Will Mitchell report end steriods speculation?

[Kramer26]

Just look at Jeff Bagwell. I would say that many suspected that he was taking some sort of performance enhancing drug. Does this clear his name from speculation because he was not in the Mitchell report?

[Captain]

No, I don't think the report will end speculation on steroid use, nor does it clear any player who is not on the list. The "facts" in the report are not air-tight, so the report pretty much speculates about most of the players (while checks, e-mails, notes, etc. lend more credibility to an accusation, they can not definitively prove it either). Plus I think Mitchell mentioned that there were many more users in the game not included in his report.

As another poster said earlier today, the report is just "the tip of the iceberg" when it comes to steroids in baseball. Hopefully there is more concrete information in the future that is more reliable (and confirmable) than this report.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Who cares anymore? Seriously.

[scasselin]

Who cares anymore? Seriously.

Agreed, anytime any baseball player does something historic or has a monster season I automatically think "he's on roids"
That was my first thought when A-Rod had a big season last year. Before I get bashed, I'm not saying A-Rod used performance enhancing drugs, its just that so many players have been linked to them and seems that a lot of MVP's and record holders are being named as users it makes me the casual fan not want to watch baseball anymore because you don't now if your actually watching a player with natural talent or injected talent.

[jumpman1144]

I could write my own 300 page report on baseball. However, you have to admit that today's athlete trains year round A-rod goes to Miami and works out daily non-stop maybe he take a week here or there to visit the world but I know he is one hard working SOB and this is coming from a red sox fan. But I think A-rod works hard for what he has. If I am wrong who cares selig ruined baseball anyway.

[zurita54]

These were only the stupid ones to use personal checks or money orders to pay for the products and also the dumb ones that used their home address or work address with their name.

[DJBurnside]

It was basically a list of guys who got thier stuff from one specific supplier. No telling how many other guys were supplying to other major leaguers. Like one writer said on ESPN.com. 60-80 names is about 1% of the total number of players in the majors during the time period they looked at. There were more than 1% of MLB players using steroids, HGH, etc. The Mitchell Report is a SMALL sample of players who were/are cheating.

[SacKingsFan]

For past players, no, but if MLB uses it as a launching point to implement complete, stringent testing, then I think it will help the future of the game. There will always be the latest, greatest drug (HGH, etc), but as long as you are testing for known substances, it makes the cheaters have to stay ahead of the game. By not testing for known substances you are fooling yourself. I think the biggest reason there were so many PED users was cause it was so easy. There were no tests, it was like the honor system. "Steroids are illegal and against the rules, but we aren't going to test for it, so just do not do it. OK?"

[Captain]

It was basically a list of guys who got thier stuff from one specific supplier. No telling how many other guys were supplying to other major leaguers. Like one writer said on ESPN.com. 60-80 names is about 1% of the total number of players in the majors during the time period they looked at. There were more than 1% of MLB players using steroids, HGH, etc. The Mitchell Report is a SMALL sample of players who were/are cheating.

QFT

[Hardcore Legend]

This will go on forever. For as much as Selig wanted to put a final chapter in this story, all this has done is open up a can of worms. You'll have newspapers digging through players financial records, demands that Selig hold another investigation into further developments, etc.

No player that has played from 1974 until now is clean. Let's just leave it at that.

[Captain]

I agree, Hardcore, this will go on for a very long time with many, many players under suspicion.

[Spawnomite]

I'm happy that Jeff Bagwell is not on that list. He was one of my fav players.

[Donnellk13]

I'm happy that Jeff Bagwell is not on that list. He was one of my fav players.

Just because hes not on the list doesn't mean he didn't use it

[shawnspookcity]

Just look at Jeff Bagwell. I would say that many suspected that he was taking some sort of performance enhancing drug. Does this clear his name from speculation because he was not in the Mitchell report?
Not even close. The Mitchell report wasn't a list of every player that used steroids (cough sosa cough), but rather an investigation to see how wide-spread it was and how to solve the problem. Mitchell's report said that 5-7% of big leaguers use performance enhancers. He didn't uncover a fraction of that amount. So there are a lot of people who do use and just haven't been outed.

[Spawnomite]

Just because hes not on the list doesn't mean he didn't use itthat could be true. I'm just glad he's not on the list. ;)

[shawnspookcity]

Actually, the 5-7% was from an anonymous drug test they ran, that they announced ahead of time, and still 5-7% were caught doping... No telling how many cycled it out of their system, or didnt get caught because of HGH use, etc. I mean, why announce it unless you want to influence the results right? 5-7% is just their PR spin if anything.

Try 47%.
Possibly. I was just saying what I could hear from the internet feed of the press conference. It was lagging so badly that I would hear 4 seconds, miss 2 seconds, hear 3 seconds, miss a second.

[Spawnomite]

they just need to do mandatory testing on every player once a year.

[shawnspookcity]

and for the record, Bagwell was totally on the juice. I'm even more positive about Bagwell than I am Sosa and I know Sosa did it.

[shawnspookcity]

they just need to do mandatory testing on every player once a year.
Twice a season and once off-season and do it the way the olympics do it. You can't slip anything by them anymore.

[Spawnomite]

and for the record, Bagwell was totally on the juice. I'm even more positive about Bagwell than I am Sosa and I know Sosa did it.where's the evidence against Bagwell?

[BurningSoul]

Whats drug testing gonna do if everyone is taking HGH?

[Point65]

How do we know this is the end-all report on this subject? There could be more widespread usage than we know or heard about. Not all of the suspended minor leaguers are in that report. How do we know more major leaguers aren't involved somehow?

One thing this brings up is was Rafael Palmeiro telling the truth when he implicated Tejada when he thought he accidentally took it in Baltimore. He recalled that was the only time he took anything. Tejada denied it, pretty much ensuring Palmeiro was gone, shamefully distrusted. This could be one of the stories of a reputation undeservedly disgraced.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Store the samples until the HGH can be detected.

I thought they can tell through blood testing but not urine?