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silversurfur65
12-07-2007, 04:00 PM
http://www.spawn.com/toys/series.aspx?series=386

MLabrosc02
12-07-2007, 04:03 PM
This is great!

Peter Hoffman
12-07-2007, 04:03 PM
Staal looks like 10 years too old.

Only Souray for me.

Poochiesdead
12-07-2007, 04:03 PM
I like them. Though Sundin's helmet looks huge.

bjk311nh
12-07-2007, 04:04 PM
Sweet! They didn't get the rights to Emery's mask. I'll get one to open.....although the pose is a little boring. I'll prolly end up with a set.

Peter Hoffman
12-07-2007, 04:04 PM
That Sundin head seems to have gotten progressively worse since it's first use.

trustno1
12-07-2007, 04:04 PM
Not bad. Like the Emery.:)

trustno1
12-07-2007, 04:05 PM
Don't remember Lafleur being THAT old when he played for the Nords.

Wardo30
12-07-2007, 04:05 PM
I'll take me a Sakic, Emery, and a Staal

Poochiesdead
12-07-2007, 04:07 PM
Sakic looks just like the Brett Hull pose.

craigjames
12-07-2007, 04:07 PM
http://www.spawn.com/toys/hockey/nhl18/ssouray/images/nhl18_ssouray_photo_03_dp.jpg

LOL. If I didn't feel sorry for Oilers fans before, I definitely feel sorry for them now. What a terrible, TERRIBLE looking pose. This is just as bad as the Jagr from the last NHL series, if not worse.


Hey Todd....

You might want to hire some Canadian sculpters who actually know how to hold a hockey stick!

avsfan21
12-07-2007, 04:09 PM
If I got a Staal it would be to burn.

Wardo30
12-07-2007, 04:09 PM
Sakic looks just like the Brett Hull pose.

true but it'll go nicely with my other Avs...nice to see an alternate shooting goalie pose..i will say these new SPs bring some interesting poses

Paul755
12-07-2007, 04:10 PM
wow....they can't even give Sakic an Original Pose...Great....

Can't we get an explination on why they chose Sakic over Stastny again?

Wardo30
12-07-2007, 04:10 PM
If I got a Staal it would be to burn.

that'd be a quick fire....

NotoriousVesaToskala
12-07-2007, 04:12 PM
LMAO, who winds up for a slapshot like that, looks like he's a figure skater.

Poochiesdead
12-07-2007, 04:13 PM
true but it'll go nicely with my other Avs...nice to see an alternate shooting goalie pose..i will say these new SPs bring some interesting posesOh I'm not complaining. I always thought it was one of the better poses and don't get how they reuse some lame poses a bunch of times and this is only the second time this one gets done. If we get Kovalchuk 2 it has to be in this pose.

BIg_ALEX
12-07-2007, 04:14 PM
does the sundin have hair? i dont think he played for Quebec without hair

Wardo30
12-07-2007, 04:15 PM
LMAO, who winds up for a slapshot like that, looks like he's a figure skater.

toepick???

Wardo30
12-07-2007, 04:16 PM
Oh I'm not complaining. I always thought it was one of the better poses and don't get how they reuse some lame poses a bunch of times and this is only the second time this one gets done. If we get Kovalchuk 2 it has to be in this pose.

I'd like to see the Hejduk pose used again

IceRat
12-07-2007, 04:19 PM
wow....they can't even give Sakic an Original Pose...Great....

Can't we get an explination on why they chose Sakic over Stastny again?
he's Canadian

Wardo30
12-07-2007, 04:20 PM
you forgot the eh

PrimeBane
12-07-2007, 04:20 PM
LOL. If I didn't feel sorry for Oilers fans before, I definitely feel sorry for them now. What a terrible, TERRIBLE looking pose. This is just as bad as the Jagr from the last NHL series, if not worse.


It's the same pose if you bothered to look.

Pose is fine... head sculpt is amazing. :)

JerseyDevil
12-07-2007, 04:20 PM
What the hell is Souray supposed to be doing? Terrible.

IceRat
12-07-2007, 04:21 PM
What the hell is Souray supposed to be doing? Terrible.
imitating Jagr

Wardo30
12-07-2007, 04:22 PM
What the hell is Souray supposed to be doing? Terrible.

playing the front nine Happy Gilmore style

SlayKnotV1
12-07-2007, 04:23 PM
Emery for me. I Hope that there's a Goalie Variant in NHL 17 & 18

Dominator39
12-07-2007, 04:23 PM
Does anyone else like the Emery mask with the Sens logo instead of the boxer?

Wardo30
12-07-2007, 04:23 PM
me too....

I kind of like the fake Tyson/Ali combo he has

craigjames
12-07-2007, 04:26 PM
I think the Sakic, Staal and Emery all look good. The sundin is okay... I will get it just to match my Nordiques collection.

I will definitely pass on that Souray though,

bjk311nh
12-07-2007, 04:27 PM
Does anyone else like the Emery mask with the Sens logo instead of the boxer?

YES, very much so. Now I'll get one to open.

Y2Jason99
12-07-2007, 04:34 PM
Well, Souray's face looks good. That pose is horrible, though.

I like the Sakic.

hockeyfightsguy
12-07-2007, 04:34 PM
Will they put the Pittsburgh patch on the Staal ?

fgl
12-07-2007, 04:36 PM
i like the lafleur.

IceRat
12-07-2007, 04:39 PM
Will they put the Pittsburgh patch on the Staal ?
the answer to that question is no

fgl
12-07-2007, 04:41 PM
just took another look at the sundin - gotta admit seeing the 75 patch makes me remember the height of my childhood card collecting days. i may just get that out of sentimental value. hehe.

brew
12-07-2007, 04:43 PM
isn't Sakic in the Gretzky 4 pose?

Poochiesdead
12-07-2007, 04:43 PM
just took another look at the sundin - gotta admit seeing the 75 patch makes me remember the height of my childhood card collecting days. i may just get that out of sentimental value. hehe.Yea I thought it was awesome they put that on the figure.

brew
12-07-2007, 04:46 PM
they're close, but I think like Roy2 and Salo, they're both different sculpts, if only slightly

http://www.spawn.com/toys/hockey/nhllegends2/wgretzky4/images/nhllegends2_wgretzky4_photo_03_dl.jpg

http://www.spawn.com/toys/hockey/nhl18/jsakic3/images/nhl18_jsakic3_photo_02_dp.jpg

AndyMatz
12-07-2007, 04:53 PM
If I werent an admitted SportsPick addict, I'd have no problem at all passing on Sundin and LaFleur.... I am sick of that overused retro uniform. Were that Nordiques THAT popular.. I'd imagine if they were, they'd still be a franchise... no disrespect intended .... Imagine if LaFleur was in a Ranger uniform...?? and Joe Sakic... geez... I have in how many times....3-4??? Who are these 3 supposed to appeal to?

IceRat
12-07-2007, 04:59 PM
they are "supposed" to appeal to Canadians (eh) who have fond memories of their franchise being taken from their country
this is, let me remind you, a Canadian line

LaFleur in a Rangers uniform would make about as much sense as Staal in a Pens uniform.... oh wait :p

avsfan21
12-07-2007, 04:59 PM
they're close, but I think like Roy2 and Salo, they're both different sculpts, if only slightly

Of course because there is no way they could use old pose for the awesomeness that is the Edge jerseys.

BigMOCats
12-07-2007, 05:01 PM
I'm wondering about packaging, will they all be the same or will LaFleur have Legends packaging?

Darkknight1984
12-07-2007, 05:06 PM
I think the Souray pose is pretty cool if set up properly, not for a slap shot but for hitting someone along the boards.

Thorondor 33
12-07-2007, 05:07 PM
Sheldon Souray- The pose (Jager repaint) is alright. He is brining the stick back to do a big blast. I really don't see what is wrong with it. When playing floor hockey, that is how I wind up for a slapper. It is a very "natural" pose.

Ray Emery- I am not at all an Emery fan, but that is one solid pose. I might get this figure for that reason.

Joe Sakic 3- I was hoping for a shooting Sakic, and thats what I got. It looks amazing.

Jordan Staal- Looks pretty cool, it will go good with Malkin.

Mats Sundin 2/3- Looks alright, but I never knew Sundin as a Nord so I don't know if I will get it.

Guy Lafleur- Looks ok, but he is still up in there along with Sundin 2/3.


From this series, I will get Souray, Sakic, and Staal. I might possibly get the others when I see them in person.

Stromgol
12-07-2007, 05:10 PM
he's Canadian

Stastny is Canadian too. He's born in Quebec city.

Y2Jason99
12-07-2007, 05:20 PM
Sheldon Souray- The pose (Jager repaint) is alright. He is brining the stick back to do a big blast. I really don't see what is wrong with it. When playing floor hockey, that is how I wind up for a slapper. It is a very "natural" pose.

You don't think his left hand should be further down the stick?

IceRat
12-07-2007, 05:21 PM
Stastny is Canadian too. He's born in Quebec city.
actually he has dual citizenship and he has played for Team USA in international play

avsfan21
12-07-2007, 05:24 PM
He is also a citizen of the Czech Republic as well if I am not mistaken.

IceRat
12-07-2007, 05:26 PM
ethnicity: Slovakian
born: Canada
raised/citizen: America

oilersRmylife
12-07-2007, 05:28 PM
They need to stretch out Sourays arms.
More like the Amonte pose.
Was this done so it could fit in the package??? If so, LOSE THE NEW PACKAGING!!!!!

avsfan21
12-07-2007, 05:29 PM
I knew his dad wanted him to play for the National team. I just couldnt remember if it was the Czechs or Slovaks. I guessed the wrong one.

starscream's ghost
12-07-2007, 05:35 PM
i am wildly unimpressed by the sakic3. just doesn't feel like sakic to me. and is it me, or does it look like they remolded the neck from sakic2 and slapped it on this one?

bigsexy_j
12-07-2007, 05:57 PM
Sakic is known more for the wrist shot, this pose looks to much like a slap shot follow through.

I still pick it up becasue it is Sakic and an Avs figure though.

Hockeyfan33
12-07-2007, 06:02 PM
I like the Sakic but am not to crazy about the rest.

MikeMack335
12-07-2007, 06:04 PM
Ill Def be getting Sakic, Emery, Sundin and Guy. The others I could care less about. Sakic is probably the best in the set IMO.

glove-save
12-07-2007, 06:12 PM
Well the Emery is definately a positive move forward, with a goalie handling the puck, and even without that net thingy looks good. I wish they would be able to get Mask liscensing approval for all goalie figs. Good job TMP I give it 4 1/2 stars

http://www.spawn.com/toys/hockey/nhl18/remery/images/nhl18_remery_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0711/nhl.goalie.masks/images/emery.jpg

http://www.spawn.com/toys/hockey/nhl18/remery/images/nhl18_remery_photo_02_dp.jpg

Thorondor 33
12-07-2007, 06:13 PM
They need to stretch out Sourays arms.
More like the Amonte pose.
Was this done so it could fit in the package??? If so, LOSE THE NEW PACKAGING!!!!!

This might seem sketchy but following with me here. He is coming to the Amonte pose. Souray's pose is like he is still brining the stick back, and within another few seconds he will have it all the way back. Then, it will be just like Amonte.

That is how I see it anyway.

Personally, I don't mind the pose. It isn't ground breaking, but by no means bad IMO.

WingNut 25
12-07-2007, 06:15 PM
I'm getting Sakic, Emery and Staal.

Thorondor 33
12-07-2007, 06:17 PM
Well the Emery is definately a positive move forward, with a goalie handling the puck, and even without that net thingy looks good. I wish they would be able to get Mask liscensing approval for all goalie figs. Good job TMP I give it 4 1/2 stars

http://www.spawn.com/toys/hockey/nhl18/remery/images/nhl18_remery_photo_01_dp.jpg



Hmmm, if I get him (which I probably will :o) I will flip the glove around, to make it look like he is getting ready to fire the puck away.

molhen
12-07-2007, 06:28 PM
crap!

The Jordan Staal...bad choice!

Looks like another lineup I am not interested in.

Can't please them all and am only happy there isn't a "leaf" in it(atleast the jersey)

sekshun
12-07-2007, 06:35 PM
LOVE the Emery ... AWESOME work on this one. http://board.spawn.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

starscream's ghost
12-07-2007, 06:36 PM
i like the emery pose except i think the glove hand should've been turned outwards. just the hand looks odd to me

Dominator39
12-07-2007, 06:50 PM
i like the emery pose except i think the glove hand should've been turned outwards. just the hand looks odd to me

I agree, maybe he's getting ready to play the puck backwards behind the net, instead of shoot it forwards... Overall it's a really sharp figure, the pads look awesome

Philly 5-0
12-07-2007, 06:53 PM
If I werent an admitted SportsPick addict, I'd have no problem at all passing on Sundin and LaFleur.... I am sick of that overused retro uniform. Were that Nordiques THAT popular.. I'd imagine if they were, they'd still be a franchise... no disrespect intended .... Imagine if LaFleur was in a Ranger uniform...?? and Joe Sakic... geez... I have in how many times....3-4??? Who are these 3 supposed to appeal to?
I like the nords jerseys as much as the next guy, but I think it is getting over used. We need some more northstars retro figs, they were the best jerseys ever, along with the old flyers jerseys. Can we get a jon casey fig....PLEASE.

oilersRmylife
12-07-2007, 07:03 PM
This might seem sketchy but following with me here. He is coming to the Amonte pose. Souray's pose is like he is still brining the stick back, and within another few seconds he will have it all the way back. Then, it will be just like Amonte.

That is how I see it anyway.

Personally, I don't mind the pose. It isn't ground breaking, but by no means bad IMO.


Ya know what...I can agree with that. It does still look awkward though.
Maybe they could put little "swoosh arrows" by his arms, pointing in the back swing position. :D:p:D
Something just bugs me about it.:(

Xar
12-07-2007, 07:07 PM
Part of NHL 19 lineup has just been announced!!!!!!!!!!

Joceyln Thiabult Nordiques figure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D :D

OttawaSens1
12-07-2007, 07:18 PM
To me i think on Souray gloves the numbers are upside down.

RoninJai
12-07-2007, 07:21 PM
it's funny...the Staal is the only fig that I AM interested in. The Emery is a nice looking fig too...just not sure if I have a need for him.

glove-save
12-07-2007, 07:37 PM
Thats the way Emery shoots the puck, catches left shoots left...Turco too lower hand backwards just watch sometime

rozy1991
12-07-2007, 08:01 PM
Thats the way Emery shoots the puck, catches left shoots left...Turco too lower hand backwards just watch sometime
You are right but I think the blocker hand should higher up on the stick.

rozy1991
12-07-2007, 08:10 PM
I like them. Though Sundin's helmet looks huge.
It should actualy be bigger. I'm pretty sure he wore one of those big Jofa buckets when he played for the Nords.

pimpinmidget
12-07-2007, 08:18 PM
http://www.spawn.com/toys/hockey/nhl18/remery/images/nhl18_remery_photo_03_dp.jpg


NICE!!

chemscab
12-07-2007, 08:24 PM
I can't wait to get the Staal!

PhillyWing19
12-07-2007, 08:24 PM
It should actualy be bigger. I'm pretty sure he wore one of those big Jofa buckets when he played for the Nords.

You are correct, sir!

Mats, like many European players, wore the JOFA 390 model that looked like an astronaut's helmet in the 1991/92 campaign.

Kind of a funky looking helmet, but easily the most comfortable helmet I personally have ever worn. Selanne switched back to one after the lockout -- must have been the reason he had those great 2 seasons!

SanchC
12-07-2007, 08:44 PM
Sakic 2 sucked, thanks to whoever went with the no-brainer shooting pose...anyone really care about a Nords Lafluer?

Noleman
12-07-2007, 08:54 PM
Emery is awesome!!! The rest are just okay but no real bad ones.

94Rangers
12-07-2007, 10:04 PM
I like the set overall although there's nothing that I must have. I didn't start collecting SP's until series 9 when I saw Leetch, and then I was extremely casual, so I still don't have a 6" Sakic in an Avs uni(TC, Nords, and the 3") so I'll be picking up that, Lafleur, Sundin, Emery, and Staal. I'll only be missing out on the Souray.

flyeaglesfly
12-07-2007, 10:25 PM
i truly hate how no goals are included in the goalie pieces anymore and i have stepped away from bying goalies for that reason so the only one i'm after is sakic and lafleur

chasefinder
12-07-2007, 10:30 PM
zactly


Emery for me. I Hope that there's a Goalie Variant in NHL 17 & 18

26stastny26
12-07-2007, 11:03 PM
Don't remember Lafleur being THAT old when he played for the Nords.

Actually, the figure should have waaaay less hair than it does. Also, while Lafleur was still with the Nords they didn't have the red striping around their numbers. Don't believe they started that till the 92-93 season.

26stastny26
12-07-2007, 11:07 PM
actually he has dual citizenship and he has played for Team USA in international play

That doesn't take away from him being born in Canada and therefore eligible for an all-Canadian series......

IceRat
12-07-2007, 11:09 PM
never said it did ... actually there is nothing prohibiting any player from being put into a Canadian series
I'd much rather see a stateside release

26stastny26
12-07-2007, 11:22 PM
never said it did ... actually there is nothing prohibiting any player from being put into a Canadian series
I'd much rather see a stateside release

As in just American players or just a series released in the U.S. like NHL18 in Canada?

IceRat
12-07-2007, 11:27 PM
no as in a series that ships to traditional retail in both the US and Canada as opposed to one that is targeted for Canadian retail and some specialty/online only in the US (NHL18)

26stastny26
12-07-2007, 11:29 PM
Well, in Chicago, I'd be happy to have a store that even carries any of them!!

mapleleafsfan15
12-07-2007, 11:29 PM
Just Sakic for me, the rest don't appeal that much at all.

IceRat
12-07-2007, 11:33 PM
Well, in Chicago, I'd be happy to have a store that even carries any of them!!
you are not along my brother

glove-save
12-07-2007, 11:37 PM
actually he has dual citizenship and he has played for Team USA in international play

Funny Father born in the previous Czeckoslavakia(SP), defected to Canada, played for Canada in a Canada Cup. Son born in Canada grew up in Quebec City/St.Louis/Denver. Took US citizenship.


Seems alot of Dual citizenship players opting for a guaranteed spot on Team USA JR's than having to compete for a spot on Team Canada JR's

IceRat
12-07-2007, 11:39 PM
I don't think paul would have shyed away from competing for a spot on Team Canada nor do I think he wouldn't have made it

IIRC he chose Team USA because the asked for his services

inverno-76
12-07-2007, 11:42 PM
Pass on The Flower and Sundin.

Souray - Buy(2) plus chase. Very nice.
Emery - Buy
Staal - Pass, but very nice.
Sakic - Pass.

PunkMC
12-08-2007, 01:41 AM
YAAAAAWWWWNN! Boring series. The Lafleur is cool and the 75 patch on the Sundin is a nice touch. That Souray is awful. And the rest I just couldn't care less about.

MapleLeafs20
12-08-2007, 06:44 AM
I realize i'm being picky here, but just one thing a noticed about emery:

Besides a generic Helmet,TMP seems to have used the RBK pad sculpt for use of the Emery, on Emery's pads, there isn't any skate strap being looped around the boot of the pad, in the fig there is, also, they got some painting on the glove wrong slightly:

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u191/Belfour_owns/emery1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u191/Belfour_owns/emery2.jpg

But overall a very nice figure, i'll definitly be picking up 1 or 2 :D

petenfld
12-08-2007, 08:47 AM
It should actualy be bigger. I'm pretty sure he wore one of those big Jofa buckets when he played for the Nords.

he wore the ccm aswell, but also wore a visor
but, unfortunately that was no the same year they wore the 75th anniversary jersey
so, as usual, the research department did not do their job
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/72558869.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB2085612FAB024E5FA40A659CEC4C8CB6
http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nhl/quebec/SundinQ.jpg

koreapeekay
12-08-2007, 08:49 AM
Best ones are Sakic,Staal and Emery in my opinion!

petenfld
12-08-2007, 08:58 AM
Iss Sakic3 a repaint of Kariya or just very close

Mats_44
12-08-2007, 09:54 AM
Hmm, ya that's a shame that they couldn't have at least slapped a visor onto Sundin's helmet to make it accurate to the year that he wore the 75th anniversary jersey. I don't think adding a visor would have required any extra sculpting, just a little glue.

Oh well, should we really be surprised?

Hardcore Legend
12-08-2007, 10:05 AM
Really digging that the Malkin figure will set up well looking like he is passing to Staal. Too bad the Crosby came in the white uni.

bjk311nh
12-08-2007, 10:17 AM
Really digging that the Malkin figure will set up well looking like he is passing to Staal. Too bad the Crosby came in the white uni.

You can't really set up the Crosby in "game play" with the other two anyways, so why does that matter? You also could spend an extra ten or fifteen bucks for the black jersey.

Y2Jason99
12-08-2007, 10:34 AM
Will the shaft of Souray's stick be painted to look like the way he tapes it?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/msmc/Sheldon/n806290332_1331827_7833.jpg

http://cdn.nhl.com/oilers/images/upload/2007/10/souray-front.jpg

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/77231963.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1931429C503D256B63F81FEDA994A46A679284831B75F48EF45

In white, easier to see:
http://media.canada.com/idl/mtgz/20070704/58134-18624.jpg

craigjames
12-08-2007, 10:53 AM
Seems alot of Dual citizenship players opting for a guaranteed spot on Team USA JR's than having to compete for a spot on Team Canada JR's

Seems like a lot of dual citizenship players prefer to play with the US team rather than win the championship with Canada :p :D

26stastny26
12-08-2007, 10:56 AM
Seems like a lot of dual citizenship players prefer to play with the US team rather than win the championship with Canada :p :D

As a U.S. citizen I still recognize the great players that Canada puts out along with their great international and olympic teams but when the "holier than thou" attitudes start sprouting up it's a total turnoff.

26stastny26
12-08-2007, 11:00 AM
he wore the ccm aswell, but also wore a visor
but, unfortunately that was no the same year they wore the 75th anniversary jersey
so, as usual, the research department did not do their job
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/72558869.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB2085612FAB024E5FA40A659CEC4C8CB6
http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nhl/quebec/SundinQ.jpg

Here's a couple pics they could have used for research... Big Jofa helmet, larger steroid Sundin and anniversary patch!!

One with shield...
http://www.geocities.com/sundinzno1fan/n10.jpg


One without....
http://www.geocities.com/sundinzno1fan/n1.jpg

Tugnut27
12-08-2007, 03:53 PM
You can't really set up the Crosby in "game play" with the other two anyways, so why does that matter? You also could spend an extra ten or fifteen bucks for the black jersey.

try setting crosby up with thorton ser 13 bet that would look cool.

Mats_44
12-08-2007, 03:57 PM
try setting crosby up with thorton ser 13 bet that would look cool.

Ya for sure I plan on doing that as well.

I bet it would look even cooler set up on the hockey rink display and with a referee about to drop the puck.

Can you say Collector's Club exclusive?? :eek:

The only issue would be the accuracy of the jerseys, with Thornton having the older style jerseys and Crosby with the new Reebok Edge. God I hate this Reebok garbage. Now anybody who likes to set up hockey scenes or hockey rink set ups has to start over from scratch if they want the jerseys to all match and be realistic. :mad:

CGSPAWN
12-08-2007, 04:05 PM
Kinda ****ty they made Emery in RBK pads. Still a cool line notheless.

Mats_44
12-08-2007, 04:21 PM
I realize i'm being picky here, but just one thing a noticed about emery:

Besides a generic Helmet,TMP seems to have used the RBK pad sculpt for use of the Emery, on Emery's pads, there isn't any skate strap being looped around the boot of the pad, in the fig there is, also, they got some painting on the glove wrong slightly.......


Kinda ****ty they made Emery in RBK pads. Still a cool line notheless.

How can you guys tell that these pads are a Reebok design sculpt??

If it is in fact true that they are Reebok design, it certainly would be interesting to hear Mark's explanation for why they would do Emery in Reebok pads sculpts and then just paint over them with Brian's logos. To be honest, I'm not even sure how they could legally do that?? You'd have to imagine that both the Reebok and Brian's companies would not be too pleased about that misrepresentation of their product.

I know Mark gets upset when we suggest that TMP takes "shortcuts" but that's what this would seem to be if they are in fact Reebok design. I'm guessing they are doing this because they know that if they sculpt him with Brian's pads they will never be able to re-use the pose again in the future since hardly any other goalie's use Brian's equipment. So basically brand new sculpts have to suffer from being inaccurate in order to accomodate the necessity for the flexibility of re-using poses. :mad:

KingSciarrillo
12-08-2007, 04:23 PM
hmm possibly Emery...that's about it

CGSPAWN
12-08-2007, 05:05 PM
How can you guys tell that these pads are a Reebok design sculpt??

If it is in fact true that they are Reebok design, it certainly would be interesting to hear Mark's explanation for why they would do Emery in Reebok pads sculpts and then just paint over them with Brian's logos. To be honest, I'm not even sure how they could legally do that?? You'd have to imagine that both the Reebok and Brian's companies would not be too pleased about that misrepresentation of their product.

I know Mark gets upset when we suggest that TMP takes "shortcuts" but that's what this would seem to be if they are in fact Reebok design. I'm guessing they are doing this because they know that if they sculpt him with Brian's pads they will never be able to re-use the pose again in the future since hardly any other goalie's use Brian's equipment. So basically brand new sculpts have to suffer from being inaccurate in order to accomodate the necessity for the flexibility of re-using poses. :mad:

My thoughts exactly. It is pretty clear that it is a RBK sculpt. I broke out my Huet and Luongo and found they are nearly identical to Emery. Brians pads are much different (better if you ask me). I didn't think that would be legal otherwise. I might be wrong...but I am pretty sure they are RBK pads...

My guess is that they used the RBK pads knowing that most goalies in the league wear them, making a quick repaint much easier. Now that they go by the new edge uni's they don't have many goalies to repaint. Just Huet and Emery for the time being.

Poochiesdead
12-08-2007, 05:08 PM
I don't know. After comparing pics it looks like they sculpted his pads right and just screwed up and put the extra strap on the bottom. Although I'm no goalie pad expert like some of you guys.

CGSPAWN
12-08-2007, 05:12 PM
The back of the pads are RBK style. Brians has less protection in the back.

human_anomaly
12-08-2007, 05:20 PM
http://www.spawn.com/toys/hockey/nhl18/remery/images/nhl18_remery_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://www.robbierussell.net/gaunt/emery2.jpg

http://www.robbierussell.net/gaunt/emery.jpg

human_anomaly
12-08-2007, 05:21 PM
only errors i notice are the paintjob on the inner pad and the strap on the bottom

edit: and the paintjob on the glove

PhillyWing19
12-08-2007, 07:02 PM
Now that they go by the new edge uni's they don't have many goalies to repaint. Just Huet and Emery for the time being.


You forgot the Ryan Miller new sculpt that is part of NHL17.

So as far as new Edge goalie sculpts it is Huet, Miller and Emery.

PhillyWing19
12-08-2007, 07:11 PM
Here's a couple pics they could have used for research... Big Jofa helmet, larger steroid Sundin and anniversary patch!!

One with shield...
http://www.geocities.com/sundinzno1fan/n10.jpg


One without....
http://www.geocities.com/sundinzno1fan/n1.jpg



The last pic -- the one with the JOFA helmet without the shield -- is actually from the 1992/1993 season. You can tell by the patch on the upper right corner of the jersey -- that season was the 100th Anniversary of The Stanley Cup, so there is a different patch there (the one of the illustrated figure hoisting The Cup), not the 75th Anniversary Season patch.

It appears he wore the JOFA with the visor in 1991/92, the season that this figure represents, and without it in 1992/1993 and then switched over to the CCM lid sometime after that season.

Though I did not expect a JOFA helmet to be part of this sculpt, I agree that the CCM lid not being in synch with the 75th patch is irksome. To my knowledge, the only figure TMP has sculpted with that exact JOFA helmet is the NHLPA and Series2 Jagr figure, and since his head is so much smaller than the NHL9 Sundin head, I am going to assume that it would not fit on this figure. It'll be worth trying though -- any of the outstanding hockey customizers out there up to the challenge? :)

Kudos to TMP at least for adding the 75th Patch, and as an old-school gearhead, I was also psyched to see the TACKLA logo on his pants. Nice touch -- thank you. I bought a pair of TACKLA pants around then and absolutely loved them for their comfort and protection, so it is particularly nice touch to me. Is TACKLA still around or are they part of one of the larger conglomerates these days?

Redux
12-08-2007, 07:50 PM
In addition to what others have pointed out about the Emery paint job, it should also be noted that his pants are missing the vertical white stripe.

CGSPAWN
12-08-2007, 07:51 PM
In addition to what others have pointed out about the Emery paint job, it should also be noted that his pants are missing the vertical white stripe.

Good eye.

Even with these problems I think it's a nice figure.

Tugnut27
12-08-2007, 08:13 PM
Ya for sure I plan on doing that as well.

I bet it would look even cooler set up on the hockey rink display and with a referee about to drop the puck.

Can you say Collector's Club exclusive?? :eek:

The only issue would be the accuracy of the jerseys, with Thornton having the older style jerseys and Crosby with the new Reebok Edge. God I hate this Reebok garbage. Now anybody who likes to set up hockey scenes or hockey rink set ups has to start over from scratch if they want the jerseys to all match and be realistic. :mad:

I new u would say that about the jerseys Mats but o well.

blazinblair
12-08-2007, 09:00 PM
I am not a fan of the new Sundin figure at all. Everything else looks good in my opinion though.

Y2Jason99
12-09-2007, 01:28 PM
In addition to what others have pointed out about the Emery paint job, it should also be noted that his pants are missing the vertical white stripe.

Ooh, good catch! Didn't even notice that.

JerseyDevil
12-09-2007, 01:52 PM
I love the Nords sweaters. Retros are by far the best in NHL lines!

TRDouble
12-09-2007, 03:04 PM
I already pre-ordered Staal and Emery; no reason to change that order. Sakic... AGAIN!... but I might still get him and scumb to the NHL's new uniform marketing scheme (I am avoiding the real RBK Edge jerseys, but not the toy sculpted of mini-jersey versions :p ). Seeing the Nords LeFleur makes me want to finally get the NHL Legends 5 Canadians version; I still have none of those. Nope on Sundin as well. I know this is a Canadian series, but I'd like to see a few more regular released (aka easy to get) retros in USA-series too, like the upcoming Canucks Linden. A North Stars Ciccerelli could fill the slot of defunct NHL teams.

Dominator39
12-09-2007, 07:25 PM
When does NHL 18 come out. It said May on the 2008 relase page, but on the NHL 18 page it says February. Did they move it up?

Elias_Devil
12-09-2007, 07:28 PM
When does NHL 18 come out. It said May on the 2008 relase page, but on the NHL 18 page it says February. Did they move it up?

NHL 17 isn't out yet, so I would say May.

mapleleafsfan15
12-10-2007, 03:14 PM
Is the Malkin sculpt the same as the wrist shot Sakic, Kariya etc.?

MapleLeafs20
12-10-2007, 03:22 PM
The problem with Emery, is that the back of the pads of an RBK sculpt, and the skate strap is looped through the boot of the pads, on Emerys real equipment it's stiched on.

Also, Emery got a slightly different desgn on his pads this year, (red outlines the gold) last year Rayzer didn't have that. (same deal with the glove) TMP just used the same design of last years equipment (except sculpt which is wrong) with the New Ottawa Jersey design of this year.

PhillyWing19
12-10-2007, 04:17 PM
Is the Malkin sculpt the same as the wrist shot Sakic, Kariya etc.?

No, the Malkin sculpt is a brand new pose. All of the following comes from Mark's previous posts on the topic:

All poses starting with NHL16 are purported to be new so as to reflect the changes that the new RBK Edge uniform system has.

4 out of the 6 poses in NHL17 (including Malkin's) support this claim.

However, since 4 figure lineups don't seem to be very popular, Todd started inserting retro repaints into the series that had been announced to bump them up to 6 player lineups, hence the inclusion of the Linden (in retro Canucks "skate" uni) and Sakic blue Nordiques in NHL17 as well -- those are previously used poses painted in previous unis, and not reflective of new Edge jersey designs (obviously, sine the Edge system was not around in the 90s when the figures's sculpts are based off).

In NHL18, the 2 retro repaints added are a Nordiques Blue Sundin (his NHL9 pose) and Nords White Lafleur (his only pose from the recent Legends5 line). The other 4 figures are new Edge-uniform based sculpts. Souray's pose is the Jagr one from NHL16, for example. Staal's, Emery's and Sakic's Avalanche one are all new poses according to TMP.

The big curveball where none of this basically applies is the Hossa Atlanta All Star Exclusive figure. It is an old sculpt painted to reflect the new Thrashers Edge jersey design. Mark stated that this was an exception that the NHL/RBK would approve and not to assume that it will be a trend.

Hope that brings clarity.

PhillyWing19
12-10-2007, 04:18 PM
Is the Malkin sculpt the same as the wrist shot Sakic, Kariya etc.?

Zetterberg from NHL14 was also done in this wrist shot pose as well.

SuPaFly10
12-10-2007, 06:09 PM
Very excited to hear about the Lafleur Nords figure...but as was alluded to earlier, he definitely needed a new head sculpt.. he was much older and had much less hair when he played for the Rangers & Nords.... and I don't think the Nords had switched to their 2 colour numbers (red outline) until after he retired the 2nd time.....

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1158320.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939057D9939C83F1065D448AC0F7717CA05A5397277B4DC33E

26stastny26
12-10-2007, 06:23 PM
Actually, the figure should have waaaay less hair than it does. Also, while Lafleur was still with the Nords they didn't have the red striping around their numbers. Don't believe they started that till the 92-93 season.

Very excited to hear about the Lafleur Nords figure...but as was alluded to earlier, he definitely needed a new head sculpt.. he was much older and had much less hair when he played for the Rangers & Nords.... and I don't think the Nords had switched to their 2 colour numbers (red outline) until after he retired the 2nd time.....


;)

SuPaFly10
12-10-2007, 06:38 PM
;)

Saw that.. just got lazy with the quoting :) Thanks buddy....

hokiemon
12-10-2007, 07:22 PM
no interest whatsoever in this series....nothing but filler IMO.

Mirko Cro Cop
12-11-2007, 03:51 AM
the souray looks like penner