Mariano Rivera photos are up!

[Ben Vance]

MARIANO RIVERA COLLECTOR'S EDITION (http://www.spawn.com/toys/product.aspx?product=3535)
http://www.spawn.com/toys/baseball/other/mrivera-ce/images/other_mrivera-ce_photo_01_lg.jpg (http://www.spawn.com/toys/product.aspx?product=3535)

Let us know what you think!

[Elias_Devil]

first

[Hardcore Legend]

So are we to assume it will be the full wall and door this time? Cause the wording makes it seem like there is still room for TMP to back out again.

And, frankly, that's a lame CE.

[quiggle]

I will not be purchasing this, sorry.

[jlangendorf]

Waste of plastic.

[Spawnomite]

I'll pass.

[AS251BR]

Can't wait to add this to my collection.

[quiggle]

I already mentioned this in the other thread some idiot started, but there's some inaccuracy in the bottom of the cap bill as it should be black not grey.

hopefully this is just on the proto and not on the final figures because it would mean that two Yankees figures have errors in this yea'rs line, along with the patches on Wang.

[AS251BR]

hopefully this is just on the proto and not on the final figures because it would mean that two Yankees figures have had errors in this years line, along with the patches on Wang.

That can't be true because I'm always reading on here the TMP doesn't make any errors on Yankee figures. People are always saying, "If it was a Yankee figure, it'd be correct!" So, you sir, are a liar.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Can't wait to add this to my collection.

Ditto.

[quiggle]

That can't be true because I'm always reading on here the TMP doesn't make any errors on Yankee figures. People are always saying, "If it was a Yankee figure, it'd be correct!" So, you sir, are a liar.


I'm still iffy about the lack of shinguard on Posada batting but will let that one pass

[AndyMatz]

This is just a big version of what we have, right? I'm not sure what the big deal is over this?

[quiggle]

what do you mean big Andy, like in 12"?

[AS251BR]

This is just a big version of what we have, right? I'm not sure what the big deal is over this?

Mostly because the majority of collectors that want the full bullpen probably don't own it yet.

[EDBSIP]

I'll pass as well

[quiggle]

too bad they don't have a full bullpen without that advertisement in the back

[KingRizza]

Are the patches the only difference than this figure and the chase of the previous release?

[AS251BR]

Are the patches the only difference than this figure and the chase of the previous release?

Yes. And the packaging.

[Zildjian]

Honestly, what was the point of this figure? This is what KILLED SLUs..... TMP listen to the collectors. New innovative poses, not just rehashes is what will drive this line, and if you still think the "casual" collector is what will drive this line, please wake up. Most casual collectors can't find these figures because only one store carries them in their area.

[LeftHighKick]

Cool. I'd rather buy this with the patches, than pay $30 for the chase on eBay

[Mark Weber]

Honestly, what was the point of this figure? This is what KILLED SLUs..... TMP listen to the collectors. New innovative poses, not just rehashes is what will drive this line, and if you still think the "casual" collector is what will drive this line, please wake up. Most casual collectors can't find these figures because only one store carries them in their area.

And to think, a year ago people were clamoring for us to make the full bullpen wall available some way, ANY way...

[Elias_Devil]

And to think, a year ago people were clamoring for us to make the full bullpen wall available some way, ANY way...

There you go...

[AS251BR]

Honestly, what was the point of this figure?

TMP originally wanted to release this as a regular figure. They showed the pictures but then found out they couldn't get it done cost-wise. They cut the wall in half and people were upset. They released it as a chase but there were still many people who wanted a full bullpen. Weber said that they were going to some how make the full bullpen available to everybody later down the road. TMP comes through with that promise and they still get critizied.

[AS251BR]

Coulda just sold the wall in parts.

It's probably cheaper for the customer to buy the Collector's Edition than to buy the regular figure and the extra wall parts with shipping.

[GMLBFan]

Thanks! I'll be ordering one.

[gretzky999]

i have every yankee figure..but for 2 patches on his arms ill pass on this one

[TheFigureFanatic]

And to think, a year ago people were clamoring for us to make the full bullpen wall available some way, ANY way...
But the same exact figure you produced a year ago? I don't get it.

[petenfld]

TMP originally wanted to release this as a regular figure. They showed the pictures but then found out they couldn't get it done cost-wise. They cut the wall in half and people were upset. They released it as a chase but there were still many people who wanted a full bullpen. Weber said that they were going to some how make the full bullpen available to everybody later down the road. TMP comes through with that promise and they still get critizied.

So, what is the difference between the CE edition and the chase?
If they are the same would that not devalue the chase which they said they would never do?

[molhen]

they really missed the ball on this....I hate baseball but if all I was getting was extra wall then I would pass as well.

Are you guys going to add the net to ANY(hears a dream) goalie CC and charge more for it??

Only figure I have bought is the miller in the last 3 series(R.Nash series) and the Bailey since the Tiki Barber series. have had some given in between but if this is the way TMP is moving then likely going to look onward to another option.....upper deck coming out with something soon.

a rant and am not sorry for it.

[AS251BR]

So, what is the difference between the CE edition and the chase?
If they are the same would that not devalue the chase which they said they would never do?

There are patches added and the packaging will be different. I think what they meant by that was releasing the same exact figure. Like if they had made Pettitte's figure from last year in the grey uniform. They've done things like this before with the Babe Ruth sepia figure. The chase's sock didn't get the sepia treatment. The collector's edition was kind of a corrected piece. And again, this is what the original was suppose to be. It wasn't a planned chase. TMP is making up to those who were looking foward to getting this as a regular figure. So, it's kind of under different circumstances.

[AS251BR]

they really missed the ball on this....I hate baseball but if all I was getting was extra wall then I would pass as well.

No, all I'm getting is the entire figure since I didn't get the regular or the chase because they said early on they were going to do something about releasing the original shown figure.

[Jason62]

No, all I'm getting is the entire figure since I didn't get the regular or the chase because they said early on they were going to do something about releasing the original shown figure.

same here I think everyone is mad cause they paid out the ass for their chase version. I'd rather have the patches commemorating the last season, it adds to the peice.

[SharpyDave]

I specifically did not get the chase version because there were hints that the full wall version would be available via CE. I'll be buying it now.

[Fitz13]

And to think, a year ago people were clamoring for us to make the full bullpen wall available some way, ANY way...


But it was made Mark. I am a huge Yankee fan and a little let down that the patches are the only difference.

[Mark Weber]

But the same exact figure you produced a year ago? I don't get it.

I'm not spinning that someone with the MLB 18 Rivera chase should feel the need to run out and get this Collector's Edition. It's being made readily available for people who couldn't find/didn't buy the chase figure last year, and to casual collectors who might not have seen even the regular figure at all last year.

[Mark Weber]

So, what is the difference between the CE edition and the chase?
If they are the same would that not devalue the chase which they said they would never do?

Who are "they" and when did "they" say that? Todd tries not to re-release chase versions, but in some boxed sets it has been done before. Todd wanted to release this item to make good on the original photos we showed last year before the price hike forced the full bullpen wall out of the MLB 18 series (except in the chase version, where he accepted the price hit).

[Mark Weber]

same here I think everyone is mad cause they paid out the ass for their chase version. I'd rather have the patches commemorating the last season, it adds to the peice.

We were pretty clear that we were trying to find a way to release the full wall version to mass later on last year. If someone chose to "pay out the ass" for it last year, it wasn't like they were given false info.

[slupie5]

you tell them mark! good for TMP to stick to their word and release this piece so everyone will have the chance to own this. IMO i think this is one of the best baseball peices in a while, Very unique and cool to display

[Hockeymask]

I bought the chase figure and am not happy about this! TMP, how about making the CC 12" Roy with a new patch so I can get one?

[fowee]

passing....You need to change more than a patch for my money. You guys ran completionists out of the hobby and grew yourself an ever growing hole.

Jason

[Fitz13]

The more I think of it, what would have been great is a 12" version of this. Now that would be an incredible piece to display.

[quiggle]

I hope this version has updated specifications that are embroidered onto his glove

[ogrjmj]

i also have 2 of the chase figure, im a little torn on this one,.i was happy they were releasing this so i could buy one to open but was hoping for a little more variation in the figure to differentiate it from the chase. still cant wait to get one to open!

[26WS1]

I own the full bullpen, and the way it's constructed is very disapointing:(. The door hangs really poorly. Hopefully you guys have perfected it, but I too will pass on this one.

[quiggle]

is your Rivera also a leaner with the full bullpen?

[26WS1]

is your Rivera also a leaner with the full bullpen?

YUP!!

[quiggle]

what about the 3" version of this, does that also lean?

[SharpyDave]

The more I think of it, what would have been great is a 12" version of this. Now that would be an incredible piece to display.exactly

[AS251BR]

I bought the chase figure and am not happy about this! TMP, how about making the CC 12" Roy with a new patch so I can get one?

TMP made it clear that they were going to release it well before the original was released. That's why I didn't bother getting the regular.

passing....You need to change more than a patch for my money. You guys ran completionists out of the hobby and grew yourself an ever growing hole.

Jason

Completists are not TMP's main customer, I doubt they're even 5% of their business. And this is coming from somebdoy who was once a completist.

[nhstunner]

Mark, I appreciate you "towing the company line" but bear with me for just a moment. When this figure was announced with the full bullpen (Hereout known as the fullpen) everyone loved it. That is, until it was pulled out from underneath us & NOT offered as a exclusive, but a CHASE that could drum up the secondary "hype" TMP loves so much. Now, a YEAR later, it will be available as a exclusive to suck in the "casual" collector (whom TMP covets more than the hardcore collector, that would be us) & hopes to get all the diehard Yankee fans. So, as anyone with logic can see, hardcore fans feel they got shafted. (I scored the chase @ retail, so you guys can keep it)

[Cardinal]

It's probably cheaper for the customer to buy the Collector's Edition than to buy the regular figure and the extra wall parts with shipping.

What about those who already bought the regular and only need the wall? Now we have to buy two? Pass.

[fowee]

Completionists are good for the hobby. I too used to be one and would purchase one of everything in the mainline, but TMP made it too difficult to continue. Competionists bought 1 of everything, even though it may have not been a figure they had to have. They helped sell through and kept product moving at retailers. I am not saying they are TMP's main customer, but they WERE some of the most loyal customers. Losing your biggest supporters is not a good thing any way you slice it.

[quiggle]

won't the casual collector who's already purchased Series 18 take a look at this and ask themselves don't I already have this? They might not even care about the additional patches because it's so minor and small, overlooked aspect.

[Yankeebombers]

I was not as lucky as others to get the Mariano Full Bullpen chase so I am very excited about finally getting this figure. I appreciate the fact that McFarlane is: 1) actually offering this figure to those who could not track down the chase figure and 2) updated the figure by adding the All-Star and Yankee Stadium patches. I will DEFINITELY be buying this figure!

[Elias_Devil]

i also have 2 of the chase figure, im a little torn on this one,.i was happy they were releasing this so i could buy one to open but was hoping for a little more variation in the figure to differentiate it from the chase. still cant wait to get one to open!

Exactly my situation.

[ASTROS FAN]

It looks like a good pickup.

[RipkenFan8]

Considering I don't have the original Figure....I will probably snag one or two :p

[bearoh]

If you don't like it, don't buy it.. this is a toy. not an investment. Personally, I want TMP re issue all those over $30 figures selling on Ebay.

[RinginBoston08]

i thought this Riveria was already out.... any help

[quiggle]

they'll probably pull something like this again in the near future with some other player

[cniles]

The more I think of it, what would have been great is a 12" version of this. Now that would be an incredible piece to display.

Now we are talking:D

[AS251BR]

Alright, this is probably going to be the last thing I say about this subject because I fell like I'm just repeating myself...

So, TMP showed us "hardcore" collectors a piece but had to make an unpopular change due to cost. They now make the piece available to us "hardcore" collectors at a reasonable price. And everybody blast them for it. And keep in mind they announced that something like this was going to happen before the original figure was even released.

This figure isn't for the people who already have the chase. Most of the Collector Editions, ironically enough, are not meant for us "hardcore" collectors. Each of them have something a little different. This one, not a whole lot could be changed. But there is a HUGE difference between this one and others...

This is the figure that TMP promised us when they showed the original photography. They're making it up to all the collector's that wanted the original piece that were unable/unwilling to obtain the chase (which was a quick decision to somehow get it out to us "hardcore" collectors then). This isn't like they're releasing a snowy Brady as a CE with an extra decal or something because it's a "hot item". They are making a figure they original announced was going to be a regular. It's a unique situation.

And yeah, I get it. If you bought the chase for above retail, without the knowledge that something like this was going to happen, I can understand how you wouldn't like it. But what about those of us that thought it was a cool item when they first showed it us and thought we were going to be able to obtain it easily but were disappointed when they had to make a change?

[flyeaglesfly]

no thanks

[Cjp2]

So they added 2 patches (Great!!!?), it would have been nice to at least get the long sleeves off....

[sremmaz]

We were pretty clear that we were trying to find a way to release the full wall version to mass later on last year. If someone chose to "pay out the ass" for it last year, it wasn't like they were given false info.


LOL!!!! Go Get em Mark...

[Tarheelfan44]

And to think, a year ago people were clamoring for us to make the full bullpen wall available some way, ANY way...



times change. what was a great idea a year ago isn't always the same in the future.

people wanted it because it was fresh back then. now its not. an you know that. don't use the fact that people wanted it an entire year ago as a cop-out for producing a bland figure. Zildjian couldn't be more right, and to boot, he even provided us with a real life example of how choices like these have affected sports figures before....oh well...

[Chewdeezy]

Who cares.

[quiggle]

I'd rather have had this as one of the FanFest figures and Mattingly as the CE

[Elias_Devil]

times change. what was a great idea a year ago isn't always the same in the future.

people wanted it because it was fresh back then. now its not. an you know that. don't use the fact that people wanted it an entire year ago as a cop-out for producing a bland figure. Zildjian couldn't be more right, and to boot, he even provided us with a real life example of how choices like these have affected sports figures before....oh well...

OK, but people would be ripping him for not keeping his promise if this didn't come out. I have the chase and I'm not sure if I will get this, but I have no problems with this coming out.

[flyeaglesfly]

I LIKE CANDY

[sremmaz]

I LIKE CANDY

I LIKE TURTLES.....:D

[eclipse9696]

I LIKE TURTLES.....:D

I LIKE CANDIED TURTLES

[Bryan316]

I'm not spinning that someone with the MLB 18 Rivera chase should feel the need to run out and get this Collector's Edition. It's being made readily available for people who couldn't find/didn't buy the chase figure last year, and to casual collectors who might not have seen even the regular figure at all last year.
I gave up chasing the fullpen version last year, so I'm glad this figure is coming out.

Mark, will the packaging be in the 24-sized window box? Any chance we can see it? If the backdrop has the bullpen or crowd or something, it could look amazing in-package.

[NIT10ELIONS]

PASS........ho hum....put 2 patches on it and say "CE"

[northstar37]

This smells of reissuing Peyton Manning as a "Superbowl Special" with a high tech rain gloss finish on his uniform: trying to reissue something we already purchased. I guess the two patches makes this a MUST BUY?!? This will attract the casual fan, but stop with the forced enthusiasm to us..were not buying it (take it both ways).

[mfan]

And to think, a year ago people were clamoring for us to make the full bullpen wall available some way, ANY way...

I think you're missing the point here Mark. You can't claim that the casual collector is your core customer, while at the same time failing to offer reasonable and reliable retail outlets. And please don't respond with K-Mart. Having K-Mart as the big new retailer sends the message that the brand is junk.

[Hardcore Legend]

And to think, a year ago people were clamoring for us to make the full bullpen wall available some way, ANY way...

Coulda just sold the wall in parts.

Yup. Now, you'll be privileged enough to pay $15+ for a figure that ORIGINALLY was going to go in until 'cost' made it impossible. Should have just sold the wall and base like they do with the hockey nets.

[classic]

all this is is a blatant attempt by mcfarlane toys to stick it to the completionist by making them buy product they already have. well as a completionist im officially putting a stop to it. items like this are ridiculous and an insult to the collector. they need to realize this and stop making the same product over and over again. its time people stop buying this junk.


and why are boxed figures twice the cost of a clamshell figure. the clemens, bonds, ruth, mantle, now this. why should i pay 10 extra bucks for just a box that doesnt even display the figure nicely on a shelf. tell me what sense this makes mcfarlane, and where is my extra 10 bucks going. i realize this comes with a wall so theres some added cost, still not 10 bucks worth, but why are the others that are just plain figures 10 dollars more. pure greed on the manufacturers part.

[Elias_Devil]

all this is is a blatant attempt by mcfarlane toys to stick it to the completionist by making them buy product they already have. well as a completionist im officially putting a stop to it. items like this are ridiculous and an insult to the collector. they need to realize this and stop making the same product over and over again. its time people stop buying this junk.

No it's not. It's for the people who don't want to spend 30+ on the chase.

[AS251BR]

all this is is a blatant attempt by mcfarlane toys to stick it to the completionist by making them buy product they already have. well as a completionist im officially putting a stop to it. items like this are ridiculous and an insult to the collector. they need to realize this and stop making the same product over and over again. its time people stop buying this junk.


and why are boxed figures twice the cost of a clamshell figure. the clemens, bonds, ruth, mantle, now this. why should i pay 10 extra bucks for just a box that doesnt even display the figure nicely on a shelf. tell me what sense this makes mcfarlane, and where is my extra 10 bucks going. i realize this comes with a wall so theres some added cost, still not 10 bucks worth, but why are the others that are just plain figures 10 dollars more. pure greed on the manufacturers part.

When did $15 become 10 more than $11?

[AS251BR]

I LIKE CANDY

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/as251b/free_candy_van.jpg

[Pierce58]

nice..

[Peter Hoffman]

Now, a YEAR later, it will be available as a exclusive

No it won't.

[bigsexy_j]

How many casual collectors buy exclusives off of the company site?

[Elias_Devil]

How many casual collectors buy exclusives off of the company site?

It's not being sold off the company site.

[classic]

When did $15 become 10 more than $11?

and who said it was 15. ive never seen a box set edition of a figure sell less than 20 at retail, id assume this would be the same, especially considering the extra accesories

[naiot]

As a die hard Yankee Fan, I was expecting something to blow me away. I already have the Full Bullpen opened and another one sealed. I have a feeling that this exclusive is going to end up like the Roger Clemens Yankees Exclusive. So it might be a good idea to wait. What would of been awesome, a 12 inch version. Sell the Full Bullpen separate, that would entice people to buy it. I would not think twice about this.

[AS251BR]

and who said it was 15. ive never seen a box set edition of a figure sell less than 20 at retail, id assume this would be the same, especially considering the extra accesories

I've always got them for $15 at TRU.

[Patriots2421]

And to think, a year ago people were clamoring for us to make the full bullpen wall available some way, ANY way...

Why I agree it's good you answered the call, answering it AFTER you made everyone go chase hunting crazy is a bit lame. Specially after it was orginally supposed to be the reg figure.
Think of it this figure went from being $9.99 then to upwards of $40-50 chase prices, then to $18 in box set.

Either way you will never get what was originally offered as a 9 dollar regular figure

[naiot]

Don't worry people, TMP will get the message when they see that the figs aren't selling, but then again, its a Yankee Figure, it might still sell, oh well.

[Mark Weber]

I already mentioned this in the other thread some idiot started, but there's some inaccuracy in the bottom of the cap bill as it should be black not grey.

hopefully this is just on the proto and not on the final figures

The underbill on Rivera's cap will be black. You should see it when Ben gets packaged photography.

[quiggle]

thanks Mark, I've thought it over some more this weekend and am reconsidering getting this after all

[Mark Weber]

I gave up chasing the fullpen version last year, so I'm glad this figure is coming out.

Mark, will the packaging be in the 24-sized window box? Any chance we can see it? If the backdrop has the bullpen or crowd or something, it could look amazing in-package.

I think you'll like the packaging for this figure - it's pretty impressive. Ben will show it to you as soon as we get a pre-production sample back from the factory.

[Dominator39]

If the packaging is unique then I'll prolly get this, I could never find one as a chase.

[flyeaglesfly]

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/as251b/free_candy_van.jpg

my side now hurts!
THANKS!!:D

[Detroit Dogg]

Ugh.

The only thing that could be worse is perhaps a Todd Jones figure with a button that when pressed plays some Contemporary Christian crap.

On second thought, that would be great just for the hilarity factor.

~Dre

[bearoh]

If the packaging is unique then I'll prolly get this, I could never find one as a chase.

MLB.com is selling it for 15.99 and photo shows it is full bull pen but I am not sure if they really sells as the photo shows....

[Elias_Devil]

MLB.com is selling it for 15.99 and photo shows it is full bull pen but I am not sure if they really sells as the photo shows....

That's the MLB 18 chase.

[bearoh]

That's the MLB 18 chase.

Do you think they really sell the chase?

[Elias_Devil]

Do you think they really sell the chase?

Randomly.

[naiot]

Ugh.

The only thing that could be worse is perhaps a Todd Jones figure with a button that when pressed plays some Contemporary Christian crap.

On second thought, that would be great just for the hilarity factor.

~Dre

I beg to differ. Some of the Contemporary Christian music is awesome and better than the filth that people listen too. I rather listen about God than listen to some guy brag about how many hoes he's hit and how much ice they have.

[Detroit Dogg]

I beg to differ. Some of the Contemporary Christian music is awesome and better than the filth that people listen too. I rather listen about God than listen to some guy brag about how many hoes he's hit and how much ice they have.

Fair game.


I just detest Todd Jones.


~Dre

[naiot]

Ugh.

The only thing that could be worse is perhaps a Todd Jones figure with a button that when pressed plays some Contemporary Christian crap.

On second thought, that would be great just for the hilarity factor.

~Dre

Fair game.


I just detest Todd Jones.


~Dre

No sweat bro. I just hope TMP can do something about this.

[Patriots2421]

PASS........ho hum....put 2 patches on it and say "CE"

...and raise the price

[NY56]

I think you'll like the packaging for this figure - it's pretty impressive. Ben will show it to you as soon as we get a pre-production sample back from the factory.

Mr Weber did u get my email?:) Please get back to me.