Stealth
XXX
Black Hawk Down
Tears of the Sun*
SWAT
Resident Evil: Apocalypse

3/6/07
50% Off @ Amazon
47 Titles Including:
Alien vs Predator
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Resident Evil - Apocalypse
50 First Dates
Kingdom Of Heaven
Memento
Speed
Fifth Element
Entrapment
Phone
Behind Enemy Lines
Chain Reaction
The Marine
Hitch
One Last Thing



7/6/07 – 7/10/07
2/$25 @ Fry’s
Curse of the Golden Flower
Black Hawk Down
House of Flying Daggers
Hellboy
Layer Cake
Kung Fu Hustle
Resident Evil: Apocalypse
Tears of the Sun
Identity
Stealth
Into the Blue
XXX
Big Fish
Memento
Donnie Brasco
Closer
Revenge
Hitch
Seven Years in Tibet
Cruel Intentions
Blazing Saddles
Full Metal Jacket
Unforgiven

10/01/07 – 10/20/07
BOGO @ FYE
Pirates of the Caribbean 1+2
Prestige
Apocalypto
Wild Hogs
Reign of Fire
Bridge to Terabithia
Déj�* vu
GI Jane
Glory Road
Goal
Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back
King Arthur
The Queen
The Wild
Annapolis
The Lookout
Brothers Grimm
Casanova
The Great Raid

10/15 – 10/21
$9.99 @ Fry’s
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Fifth Element
Replacement Killers
A Few Good Men
Memoirs of a Geisha
Underworld
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
House of Flying Daggers
Hitch
Immortal Beloved
King Fu Hustle
Resident Evil: Apocalypse
Tears of the Sun
Layer Cake
Curse of the Golden Flower
Donnie Brasco
Blackjawk Down
Hellboy
Wild Things
The Patriot

10/15/07 – 10/22/07
BOGO @ Deepdiscountdvd.com
Disney titles including:
Annapolis
Apocalypto
Bridge to Terabithia
Chicago
Chicken Little
Déj�* vu
…and many more

10/15 – 10/21
BOGO @ Circuit City
INCLUDES:
Black Hawk Down
Finding Neverland
G.I. Jane
Haunted Mansion
House of Flying Daggers
Into the Blue
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
King Arthur
Knights Tale, A
Kung Fu Hustle
Layer Cake
Memento
Remember the Titans
Resident Evil: Apocalypse
Stealth
Tears of the Sun
Annapolis
Apocalypto
Bridge to Terabithia
Brothers Grimm
Casanova
Casino Royale
Chicago
Chicken Little
Click
Dark Water
Deja Vu
Dinosaur
Eight Below
Enemy of the State
Flightplan
Glory Road
Gone in 60 Seconds
Great Raid, The
Guardian, The
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Invincible
Ladder 49
Lookout
Open Season
Pearl Harbor
Pirates of the Carribean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest
Prestige, The
Primevil
Pursuit of Happyness
Queen, The
Reign of Fire
Rocky Balboa
Silent Hill
Sky High
Stranger than Fiction
Talladega Nights
Ultraviolet
Underworld Evolution
Wild Hogs
Wild, The

[grif32]

10/15 – 10/21
50% Off @ Best Buy
Invincible
Chicken Little
Wild Hogs
Eight Below
POTC 1 and 2
Gone in 60 Seconds
The Lookout
Pearl Harbor
Apocolypto
Deja Vu
Guardian
The Prestige
Enemy of the State

10/15 – 10/21
BOGO @ Amazon.com
Enemy of the State
The Queen
The Lookout
Pearl Harbor
Wild Hogs
Reign of Fire
Dark Water
Primeval
Dinosaur
The Wild
Eight Below
POTC: DMC
POTC: BP
Invincible
POTC: DMC
POTC: BP
…and more

10/15 – 10/21
BOGO @ TARGET
Wild Hogs
Apocalypto
Wild Hogs
Pirates 1 & 2
…and many more

11/9 – 11/15
BOGO @ Futureshop
20 Disney titles
Includes:
Ladder 49
Apocolypto
Déj�* vu
Pirates 1&2
The Prestige
…and more

11/11/07
BOGO @ Fry’s
20 Disney titles
Includes:
Apocalypto
Deju Vu
Pirates of the Caribbean (both volumes)
The Prestige
Wild Hogs
…and many more

11/11/07
BOGO @ Amazon
72 Sony titles (including Casino Royale, Rocky Balboa)
40 Disney titles (including Apocalypto, The Prestige, Pirates 1 & 2)

11/15/07
BOGO + $10 Off @ FYE
40 Disney titles (including Chicago, Brothers Grimm, Apocalypto)

11/16 - 11/25/07
55% Off @ Fry’s
FOX titles
Day After Tomorrow
28 Weeks Later
Kingdom Of Heaven
28 Days Later
Night At the Museum
X-Men: Last Stand
Alien vs. Predator
Ice Age: The Meltdown
The Fly
Eragon
Fantastic 4
Transporter
Transporter 2
Flyboys
Mr. Brooks
From Hell
Hills Have Eyes 2
(All $13.98 each)

11/16/07
$9.99 @ Fry’s
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Hollow Man
The Fifth Element (REMASTERED)
The Replacement Killers
A Few Good Men
Underworld
Memoirs Of A Geisha
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
The Patriot
Wild Things
Hellboy
Donnie Brasco
Curse Of The Golden Flower
Layer Cake
Tears Of The Sun
Black Hawk Down
Resident Evil: Apocolypse
The House Of Flying Daggers
Kung Fu Hustle
Stealth

11/19/07
55% Off @ Amazon

12/16
BOGO @ Best Buy
BOGO @ amazon

12/26
Up to 50% Off Blu-Ray
on many titles including
Ratatouille, Cars, Pirates

1/1/08 BOGO@amazon
96 Fox & Warner titles
including Harry Potters,
Die Hards, 300, 28 Weeks Later

[grif32]

Do you think they have that many BOGO's this coming year now?

[dayday6]

The WAR was really never BR vs HD DVD it was HDM vs DVD.

BR disc sales are STILL so small and it will continue to be for years to come. I dont see BR or HD DVD if Warner went RED instead of blu ever taking over DVD.

They will have to double the Bogo's this year compared to last year for them to really catch on. If you seen the list of Bogo's from last year it was insane.

Plus they need players under $200. Thats why I say the WAR is far from over.


It isn't a war with DVD, it is evolution.

SDTV was not in a war with HDTV, it evolved.
SDTV->EDTV->HDTV

This HD discs can only be in a war with downloads, and I think they will easily win that. People want physical media on there shelf.IMO

[dayday6]

Do you think they have that many BOGO's this coming year now?


Nope.

I don't think they will.
I actually only got in on one of the deals way back in Feb/March.

Most of the Bogo, was filler stuff I would not buy anyway.

[grif32]

It isn't a war with DVD, it is evolution.

SDTV was not in a war with HDTV, it evolved.
SDTV->EDTV->HDTV

This HD discs can only be in a war with downloads, and I think they will easily win that. People want physical media on there shelf.IMO

Not with the current pricing. It will NEVER happen..

DVD is still cheap and so are the players. HDM WILL NOT replace DVD.

I agree people want media on there shelf but not at the prices now. And lets hope BR continue's Bogo's and cheap players.

Chris

[dayday6]

I wonder how long the true insiders knew this was going to happen. I was at Target last night and I was shocked at how many 360 HD add-on they had. They had to have at least had 20 of them. I never seen that many, only when it was launched.

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

Well, a little let down by Warner's decision. Would have been if they went HD too. I think it was great that ANY studio was supporting both formats, made things a lot better for the consumer DESPITE what Warner says. I liked having the choice too.

Oh well. And again, this isn't a deathblow for HD....not yet anyway. And both formats combined only BARELY outsold VHS (which IS a dead format pretty much) last year. Neither one is going to be victorious....only continue to be niche markets.

[JaylisJayP]

HDM might be the evolution of DVD, but it will never be the full-out replacement.

At some point digital media will take hold. I'll fight it since I love my tangible discs, but I do see it happening in the next 10 years.

[grif32]

I wonder how long the true insiders knew this was going to happen. I was at Target last night and I was shocked at how many 360 HD add-on they had. They had to have at least had 20 of them. I never seen that many, only when it was launched.

My local TRU has a bunch and they have been marked down to $129.00 for a few months now. So it does make you wonder..

[dayday6]

Well, a little let down by Warner's decision. Would have been if they went HD too. I think it was great that ANY studio was supporting both formats, made things a lot better for the consumer DESPITE what Warner says. I liked having the choice too.

Oh well. And again, this isn't a deathblow for HD....not yet anyway. And both formats combined only BARELY outsold VHS (which IS a dead format pretty much) last year. Neither one is going to be victorious....only continue to be niche markets.


I can't see how they didn't outsell VHS.
VHS is not even stocked at stores anymore, and studios do not release on VHS either.
Where are you getting this from.

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

I can't see how they didn't outsell VHS.
VHS is not even stocked at stores anymore, and studios do not release on VHS either.
Where are you getting this from.

www.highdefdigest.com (http://www.highdefdigest.com)

The article is a couple months old, but both formats only edged out VHS. And yea, it's not stocked anymore, which is a HUGE indication of how small the sales really are compared to DVD.

[dayday6]

I'm not going to look through that site, but I am claiming BS.
There are plenty of HD format movies that sold a good amount, and they didn't have VHS to contend with.
Season sets, 300, Transformers, Spiderman plus others.

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

I'm not going to look through that site, but I am claiming BS.
There are plenty of HD format movies that sold a good amount, and they didn't have VHS to contend with.
Season sets, 300, Transformers, Spiderman plus others.

Call BS all you want, majority of the country doesn't have an HDTV to watch either format on. And while you don't see VHS is stores anymore, they aren't impossible to find....especially on line...and they're also dirt cheap...AND you also have to consider movies that haven't hit DVD yet, haven't hit either hi-def format yet and are only available on VHS.

So yea, don't actually look at the site...but call BS anyway just cuz you feel that's what's right. hidefdigest is one of the biggest/most reliable sources on both formats out there. the reviews can come a little slow, but as far as news, I usually get my info from them before I even see it on any other site.

[IceRat]

I have a large catalog of movies in the dvd format and not once during the BOGO promotions was I persuaded to need to/want to pick up any 2 movies offered

BOGOs will continue to exist to sway the market to mass adoption
more importantly once one standard is settled on we will start to see "quality" catalog being released by the studios and together just like with dvd, software prices will be driven down

[dayday6]

What is Microsoft's next plan now?
They were propping up Toshiba to keep the HD war going.

[jackbauer]

Do any of these BOGO,s ever come to Canada?

[grif32]

QVC sells a boat load of things on VHS.. Believe or not they really do. I was shock to learn this.

They offer things still on VHS... Watch QVC if you are really bored one night....

[dayday6]

QVC sells a boat load of things on VHS.. Believe or not they really do. I was shock to learn this.

They offer things still on VHS... Watch QVC if you are really bored one night....

I beleive it, my sister bought some Yoga tapes for my Mom. Grandma's will still buy it, I'm just saying no major store stocks them and no studios release VHS movies.

I would rather watch the rednecks on "Shop at Home" much more entertaining.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=7e77oXjFkIs
:D

[Radiation74]

Not with the current pricing. It will NEVER happen..

DVD is still cheap and so are the players. HDM WILL NOT replace DVD.

I agree people want media on there shelf but not at the prices now. And lets hope BR continue's Bogo's and cheap players.

Chris


It wasn't too long ago that I paid $25 + for new release SD DVD. LOTR, Matrix, Star Wars, etc. Big deal, BR and HD are 5 or 6 bucks more than that. If DVD hadn't been gouging the consumer, we'd all have huge libraries. I see LOTR trilogy for less than I paid for ONE lotr dvd, now that's insane.

[Radiation74]

I really think the BR case was better looking than HD, and the blu-ray name sounded better and was less confusing for alot of people. I know it sounds stupid, but I am sure people bought HD-dvds thinking they would play in their dvd player, and to make matters worse for the BURGUNDY, they had dual format HD/DVDs. Man, I know some people must have been like ????.

[dayday6]

It wasn't too long ago that I paid $25 + for new release SD DVD. LOTR, Matrix, Star Wars, etc. Big deal, BR and HD are 5 or 6 bucks more than that. If DVD hadn't been gouging the consumer, we'd all have huge libraries. I see LOTR trilogy for less than I paid for ONE lotr dvd, now that's insane.

I think one of the first DVDs I bought was X-Files Season 1, and it was around $100. It is $20 now. I never bought the other seasons.

[Wofford29]

So the real question is when the hell am I finally going to get Batman in Blu?

[grif32]

It wasn't too long ago that I paid $25 + for new release SD DVD. LOTR, Matrix, Star Wars, etc. Big deal, BR and HD are 5 or 6 bucks more than that. If DVD hadn't been gouging the consumer, we'd all have huge libraries. I see LOTR trilogy for less than I paid for ONE lotr dvd, now that's insane.

Its been a VERY long time since i have seen $25.00 movies...

$5 or $6 more?? What B&M store are you buying movies at?

Take away the Bogo's and walk into BB or CC and their Disc are alot more then $5 or $6 more over SD DVD's. Lets be real. Some as high as $10.00 more.

Your next argument will be "Online they are cheaper"

Well online SD DVD's are less expensive as well so it doesnt hold water.

HDM Disc might be $19.95 -$27.95 online but the same SD DVD will be

Just as an example. Live free die harder $27.95 online for BR $15.49 for SD DVD alot more then $5 - $6.

HDM disc are way to high now PERIOD! Average person WILL NOT spend the extra $10.00 per movie because they think their $90 1080P upscale DVD player looks amazing on their HD TV hooked up via composite cables.

Chris

[SBrooks1]

Damn... :(

Warner: New Line, HBO Not Covered By Blu-ray Announcement

Though it's widely expected that Warner Bros. subsidiaries New Line and HBO will follow Warner Home Entertainment to Blu-ray exclusivity, for the moment they remain format-agnostic.

That's according to Warner Home Entertainment President Kevin Tsujihara, who said that the studio's announcement that it would drop HD DVD support does not extend to titles released by New Line, HBO or the BBC (which Warner distributes here in the US).

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HBO/New_Line/Warner/Warner:_New_Line,_HBO_Not_Covered_By_Blu-ray_Announcement/1328

[grif32]

I really think the BR case was better looking than HD, and the blu-ray name sounded better and was less confusing for alot of people. I know it sounds stupid, but I am sure people bought HD-dvds thinking they would play in their dvd player, and to make matters worse for the BURGUNDY, they had dual format HD/DVDs. Man, I know some people must have been like ????.

I agree I like the Blu Cases better..

Chris

[grif32]

Damn... :(

Warner: New Line, HBO Not Covered By Blu-ray Announcement

Though it's widely expected that Warner Bros. subsidiaries New Line and HBO will follow Warner Home Entertainment to Blu-ray exclusivity, for the moment they remain format-agnostic.

That's according to Warner Home Entertainment President Kevin Tsujihara, who said that the studio's announcement that it would drop HD DVD support does not extend to titles released by New Line, HBO or the BBC (which Warner distributes here in the US).

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HBO/New_Line/Warner/Warner:_New_Line,_HBO_Not_Covered_By_Blu-ray_Announcement/1328

Give them time they will jump as well just like Universal/Paramount. Unless toshiba wants to try and dump some cash their way just to continue this thing.

[JaylisJayP]

Are there any HD DVD supporters here jumping ship now?

Seems like a lot of people on AVs are considering it...and apparently the # of HD DVDs on ebay for sale is double today what it usually is.

I, for one, have no intentions of jumping ship or avoiding purchasing new Paramount, Universal titles in the future...however long that HD DVD future may be.

[Radiation74]

Its been a VERY long time since i have seen $25.00 movies...

$5 or $6 more?? What B&M store are you buying movies at?

Take away the Bogo's and walk into BB or CC and their Disc are alot more then $5 or $6 more over SD DVD's. Lets be real. Some as high as $10.00 more.

Your next argument will be "Online they are cheaper"

Well online SD DVD's are less expensive as well so it doesnt hold water.

HDM Disc might be $19.95 -$27.95 online but the same SD DVD will be

Just as an example. Live free die harder $27.95 online for BR $15.49 for SD DVD alot more then $5 - $6.

HDM disc are way to high now PERIOD! Average person WILL NOT spend the extra $10.00 per movie because they think their $90 1080P upscale DVD player looks amazing on their HD TV hooked up via composite cables.

Chris

oh yes, now there is a huge difference. The first DVD I bought was Stigmata 25 bucks. Now Stigmata would be 5.99. I am saying that HDM is 5 or 6 dollars more now then when DVD was in its' prime.

[dayday6]

Are there any HD DVD supporters here jumping ship now?

Seems like a lot of people on AVs are considering it...and apparently the # of HD DVDs on ebay for sale is double today what it usually is.

I, for one, have no intentions of jumping ship or avoiding purchasing new Paramount, Universal titles in the future...however long that HD DVD future may be.



I am not jumping ship, but next year I am pretty sure I will give my HD-DVD player to my sister. She doesn't have a HDTV, so she can use it as a upconverter at least when she gets a HDTV.

[JaylisJayP]

oh yes, now there is a huge difference. The first DVD I bought was Stigmata 25 bucks. Now Stigmata would be 5.99. I am saying that HDM is 5 or 6 dollars more now then when DVD was in its' prime.

Dude, I love Stigmata!

Gabriel Byrne FTW!


...well, maybe not love. Like.

[Radiation74]

Transformers SD : http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FSM2140178&catid=14723&logon=&langid=EN


HDDVD http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FSM2140174&catid=24093&logon=&langid=EN


Blackhawk Down SD http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FSM2031433&catid=


BR http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FSM2120332&catid=

not that big of a price difference

[SBrooks1]

Holy hell, this is bigger than we realized!!! :eek:

I just received an email from the HD DVD Promotion Group stating that the CES 2008 HD DVD press event has been canceled. The recent Blu-ray exclusive announcement from Warner is cited as the reason for the event being canceled. You can find the full text of the notice below.

Notice of CES Press Conference Cancellation by North American HD DVD Promotion Group

“Based on the timing of the Warner Home Video announcement today, we have decided to postpone our CES 2008 press conference scheduled for Sunday, January 6th at 8:30 p.m. in the Wynn Hotel. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

We are currently discussing the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluating next steps. We believe the consumer continues to benefit from HD DVD’s commitment to quality and affordability – a bar that is critical for the mainstream success of any format.

We’ll continue to keep you updated on new developments around HD DVD.”

http://wesleytech.com

[grif32]

Harry Potter on BR back up on the Amazon Bogo's

[grif32]

Transformers SD : http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FSM2140178&catid=14723&logon=&langid=EN


HDDVD http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FSM2140174&catid=24093&logon=&langid=EN


Blackhawk Down SD http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FSM2031433&catid=


BR http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FSM2120332&catid=

not that big of a price difference

LOL the first one is $10.00 as I stated not $5 or $6

And the second is not even comparing the same movie really.

The SD DVD is a 3 DISC Deluxe Edition.

LOL cmon lets be real here.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/102-1801929-0750544?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=black+hawk+down

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Hawk-Down-Blu-ray-Hartnett/dp/B000G0O5N2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1199501470&sr=8-2

Now compare the same movie...

[grif32]

Holy hell, this is bigger than we realized!!! :eek:

What did you expect?? HD DVD did not see this coming. Just like BR didnt see Paramount leaving...

Chris

[Radiation74]

My point was ......

someone said DVD is cheap. it is cheap now. But that wasn't always the case. Years ago, like I said earlier, SD DVDs were 25.00. Basically, the same thing we pay for HDM now. That's my point.

[SBrooks1]

What did you expect?? HD DVD did not see this coming. Just like BR didnt see Paramount leaving...

This is much bigger than Paramount and it's permanent unlike Paramount with HD DVD.

[grif32]

This is much bigger than Paramount and it's permanent unlike Paramount with HD DVD.

Correct it is much bigger since the payout was 3 times that of paramount.

This is a joke..

[SBrooks1]

Correct it is much bigger since the payout was 3 times that of paramount.

This is a joke..

No payout is confirmed. The Paramount payoff was widely known. Until one such is confirmed just sit back and enjoy the fact that this format war is almost over. :D

[grif32]

Oh well now let all just enjoy HDM and Hopefully the Bogo's keep coming.

I just returned my Unopened Harry Potters in HD DVD back to amazon and ordered All the Harry Potters on BR thanks to the Bogo going on. :) I couldnt stand having 5 in HD DVD and 2 in blu ray :)

[dayday6]

Oh well now let all just enjoy HDM and Hopefully the Bogo's keep coming.

I just returned my Unopened Harry Potters in HD DVD back to amazon and ordered All the Harry Potters on BR thanks to the Bogo going on. :) I couldnt stand having 5 in HD DVD and 2 in blu ray :)

:D

Jumping ship already?

[Preditor74]

:D

Jumping ship already?

I was an HD-DVD supporter from June 2006.

In November 2007 I finally picked up a PS3 and became purple just so I wouldn't miss out on so many titles. Then about a week later the "Warner Rumor" began. After that I decided I would be buying titles in Blu Ray when it came to a choice of which format...and thanks to Amazon's BOGO I quickly built up a nice library.

As of this announcment, I will not be buying another HD-DVD. If I want to watch Bourne Ultimatum, I will rent it in HD or wait for the eventual Blu release...same goes with every other title.

I am not upset by this announcment what so ever...in fact I somehow feel a little more secure knowing that by purchasing Blu titles now I will be investing in the "safe" format. As for my 40+ HD-DVDs...Ill definetly keep them along with my player. Chances are when they are released on Blu they will look a lot like the HD versions.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I just got an HD-DVD player and I plan on getting a Blu Ray (probably PS3) soon. I dont mind the format war. I think its good. If both compete with each other and put out BOGO's its great for us. I dont see the big deal with 2 brands competing and having both in the entertainment system.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Any news on a BB HD-DVD Bogo this coming week?

[dayday6]

I was an HD-DVD supporter from June 2006.

In November 2007 I finally picked up a PS3 and became purple just so I wouldn't miss out on so many titles. Then about a week later the "Warner Rumor" began. After that I decided I would be buying titles in Blu Ray when it came to a choice of which format...and thanks to Amazon's BOGO I quickly built up a nice library.

As of this announcment, I will not be buying another HD-DVD. If I want to watch Bourne Ultimatum, I will rent it in HD or wait for the eventual Blu release...same goes with every other title.

I am not upset by this announcment what so ever...in fact I somehow feel a little more secure knowing that by purchasing Blu titles now I will be investing in the "safe" format. As for my 40+ HD-DVDs...Ill definetly keep them along with my player. Chances are when they are released on Blu they will look a lot like the HD versions.

I was Blu from the beginning because I had a PS3. I wouldn't have gone either way with a stand alone. I got my HD-DVD player for $98 at the super secret Friday Walmart sale. I bought Transformers at the store and Matrix trilogy & Heroes season 1 off of Grif. All other titles were going to be Blu-ray only.

[dayday6]

I just got an HD-DVD player and I plan on getting a Blu Ray (probably PS3) soon. I dont mind the format war. I think its good. If both compete with each other and put out BOGO's its great for us. I dont see the big deal with 2 brands competing and having both in the entertainment system.


The big deal is because it is not necessary to have 2.
My TV has 1 HDMI input, they both can't be plugged into the TV.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Im going to be getting rid of a few of my HD Warner Titles. Its going to be tough getting used to paying high BD prices. I think the BOGO's will go on for a lil while longer then disappear

[IceRat]

I think the BOGO's will go on for a lil while longer then disappear
deep discounting will not go away

don't forget companies like Sony have HD TVs they are looking to sell as well with their brand name on them

competition doesn't go away it just goes from 1 main format of standard def to 1 main format of hi def

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Damm I checked the prices on the HD versions of Harry Potter and those are about $9-12

[johnnyknoxsvill]

But you have to think of the name behind it and thats Sony. They will milk the cash cow for as long as they can before we see prices drop. But that applies to almost all company's, so I have no real point....lol

[dayday6]

But you have to think of the name behind it and thats Sony. They will milk the cash cow for as long as they can before we see prices drop. But that applies to almost all company's, so I have no real point....lol

:D
Yep, it is not a charity.

[dayday6]

2 part question.
Will Microsoft announce a Blu-ray drive add-on for the 360, and will you 360 owners buy it?


I remember Microsoft saying they will support the winning format, because they want there users to have a choice.

I want them to eat their words.:D

[HollandX]

monthly new releases are going to be hilarious now.

BD: 50
HD: 2

[dayday6]

monthly new releases are going to be hilarious now.

BD: 50
HD: 2

All the commercials I have seen the past week were DVD/BD.
Resident Evil multiple times, War and some others.

I have not seen a HD-DVD commercial since Shrek.

[HollandX]

yeah the BD commercials are PIMP.

*BOOM* DO YOU WANT IT?
*BOOM* DO YOU NEED IT?

me: yes, please.

[dayday6]

yeah the BD commercials are PIMP.

*BOOM* DO YOU WANT IT?
*BOOM* DO YOU NEED IT?

me: yes, please.

:D
That is PS3.
I like that commercial as well, it is better than the baby in the White room.

[JaylisJayP]

2 part question.
Will Microsoft announce a Blu-ray drive add-on for the 360, and will you 360 owners buy it?


I remember Microsoft saying they will support the winning format, because they want there users to have a choice.

I want them to eat their words.:D

If Microsoft puts one out I will absolutely, absolutely buy it. I've been looking for a second blu-ray player and if I could get one for under $200, it'd be great.

[oaktown2000]

Hurry.....Don't Delay.....Build your BluRay collection....Today :D

$42 dlvd -
The Simpsons
Unforgiven
Relentless Enemies
Layer Cake

All are open...but in perfect, pristine condition. Viewed once.

I mean...for Pete's sake...Simpsons is almost $30 alone. Then consider shipping. What more can I offer? Besides some dirty cheap sex.

Alright...I'll throw in some dirty cheap sex for $43 dlvd

[avsfan21]

Well I guess I wont buy a HD-DVD player now.

[HollandX]

If Microsoft puts one out I will absolutely, absolutely buy it. I've been looking for a second blu-ray player and if I could get one for under $200, it'd be great.

m$ hinted in the past that if BD was the true winner, they would put out a BD add-on for the 360

[dayday6]

If Microsoft puts one out I will absolutely, absolutely buy it. I've been looking for a second blu-ray player and if I could get one for under $200, it'd be great.

I wonder what that Voltron setup will look like.:) I also seen on Gamestop.com they have a HDMI kit for older 360s.:confused:

Damn those 360s will be pimped out.
1.Wireless adapter antenna
2.HDMI kit
3.HD-DVD drive
4.Blu-ray drive
And I will form the head.:p

[HollandX]

Well I guess I wont buy a HD-DVD player now. I presume this to be the thought of a clear majority. What's the point now?

[avsfan21]

I presume this to be the thought of a clear majority. What's the point now?

I was going to get one to hold me off until I had the money for a PS3, but I guess it is pointless now.

[imaginegrafix]

Blu bois out in full force on the spawn board tonight I see - Honestly, that is the only reason I really wanted to sell blu lose - I can't stand it when they run their mouths, just enjoy the damn movies! It's like some people like a format more than they like the movies!

Anyhow, I'm still pretty surprised by this - but I'm curious to see what happens over the next week or so with tosh. One thing I was baffled by is why it is not going into effect until May, anyone have insight on that?

[JaylisJayP]

Oak...I might have a change of heart.

Want to do Simpson, Unforgiven and Relentless to me for $30 - you save on shipping :)

Also, you can probably keep the sex.

[dayday6]

m$ hinted in the past that if BD was the true winner, they would put out a BD add-on for the 360


I think they were just BSing though. That is why when CES comes around they will definately be asked about it. I want to see them squirm.

"We want our users to have a choice":rolleyes:

[oaktown2000]

mannnnnn.....$30??? We might as well have sex....your azz raping me anyways :D

[oaktown2000]

$31....and somehow...someway....you get my name in the Stuart News...in a secret...acronym....espionage...kinda way :D

[JaylisJayP]

You're basically selling those 4 for $30 if you have to pay to ship it somewhere....no?

:p

[JaylisJayP]

$31

SOLD....for sure this time.

[Chugga]

I was going to get one to hold me off until I had the money for a PS3, but I guess it is pointless now.



Well it's definately pointless to get a HD DVD player now, as sad as it is (and believe me I have no idea why people are going to do this....but they will) people are going to start selling off their HD DVD stuff in bundles and for cheap as hell.

I came into the Blu-Ray thing back in October of 06 and at that time I knew for a fact that my format could lose but the whole idea was as long as I had a player (soon to be released PS3) then who cared who won or lost. But you've got people now who see their format of choice possibly losing and they are starting up firesales on all of their stuff. If you truly did want a HD DVD player I certainly wouldn't buy one at retail anymore, the prices are going to start bottoming out.

I just don't get it....when I went into a store and bought Superbad I bought the movie because I wanted to watch it as many times as I felt like over the course of the next 10 years....whether or not my format of choice won or lost didn't mean anything, I just wanted to see the movie in high def. So people selling their collections, ehh I don't get it. The only thing I would sell if anything if I were on the HD DVD side of the fence was warner releases...I'd trade those off.

[HollandX]

I think they were just BSing though. That is why when CES comes around they will definately be asked about it. I want to see them squirm.

"We want our users to have a choice":rolleyes:

it's going to be funny when they announce the ultimate xbox 360 this weekend with built-in hd dvd player and dvr functionality.

when they unveil the presumably high cost?

<crickets>

[oaktown2000]

SOLD....for sure this time.


Are you sure? I don't want to take food off your nanny's plate ;)

[JaylisJayP]

Well it's definately pointless to get a HD DVD player now, as sad as it is (and believe me I have no idea why people are going to do this....but they will) people are going to start selling off their HD DVD stuff in bundles and for cheap as hell.

I came into the Blu-Ray thing back in October of 06 and at that time I knew for a fact that my format could lose but the whole idea was as long as I had a player (soon to be released PS3) then who cared who won or lost. But you've got people now who see their format of choice possibly losing and they are starting up firesales on all of their stuff. If you truly did want a HD DVD player I certainly wouldn't buy one at retail anymore, the prices are going to start bottoming out.

I just don't get it....when I went into a store and bought Superbad I bought the movie because I wanted to watch it as many times as I felt like over the course of the next 10 years....whether or not my format of choice won or lost didn't mean anything, I just wanted to see the movie in high def. So people selling their collections, ehh I don't get it. The only thing I would sell if anything if I were on the HD DVD side of the fence was warner releases...I'd trade those off.

Well said....although I'm not even sure it makes sense to trade off my Warner HD DVDs...since I want the movies and I'd get less for them on HD DVD than I would rebuying or trading for them on blu.

It will suck having my 5 Potter HD DVDs and 2 Potter blu-rays, but what are you gonna do.

[JaylisJayP]

Are you sure? I don't want to take food off your nanny's plate ;)

She eats when I tell her to eat.

[IceRat]

I wonder what that Voltron setup will look like.:)
:D

[avsfan21]

I was pretty sure that Blu-ray would win out. It is just better technology. The Blu-ray was able to handle more disc space, since HD-DVDs are just regular dvds with more compression on them. It was just going to take some time for the Technology to become cheap enough to actually sell players for a reasonable price, which probably still hasnt happened yet.

[Chugga]

Well said....although I'm not even sure it makes sense to trade off my Warner HD DVDs...since I want the movies and I'd get less for them on HD DVD than I would rebuying or trading for them on blu.

It will suck having my 5 Potter HD DVDs and 2 Potter blu-rays, but what are you gonna do.

Thats the main reason I'd do a trade-off. Me personally I'm pretty anal about stupid stuff like that. I wouldn't want 5 red cases of harry potter and then 2 blue ones. It's one of the main reasons even though I got all 5 harry potter movies I didn't get the boxed set. I didn't want that giant box looking like an eyesore on my shelf.

Same with something like Batman Begins...if I had it in red and know I know the sequel would be blue thats another I'd switch out.

[imaginegrafix]

it's going to be funny when they announce the ultimate xbox 360 this weekend with built-in hd dvd player and dvr functionality.

when they unveil the presumably high cost?

<crickets>

Post it a 3rd time why don't you:rolleyes:

[WingNut 25]

I'm glad I bought the Ocean's trilogy and the Potter box set on BR.

[imaginegrafix]

Well it's definately pointless to get a HD DVD player now, as sad as it is (and believe me I have no idea why people are going to do this....but they will) people are going to start selling off their HD DVD stuff in bundles and for cheap as hell.

I came into the Blu-Ray thing back in October of 06 and at that time I knew for a fact that my format could lose but the whole idea was as long as I had a player (soon to be released PS3) then who cared who won or lost. But you've got people now who see their format of choice possibly losing and they are starting up firesales on all of their stuff. If you truly did want a HD DVD player I certainly wouldn't buy one at retail anymore, the prices are going to start bottoming out.

I just don't get it....when I went into a store and bought Superbad I bought the movie because I wanted to watch it as many times as I felt like over the course of the next 10 years....whether or not my format of choice won or lost didn't mean anything, I just wanted to see the movie in high def. So people selling their collections, ehh I don't get it. The only thing I would sell if anything if I were on the HD DVD side of the fence was warner releases...I'd trade those off.

I copmletely agree - I own both but don't plan on selling any hd dvd movies that I bought to keep for the long haul, it's still HD and the blu versions aren't any better.

I'm all for people selling their collections though - should be able to get some nice deals:D - It goes back to what I said a few posts above though, it seems like a lot of people are more in love w/ "their" format rather than the movies in HD.

[dayday6]

it's going to be funny when they announce the ultimate xbox 360 this weekend with built-in hd dvd player and dvr functionality.

when they unveil the presumably high cost?

<crickets>

Too bad Warner anounced before Bill Gates keynote.:mad:

Now if they were going to do that, they will scrap the HD-DVD part of it.:D

[HollandX]

Post it a 3rd time why don't you:rolleyes:

um. ok?

i think you implied earlier that i was a BD fanboy or something.

Here's my hi def collection breakdown:

Total Blu-Ray Discs 44
Total HD DVDs 50



yup. i'm a damned dirty fanboy

[avsfan21]

um. ok?

i think you implied earlier that i was a BD fanboy or something.

Here's my hi def collection breakdown:

Total Blu-Ray Discs 44
Total HD DVDs 50



yup. i'm a damned dirty fanboy

I hate those Thrashers fanboys.

[HollandX]

I hate those Thrashers fanboys.

:(

[imaginegrafix]

um. ok?

i think you implied earlier that i was a BD fanboy or something.

Here's my hi def collection breakdown:

Total Blu-Ray Discs 44
Total HD DVDs 50

yup. i'm a damned dirty fanboy

Was more just saying that you really don't need to post the same thing you posted 2 pages ago....

Must suck to have gotten Harry Potters 1-5 on hd dvd. you'll never finish that collection now!

want 6 and 7? buy a ps3, *****!

.......... sounds like a fan boy to me.

[avsfan21]

I admit it I am a PS3 fanboy and I dont even have one. Go me. Ok now that is over, can we move on.

[dayday6]

Was more just saying that you really don't need to post the same thing you posted 2 pages ago....



.......... sounds like a fan boy to me.


Don't be so sensitive, life is much more fun that way.

I'm enjoying it because the internet is exploding on that side, and the suits are squirming.
HD-DVD already canceled there event at CES.:D

[dayday6]

I admit it I am a PS3 fanboy and I dont even have one. Go me. Ok now that is over, can we move on.

Get one, what is the hold up?

File your tax return early.:)

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

The more I think about it, the more pissed I am about Warner. Whether they went to HD or Blu, the way they went about it is totally unprofessional. Not only did they not say a thing to the HD camp before hand (they found out just like the public), they pull it out of nowhere just a day or so before CES, thus completely cacelling Toshiba's press conference, and Toshiba has already mentioned that they had had some contractual agreements with Warner that this move might be infringing on.

Warner's Prez was a bit TOO quick to deny a pay off, but...it's a HUGE turn around from just a month or so ago firmly stating they were committed to bringing people both formats. And it's not like they'd admit it. Sorry, but to randomly change stance from just over a month ago, and to do so without warning on the eve of CES....screams strategic pay off.

Again, I don't care which side they went with...I care about how they handled it, and it's not very professional.

[Chugga]

I admit it I am a PS3 fanboy and I dont even have one. Go me. Ok now that is over, can we move on.

Yeah you really do seem to like the PS3 in your posts but I wouldn't have been able to tell seeing how much you are on Xbox Live.

[imaginegrafix]

Don't be so sensitive, life is much more fun that way.

I'm enjoying it because the internet is exploding on that side, and the suits are squirming.
HD-DVD already canceled there event at CES.:D

Yeah, I saw that - that's why I'm real curious to see where things go in the next week or so with tosh and I'm still baffled as to why Warner's switch doesn't take place for another 4 months.

Not really being sensitive about it - just don't feel like we need comments like "can't finish your potter collection now - buy a ps3 *****". This has been a great thread since day one that has stayed pretty much neutral, if you want to argue about the winning format, or whose format is better, etc., etc. - there are tons of places to do it.

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

Don't be so sensitive, life is much more fun that way.

I'm enjoying it because the internet is exploding on that side, and the suits are squirming.
HD-DVD already canceled there event at CES.:D
Probably because if showcased a lot of WB titles. That's not squirming....it's keeping themselves from squirming. What were they going to do, clear their throats every couple minutes to say "ignore this slide...that title is no longer coming" or just have the audience stare at the wall for a good chunk of the original run time?

They saved a lot more face just cancelling rather than randomly patching the keynote speech.

[imaginegrafix]

The more I think about it, the more pissed I am about Warner. Whether they went to HD or Blu, the way they went about it is totally unprofessional. Not only did they not say a thing to the HD camp before hand (they found out just like the public), they pull it out of nowhere just a day or so before CES, thus completely cacelling Toshiba's press conference, and Toshiba has already mentioned that they had had some contractual agreements with Warner that this move might be infringing on.

Warner's Prez was a bit TOO quick to deny a pay off, but...it's a HUGE turn around from just a month or so ago firmly stating they were committed to bringing people both formats. And it's not like they'd admit it. Sorry, but to randomly change stance from just over a month ago, and to do so without warning on the eve of CES....screams strategic pay off.

Again, I don't care which side they went with...I care about how they handled it, and it's not very professional.

$450 million will make you do some unprofessional things

[avsfan21]

Yeah you really do seem to like the PS3 in your posts but I wouldn't have been able to tell seeing how much you are on Xbox Live.

Well it is hard to play a PS3 when you dont have one, but I still think that the PS3 is the better system. When I get one down the road, maybe my time on Xbox live will change. I mean I am already thinking about ditching my gold account since I rarely play with anyone online anymore.

[WitchKingOfAngmar]

Yeah, I saw that - that's why I'm real curious to see where things go in the next week or so with tosh and I'm still baffled as to why Warner's switch doesn't take place for another 4 months.

Not really being sensitive about it - just don't feel like we need comments like "can't finish your potter collection now - buy a ps3 *****". This has been a great thread since day one that has stayed pretty much neutral, if you want to argue about the winning format, or whose format is better, etc., etc. - there are tons of places to do it.
He can't stop....Sony's genitals taste too good....and they don't even have to pay him.

[dayday6]

The more I think about it, the more pissed I am about Warner. Whether they went to HD or Blu, the way they went about it is totally unprofessional. Not only did they not say a thing to the HD camp before hand (they found out just like the public), they pull it out of nowhere just a day or so before CES, thus completely cacelling Toshiba's press conference, and Toshiba has already mentioned that they had had some contractual agreements with Warner that this move might be infringing on.

Warner's Prez was a bit TOO quick to deny a pay off, but...it's a HUGE turn around from just a month or so ago firmly stating they were committed to bringing people both formats. And it's not like they'd admit it. Sorry, but to randomly change stance from just over a month ago, and to do so without warning on the eve of CES....screams strategic pay off.

Again, I don't care which side they went with...I care about how they handled it, and it's not very professional.

It was well over a month ago when they were rumored to go exclusive Blu-ray and they denied it. They said they will continue to evaluate both sides.

[imaginegrafix]

Is seabiscuit any good?

[dayday6]

He can't stop....Sony's genitals taste too good....and they don't even have to pay him.

Quit catching feelings.

It has always been to the victor goes the spoils.

I remember Sony was upset when HD-DVD bought Paramount, they said the consumers should decide, well now if they paid they are playing dirty pool as well.


Alls fair in love & war.;)

[avsfan21]

I really liked Seabiscuit. Although it really isnt a movie that I would watch more than once or twice.

[dayday6]

Probably because if showcased a lot of WB titles. That's not squirming....it's keeping themselves from squirming. What were they going to do, clear their throats every couple minutes to say "ignore this slide...that title is no longer coming" or just have the audience stare at the wall for a good chunk of the original run time?

They saved a lot more face just cancelling rather than randomly patching the keynote speech.


I'm not saying they shouldn't cancel it, I'm just laughing about it.

[Chugga]

The more I think about it, the more pissed I am about Warner. Whether they went to HD or Blu, the way they went about it is totally unprofessional. Not only did they not say a thing to the HD camp before hand (they found out just like the public), they pull it out of nowhere just a day or so before CES, thus completely cacelling Toshiba's press conference, and Toshiba has already mentioned that they had had some contractual agreements with Warner that this move might be infringing on.

Warner's Prez was a bit TOO quick to deny a pay off, but...it's a HUGE turn around from just a month or so ago firmly stating they were committed to bringing people both formats. And it's not like they'd admit it. Sorry, but to randomly change stance from just over a month ago, and to do so without warning on the eve of CES....screams strategic pay off.

Again, I don't care which side they went with...I care about how they handled it, and it's not very professional.

Well we all know money changed hands, the cool thing to do is to deny it. But we are talking about a 20 billion dollar industry so if money doesn't change hands then theres something horribly wrong with how they run their business. Same thing happened with Paramount, I don't care if they got money, you just gotta admit that somewhere down the line a dollar or 2 may have entered your palm.

The thing with Warner is the HD market is so fragile and wide open that you can't "give warning". You "give warning" to Toshiba and 30 seconds later Avsforum.com has official word from an industry insider that Warner is going exclusive. And if this word gets out before you are about to release Oceans 13 or Harry Potter on both formats then you've completely screwed the pooch. No one besides the diehards of the format will buy the version that they know you are going to ditch out on.

I honestly don't think theres a "right way" to drop format neutrality. No matter how you do it, no matter when you do it, no matter where you do it it's going absolutely suck and cause a giant stir.

If Warner drops neutrality during CES then their 1 hour long presentation turns into 12 hours when they constantly have to listen to crying and field 1 million different questions. Not to mention deal with telling Toshiba DURING the show that "oh yeah we aren't showing up to that thing anymore that starts in 2 hours".

If Warner drops neutrality after CES then in my opinion it's even worse because then you are up on stage shaking hands with Toshiba telling them how much you love them knowing very well your dagger is planted squarely in their back the minute you leave Las Vegas.

If anything I think before CES is probably the way to go...granted Toshiba is definately hurting right now and not knowing what the hell hit them they still have a week (if they hold of to the end) to get together with their allies, come up with a gameplan, and present it for the crowds.

To be honest though like I said theres just no way to do this type of thing gracefully. And you and I both know that if you were doing any sort of research or on the internet at all in the last 3 months regardless of how much Warner denied EVERYONE knew they were going exclusive around CES it was just a matter of with who. It's just like Xbox360 denying a HDMI 360, deny deny deny, then 2 months later I'm waiting in line to buy one. Or how about Mcfarlane saying their won't be a chase of this certain figure, deny, deny, deny...theres one on Ebay. Thats just how things go.

[oaktown2000]

I think you guys type too much. Pop in a HD movie...and enjoy it :)

[Chugga]

Like Alexander

[oaktown2000]

lol.....Alexander....on either format...is terrible......I tried to tell you....but you said the homo-erotic overtones were something that you really liked about the movie....whatever

[oaktown2000]

watch Braveheart already ya fool

[Chugga]

You just don't like it because your a hom*phobe....sure seeing 2 men hug like 50 times in a 3 hour long movie is a little weird but they fight elephants, how badass is an epic elephant fight. How many movies can claim they have a fight where a dude gets his head stepped on by an elephant only to have that elephants trunk chopped off like 2 seconds later.

[avsfan21]

lol.....Alexander....on either format...is terrible......I tried to tell you....but you said the homo-erotic overtones were something that you really liked about the movie....whatever

See you are wrong on that Keith. It is on any format, not just either. DVD, VHS, Laser disc, HD-DVD, Blu-ray, implants when those are invented.

[HollandX]

Is seabiscuit any good?

yeah it's good. i like it. it'll make you feel warm and smooshy inside. william h. macy is hilarious in a bit part.

[Radiation74]

lol.....Alexander....on either format...is terrible......I tried to tell you....but you said the homo-erotic overtones were something that you really liked about the movie....whatever


lol.......... really?!?!

[Chugga]

Funny joke but it doesn't change the fact that you have imported Ricky Martin Live in Concert on Blu-ray.

[Chugga]

So tell me how is his chest hair in 1080p? Or have you not watched it yet...waiting for the wife to go to bed?

[JaylisJayP]

All I know is that the best damn movie of the year ... Eastern Promises ... is currently still HD DVD exclusive.

**follows up with the Viggo fingers to the neck move he does**

[oaktown2000]

Funny joke but it doesn't change the fact that you have imported Ricky Martin Live in Concert on Blu-ray.


lol....o rly

[Radiation74]

So tell me how is his chest hair in 1080p? Or have you not watched it yet...waiting for the wife to go to bed?


that might be a trick question, I bet he doesn't have hair in 1080 P..........

[imaginegrafix]

All I know is that the best damn movie of the year ... Eastern Promises ... is currently still HD DVD exclusive.

**follows up with the Viggo fingers to the neck move he does**

I've been reluctant to purchase, is it really that good? I just keep thinking of History of Violence when I see the trailer.... and that movie was one of the worst I've ever seen.

[oaktown2000]

History of Violence.... and that movie was one of the worst I've ever seen.

true that

[Chugga]

All I know is that the best damn movie of the year ... Eastern Promises ... is currently still HD DVD exclusive.

**follows up with the Viggo fingers to the neck move he does**

Ahh but the best damn movie of all time is currently still Blu-Ray exclusive.

**follows up by throwing Creasy bear at your face**

[oaktown2000]

I've yet to see Eastern Promises....but Man on Fire is good. Damn good. Best Damn Movie Of All Time good? Nah.

[oaktown2000]

I bet some are reading your response and thinking....why the F would chugga throw a greasy bear at Jay's face???

[Chugga]

You've also yet to see Big Fish. Which in my opinion might actually be better then Man on Fire

[avsfan21]

I didnt know that Wargames was a Blu-Ray exclusive.

[avsfan21]

You've also yet to see Big Fish. Which in my opinion might actually be better then Man on Fire

Big Fish is an awesome movie.

[Chugga]

I bet some are reading your response and thinking....why the F would chugga throw a greasy bear at Jay's face???

Yeah I was going to include the movie title but decided against it. If you know the movie then you know it. If you don't then you should be at your best buy bright in early this tuesday.

[oaktown2000]

Next time I see it on Bogo...or someone here offers a good deal on it...I'll snag it.

I'm just praying that your positive review of it has nothing to do with the same part of your brain that enjoys Alexander.

[imaginegrafix]

Big Fish and Man on Fire are great - Alexander on the other hand.......

[Chugga]

Why don't you just go to best buy on tuesday and pretend theres a bogo. Pick up Man on Fire and Big Fish and pretend you paid $60 for Man on Fire and got Big Fish for free. It's not like Man on Fire isn't worth $60 anyways.

[IceRat]

New Line is still neutral. They were supposed to release movies like Hairspray and Shoot 'em Up later on HD DVD. This might swing them to complete Blu-ray exclusivity though. Hopefully. :D

Warner sister company New Line confirmed it will shift allegiance to Blu-ray only as well.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117978461.html?categoryid=1009&cs=1

[avsfan21]

Well I guess that LOTR will be Blu-ray now.

[oaktown2000]

Why don't you just go to best buy on tuesday and pretend theres a bogo. Pick up Man on Fire and Big Fish and pretend you paid $60 for Man on Fire and got Big Fish for free. It's not like Man on Fire isn't worth $60 anyways.

Because I'm spoiled. I do not (will not) buy catalog titles on release day. They will be in a BOGO or other type deal in the future.

[Chugga]

Well Big Fish is in like every BOGO known to man so I guess you could wait a bit.

[imaginegrafix]

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117978461.html?categoryid=1009&cs=1

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HBO/New_Line/Warner/Warner:_New_Line,_HBO_Not_Covered_By_Blu-ray_Announcement/1328

New line and HBO are not covered according to this link - a bit odd that high def would have the wrong info in an article posted several hours later, if the info in your link is correct.

[JaylisJayP]

I've been reluctant to purchase, is it really that good? I just keep thinking of History of Violence when I see the trailer.... and that movie was one of the worst I've ever seen.

I also hated History of Violence.

Eastern Promises was right up my alley. I thought it was flat out awesome. But rent it first, see for yourself.

[IceRat]

I don't for a minute doubt the info in the Variety article
it even includes the info of the HD DVD Promo Group cancelling its Sunday CES confab which I believe wasn't made public until earlier tonight

not sure about the time stamps on the articles but like I said I trust Variety to be the most up to date info regarding the New Line stance considering they site a direct confirmation from the source

[JaylisJayP]

Yeah I was going to include the movie title but decided against it. If you know the movie then you know it. If you don't then you should be at your best buy bright in early this tuesday.

I'm drawing a blank on this one.

[oaktown2000]

he's talking about "Man On Fire"

[dayday6]

What is the strategy now?
Will you ditch HD-DVD?
Will you put a moratorium on HD-DVD and keep what you got?
Will you buy up peoples fire sales?

[imaginegrafix]

I'll still buy hd dvd - picking up zodiac on Tues. - if it's dual format I'll buy blu though, but otherwise I have no problem buying hd dvd, I'm in it for the movies. It looks very bleak, but they aren't dead yet. You never know what could happen.

I already bought a few movies off of ebay in peoples fire sales and expect to buy a lot more over the next few months - fire sales equal cheap hd movies for me.

[freezerfuel]

Considering I was going to go neutral this year anyway it doesn't sting too bad, but I can't help but feel like the bad guys just kicked the good guys in the junk, oh well.

0 chance I'll sell off any HD DVD's, they're in HD and I don't need to replace HD with a different HD.

Pretty sad most people will panic and sell their HD DVD collections. Depending on how long HD DVD can hold up there's some more releases I'll still get.

[avsfan21]

I might look at picking up a hd-dvd player still if I can find one for a good deal if someone is trying to ditch it with all the news that has come down.

[giantSFortyniners]

$15 DLVD EACH OR $25 FOR BOTH DLVD.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa19/marvelusmayo/DSC02107.jpg
BOTH STILL SEALED

[giantSFortyniners]

ha...didnt realize what was being talked about before i posted....bad timing i guess. but to keep it on topic...im not ditching hd...just getting rid of the ones i dont want and i really do need some extra cash rite now so help me out.

[imaginegrafix]

Just bought 16 hd dvd movies for $125 - I have a few of them, so I'll sell those ones off but you can't beat $7 and some change for hd movies - I love fire sales!

[avsfan21]

Just bought 16 hd dvd movies for $125 - I have a few of them, so I'll sell those ones off but you can't beat $7 and some change for hd movies - I love fire sales!

Fire sales arent fun. It ruins transportation, communication and it scares people.

[dayday6]

Just bought 16 hd dvd movies for $125 - I have a few of them, so I'll sell those ones off but you can't beat $7 and some change for hd movies - I love fire sales!

Yep, that is better than the bogos.:)

[imaginegrafix]

Fire sales arent fun. It ruins transportation, communication and it scares people.

Obviously the person selling the movies at $7 and some change was already scared :)

I keep going back to what Chugga said, I'm buying these movies to watch in HD for a long time - even if the format is dead by the end of the year my hd dvd player will still play hd dvd's, and they'll still look damn good!

[freezerfuel]

Yep, gotta love fire sales.

If Amazon or whatever place has a "buy 1 get 3 free" sale I'll go on a shopping spree like never before.

[thaderules]

I'm keeping my HD-A1. The movies I have on HD's have replay values so I'll definitely keep all of them. Fire sale means I can probably get box sets for really cheap price.

[grif32]

:D

Jumping ship already?

No way. I will continue to support HD DVD all the way as long as there are titles.

I just want my set to be complete in either Red or Blue not a mix of both. Thats all

[grif32]

Let the firesale begin. I will buy up titles cheap on HD DVD all day long. Heck I might even get a new HD DVD player if I can get it cheap enough.

[avsfan21]

Where are all you guys going to find these deals?

[JaylisJayP]

Let the firesale begin. I will buy up titles cheap on HD DVD all day long. Heck I might even get a new HD DVD player if I can get it cheap enough.


same here.

[grif32]

Well WB was paid $500 million to switch.. Wonder what Fox was paid.

http://formatwarcentral.com/index.php/2008/01/04/warner-swayed-by-500-million-from-the-bda/

I know WB denies it but lets be real.

I wonder how much Disney is getting paid...

From an insider:

Originally Posted by David Vaughn http://images.avsforum.com/avs-images/retro/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=591864#post591864)

Anyway, here is what I know. Warner and Toshiba had a deal last week with another "unnamed studio" (if you have read my posts, you should be able to figure it out and they would be considered a "major")...anyway, at the last minute, the unnamed studio got cold feet and walked out on the deal. Warner was NOT going to go to HD DVD alone because it would cause more of a stalemate and Toshiba needed to get another "player" in the group. When this other studio left the table, Warner had one choice to end the format war and that was to go to Blu-ray.

I've known about these negotiations for a while and there are others on here that can confirm because I confided in them in PM's on the condition that they kept the information tightly held. I knew a decision was going to be made today for the past couple of weeks and told people to expect a decision on the 4th. I didn't know which way Warner would go until just before the press release hit the wires...I was contacted by two sources within 1 minute of each other and I thank those sources for providing me information. I had sent an email to both my editor at Home Theater as well as Home Theater Spot informing them of Warner's decision just before Reuters reported the news.

I don't know what Toshiba will do, but for all intent and purpose, the format war is over as far as I am concerned.

[grif32]

Where are all you guys going to find these deals?

Ebay, Avsforums

I bet now HD DVD group will start having Bogo's like crazy on all titles.

[imaginegrafix]

ugh, it sucks to think hd dvd was that close - oh well....... I don't expect tosh to just close up shop, so it'll be interesting this next week to see what happens.

[JaylisJayP]

ugh, it sucks to think hd dvd was that close - oh well....... I don't expect tosh to just close up shop, so it'll be interesting this next week to see what happens.

I don't expect them to, either.

It sucks this happened on a Friday...when Paramount switched it was Monday (I believe), so we all had the whole business week to stay up on the fallout updates.

[grif32]

Here is how to use your Harmony remote for your PS3 for ON/OFF function

http://www.schmartz.com/product.sc?categoryId=1&productId=4

[MattW62001]

Here is how to use your Harmony remote for your PS3 for ON/OFF function

http://www.schmartz.com/product.sc?categoryId=1&productId=4


Thanks Grif.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Any HD-DVD BOGO's listed for next week yet? Im sticking with it because HD-DVD's look great and there will still be some movies coming out for it. Im also getting Blu-Ray so I will have both. Still looking for great deals though :)

[grif32]

Any HD-DVD BOGO's listed for next week yet? Im sticking with it because HD-DVD's look great and there will still be some movies coming out for it. Im also getting Blu-Ray so I will have both. Still looking for great deals though :)

To soon. Maybe the following week or maybe a big surprise on Amazon. Who really knows now..

[grif32]

Thanks Grif.

Welcome..

[Hokies]

I wouldn't buy anymore HD DVD. I think the "war" will be over soon and all HD DVDs will be clearance out. I have both formats and like HD DVD more but it doesn't look good for them right now unless the 2 remaining studios can pump more movies out this year.

[imaginegrafix]

Tons of great deals on hd dvds over on highdefdigest forums - $10-$12 for most hd dvd's

[dayday6]

I bet the dual format players will drop severely in price. There is not much of a future for dual format players unless you already had a bunch of HD-DVDs.

[avsfan21]

Tons of great deals on hd dvds over on highdefdigest forums - $10-$12 for most hd dvd's

Thanks I got a 360 HD drive and 3 HD-DVDs for 110. Now I will actually have something to watch on my HDTV until I can hopefully get my Directv service upgraded to HD.

[jackliveshere]

I don't think it was ever really a tight race from the get-go. When the Blu Ray format had Sony and Disney solely behind them - it was over. Especially the amount of money involved with those 2 entities. I've been Blu Ray all the way and I've only had 2 complaints - Transformers and Batman Begins missing in my collection. Now I'm pretty sure I'll have BB by summer, and hopefully Transformers soon to follow. Now if I could only get my damn Unrated "Live Free or Die Hard BD"................

[jackliveshere]

Forgot to mention - Best Buy hooked me up awesome yesterday! I picked up Pirates AWE, Superbad, and Casino Royale for ..........................$11!!!

They took my $20 off 3 BD coupon, my $5 off one Disney BD coupon, plus I had $25 in Reward Zone certificates from my PS3 purchase. I just started laughing when all the coupons rang up and she told me the price, lol.

[grif32]

Ok forget the whole HD war.. I can not stop playing Mario Galaxy on the WII :) So friggin addicting...

[avsfan21]

I want to play Mario Galaxy but I wont buy a Wii just for that one game.

[grif32]

Also I have Harry Potter 1 - 4 New and Sealed on HD DVD for $46 Dlvd if anyone is interested before they go back to Amazon.

I am not giving up on HD DVD and will continue to purchase HD DVD's I just want to get all my Harry potters on one format.

LMK
Chris

[grif32]

I want to play Mario Galaxy but I wont buy a Wii just for that one game.

Man to me it is. This game is that much fun...

[dayday6]

Man to me it is. This game is that much fun...

I don't doubt that it is fun, but it is not worth $300.IMO

I do want to play "No More Heroes", but then again not for $300.

[GPWYANKEE]

If you guys havent seen Stardust on HD Dvd you dont know what your missing.Great flick and the HD disc is absolutely amazing.

[grif32]

I don't doubt that it is fun, but it is not worth $300.IMO

I do want to play "No More Heroes", but then again not for $300.

Well they have alot of great games for the Wii..

I own the Xbox 360, Wii and PS3

PS3 games suck IMO. Ninja Gaiden is about the only thing I play. I bought hevenly sword but that sucks.

Xbox 360 has a few games I like to play

Wii has more titles I enjoy playing right now. Plus I can play with the little one and we have a blast.

Again IMO the WII has the better games right now.

[grif32]

If you guys havent seen Stardust on HD Dvd you dont know what your missing.Great flick and the HD disc is absolutely amazing.

Yeah Daena wants this real bad. But I think you are going to see a big sale on HD DVD's in the next month so I will wait.

Get the Harmony yet?

[GPWYANKEE]

Yeah Daena wants this real bad. But I think you are going to see a big sale on HD DVD's in the next month so I will wait.

Get the Harmony yet?

Not Yet:(

[dayday6]

Well they have alot of great games for the Wii..

I own the Xbox 360, Wii and PS3

PS3 games suck IMO. Ninja Gaiden is about the only thing I play. I bought hevenly sword but that sucks.

Xbox 360 has a few games I like to play

Wii has more titles I enjoy playing right now. Plus I can play with the little one and we have a blast.

Again IMO the WII has the better games right now.


The Wii is full of trash games and this is widely known.
The Nintendo firts party games are good, but not spectacular.

There is absolutely no quality control on that system and developers are counting on uneducated soccer moms to buy their product.
Chicken Shoot and all the other broken games that have an average rating under 3.

If you like the games it offers that is good for you it is your money.

That system doesn't offer anything on the level of Uncharted, Warhawk, Folklore or The Orange Box.

[GPWYANKEE]

The Wii is full of trash games and this is widely known.
The Nintendo firts party games are good, but not spectacular.

There is absolutely no quality control on that system and developers are counting on uneducated soccer moms to buy their product.
Chicken Shoot and all the other broken games that have an average rating under 3.

If you like the games it offers that is good for you it is your money.

That system doesn't offer anything on the level of Uncharted, Warhawk, Folklore or The Orange Box.

Your baked-Ive got the XBOX 360 and the Wii-Theyre totally different in the kind of enjoyment they bring.The XBOX 360 is my favorite but to say the Wii has no decent games is flat out ignorant.

[dayday6]

Your baked-Ive got the XBOX 360 and the Wii-Theyre totally different in the kind of enjoyment they bring.The XBOX 360 is my favorite but to say the Wii has no decent games is flat out ignorant.

Who said it doen't have "decent" games?

I said it is full of trash games, that is true.

It does have some decent games and a whole lot of trash games.

[stupidsuck]

Who said it doen't have "decent" games?

I said it is full of trash games, that is true.

It does have some decent games and a whole lot of trash games.

that's not really a bold statement being that the same can be said of any system.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Quick question about the 360 and the HD-DVD player for it.

I have an orginal premium xbox. It doesnt have HDMI. Its has Component cables and on it is a little switch that has TV and HD on it.

My Question is will the HD-DVD quality be good with Component and the HD-DVD player going through an original Xbox 360? Is there a need for the elite?

All info appreciated :)

[MPCanes]

Quick question about the 360 and the HD-DVD player for it.

I have an orginal premium xbox. It doesnt have HDMI. Its has Component cables and on it is a little switch that has TV and HD on it.

My Question is will the HD-DVD quality be good with Component and the HD-DVD player going through an original Xbox 360? Is there a need for the elite?

All info appreciated :)

You'll be 99% the same between Component and HDMI.

[ToightLikeATiger]

You'll be 99% the same between Component and HDMI.

Yeah I know component and hdmi are pretty close to same quality. Im just wondering if that stupid switch is a problem or not.

[grif32]

Wii has the game of the year..

All systems have trash games.

[grif32]

The add-on is hooked up to the Xbox 360 via USB. Make sure the switch on that little box is on HD and not TV or whatever the other setting is.

Simple as that

Chris

[PrimeBane]

God dammit... I get sick for 3 days laid up in bed and look what happens...

[james howlett]

Shame about Warners choice. I actually thought that both formats would sustain in the market like how certain video games are available for all the systems. I didn't invest too much in HD I only have 12 titles most I purchsed through BOGO's and discounts and I didn't pay alot for my player. My HD-A3 was only $199. But I won't go out today and buy a Blu player I'll wait on the sidelines and enjoy what I have In HD. And I still buy standard DVD like most of you. The past 2 months through online coupons and offers I've purchased 20 standard DVD's.Afterall these are movies we should enjoy them in any format thats what makes the experience special.

[CoachB]

History of Violence was ok. But it was Awesome to see Maria Bello completly nude!! That alone makes the movie worth watching:)I've been reluctant to purchase, is it really that good? I just keep thinking of History of Violence when I see the trailer.... and that movie was one of the worst I've ever seen.

[HollandX]

You'll be 99% the same between Component and HDMI.

Also depends on your TV. My TV only accepts 1080p over hdmi... It only accepts 720p over component and vga.

[HollandX]

Well WB was paid $500 million to switch..

Geez... is anyone even profiting from all this?

[JaylisJayP]

Hey everyone, I just watched Queen Rock Montreal (on *gasp* HD DVD).

If you're a fan of the band this is a must own. The picture quality is hazy on long shots and crowd shots, but most shots of the band and close-ups are a revelation for a film concert shot in 1981.

Sound is very powerful, too. I usually listen to my movies with the Onkyo receiver volume set at 48-50. The Queen concert was full and LOUD at 27.

[JaylisJayP]

Also, for those who haven't abandoned HD DVD, Best Buy has The Pianist out early, at least by me. I picked it up and plan on watching it tomorrow.

[stupidsuck]

Hey everyone, I just watched Queen Rock Montreal (on *gasp* HD DVD).

If you're a fan of the band this is a must own. The picture quality is hazy on long shots and crowd shots, but most shots of the band and close-ups are a revelation for a film concert shot in 1981.

Sound is very powerful, too. I usually listen to my movies with the Onkyo receiver volume set at 48-50. The Queen concert was full and LOUD at 27.

does anyone have any info on how or what the process is when they restore old video into HD, I just find it interesting.

[Hartigan'sCannon]

Just got Smallville the sixth season on blu-ray today and it looks amazing!!!:D 4 out of 5 for PQ.

[Kleptos18]

i'm sure this has been asked in here a million times.

I'm lookin to get a dlp tv, where's the best places to look and help me decide.