"America's (most hated) team"

[Hardcore Legend]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7323070


It's been almost five years since Red Sox president Larry Lucchino labeled the Yankees "The Evil Empire." It was a great line, and sportswriters everywhere remain indebted to him. But let's frame its context. His utterance followed the Yankees' signing of Jose Contreras, a move that once again demonstrated the Empire's capacity for expensive folly. Still, one imagines Lucchino vowing it would never happen again.




Save for a withering owner, the Red Sox are not at all unlike their former nemesis. They are an empire of their own now. And if you rooted for the Red Sox because they weren't the Yankees, aren't you now obligated to root for the Indians?

Do the math. Add the salaries of C.C. Sabathia, Fausto Carmona, Grady Sizemore, Franklin Guttierrez, Jhonny Peralta, Chris Gomez, Rafael Betancourt, Rafael Perez and Ryan Garko.

Now what do you have?
About a half million less than J.D. Drew.

[Bronx Bombers]

Yea, everyone gets on Yankees for buying talent. But when you look at rosters before September call ups. The Yankees had FAR more home grown players on the team. Boston had about 4, Yankees around 12. And dont forget the Mets getting old stars past their prime. Delgado, Green, Glavine, Lo Duca, Pedro, Alou, just to name a few

[madden821]

I hate Boston more than NY. They win ONE World Series in 100 years and they suddenly think they are the greatest franchise ever... and their spending is close enough to NY's.

[BlakChamber]

Yankees = Evil Empire.

Red Sox = Evil Empire Jr.

[soxn07]

I hate Boston more than NY. They win ONE World Series in 100 years and they suddenly think they are the greatest franchise ever... and their spending is close enough to NY's.

I would hate winning teams too if I never had a day without rain and all pro sports in my area sucked , the best move the sonics ever make is getting the hell outta there.

[soxn07]

Yankees = Evil Empire.

Red Sox = Evil Empire Jr.

Spartans= Boring.

[Poochiesdead]

The reason the Red Sox and Yankees do it is to get back at each other, and they have the resources to do it. Red Sox try to get A-Rod, can't work out a compensation deal with the PA, and then the Yankees scoop him out from under them. To fight that, the Sox go get Curt Schilling. Last year, the Yankees go out and sign Johnny Damon for no other reason than to spite the Sox. This year the Sox bid a bajillion dollars to get Daisuke Matsuzaka (so the Yankees won't get him) and so the Yankees go and sign Kei Igawa (hehe :D). It's a constant one upping.

You know the Yankees are gonna go hard after Schilling this year, if for no other reason than to take him from the Red Sox.

[BlakChamber]

Spartans= Boring.

Ahhh, nothing like the old "I can't dispute the article, so I'll attack whatever team the poster likes." Very clever :rolleyes:

And the Spartans aren't boring, they're chokers who can't close out a game. Get it right ;)

[HoosierDaddy]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7323070
You should make a thread with a poll for most hated NFL team. I'm interested to know if it will end up being Pittsburgh, Dallas or New England.

[soxn07]

Ahhh, nothing like the old "I can't dispute the article, so I'll attack whatever team the poster likes." Very clever :rolleyes:

And the Spartans aren't boring, they're chokers who can't close out a game. Get it right ;)

I won't argue that the Sox spend alot of money to try and one-up the Yanks , but if you look at the ratings , baseball is killed with a non Red sox or Yankee World series.

[SEAHAWKS ROCK!]

I would hate winning teams too if I never had a day without rain and all pro sports in my area sucked , the best move the sonics ever make is getting the hell outta there.

yeah, those hurricanes must be so joyous to endure:rolleyes: clown

[soxn07]

yeah, those hurricanes must be so joyous to endure:rolleyes: clown

Yeah Miami has'nt been any good for a while now. ( quick look out side - No rain 80 something degrees.) Clown.

[Ronzie]

N.Y. Yankees & Dallas Cowboys for me.

[SEAHAWKS ROCK!]

Yeah Miami has'nt been any good for a while now. ( quick look out side - No rain 80 something degrees.) Clown.

ha!ha! i'll take the Pacific Northwest anytime. each to they're own. looks outside-Sunny 14 degrees. perfect.

[soxn07]

I'M from Boise , ID and have visited Key arena , the old kingdome , new safeco. Only to see The celtics and sox beat up on area teams , Dont miss the weather.

[Flenker]

I would hate winning teams too if I never had a day without rain and all pro sports in my area sucked , the best move the sonics ever make is getting the hell outta there.

Spartans= Boring.

and it's fans like you that make people like the team even less

[Hardcore Legend]

and it's fans like you that make people like the team even less

That's part of the article. The fans have become worse than Yankee fans ever were.

[Mega Daddy T]

Why not spend on talent?
Would it be preferable for a championship team to sell everyone off and go back to sucking for 50 years?
I'd rather see my team spend on talent than more trips to Cancun for the directors and thier families.

[colliek]

When I went to Boston in 2001 to see a game at Fenway I was asked where I was from (Minnesota) and if i was a fan of the Yankees about 10 times. Same trip I went to Yankee Stadium and was asked where I was from and if I was in town for Puckett going into the hall of fame.

[soxn07]

That's part of the article. The fans have become worse than Yankee fans ever were.

Good , less Bandwagoners. And I'll take HL & flunkers comments as compliments.

[Flenker]

Good , less Bandwagoners. And I'll take HL & flunkers comments as compliments.

clever, you changed a letter of my name to make it something else.

I think it means just the opposite, there are more bandwagoners (even Bill Simmons, a huge New England sports homer admits this). And why would you take it as a compliment that the teams have bad fans?

[timmyt]

baseball needs to be the next sport to add a salary cap.

[JerseyDevil]

New York Yankees by far.

[madden821]

I would hate winning teams too if I never had a day without rain and all pro sports in my area sucked , the best move the sonics ever make is getting the hell outta there.


Doesn't rain nearly as much as people think and I have been a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan since1979 and I'd still rather be here than in FL.

[BlakChamber]

That's part of the article. The fans have become worse than Yankee fans ever were.

QFT.

[deogg]

baseball needs to be the next sport to add a salary cap.

Bingo

[HoosierDaddy]

You should make a thread with a poll for most hated NFL team. I'm interested to know if it will end up being Pittsburgh, Dallas or New England.
OK, I'll do it.

[deogg]

You should make a thread with a poll for most hated NFL team. I'm interested to know if it will end up being Pittsburgh, Dallas or New England.

On this board, I think the Deadskins would give all of the above a run for their collective money.

[Donnellk13]

The reason the Red Sox and Yankees do it is to get back at each other, and they have the resources to do it. Red Sox try to get A-Rod, can't work out a compensation deal with the PA, and then the Yankees scoop him out from under them. To fight that, the Sox go get Curt Schilling. Last year, the Yankees go out and sign Johnny Damon for no other reason than to spite the Sox. This year the Sox bid a bajillion dollars to get Daisuke Matsuzaka (so the Yankees won't get him) and so the Yankees go and sign Kei Igawa (hehe :D). It's a constant one upping.

You know the Yankees are gonna go hard after Schilling this year, if for no other reason than to take him from the Red Sox.


Schilling wont play for the Yankees he has said it numerous of times and I dont see them trying to sign him

[deogg]

Schilling wont play for the Yankees he has said it numerous of times and I dont see them trying to sign him

So did Johnny Damon. And we all know how fast he sold out.

[SeattleMariners51445]

Good , less Bandwagoners. And I'll take HL & flunkers comments as compliments.
You shouldn't talk, being a Red Sox fan who hails from Florida. Nobody is going to take you seriosly anymore, all your posts are childish and stupid and show how big of a forum troll you are. I see you as one bottled up, angry 12 year old who's mommy wouldn't let him have dessert. When making fun of someone's team, try to use evidence and not look like an idiot. "Spartans=boring", wow, I'm sure you got his goat!:rolleyes:

[TastySweetNutz]

As a Yanks fan I really enjoyed the article...of course. :p

[ptrac30]

I like the RED SOX, becuase their success pisses Yankees fans off to no end.

[dallasstars06]

I hate the Fagalanche more than any team in any sport... just above the Dead Wings

[ChargerChris]

Red Sox all the way baby!!! The problem with the Sox is that now all of a sudden "fans" are coming out of the woodwork. Prior to their win in '04 only the diehards really followed the team. Same thing with the Patriots and I guarantee it will be the same way with this years Celtics. All the bandwagoners make me sick. I remember going to Foxboro and it was EMPTY..now you can't buy a ticket to Gillette for the next ten seasons. Last year you could walk up to the FleetCenter and grab a ticket (Celtics were virtually giving them away)..this year the Celtics season sold out in fifteen minutes.

[Hardcore Legend]

One more thing, when you try to be the New York Yankees, you have to put up with the 'ex-player' curse, meaning...if a player once played for you and you kicked him to the curb, he's going to come back to bite you in a big moment:

Hello Trot Nixon.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Yankees = Evil Empire.

Red Sox = Evil Empire Jr.

:D

[Hardcore Legend]

Or you could just make Trot Nixon seem unimportant and go ahead and get your skulls beat in.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Is there anything more intimidating than facing Joe "Mr. October" Borowski in the playoffs? I'm pretty sure there isn't.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Is there anything more intimidating than facing Joe "Mr. October" Borowski in the playoffs? I'm pretty sure there isn't.

You just made my day :D

But on a serious note, a 7 run inning that late in the game isn't going to happen everyday. Just a freak thing happening really, the sox bullpen isn't going to be like that the entire playoffs and Borowski still let on 2 runners before it was all said and done.

[Captain]

I agree with the article, plus I feel articles like this should get some play since Bill Simmons gets columns and credited with "analysis" when it is usually his teams above others (putting emphasis on his teams' strengths and their oppenents/rivals' weaknesses). All I heard for years after 2000 was "the Yankees are trying to buy championships." Well, guess what? Other teams are just as guilty, teams like the Boston Red Sox. When will teams learn that big-spending is no guarantee to winning, it starts with drafting and the farm system. I wish I knew how many home-grown (which I define as: being drafted/signed, going through the minors, and debuting/playing for only your original team) players were on the World Series roster for the 2004 Red Sox compared to other teams the last few years. For so many years it was, "the Yankees just over-pay to get everybody," well, when does that become a bad thing for more than just one team. You can't be ticked off that the Yankees overpay to sign a Jason Giambi or Gary Sheffield but not bat an eye when a J.D. Drew or Julio Lugo or Gary Matthews Jr. get such huge paydays.

[Captain]

Is there anything more intimidating than facing Joe "Mr. October" Borowski in the playoffs? I'm pretty sure there isn't.

:D

Maybe facing Stephen Colbert on his own show if you are a Liberal or won an award he was up for :)

[dallasstars06]

Red Sox all the way baby!!! The problem with the Sox is that now all of a sudden "fans" are coming out of the woodwork. Prior to their win in '04 only the diehards really followed the team. Same thing with the Patriots and I guarantee it will be the same way with this years Celtics. All the bandwagoners make me sick. I remember going to Foxboro and it was EMPTY..now you can't buy a ticket to Gillette for the next ten seasons. Last year you could walk up to the FleetCenter and grab a ticket (Celtics were virtually giving them away)..this year the Celtics season sold out in fifteen minutes.

I promise you its worse in Dallas. We have the most fickle fans on the planet.