High Definition Discussion Thread - Blu-Ray, HDTV, etc...

[Chugga]

So you're rushing out to get the 360 addon then? ;)

:D

Nah I'm going to wait it out and see if they can do a package deal with that and the Notebook.

[PrimeBane]

Ah yes, the Rainbow Warrior 2 pack... I hear most BD fanboys are waiting for it. ;)

[JaylisJayP]

I also picked up Half Baked $23.95 (HD) Open Season $24.99(BD)

Highdefdigest has a review up on Half Baked, but I'd be interested to here your picture quality assessment, as it's one I've wanted to pick up.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I will have it Thrus. and will let you know.

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

what up yo!

i gotz
Land of the Dead
Superman II Richard Donner Cut
Superman Returns
Chronicles of Rid****
Batman Begins
King Kong.
oh, I almost forgot, i have an HD DVD player. For the 360.
anyone else having issues displaying the 360 in 1080p??

[Cleavage Sculpt]

Im waiting on pins and needles for The Departed on Blu-Ray.

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

cleavage sculpt, who is that in your avatar, and i can i get a pic, via pm??

[PrimeBane]

denverdezz... there are known issues with the 360 and 1080p. They were supposed to be fixed with the last major update, but no such luck. I currently just run mine at 720p for movies and games.

I can't wait for Departed either... looks like a great flick. :)

[grif32]

The thing that kinda sucks is that 90% of Universal HD DVD movies in the year ahead supposedly will be combos, which means 5-10 bucks more expensive.

Hell, they're already pretty pricey for one movie, I can't ever see myself spending 35-40 bucks on these things.

yeah I posted that early that 90% will be combo's which really suck but for movies like Jaws and Jurassic park I dont care if they are combo's or not. They are must buys

I think they have to come down in price for the combo's or they will be in trouble.

I want Ant Bully HD-DVD but not for $30 for the combo disk.

chris

[grif32]

Anyone have these HD-DVD's for sale?

Hulk
Ant Bully
Mummy Returns
Polar Express

Or anyothers they want to get rid of shoot me a PM with a price dlvd to 13901. If its something I like I will grab it.

Thanks
Chris

[WingNut 25]

$36.99 for BeerFest? Looks like I won't be upgrading that one.

[PrimeBane]

$19.99 at amazon.com :)

http://www.amazon.com/Beerfest-Unrated-HD-DVD/dp/B000MEYFYG/sr=1-1/qid=1170264751/ref=sr_1_1/102-3614161-3416911?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

[WingNut 25]

Thatta boy PB!

[PrimeBane]

np WingNut :)

If anyone else is finding HD-DVDs or Blu-Ray disks too expensive at the local store, amazon.com usually has some pretty good prices.

It's even cheap for us Canucks sometimes (depending on the dollar of course).

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

hey does anyone know when shaun of the dead may be coming out, considering it is universal???

and thanks for the help yo!

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

i checked out dvdplanet.com they seem to have some decent prices, usually around 5-10 bux cheaper, and they have free shipping on orders over 25$

[PrimeBane]

Shaun of the Dead is supposed to come out this year, but no date has been set.

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

sweet dude thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PrimeBane]

For anyone that might be looking for a standalone HD-DVD player you might want to consider this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A2-HD-DVD-Player/dp/B000IJV4BC/sr=1-12/qid=1170284318/ref=sr_1_12/102-3614161-3416911?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video

$389.99 :eek:

And it doubles and a very good upconverting DVD player.

If Canada customs didn't bone me coming across the border, I'd seriously consider picking up this player at that price.

[thaderules]

I have Ant Bully HD. Do you have anything to trade? Looking for Miami Vice or Training Day.


Anyone have these HD-DVD's for sale?

Hulk
Ant Bully
Mummy Returns
Polar Express

Or anyothers they want to get rid of shoot me a PM with a price dlvd to 13901. If its something I like I will grab it.

Thanks
Chris

[JaylisJayP]

Well I signed up for Blockbuster online total access today. We'll see how good they are at getting HD DVDs and BLU Rays out...but I'm pretty stoked about the service. Return the DVDs from the mail to any blockbuster and get a new one free on the spot...could be a Netflix killer.

[VH Fan]

I was just over at thedigitalbits website and they had an article about the first scans of next-gen movie sales and Blu-Ray is outselling HD-DVD by over a 2 to 1 margin. In the first sample HD-DVD was only selling 47 discs for every 100 Blu-Ray's and in the 2nd report only 38 for every 100 Blu-Ray's.

Looks like Blu-Ray is out in front right now if one format were to die off...

[mtd20_2000]

The first official retail tracking data from Nielsen VideoScan seems to show Blu-ray Disc outselling HD-DVD in unit software sales by a more than 2 to 1 margin, and the gap is widening. According to data reported in Home Media Retailing (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/) (you'll find it on page one of the digital edition available on their website) for the week ending 1/7/07, Year-to-Date tracking indicated that for every 47.14 HD-DVDs sold there were 100 Blu-ray Disc titles sold. Just a week later, ending 1/14/07, the same YTD tracking indicated just 38.36 HD-DVDs sold for every 100 Blu-ray Discs sold. What's more, tracking by Nielsen VideoScan since the inception of both formats appears to indicate that Blu-ray Disc is quickly erasing the sales lead HD-DVD enjoyed as a result of launching months earlier in 2006. On 1/7, HD-DVD's lead was 100 discs for every 85.05 Blu-ray Discs sold, while just a week later on 1/14, that lead had been reduced to 100 HD-DVDs for every 92.40 Blu-ray Discs sold.

[grif32]

I have Ant Bully HD. Do you have anything to trade? Looking for Miami Vice or Training Day.

Sorry I dont. Just cash.

Chris

[grif32]

For anyone that might be looking for a standalone HD-DVD player you might want to consider this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A2-HD-DVD-Player/dp/B000IJV4BC/sr=1-12/qid=1170284318/ref=sr_1_12/102-3614161-3416911?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video

$389.99 :eek:

And it doubles and a very good upconverting DVD player.

If Canada customs didn't bone me coming across the border, I'd seriously consider picking up this player at that price.

Heck of a price but I heard there are alot of problems with this player. I almost bought it Sunday but got the 360 add-on instead after reading about some problems on the avsforum


chris

[JaylisJayP]

I was just over at thedigitalbits website and they had an article about the first scans of next-gen movie sales and Blu-Ray is outselling HD-DVD by over a 2 to 1 margin. In the first sample HD-DVD was only selling 47 discs for every 100 Blu-Ray's and in the 2nd report only 38 for every 100 Blu-Ray's.

Looks like Blu-Ray is out in front right now if one format were to die off...

No surprise....HD DVD has been massively lagging in new releases, and in this kind of a format war, you can't take any time off.

Second is the combo thing, it's killing HD DVD. It's the only reason I'll be buying The Departed on Blu-Ray as opposed to HD DVD.

I used to pull for HD DVD because of the superior quality, but since Blu-Ray got it's act together in terms of quality, I personally don't care who wins the format war. I'll get the movies either way.

[PrimeBane]

Like Jalis said, there's WAY more out on BD right now. People that support new formats want their content and they want it NOW.

But if you compare sales between the same titles (The Departed and Babel for example) on both formats, you'll find they're virtually identical.

But the HD-DVD folks do need to get their act together and get some good new disks on the shelves instead of just announcing dateless titles.

As for the combo disk, I actually like them. I can play them on either of my tvs that way. :)

The thing that really ticked me today... it sounds like Warner is holding back major releases until they're ready in both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray... mostly due to the Java app being a real pain to program for. :(

[PrimeBane]

Blu-Ray and HD-DVD easter eggs :)

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Easter_Eggs/High-Def_Egg_Hunt:_More_HD_DVD/Blu-ray_Easter_Eggs_Spotted/459

[PrimeBane]

Beware PS3 owners of the 1.5 update as it has an adverse effect on BD playback.

http://www.gizmocafe.com/blogs/gizmo_cafe_blog/archive/2007/02/01/105703.aspx

[dayday6]

Beware PS3 owners of the 1.5 update as it has an adverse effect on BD playback.

http://www.gizmocafe.com/blogs/gizmo_cafe_blog/archive/2007/02/01/105703.aspx


I don't understand that article, it says plug the controller in, plug the ethernet cable in as well. What does that have to do with BD playback?

Anyway they released a new update this morning 1.51, hopefully that fixed what ever problems people were having.

[PrimeBane]

The problem

A significant number of complaints surround the update’s affect on Blu-ray playback, reportedly causing high definition movies to freeze.

The fix

Although Sony has yet to offer some much-needed advice on the matter, self-proclaimed audio-video experts are telling forum visitors to do the following:

Reconnect the wireless controller
Attach the PlayStation 3 to web router using a direct Ethernet cable
It seems most of the issues are affecting users linked to the internet via wireless connection.


So if you don't connect your PS3 to the net via wireless, you shouldn't have to worry. :)

[Chugga]

If you really don't want to worry then don't sign online. I haven't been on Sony online since early december. I never trust those first wave patches....I like to download them weeks if not months after a patch fixes the patch that was supposed to fix a patch.

[dayday6]

If you really don't want to worry then don't sign online. I haven't been on Sony online since early december. I never trust those first wave patches....I like to download them weeks if not months after a patch fixes the patch that was supposed to fix a patch.


It is always not that easy. I am usually the same way with patches, but if you want to go to the PS store to get demos you have to update anyway. Plus when they fixed the graphics for PS2 games I was all over it.

[Chugga]

I guess I'm different because I don't like downloading/playing demos. I just think most times you don't get a very good representation of what you'll be playing...sometimes for the good sometimes for the bad. So me signing onto sony online has never been much of an issue....I mean I only have 1 game and I'm not too huge on it's multiplayer so I'm never on. That will unfortunately changed when Virtua Fighter is out....I'm going to have to sit there forever having to catch up.

[PrimeBane]

Can you let it update overnight, or does it require babysitting?

[Chugga]

No idea, but I wouldn't leave a system on overnight with how quickly I blow through them.

[dayday6]

I guess I'm different because I don't like downloading/playing demos. I just think most times you don't get a very good representation of what you'll be playing...sometimes for the good sometimes for the bad. So me signing onto sony online has never been much of an issue....I mean I only have 1 game and I'm not too huge on it's multiplayer so I'm never on. That will unfortunately changed when Virtua Fighter is out....I'm going to have to sit there forever having to catch up.


Fortunately or Unfortunately, you will not need to go online on VF5, it has no online capabilities. Sega said due to the time specific moves, the lag from online will hamper the game so they didn't include it.

The patch downloads are fairly quick.

You are missing out on MotorStorm though. I don't judge a game on it's demo, if the demo is bad. But if it is a good demo, I play it until the game comes out. MotoStorm should be played by everyone who has a PS3.

[Chugga]

I watched a friend of mine play a demo of motorstorm at gamestop and I was somewhat turned off from it when he went right through a canyon wall and came out the other side.

[dayday6]

I watched a friend of mine play a demo of motorstorm at gamestop and I was somewhat turned off from it when he went right through a canyon wall and came out the other side.

Must of been that early demo, like the one I seen at Target awhile back. Trust me you can't go through any wall, you will blow to pieces.

[JaylisJayP]

So pissed at Best Buy here for not carrying Half-Baked. I'm thinking Amazon for that one, I guess.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

The PQ on Half-Baked is pretty good It has a couple grainy parts but overall i give it
3 out of 5 stars. And you can get it from amazon for just over $20

[JaylisJayP]

The PQ on Half-Baked is pretty good It has a couple grainy parts but overall i give it
3 out of 5 stars. And you can get it from amazon for just over $20

good to know...i may pass on this and go for mummy returns.

[WingNut 25]

HD-DVD definitely needs to step up or it's in trouble the way Blu Ray is pumping out its releases. I hope the rumors of a PS3 price drop are true. It just means I'll be getting one that much sooner.

[JaylisJayP]

HD-DVD definitely needs to step up or it's in trouble the way Blu Ray is pumping out its releases. I hope the rumors of a PS3 price drop are true. It just means I'll be getting one that much sooner.

I read this week on gametab.com that they're saying in an article how a PS3 price drop would be "very difficult"


Seriously, they don't need a price drop, they just need 3 exclusive games that are rated 80 or above and the thing will start selling.

[WingNut 25]

I'm skeptical as well my friend. I won't believe it until I see it on a store shelf ya know? It would be nice to get one eventually since Blu Ray has some awesome titles on the way. POTC 1 and 2 would be my first purchases.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Mummy Returns Is great on HD-DVD

[grif32]

Mummy Returns Is great on HD-DVD

Just watched Mummy returns. The first half of the movie the PQ was not good at all.

Now the 2nd half of the movie is where is shines in HD. WOW

Just bought troy and will watch that next week.

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

Troy was good. Don't expect it to be the best you've seen, though, picture quality-wise.


Some decent Blu-Rays already in stores now...Reservoir Dogs, American Psycho, Rambo and Young Guns.

Don't see myself buying any of those really, looks like my next purchase will be The Departed in a couple weeks.

Still debating Constantine and Half-Baked.

Damn, wish these things were about 10 bucks cheaper already.

[JaylisJayP]

Just bought my first (and possibly only) HD-DVD import from xploitedcinema.com.

Running Scared on HD-DVD. Really wasn't a bad price, $32.00.

Can't wait to get it as I loved the movie and avsforum has it in Tier 1.

[grif32]

All I know is HD-DVD better do something fast or I think its doomed. Thats Just my thoughts. I want a BR player bad because of pirates and cars. But its tough to support both formats. To dang expensive.

chris

[PrimeBane]

Watched Miami Vice finally last night.

First time I put it in, the movie would skip... I took it out and restarted and it worked fine.

Good movie, but strange PQ... clear as day in one shot, grainy as hell the next. I hope that was the director's vision. Even the wife commented on the grain "That doesn't look HD".

[grif32]

Went looking for some HD DVD's today and nothing. Everyone is carrying Blu Ray. Man not a good sign..

Even walwart was out of HD DVD's maybe thats a good sign? But had Blu Ray.

Man getting a PS3 is getting way to tempting..

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

Went looking for some HD DVD's today and nothing. Everyone is carrying Blu Ray. Man not a good sign..

Even walwart was out of HD DVD's maybe thats a good sign? But had Blu Ray.

Man getting a PS3 is getting way to tempting..

Chris

yeah that's what happened with me. I got a PS3 and now have 7 Blu-Ray titles to my 19 HD DVDs. As long as Universal and Weinstein back HD DVD, it'll still be around, it just won't be the leader.

3 video game systems exist, I'd imagine 2 HD DVD formats can exist, as well.

And if not, that's too bad, because HD DVD still looks so beautiful in my opinion.

[Chugga]

Went looking for some HD DVD's today and nothing. Everyone is carrying Blu Ray. Man not a good sign..

Even walwart was out of HD DVD's maybe thats a good sign? But had Blu Ray.

Man getting a PS3 is getting way to tempting..

Chris

Walmart likely wasn't "out" of HD DVDs they likely never got them. I go to Walmart bi-weekly now and they simply never get HD DVDs in (this is over a span of me checking 4 different walmarts within a 10 minute drive). They got in V for Vendetta and King Kong and Lady in the Water and from what I've seen they are content with just having those 3 titles warm the pegs (one of the walmarts doesn't even put the movies out you are required to "ask" about what they have). On the Blu-Ray side they are on a weekly basis getting in the top title of that week and then usually one or two others for that week. For instance this week they got in Open Season which was the top title then Flyboys and Harts War. While the week before they got in Saw 3 which was the top title and also the Guardian and Chicago. They only put out 3-5 copies of each movie so you gotta move quick on them. People are starting to smarten up when it comes to Walmart....they have the best prices by far and if they don't, they price match.

If you know where to look you can find every HD DVD title ever made though. Between Best Buy and...well Best Buy they've got you covered. Target absolutely sucks...they get in 10 blu-ray titles and 10 hd dvd titles and call it a day. Walmart from my experiences has been very pro blu-ray...gamestop doesn't even count they only have 5 titles in. But I mean around here you never have any problems finding HD DVD titles. On any given tuesday I've gotta run around to 2-3 different stores to pick up the Blu-Ray releases I want...when it comes to HD DVD Best Buy always puts the stuff out on time. But on the same note thats just my best buy.

[JaylisJayP]

Walmart likely wasn't "out" of HD DVDs they likely never got them. I go to Walmart bi-weekly now and they simply never get HD DVDs in (this is over a span of me checking 4 different walmarts within a 10 minute drive). They got in V for Vendetta and King Kong and Lady in the Water and from what I've seen they are content with just having those 3 titles warm the pegs (one of the walmarts doesn't even put the movies out you are required to "ask" about what they have). On the Blu-Ray side they are on a weekly basis getting in the top title of that week and then usually one or two others for that week. For instance this week they got in Open Season which was the top title then Flyboys and Harts War. While the week before they got in Saw 3 which was the top title and also the Guardian and Chicago. They only put out 3-5 copies of each movie so you gotta move quick on them. People are starting to smarten up when it comes to Walmart....they have the best prices by far and if they don't, they price match.

If you know where to look you can find every HD DVD title ever made though. Between Best Buy and...well Best Buy they've got you covered. Target absolutely sucks...they get in 10 blu-ray titles and 10 hd dvd titles and call it a day. Walmart from my experiences has been very pro blu-ray...gamestop doesn't even count they only have 5 titles in. But I mean around here you never have any problems finding HD DVD titles. On any given tuesday I've gotta run around to 2-3 different stores to pick up the Blu-Ray releases I want...when it comes to HD DVD Best Buy always puts the stuff out on time. But on the same note thats just my best buy.

Everything you said was pretty much spot on. Even though Target does suck for selection, there are 2 bright spots. 1: They are completely equal on the 2 formats, and 2, at least for HD DVDs, if they do happen to have the title you're looking for, it'll be cheaper there than any other brick and mortar that carries them (possibly the same as Wal-Mart, but as the Wal-Marts around here don't carry anything but XMen3, I wouldn't know.)

[Chugga]

Unless you've gone recently I'd check your Walmart again to see if they've updated. My Walmarts used to be exactly like yours (I've got 1 super Walmart and 3 regular Walmarts within a 10 minute drive from me so I checked all of them occassionally). But I mean they sucked for the most part. The HD DVD section was comprised of.....King Kong and Superman (thats it). And the Blu-Ray section was comprised of X-Men and Superman (thats it). Then all of a sudden right after Christmas they kicked in with on time releases. The 26th is when I started noticing that we were actually getting in new titles. I mean don't get me wrong Walmart still isn't reliable....they don't even bother ordering catalog titles released before 2000. But Best Buy is such a pain in the neck for me that they are a nice alternative.

Now-a-days I can generally pick up all the titles I need between Best Buy and Walmart....before I'd have to try out the local movie stores, target, etc. but BB and Walmart have been very good for me. Only thing I haven't been able to get my hands on that I really wanted was last weeks Fox releases....which seem to not have shipped to anywhere other then Circuit Citys and I don't have one of those..

Also on an unrelated note anyone else somewhat bummed that the largest commercial stage in the world (The Superbowl) had absolutely NO high def ads what-so-ever. I mean I can't go 2 seconds without seeing a Blu-Ray add on HDNet for Dish Network but during the SB I really thought they'd try at least one commercial.

[grif32]

Unless you've gone recently I'd check your Walmart again to see if they've updated. My Walmarts used to be exactly like yours (I've got 1 super Walmart and 3 regular Walmarts within a 10 minute drive from me so I checked all of them occassionally). But I mean they sucked for the most part. The HD DVD section was comprised of.....King Kong and Superman (thats it). And the Blu-Ray section was comprised of X-Men and Superman (thats it). Then all of a sudden right after Christmas they kicked in with on time releases. The 26th is when I started noticing that we were actually getting in new titles. I mean don't get me wrong Walmart still isn't reliable....they don't even bother ordering catalog titles released before 2000. But Best Buy is such a pain in the neck for me that they are a nice alternative.

Now-a-days I can generally pick up all the titles I need between Best Buy and Walmart....before I'd have to try out the local movie stores, target, etc. but BB and Walmart have been very good for me. Only thing I haven't been able to get my hands on that I really wanted was last weeks Fox releases....which seem to not have shipped to anywhere other then Circuit Citys and I don't have one of those..

Also on an unrelated note anyone else somewhat bummed that the largest commercial stage in the world (The Superbowl) had absolutely NO high def ads what-so-ever. I mean I can't go 2 seconds without seeing a Blu-Ray add on HDNet for Dish Network but during the SB I really thought they'd try at least one commercial.

I would say about 50 - 75% of the commericals here were HD OTA. The other 50% were not and had the bars on top and bottom.

[grif32]

Walmart likely wasn't "out" of HD DVDs they likely never got them. I go to Walmart bi-weekly now and they simply never get HD DVDs in (this is over a span of me checking 4 different walmarts within a 10 minute drive). They got in V for Vendetta and King Kong and Lady in the Water and from what I've seen they are content with just having those 3 titles warm the pegs (one of the walmarts doesn't even put the movies out you are required to "ask" about what they have). On the Blu-Ray side they are on a weekly basis getting in the top title of that week and then usually one or two others for that week. For instance this week they got in Open Season which was the top title then Flyboys and Harts War. While the week before they got in Saw 3 which was the top title and also the Guardian and Chicago. They only put out 3-5 copies of each movie so you gotta move quick on them. People are starting to smarten up when it comes to Walmart....they have the best prices by far and if they don't, they price match.

If you know where to look you can find every HD DVD title ever made though. Between Best Buy and...well Best Buy they've got you covered. Target absolutely sucks...they get in 10 blu-ray titles and 10 hd dvd titles and call it a day. Walmart from my experiences has been very pro blu-ray...gamestop doesn't even count they only have 5 titles in. But I mean around here you never have any problems finding HD DVD titles. On any given tuesday I've gotta run around to 2-3 different stores to pick up the Blu-Ray releases I want...when it comes to HD DVD Best Buy always puts the stuff out on time. But on the same note thats just my best buy.

No best buy here except their distribution center. CC has a ton of Blu Ray in one section and has HD DVD scattered throught with the regular DVD's. Walmart section sucks and Target sucks as well. Thats about it. Gamestop and Fye's do not carry them where i live. So its either ebay or you guys that want to sell them to me :D . Also I will probably order them of Amazon as well.

I love HD DVD and the 360 addon but I still think they are in trouble and need to get some HUGE hits out very fast

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

Unless you've gone recently I'd check your Walmart again to see if they've updated. My Walmarts used to be exactly like yours (I've got 1 super Walmart and 3 regular Walmarts within a 10 minute drive from me so I checked all of them occassionally). But I mean they sucked for the most part. The HD DVD section was comprised of.....King Kong and Superman (thats it). And the Blu-Ray section was comprised of X-Men and Superman (thats it). Then all of a sudden right after Christmas they kicked in with on time releases. The 26th is when I started noticing that we were actually getting in new titles. I mean don't get me wrong Walmart still isn't reliable....they don't even bother ordering catalog titles released before 2000. But Best Buy is such a pain in the neck for me that they are a nice alternative.

Now-a-days I can generally pick up all the titles I need between Best Buy and Walmart....before I'd have to try out the local movie stores, target, etc. but BB and Walmart have been very good for me. Only thing I haven't been able to get my hands on that I really wanted was last weeks Fox releases....which seem to not have shipped to anywhere other then Circuit Citys and I don't have one of those..

Also on an unrelated note anyone else somewhat bummed that the largest commercial stage in the world (The Superbowl) had absolutely NO high def ads what-so-ever. I mean I can't go 2 seconds without seeing a Blu-Ray add on HDNet for Dish Network but during the SB I really thought they'd try at least one commercial.

I thought for the most part the commercials all sucked anyway.

[grif32]

Not good for HD DVD. I was looking forward to these releases..

http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/list.html

Chris

[PrimeBane]

hmmm... there were rumors that HD-DVD would make a big push at or after SB... perhaps it's after now.

At one point at my WM, they couldn't keep most HD-DVDs on the shelves and BD sat... now it's the opposite. Within a week the BD were nearly cleared out and now most of the HD-DVD are sitting.

[PrimeBane]

Not good for HD DVD. I was looking forward to these releases..

http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/list.html

Chris

I sorta figured that was too good to be true... oh well.

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

picked up:

The Thing
Pitch Black
and
V for Vendetta.

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

upage?

[UK_DaNnY]

picked up the following whilst in miami:

corpse bride, kiss kiss bang bang, miami vice, house of wax, italian job.

and waiting for me when i got home was charlie n choclate factory

[PrimeBane]

UK... How are HD-DVD prices across the pond?

With Warner's lack of announcements here, I'm tempting to import the Harry Potters and Matrix movies this fall.

[JaylisJayP]

prime...you can check out xploitedcinema.com as a gauge for how much some of these HD DVD imports will cost you.

[PrimeBane]

Thanks :D

I'll definately check them out.

[PrimeBane]

high def releases today

American Psycho (Blu-ray)
Failure to Launch (Blu-ray)
Failure to Launch (HD DVD)
First Blood (Blu-ray)
Hollywoodland (HD DVD)
Reservoir Dogs (Blu-ray)
Running With Scissors (Blu-ray)
The Tailor of Panama (Blu-ray)
Young Guns (Blu-ray)

I think I might pick up Hollywoodland from Amazon at some point.

And I'm envious of Reservior Dogs and Young Guns on BD, but it will be curious to see what the PQ is like on both.

[PrimeBane]

For HD-DVD owners, if you don't already know, Digital Video Essentials finally arrives Feb 27th.

No news on a BD version yet, but it wouldn't surprise me to see one later this year.

[grif32]

high def releases today

American Psycho (Blu-ray)
Failure to Launch (Blu-ray)
Failure to Launch (HD DVD)
First Blood (Blu-ray)
Hollywoodland (HD DVD)
Reservoir Dogs (Blu-ray)
Running With Scissors (Blu-ray)
The Tailor of Panama (Blu-ray)
Young Guns (Blu-ray)

I think I might pick up Hollywoodland from Amazon at some point.

And I'm envious of Reservior Dogs and Young Guns on BD, but it will be curious to see what the PQ is like on both.

Not good for HD. I would love to see Young Guns that would be sweet.

Chris

[PrimeBane]

A little good news for HD-DVD from Warner:


First of all, thank you for your support of Warner Bros. and for our films in the new HD DVD format, as well as the existing SD DVD format. As you have pointed out in your note, there have recently been on-line discussions claiming that Warner Home Video is holding titles back from the marketplace in the HD DVD format due to plans in BD, and that this is now a company policy. Regardless of the source of this information, it is not true.



Warner Home Video is releasing titles in both high definition formats, and where possible we try to release a title simultaneously in both formats. But this is not always the case, and in fact since we released our first titles in April, 2006 there have been some titles that have been released in HD DVD before BD, and some that have been released in BD before HD DVD.



There are many factors that determine the timing for the release of a motion picture in DVD, HD DVD, and BD. We currently have released more titles in HD DVD than any other studio, and we are anticipating a very exciting schedule for the rest of 2007. In the month of January 2007, we released 4 new titles in HD DVD.



We hope you will enjoy our upcoming HD DVD releases, including two of our best movies from last year (and both recognized with multiple Academy Award nominations), THE DEPARTED and HAPPY FEET, which will be released in February and March 2007, respectively.



We also expect to announce shortly some title plans for April and May. The titles will be quite a thrill for all HD DVD owners and supporters.



Best regards.

I look forward to the announcement :)

[Chugga]

I bought Rambo today....I might go back for Young Guns. Reservoir Dogs is something I'll try to pick up at Walmart.

[grif32]

The Jerk will NOT be a combo disk now. Along with another title but cant remember off hand. Thats good. NO combo's

[grif32]

I bought Rambo today....I might go back for Young Guns. Reservoir Dogs is something I'll try to pick up at Walmart.

Love Rambo. How was it?

Chris

[PrimeBane]

The Jerk will NOT be a combo disk now. Along with another title but cant remember off hand. Thats good. NO combo's

I believe the other is "the Game"

Love Rambo. How was it?

Chris

fyi Rambo will be available along with 2 and 3 on HD-DVD from Europe if you care to import them. :)

[sobentyo]

Hey Chugga how come you dont have an avatar anymore...I always used to see the dave chapelle and know it was you?

[grif32]

I believe the other is "the Game"



fyi Rambo will be available along with 2 and 3 on HD-DVD from Europe if you care to import them. :)

Thanks couldnt remember the other one.

I might have to get all Rambo's.. Very tempting.

Although I see a blu ray player in my future soon :)

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

I'm definitely buying The Game and The Departed when they come out.

Picked up Reservoir Dogs today...thinking about Young Guns. Never saw the movie...is it worth buying if I like westerns?

[civictyperboy]

I watched the first hour + of the movie and its good, video quality is not blowing me away but thats just how the movie was made...still fun to watch though

[JaylisJayP]

I watched the first hour + of the movie and its good, video quality is not blowing me away but thats just how the movie was made...still fun to watch though


which one, Young Guns?

[Chugga]

Love Rambo. How was it?

Chris

I've spent the last 5 hours trying to hook up my surround sound finally and I'm still only getting love out of 2 of the 6 speakers....so I probably won't be watching Rambo until tomorrow.

[Chugga]

Hey Chugga how come you dont have an avatar anymore...I always used to see the dave chapelle and know it was you?

Mark started toying with my avatars when the Bills would lose. Then all of a sudden I tried to go back to my old avatar and they said I couldn't use it anymore because it was too big. Since then I've given up trying.

[civictyperboy]

To reply to a quote of mine I watched Reservoir dogs, I just finished watching it, I forgot that was a really short movie, I can't wait for next week when The Departed shows up, I have never seen it so I am looking forward to it on Blu-ray

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I saw Rambo, Reservoir Dogs, American Physco and young guns on BD at WM today for $19.99

[PrimeBane]

I'm definitely buying The Game and The Departed when they come out.

Picked up Reservoir Dogs today...thinking about Young Guns. Never saw the movie...is it worth buying if I like westerns?

Young Guns is worth it even if you don't like Westerns. Terrific movie all around.

[JaylisJayP]

I saw Rambo, Reservoir Dogs, American Physco and young guns on BD at WM today for $19.99

wish my wal-mart carried 'em....i paid 5 bucks more for RDogs...but whatever.

[JaylisJayP]

i want to buy The Departed on Blu-Ray, but I have a general question.

Is there anywhere besides ebay where I can buy these and pay with paypal?

[johnnyknoxsvill]

You can on Amazon if you have the paypal debit card. Im not too sure of any places right off the top of my head

[JaylisJayP]

hmm, thanks.

[civictyperboy]

Something happened over at AVSforum, their tier system for blu-ray movies is now locked and no longer a sticky, not really horrible news but I used it alot for choices I made...

[JaylisJayP]

yeah i noticed that, too.

On another note, I received Running Scared HD DVD today from xploitedcinema.

Oh my God this one sounds and looks great, and the shipping was lightning fast for only 5 bucks.

The only downside is, since it's an import, it doesn't come in the standard maroon plastic case, but instead more of a cardboard oversleeve. Not a huge deal, I'm sure eventually there will be blank HD DVD cases you can buy.

[HollandX]

go to avsforum.com under the blu-ray picture quality tier thread....you can get a good idea for what movies are worth getting on blu-ray. T2 and Devil's Rejects are not really that great of transfers.

Some good ones are: Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven, Crank, Kung Fu Hustle, Underworld Evolution, Tears of the Sun...and basically anything CGI.

That is NOT the purpose of the tier system. What you're asking for is a ranking of movies "worth it" to upgrade from standard DVD to next gen DVD. That is NOT the tier system.

The tier system, while useful in its own way, describes the picture quality of a next gen DVD. Picture quality includes 3D effects, dirty artifacts in the picture, muddy blacks, etc. The basic concept of it is if your friend came over and was like "ok blow me away with HD," you'd grab a tier 0 movie and impress. The picture quality of movies (supposedly) decreases as you increase tiers. I say supposedly, as there is obviously a human choice element to it.

This does NOT mean that the next gen movie is BETTER than the standard DVD version. Example, Sleepy Hollow is a tier 3 movie. The second worst picture quality tier you can get (in their opinion). While this may be so, the next gen version of Sleepy Hollow BLOWS AWAY the current release in terms of picture quality. I don't know if they remastered it, or the reading machine had a better day, but it's way better. Definitely worth an upgrade if this is one of your favorite movies.

On the other hand, from the very first post in the Blu-ray Disc tier thread, "Silent Hill, XXX and Dinosaur look nearly identical to their DVD counterparts." Silent Hill and XXX are tier 3, but Dinosaur is tier 2!

Just to sum up, because it all is VERY confusing, the tier system is not a "worth it to upgrade from standard DVD to next gen DVD" ranking system. It's just comparing next gen DVDs to next gen DVDs in terms of picture quality. And don't forget it's just an opinion at that.

[Chugga]

While I think jaylisjayp and hollandx are actually talking about the exact same thing but don't realize it, I still wouldn't get too caught up on the tier system. I'm the proud owner of a couple tier3 and lower disks. When it's all said and done it's about the movies. Dude wheres my car could be tier -9 and it wouldn't really help anything. Where as the 5th element is tier crappy and I still picked it up.

If you want to impress buddies and all that good stuff then the tier system is great to figure out exactly what movie is going to blow them away. But if you just wanna watch a good action flick then hell, doesn't matter what tier Rambo is...either way you get to see a bunch of people get stabbed with woodlands objects. And he throws a freakin rock at the windshield of a helicopter, how crazy is that.

[HollandX]

lol did i get carried away? JaylisJayP knows I have nothing but love for him.

[grif32]

lol did i get carried away? JaylisJayP knows I have nothing but love for him.

Yes you did :D but was fun to read LOL

Chris

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

go to avsforum.com under the blu-ray picture quality tier thread....you can get a good idea for what movies are worth getting on blu-ray. T2 and Devil's Rejects are not really that great of transfers.

Some good ones are: Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven, Crank, Kung Fu Hustle, Underworld Evolution, Tears of the Sun...and basically anything CGI.

thanks for the heads up dawg!

yea i think blu ray does not look as good as HD so far. even resistance fall of man doesnt look as good as Gears of War, or Lost planet, or quake 4 launch game or CoD2.
just my opinion, but i had to see it for myself.

[JaylisJayP]

lol did i get carried away? JaylisJayP knows I have nothing but love for him.

it's all good.

[Chugga]

thanks for the heads up dawg!

yea i think blu ray does not look as good as HD so far. even resistance fall of man doesnt look as good as Gears of War, or Lost planet, or quake 4 launch game or CoD2.
just my opinion, but i had to see it for myself.

Gears of War and Lost Planet are better then Resistance but Quake4 and COD2, I can't get on board with that. Quake 4 was awful and COD2 was jaggy as all hell in comparison to todays titles.

I don't know maybe it's your settings but if Resistance is looking worse then those 2 games then I'd definately give them a look over and make sure you have everything set to the right resolution because if everything is set up right there should be absolutely no comparison what-so-ever between Resistance and Quake.

Now when it comes to the game overall thats a whole different story. Give me COD2 anyday of the week.

[Cleavage Sculpt]

go to avsforum.com under the blu-ray picture quality tier thread....you can get a good idea for what movies are worth getting on blu-ray. T2 and Devil's Rejects are not really that great of transfers.

Some good ones are: Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven, Crank, Kung Fu Hustle, Underworld Evolution, Tears of the Sun...and basically anything CGI.

I think all my BD's look really good except for Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. I have X-3, MI-III (Looks Damn Good!), BHD (Insane facial details on the soldiers), Monster House, Underworld Evolution, Talladega Nights. I have The Departed on pre-order and im gonna get Goodfellas with it.

[JaylisJayP]

Just watched Assault on Precinct 13 HD DVD that I got from blockbuster online. Loved this movie....about 100 times better than the original. Predictable but right up my alley.

Picture looked damn good too. Noticed about 5 seconds of grainy scenes and that was it.

[Chugga]

Young Guns was a great movie. Audio was solid, video was pretty damn nice...but most importantly the movie was awesome. A definate 80's classic.

[Chugga]

If you have a Fry's next to you, you are in luck for 2 reasons.

1. Their prices are ridiculously good

2. They are having a Blu-Ray buy 1 get 1 free sale. From what I've heard their ENTIRE stock of Blu-Ray movies is open for this deal. Deal is only good until the 13th so best to get there quick.

[Balthier]

If you have a Fry's next to you, you are in luck for 2 reasons.

1. Their prices are ridiculously good

2. They are having a Blu-Ray buy 1 get 1 free sale. From what I've heard their ENTIRE stock of Blu-Ray movies is open for this deal. Deal is only good until the 13th so best to get there quick.

Whats the regular price of one Blu-ray flick there ????

damn theres hardly any Fry's around my town and the last Blu-ray flick i got was Open Season the flick looks like a real movie specially wathing the forest scenes WOW its gorgeous.

[grif32]

does anyone know how Blazzing Saddles looked in HD?? My all time favorite moive and wonder if it was worth getting in HD.

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

If you have a Fry's next to you, you are in luck for 2 reasons.

1. Their prices are ridiculously good

2. They are having a Blu-Ray buy 1 get 1 free sale. From what I've heard their ENTIRE stock of Blu-Ray movies is open for this deal. Deal is only good until the 13th so best to get there quick.

I read at Avs it was only Sony movies that were buy 1 get 1 free, but I could be mistaken.

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

Gears of War and Lost Planet are better then Resistance but Quake4 and COD2, I can't get on board with that. Quake 4 was awful and COD2 was jaggy as all hell in comparison to todays titles.

I don't know maybe it's your settings but if Resistance is looking worse then those 2 games then I'd definately give them a look over and make sure you have everything set to the right resolution because if everything is set up right there should be absolutely no comparison what-so-ever between Resistance and Quake.

Now when it comes to the game overall thats a whole different story. Give me COD2 anyday of the week.

im really thinking quake 4 looks better, you may be right on about CoD2, but, even the game play is that of a old gen 1st person shooter. it sucks so far in my opinion. but hopefully it will get better. does anyone know how long resistance fall of man is?

[dayday6]

Whats the regular price of one Blu-ray flick there ????

damn theres hardly any Fry's around my town and the last Blu-ray flick i got was Open Season the flick looks like a real movie specially wathing the forest scenes WOW its gorgeous.


The prices for the movies on sale, are $19.99. It is not all movies, but it is alot of titles. I will pick up at leat 6 movies.

[Chugga]

I read at Avs it was only Sony movies that were buy 1 get 1 free, but I could be mistaken.

I heard it's very dependant on how alert your Fry's is. I've read some people getting any movie they wanted in the deal and others only movies off of a list of 15 or so.

[PrimeBane]

Finally a couple of new HD-DVD release dates :D

March 27th Children of Men (combo disk)
May 22nd The 40 Year Old Virgin (HD-DVD only)

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Universal/Disc_Announcements/Universal_Brings_Children_of_Men,_40_Year-Old_Virgin_to_HD_DVD/467

[PrimeBane]

If you like to preorder from Amazon.com, the following are now available.

HD-DVD
The Good Shepard (combo disk)

Blu-Ray
Pirates of the Caribean: Curse of the Black Pearl
POTC: Dean Man's Chest

[HollandX]

$19.99 price per movie and then buy one get one free?!?

[PrimeBane]

Additional HD-DVD titles supposedly arriving this spring (at least according to bestbuy.ca)

March 27
Children of Men - Universal
Darkman - Universal
Smokey and the Bandit - Universal


April 3
Dog Day Afternoons (1975) - Warner Bros
Scanner Darkly - Warner Bros

April 10th
Matrix -Warner :D
Matrix Revolutions - Warner :D

June 7th
The West Wing 7th Season - Warner Bros

[WingNut 25]

I think I'd only pick up The Matrix on HD because the sequels were so disappointing, I just don't see the point in investing the money in the HD versions.

[JaylisJayP]

I think I'd only pick up The Matrix on HD because the sequels were so disappointing, I just don't see the point in investing the money in the HD versions.

i agree the second one was garbage...but I actually enjoyed the third one. Although probably not enough to upgrade over the SD version I have.

[HollandX]

i agree the second one was garbage...but I actually enjoyed the third one. Although probably not enough to upgrade over the SD version I have.

oh man, you need the second one for sure if only for the car chase scene.

haivng said that, the latest release of the matrix was of REALLY high quality. i wouldn't be surprised if the hd release was only of marginal improvement.

[grif32]

Anyone have these HD DVD's for sale by chance? Selection of HD DVDs is slim and none around here thats for sure.

1) Polar Express
2) Ant Bully - (Really want this one)
3) Corpe Bride
4) Hulk


If not I will have to go to ebay.

Thanks
chris

[JaylisJayP]

So, what's the consensus? Is Young Guns worth buying? I've never even seen it once.

[PrimeBane]

Yes... buy it. You'll love it. :D

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Are you talking about Fry's Electronics?

[johnnyknoxsvill]

If you like to preorder from Amazon.com, the following are now available.

Blu-Ray
Pirates of the Caribean: Curse of the Black Pearl
POTC: Dean Man's Chest

Do you have links for these, I can't find them anywhere

[VH Fan]

Looks like I'll be hitting Fry's by Tuesday...

[PrimeBane]

Do you have links for these, I can't find them anywhere

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000N6UERU/ref=nosim/tonyswebsit02-20

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000N6UERA/ref=nosim/tonyswebsit02-20

[Chugga]

So, what's the consensus? Is Young Guns worth buying? I've never even seen it once.

I had never seen the movie up until a few days ago but thought hey 19.99 at Walmart, amazing cast, I've heard good things about it, why not. So I bought it and me and my 2 friends were pretty blown away by how great the movie was.

One of my favorite songs of all time got it's origins from Young Guns which I NEVER knew. Anyone who even bothered turning on a hip-hop station in the 90's will immediately be like "holy crap thats where they got it from".

Aside from that Billy the Kid in the movie is just one of the most bad@$$ characters I've seen on film. Just don't think it's going to be the brat pack meets old western....you do the movie a disservice....while I love the brat pack movies, Young Guns is on a whole other level. I mean the minute that movie ended it shot right up my favorite movies list.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

We are talking about Fry's Electronics, correct?

[Radiation74]

I had never seen the movie up until a few days ago but thought hey 19.99 at Walmart, amazing cast, I've heard good things about it, why not. So I bought it and me and my 2 friends were pretty blown away by how great the movie was.

One of my favorite songs of all time got it's origins from Young Guns which I NEVER knew. Anyone who even bothered turning on a hip-hop station in the 90's will immediately be like "holy crap thats where they got it from".

Aside from that Billy the Kid in the movie is just one of the most bad@$$ characters I've seen on film. Just don't think it's going to be the brat pack meets old western....you do the movie a disservice....while I love the brat pack movies, Young Guns is on a whole other level. I mean the minute that movie ended it shot right up my favorite movies list.

Warren G? Regulators?

[JaylisJayP]

I had never seen the movie up until a few days ago but thought hey 19.99 at Walmart, amazing cast, I've heard good things about it, why not. So I bought it and me and my 2 friends were pretty blown away by how great the movie was.

One of my favorite songs of all time got it's origins from Young Guns which I NEVER knew. Anyone who even bothered turning on a hip-hop station in the 90's will immediately be like "holy crap thats where they got it from".

Aside from that Billy the Kid in the movie is just one of the most bad@$$ characters I've seen on film. Just don't think it's going to be the brat pack meets old western....you do the movie a disservice....while I love the brat pack movies, Young Guns is on a whole other level. I mean the minute that movie ended it shot right up my favorite movies list.

Damn.....now I have to get it!

[owenstar]

You people havent seen Young Guns? Seriously? bahahaha that movie is a classic...just like the Warren G song...bhahahaha

The second movie features the music of much celebrated american artist Bon Jovi and it too has a stellar cast....

[Chugga]

Warren G? Regulators?

Indeed....I honestly never knew where they got the regulaters thing from...let alone the entire beginning to the song.

[dayday6]

You people havent seen Young Guns? Seriously? bahahaha that movie is a classic...just like the Warren G song...bhahahaha

The second movie features the music of much celebrated american artist Bon Jovi and it too has a stellar cast....


I can't beleive they haven't seen it either.

I liked the second one as well, Christian Slater's character was a jerk and I loved every second of it.:D

[dayday6]

We are talking about Fry's Electronics, correct?

Yes

[PrimeBane]

Too many youngins on here I guess. ;)

"DID YOU GUYS SEE THE SIZE OF THAT CHICKEN!"

Classic :D

[supertim]

Additional HD-DVD titles supposedly arriving this spring (at least according to bestbuy.ca)

April 10th
Matrix -Warner :D
Matrix Revolutions - Warner :D


No Reloaded ?!

Say it ain't so:(

If the HD-DVD people knew what was good for them, they'd force WB to keep the Matrix titles HD-DVD Exclusive.

It just doesn't make sense to me why the consumer can't have it both ways...don't be forced to choose one over the other for a handful of movies, just make them for both formats.

[supertim]

Too many youngins on here I guess. ;)

"DID YOU GUYS SEE THE SIZE OF THAT CHICKEN!"

Classic :D

I'm 29 - Young Guns is awesome!

How old are you, PB?

[PrimeBane]

Well tim, the source of the info was a store selling them... odds are that if the Matrix movies are coming out April 10th we'll see an official announcement very soon.

[PrimeBane]

32 this week...

[owenstar]

I can't beleive they haven't seen it either.

I liked the second one as well, Christian Slater's character was a jerk and I loved every second of it.:D

Back in the day when Slater was cool...though I didnt like that he got the better of chavez in the knife fight...

"You're the leader Dave"

[JaylisJayP]

I bought Young Guns, so hopefully I'll get to that this weekend...but it's doubtful with Departed blu ray and Usual Suspects blu ray set to arrive Wednesday or Thursday.

[Chugga]

Anyone have any suggestions on what to buy this week.

The only title I KNOW I'm getting is The Departed. The only title I KNOW I'm not getting is the Marine.

Everything else just has a huge question mark next to it. The Usual Suspects, Phone Booth, Reign of Fire, Ladder 49....wouldn't be against getting any of them, haven't seen most of them.

Anyone have any "definately get that" or "steer clear of it" picks?

[PrimeBane]

If you like dragons and are partial to that whole "post apocalyptic" type movie, you'll enjoy Reign of Fire. I know it got blasted by many, but my entire family really enjoyed the movie and watched it several times when it came out on DVD.

And the HD DVD version from Japan is considered a tier 1 movie on AVS.

If I had a BD player, I'd be picking up Reign, Departed and Planet of the Apes (although the PQ isn't that great I guess).

[grif32]

Anyone have any suggestions on what to buy this week.

The only title I KNOW I'm getting is The Departed. The only title I KNOW I'm not getting is the Marine.

Everything else just has a huge question mark next to it. The Usual Suspects, Phone Booth, Reign of Fire, Ladder 49....wouldn't be against getting any of them, haven't seen most of them.

Anyone have any "definately get that" or "steer clear of it" picks?

The Usual Suspects is a great movie.. Phone booth sucked, Reign of fire Sucked and Ladder 49 was OK

Just my thoughts on those movies.

Chris

[Chugga]

I don't really care about PQ too much. I'm not saying I don't give the 5 star reviews a little more love then the 3 star ones but overall I'm in it for good movies, so I'd take a good movie with crappy PQ over a crappy movie with good PQ.

Planet of the Apes was one of the movies I've actually already seen....it was decent but I don't really know if I'd drop cash on it.

[JaylisJayP]

I don't really care about PQ too much. I'm not saying I don't give the 5 star reviews a little more love then the 3 star ones but overall I'm in it for good movies, so I'd take a good movie with crappy PQ over a crappy movie with good PQ.

Planet of the Apes was one of the movies I've actually already seen....it was decent but I don't really know if I'd drop cash on it.

Personally, I would put the Usual Suspects into the "definitely get" category, especially after the highdefdigest rating. It's a great movie, extremely well acted, good twists, action, colorful characters...and I know you said it doesn't matter to you that much, but apparently a 4/5 picture quality. That alone sealed the deal for me, since I traded in my oooooold DVD a few months ago.

[JaylisJayP]

If you like dragons and are partial to that whole "post apocalyptic" type movie, you'll enjoy Reign of Fire. I know it got blasted by many, but my entire family really enjoyed the movie and watched it several times when it came out on DVD.

And the HD DVD version from Japan is considered a tier 1 movie on AVS.

If I had a BD player, I'd be picking up Reign, Departed and Planet of the Apes (although the PQ isn't that great I guess).

Reign of Fire is one of those movies I've always wanted to get but never got around to seeing. Maybe I'll add it to my blockbuster queue.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Well it was an intresting day at Fry's. We went in there to the BD section and asked the guy how the promo work and he said it was any title and that you had to get the same price BD's to get the buy 1 get 1 deal. So we had our titles and go to pay, come to find out that the guy ringing us up got all the titles mixed up and inreturn messed up the computer saying that none of the title were part of the promo. So an 1 1/2 later we finially get everything striaghtend out and we walked away with 10 BD movies for $125

Here is a pic of what we got.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/johnnyknoxsvill/displaycase.jpg

[PrimeBane]

Nice haul :)

Stopped by my local WM tonight... Reign of Fire and Ladder 49 were already on the shelves.

And has anyone else seen the Ghost Rider Trailer in HD... all I can say is WOW. If that's any indication of what the movie will be like in HD, the BD owners will have a real piece of eye candy (and hopefully a decent movie to boot).

[JaylisJayP]

Well it was an intresting day at Fry's. We went in there to the BD section and asked the guy how the promo work and he said it was any title and that you had to get the same price BD's to get the buy 1 get 1 deal. So we had our titles and go to pay, come to find out that the guy ringing us up got all the titles mixed up and inreturn messed up the computer saying that none of the title were part of the promo. So an 1 1/2 later we finially get everything striaghtend out and we walked away with 10 BD movies for $125

Here is a pic of what we got.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/johnnyknoxsvill/displaycase.jpg

That's a great deal...but for me, at least, a lot of questionable purchases. But nice haul, nonetheless, enjoy them.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

My wife picked out 4 of those titles,

I got
AVP
Kiss of the dragon
Xmas story
Xmas Vacation
Sahara
5th Element (I knew about the PQ on this one)

but 10 BD movies for $125 you cant beat that!

[WhO Iz THiZ Iz]

im watching pitch black, HD. Loooks pretty good so far!

[grif32]

Check your local best buy for Departed HD DVD only 22.99 for a combo disk..

Wish I had a best buy near me.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....uct&id=1621200

Chris

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Ill check WM for you Grif and see what they have it for

[grif32]

Ill check WM for you Grif and see what they have it for

Thanks I want it and for $22.99 is a great price.

Chris

[PrimeBane]

Damn... I wish there was a sale on the Departed up here. :(

The best price I found was $32.99 CDN from Best Buy

[PrimeBane]

Hackers discover HD DVD and Blu-ray "processing key" -- all HD titles now exposed

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/13/hackers-discover-hd-dvd-and-blu-ray-processing-key-all-hd-t/

[johnnyknoxsvill]

its 29.99 at WM

[grif32]

its 29.99 at WM

Might have to take a road trip to BB when does the sale end??

Thanks johnnyknox

Chris

[grif32]

Hackers discover HD DVD and Blu-ray "processing key" -- all HD titles now exposed

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/13/hackers-discover-hd-dvd-and-blu-ray-processing-key-all-hd-t/


LOL if this is true. All those BR people making fun of HD DVD have nothing to laugh about now.

Chris

[Chugga]

After figuring out which titles I'd actually buy today I ran out to find the 3 of them. After 3 stops I came up with a grand total of 1.

[grif32]

After figuring out which titles I'd actually buy today I ran out to find the 3 of them. After 3 stops I came up with a grand total of 1.

LOL that sucks

[JaylisJayP]

After figuring out which titles I'd actually buy today I ran out to find the 3 of them. After 3 stops I came up with a grand total of 1.

which one did you get? Just Departed?

[Chugga]

Departed was the only movie out. Walmart had a bunch of new releases but crap I didn't want. Was looking for the Usual Suspects and Reign of Fire. No luck what-so-ever.

[oaktown2000]

I can't beleive they haven't seen it either


It definitely shows the age gap present on this board. Young Guns is a great movie.

YGII was great too, if you can get the picture of Viggo Mortensen forever being Aragorn out of your head :p.

[WingNut 25]

Grabbed The Departed for $22.99 at Best Buy. Can't wait to watch it.

[JaylisJayP]

wow, I actually received $20 of my $30 PS3 Blu-Ray rebates....heh, you all know what that's going toward.

Now the only question is....can I hold off until The Game comes out on HD DVD until April? Or do i pop for Constantine or another movie now?

[civictyperboy]

and wow...I have never seen the Departed and just finished watching it, and awesome picture quality and awesome movie, and watching it in Boston makes it even better

[sweetmisery]

Heres the latest about next gen in Australia(from IGN)

JB Hi-Fi to Stock Blu-ray Only
Aussie retailer backs Sony's format of choice.
by Patrick Kolan, IGN AU
Australia, February 13, 2007 - In a sign that HD DVD might well be dead on arrival when it is released in Australia within the next couple of months, major Australian entertainment retailer, JB Hi-Fi has commented that they will only be stocking Blu-ray format HD movies and entertainment.

According to iTWire, the company has backed the PS3's format of choice, simply due to the number of film companies who have committed to the format.

"Blu-ray is the only format that has the ability to tell the whole story, with the most comprehensive offering on the market. With seven of Hollywood's leading studios accounting for the vast majority of 2006's home video sales, among the 170 plus companies globally that support Blu-ray Disc, it makes sense that content will be king when it comes to Blu-ray," commented JB Hi-Fi Marketing Director Scott Browning.

We are curious as to whether this will affect their decision to sell the Xbox 360's HD DVD drive add-on, which is scheduled to be released in Australia in late March. We are currently seeking comment from the company, so check back soon for any developments.

[SBrooks1]

"Blu-ray is the only format that has the ability to tell the whole story, with the most comprehensive offering on the market.....

That's got to be the funniest comment by anyone ever promoting either format over the other. I guess HD-DVD just can't tell the whole story.... :( ...... LOL :D

[PrimeBane]

Picked the The Departed and Corpse Bride on HD-DVD tonight... I imagine the kids will crack Corpse Bride since they have Thursday and Friday off.

I hit 4 stores... not a one had The Departed in BD.

[VH Fan]

Hit Fry's and the eligible movies for buy one get one free on Blu-Ray weren't lighting my fire. There were only 2 i'd even want and one was sold out. However, I did end up picking up 5 movies. They had a great selection and most of their Blu-Ray movies were at least 2-5 dollars cheaper than everywhere else.

[grif32]

People wonder way Blu Ray is outselling HD DVD 2:1 thats because of all these 2 for 1 deals. They count them as 2 being sold. Sad part is HD DVD is still going strong without giving away free "CRAP" movies

Chris

[Smbdyfnkillme]

People wonder way Blu Ray is outselling HD DVD 2:1 thats because of all these 2 for 1 deals. They count them as 2 being sold. Sad part is HD DVD is still going strong without giving away free "CRAP" movies

Chris

Or it could be the fact that Blu Ray has and will continue to have a better and more varied selection of movies. 2 for 1 deals have been going on forever. Don't act like "evil" Sony concocted this scheme by themselves to take over the world.:rolleyes: It's called competing and if the HD DVD manufacturers were smart, they would hurry up and do something before it's too late.

[JaylisJayP]

Picked up Constantine yesterday through Amazon, should get it by Friday. Been eyeing that one since I got an HD DVD player back in November.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I thought Constantine had a great PQ. And it helps that I thought it was a great movie

[VH Fan]

Or it could be the fact that Blu Ray has and will continue to have a better and more varied selection of movies. 2 for 1 deals have been going on forever. Don't act like "evil" Sony concocted this scheme by themselves to take over the world.:rolleyes: It's called competing and if the HD DVD manufacturers were smart, they would hurry up and do something before it's too late.

Exactly. Blu-Ray is getting their movies out faster and with better overall selection. Plus, HD-DVD is in trouble as long as Disney, Fox and Sony continues to only support Blu-Ray. That's a TON of good titles HD-DVD won't be getting. There was a good article on the digital bits about the sales and that and they mentioned a format is only as good as the movie library available for it. Right now Blu-Ray has a far superior catelog and way more exclusive titles both out and on the way.

[PrimeBane]

Guys, this thread isn't about which is better or why one format is selling better than the other at the moment.

This thread is to post what you've purchased and how the PQ, sound, etc was.

If you want an HD DVD vs Blu-Ray smackdown, consider starting a new thread, although it's pretty pointless IMO.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Guys, this thread isn't about which is better or why one format is selling better than the other at the moment.

This thread is to post what you've purchased and how the PQ, sound, etc was.

If you want an HD DVD vs Blu-Ray smackdown, consider starting a new thread, although it's pretty pointless IMO.

Thank you Mr. Forum Moderator. I didn't know that. I could've sworn that the title of the thread was HD DVD, Blu-Ray Movies Discussion Thread. Carry on.

[PrimeBane]

Look, it's a topic that can get very heated (as we've seen already in other threads)... I really don't think we need to bring it in here and ruin a good thing.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Look, it's a topic that can get very heated (as we've seen already in other threads)... I really don't think we need to bring it in here and ruin a good thing.

I agree and all I did was refute what the other guy said. I wasn't trying to start an argument and so far, there hasn't been one.

[grif32]

I didnt see any arguement starting just Discussion thats it...

Chris

[PrimeBane]

I wasn't trying to point anyone out smbdy... sorry if it felt like I did.

I do a ton of reading everyday on HD DVD vs Blu-Ray so I've seen how innocent disucussions turn into heated debates... I just don't want to see that happen in this thread is all. :)

[Smbdyfnkillme]

I wasn't trying to point anyone out smbdy... sorry if it felt like I did.

I do a ton of reading everyday on HD DVD vs Blu-Ray so I've seen how innocent disucussions turn into heated debates... I just don't want to see that happen in this thread is all. :)

Don't worry about it. I'll start a "There is no God" thread later and we'll all have fun.:p

I don't want to jump into this format war too much because I hate being stuck with a losing format so I only have The Descent and Crank right now. The picture quality has to be excellent for me to buy it because otherwise there is no point. If I want a crappy picture, I can just go buy the DVD version for 1/3 of the price. I have a feeling that all the poor quality releases will be rereleased anyway so it's a waste of money to buy them now.

[sweetmisery]

Problem is, if one posts about Blu-Ray/HD DVD news, a pathetic fanboy will right away incorporate it as a system war. Pathetic. And we know who they are here.

[gaborikroenickguy]

hey fellas, I am just kinda curious what kinda cables you guys use for your dvd player (someone told me that there are cables for dvd players that can almost make dvds look like they are in hd or close to it) just wondering

[PrimeBane]

Well for standard DVD players most use component or S-Video cables.

For upconverting DVD players people use HDMI.

Cables alone though will not make your DVDs look like HD... upconversion is required and due to security in place, these upconversions (providing it's an upconverting DVD) can only be done over HDMI, DVI or VGA cables.

[gaborikroenickguy]

Well for standard DVD players most use component or S-Video cables.

For upconverting DVD players people use HDMI.

Cables alone though will not make your DVDs look like HD... upconversion is required and due to security in place, these upconversions (providing it's an upconverting DVD) can only be done over HDMI, DVI or VGA cables.
does it make the quality for dvds look consideribly better?

[Smbdyfnkillme]

does it make the quality for dvds look consideribly better?

If your DVD player is good enough to even use an HDMI cable, then the picture quality will be a pretty decent improvement. Don't listen to the guys on here that say the quality will approach Blu Ray and HD DVD levels of quality. That's completely ridiculous.

[Chugga]

The Prestige just got reviewed. 5 Star video transfer and said to arguably be the best Blu-Ray disk out to date. Gotta love Buena Vista, they have really stepped their game up from a less then amazing start.

[PrimeBane]

It depends on the upconverting player and the native resolution of your HDtv.

A good upconverting player, like the Oppo DVI-981 HD, can give you a next to HD picture on your HDtv especially if it's native res is 720p. At 1080i and 1080p the picture won't be quite as good, but still considerably better than a progressive scan DVD player.

[gaborikroenickguy]

thanks for the advice fellas

[johnnyknoxsvill]

if anyones intrested i have Departed on BD for $20 DLVD its still sealed. LMK

[grif32]

Don't worry about it. I'll start a "There is no God" thread later and we'll all have fun.:p

I don't want to jump into this format war too much because I hate being stuck with a losing format so I only have The Descent and Crank right now. The picture quality has to be excellent for me to buy it because otherwise there is no point. If I want a crappy picture, I can just go buy the DVD version for 1/3 of the price. I have a feeling that all the poor quality releases will be rereleased anyway so it's a waste of money to buy them now.

I was worried about jumping in as well but with two HDTV's I said screw it and bought the HD Add on for the xbox 360 and havent looked back. I dont care if BR beats out HD DVD because right now I am enjoying the heck out of it and so is the Girl Friend who didnt think it would look any better :D

I agree about only buying certain moives. I think they are releasing anything right now to get to movies out and I dont think thats the way to go about it. Take their time and put out some quailty HD movies.

Chris

[grif32]

if anyones intrested i have Departed on BD for $20 DLVD its still sealed. LMK

Great price.

If you have any other HD DVD's let me know.

Thanks
Chris

[JaylisJayP]

if anyones intrested i have Departed on BD for $20 DLVD its still sealed. LMK

Wow....you must be taking a loss on it. Why are you selling if you don't mind me asking?

[PrimeBane]

Saving Private Ryan on HD DVD?

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=8-17/qid=1171517581/ref=sr_8_17/601-9095521-9177761?ie=UTF8&asin=B000NA2BIQ

Interesting, but I imagine it's a mistake. :(

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Wow....you must be taking a loss on it. Why are you selling if you don't mind me asking?

I bought it at Bestbuy on HD and forgot that i ordered it through Amazon. I figure why go through the hassel of returning it, when i can offer it to someone on here for a decent price

[JaylisJayP]

I bought it at Bestbuy on HD and forgot that i ordered it through Amazon. I figure why go through the hassel of returning it, when i can offer it to someone on here for a decent price

Very nice of you!

[HollandX]

if anyones intrested i have Departed on BD for $20 DLVD its still sealed. LMK


Damn... I'll take it if you still got it.

[supertim]

I was worried about jumping in as well but with two HDTV's I said screw it and bought the HD Add on for the xbox 360 and havent looked back. I dont care if BR beats out HD DVD because right now I am enjoying the heck out of it and so is the Girl Friend who didnt think it would look any better :D

I agree about only buying certain moives. I think they are releasing anything right now to get to movies out and I dont think thats the way to go about it. Take their time and put out some quailty HD movies.

Chris

I agree with releasing titles just for release sake...

HD-DVD

* = Also on Blu-Ray

1930's Robin Hood
Blazing Saddles* (love the movie, unnecessary in HD)
Goodfellas
Babel*
You, Me & Dupree
Brokeback Mountain:rolleyes:
Accepted
Animal House (again, love it, but not needed in HD)
Enter The Dragon
The Sting
Casino
Casablanca
Beerfest*:rolleyes:
Black Rain*
The Game
Miami Vice
Eternal Sunshine...
Fear & Loathing...
Payback
Half-Baked
Deer Hunter
Bullitt*
The Italian Job*
Wicker Man*
Forbidden Planet
The Matador
Scorpion King (because it really, really sucked)
The Searchers*
Traffic
Spiderbiscuit
the Getaway*
Unforgiven*
Chicago & EW&F
Caddyshack (love it)
WTC*
Mutiny on the Bounty
Grand Prix
Training Day
Heart Live
Excalibur
Breakfast Club
The Jerk
Out of Sight
Ray
Christmas Vacation*
Toto*
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang*
Reds*
Field of Dreams
Christmas Story
Million Dollar Baby*
Syriana*
Fast Times @ Ridgemont High
Under Siege*
Dirty Dozen
Lethal Weapon 'Anthology'*
Alice Cooper
Dukes of Hazzard
Scary Movie 4
Happy Gilmore
Manilow Live:rolleyes: (OMG)
Four Brothers*
The Breakup
World's Fastest Indian*
Meet The Parents
Friday Night Lights
The Bone Collector
Good Night, and Good Luck*
Cinderella Man
Dazed & Confused
Nacho Libre*
Lake House*
Nutty Professor
The Architect*
Cream
The Manchurian Candidate*
House of Wax
The Interpreter
Grinch
Firewall*
Waist Deep
Rumor Has It*
ATL*
U2*
40 Year-Old Virgin
Friends
Se7en
2001
The West Wing
King Kong (1933)
Clockwork Orange
True Romance
Dirty Harry
Natural Born Killers
Eyes Wide Shut
Singin' In The Rain
Goonies
The Shining
Sister Street Fighter


BLU RAY

Babel
The Guardian
Reservoir Dogs
Rambo Movies
Chicago
American Psycho
Usual Suspects
NIN Live
Hitchhiker's Guide...
Stranger Than Fiction
Resident Evil
All the Saw Movies
Mr. & Mrs. Smith
The Devil Wears Prada
The Marine
Terminator (original)
Gone In 60 Seconds
Entrapment
Vertical Limit
Kung Fu Hustle
Running w/ Scissors
Invincible
The Sentinel
Speed
Enemy of the State
Aeon Flux (total crap)
Tailor of Panama
The Covenant:rolleyes:
Memento
Chain Reaction
Big Fish
Gridiron Gang
Casanova
The Holiday
Ladder 49
Pursuit of Happyness
Employee of the Month
Click
LXG
The Last Waltz
Finding Neverland
Phone Booth
Rocky
Crash
District B13 (???)
XXX
Flightplan
50 First Dates
Men of Honor
All The King's Men
Eight Below
The Fugitive
A Knight's Tale
Hoosiers
Behind Enemy Lines
Jay & Silent Bob
G.I. Jane
Rising Sun
Benchwarmers
Little Man
Glory Road
RV
The Natural
Flight of the Phoenix
Basic Instinct 2:rolleyes:
Enron
The Omen
Me, Myself, & Irene
Annapolis
One Last Thing (???)
Identity
Stir of Echoes
The War Within
Volver
Da Vinci Code
Legends of the Fall
Grudge Movies
John Legend
Princess Bride
Sense & Sensibility
Devil's Rejects
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Guns of Navarone
Hitch
Gattaca
For A Few Dollars More





Obviously, I know I missed some titles that are on both formats, and exclusives, too. Also, the BR list is shorter because there's no point in naming the same movie twice that's on BR & HD-DVD. I suppose I could have put the titles that share formats in one list, but I don't have that much free time:)

The titles listed above are the ones I think should not be in high definition. I did not base it on 'good' or 'bad' movie, just ones I felt were either so crappy that they weren't worthy to be in high def, or were unnecessary to be seen in HD (Blazing Saddles Adventure of Robin Hood, Dirty Dozen, movies with no FX, etcetera).

[Chugga]

Theres a alot I disagree with....first and foremost John Legend: Live at the House of Blues. I know it's a little homer in me talking (I'm a huge John Legend fan, have front row seats to his next show around here) but it's got HD audio....I can't even bring myself to listen to his first cd anymore because it just sounds at least 50 billion times better in PCM 5.1.

Another few names that stick out to me are Memento and Big Fish. Both of those are 2 of my favorite movies of all time and shine in HD. Memento had a really strong transfer and Big Fish has all the potential in the world to look amazing. Thats one of the most colorful movies I've probably ever seen before in my life, it's a movie that could really catch people by suprise in the picture department.

I just personally don't agree with the whole "they should stop releasing movies just for the sake of releasing movies" argument. Both of these formats are trying their hardest to muscle DVD out of the equation...everyone looks at this war as blu-ray vs. hd-dvd but in the end both of those guys can fail if they don't squeeze enough people away from DVD....so you can't just release movies that will traditionally look good in HD...you've gotta throw everyone out there and hope certain things stick with certain crowds. Everyone knows they should buy blu-ray/hd-dvd for spider-man, king kong, etc. But what after they get their eye candy purchases out of the way....they are going to want the classics that they've loved for years, stuff like Rambo, Rocky, etc. While I know basically everyone in this thread is more concerned with the whole pristine HD aspect more then anything else (I myself am also guilty of this) when it's all said and done these companies want to flat out replace a format that has every single title known to man out for it. They gotta make steps towards catching up with a format that seems almost impossible to catch up to. Also it's a huge selling point for both sides. If one format has 400 titles on it's shelves and another has 200 regardless of how awful the 400 titles may be the casual consumer making decisions based off of which format is going to have more movies he likes is always going to go with the display overflowing with tons of different movies....even if 50 of those movies consist of dude wheres my car, little man, and the covenant.

You'd be suprised by movie fans out there. And while it may sound strange some of my favorite blu-ray movies I own are Rambo, Lethal Weapon, etc. Mainly because watching them on normal DVD is just painful...I feel like I'm watching those movies on 18inch radio/tv's. The step from dvd to blu-ray/hd-dvd on some of the older flicks can be breathtaking...granted you may not see every single hair on a mans beard like alot of 2004+'s movies just the overall pictures receives such an upgrade that I never have a problem dropping $20's on an upgrade of a 1980's movie.

[PrimeBane]

Some interesting developments across the pond.

Studio Canal (major movie distributor) was pretty much an HD DVD exlusive company, will now release BD movies.

And Fox in Europe will be releasing HD DVDs.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

The problem here is that there aren't a whole lot of people who say: "OMG, I can't even watch regular DVDs anymore!". Hardly anybody says that. There aren't going to be a whole lot of people upgrading their Breakfast Club and Fast Times DVDs anytime soon. What would be the purpose? It's almost 3 times the price for a slightly improved picture. The people you just described are casual buyers who wouldn't buy HD or Blu Ray right now anyway because of the price. No thanks, I'll keep my regular movies and only replace stuff with a quality picture.

[Chugga]

Some interesting developments across the pond.

Studio Canal (major movie distributor) was pretty much an HD DVD exlusive company, will now release BD movies.

And Fox in Europe will be releasing HD DVDs.

I know it won't happen anytime soon but I'm still hoping the next news break is "Weinstein goes neutral". I just really want Clerks 2. Thats about it.

[PrimeBane]

Honestly Chugga, I wouldn't be surprised to see Weinstain go neutral next year... same goes for Universal and Lion's Gate... Beuna Vista is my longshot to go neutral, but they're a way safer bet than the morons at Fox.

[Chugga]

It's strange because about 3 months ago when Buena Vista was releasing crap transfers of crap movies on Blu-Ray Buena Vista was talked about as getting a 1 way ticket to format neutrality. And then CES blew most of those thoughts away and now they are one of Blu-Rays most loyal companies.

I personally think alot of the smaller studios will go format neutral just because they don't have alot of stuff to put out and they'll have to find a way to sell stuff eventually. Weinstein has a bunch of good movies but after their initial 2 year burst with HD-DVD they honestly don't have much left to really put out thats going to be a success. Same with Lions Gate....they've got some great titles but they'll run their course sooner then the heavy hitters like Universal and Buena Vista.

As for Universal....I mean I'd love to hear that announcement, but not yet. It's actually somewhat of a blessing in disguise that each format only has so many backers....so you aren't getting bombarded with 25 releases a week. I like the fact that we're only getting maybe 3-8 titles a week. Warners slow rollout has helped too...I still get to look forward to stuff like Batman Begins and V for Vendetta.

I wanted to be format neutral but my wallet told me no on numerous occassions. It's not the $200 HD-DVD add-on that makes my wallet cry, it's the ridiculous amount of titles that I know I'd be suckered into buying. I mean I've given alot of titles tryouts in hd....some had good results (the guardian) and some were well...not smart choices (into the blue). And I know if I had both players the sheer amount of movies "I'd give a shot" would have me broke by May.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Im just waiting for the Goonies dammit.....lol I will be picking that up right away when it comes out.

[PrimeBane]

Well, when it comes to Beuna Vista I figure if HD DVD can prove itself saleswise to them then they'll go neutral... they're not as firmly planted as Sony or Fox (Sony owns stock in Fox and Fox are the DRM nazis).

Universal will go neutral simply due to the large numbers...

By mid 2008 assuming HD DVD does well enough sales wise, the only remaining non neutral studios will be Fox and Sony (and any studios owned by them).

But that's just my opinion.

[JaylisJayP]

Picked up Casino yesterday...which effectively completes for the time being my list of wanted HD DVDs.

[JaylisJayP]

The problem here is that there aren't a whole lot of people who say: "OMG, I can't even watch regular DVDs anymore!". Hardly anybody says that.

I actually am one of those people. At least to the point that I am extremely aware that I'm watching a SD DVD instead of something in either HD format.

[JaylisJayP]

You'd be suprised by movie fans out there. And while it may sound strange some of my favorite blu-ray movies I own are Rambo, Lethal Weapon, etc. Mainly because watching them on normal DVD is just painful...I feel like I'm watching those movies on 18inch radio/tv's. The step from dvd to blu-ray/hd-dvd on some of the older flicks can be breathtaking...granted you may not see every single hair on a mans beard like alot of 2004+'s movies just the overall pictures receives such an upgrade that I never have a problem dropping $20's on an upgrade of a 1980's movie.

This is very true. I'm just opening my eyes to the fact that there really is no major differences between the "tiers" on the avsforum threads. There's really just the HD tier and the SD tier. I've started dabbling in the lower Tier 2, upper Tier 3 movies and honestly find some of them look better than stuff they have it Tier 1.

I just watched The Usual Suspects Blu Ray today, a low-budget movie from 13 years ago, and I thought it looked damn amazing. I ditched my DVD copy last year and hadn't seen it for a while, and while I'm sure it'll get placed somewhere in Tier 2 or Tier 3 on the avsforum thread....to me it's worth every penny.

[freezerfuel]

In my travels to Wal-Mart to pick up a component cable for my PS2 I noticed a Blue-Ray shelf... (nothing huge, about 3 feet wide by 4 shelves) so I got to wondering where the HD-DVD's are and couldn't find any. Is this just the one Wal-Mart I visited or is Wal-Mart only supporting one format?

Anyone out there upgrade, sell all their DVD's, and wish they hadn't? Just curious....

[Radiation74]

I actually am one of those people. At least to the point that I am extremely aware that I'm watching a SD DVD instead of something in either HD format.


me too. I know it sounds ridiculous, but the difference is amazing.

[JaylisJayP]

In my travels to Wal-Mart to pick up a component cable for my PS2 I noticed a Blue-Ray shelf... (nothing huge, about 3 feet wide by 4 shelves) so I got to wondering where the HD-DVD's are and couldn't find any. Is this just the one Wal-Mart I visited or is Wal-Mart only supporting one format?

Anyone out there upgrade, sell all their DVD's, and wish they hadn't? Just curious....


Well, there's still a million DVDs that don't exist yet on the HD formats, however, I have traded in or sold every one of my DVDs that I've replaced with the same title. Can't say I regret it at all.

[WingNut 25]

What's out on HD DVD next week?

[JaylisJayP]

What's out on HD DVD next week?

Babel (Paramount)

Looks like that's it right now.

[WingNut 25]

Thanks Jay. Not gonna buy that one but I have a $5 Best Buy Reward Zone coupon that expires on the 24th and I leave for Nashville on the 22nd so I'm gonna pick something up on HD. Just not sure what. The leading candidate is The Last Samurai. Worth grabbing?

[Chugga]

In my travels to Wal-Mart to pick up a component cable for my PS2 I noticed a Blue-Ray shelf... (nothing huge, about 3 feet wide by 4 shelves) so I got to wondering where the HD-DVD's are and couldn't find any. Is this just the one Wal-Mart I visited or is Wal-Mart only supporting one format?

Anyone out there upgrade, sell all their DVD's, and wish they hadn't? Just curious....

No not all Walmarts are like that....all 4 of my Walmarts carry both formats but tend to endorse just 1 of them. The Walmart I go to the most (super walmart) has about 12 Blu-Ray movies (not a lack of movies just they get in 1 shipment and with the great prices they sell out real quick and then never restock) and about 4 HD-DVD movies. They never get ANY new HD-DVD movies in unless it's a huge release....they got in King Kong, Superman, and now The Departed but anything outside of that and they don't carry it. All my other 3 Walmarts are alot more of the same thing. If I had to say it I honestly believe Walmart is at least partially biased.

As for selling my original DVD collection I haven't done that yet. Right now I'm just replacing 1 by 1 (on titles I deem worthy of replacing). I picked up Crash on Blu-Ray and the next day traded in Crash on DVD at Gamestop...same for a few more titles like Pearl Harbor, Lethal Weapon, etc. And no I haven't looked back or regretted it one bit...I'm kinda hooked on the whole HD era, my TV is finally living up to it's expectations and I love it.

[JaylisJayP]

Thanks Jay. Not gonna buy that one but I have a $5 Best Buy Reward Zone coupon that expires on the 24th and I leave for Nashville on the 22nd so I'm gonna pick something up on HD. Just not sure what. The leading candidate is The Last Samurai. Worth grabbing?

You can already get that for 5 bucks cheaper at Target. It retails for 19.99 there. So, maybe ask them to match the price and then get the 5 bucks off in addition.

The Last Samurai was good. I have seen the movie and own it on HD DVD, but can't speak to the PQ since I haven't seen the HD DVD yet. But reviews are positive of it.

Sahara is a good one if you don't already have that. Summer action flick, not much depth, but looks fantastic and is a lot of fun.

[grif32]

Theres a alot I disagree with....first and foremost John Legend: Live at the House of Blues. I know it's a little homer in me talking (I'm a huge John Legend fan, have front row seats to his next show around here) but it's got HD audio....I can't even bring myself to listen to his first cd anymore because it just sounds at least 50 billion times better in PCM 5.1.

Another few names that stick out to me are Memento and Big Fish. Both of those are 2 of my favorite movies of all time and shine in HD. Memento had a really strong transfer and Big Fish has all the potential in the world to look amazing. Thats one of the most colorful movies I've probably ever seen before in my life, it's a movie that could really catch people by suprise in the picture department.

I just personally don't agree with the whole "they should stop releasing movies just for the sake of releasing movies" argument. Both of these formats are trying their hardest to muscle DVD out of the equation...everyone looks at this war as blu-ray vs. hd-dvd but in the end both of those guys can fail if they don't squeeze enough people away from DVD....so you can't just release movies that will traditionally look good in HD...you've gotta throw everyone out there and hope certain things stick with certain crowds. Everyone knows they should buy blu-ray/hd-dvd for spider-man, king kong, etc. But what after they get their eye candy purchases out of the way....they are going to want the classics that they've loved for years, stuff like Rambo, Rocky, etc. While I know basically everyone in this thread is more concerned with the whole pristine HD aspect more then anything else (I myself am also guilty of this) when it's all said and done these companies want to flat out replace a format that has every single title known to man out for it. They gotta make steps towards catching up with a format that seems almost impossible to catch up to. Also it's a huge selling point for both sides. If one format has 400 titles on it's shelves and another has 200 regardless of how awful the 400 titles may be the casual consumer making decisions based off of which format is going to have more movies he likes is always going to go with the display overflowing with tons of different movies....even if 50 of those movies consist of dude wheres my car, little man, and the covenant.

You'd be suprised by movie fans out there. And while it may sound strange some of my favorite blu-ray movies I own are Rambo, Lethal Weapon, etc. Mainly because watching them on normal DVD is just painful...I feel like I'm watching those movies on 18inch radio/tv's. The step from dvd to blu-ray/hd-dvd on some of the older flicks can be breathtaking...granted you may not see every single hair on a mans beard like alot of 2004+'s movies just the overall pictures receives such an upgrade that I never have a problem dropping $20's on an upgrade of a 1980's movie.

Chugga the problem is you or I might not have a problem dropping $20 - $35 on a new HD DVD but the casual DVD buyer will say no way no how. The PQ is just not there for the price increase to most people.

DVD will be here forever and noway will HD DVD or Blu Ray muscle them out. As much as I would love for them to it just wont happen.

Most people (unlike us) will not replace older movies that they already own on DVD. Well not anytime soon.

I think they need to take their time with movies. It should be all about PQ (and AQ) and nothing else when it comes to HD movies. I mean cmon thats what HD is all about. Not a slight improvement in PQ but an mouth dropping expirence. Thats why we spend thousands on our HDTV's


chris

[JaylisJayP]

Chugga the problem is you or I might not have a problem dropping $20 - $35 on a new HD DVD but the casual DVD buyer will say no way no how. The PQ is just not there for the price increase to most people.

DVD will be here forever and noway will HD DVD or Blu Ray muscle them out. As much as I would love for them to it just wont happen.

Most people (unlike us) will not replace older movies that they already own on DVD. Well not anytime soon.

I think they need to take their time with movies. It should be all about PQ (and AQ) and nothing else when it comes to HD movies. I mean cmon thats what HD is all about. Not a slight improvement in PQ but an mouth dropping expirence. Thats why we spend thousands on our HDTV's


chris

Good points...even I have difficulty justifying the upgrade over a movie I already own unless it's a jaw-dropping transfer. In fact, Casino and Training Day are the only ones that have replaced DVDs in my collection, and both of those were gifts.

[Smbdyfnkillme]

Chugga the problem is you or I might not have a problem dropping $20 - $35 on a new HD DVD but the casual DVD buyer will say no way no how. The PQ is just not there for the price increase to most people.

DVD will be here forever and noway will HD DVD or Blu Ray muscle them out. As much as I would love for them to it just wont happen.

Most people (unlike us) will not replace older movies that they already own on DVD. Well not anytime soon.

I think they need to take their time with movies. It should be all about PQ (and AQ) and nothing else when it comes to HD movies. I mean cmon thats what HD is all about. Not a slight improvement in PQ but an mouth dropping expirence. Thats why we spend thousands on our HDTV's


chris

You hit the nail on the head. That's exactly how I buy my HD movies. I have the money to buy anything that comes out, but I'm not wasting my money for the hell of it.

[grif32]

What BR player do you guys own other then the PS3??

[PrimeBane]

I don't think anyone that posts here owns any other BD player than the PS3... from what I remember anyways.

Speaking of BD... you lucky bastiges are getting Sin City in the near future
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Disney/Disc_Announcements/Disney_Blu-ray_Preview_Offers_First_News_on_Sin_City_/478

I've watched this movie 3 times on my HD movie channel and IMO BD owners are in for a real treat with this disk. :)

[PrimeBane]

Does anyone have Lucky Number Slevin on HD DVD? Is it worthwhile purchase?

I haven't seen all the movie yet, but the little I did seemed entertaining.

[oaktown2000]

Chugga the problem is you or I might not have a problem dropping $20 - $35 on a new HD DVD but the casual DVD buyer will say no way no how. The PQ is just not there for the price increase to most people.

DVD will be here forever and noway will HD DVD or Blu Ray muscle them out. As much as I would love for them to it just wont happen.

Most people (unlike us) will not replace older movies that they already own on DVD. Well not anytime soon.

I think they need to take their time with movies. It should be all about PQ (and AQ) and nothing else when it comes to HD movies. I mean cmon thats what HD is all about. Not a slight improvement in PQ but an mouth dropping expirence. Thats why we spend thousands on our HDTV's

chris

You are absolutely correct. I know...because I am one of these people. I've had this conversation before with chugga over xbox live while killing various things....be it Gears, Rainbow Six, or Oblivion.

While I can easily admit there is a difference in the picture quality between SD and HD ones....there is not enough of a difference in experience that makes me want to A) go buy an HD player and B) start paying over $20 a movie to replace my DVDs. Yes...the picture will look a little better....the sound will be a little more crisp....but it's just not a big enough leap forward to make me move on to the next level.

With gaming consoles....it was an easy choice...once I played the 360....it was worth it to move up from the PS2.

With tv's....another easy choice....the difference between my widescreen 1080i LCD and my 32" standard rear projection tv was like night and day and well worth the money.

With surround sound speakers.....another easy choice. Listening to anything (games, movies, football) is 10X better in surround sound then with just the TV speakers.

That's part of the reason I can't see making the jump to HD DVDs. When I went from watching DVDs on my 32" tv to watching them on my 1080i LCD with surround sound...it was like WOW!!!! Gladiator looked AMAZING. Saving Private Ryan sounded INCREDIBLE with the bullets whizzing past your head (or at least it seemed like they were). To me...the money invested to get that experience upgrade was well worth it.

However, the HD format just doesn't push things so far forward from what I have now that I must go out and purchase it. It is just not worth it to me. And I am betting grif32 is correct and that there are a lot more out there like me.

[Chugga]

Chugga the problem is you or I might not have a problem dropping $20 - $35 on a new HD DVD but the casual DVD buyer will say no way no how. The PQ is just not there for the price increase to most people.

DVD will be here forever and noway will HD DVD or Blu Ray muscle them out. As much as I would love for them to it just wont happen.

Most people (unlike us) will not replace older movies that they already own on DVD. Well not anytime soon.

I think they need to take their time with movies. It should be all about PQ (and AQ) and nothing else when it comes to HD movies. I mean cmon thats what HD is all about. Not a slight improvement in PQ but an mouth dropping expirence. Thats why we spend thousands on our HDTV's


chris

I understand where you are coming from....most casual people won't even talk about not replacing their collections because most casual people won't even look at buying a player with how expensive they are right now. But in all honesty what I believe we are looking at it early adopters price gouging...but thats another point for another day.

As for DVD it's still a fight that you need to wage. Will blu-ray or hd dvd ever actually topple DVD? Of course not, will never happen, doesn't even have a chance. But you've still gotta fight just for the sake of fighting and to put on a good show for the consumers.

While I understand the whole "but those movies aren't even good in HD" line the movies that are getting released now are just to fill up store displays. Of all the movies you've listed I saw a ton of movies I could either care less about, suck, or are pointless to have on HD. BUT this war is all about showing dominance and like I had said before if one company can put out 500 titles while the other hardly hits 250 people are going to see that and people are going to take notice. It's like flashing your wallet and having a 50 in the front, a 100 in the back and the middle of your wallet laced with tons of 1 dollar bills. You look rich as hell, but if you look deeper we all know you aren't. Thats what high def companies are trying to do they are trying to fill up those displays and look dominant when in reality more then half the titles are crap.

You just can't take everything for face value here...everyone is fighting for position in every way they can. These crap HD releases are no different, just space fillers.

[Chugga]

What BR player do you guys own other then the PS3??

I have the PS3 to hold me over until I get something better. Possibly this coming holiday season I might pick up a 2nd gen player depending on how things are going and who can get out a quality player.

[meatgoat]

I have a slightly OT question.

Is there a noticable difference between HDMI cables as far as picture quality is concerned? I just picked up a new tv for my bedroom and was shopping cables. Just as an example Monster Cable 12ft HDMI's were more than twice as much as a 12ft Phillips cable.

[PrimeBane]

If you want an HDMI cable for cheap, order one from www.monoprice.com

No, you probably won't see any difference between HDMI and component cables.

[meatgoat]

Thanks for the link.

I've decided to use HDMI over component simply for the convenience. I was wondering if there is a difference in HDMI quality from different manufacturers?

[oaktown2000]

No...you're just going to pay more for the "Monster Cables" name.

[PrimeBane]

With HDMI the digital signal either gets there or it doesn't.

Of course there are exceptions like long cable runs and VERY high end home theatres, but for the average consumer, the $10 HDMI cable will work just as well as the $200 one.

[meatgoat]

Thanks for the info. I was gonna go with a 12 footer from Phillips for $40 but if there isn't a difference I'll order the ones from the link you provided for $20.

[PrimeBane]

Another thing you could do is check our your local computer store... they should have them reasonably priced as well if you don't feel like waiting for the mail.

[meatgoat]

I'm not in a big hurry. I still have to wait for the HD DVR from Directv. Besides it'll take me a couple weeks to mount it to the wall anyway.

[grif32]

Just watched Departed HD DVD and holy crap what a amazing movie.. Unreal.....

WOW!!!!

Chris

[grif32]

I have the PS3 to hold me over until I get something better. Possibly this coming holiday season I might pick up a 2nd gen player depending on how things are going and who can get out a quality player.

I want a BR now I have my tax money but not sure if i want the PS3 or a standalone. Man choices choices choices.

Chris

[JaylisJayP]

Grif, from what I have read (a few articles here and there), the PS3 holds up very well as a blu ray player. And if you at any point are going to play the games, to me it's a no-brainer.

[Chugga]

PS3 is the best blu-ray player out on the market hands down. Not because it has amazing blu-ray features and functionality, but because you can play PS3 games on it. Now don't get me wrong the PS3 overall is pretty weak right now, most of it's best games I own for the 360 and the few exclusives aren't exactly amazing. But one day thats going to change and when that day comes you'll have both a BR player and a PS3.

Then to top all of that off it's the cheapest player out on the market now. Sure the Samsung can be had for $700 but thats the faultiest BR player out right now, I can't imagine wanting to go out and buy that one. You could always go with the Sony or Panasonic but those are going to run you a G each and theres no hiding it what-so-ever they are overpriced by about $500.

For me the PS3 has made a great opener for Blu-Ray....one of these days I will get a standalone player for the extra features/functionality but today isn't that day. I'd much rather see some second gen players and solid players that don't require 50 hours of firmware.

[JaylisJayP]

The only thing the PS3 is lacking is upconversion capability for SD DVDs. Well, not the only thing, but the main thing.

[PrimeBane]

Upconversion on the PS3 is "supposed to" be available next month.

I'd love one just for BD playback, but until the price comes down or there's a few games that I "have to" have it's not in my future.

Back to movies... watched Corpse Bride last night... beautiful PQ but I found it to be a dud of a movie like much of the crap Tim Burton puts out.

[JaylisJayP]

Upconversion on the PS3 is "supposed to" be available next month.

I'd love one just for BD playback, but until the price comes down or there's a few games that I "have to" have it's not in my future.

Back to movies... watched Corpse Bride last night... beautiful PQ but I found it to be a dud of a movie like much of the crap Tim Burton puts out.

yeah not the greatest movie, but I enjoyed it.

[dayday6]

The only thing the PS3 is lacking is upconversion capability for SD DVDs. Well, not the only thing, but the main thing.

The PS3 are doing upconversion now, but you have to install Linux first. Until I see more people installing Linux, I will wait.

The Tech Savvy are using VLC to play the DVDs on their PS3 upconverted.

[johnnyknoxsvill]

Im waiting for NBC on BD or HD That movie will look awesome!!!

[PrimeBane]

Watched The Departed last night... best HD DVD I own.

Terrific PQ, awesome story... a MUST own disk in either HD format. :)

[JaylisJayP]

Watched The Departed last night... best HD DVD I own.

Terrific PQ, awesome story... a MUST own disk in either HD format. :)

Yeah we watched the blu-ray last night. Not the best picture quality out there, but definitely up at the top. Crank was better imo.

Also watched the Mummy HD-DVD, which looks good. And we picked up The Mummy Returns HD DVD today. Gonna watch that one tonight.

[grif32]

Yeah we watched the blu-ray last night. Not the best picture quality out there, but definitely up at the top. Crank was better imo.

Also watched the Mummy HD-DVD, which looks good. And we picked up The Mummy Returns HD DVD today. Gonna watch that one tonight.

Crank should be the best BR out there. I believe that was shot with and HD camera.

Departed HD look good but not great. Flip it to the SD side an almost cried. SD was so bad. Its getting hard to watch SD movies now

Mummy Returns the 1st half PQ was not good. The 2nd half of the movie the PQ was amazing.

I need to pick up the Mummy on HD.

I am going to sell my Xbox 360 Add-on here in a few days. Going to pick up the Toshiba HD A2 only because I can not upcovert with the 360 since I dont have VGA. Atleast the Toshiba will upcovert over HDMI

Really want tha AX2 but for $800 way to rich for my blood.

Chris

[dayday6]

Crank should be the best BR out there. I believe that was shot with and HD camera.

Departed HD look good but not great. Flip it to the SD side an almost cried. SD was so bad. Its getting hard to watch SD movies now

Mummy Returns the 1st half PQ was not good. The 2nd half of the movie the PQ was amazing.

I need to pick up the Mummy on HD.

I am going to sell my Xbox 360 Add-on here in a few days. Going to pick up the Toshiba HD A2 only because I can not upcovert with the 360 since I dont have VGA. Atleast the Toshiba will upcovert over HDMI

Really want tha AX2 but for $800 way to rich for my blood.

Chris

Dang, you are sold on the HD-DVD format.:D

I would have cut & run if I had the opportunity.;)

[JaylisJayP]

HD DVD will still be around for at least another couple years. Universal won't jump ship before then.

Watched Accepted just now...**** Blockbuster disc started freezing up. Anyway, the movie looked all right, pretty flat. Movie itself was surprisingly enjoyable, though nothing I'd buy.

[PrimeBane]

Exactly... when both sides have barely sold 500k each, neither is exactly burning up the video sales charts.

Both formats will remain in play until HVD destroys them both with its 1440p movies. :D

[PrimeBane]

For any fellow Canucks... Bestbuy is having a preferred customer sale until tomorrow morning... 10% off all movies.

www.bestbuy.ca