The Official NASCAR Fan Thread- Texas Motor Speedway, TX (04/06/08) Race 7

[x90mattman]

I gotta pair of #44 Terry Labonte chromes like that a few weeks ago.

mattman^


Darlington Qualifying is now on! ;)


Scored this at Walmart last night! :D A chrome Jimmy Johnson chase car! :D



http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL454/2232591/7232141/95645424.jpg

[R. Giles]

I think Robby Gordon needs to rethink his strategy for this year and maybe so does Jr. Here's the starting line-up for tomorrow night:
1 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge 170.024
2 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 169.555
3 16 Greg Biffle Ford 169.222
4 38 Elliott Sadler Ford 168.665
5 25 Brian Vickers Chevy 168.607
6 5 Kyle Busch # Chevy 168.089
7 40 Sterling Marlin Dodge 167.773
8 19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge 167.693
9 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy 167.676
10 99 Carl Edwards Ford 167.642
11 97 Kurt Busch Ford 167.550
12 2 Rusty Wallace Dodge 167.436
13 42 Jamie McMurray Dodge 167.351
14 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy 167.322
15 20 Tony Stewart Chevy 167.322
16 41 Casey Mears Dodge 167.123
17 77 Travis Kvapil # Dodge 167.095
18 10 Scott Riggs Chevy 167.083
19 15 Michael Waltrip Chevy 167.021
20 6 Mark Martin Ford 166.953
21 80 Carl Long Dodge 166.760
22 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 166.388
23 43 Jeff Green Dodge 166.146
24 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy 165.995
25 11 Jason Leffler Chevy 165.950
26 32 Bobby Hamilton Jr. Chevy 165.855
27 01 Joe Nemechek Chevy 165.749
28 49 Ken Schrader Dodge 165.531
29 0 Mike Bliss Chevy 165.381
30 07 Dave Blaney Chevy 165.342
31 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 165.331
32 00 Kenny Wallace Chevy 165.076
33 22 Scott Wimmer Dodge 165.031
34 31 Jeff Burton Chevy 165.026
35 21 Ricky Rudd Ford 164.976
36 18 Bobby Labonte Chevy 164.970
37 45 Kyle Petty Dodge 164.854
38 37 Kevin Lepage Dodge 164.722
39 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy 164.628
40 34 Jeff Fuller Chevy 164.177
41 66 Hermie Sadler Ford 164.040
42-OP 4 Mike Wallace Chevy 163.202
43 92 Stanton Barrett # Chevy 163.408
DNQ 09 Johnny Sauter Dodge 163.094
DNQ 7 Robby Gordon Chevy 162.657
DNQ 61 Tony Raines Dodge 162.571
DNQ 89 Morgan Shepherd Dodge 160.744

[avsfan21]

Damnit I have to work next Saturday night

Hehe, I got myself out of working next saturday, but I think I am going to miss the Winston or what ever new G@y name they have for it now.

[exanimate]

Who wrecked Mikey? I was um, well I was sitting on the best seat in the house reading when that happened, and missed any replays. I just saw him in the car pissed off.

[avsfan21]

Jeff Green spun him into the wall at the end of the straight.

[Leafsfan1967]

Don't want ot jinx things, but my drivers are running 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 6th. Geebus I need a good couple of weeks to get back in the chase. Go 16/48/99/5 :D

[Leafsfan1967]

Awesome race! :eek: Too bad for Kyle Busch cutting down a tire and hitting the wall! :( He had a top 10 car all night!

[Bronko]

Biffle wins his 3rd race of the year. That's 3 for Biffle and 3 for Gordon out of the first 10 races :(

[R. Giles]

That was a wild finish, good thing there wasn't a 25 car pile up on the last restart. Wish somebody other then Bifle won but will accept since it wasn't Newman.

[avsfan21]

The should have thrown out that start and did it again. That was an aweful restart on newman's part. Brake checking the entire field is just stupid.

Boy Mikey and Jeff Green are going to get chewed out in the truck. Wonder if there might be some missed races over this, since nascar was threatening that.

[avsfan21]

WOOHOO, Kimi Raikkonen gets the win today in the Spanish Grand Prix. He Dominated the race leading every lap.

[R. Giles]

I will watch the F1 race next weekend on Speed. Kurt Busch got called to the trailer for criticizing Nascar and hitting an official with a water bottle during the race.

[Bronko]

The should have thrown out that start and did it again. That was an aweful restart on newman's part. Brake checking the entire field is just stupid.

I agree. None of my guys were up front, so I was pulling for Kenny Schrader and when Newman checked up it cost Schrader any chance.

[Leafsfan1967]

I agree. None of my guys were up front, so I was pulling for Kenny Schrader and when Newman checked up it cost Schrader any chance.

Schrader had absolutely no chance anyways! There is no way he could of held off any of those guys on 4 used up tires! No way at all! Would of been nice to see him win though!

[Purdue_Pete]

My driver (Jeff Burton) was screwed again by his crew. That guy would be about 4th in points if it weren't for his stinking pit crew. He was running six and some gomer left a lug loose!

How about that Waltrip/Green deal. Crazy or what? Anyone watch Inside Nextel Cup? Should be a lot of fun discussions tomorrow night! :D

[Bronko]

Schrader had absolutely no chance anyways! There is no way he could of held off any of those guys on 4 used up tires! No way at all! Would of been nice to see him win though!

I know, but maybe if Kenny could have passed Newman then Newman could have held up the guys with fresh tires long enough to get to the finish :p. Unlikey, but anything is better than seeing the same guys win over and over :rolleyes:

My driver (Jeff Burton) was screwed again by his crew. That guy would be about 4th in points if it weren't for his stinking pit crew. He was running six and some gomer left a lug loose!

It's not just Burton, it's all of RCR. Harvick came in to pit 5th during the last caution and came out 20th :(

[Batistuta]

I was starting to think Busch had grown up from his early days of being an ***........ no, he still is -

Busch acts up at Darlington, "actions not befitting of a champion": #97-Kurt Busch hit the [inside] wall on the first lap at Darlington Raceway. Then he hit an official with a water bottle, bad-mouthed NASCAR over his radio and ended up in a closed-door meeting with series officials. "His actions were certainly not befitting of a champion,'' NASCAR spokesman Jim Hunter said after the Dodge Charger 500. "He said things that are not fit for print.'' Busch knew it was going to be a bad night seconds after the race began. He had started 11th, but didn't even get a full lap in before he spun out coming out of the fourth turn and hit the inside retaining wall. He took the #97 Ford into the garage so his crew could make enough repairs for Busch to continue racing. Later in the race, NASCAR said Busch moved into the wrong position on the track under caution. Officials ordered him to stop and get in line where he was supposed to be, but Busch refused. He was sent into the pits for a two-lap penalty, and NASCAR officials took offense to the language he used over the radio. They ordered him to turn his engine off, and he responded my revving it. He also tossed a water bottle out of his window that hit the official in his pit. Busch was then summoned to meet with NASCAR after the race.

[Leafsfan1967]

I know, but maybe if Kenny could have passed Newman then Newman could have held up the guys with fresh tires long enough to get to the finish :p. Unlikey, but anything is better than seeing the same guys win over and over :rolleyes:


That's why they have the best sponsors, and best cars! They always win, and winning equals more sponsorship money to put back into the program!! :D Put Schrader in Jeff Gordon's car, and he'd prolly win, too! Most of the guys at the Nextel Cup level are pretty much equal in talent! There was a time when Michael Waltrip sucked really bad, but he was put in a DEI car, and he's had quite a lot of success ever since! :)

[Bronko]

There was a time when Michael Waltrip sucked really bad, but he was put in a DEI car, and he's had quite a lot of success ever since! :)

I wouldn't call 4 Restrictor Plate wins in 5 years at DEI a lot of success. And if everything holds up, I don't see him back at DEI next year.

[Leafsfan1967]

I wouldn't call 4 Restrictor Plate wins in 5 years at DEI a lot of success. And if everything holds up, I don't see him back at DEI next year.

Your missing the point! Had you of followed his Countrytime Lemonade career, you understand what I'm saying! LOL!!! Not sure what you would class as successful in Nascar, but I would have to say winning any races at this level would class you as successful. Back to back Daytona 500 wins! It took Dale Earnhart over 20 years to win that race! At last count, I don't recall Rusty Wallace or Mark Martin ever winning the 500! I would think all 3 of those guys would be classed as successful! I don't even like Waltrip, but I still would have to disagree with your above assesment! :) The car, and the team make the driver, just as much as their talent!

[Bronko]

Your missing the point! Had you of followed his Countrytime Lemonade career, you understand what I'm saying! LOL!!! Not sure what you would class as successful in Nascar, but I would have to say winning any races at this level would class you as successful. Back to back Daytona 500 wins! It took Dale Earnhart over 20 years to win that race! At last count, I don't recall Rusty Wallace or Mark Martin ever winning the 500! I would think all 3 of those guys would be classed as successful! I don't even like Waltrip, but I still would have to disagree with your above assesment! :) The car, and the team make the driver, just as much as their talent!

He didn't win the 500 back to back. He won in 01 and 03, and the 03 race was rain shortened. He has won the same amount of races as Morgan Shepherd, in 106 more races. Has has only won 2 career poles, zero with DEI, and none since 1991. He has never finished above 12th in the season standings, and never above 14th with DEI. He has been in 616 races, and has only won 4 times. There has only been one other driver in the history of Nascar to have been in as many races and have less wins than Michael Waltrip.

How ironic that his only wins have came on restrictor plate tracks with undoubtily the best team (DEI) at those tracks at the time.

[Leafsfan1967]

He didn't win the 500 back to back. He won in 01 and 03, and the 03 race was rain shortened. He has won the same amount of races as Morgan Shepherd, in 106 more races. Has has only won 2 career poles, zero with DEI, and none since 1991. He has never finished above 12th in the season standings, and never above 14th with DEI. He has been in 616 races, and has only won 4 times. There has only been one other driver in the history of Nascar to have been in as many races and have less wins than Michael Waltrip.

How ironic that his only wins have came on restrictor plate tracks with undoubtily the best team (DEI) at those tracks at the time.

Who cares???

[exanimate]

Careful Leafsan1967 and Bronko. You will end up in the trailer for a talking to.

[avsfan21]

Careful Leafsan1967 and Bronko. You will end up in the trailer for a talking to.

Yeah you might get suspeneded from a race. You never know when the Big Red Machine is at hand.

[Bronko]

Who cares???

Hey man, I thought we were just having a conversation on Michael Waltrip. Guess you didn't feel that way, sorry if I upset you.

[Leafsfan1967]

Hey man, I thought we were just having a conversation on Michael Waltrip. Guess you didn't feel that way, sorry if I upset you.

No problem bro! You were making me feel like I had to defend him, and as I stated in an above post I don't even like him! LOL!!! :D I didn't want to argue about something I could care less about! You were right about the back to back thing! I forgot about Ward Burton's win in between! Now if you decide to pick on Rusty, I will get up underneath you, get you loose, and put you in the wall! :p :)

[exanimate]

No problem bro! You were making me feel like I had to defend him, and as I stated in an above post I don't even like him! LOL!!! :D I didn't want to argue about something I could care less about! You were right about the back to back thing! I forgot about Ward Burton's win in between! Now if you decide to pick on Rusty, I will get up underneath you, get you loose, and put you in the wall! :p :)

Troy, please, don't ever say the words "I will get up underneath you" to another man again.

[Leafsfan1967]

Troy, please, don't ever say the words "I will get up underneath you" to another man again.

Ahhh! Don't be jealous Jason! :p :D I figured most West Virginian's would be comfortable with a statement like that! :D

[exanimate]

Ahhh! Don't be jealous Jason! :p :D I figured most West Virginian's would be comfortable with a statement like that! :D


:mad:

I am gonna get my dad, er I mean my grandpa to beat you up.

[Bronko]

No problem bro! You were making me feel like I had to defend him, and as I stated in an above post I don't even like him! LOL!!! :D I didn't want to argue about something I could care less about!

I guess the debate was over how to define a successful driver. Waltrip was just a pawn in the discussion.

Now if you decide to pick on Rusty, I will get up underneath you, get you loose, and put you in the wall! :p :)

Sort of like Rusty did to Tony Danza :D?

NEW YORK -- Tony Danza got quite a scare when he and NASCAR star Rusty Wallace were racing go-karts during the taping of a segment for the nationally syndicated "The Tony Danza Show."

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/other/2005/0509/photo/a_danza_il.jpgIn this image from TV, Tony Danza's go-kart is shown flipping over during the "DayTony 500."

Danza was leading as they entered the final lap Monday morning on West 66th Street, the show said. After Wallace gave Danza's vehicle a little "bump and run," the 54-year-old talk-show host lost control of his go-kart, which flipped over.

"Although slightly worse for wear, Danza escaped with no injuries," the show said in a statement.

Wallace, who rushed to Danza's side after the crash, said, "I thought I killed ya," to which Danza responded, "Yeah ... just before you retire, 'I killed Tony Danza.'"

"I know you're tough, but that [was] ridiculous, man!" Wallace was quoted as saying.

The "DayTony 500" segment aired on Monday's show.

[Leafsfan1967]

:mad:

I am gonna get my dad, er I mean my grandpa to beat you up.

Or you could just tell my wife how much I spend on toys! She has no clue! ;) :D

[Leafsfan1967]

I guess the debate was over how to define a successful driver. Waltrip was just a pawn in the discussion.



Sort of like Rusty did to Tony Danza :D?

NEW YORK -- Tony Danza got quite a scare when he and NASCAR star Rusty Wallace were racing go-karts during the taping of a segment for the nationally syndicated "The Tony Danza Show."

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/other/2005/0509/photo/a_danza_il.jpgIn this image from TV, Tony Danza's go-kart is shown flipping over during the "DayTony 500."

Danza was leading as they entered the final lap Monday morning on West 66th Street, the show said. After Wallace gave Danza's vehicle a little "bump and run," the 54-year-old talk-show host lost control of his go-kart, which flipped over.

"Although slightly worse for wear, Danza escaped with no injuries," the show said in a statement.

Wallace, who rushed to Danza's side after the crash, said, "I thought I killed ya," to which Danza responded, "Yeah ... just before you retire, 'I killed Tony Danza.'"

"I know you're tough, but that [was] ridiculous, man!" Wallace was quoted as saying.

The "DayTony 500" segment aired on Monday's show.

Crap, I would of loved to see that! :eek: I guess he got him too loose! :eek: :o :D

[avsfan21]

They just showed this on ESPNews, It was pretty funny, Rusty gave him a little bump. Then Tony rolls over. Havent they learned from Winslow, always wear and strip on a helmet.

[avsfan21]

Anyone seen Posse around much. I dont think I have seen him on in a week or two. Maybe he is really busy. Know anything Troy?

[Leafsfan1967]

Anyone seen Posse around much. I dont think I have seen him on in a week or two. Maybe he is really busy. Know anything Troy?

Jon moved from the 7pm - 7am shift, to the 7am-7pm shift, and cannot use the computer at work much now! More people watching over you on the day shift! :mad: I don't here from him much either! :(

Troy

[avsfan21]

Thanks for the update Troy.

[Leafsfan1967]

Thanks for the update Troy.

You are quite welcome sir! ;) We want Posse! We want Posse! :D

[Leafsfan1967]

Wow! Would I ever love to add this to my collection! Not gonna happen at that price! :eek: :(


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98021&item=5193987072&rd=1


http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/02/90/12_1_b.JPG

[ramos]

Harvick fan here. See you guys at both Dover races and in Richmond in September. Btw if it wasnt for bad luck bobby labonte wouldnt have any luck at all. Kind of feel bad 4 the guy

[Bronko]

http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/02/90/12_1_b.JPG
How about this one?
http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/ff/be/d1_1_b.JPG
I can't believe they got Rusty Wallace and Ryan Newman to sign the same card.:p

[sremmaz]

Wow! Would I ever love to add this to my collection! Not gonna happen at that price! :eek: :(


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98021&item=5193987072&rd=1


http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/02/90/12_1_b.JPG

Wow that is a clean looking card.

[avsfan21]

How about this one?
http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/ff/be/d1_1_b.JPG
I can't believe they got Rusty Wallace and Ryan Newman to sign the same card.:p

They just had to make sure Rusty signed it first.

[x90mattman]

That would be awesome if somebody got a card where one of the other drivers wrote something funny about the other driver on the card. Kinda like when Kevin Smith signs a poster that Ben Affleck has signed he usually write *** on it really bit and draws on afflecks face. Uniqueness rocks!

mattman^

They just had to make sure Rusty signed it first.

[avsfan21]

http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/02/90/12_1_b.JPG

Where is Greg Biffle, seems kind of weird that they left him off. I do believe the is a Teammate of all those guys. I guess I could be worng.

[Bronko]

I do believe the is a Teammate of all those guys. I guess I could be worng.

According to the checklist there isn't a Biffle:

AUTOGRAPHS - Teammates Autograph
Stewart/Leffler/B. Labonte
Busch/Martin/Kenseth
Newman R.Wallace (retail only)
Kahne Mayfield (retail only)
Jarrett Sadler (retail only)
Gordon Johnson (retail only)
Vickers T.Labonte
Busch Edwards
Kenseth Busch

[exanimate]

man, I would like to land that Gordon/Johnson one.

[avsfan21]

I would love to see a Gordon/Johnson/Vickers one. Maybe next year they will have all 4 Hendrick drivers on one

[R. Giles]

I wouldn't mind the Kahne/Mayfield one.

[R. Giles]

Here is the grid for tomorrow nights race:
1 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge 129.964
2 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 129.801
3 20 Tony Stewart Chevy 129.546
4 97 Kurt Busch Ford 129.453
5 38 Elliott Sadler Ford 129.063
6 21 Ricky Rudd Ford 128.989
7 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy 128.928
8 2 Rusty Wallace Dodge 128.891
9 16 Greg Biffle Ford 128.866
10 5 Kyle Busch # Chevy 128.848
11 99 Carl Edwards Ford 128.792
12 31 Jeff Burton Chevy 128.786
13 09 Johnny Sauter Dodge 128.762
14 6 Mark Martin Ford 128.719
15 19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge 128.602
16 41 Casey Mears Dodge 128.455
17 42 Jamie McMurray Dodge 128.449
18 43 Jeff Green Dodge 128.315
19 07 Dave Blaney Chevy 128.272
20 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy 128.246
21 77 Travis Kvapil # Dodge 128.090
22 40 Sterling Marlin Dodge 128.071
23 15 Michael Waltrip Chevy 128.053
24 0 Mike Bliss Chevy 128.053
25 01 Joe Nemechek Chevy 128.023
26 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 127.980
27 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy 127.956
28 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy 127.944
29 25 Brian Vickers Chevy 127.684
30 4 Mike Wallace Chevy 127.684
31 92 Tony Raines Chevy 127.551
32 32 Bobby Hamilton Jr. Chevy 127.289
33 7 Robby Gordon Chevy 127.250
34 22 Scott Wimmer Dodge 127.214
35 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 127.167
36 10 Scott Riggs Chevy 127.137
37 75 Mike Garvey Dodge 126.987
38 11 Jason Leffler Chevy 126.796
39 18 Bobby Labonte Chevy 126.790
40 49 Ken Schrader Dodge 126.594
41 45 Kyle Petty Dodge 126.446
42 89 Morgan Shepherd Dodge 126.274
43 66 Hermie Sadler Ford 126.003
DNQ 37 Kevin Lepage Dodge 125.980
DNQ 34 Jeff Fuller Chevy 125.628
DNQ 27 Kirk Shelmerdine Ford 121.087
DNQ 00 Carl Long Chevy 87.027

The Busch race had an exciting finish, maybe this one will too. Kahne is the first driver ever to win both Busch and Cup poles at Richmond on the same weekend.

[exanimate]

Almost race time. Also R. Giles. Thanks for posting the qualifying results. My mom and sister own a bar, and my sister called needing the results for there in house pool. Finding it on Nascar.com is a pain, and I knew I would find it right here.

[Leafsfan1967]

One hour to race time! Yippeee! :D

[Leafsfan1967]

Who wants to test your betting skills? Pro-Line is a betting outlet here in Canada, and a short while back they added Nascar to the mix! They have a weekly pool where you bet $5, and pick 10 drivers. You only have to pick the highest finisher of each group of 2, and there are 10 groups! Last week 10/10 won $9,079.50!! Try your luck! Here's my picks for Richmond! I only got 4/10 last week! :o (eg. If Johnson finishes 6th, Gordon has to finish 5th or higher)

This weeks choices are:

1. Jimmy Johnson vs Jeff Gordon
2. Dale Jr vs Ryan Newman
3. Tony Stewart vs Kurt Busch
4. Jeremy Mayfield vs Greg Biffle
5. Mark Martin vs Matt Kenseth
6. Jamie McMurray vs Kevin Harvick
7. Ricky Rudd vs Kasey Kahne
8. Micheal Waltrip vs Elliott Sadler
9. Sterling Marlin vs Jeff Burton
10. Bobby Labonte vs Dale Jarrett


My picks are :

1. Gordon
2. Newman
3. Stewart
4. Biffle
5. Martin
6. Harvick
7. Kahne
8. Sadler
9. Burton
10.Jarrett



Give it a shot! :D

[Leafsfan1967]

Ever have one of those feelings! Well, I did this morning, and switched Jimmy Johnson to Ryan Newman (who I took for qualifying) Sometimes you get lucky! :o :D


Troy

[avsfan21]

There seems to be a lot of different paint schemes tonight.

I am done for in the league this week.

[Leafsfan1967]

There seems to be a lot of different paint schemes tonight.

I am done for in the league this week.

18, and 99 I noticed! Who else?

[avsfan21]

5, 10, 97, 48 has the smashed up variant.

[Leafsfan1967]

Kahne is looking good to get his first win! 25 to go! :eek:

[Bronko]

Well shucks, I was dreading this day. Kahne finally wins a race :(

[R. Giles]

Happy Kahne got his first win, hope the other's come quicker. Now he's qualified for Saturday's Shootout at Lowe's.

[R. Giles]

Almost race time. Also R. Giles. Thanks for posting the qualifying results. My mom and sister own a bar, and my sister called needing the results for there in house pool. Finding it on Nascar.com is a pain, and I knew I would find it right here.

Your Welcome and next weekend's race is big money night. Qualifying I think is either on Wednesday night or Thursday night.

[avsfan21]

Once Jeff had his troubles, I turned it to cartoon network to watch the rest of the Clone Wars Cartoon.

[R. Giles]

Once Jeff had his troubles, I turned it to cartoon network to watch the rest of the Clone Wars Cartoon.

Most of Jeff's problems happened right after I got home so really didn't get a good look at it. To I have seen all of Vol. 2 for Clone Wars.

[Joe Solak]

Good to see Kahne get his first win.......it was so sad to see the Hendricks boys have a bad day! :D

[R. Giles]

I'm kinda of happy to see Hendrick cars have a bad day. That way if they can have the bad days early, they might not collapse at the end of the season and lose the championship.

[Bronko]

Come on guys it's All-Star week and no posts since Sunday? Who could forget the Pass in the Grass, Davey Allison getting knocked unconscious after slamming into the wall after he won, or Rusty Wallace spinning out Darrell Waltrip?

[Leafsfan1967]

I may have to get the wife to tape the race on Saturday night! Work calls! :(

[avsfan21]

It kind of depends when the race ends as to if I get to see it or not. I will watch most of it, but I have to go into work late at night. I should be able to catch most of it, just not the end if it doesnt work out.

[R. Giles]

I might miss the beginning of the open. Should be home in time for the Big shootout but never know work is very strange.

[R. Giles]

Qualifying for the all-star challenge is over here is the lineup:
1 13 13 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 122.443 187.091 1
2 14 14 6 Mark Martin Ford 123.192 184.615 8
3 9 9 2 Rusty Wallace Dodge 123.227 186.780 3
4 18 18 38 Elliott Sadler Ford 123.414 183.655 13
5 1 1 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge 124.197 185.008 6
6 16 16 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy 124.625 184.957 7
7 19 19 99 Carl Edwards Ford 124.867 183.524 14
8 7 7 97 Kurt Busch Ford 125.171 181.879 20
9 12 12 01 Joe Nemechek Chevy 125.271 182.815 16
10 2 2 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 125.896 184.131 10
11 5 5 16 Greg Biffle Ford 126.725 185.765 5
12 11 11 18 Bobby Labonte Chevy 127.118 183.880 12
13 8 8 44 Terry Labonte Chevy 128.399 186.008 4
14 10 10 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy 128.673 184.068 11
15 6 6 19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge 129.691 186.916 2
16 20 20 15 Michael Waltrip Chevy 134.626 182.420 18
17 4 4 20 Tony Stewart Chevy 137.819 183.337 15
18 15 15 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy 144.221 184.445 9
19 3 3 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 145.571 182.809 17
20 17 17 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy 146.022 182.033 19

Then one person will enter through the open which Mike Bliss has the pole to and one driver being voted in.

[exanimate]

Anyone else started grilling out and drinking beer yet? I have. Ready for some All Star action.

[Leafsfan1967]

Anyone else started grilling out and drinking beer yet? I have. Ready for some All Star action.

Me, bro! :D Just swallowed a 16 oz T-Bone! ;) Beer, red meat, Nascar, and chatting with my buds! Ahhh! Life is complete! :D

Troy

[R. Giles]

Anyone else started grilling out and drinking beer yet? I have. Ready for some All Star action.

What's grilling out, I didn't get home from work until 7:30.

[exanimate]

Grilling out, barbecuing, cooking out, whatever you wanna call it.

[R. Giles]

That was crap what Vickers did to Bliss, Bliss deserves to move on.

[Bronko]

That was crap what Vickers did to Bliss, Bliss deserves to move on.

Oh please, Nascar bills the race as win or go home and talks about how each driver would do anything to win and that's what Vickers did. It happens all the time in the All Star race.

[exanimate]

Wonder how often Troy will check ebay now for that hat the Kurt Busch autographed hat he threw in the crowd? Also how fun is it to watch Carl Edwards in interviews. He is always so excited to just be there.

[Leafsfan1967]

Wonder how often Troy will check ebay now for that hat the Kurt Busch autographed hat he threw in the crowd? Also how fun is it to watch Carl Edwards in interviews. He is always so excited to just be there.

Kurt Busch is a tool! :p Plus his ears are funny! :D

[Bronko]

Nemechek doesn't have a chance in a war of words with Happy :D

[Leafsfan1967]

I don't know why the hell Harvick is so pissed at Nemechek! It was Stewart's fault! Harvick is just another spoiled, whiny, arrogant, jackwad just like Stewart. :rolleyes: I sure can remember the 29 causing many wrecks over the last few years! He's one to talk! :mad:

[Bronko]

I don't know why the hell Harvick is so pissed at Nemechek!

Maybe because Nemechek just cost Harvick and about 8 other drivers a chance at a million dollars.

[R. Giles]

Maybe because Nemechek just cost Harvick and about 8 other drivers a chance at a million dollars.

I wouldn't say it was Nemechek, I would say it was a racing accident.

[deogg]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Attaboy Mark!!!!!!!!!!!!

[R. Giles]

Mark has always been good at Lowe's but good to see a old school driver when the shootout.

[Leafsfan1967]

Not sure what race you were watching! :confused: Even Stewart admitted hitting Nemechek! How do you figure it was Nemechek's fault?

[Bronko]

Not sure what race you were watching! :confused: Even Stewart admitted hitting Nemechek! How do you figure it was Nemechek's fault?

Yeah and he also said he didn't know how he could run into him when they were going the same speed. Nemechek might (probably) have gotten lose.

[lion4life]

http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/05/21/allstar_challenge/gallery5.jpg

[Leafsfan1967]

Yeah and he also said he didn't know how he could run into him when they were going the same speed. Nemechek might (probably) have gotten lose.

Loose? LOL!! Ya, that will usually happens when someone runs into your left quarter panel in a corner! :rolleyes: Tony Stewart would never take all the blame! He's too good! Just ask him! ;) I suppose Bliss got a little loose at the start/finish line? :confused: I don't blame Vickers as much in that incident, as he tried to block him several times! I feel bad for Bliss, though! :( Anyways, nuff said about this! I was happy to see Martin win! Rusty has been competitive this year, too! Good to see these two go out with a bang! So, who to pick in the Fantasy league next week? Hmmm!

[exanimate]

How fitting was it to see Mark take it in that paint scheme? Mark is definately one of the classiest guys in the sport.

[Purdue_Pete]

Kevin Harvick and his bleached blonde bimbo wife are two of the most spoiled rotten punks that exist.

Ohhh, was that a little harsh? :D

[exanimate]

Kevin Harvick and his bleached blonde bimbo wife are two of the most spoiled rotten punks that exist.

Ohhh, was that a little harsh? :D

C'mon Pete, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

[Purdue_Pete]

C'mon Pete, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

Nah, I like this board and don't want to get banned. :D

[Bronko]

Does everyone hate Kevin Harvick :p? This must be how Jeff Gordon fans feel :D

[avsfan21]

I personally think that 1 driver gets in from voting has got to go. I felt that Truex didnt deserve to be in the All-Star event. He hasnt even 5 Winston cup starts under his belt, but since he is Dale Jr's teammate he gets into the race. The spot should have gone to someone that actually races full time. They should go back to doing the Open in two races. The main open then the shootout to get the last transfer spot.

I was rooting for Vickers, not a huge fan of him spinning Bliss, but happy to see he made it into the All-Star race to finish 3rd. Not an aweful Hendrick day, 3-4-5. Jeff had a pretty good comeback from pitting after the Newman wreck to finish 4th.

The track doesnt look too racing anymore. It is basically everyone fighting for the middle lane in 1 and 2 and the bottom in 3 and 4

[R. Giles]

Does everyone hate Kevin Harvick :p? This must be how Jeff Gordon fans feel :D

I don't hate Harvick but don't like him either. Harvick has been known to do alot of stupid stuff and thinks he can cause he took over for Earnhardt. Also alot of things that Harvick has not caused has been blamed on him like Saturday night.

[avsfan21]

Kimi Raikkonen and McLaren have another dominating run at Monaco. He took the win after leading every lap. He has now moved up to 2nd in the driver points and McLaren moved up to 2nd in the constructors points. Montoya helped that by finishing 5th from starting on the last row of the grid.

If anyone wants to watch Danica Patrick will be on David Letterman tonight. I hope she has a good run at Indy next sunday.

On the Harvick subject. I dont care for him at all. He needs to think before he acts and speaks. He is always doing or saying something stupid. That is what gets him in trouble. Going after Nemechek before he even knew what happened wasnt the smartest thing. Kevin really did this to himself. As they said on wind tunnel tonight, Tony causes the wreck and Harvick looks like the bad guy in the whole deal.

[Sinsightful]

I personally think that 1 driver gets in from voting has got to go. I felt that Truex didnt deserve to be in the All-Star event. He hasnt even 5 Winston cup starts under his belt, but since he is Dale Jr's teammate he gets into the race. The spot should have gone to someone that actually races full time. They should go back to doing the Open in two races. The main open then the shootout to get the last transfer spot.


What?!?!?
He DID win the Busch Championship in commanding fashion last year. I would like to think that would earn him a spot alot quicker than someone like Schrader last year who has done nothing to deserve that spot other than be on the weekly kiss-up to Nascar show 'Inside Nextel Cup'.
Let's remember, The Busch Champion is invited to the Iroc series every year along with the Cup Chamion, IRL Champion, etc. etc.

[x90mattman]

Guess my cats were trying to send a message that sadler wasn't the one to bet on for the all star race, i awoke the other morning to find only sadler's base sitting on the floor. His body has yet to be found (3rd shelf down on the left)...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/x90mattman/100_0580.jpg

More as it develops... :D

mattman^

[avsfan21]

Dont forget to set your teams for this week, the cut off is really early, Thursday at 2 in the morning.

[avsfan21]

What?!?!?
He DID win the Busch Championship in commanding fashion last year. I would like to think that would earn him a spot alot quicker than someone like Schrader last year who has done nothing to deserve that spot other than be on the weekly kiss-up to Nascar show 'Inside Nextel Cup'.
Let's remember, The Busch Champion is invited to the Iroc series every year along with the Cup Chamion, IRL Champion, etc. etc.

I still feel that he didnt deserve to be in the All Star event. He has 4 Cup starts. How does that earn him a spot in the Cup All Star race? For Schrader at least he as earned his dues in the Cup series, He has won races. I could see if he was running the full Cup season but not a race here and there. Everyone knows the only reason he got in that race is because he is Dale Jr's teammate. It has be come the sexist driver competion to get into the all star event, how is that racing?

[avsfan21]

Up from page 4

[x90mattman]

Good commentary up at nascar.com by Marty Smith about the all star situation.

mattman^

[R. Giles]

Qualifying for the Coke 600 is Thursday at 7 p.m., hope Jr. keeps sucking with the new crew chief.

From Jayski.com
Effective immediately, Steve Hmiel will serve as interim crew chief on the #8 Budweiser Chevrolet driven by Dale Earnhardt, Jr. in the NASCAR Nextel Cup Series, replacing Pete Rondeau. Richie Gilmore, Vice President of Motorsports at Dale Earnhardt Inc. stated, "We are capable of consistently winning and are focused on that as a company. We are going to concentrate our efforts on improved results with the number 8 car." Steve Hmiel, Technical Director at Dale Earnhardt Inc., will replace Rondeau commencing with this weekend's Coca-Cola 600 at Charlotte. "Pete is a valuable asset and has brought a number of innovations to our organization. He will continue to do that in a different capacity and we're happy that Pete is so strongly dedicated to Dale Earnhardt Incorporated and its success," Gilmore said. He concluded, "We have high expectations of how our teams are to perform and we will utilize every resource we have to win races. Our primary objective is to get the 8 and the 15 solidly into the Chase for the Championship and as a company, we're focusing everything we have at that goal."

[avsfan21]

Good commentary up at nascar.com by Marty Smith about the all star situation.

mattman^

He is basically saying the same I am about Truex.

[Johnathan]

I want a 12" Dale Sr., Goodwrench mass market version, with a Wrangler firesuit specialty version. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Bronko]

I like Truex, he's one of my favorite drivers. Does he deserve to be in the all star race? Maybe not, but who else should be? Kasey Kahne had the fan vote won until he became eligible at Richmond. Jaime McMurray, Sterling Marlin, or Travis Kvapil just aren't that popular. If you ask the fans to vote in a driver they would like to see race, how can they be wrong?

[x90mattman]

You have to seperate "All-Star" from "person I like". I like Truex Jr as well, but would I consider him a Nextel Cup All-Star, no. He is a hell of a racer, evident in that he is the reigning busch series champ and has 2 wins this year, but different series, different standards.

mattman^

If you ask the fans to vote in a driver they would like to see race, how can they be wrong?

[Bronko]

You have to seperate "All-Star" from "person I like". I like Truex Jr as well, but would I consider him a Nextel Cup All-Star, no. He is a hell of a racer, evident in that he is the reigning busch series champ and has 2 wins this year, but different series, different standards.

I agree with you, but who else deserved it? Just because Kenny Schrader runs full-time Cup, do the fans want to see him in an All*Star race? I don't like the fan voting at all. Let them earn their way in.

[R. Giles]

I agree with you, but who else deserved it? Just because Kenny Schrader runs full-time Cup, do the fans want to see him in an All*Star race? I don't like the fan voting at all. Let them earn their way in.

Thats why I liked the old format. They had one race and the winner gets in the challenge. Then had another race with the guys left and that winner gets into the challenge.

[avsfan21]

If you ask the fans to vote in a driver they would like to see race, how can they be wrong?

Yeah they can be wrong. It all depends on who you ask. The fans shouldnt really be allowed to vote for outcomes that effect races. The Most Popular Driver award has even become a joke now. If there was a way to insure that each person voted once, I can see it, but now people just stuff the box by voting over and over again.

[Leafsfan1967]

Breaking news! Dale Jr. has a new interim crew chief. Steve Hmiel! More to come!!! ;)

Here's a link to the thread I posted on this! So what do you guys think??? I heard tonight on ESPN radio that Dale Jr, and Tony Jr, were not getting along very well at the end of last season, and at times, even at the last race at Homestead, weren't even speaking to each other! I guess that was why they changed crew chiefs! I never knew that till now! I'm sure it was no secret! Anyways, who's gonna take over the job? Hmiel, or will someone else leave a team??? Hmmmm! Interesting! How about Larry McReynolds coming out of the Hollywood Hotel and getting back in the pits? :D I doubt it! ;)

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171122

[deogg]

Did anyone see Jeff Gordon do "Take me out to the ballgame" for the 7th Inning stretch at the Cubs game last night?

The entire crowd bood the daylights outta him!!!

It was GREAT!!! :D

[x90mattman]

R. Giles beat ya to it! And McReynolds isn't int he Hollywood Hotel, he's up in the suites broadcasting, Hollywood Hammond and i forget the other guy are in the Hotel..

mattman^

How about Larry McReynolds coming out of the Hollywood Hotel and getting back in the pits? :D I doubt it! ;)

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171122

[avsfan21]

Thats because Jayski always gets his news out first. Probably since he uses the term rumors, if he is wrong about things it is ok, since it is a rumor. That way he does have to make sure things are 100% right before posting. He is right the majority of the time though.

[sremmaz]

Today I went to community day for the Indy 500 - free autos. Well I was hoping to get a bunch , but the lines were ridiculous.

I got there about 20 minutes late and got in the Helio and Hornish line - and they cut it off about 20 people in front of me after waiting for about 30 minutes. So I headed over to the Rahal/Letterman team line to get Danica - and waited 1hr and then they tried to cut the line off about 5 people in front of me. LOL!... OH HELL NO... I got a little mad - under control but mad. We convinced the guy to let us stay in line - JUST IN CASE... we raised enough of a fuss that the Team Reps brought signed cards from each person on the team and passed them out Just in Case. When I got up there - Danica was taking a bit (she was on the end) - so Vitor said let some more in (since he was just sitting there) - so we got to go up, so I grabbed a few more Vitor signed things, and Brack and Rice, and Danica was pissed - yelled at the guard - THATS IT - NO MORE. But I got my little Die-Cast signed and picked up one of the unsigned cards. Well she was posing for some pics with some VIPS's behind her, I stuck the unsigned card out and asked if she would sign it - she scowled and said - didn't you get one that they passed out - while signing the one I handed her - so I just didn't say anything and got my card and left :)

Since Avs asked first, the extra Danica is for him - PM me your addy please

As usual I picked up some extra 5x7 team card things for the guys on the board and have them for whomever wants them

Kenny Brack - Signed x1
Kenny Brack - Unsigned x1
Vitor Meira - Signed x2
Vitor Meira - Unsigned x7
Buddy Rice - Signed x2
Buddy Rice - Unsigned x 3

First Come, First Served - PM Me only please

[sub4]

Anybody catch the picture of the cake given to Jimmie Johnson by the President of his fan club? If not, here it is:


http://tinypic.com/5dl35s

[R. Giles]

Today I went to community day for the Indy 500 - free autos. Well I was hoping to get a bunch , but the lines were ridiculous.

I got there about 20 minutes late and got in the Helio and Hornish line - and they cut it off about 20 people in front of me after waiting for about 30 minutes. So I headed over to the Rahal/Letterman team line to get Danica - and waited 1hr and then they tried to cut the line off about 5 people in front of me. LOL!... OH HELL NO... I got a little mad - under control but mad. We convinced the guy to let us stay in line - JUST IN CASE... we raised enough of a fuss that the Team Reps brought signed cards from each person on the team and passed them out Just in Case. When I got up there - Danica was taking a bit (she was on the end) - so Vitor said let some more in (since he was just sitting there) - so we got to go up, so I grabbed a few more Vitor signed things, and Brack and Rice, and Danica was pissed - yelled at the guard - THATS IT - NO MORE. But I got my little Die-Cast signed and picked up one of the unsigned cards. Well she was posing for some pics with some VIPS's behind her, I stuck the unsigned card out and asked if she would sign it - she scowled and said - didn't you get one that they passed out - while signing the one I handed her - so I just didn't say anything and got my card and left :)

Since Avs asked first, the extra Danica is for him - PM me your addy please

As usual I picked up some extra 5x7 team card things for the guys on the board and have them for whomever wants them

Kenny Brack - Signed x1
Kenny Brack - Unsigned x1
Vitor Meira - Signed x2
Vitor Meira - Unsigned x7
Buddy Rice - Signed x2
Buddy Rice - Unsigned x 3

First Come, First Served - PM Me only please

I give you credit for wanting to stand in line for over an hour to get an autograph of the Rahal drivers.

[R. Giles]

Anybody catch the picture of the cake given to Jimmie Johnson by the President of his fan club? If not, here it is:


http://tinypic.com/5dl35s

HaHa No.

[avsfan21]

Anybody catch the picture of the cake given to Jimmie Johnson by the President of his fan club? If not, here it is:


Yeah that was almost funny. The whole g a y thing has been beaten to death. The guy has a wife.

[exanimate]

Funny that the g a y guys always have the hottest wives. I think my wife is pretty hot, maybe I am g a y.

[sub4]

Two of NASCAR's leaders in points, captured in the garage early today in conversation:



http://tinypic.com/5dt2md

[sremmaz]

I am not a Gordon fan. But this thread used to be great when we could talk about the sport and not get into the bashing and dumb pictures..

Sorry - just my rant for the day

[avsfan21]

I am not a Gordon fan. But this thread used to be great when we could talk about the sport and not get into the bashing and dumb pictures..

Sorry - just my rant for the day

I agree I dont know why this started all of a sudden.

[sremmaz]

new people posting I guess... Oh well. Maybe just post on the Yahoo Group instead :) Or better yet Ignore

[avsfan21]

Time for qualifying.

[Bronko]

I wished there would have been a camera on when Danica snapped at you Paul :D

[Johnathan]

Cool deal Paul, anyone happen to catch Danica on Lettermam the other night, yowza:D

[avsfan21]

Cool deal Paul, anyone happen to catch Danica on Lettermam the other night, yowza:D

I did. I felt kind of stupid really, right befor the show started, I was like why the hell would she be on Letterman. Then it hit me like a ton of bricks, DUH, he is part owner of her car. Rahal and Letterman have gotten me in their camp. They have Dancia and now the bring Kenny back, now they just need to use a Toyota engine and it would be all good. Oh well I guess I will have to support Honda like I do McLaren in F1. I hated McLaren then they go out and sign my driver Kimi Raikkonen, I was then kind of forced to go with McLaren at that point.

[avsfan21]

I was looking at the prices for a Danica Die-cast and found this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1228&item=5201558800&rd=1

These things on ebay are getting out of hand. The first one was funny, but now there is one of anyone in the news.

[exanimate]

I have tried, guys, but I just can't get into that kind of racing. I guess the racing isn't physical enough ( I think everyone understands what I mean). Maybe I don't like all the technology. How they can adjust the car from a computer, etc... Maybe if I attended a live race it would be different.

[Bronko]

In a complete surprise, Ryan Newman wins the pole at Charlotte :rolleyes:

[avsfan21]

In a complete surprise, Ryan Newman wins the pole at Charlotte :rolleyes:

Too bad he doesnt seem to race as well as he can qualify. If he could this season would be over. Good run for Jeff, outside of row 1 isnt too bad, since everyone wants to be on the outside on restarts.

[avsfan21]

Here is the lineup

1 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 192.988
2 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy 191.925
3 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 191.259
4 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge 190.779
5 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy 190.739
6 5 Kyle Busch # Chevy 190.685
7 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 190.490
8 0 Mike Bliss Chevy 190.355
9 20 Tony Stewart Chevy 190.114
10 38 Elliott Sadler Ford 189.980
11 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy 189.976
12 42 Jamie McMurray Dodge 189.860
13 99 Carl Edwards Ford 189.800
14 6 Mark Martin Ford 189.580
15 25 Brian Vickers Chevy 189.527
16 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy 189.474
17 21 Ricky Rudd Ford 189.328
18 50 Jimmy Spencer Dodge 189.281
19 77 Travis Kvapil # Dodge 189.241
20 09 Johnny Sauter Dodge 189.168
21 2 Rusty Wallace Dodge 189.122
22 49 Ken Schrader Dodge 189.109
23 23 Mike Skinner Dodge 189.009
24 41 Casey Mears Dodge 188.831
25 7 Robby Gordon Chevy 188.739
26 44 Terry Labonte Chevy 188.719
27 91 Bill Elliott Dodge 188.646
28 10 Scott Riggs Chevy 188.633
29 16 Greg Biffle Ford 188.587
30 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevy 188.501
31 15 Michael Waltrip Chevy 188.444
32 07 Dave Blaney Chevy 188.363
33 22 Scott Wimmer Dodge 188.088
34 18 Bobby Labonte Chevy 187.859
35 19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge 187.617
36-OP 45 Kyle Petty Dodge 187.598
37-OP 97 Kurt Busch Ford 187.528
38-OP 01 Joe Nemechek Chevy 187.383
39-OP 43 Jeff Green Dodge 187.110
40-OP 31 Jeff Burton Chevy 186.884
41-OP 40 Sterling Marlin Dodge 186.677
42-OP 4 Mike Wallace Chevy 185.382
43 37 Kevin Lepage Dodge 188.278
DNQ 11 Jason Leffler Chevy 187.611
DNQ 32 Bobby Hamilton Jr. Chevy 186.968
DNQ 66 Hermie Sadler Ford 186.819
DNQ 36 Boris Said Chevy 185.739
DNQ 34 Jeff Fuller Chevy 185.420
DNQ 00 Carl Long Chevy 185.211
DNQ 92 Tony Raines Chevy 183.461
DNQ 75 Mike Garvey Dodge 183.405
DNQ 27 Kirk Shelmerdine Ford 179.910

[ajaxdog]

Good Job Mr. Gordon !!!
I am going with Ryan this week in the league .... Hope he dont bite me in the ***** like always

[exanimate]

There is a pretty good article on what Nascar is hoping to achieve in motorsports, in the new Sporting News Magazine. If you get a chance, give it a read.

[R. Giles]

I was looking at the prices for a Danica Die-cast and found this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1228&item=5201558800&rd=1

These things on ebay are getting out of hand. The first one was funny, but now there is one of anyone in the news.

That has to be the dumbest thing I have seen and think it is up to 20 bucks.

[R. Giles]

I have tried, guys, but I just can't get into that kind of racing. I guess the racing isn't physical enough ( I think everyone understands what I mean). Maybe I don't like all the technology. How they can adjust the car from a computer, etc... Maybe if I attended a live race it would be different.

The technology to me is what makes it interesting. Plus I like seeing the drivers trying to make a legit pass instead of just ramming up someone's butt to move them. I also like at times the bumping and rubbing that's why I watch all motorsports.

[Bronko]

Nice to see Robby Gordon is still alive and kicking :rolleyes:

Danica has an unfair advantage (http://%0Ahttp://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?series=wc&id=2070899)

[R. Giles]

I think he is jealous that she might win one before he does.

[avsfan21]

I think that he should have focused on the Indy 500 this year, at least he has a shot of having a praier in the race unlike the Coke 600.

[R. Giles]

That is true, his own run team for the IRL is pretty good unlike in Nascar.

[avsfan21]

Big day tomorrow, F1 in the morning before I get up, 7:30 a.m. if anyone wants to watch it live on speed, replay at 12:30.

Indy coverage starts at Noon.

And of course the Coke 600 coverage starts at 5.

I hope I can get a hat trick with my drivers. We shall see.

[R. Giles]

I missed the beginning of the F1 race but heard Mark Webber got taken out. Man that ending was wild with Kimi Raikkonen flat spotting his right front and Alonso pumping out fast laps. Then on the last lap Raikkonen's right front suspension breaks and Alonso wins.

Let's hope the nascar race has a wild finsih like the F1 race.

[Buick GN]

Anyone looking for NASCAR Series 4, Jr. Chase figures?( wearing black cap)

Spotted 3 this a.m at my local Wally.

Looking for HotWheels T-Hunts for trade

[Bronko]

Well someone has finally pulled that horseshoe out of Kurt Busch's behind, but the stick is still firmly in place.

[R. Giles]

Maybe the stick will have dislodged abit from the two wrecks he had tonight.

[R. Giles]

Poor Chip Ganassi. Mears running into Marlin taking both out and then Mcmurray wrecks.

[avsfan21]

Well I havent had a great racing day so far. My favorite F1 drivers have a bad day. Webber takes himself out in the first turn of the race. Then Raikkonen loses his suspension on the last lap from the lead.

Then at Indy Kenny Brack goes out early with suspension issues. On the plus side Danica had a good run, first laps lead by a women and had a good shot at winning the race to finish 4th.

Now hopefully the Cup race will be better for my driver. That didnt start out well when the piece of track went through his grill. At least he is still in the race.

[avsfan21]

A nice move by Jr to take out his teammate. Bumb drafting doesnt work well on tracks that dont require plates.

[deogg]

Another wreck.

AND GORDON WAS IN IT!!!!!!!!!! :D

As cool as it was seeing Gordon getting wrapped up in it, Vickers SO needs parked.

At least he's owning up to it though.

[deogg]

Well, Nascar got the winner they wanted... how convenient....

[Leafsfan1967]

Awesome finish! Was pulling for Labonte after the year he's had. Oh well! I'm pissed as my 4 guys were in the top 10 all day! It didn't end as good as I hoped! :mad:

[sremmaz]

man I sucked this week in Fantasy... Damn Wreck

[x90mattman]

sremmaz, yea i hear ya, my guys finished 13th, 15th, 22nd, 25th. Although for the 8 guys i picked for the week only 2 of the ones I didn't end up being my active drivers did better. Oh well, always next week :-)

[Leafsfan1967]

I hear ya Paul! I had Johnson, Vickers, Martin, and Jarrett! They were all top 10 cars for more than 3/4 of the race! GRRRRRRR! :mad:

[Bronko]

I can't believe I watched this race for 5 hours, and it ended like that. I was so pulling for Bobby to get into Jimmie and slow him down. I actually feel for Brian Vickers, he hasn't had a good career and was running away with the win until Mr. Heart-throb wrecked yet again :rolleyes:. Harvick in the top 5/10 all day until the caution screwed him :mad:. At least I had a mediocre day in fantasy with 1, 6, 25, and 28 with Bobby Labonte sitting in reserve :(

[avsfan21]

Boy did the ruin Charlotte. It is not a 1 groove race track that you could spin out at any moment out of the blue. 22 yellows, what a joke. I had all my cares in the top 10 also, but that wreck took out 3 of my cars.

[avsfan21]

Wow my racing day sucked. Other than Danica my drivers didnt even finish their races. If Jeff didnt win I was hoping to see Vickers get his first win.

[x90mattman]

I actually liked the "levegated" track. Thought it made for good, if unpredictable racing. Some wicked bumps going into the turns.

[R. Giles]

I hated what they did to Lowe's. 10 cautions is fine but they made the track so fast people where just wrecking worse then Bristol which shouldn't happen.

[AdrianMonk]

Labonte should've done a better job of blocking, he let Johnson steal the win from him!

[R. Giles]

Labonte thought he had it in the bag going through turn 3 cause he thought nobody would dare go higher. Johnson wanted the win so he went higher.

[avsfan21]

I hated what they did to Lowe's. 10 cautions is fine but they made the track so fast people where just wrecking worse then Bristol which shouldn't happen.

Lowes? what is Lowes? I thought it was Charlotte. It will always be Charlotte for me.

[avsfan21]

bump

[Dirty Mo Posse]

A nice move by Jr to take out his teammate. Bumb drafting doesnt work well on tracks that dont require plates.

He is driving like a Rookie!! Making mistakes all over the place!!

He wasn't trying to bump draft he was trying the cross-over but misjudged it by like 4 feet!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

He is driving like a Rookie!! Making mistakes all over the place!!

He wasn't trying to bump draft he was trying the cross-over but misjudged it by like 4 feet!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:D

Posse

Nice to see you on here again, its been a while.

[x90mattman]

T-minus one month till my first Rolex, Busch and Cup race in person (went to my first truck race too mid-may! Gotta get my figs packed i want to try to get signed :D . My scanners got shipped out today too... http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=3357066 picked up 2 of these for me and my girl. Anybody else going to be there by chance?

mattman^

[R. Giles]

Nope going to stay home and watch the race.

[avsfan21]

Rolex

Cant say that I am a fan of the series. Just seems like a dumbed down version of the ALMS with identical cars to race. At least with the ALMS the cars are different and look good to boot. Nothing beats this car. Other than an F1 car at least.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/avsfan21/2Championwithteam.jpg

[deogg]

Lowes? what is Lowes? I thought it was Charlotte. It will always be Charlotte for me.

To me it's B-Lowes ;)

[avsfan21]

Well there is no more Shane Hmiel. I believe this isnt the first time he has failed a nascar drug test. This kid has some real issues, on and off the track.

Hmiel kicked out of Dover? UPDATE - OFFICIAL, fails drug test: Been told from folks at the track that #32-Shane Hmiel was was escorted out Dover International Speedway after a privite meeting in the NASCAR trailer. Supposedly all reports have Hmeil failing a randon dug test. Hmeil was 2nd fastest in practice today. Being told Ron Hornaday will drive the #32 car at Dover.
NASCAR STATEMENT: NASCAR has suspended driver Shane Hmiel indefinitely, for violation of the sanctioning body's substance abuse policy. NASCAR officials said Thursday that Hmiel was tested for banned substances after NASCAR Busch Series qualifying at Lowe's Motor Speedway in Concord, N.C. The results of the test were positive, violating Section 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing) and Section 12-4-E (violation of the NASCAR Substance Abuse Policy) of the 2005 NASCAR rule book. Hmiel is 14th in the current NASCAR Busch Series driver championship standings.(NASCAR PR)(6-2-2005)

[x90mattman]

Yea, he was suspended for 4 months at the end of 2003. I was a Hmiel fan, but not anymore. I hope that Nascar bans him for life. He has been given an opportunity of a lifetime twice, and has screwed himself both times. I think that letting him back a 3rd time sends a bad image for the sport. I don't want Nascar to turn into the other big sports with speculation on who's doping and who's not. Besides that, if I was in one of the 43 cars on any given saturday I sure as hell wouldn't want to have worry about if the guy drafting with me at 190 mph is high or not.

I'm also surprised that nobody has really brought up the fact that he drove in last weeks race with drugs in his system. I'm not saying I think he was high while driving, but at the same time if they found drugs in his system how do we know he wasn't? Good thing he wrecked himself and not anybody else last week.

[R. Giles]

Exactly I thought maybe he learned the first time he was kicked out. I hope Nascar stays tough and keeps him out in the upper divisions. You can always allow him in the weekly racing series like Winston West or something like that. But if Nascar thinks they can allow him back in the upper division they would probably have alot of heat coming from the driver's.

[R. Giles]

Today I went to community day for the Indy 500 - free autos. Well I was hoping to get a bunch , but the lines were ridiculous.

I got there about 20 minutes late and got in the Helio and Hornish line - and they cut it off about 20 people in front of me after waiting for about 30 minutes. So I headed over to the Rahal/Letterman team line to get Danica - and waited 1hr and then they tried to cut the line off about 5 people in front of me. LOL!... OH HELL NO... I got a little mad - under control but mad. We convinced the guy to let us stay in line - JUST IN CASE... we raised enough of a fuss that the Team Reps brought signed cards from each person on the team and passed them out Just in Case. When I got up there - Danica was taking a bit (she was on the end) - so Vitor said let some more in (since he was just sitting there) - so we got to go up, so I grabbed a few more Vitor signed things, and Brack and Rice, and Danica was pissed - yelled at the guard - THATS IT - NO MORE. But I got my little Die-Cast signed and picked up one of the unsigned cards. Well she was posing for some pics with some VIPS's behind her, I stuck the unsigned card out and asked if she would sign it - she scowled and said - didn't you get one that they passed out - while signing the one I handed her - so I just didn't say anything and got my card and left :)

Since Avs asked first, the extra Danica is for him - PM me your addy please

As usual I picked up some extra 5x7 team card things for the guys on the board and have them for whomever wants them

Kenny Brack - Signed x1
Kenny Brack - Unsigned x1
Vitor Meira - Signed x2
Vitor Meira - Unsigned x7
Buddy Rice - Signed x2
Buddy Rice - Unsigned x 3

First Come, First Served - PM Me only please

Just want to say thanks, I got me a Kenny Brack signed card in the mail today.

[VH Fan]

What an idiot. Never likd him anyway. Hope he gets the help he needs.

[R. Giles]

That's the thing he got help before thats why Nascar let him back in to the upper divisions.

[ramos]

see u guys sunday.im in sec 226 row 19

[sremmaz]

Just want to say thanks, I got me a Kenny Brack signed card in the mail today.

Cool - no problem. I always try and grab extra's for "the gang" when I can

[avsfan21]

Cool - no problem. I always try and grab extra's for "the gang" when I can

I got mine also, thanks again Paul.

[avsfan21]

Up from page 4, Time for some Truck racing.

[avsfan21]

Well lets see if we can set a new record for cautions this week. We can hope for 23 yellows for this race. I dont know what is going on this season it has been nothing but yellow flag, yellow flag and more yellow flags.

Oh well I forgot to set my team for this week. I will just have to stick with the drivers I have. Hopefully they will finish better than last week. They all ran well last week, just had trouble finishing.

[exanimate]

I forgot to pick my drivers as well. I have been so damn busy I forgot. Not that it matters, as I have that last place spot on lockdown.

[sremmaz]

Well I sucked today in Fantasy. Had a decent team, just started the wrong ones. :(

[Leafsfan1967]

Biffle was wicked awesome today! I near swapped him with the 88 this morning but decided to save the 16 car for later races. :( I did swap the 20 car for the 12 when I saw Neil was taking the 20! That worked out thankfully! Biffle would have given me an awesome points day though! :o Glad to see the old dogs (2+ 6) running so well this year! :)

[avsfan21]

Well the 20 car ruined my day. I thought Jeff would have a good day today. After that wreck I pretty much stopped watching the race. I did catch the end, but that was about it.

[Leafsfan1967]

Well the 20 car ruined my day. I thought Jeff would have a good day today. After that wreck I pretty much stopped watching the race. I did catch the end, but that was about it.

Stewart hit a few guys today! Not sure what his problem was today!! :rolleyes:

[R. Giles]

Stewart hit a few guys today! Not sure what his problem was today!! :rolleyes:

It seems that Stewart always wrecks people at Dover. I guess it is the speed of the place and his style of driving that just don't mix well.

[Leafsfan1967]

It seems that Stewart always wrecks people at Dover. I guess it is the speed of the place and his style of driving that just don't mix well.

Maybe??? Or, it could be he's just being a dink, like he is most days! :D Too much talent, and he knows it! :rolleyes:

[R. Giles]

Maybe??? Or, it could be he's just being a dink, like he is most days! :D Too much talent, and he knows it! :rolleyes:

Found it funny that he didn't want to take blame for it like always. Used the excuse that you come up on cars so fast that it is unavoidable.

[Leafsfan1967]

Found it funny that he didn't want to take blame for it like always. Used the excuse that you come up on cars so fast that it is unavoidable.

That's why I don't like him much! Awesome driver, but his "I'm larger than life attitude" makes me dislike him! He could crap his pants, and somehow blame Zippy for it! LOL!! :D

[exanimate]

Actually if you remember, he did crap his pants last year :D. I thought Tony had done well this year with his temper, and attitude, but it seems that it is coming back out.

[Leafsfan1967]

Actually if you remember, he did crap his pants last year :D. I thought Tony had done well this year with his temper, and attitude, but it seems that it is coming back out.

And, he blamed his crew chief, something about his uniform was set up too tight! :D Tony needs to just shut up, and drive! Heaven forbid if you had to admit to making a mistake!

[Bronko]

It's a 36 race season, every driver will be a villian sooner or later.

[Leafsfan1967]

It's a 36 race season, every driver will be a villian sooner or later.

Very true! Many have already! Kurt Busch, Dale Jr and more.

[AdrianMonk]

Nice run by Biffle, I'm a huge Dale Jr. fan but I've been following Biffle since his Busch days, glad the Hendrick girls and the Busch elves didn't win today!

[R. Giles]

This season is becoming as bad as the 2003 Formula One season. You know pretty much week in and week out who will win. You have the races that are a fluke and someone else wins. Other then at Richmond it is pretty easy to say who will win.

[avsfan21]

Looks like with the new gear rule that nascar put in place this year. It will mean that there wont be any shifting in the corners at Pocono this weekend. I dont know how this will effect the racing, but Jeff Gordon doesnt like it. He says it will just cause single file racing.

Why do they really have this rule anyway? I would think it would make better racing with having a gear that would better suit the driving style of that driver. Instead of making an IROC type series.

[Leafsfan1967]

Looks like with the new gear rule that nascar put in place this year. It will mean that there wont be any shifting in the corners at Pocono this weekend. I dont know how this will effect the racing, but Jeff Gordon doesnt like it. He says it will just cause single file racing.

Why do they really have this rule anyway? I would think it would make better racing with having a gear that would better suit the driving style of that driver. Instead of making an IROC type series.

Hmmm! I never heard they were doing that! :confused: I agree! Doesn't make any sense! :rolleyes:

[x90mattman]

Why do they really have this rule anyway?

If memory serves correct, its part of Nascar's "lets help the teams spend less money" or the real thing "lets force the teams to spend money on something else" cause we all know if you have a 5 mil budget, your not, not going to spend that money to try and win. Anyways, nascar thinks that if they limit the gears, that teams will spend less money by not trying to make engines that top out over 10,000rpm's. And as you guys said, Pocano is a good example as Newman has run over 9,000rpm's there in the past. But we all know that if you can't spend money on your engines, you'll dump that money somewhere else to try and be competitive.

mattman^

[Gaiter64]

Maybe??? Or, it could be he's just being a dink, like he is most days! :D Too much talent, and he knows it! :rolleyes:

Stewart wrecks people at many race tracks, not only Dover...the problem I have is that he has all the talent in the world. I think he may have been off of his Prozac last weekend

[avsfan21]

Up from page 5

[avsfan21]

Man this thread has been slow this week, had to revive it from page 8.

Well it might be a tough weekend. F1 race and Nascar race are about the same time this week. It will be a tough one as to who to watch.

At least Sonoma and the USGP are on different weekends, since I really want to watch both.

[Bronko]

Anyone see Nascar on Jeopardy tonight?

[avsfan21]

Anyone see Nascar on Jeopardy tonight?

Cant say that I did, it was a category?

[Bronko]

Cant say that I did, it was a category?

Yeah, a whole category called "Nascar Geography." They would name a track and the contestants would have to name the state the track was in. $200 was Daytona, $400 was Infineon, $600 was Nazareth, $800 was Talladega, and $1,000 was Watkins Glen.

[avsfan21]

Yeah, a whole category called "Nascar Geography." They would name a track and the contestants would have to name the state the track was in. $200 was Daytona, $400 was Infineon, $600 was Nazareth, $800 was Talladega, and $1,000 was Watkins Glen.

Thats too bad, that would have been $3000 for me. Did they actually get the answers right?

[Bronko]

Thats too bad, that would have been $3000 for me. Did they actually get the answers right?

One guy buzzed in and guessed Florida for Talladega.

[avsfan21]

If they didnt get Daytona they are just morons. You really dont need to know the race track to know Daytona Beach Florida.

[R. Giles]

If they didnt get Daytona they are just morons. You really dont need to know the race track to know Daytona Beach Florida.

The people that go on Jeopardy have smarts in areas that nobody cares about. That just proves that even the person who thinks their smart doesn't know geography, just like alot of americans.

[x90mattman]

daytona is in florida?!? I gotta change my flight for the end of the month! :D

[R. Giles]

Qualifying is Saturday at 12 and airs at 5 on FX.

[exanimate]

I don't know if any of you get The Sporting News, but I started getting it a couple of weeks ago, and I am really impressed with there racing coverage. I guess I am used to ESPN the magazine giving it very little coverage.

[x90mattman]

I signed up for a free subscription a few weeks back, so its good to here they have good coverage!

mattman^


I don't know if any of you get The Sporting News, but I started getting it a couple of weeks ago, and I am really impressed with there racing coverage. I guess I am used to ESPN the magazine giving it very little coverage.

[R. Giles]

I don't know if any of you get The Sporting News, but I started getting it a couple of weeks ago, and I am really impressed with there racing coverage. I guess I am used to ESPN the magazine giving it very little coverage.

No don't get it but nice to hear it is good coverage. Did anybody see the IRL race with the split screen commercial break. I know that TNT did it once and would like to see it continue. Cause if they take a break with racing going on you don't miss anything.

[VH Fan]

I don't know if any of you get The Sporting News, but I started getting it a couple of weeks ago, and I am really impressed with there racing coverage. I guess I am used to ESPN the magazine giving it very little coverage.

Started getting mine a few weeks ago too and I have also been impressed with their racing coverage. It's way more than ESPN the mag. So fat I like the SN alot more than ESPN, which is the one I've been paying for...

[x90mattman]

Well, Jr's screwed at Pocano, which will probly screw us for the rest of the season. So long 400 points!

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/images/06/12/cuprace3.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/images/06/12/cuprace4.jpg

mattman^

[x90mattman]

Not likely for Nascar. I saw the first IRL race of the season and liked that too, but the Fox guys have said it won't work because you have to have sponsers agree ahead of time to let there commercial be ran with the race still playing, which most have been unresponsive too.

Personally, I think it was just a play by the IRL to try to bring in more viewers. I also liked that the first race was broadcast on one channel as the regular broadcast and ESPN2 with only using in-car cams. Works well when you have to tv sets in your living room :D . Now if I could only scrounge up the change for Nascar InDemand...

mattman^

No don't get it but nice to hear it is good coverage. Did anybody see the IRL race with the split screen commercial break. I know that TNT did it once and would like to see it continue. Cause if they take a break with racing going on you don't miss anything.

[Leafsfan1967]

The bad year continues! :confused: They said at this point last year, he had lead 550 laps. This year only 5 laps lead! :o

[avsfan21]

Boy maybe Goodyear should have had the Pocono tire tested at Pocono and not Las Vegas. It only makes sense to me, I must be crazy. I hope Vickers can hold on, I would love to see him get a win.

[ramos]

man these tires are made of jello today

[R. Giles]

This is crazy Rudd has had 3 flat tires today. Jr. 2, Kahne 2, and other guys with one.

[ramos]

just wait it will soon be time for engine failures

[R. Giles]

Not likely for Nascar. I saw the first IRL race of the season and liked that too, but the Fox guys have said it won't work because you have to have sponsers agree ahead of time to let there commercial be ran with the race still playing, which most have been unresponsive too.

Personally, I think it was just a play by the IRL to try to bring in more viewers. I also liked that the first race was broadcast on one channel as the regular broadcast and ESPN2 with only using in-car cams. Works well when you have to tv sets in your living room :D . Now if I could only scrounge up the change for Nascar InDemand...

mattman^

If I was a sponsor I would agree to it. When Nascar coverage goes to commercial I switch the channel to something else. With this you get people to stay and see or hear the commercial plus get the racing action.

Just my take but too everybody posting on this thread is smarter then anybody running nascar or the sponsor execs.

[ramos]

bye bye stewart

[Leafsfan1967]

Am I ever glad I decided to change Jeff Gordon to Kasey Kahne last night! :( Damn!!! :mad:

[R. Giles]

Am I ever glad I decided to change Jeff Gordon to Kasey Kahne last night! :( Damn!!! :mad:

LOL just wait Gordon will get his due.

[avsfan21]

That F1 coverage sucked so bad. CBS needs some new announcers. I just hate Ralph Shaheen. I swear the guy knows nothing about any form of racing and just makes things up to sound good. He was just spitting out stuff today that never even happened. Like at the end when he said that Ferrari got a 1-2 finish, yet my boy Kimi Raikkonen won the race. Wouldnt a 1-2 finish mean you finished first and second, not second and third. I dont know how this guy still has a job.

Derek Daily at least knows something, but I can only handle so much of him. He is worse than Darrell Waltrip in the talking department. He just doesnt know how to stop talking. He made some pretty big errors in the commentary also today. It was like neither of them had any idea on what was actually going on in the race. I cant wait for Speed to get the coverage back. We need our David Hobbs, Steve Matchett, and Bob Varsha fix.

[R. Giles]

That F1 coverage sucked so bad. CBS needs some new announcers. I just hate Ralph Shaheen. I swear the guy knows nothing about any form of racing and just makes things up to sound good. He was just spitting out stuff today that never even happened. Like at the end when he said that Ferrari got a 1-2 finish, yet my boy Kimi Raikkonen won the race. Wouldnt a 1-2 finish mean you finished first and second, not second and third. I dont know how this guy still has a job.

Derek Daily at least knows something, but I can only handle so much of him. He is worse than Darrell Waltrip in the talking department. He just doesnt know how to stop talking. He made some pretty big errors in the commentary also today. It was like neither of them had any idea on what was actually going on in the race. I cant wait for Speed to get the coverage back. We need our David Hobbs, Steve Matchett, and Bob Varsha fix.

Yeah the coverage sucked pretty badly. At least the race was exciting with Fisi losing hydraullic pressure and Alonso smacking the wall. Then Montoya getting excluded from the race after leaving the pits on red. Happy Kimi won but was nervous with 4 laps to go and Schumi closing in.

[R. Giles]

I think Kasey Kahne needs to park the car. 3 blown tires and now everybody pitting early.

[Leafsfan1967]

Geebus! #9 has had three flats! GRRRRRRR! :mad:

[R. Giles]

Flat tire for Scott Riggs and putting debris down.

[Bronko]

I don't really mind the commercial breaks, but I just wish they would cut back when something happens. I hate it when they go to a commercial under green and come back to show you the leaders pitting under caution. Then sometimes they don't even get back in time to show the pit stops.

[avsfan21]

Oh darn, Tony blew a tire and ripped off his fender. I think I might cry over that one.

[avsfan21]

Cant wait until Nascar gets a new tire supplier. This is just proof that there needs to be a change. There was probably at least 15 blown tires today.

[deogg]

Oh darn, a Roush driver wins, Mark finishes ahead of the Golden Boys of Nascar (24 and 48), life is GOOD :D

[Bronko]

Could Nascar have screwed up the ending any more then they did? It took them half an hour to clean Newman's caution.

[avsfan21]

I wonder if edwards will get fined for not going to winners circle. Jeff Gordon got fined for that last year at Indy. I dont really see the difference.

[VH Fan]

Could Nascar have screwed up the ending any more then they did? It took them half an hour to clean Newman's caution.

I was thinking the same thing. It seems like they could have expidited the whole thing so we could have had the restart earlier, maybe then we could have actually had a green finish.

[Bronko]

I wonder if edwards will get fined for not going to winners circle. Jeff Gordon got fined for that last year at Indy. I dont really see the difference.

Edwards went there after he did his backflip.

[Leafsfan1967]

One of my worst Nascar Fantasy points days, ever! :o

[R. Giles]

I was thinking the same thing. It seems like they could have expidited the whole thing so we could have had the restart earlier, maybe then we could have actually had a green finish.

I just wish that after Bobby Labonte wrecked the had another green-white go. I don't think the Newman should of counted since Nascar blew that crap with 7 caution laps. With that Carl Edwards probably wouldn't of won and I would be happy.

[Bronko]

I just wish that after Bobby Labonte wrecked the had another green-white go. I don't think the Newman should of counted since Nascar blew that crap with 7 caution laps. With that Carl Edwards probably wouldn't of won and I would be happy.

I understand that Nascar only wants to do 1 GWC, but I wouldn't count the first restart as a GWC since the caution came out with 7 to go. Anyone know what happened to Bobby? Fox never showed his wreck.

[LOBO]

If I was Roger Penske I'd fire Newman's crew chief Matt Borland immediately.
2 or 3 weeks ago they were in the exact same position (in 7th place coming into their last pit stop). Instead of taking tires they took gas only, and ended up finishing something like 14th.
fast forward to today and they were in the exact same position (7th) came into pits and took gas only again! Don't these morons ever learn? Newman already blew a tire earlier in the race. 7 laps to go and he blows a tire because they didn't take any on the last pit stop, doesn't finish the race and ends up 34th.
I'm no expert, but even I can see by now that if you don't take any tires on your last pit stop you will finish 5-10 spots lower (or worse) than if you do take tires.
I lost major points in the pool this weeks because of that idiot.

[R. Giles]

I understand that Nascar only wants to do 1 GWC, but I wouldn't count the first restart as a GWC since the caution came out with 7 to go. Anyone know what happened to Bobby? Fox never showed his wreck.

I have no idea what happened with Bobby, I don't think they ever showed a replay. I'm guessing here that he might of gotten tagged going into the turn because of a pile of cars after the wreck in turn 1.

[avsfan21]

One of my worst Nascar Fantasy points days, ever! :o

I would have done better if Bobby held on for the last two laps. He brought down my score. I would have done decent if he would have stayed on the lead lap.

[avsfan21]

Goodyear called to the trailer: Goodyear officials were called to the NASCAR trailer after 11 drivers blew out a total of 22 left front tires Sunday at Pocono. Goodyear product manager Rick Heinrich said Goodyear engineers noticed several setups that "were very abusive to the left front outside shoulder" of the tires and that low air pressure could have compounded the problem. "It's never the tires' fault, is it?" says crew chief Fatback McSwain, whose driver, Ricky Rudd, was the victim of six cut tires.(Sporting News (http://www.sportingnews.com/experts/lee-spencer/20050612.html))
AND Goodyear field manager Rick Heinrich blamed most of the problems on a combination of overly-aggressive chassis setups and running over the rough rumble-strip curbing at the inside edge of the tunnel turn.(Winston Salem Journal (http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031783253012&path=%21sports&s=1037645509200))

I thought this was pretty funny. I have heard of drivers, but never Tire Manufacture Officials. I think this has to be a first. I hope this is the end of Goodyear in nascar. 22 blown tires is just a joke. I guess they learned their lesson by testing this tire at Las Vegas instead of Pocono. What were they thinking?

[Bronko]

I guess they learned their lesson by testing this tire at Las Vegas instead of Pocono. What were they thinking?

Maybe they like to gamble.

[avsfan21]

Maybe they like to gamble.

Too bad people's lives are at stake with their gamble.

[Bronko]

Looks like times are a changin

Barring an unexpected snag, NASCAR's top series will undergo another name change, beginning with the 2007 season. The company created by the merger of Sprint and Nextel is expected to take on the name Sprint. And the name of what is now known as the Nextel Cup Series will also change to the Sprint Cup Series, ThatsRacin.com has learned.

Sprint Cup Series (http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/11879200.htm)
(http://http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/11879200.htm)
(http://http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/11879200.htm)

[ajaxdog]

First congrats to Dirty Mo .... good week
Second Elliott Sadler screwed me by speeding on pit road .... TWICE!!!
Third I am now in 4th in total points
Fourth .... I passed Troy
Fifth Should have just left it Winston Cup .... I bet the name changes 3 or 4 times in the next ten years the way these companys come and go now days.

[R. Giles]

Looks like times are a changin

Barring an unexpected snag, NASCAR's top series will undergo another name change, beginning with the 2007 season. The company created by the merger of Sprint and Nextel is expected to take on the name Sprint. And the name of what is now known as the Nextel Cup Series will also change to the Sprint Cup Series, ThatsRacin.com has learned.

Sprint Cup Series (http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/11879200.htm)
(http://http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/11879200.htm)
(http://http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/11879200.htm)

If they want to change the name don't just change it to Sprint Cup Series that sounds horrible. Other's have said this and think it's the best, just use Sprint for the Nextal Cup.