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LeftHighKick
02-20-2008, 05:00 PM
Yesterday on dumb and dumber, the skinny more annoying one who keeps his lips pressed to the microphone almost made a good point.

He stated how steroids are bad, evil, and we must protect the innocent children from them, etc, but made a point about how all the massive wrestlers from the 80's and 90's were dead.

Good point, but they failed to go further into it. The vast majority of wrestlers used steroids, yes, but many of them abused cocaine and alcohol. It was the combination of cocaine and steroids that lead to the heart issues that killed many of the wrestlers.

Look at bodybuilders from those same times:

Arnold: Alive
Lou Ferigno: Alive
Lee Hanley: Living
Franco Columbu: Walking

and just about every big name bodybuilder from the 60's to today are alive and relatively healthy compared to many of the wrestlers who are either dead or look like they are going to die any second. They had no problem doing a Pumping Iron reunion. But go through and watch any Wrestlemania. You can have a drinking game just by spotting all the deceased wrestlers due to drugs. Especially when you consider that the bodybuilders of the 60's and 70's were human guinea pigs for performance enhancing drugs. There was no set standard, they made it up as they went along, and used themselves as test subjects for trial and error. It is amazing that they are alive today. Yet professional wrestlers abuse steroids, prescription drugs, alcohol and cocaine and drop dead but the finger is solely pointed to steroids.

Personally, I don't think steroids should be allowed in pro-sports, but at the same time, I think that under doctor supervision and when properly dosed and taken, steroids are not as bad and evil as the media wants to make it out to be.

Congress wants to go after Baseball? How come WWE and Weider backed bodybuilding get a pass when they are the biggest violators and WWE has a higher deathrate than most other sports combined?

Elias_Devil
02-20-2008, 05:01 PM
Yesterday on dumb and dumber, the skinny more annoying one who keeps his lips pressed to the microphone almost made a good point.

He stated how steroids are bad, evil, and we must protect the innocent children from them, etc, but made a point about how all the massive wrestlers from the 80's and 90's were dead.

Good point, but they failed to go further into it. The vast majority of wrestlers used steroids, yes, but many of them abused cocaine and alcohol. It was the combination of cocaine and steroids that lead to the heart issues that killed many of the wrestlers.

Look at bodybuilders from those same times:

Arnold: Alive
Lou Ferigno: Alive
Lee Hanley: Living
Franco Columbu: Walking

and just about every big name bodybuilder from the 60's to today are alive and relatively healthy compared to many of the wrestlers who are either dead or look like they are going to die any second. They had no problem doing a Pumping Iron reunion. But go through and watch any Wrestlemania. You can have a drinking game just by spotting all the deceased wrestlers due to drugs. Especially when you consider that the bodybuilders of the 60's and 70's were human guinea pigs for performance enhancing drugs. There was no set standard, they made it up as they went along, and used themselves as test subjects for trial and error. It is amazing that they are alive today. Yet professional wrestlers abuse steroids, prescription drugs, alcohol and cocaine and drop dead but the finger is solely pointed to steroids.

Personally, I don't think steroids should be allowed in pro-sports, but at the same time, I think that under doctor supervision and when properly dosed and taken, steroids are not as bad and evil as the media wants to make it out to be.

Congress wants to go after Baseball? How come WWE and Weider backed bodybuilding get a pass when they are the biggest violators and WWE has a higher deathrate than most other sports combined?

Great point, but I think the fat one is more annoying. ;)

LeftHighKick
02-20-2008, 05:06 PM
I use to think that, but slim Mike plays into too many ethnic stereotypes which makes it so much easier to find him more annoying.

EDBSIP
02-20-2008, 07:28 PM
I listen the them every morning on the way to work, and agreed the skinnier Mike is annoying as hell

Durstlimpbizkit
02-20-2008, 07:35 PM
Is it just me or are we all becoming haters of ESPN?

Elias_Devil
02-20-2008, 07:36 PM
Is it just me or are we all becoming haters of ESPN?

Well, it's been trash lately.

Durstlimpbizkit
02-20-2008, 07:39 PM
Well, it's been trash lately.

What my colleague here is trying to say is that lately = the past 5 years.

LeftHighKick
02-20-2008, 07:41 PM
ESPN became trash when they became more concerned about turning broadcasters into personalities and celebrities instead of delivering the sporting news.

If you were oblivious to that, then "Who's Now" should have been a slap in the face.


Back to the original post, any comments on my thoughts about wrestling and body building?

lespaul59
02-20-2008, 07:41 PM
I watch these guys every morning and sometimes I just turn it. There has been a few time that they could have fleshed a topic out futher but stop short.

starscream's ghost
02-20-2008, 10:06 PM
wrestling has such a higher death rate because of the physical toll on the wrestler's bodies. combine that with ALL the crap they put in their bodies drug-wise and that's a deadly combo. that's part of the reason sometimes guys like al snow tell young wannabe wrestlers to not go into the business

jwtragic
02-20-2008, 11:01 PM
wrestling has such a higher death rate because of the physical toll on the wrestler's bodies. combine that with ALL the crap they put in their bodies drug-wise and that's a deadly combo. that's part of the reason sometimes guys like al snow tell young wannabe wrestlers to not go into the business

Exactly. Between the mixtures of steroids/HGH's, pain pills and alcohol, those wrestlers were mixing a ****tail more dangerous than molotovs.

worldsfinest
02-21-2008, 02:14 AM
I think the WWE gets the pass cause people still have the thought in there heads that wrestling isn't a sport.