Series 21 Soriano.......WRONG!!!!!!!!

[rupy017]

I had to post this. While I'm happy that it seems that this figure might be able to be matched up with the Alou wall, I am very upset that TMP has him in a jersey he has never worn. The Cubs did away with the blue jerseys this past season. Don't cheap out. Make the pinstriped jersey. Nice pose though. Hopefully, the jersey can get re-done.

[cubsfan74]

They've got a while before it hits the shelves, so hopefully they can correct this before it goes into production.

[rupy017]

Don't like it either, but has the blue jersey been done away with forever? There is always a chance it comes back in 08.

I liked the blue jerseys, but I think they are done. Although, if Z has anything to say about it, they might be coming back. They wore those when he pitched in 06, and seeing how bad he was at times this year, maybe he'll request them back. Still think they should fix the figure. AND, it better fit with the Alou base or wall. I also wish since it's a fielding pose, that they would have gotten his little hop into it. I think it's kinda like his trademark.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Well if it makes you feel any better he did wear the jersey, it was just in the pre-season.

[rupy017]

Well if it makes you feel any better he did wear the jersey, it was just in the pre-season.

Actually, You're wrong! In ST they wore a blue jersey. NOT THAT ONE. The ST one has red and white on the sides under the arm area. The blue jersey in the figure is the blue ALT jersey from the last few years.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Actually, You're wrong! In ST they wore a blue jersey. NOT THAT ONE. The ST one has red and white on the sides under the arm area. The blue jersey in the figure is the blue ALT jersey from the last few years.

Well either way, I hope they change the figure to be more accurate.

[rupy017]

Well either way, I hope they change the figure to be more accurate.

Me too! I wasn't arguing. I just wanted to correct you. I know I use caps sometimes, but I wasn't arguing. They really should fix it, though.

[CGSPAWN]

I also like the blue, but I can understand why that might irk Cubs fans.

[cubsfan74]

I liked the blue jerseys, but I think they are done. Although, if Z has anything to say about it, they might be coming back. They wore those when he pitched in 06, and seeing how bad he was at times this year, maybe he'll request them back. Still think they should fix the figure. AND, it better fit with the Alou base or wall. I also wish since it's a fielding pose, that they would have gotten his little hop into it. I think it's kinda like his trademark.

Doesn't really fit with the Alou base unless you want Soriano to be in a world of hurt :p :D . He'd be way too close to the wall for the way he's tracking the ball.

One good thing is by not having him with the wall it leaves the potential for a chase.

[jomo3640]

I'm not all that concerned - It is a great looking figure and a couple years from now, no one will remember, and it will still be a great looking figure

Here's a pretty good reference pic of the play

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/tom_verducci/11/21/soriano/t1_soriano.jpg

http://www.spawn.com/toys/baseball/mlb21/asoriano3/images/mlb21_asoriano3_photo_01_dp.jpg

[rupy017]

One good thing is by not having him with the wall it leaves the potential for a chase.

It shouldn't have to be a chase. If they release one with the ivy, it should be a regular . How long have Cubs fans been asking for a Cubs player to go with that Alou wall? We finally get the perfect figure for that and TMP goes and ruins it.

DISGUSTING!!!!!!

[Chewdeezy]

I don't think the IVY wall will fit into the new packaging.

[Elias_Devil]

I've said this in other threads so I will say it here. A while back, a website leaked info about the Soriano chase being in a Nats jerseys. I can not vouch for the authenticity of the site's info, but remember me when you are hunting a National Soriano next spring ;)

[rupy017]

I don't think the IVY wall will fit into the new packaging.

I still think it needs the ivy covered wall.

[zurita54]

wrong shoes too. he now wears under armour

[cubsfan74]

It shouldn't have to be a chase. If they release one with the ivy, it should be a regular . How long have Cubs fans been asking for a Cubs player to go with that Alou wall? We finally get the perfect figure for that and TMP goes and ruins it.

DISGUSTING!!!!!!

I meant a chase without the Wrigley field wall. We've only had 2 chase figures, MLB 1 Sosa and MLB 6 Sosa. By not creating him with the Wrigley field wall, it gives them the flexibility to make him a chase figure in his away uni. However, someone on the other thread stated that it was leaked that a Nationals retro would be the chase?

Like I said - this figure would not go well with the Alou wall. He'd be running into the wall - doesn't make sense.

EDIT

I've said this in other threads so I will say it here. A while back, a website leaked info about the Soriano chase being in a Nats jerseys. I can not vouch for the authenticity of the site's info, but remember me when you are hunting a National Soriano next spring ;)

Ok - I guess I read your post.

[jonboyatmu]

Like I said - this figure would not go well with the Alou wall. He'd be running into the wall - doesn't make sense.




I don't think that is necessarily true. The angle of the figure looks as if he is running from right to left, meaning that placing it on the edge of the base with the ivy wall or abutting the two bases would give an effect of running parallell rather than perpedicular to (into) the wall.

[cubsfan74]

I don't think that is necessarily true. The angle of the figure looks as if he is running from right to left, meaning that placing it on the edge of the base with the ivy wall or abutting the two bases would give an effect of running parallell rather than perpedicular to (into) the wall.

Looking at the angle of his neck again, I agree that he wouldn't be running staight into the wall, but pairing him up with the Ivy still doesn't make sense even if you put the grass base up to the Alou base.

He would have to be running parallel to the wall meaning he went all the way back to the wall and then had to cut right because he totally misjudged it?

I think the only way this makes sense with the Ivy wall is if he's running at an angle towards it from right to left. But even then, I'd think you'd need to leave a lot more room for it to be realistic. Otherwise, he's just steps away from crashing into the wall.

[rupy017]

He would have to be running parallel to the wall meaning he went all the way back to the wall and then had to cut right because he totally misjudged it?



Isn't that what he did a few times anyway?

[cubsfan74]

Isn't that what he did a few times anyway?

I know his defense leaves something to be desired. I also can't say I saw every play during the season. But I can't remember a play where he totally misjudged a ball like that. I can remember plays where he misjudged the ball, but nothing to the extent that this would imply if he's running along the warning track.

Even if he did have a few plays like that - why would you want to recreate a totally misjudged fly ball?

[rupy017]

I don't know....to me, it looks like one of the fly balls he chased down the line. Almost, like he's chasing it to the other wall. Getting ready to leap into the stands.

[cubsfan74]

I don't know....to me, it looks like one of the fly balls he chased down the line. Almost, like he's chasing it to the other wall. Getting ready to leap into the stands.

Definitely looks like a play like Joe has a picture of above. My only point this whole time is that setting it up on or next to the Alou base just doesn't seem realistic to me. He'd be steps from crashing into the ivy/brick wall or running along the wall showing how bad of a defensive outfielder he can be :p

[EDBSIP]

are you guys really surprised with all the inaccuracy's?

[Trufinfan13]

are you guys really surprised with all the inaccuracy's?

lol seriously. They'll be lucky to have the right head on the player...

[cubsfan74]

lol seriously. They'll be lucky to have the right head on the player...

Like when they put Benito Santiago's head on Moises Alou's body :p

[ChargerChris]

Sorry about Soriano Cubs fans...

however I'm loving the Dice-K figure!!! GO SOX!!!

[jonboyatmu]

Looking at the angle of his neck again, I agree that he wouldn't be running staight into the wall, but pairing him up with the Ivy still doesn't make sense even if you put the grass base up to the Alou base.

He would have to be running parallel to the wall meaning he went all the way back to the wall and then had to cut right because he totally misjudged it?

I think the only way this makes sense with the Ivy wall is if he's running at an angle towards it from right to left. But even then, I'd think you'd need to leave a lot more room for it to be realistic. Otherwise, he's just steps away from crashing into the wall.

Again not entirely true. Two scenarios pop to mind. One would be that he was already playing a few steps from the track as is often done with the "no doubles" defense and he must move right to left on a ball. Two would be that he is playing at Wrigley. On windy days you would know as well as I would that you could be totally camped under a ball only to have it veer at the last second. All that aside, it doesn't appear that he is in a fullout sprint anyway, leaving open the possibility of a last second readjustment.

[cubsfan74]

Again not entirely true. Two scenarios pop to mind. One would be that he was already playing a few steps from the track as is often done with the "no doubles" defense and he must move right to left on a ball. Two would be that he is playing at Wrigley. On windy days you would know as well as I would that you could be totally camped under a ball only to have it veer at the last second. All that aside, it doesn't appear that he is in a fullout sprint anyway, leaving open the possibility of a last second readjustment.

I absolutely agree that all of those scenarios happen.

In my opinion, the scenarios you just described require too much thinking if I'm looking at this displayed loose. They are not the "typical" play you see on the field.

If I put that on display loose - first thing that would come to my mind is - why is he running/jogging along the warning track? Like you said - "no doubles" defense, swirling winds at Wrigley, etc. I would rather depict a more common play that immediately makes sense when I look at it. Just my opinion.

[AS251BR]

Here's a pretty good reference pic of the play

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/tom_verducci/11/21/soriano/t1_soriano.jpg

I think mine is better. :p

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/as251b/ASoriano.jpg



wrong shoes too. he now wears under armour

He's worn those shoes while with the Cubs, so they're not wrong.

[koreapeekay]

I think mine is better. :p

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/as251b/ASoriano.jpg





He's worn those shoes while with the Cubs, so they're not wrong.

That pic is dead on.

[Hardcore Legend]

I've seen the 2008 style guide. The Cubs WON'T be wearing the blue tops, unless the style guide was wrong.

[cubsfan74]

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/as251b/ASoriano.jpg

Ok - after seeing this pic and looking at the Moises Alou base - it does look like it matches the picture pretty well :o