The Official NASCAR Fan Thread- Texas Motor Speedway, TX (04/06/08) Race 7

[x90mattman]

Nextel Cup Series sounded horrible as well after 30 years of Winston, I would get rid of the Cup and just call it the Sprint Series. Whatever it is we'll get used to it :-). I don't think Sprint for the Nextel Cup would work though because it sounds like they are going to drop the Nextel name all together.

[exanimate]

They should call it the Nascar Cup. Make it "Sprint Presents Nascar Cup" or something like that.

[Purdue_Pete]

NASCAR:
I have been a fans since 1983. Loved Harry Gant, pull for Jeff Burton and Ryan Newman now.
Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Ryan Newman, Rusty Wallace and Mark Martin are world-class driver that could drive anything.

That being said...

IndyCar:
Better racing, better drivers, better tires, more tradition, faster cars, etc...

I am of the opinion that we kinda need ONE series (whether it's NASCAR or IRL) to be consider the top series that we we can have (like the past decade) people say NFL, MLB, NBA and NASCAR.

I love the Indy 500 and live in Indy - BUT love the SERIES of NASCAR (vs. the IndyCar Series). Now what's happening. You have to admit, if anyone watches the 3-wide, 220 mph, inches apart for 2 hours vs. the 4 or 5 hours snooze-fests that NASCAR has gave us the past few weeks, IndyCar is "better".

Your thoughts?

[VH Fan]

Sprint Cup Series? That sounds lame. I hope they don't go with that.

[x90mattman]

According to tv ratings there is only one racing series in the US and thats Nascar (second only the the NFL for any sport). I think the only reason that the IRL is getting any more press than normal is because of Danica. (which is cool, because more interest in any racing series helps them all).

What exactly do you mean by IndyCar tires are better? Goodyear takes a tire that will wear out on purpose. Look at Talledega last year or the year prior, Jimmie Johnson never changed his left side tires for 500 miles and they held up. If they wanted, they could take tires that would last the whole race, but whats the point in that? I'm sure you still have guys that would find a way to abuse them (such as running over the corduroy at Pocano)






IndyCar: Better racing, better drivers, better tires, more tradition, faster cars, etc...

I am of the opinion that we kinda need ONE series (whether it's NASCAR or IRL) to be consider the top series that we we can have (like the past decade) people say NFL, MLB, NBA and NASCAR.

I love the Indy 500 and live in Indy - BUT love the SERIES of NASCAR (vs. the IndyCar Series). Now what's happening. You have to admit, if anyone watches the 3-wide, 220 mph, inches apart for 2 hours vs. the 4 or 5 hours snooze-fests that NASCAR has gave us the past few weeks, IndyCar is "better".

Your thoughts?

[x90mattman]

I think this picture pretty much sums up the rest of the season for the 8 camp...Up in flames :(


http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/cup/06/13/dearnhardtjr.pocono/dale.jr.384.jpg

[R. Giles]

I think this picture pretty much sums up the rest of the season for the 8 camp...Up in flames :(


http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/cup/06/13/dearnhardtjr.pocono/dale.jr.384.jpg

That pick is great. Just find it funny that DEI won't spend money on research and now everybody has caught or passed them in terms of car engineering.

[Bronko]

I think the best thing for Jr to do is switch organizations. He has way too much power at DEI. The crew cheif should be able to overrule the driver, and Hmeil should make the call on 2 or 4 tires. Look at Kevin Harvick yesterday, Berrier asked him a question and Kevin said "I'm just the driver, you make the call."

[R. Giles]

I think the best thing for Jr to do is switch organizations. He has way too much power at DEI. The crew cheif should be able to overrule the driver, and Hmeil should make the call on 2 or 4 tires. Look at Kevin Harvick yesterday, Berrier asked him a question and Kevin said "I'm just the driver, you make the call."

I think it would be best for Jr. to leave DEI and see how another organization runs. He has been with DEI his whole career and think it's gottten to him. Like you said he does have too much power and either take it away and make him drive or throw him out and make him run the business.

[x90mattman]

I personally don't want him to switch organizations, I would bet that DEI is throwing more money into there stuff than any team right now to try and stop being embaraced every week. I do think he needs to grow up though and the coversation above is a perfect example, you do your job and let the crew do theres. If you think you can do a better job than your crew chief, please see Rusty Wallace.

mattman^

[avsfan21]

It would just be funny as hell if DEI let him go. I wonder if they would become the most hated team after that.

[R. Giles]

Joe Gibbs Racing has hired two-time NASCAR Winston Cup Series champion Terry Labonte to pilot the #11 Fed-Ex Chevrolet during the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series race weekend at Infineon Raceway in Sonoma, CA. He replaces Jason Leffler, the #11 team's regular driver, for this one event. "Jason understands that our support of him continues, as he'll race this weekend at Michigan and return to the #11 at Daytona," said J.D. Gibbs, president of Joe Gibbs Racing.

I'm not giving Leffler much luck to make it to the end of the season in the car.

[Bronko]

Yeah, Leffler really doesn't have a shot.

[R. Giles]

Yeah, Leffler really doesn't have a shot.

He stops being decent in the Busch series. He has said that they are bringing cars to the track that haven't been fully repaired. If he stops wrecking Gibbs might keep him longer.

[x90mattman]

If anybody needs any hobby series 2, Kim's having a case sale, only 40 bucks plus shipping (5 or 8) in the US. Check the dealers thread...

[exanimate]

I have been half tempted to collect the hobby version of every series, regs only. Maybe I should look into that.

[R. Giles]

Dale Earnhardt Jr. is not pleased with the state of his team, which fell to 16th in the standings after last week’s 33rd-place finish at Pocono. However, he is happy with the communication between his #8 Budweiser team and the #15 NAPA team of Michael Waltrip since Steve Hmiel was named his crew chief last month.

Find it funny that Jr. is now happy with sharing information. I have a feeling that Hmiel slapped Jr. a couple times to get him to share information. I don't think it was Rondeu's decision to not share information but Jr's. because he wanted to be better then Michael.

[Bronko]

Well, now that Waltrip is ahead of him of course Jr wants to share :rolleyes:

[avsfan21]

I am not a huge fan of this happy hour on friday and qualifying on saturday stuff. What exactly is impounding the car suppose to do other than f up the racing, since they cant change the cars to conditions of the day. This rule is up there with the one set of tires and one engine every two races in F1.

[R. Giles]

They think it will save the teams money because then they aren't spending tons of money on just qualifying equipment. Like different oil, different engines and what not.

[avsfan21]

I find this all these money saving rules in all racing just stupid. The teams are going to spend the money anyway. If it isnt for engines, oil, tires, whatever the rule is this week. It will be on something else, like more research and development. The teams are going to keep spending more and more money. There really isnt a way to stop it, unless you just start giving teams their cars to race like IROC.

[R. Giles]

That's what my mom said today, just make all the cars the same. Then it is based on driving talent. Most of the teams now that can have a bunch of other programs going on that they spend the extra money on. Like Hendrick, Roush, and Everham have Arca teams plus Busch. So they spend alot of money to improve the cup by doing this.

[Leafsfan1967]

That's what my mom said today, just make all the cars the same. Then it is based on driving talent. Most of the teams now that can have a bunch of other programs going on that they spend the extra money on. Like Hendrick, Roush, and Everham have Arca teams plus Busch. So they spend alot of money to improve the cup by doing this.

If you made all the cars the same, then there would be the big one every race! :) Most of the drivers all do have similiar talents. They are the best of the best, anywhere!! ;)

[ramos]

If you made all the cars the same, then there would be the big one every race! :) Most of the drivers all do have similiar talents. They are the best of the best, anywhere!! ;)

Very true. Only that the other than the nose and the headlight decals they are all pretty much the same. Even if you made them the same the setups are gonna be different. Not that Im in favor of an IROC type deal. Just my .02

[avsfan21]

Very true. Only that the other than the nose and the headlight decals they are all pretty much the same. Even if you made them the same the setups are gonna be different. Not that Im in favor of an IROC type deal. Just my .02

I would hate it also. I dont really like what Nascar is doing right now with common templates basically and common gear ratios. This is why I like F1 and Le Mans, the cars have strict rules to follow to build the cars, but they still look different.

[ramos]

Yeah im not into the f1 and lemans stuff. The problem with nascar is that they give into the whiners too much. Whenever a certain make wins a couple races in a row or they finish consistantly at the top,the other makes whine and cry. That leads to rule changes to make the cars even more the same. I remember about 2 years ago when the chevy and dodges kept getting front end kickouts week after week. I still watch everyweek I just hope it doesnt end up like iroc

[avsfan21]

Starting lineup for tomorrows race

1 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 194.232
2 41 Casey Mears Dodge 193.757
3 20 Tony Stewart Chevy 193.512
4 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge 193.123
5 19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge 193.086
6 18 Bobby Labonte Chevy 193.055
7 25 Brian Vickers Chevy 192.818
8 7 Robby Gordon Chevy 192.771
9 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy 192.658
10 91 Bill Elliott Dodge 192.658
11 01 Joe Nemechek Chevy 192.606
12 2 Rusty Wallace Dodge 192.555
13 97 Kurt Busch Ford 192.555
14 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 192.493
15 6 Mark Martin Ford 192.380
16 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy 192.313
17 5 Kyle Busch # Chevy 192.226
18 38 Elliott Sadler Ford 192.102
19 43 Jeff Green Dodge 191.980
20 0 Mike Bliss Chevy 191.980
21 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 191.627
22 22 Scott Wimmer Dodge 191.627
23 99 Carl Edwards Ford 191.413
24 42 Jamie McMurray Dodge 191.305
25 16 Greg Biffle Ford 191.189
26 11 Jason Leffler Chevy 191.189
27 32 Bobby Hamilton Jr. Chevy 190.739
28 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy 190.587
29 10 Scott Riggs Chevy 190.582
30 15 Michael Waltrip Chevy 190.491
31 23 Mike Skinner Dodge 190.375
32 45 Kyle Petty Dodge 190.370
33 31 Jeff Burton Chevy 190.179
34 21 Ricky Rudd Ford 190.129
35 66 Mike Garvey Ford 189.878
36 07 Dave Blaney Chevy 189.783
37 77 Travis Kvapil # Dodge 189.783
38 49 Ken Schrader Dodge 189.578
39 37 Kevin Lepage Dodge 189.449
40 40 Sterling Marlin Dodge 189.404
41-OP 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy 188.260
42-OP 4 Mike Wallace Chevy 186.591
43 51 Stuart Kirby Chevy 188.848
DNQ 92 Eric McClure # Chevy 188.206
DNQ 79 Derrike Cope Chevy 185.114
DNQ 34 P.J. Jones Chevy 185.090
DNQ 89 Morgan Shepherd Dodge 183.547

[ajaxdog]

Not a bad run for Robby Gordon .... bet he dont finish in top 25

[R. Giles]

Robby Gordon's engine will probably blow up.

[deogg]

Holy start your engines Batman!

That was actually kinda cool.

[Leafsfan1967]

Son of a beach! :mad: What is Vickers thinking?? Another, freaking bad points weekend for me in the Fantasy league! :mad:

[Leafsfan1967]

Well it now appears he lost a tire!! It looked as though he came in too fast at first!! :(

[R. Giles]

Seems Goodyear is having some tire issues this week. Granted they aren't blowing like last week, but alot of tires coming off with the cord showing. Maybe the driver's will boycott nascar until they slow the cars down because of the tire problems.

[avsfan21]

Seems Goodyear is having some tire issues this week. Granted they aren't blowing like last week, but alot of tires coming off with the cord showing. Maybe the driver's will boycott nascar until they slow the cars down because of the tire problems.

I said that to my dad before the race started, we were going to watch the F1 race until that big deal happened, so I turned it over to the nascar race. I said wouldnt it be great if the Goodyear drivers pull into the pits due to safety since Goodyear is always blowing tires.

[sremmaz]

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[Leafsfan1967]

Thanks Paul! I may try for that!! ;)

[exanimate]

Dumb question, but what are Etopps?

[sremmaz]

www.etopps.com

[x90mattman]

Any of you ever do the Etopps thing? Looks like word has gotten out that you can get your Martin cards signed cause the auctions for them on ebay are kinda spiking. Not really a bad deal though considering he's not gonna be running cup anymore. Though hopefully I can pick up his autograph at Mansfield next year :-)

[ajaxdog]

Saw all the 3" Nascar figures today at Wally World ... Picked up 3 Gordons. Not bad looking and they do go cool with the 1/24 cars.

[Jigga4Dub]

Saw all the 3" Nascar figures today at Wally World ... Picked up 3 Gordons. Not bad looking and they do go cool with the 1/24 cars.

Thanks for the heads up with 3" Nascar. Do you know how many Gordon's and Johnson's were in each case?

I'm surprised balls57 hasn't made a post about you since he seems to be stalking you.

[ajaxdog]

They come in a sweet case that opens to display and I THINK there was 2 of each in each case and there was 2 cases there. Gordon, Stewart, Rusty, Little E, Bobby Labonte, Johnson, and Dale Jarrett for sure. Theres no pegs in the feet either ( Gordon anyway) so I guess they just stand on the little base.
balls57 can thread bomb all he wants I have NEVER burned anyone and I will not be bullied into something just because he thinks he can. He will get his money as soon as I get my figure.


Thanks for the heads up with 3" Nascar. Do you know how many Gordon's and Johnson's were in each case?

I'm surprised balls57 hasn't made a post about you since he seems to be stalking you.

[sremmaz]

Thread Bombing is against the boards policy - Please stay out of this thread unless you have something to add to it - which is related to the thread.

I have notified Mark and hopefully he will remind you of the policy.

Your not wanted in this thread - so move along.

[x90mattman]

NASCAR: Shane Hmiel's suspension to last until at least 2007

By JIM UTTER

ThatsRacin.com Writer

Former Busch Series driver Shane Hmiel, suspended indefinitely earlier this month for a second violation of NASCAR's substance abuse policy, will not allowed to apply for reinstatement until at least 2007, NASCAR officials said.

Hmiel was suspended indefinitely June 3 after failing a substance-abuse test. He was suspended in September 2003 after failing a substance-abuse test but completed a prescribed rehabilitation program and was reinstated for NASCAR competition in February 2004.

According to a statement released Wednesday, NASCAR will lay out a plan for Hmiel's possible reinstatement in 2007, which will include a rehabilitation program, medical and psychological reviews, as well as frequent testing.

NASCAR's substance abuse policy, first adapted in 1988, provides for testing based on reasonable suspicion.

[sremmaz]

Anyone here get one of the Martins? I wasn't able too.. DAMNIT

[R. Giles]

NASCAR: Shane Hmiel's suspension to last until at least 2007

By JIM UTTER

ThatsRacin.com Writer

Former Busch Series driver Shane Hmiel, suspended indefinitely earlier this month for a second violation of NASCAR's substance abuse policy, will not allowed to apply for reinstatement until at least 2007, NASCAR officials said.

Hmiel was suspended indefinitely June 3 after failing a substance-abuse test. He was suspended in September 2003 after failing a substance-abuse test but completed a prescribed rehabilitation program and was reinstated for NASCAR competition in February 2004.

According to a statement released Wednesday, NASCAR will lay out a plan for Hmiel's possible reinstatement in 2007, which will include a rehabilitation program, medical and psychological reviews, as well as frequent testing.

NASCAR's substance abuse policy, first adapted in 1988, provides for testing based on reasonable suspicion.

Hope they wouldn't reinstate him period.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

:D

Posse

[x90mattman]

Nope, me neither, got off work an hour after they went on sale.

Might have to see if he's signing next week at Daytona, he's my gf's fav driver so i'm sure we'll be hunting around for him.

mattman^


Anyone here get one of the Martins? I wasn't able too.. DAMNIT

[avsfan21]

Anyone here get one of the Martins? I wasn't able too.. DAMNIT

Did Mark change your Avatar again?

[Buick GN]

Later boardies...I'm off to Infineon for the SW Tour and Cup weekend.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[avsfan21]

Later boardies...I'm off to Infineon for the SW Tour and Cup weekend.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Enjoy seeing Jeff Gordon in Victory Lane.

[x90mattman]

Okay guys, i need some help figuring out what some of these abbreveations mean...

Diecast: Dale Earnhardt Jr/2005 Bud #8 Mc 1:24 Hoto
Diecast: Dale Earnhardt Jr/2005 Bud #8 Mc 1:64 Ap On Base
Diecast: Dale Earnhardt Jr/Gmgw 1997 #3 Mc 1/24 Hoto (105071)
Diecast: J Johnson/'03 Lowe's Mc 1/24 Hoto (103577)
Diecast: J Johnson/'04 Lowe's Mc 1/24 Hoto (105427)

I'm thinking Hoto is Hood opens Trunk opens, but i'm not sure what the Mc means. Any Ideas?

Thanks!

[ajaxdog]

Mc is Monte Carlo

[x90mattman]

Thanks, think i'm gonna have to get those!

[R. Giles]

Qualifying is over for this weekends race and Jeff Gordon is on Pole.
1 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy 94.325
Track Record
2 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy 94.165
3 6 Mark Martin Ford 94.012
4 36 Boris Said Chevy 93.975
5 7 Robby Gordon Chevy 93.885
6 97 Kurt Busch Ford 93.690
7 20 Tony Stewart Chevy 93.574
8 11 Terry Labonte Chevy 93.296
9 39 Scott Pruett Dodge 93.269
10 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy 93.184
11 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 93.164
12 01 Joe Nemechek Chevy 93.151
13 5 Kyle Busch Chevy 93.119
14 2 Rusty Wallace Dodge 93.114
15 31 Jeff Burton Chevy 93.051
16 10 Scott Riggs Chevy 93.015
17 42 Jamie McMurray Dodge 93.010
18 25 Brian Vickers Chevy 92.985
19 49 Ken Schrader Dodge 92.806
20 21 Ricky Rudd Ford 92.785
21 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy 92.673
22 33 Brian Simo Chevy 92.648
23 99 Carl Edwards Ford 92.563
24 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 92.289
25 45 Kyle Petty Dodge 92.217
26 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge 92.182
27 22 Scott Wimmer Dodge 92.109
28 87 Chris Cook Chevy 92.107
29 07 Dave Blaney Chevy 92.102
30 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 92.016
31 0 Mike Bliss Chevy 91.969
32 19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge 91.871
33 18 Bobby Labonte Chevy 91.806
34 15 Michael Waltrip Chevy 91.774
35 27 Tom Hubert Ford 91.702
36 41 Casey Mears Dodge 91.668
37 40 Sterling Marlin Dodge 91.608
38 43 Jeff Green Dodge 91.373
39 77 Travis Kvapil Dodge 91.240
40-OP 4 Mike Wallace Chevy 90.157
41-OP 16 Greg Biffle Ford 89.277
42-OP 38 Elliott Sadler Ford 59.373
43 32 Ron Fellows Chevy 91.698
DNQ 02 Brandon Ash Ford 91.660
DNQ 37 Kevin Lepage Dodge 90.399
DNQ 92 Stanton Barrett Chevy 90.251
DNQ 66 John Borneman III Ford 88.685
DNQ 52 Jose Luis Ramirez Dodge 74.941

[x90mattman]

That was an easy 10 points... :-)

[avsfan21]

I wonder who doesnt have Jeff for this weeks race. I was hoping good old big nose Ron would have done a little better. He is going to have a hard time coming from last.

My team is of course Jeff
Said
Robby Gordon
Fellows

There is really no hope for this half of the season for me. Hopefully the second will do better.

[sremmaz]

avs - I am there with you - trying to save some drivers for the end

I am running

Gordo
Said
R. Gordo
Fellows

I am actually taking R. Gordon over M. Martin - hope it pays off. I got the nice qual bonus from Mark - but want to save the start for later in the year as he makes a run for the cup

[ajaxdog]

I got Jeff Gordon, R. Gordon, Said, and Pruett ....
I see Jeff Winning back to back this week and next .... (crosses fingers and toes)

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I have:

Jeffy
Boris
Happy Harvick
and Pruett

:D

Posse

[Leafsfan1967]

I think I'm gonna run the 20 car. Gordon has fugged me two weeks straight! :mad:

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I was thinking about running with Smoke too as everyone else is running Gordon!!

Can't make up any ground if we all have the same drivers!!

:D

Posse

[Leafsfan1967]

I was thinking about running with Smoke too as everyone else is running Gordon!!

Can't make up any ground if we all have the same drivers!!

:D

Posse

If you're running with smoke it could be an engine problem! Could be tires, also! :p

[avsfan21]

avs - I am there with you - trying to save some drivers for the end

I am running

Gordo
Said
R. Gordo
Fellows

I am actually taking R. Gordon over M. Martin - hope it pays off. I got the nice qual bonus from Mark - but want to save the start for later in the year as he makes a run for the cup

That is one reason I dont really care for the yahoo fantasy racing. I hate the you can only use 1 driver for the most of 9 races rule. I want my driver on my team every race. At least with the epsn fantasy racing they give you 100 points to spend on 5 drivers and you have to buy the drivers you can within 100 points. I keep Jeff all season long, even the bad ones, like 2000. Then change the other 4 around him.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I want my driver on my team every race.I keep Jeff all season long,

No wonder your stinking out the joint in this year's pool!!!! ;) ;) ;) :p

LOL

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

If you're running with smoke it could be an engine problem! Could be tires, also! :p

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

No wonder your stinking out the joint in this year's pool!!!! ;) ;) ;) :p

LOL

:D

Posse

Exactly got to stick with him good or bad.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/herbie__fully_loaded/danica_patrick/herbieprea.jpg

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/herbie__fully_loaded/danica_patrick/herbieprea.jpg

:D

Posse

Too bad she basically qualified last for tonights race. Oh well I will still be watching it.

[Bronko]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/herbie__fully_loaded/danica_patrick/herbieprea.jpg

:D

Posse

I've never seen any domestic appliance look like that :D

[R. Giles]

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/herbie__fully_loaded/danica_patrick/herbieprea.jpg

:D

Posse

I'm guessing Castroneves was lapping her tonight, jus probably wished it was a different sort of lapping. :D

[TheEdge32EJ]

Start the race already!

[Bronko]

Double J is dropping like a rock, or Dale Jr's popularity :p.

[avsfan21]

Wow these damn Transmissions are killing my team.

[raven112]

Good luck Bobby !!! :D

http://tinypic.com/6f9gtc.jpg

[Leafsfan1967]

Smoke back to the front! :) I left Rudd, and Wallace on the sidelines for Said, and Robby Gordon! Arrrrrrrrrgh!

[avsfan21]

Smoke back to the front! :) I left Rudd, and Wallace on the sidelines for Said, and Robby Gordon! Arrrrrrrrrgh!

It is better to run the ringers for the road courses because it saves races on the better guys for later.

[Bronko]

And Smoke becomes the 3rd driver to win a race this year.

[avsfan21]

I was just happy that Jessica Alba went with Gordon over Dale Jr. Who cares what the vote says. The whole Nascar's Sexiest Driver was pointless to begin with. Everyone knew the outcome before it started.

[R. Giles]

I think I will take Jessica Alba as nascar's sexist driver.

[Purdue_Pete]

Freakin' Boris Said wiped out Jeff Burton. I know no one cares about Jeff Burton (or pays attention to how well he runs before disaster strikes) but Boris just took Jeff from being in the Nextel Chase to being out...

I can not believe JB's luck!!!

[R. Giles]

Freakin' Boris Said wiped out Jeff Burton. I know no one cares about Jeff Burton (or pays attention to how well he runs before disaster strikes) but Boris just took Jeff from being in the Nextel Chase to being out...

I can not believe JB's luck!!!

I heard it on the radio, too bad for Jeff Burton. I guess Boris needs to still learn that a stock car can't go that deep into a turn like the BMW he's used to driving.

[ajaxdog]

Good move in going with Smoke Jon ... Gordon and Jr. had it rough this week .....

[herdmaster]

I just wanted to give a shout to my favorite driver Ricky Rudd...great race today buddy!!! I knew he wouldn't hold off Stewart, but I figured Kurt would pass him after the late caution but Rooster hung tough to bring it home second....great piece of driving!

[Purdue_Pete]

Rudd almost pulled it off. Great runs by Rudd and Rusty! Congrats to Stewart. The Road Courses really equal the cars out and Tony is an AMAZING talent. IndyCar, NASCAR, USAC, Sports Cars, it doesn't matter...

[Bronko]

Freakin' Boris Said wiped out Jeff Burton. I know no one cares about Jeff Burton (or pays attention to how well he runs before disaster strikes) but Boris just took Jeff from being in the Nextel Chase to being out...!

And RCR's wonderful season continues :rolleyes: Harvick changed engines and still blew up.

[avsfan21]

I thought it was pretty funny when the 4 car took it upon himself to drive off the hood of the 99 car. Just taking pieces along with it.

[sub4]

Good job slip goes out to Mayfield and the 19 team for a top 10 finish today. as always, there was barely any mention of him today. Also, nice runs by both Robert Yates cars, especially Sadler, and for Fellows for finally getting the Tide Ride into the top 10.

[sremmaz]

Man - had I not switched from Smoke to Gordo - I would have done pretty good this week

[Irish_Flyers]

Well.....congrats to any of you Rousch Racing and Greg Biffle fans.
Biffle is now the points leader. He's got a 22-point lead over Jimmie Johnson now.

[Irish_Flyers]

Man - had I not switched from Smoke to Gordo - I would have done pretty good this week
I was thinking the same thing. Usually I go with "the other guy" when it comes to weeks where everyone seems to pick the same guy. This week it was a given that a ton of people would take Gordon. (The way he's raced road courses and dominated Infineon, how could you blame anyone for taking him). But it's usually those weeks where I gamble a little and take another guy, thinking that something like this past weekend would happen.

[Buick GN]

Enjoy seeing Jeff Gordon in Victory Lane.


Maybe next year. :D

[avsfan21]

Well as usual the guy sitting on my bench was the one that won the race. This is about the 6th time this has happened this season. I figure I will start Jeff on my team next week so I can use up my ninth race with him so he will start doing better, only when I start him does he seem to do bad. Of course once I can use him anymore he will start winning races.

[Joe Solak]

How crazy would it be if Gordon and Jr. didn't make the Chase?! I know Gordon's on the bubble and could move back up a lot easier than Jr. can at this point but that would be nuts!

[R. Giles]

If Gordon and Jr. both missed the chase, you would see the rednecks raising cane for nascar to change the point system so that Jr. can be handed a championship.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Good move in going with Smoke Jon ... Gordon and Jr. had it rough this week .....

Thanks!!

I have no problem picking the winner, it is the other guys who screw me up!!!

:D

Posse

[exanimate]

What was up with Tony talking all nice about Gordon at the end of the race the other day? Maybe he is back on his meds?

[ramos]

What was up with Tony talking all nice about Gordon at the end of the race the other day? Maybe he is back on his meds?

Yeah I noticed that. I think they both had a talking to. I think all that goodie goodie stuff goes out the window probably this weekend. I bet each one of them cant wait to leave the other hanging out to dry in the draft.

[avsfan21]

Thanks!!

I have no problem picking the winner, it is the other guys who screw me up!!!

:D

Posse

I dont have a problem picking the winner either, just the fact that they are on my bench when they win. I have had the win of a lot of the races on my team, but they werent starting. It is just too bad you guys cant see my picks until the next week, because all you have to do is start my bench people and you will probably have the winner.

[ajaxdog]

So who do you go with this week ... Gordon or Jr. ??? One of them is gonna rebound big this week.

[avsfan21]

I will probably go with Gordon this week just so I can use his 9th race. Once I cant use him anymore he should start running well.

[Purdue_Pete]

I'll go out a huge weak limb and say that Jamie McMurray wins this weekend. If I had to put money on it though - I'd say Gordon (again at Daytona)

I just hope Jeff Burton sends Boris Said out into the parking lot though... (not that I hold a grudge or anything). :D

[R. Giles]

Bump for race weekend. Let's hope the rain stays away.

[avsfan21]

I just hope that Jeff can get another win for my birthday. This year it will be an early birthday present, last year it was on my birthday.

I just hope that they do race and the rain stays away. Looks like it rained at the Rolex race tonight. Glad Speed is showing a replay of it now. I forgot to set my VCR to tape it while I was at work.

[Bronko]

I just hope that Jeff can get another win for my birthday.

I'll be glad to give you a Kevin Harvick win as a present :p

[ramos]

I'll be glad to give you a Kevin Harvick win as a present :p


I agree. Hes always up front at the end but he never has any help. All the other rcr cars are stinking it up in the back. But I guess that comes with the territory. KH has had too many run ins with people so I could see where they wouldnt want to help him. As a Harvick fan we can always hope :D

[Leafsfan1967]

"Smoke" is on the pole at Daytona!! I got him this weekend! ;) :D

[Bronko]

Something that has always bugged me about the NBC coverage is Wally Dallenbach reminding me of Oswald from the Drew Carey show.

[R. Giles]

Something that has always bugged me about the NBC coverage is Wally Dallenbach reminding me of Oswald from the Drew Carey show.

LOL but now that you mention it I get where you are getting this from.

[Bronko]

LOL but now that you mention it I get where you are getting this from.

Wally Dallenbach:
http://www.buywholesalecheap.com/images/products/categorypictures/dallenbach_wally01.jpghttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/motorsports/1999/raceday/driver_profiles/images/dallenbach.jpg

Diedrich Bader:

http://www.joycine.com/pics/act/a7362.jpghttp://www.wchstv.com/abc/drew/diedrichbader.jpg

Not to mention the erie similarity in the voice.

[R. Giles]

Maybe we should email NBC and get Wally to put Diedrich in the car that Wally goes around the track with.

[avsfan21]

I personally like Wally in the booth over any of the other Nascar commentators. DW would be good, but he tries to hard to come up with all those stupid sayings, then uses them over and over, even after they are old. Benny was good, but I think he is getting too old. He now has trouble figuring out which driver is in which car. He makes many mistakes like this during a race.

[avsfan21]

Wow you guys are slow this week, where is the lineup?

1 20 Tony Stewart Chevy 185.582
2 10 Scott Riggs Chevy 185.418
3 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy 185.273
4 36 Boris Said Chevy 185.204
5 01 Joe Nemechek Chevy 184.904
6 38 Elliott Sadler Ford 184.468
7 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy 184.468
8 11 Jason Leffler Chevy 184.426
9 2 Rusty Wallace Dodge 184.377
10 33 Kerry Earnhardt Chevy 184.237
11 7 Robby Gordon Chevy 184.098
12 32 Bobby Hamilton Jr. Chevy 184.053
13 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 184.045
14 0 Mike Bliss Chevy 184.045
15 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy 183.932
16 25 Brian Vickers Chevy 183.812
17 15 Michael Waltrip Chevy 183.752
18 16 Greg Biffle Ford 183.591
19 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge 183.542
20 09 Johnny Sauter Dodge 183.471
21 92 Hermie Sadler Chevy 183.456
22 18 Bobby Labonte Chevy 183.221
23 6 Mark Martin Ford 183.150
24 37 Kevin Lepage Dodge 183.094
25 77 Travis Kvapil # Dodge 183.057
26 22 Scott Wimmer Dodge 183.050
27 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 183.031
28 97 Kurt Busch Ford 182.968
29 41 Casey Mears Dodge 182.879
30 07 Dave Blaney Chevy 182.723
31 19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge 182.667
32 5 Kyle Busch # Chevy 182.571
33 42 Jamie McMurray Dodge 182.537
34 99 Carl Edwards Ford 182.039
35 21 Ricky Rudd Ford 181.925
36 45 Kyle Petty Dodge 181.759
37 40 Sterling Marlin Dodge 181.558
38 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 181.437
39 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy 181.148
40 49 Ken Schrader Dodge 181.068
41 43 Jeff Green Dodge 180.603
42-OP 31 Jeff Burton Chevy 180.267
43 4 Mike Wallace Chevy 183.024
DNQ 66 Mike Garvey # Ford 182.800
DNQ 00 Kenny Wallace Dodge 182.116
WD 73 Dan Pardus Chevy x
WD 89 Morgan Shepherd Dodge x

[avsfan21]

I think Dale Jr just needs to move on from DEI, there are some serious issues there. It use to be the whole team was slow, now it is just him.

[Leafsfan1967]

I'll go out a huge weak limb and say that Jamie McMurray wins this weekend. If I had to put money on it though - I'd say Gordon (again at Daytona)

I just hope Jeff Burton sends Boris Said out into the parking lot though... (not that I hold a grudge or anything). :D

Well, he'll have to pass 37 cars just to get to him! :D Who to start??? Hmmmm! :confused:

[Leafsfan1967]

I think Dale Jr just needs to move on from DEI, there are some serious issues there. It use to be the whole team was slow, now it is just him.

I just can't see him going anywhere! I'll bet they bring in a top notch crew chief next year! ;)

[Leafsfan1967]

Get into an argument with a fan, and then win the pole at Daytona! LOL!! Smoke hasn't changed a bit! :rolleyes:



http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/cup/07/01/tstewart_quals/stewart_pole_xl.jpg

[Dirty Mo Posse]

:D

Posse

[Leafsfan1967]

Won't be long now! :D Not going with Smoke today! I have a gut feeling he will have a bad day. ;)

Just watching Pink Floyd live from London! Sweet!!! :eek: I'm about 3 miles from the Barrie Live 8, but am watching at home! :( My daughter got 2 free tickets, but we gave them away!


http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/images/07/02/stewart_early_t1.jpg (http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/live/)

[Leafsfan1967]

Rain, Rain go away! :mad:

[exanimate]

I forgot all about Live 8. No bands that I care about are playing anyway. Wish I had some of that rain here that they have in Fla, my lawn and garden are dry as hell.

[Leafsfan1967]

Sad to say, I'm starting Kurt Bouche! :rolleyes: :D Can't say the D word! :eek:

[DMM77]

Rain, Rain go away! :mad:

I can't believe it's still raining there. I live less than an hour away and it has'nt rained here since early this afternoon.

[Leafsfan1967]

I can't believe it's still raining there. I live less than an hour away and it has'nt rained here since early this afternoon.

Drying the track now! Won't be long! :D

[R. Giles]

The race will start between 9:30 - 9:45 they hope.

[exanimate]

I will be lucky to make it to the end of the race. I am worn out. I started vacation today, and it won't be much of a vacation. Lots of work on the house for a week.

[DMM77]

That sounds like one of my vacations.

[Leafsfan1967]

I will be lucky to make it to the end of the race. I am worn out. I started vacation today, and it won't be much of a vacation. Lots of work on the house for a week.

You can do it Jason! I'll be wasted all day at work tomorrow! :(

[exanimate]

I haven't had to work a weekend in over 2 years now. I can't imagine having to now.

[Leafsfan1967]

What ever happened to the 11am start to this race??? I guess they got lights, and that's all she wrote! :confused:

[TG24]

Stupid rain! Damn you mother nature, damn you to hell! Go 24!

[Leafsfan1967]

I haven't had to work a weekend in over 2 years now. I can't imagine having to now.

I don't usually either, but we are so busy, I have no choice. :( Hired another guy, so that should change real soon! ;)

[Leafsfan1967]

Not much rubber on the track, so I'll bet a bunch of teams will be out to lunch on handling at the start! :eek:

[exanimate]

That was a prett cool story about Jimmie buying that motor on Ebay.

[Leafsfan1967]

That was a prett cool story about Jimmie buying that motor on Ebay.

Yeah! Should be a cool memory car! :)

[Leafsfan1967]

Man, those restrictor plates have sure slowed down the speed of the cars! :D They're only doing 60MPH???? :confused: :D Wonder if Stewart gets credit for leading those laps?? I don't think he should!

[exanimate]

I really wish they would have just moved this race to tommorrow during the day. I won't even make it through the first 50 laps.

[Leafsfan1967]

Son of a beach!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Joe Solak]

What a bad break for some of these guys......feel bad for Martin

[Leafsfan1967]

As far as I'm concerned, another black mark for Nascar! Running those laps at the start, no rubber on the track, blah, blah blah! Should of been a mandatory caution at lap 20-25. Guys running out of fuel cause the pits are closed! :rolleyes: :mad: :mad: This race should of been run tomorrow! Fug me!!! :rolleyes:

[Joe Solak]

I can't believe they waited almost 4 hrs to get this race in tonight either......this could be a very UGLY race........

[R. Giles]

Already is a ugly race with people running on fumes and then an accident for a driver coming into the pits.

[avsfan21]

I have always hated those Green/Yellow starts. To me they are pointless. Either start the race or continue running pace laps. Dont count the pace laps as part of the race. That junk is just stupid.

[Joe Solak]

Already is a ugly race with people running on fumes and then an accident for a driver coming into the pits.
You're right, I guess I mean I hope it doesn't get UGLIER.........

[Leafsfan1967]

Not as ugly as I am right now! :mad: Damn you Jeff Gordon! :D

[avsfan21]

What did Jeff Gordon do?

Yes Biffle hit:) , but Mikey is on my team :(

[Leafsfan1967]

What did Jeff Gordon do?

Yes Biffle hit:) , but Mikey is on my team :(

Nothing! :D Just wanted to bug you! ;) I think it was him that checked up to go to the pits, but the accident was not his fault! This race is just gonna be a waste of time! I knew that from the start! :rolleyes:

[Joe Solak]

Gordon "started" the wreck but he did signal it's just too damn hard to see that behind him. They should have just called it a night. Tough break a few minutes ago for Mikey...

[avsfan21]

Biffle to the Garage. This could be a good points night.

[avsfan21]

Well off topic from the Nascar race, but How about Danica getting her first Pole today. Not to shabby if I say so myself.

[R. Giles]

Definitely will watch the IRL race to see how Danica does. Rahal racing rocked at Kansas last year and doing it again this year.

[VH Fan]

Why is Bill Weber to lead "play by play" announcer now instead of Bestwick?? I don't like him calling the race. Half the time he says nothing, and he's too robot sounding IMO.

[avsfan21]

Definitely will watch the IRL race to see how Danica does. Rahal racing rocked at Kansas last year and doing it again this year.

I wonder if they have enough Toyota Ads in that shot in your sig?

I will be watching the IRL race also. Since I will tape the F1 race I can watch that anytime.

[Leafsfan1967]

I need something to happen to Stewart, or I'm screwed in the fantasy league this week.:(

[R. Giles]

Boris Said just had a nice save through the wet grass back onto the pavement.

[R. Giles]

I wonder if they have enough Toyota Ads in that shot in your sig?

I will be watching the IRL race also. Since I will tape the F1 race I can watch that anytime.

Thats what I find funny about that shot both Toyotas in the shot with ads. The IRL race doesn't start until 3 so after the replay of the F1 race.

[avsfan21]

Well I had 4th and 7th, then two wrecks. So looks like I didnt do so hot with my team yet again this week.

[Joe Solak]

Stewart dominated tonight, great race. Good finish for Jr. and Gordon too.

[Joe Solak]

Best quote...Tony Stewart being interviewed after the win....."I'm too fat to be climbing fences!"

[Joe Solak]

Unofficial standings after Pepsi 400..............


Rank +/- Driver Points Behind Starts Poles Wins Top 5 Top 10
1 +1 Jimmie Johnson 2378 Leader 17 0 2 7 12
2 -1 Greg Biffle 2305 -73 17 0 5 6 10
3 +1 Tony Stewart 2242 -136 17 1 2 6 9
4 -1 Elliott Sadler 2178 -200 17 1 0 1 9
5 +1 Rusty Wallace 2173 -205 17 0 0 4 9
6 +1 Ryan Newman 2115 -263 17 5 0 4 8
7 +3 Jamie McMurray 2093 -285 17 0 0 4 7
8 -3 Mark Martin 2068 -310 17 0 0 5 8
9 -1 Kurt Busch 2030 -348 17 0 1 5 8
10 +2 Dale Jarrett 2030 -348 17 1 0 3 5
11 -- Jeremy Mayfield 2029 -349 17 0 0 2 3
12 -3 Carl Edwards 2027 -351 17 0 2 5 7
13 +1 Jeff Gordon 1982 -396 17 2 3 5 7
--------------------------CUT OFF FOR THE CHASE--------------------------------------
14 -1 Kevin Harvick 1946 -432 17 1 1 3 5
15 +1 Jeff Burton 1891 -487 17 0 0 1 2
16 +2 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 1872 -506 17 0 0 4 6
17 -2 Michael Waltrip 1870 -508 17 1 0 3 7
18 -1 Joe Nemechek 1840 -538 17 0 0 1 4
19 +1 Matt Kenseth 1790 -588 17 0 0 1 4
20 -1 Kyle Busch* 1765 -613 17 1 0 4 6
21 -- Kasey Kahne 1760 -618 17 2 1 4 4
22 +1 Brian Vickers 1621 -757 17 0 0 2 4
23 +1 Sterling Marlin 1621 -757 17 0 0 1 3
24 -2 Scott Riggs 1587 -791 17 1 0 1 3
25 +1 Bobby Labonte 1565 -813 17 0 0 1 3
26 +2 Ken Schrader 1554 -824 17 0 0 0 3
27 -- Dave Blaney 1548 -830 17 0 0 0 1
28 -3 Casey Mears 1545 -833 17 0 0 1 2
29 +1 Ricky Rudd 1534 -844 17 0 0 1 3
30 -1 Travis Kvapil* 1507 -871 17 0 0 0 1
31 +1 Kyle Petty 1507 -871 17 0 0 0 1
32 +1 Mike Bliss 1496 -882 17 0 0 0 0
33 -2 Jeff Green 1470 -908 17 0 0 0 0
34 -- Scott Wimmer 1359 -1019 17 0 0 0 0
35 -- Mike Wallace 1298 -1080 16 0 0 0 1
36 -- Jason Leffler 1184 -1194 15 0 0 0 0
37 -- Bobby Hamilton Jr. 1017 -1361 15 0 0 0 0
38 -- Robby Gordon 907 -1471 13 0 0 0 0
39 -- Kevin Lepage 891 -1487 11 0 0 0 1

40 +1 Hermie Sadler 540 -1838 9 0 0 0 0
41 +1 Johnny Sauter 528 -1850 7 0 0 0 1
42 -2 Terry Labonte 520 -1858 6 0 0 0 0
43 +1 Boris Said 413 -1965 5 0 0 0 0
44 -1 Bill Elliott 361 -2017 5 0 0 0 0
45 -- Martin Truex Jr. 312 -2066 3 0 0 0 1
46 -- Mike Garvey* 256 -2122 5 0 0 0 0
47 -- Stanton Barrett* 244 -2134 4 0 0 0 0
48 -- John Andretti 225 -2153 3 0 0 0 0
49 -- Jimmy Spencer 213 -2165 3 0 0 0 0
50 -- Mike Skinner 211 -2167 4 0 0 0 0
51 +4 Kerry Earnhardt 149 -2229 2 0 0 0 0
52 -1 Ron Fellows 142 -2236 1 0 0 0 1
53 -1 Brian Simo 134 -2244 1 0 0 0 1
54 -1 Randy LaJoie 134 -2244 3 0 0 0 0
55 -1 Morgan Shepherd 122 -2256 3 0 0 0 0
56 -- Carl Long 108 -2270 4 0 0 0 0
57 -- Kenny Wallace 100 -2278 2 0 0 0 0
58 -- Clint Bowyer 97 -2281 1 0 0 0 0
59 -- Chris Cook 79 -2299 1 0 0 0 0
60 -- Shane Hmiel 77 -2301 2 0 0 0 0
61 -- Scott Pruett 70 -2308 1 0 0 0 0
62 -- Jeff Fuller 68 -2310 2 0 0 0 0
63 -- Eric McClure* 67 -2311 1 0 0 0 0
64 -- P.J. Jones 67 -2311 1 0 0 0 0
65 -- Tony Raines 58 -2320 1 0 0 0 0
66 -- Stuart Kirby 37 -2341 1 0 0 0 0
67 -- Greg Sacks 34 -2344 1 0 0 0 0
68 -- Tom Hubert 34 -2344 1 0 0 0 0

[avsfan21]

Thats what I find funny about that shot both Toyotas in the shot with ads. The IRL race doesn't start until 3 so after the replay of the F1 race.

The IRL race is on at 1 est, not 3 so it will be on during the F1 replay.

[Bronko]

Man, I just love RCR :rolleyes: What other company could have 3 cars in the top 10 all day and end up with 2 wrecking each other and the 3rd somehow loosing a lap after restarting up front in the last restart. At least my local team finished well with Mike Wallace.

[ajaxdog]

Well I had 4th and 7th, then two wrecks. So looks like I didnt do so hot with my team yet again this week.

Man Waltrip plows into Front Row Joe and Sadler bites me in the butt again .... Harvick ends up 24th .... falling apart!:(

[exanimate]

I am sitting here watching the IRL race on ESPN, which I never do. Man I hope that when the bidding for Nascar comes back up, that ESPN gets the rights again. I love the side by side action. The commercial with the live race still going on beside it is awesome.

[R. Giles]

I know the side by side is awesome. It was a good race with a close finish and Patrick finished 4th I believe.

[avsfan21]

Patrick was 9th. I was hoping that Vitor would pull it off in the end. I guess the Rahel boys forgot something about a race being run after qualifying.

[R. Giles]

The IRL needs to put more regulations on Andretti Green Racing. They are always up front and winning the races.

[avsfan21]

I am sitting here watching the IRL race on ESPN, which I never do. Man I hope that when the bidding for Nascar comes back up, that ESPN gets the rights again. I love the side by side action. The commercial with the live race still going on beside it is awesome.

What do you know you are out of the cellar in the nascar league. Nice work moved up one spot.

[exanimate]

I saw that, but didn't think it was worth bragging about. I really wasn't gonna mention it to you. BTW any of you guys going to the All Star fanfest to get figs?

[Leafsfan1967]

Geez, I had hi-score for the week! :eek: Would of been better had I not changed Stewart on Friday for Busch! :mad: I wanted Stewart, but if you want to gain on the guys in front of you, you need to start different guys than them! Busch was running 11th when that stupid Jeff Gordon caused that wreck! :p :D ;) :D

[Sorrels]

hey Troy, that card has become my good luck charm...that's back-to-back top 5 finishes for DJ!!! :D

[Leafsfan1967]

hey Troy, that card has become my good luck charm...that's back-to-back top 5 finishes for DJ!!! :D

Sweet! I had both him, and Rusty yesterday! :D Should of stayed with Smoke, though! I've done that so many times this year at the last minute, and been wrong! :o

[sremmaz]

Yeah - wrecks ruined me. I was doing good until 20 to go

Oh well... I am heading up to Chicagoland this week to watch the race for my birthday - so that should be fun. Hopefully JR can pull out a good performance

[R. Giles]

Oh well... I am heading up to Chicagoland this week to watch the race for my birthday - so that should be fun. Hopefully JR can pull out a good performance

Have fun in Chicago, don't get burned to much in the heat and sun.

[Leafsfan1967]

Yeah - wrecks ruined me. I was doing good until 20 to go

Oh well... I am heading up to Chicagoland this week to watch the race for my birthday - so that should be fun. Hopefully JR can pull out a good performance

Have a blast Paul! You are a lucky dog! ;)

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Oh well... I am heading up to Chicagoland this week to watch the race for my birthday - so that should be fun. Hopefully JR can pull out a good performance

Amen!!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Have fun Paul. Just dont get too upset in race day traffic.

[sremmaz]

Well it doesnt look like we are going now :(

Damn place only sells track packages - meaning I have to buy tickets to Saturday/Sunday and some stupid Arca Crap in September. They don't sell single race tickets... What a pisser

[Sinsightful]

Well it doesnt look like we are going now :(

Damn place only sells track packages - meaning I have to buy tickets to Saturday/Sunday and some stupid Arca Crap in September. They don't sell single race tickets... What a pisser

That's the way of the future now. This way, the tracks can sell out all of their races, not just the Nascar dates. But as for the ARCA series, those are much better races than the Busch or IRL dates. Craftsmen Truck series is still second best behind Nascar Cup races though.
As for tickets, you are obviously pretty close to the track, so if you wanted, you can go up on Saturday or Sunday morning to scalp tickets........this close to the race, you can usually get a decent deal without getting ripped off.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

That sucks Paul!!! :(

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

McMurray to drive No. 6 car in 2007!!!


Jamie to leave Gannasi and join Rousch to take over Martin's ride!

:D

Posse

[exanimate]

My step dad will love this move. He has been holding out on picking a new driver until he saw who was gonna be in the 6 car. He is obviously a huge Martin fan, but after we saw McMurray win his first cup race at Charlotte, he has liked him.

[Bronko]

I'm not necessarily a McMurray hater, but he hasn't done anything to impress me. His only win came in Sterling Marlin's car with Marlin's team 3 years and 94 races ago.

[TheRedOx]

Any boardies going to attend qualifying tomorrow in Joliet? Went last year and had a great time so I'll be there all day tomorrow. To me it's just as cool as going to the actual races, you see practices and qualifying all day, it's cheap ($15, those track-packs are expensive),and it's not crowded (you can sit wherever you wish). I'd rather stay home on Sunday and watch the race in HD. ;)

[avsfan21]

You guys have got to see Atlanta Motor Speedway. The place is almost destoried. The county that myself and R. Giles lives in along with the speedway was hit hard with weather last night. The Speedway and the airport next door had the most damage that I have seen so far. The neighborhood that is infront of my has a lot of homes missing roofs. My house was pretty lucky that we only lost two shutters on the front of the house. Although we didnt have power for about 9 hours last night. Power went went out about 9:30ish at night and didnt come back up until 6ish in the morning. The next neighbors lost a tree in their front yard, snapped in half by the wind. On my way to work today the roads were just covered with leaves and pine needles with parts of trees laying on the side of the road. Pretty crazy stuff.

http://www.atlantamotorspeedway.com/images/tornado.jpg

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/4694415/detail.html

[R. Giles]

Yeah Avs. you were in the middle of the storm. My house just got alot of rain plus thunder and lightning. No power outage and most of the bad stuff stayed to the north of my house. About 9 miles to the west was hit so was 9 miles to north with damage. Luckily I got out of work before the bad stuff hit up there.

[avsfan21]

Man the lightning was intense. I was like constant flashing. It almost looked like the grandstands on the pace laps of a start of a night race in Cup. It was a pretty good show until the what appeared to be tornado seemed to come near our house.

[R. Giles]

Rumble Strips gone? hearing that Pocono Raceway has removed the rumble strips in the corners, hoping that will allow the tire problem that happened in June will not occur again. No word if the patch in the tunnel turn was fixed.

Who knows if this will fix the goodyear tire problem.

[R. Giles]

Did anyone see the Big Break All-star challenge on the Golf Channel Tuesday night. It had Jamie McMurray, Dale Jarrett, Michael Waltrip, Rusty Wallace and Elliott Sadler. It was a pretty funny show with just six guys going for 5,000 dollars to the charity of their choice. The first challenge was to hit balls through glass. Rusty Wallace gets up there and says "I'm going for the 88." Then Michael Waltrip goes "You would probably do better if a 12 was up there." Took them a minute to calm down from laughing.

[sremmaz]

Wow - I heard about the speedway on the news here. Didn't realize you guys were soo close

[Joe9948]

Just got back from Joliet FanFest 05 and picked up the following autographs:

Brent Sherman
Kerry Earnhardt
Jeff Hammond
Larry McReynolds
Casey Mears
Sterling Marlin
Joe Nemechek
Greg Biffle
Robby Gordon
:) :) :) :) :)
Kind of crowded for a Thursday night but well worth the time.

[R. Giles]

Wow - I heard about the speedway on the news here. Didn't realize you guys were soo close

Yeah it's about 40 min. from my house.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Bump Draft!!

:D

Posse

[R. Giles]

Jimmie Johnson won the pole for the race this weekend.

1 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy 188.147
2 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 188.055
3 41 Casey Mears Dodge 187.676
4 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 187.396
5 25 Brian Vickers Chevy 187.324
6 16 Greg Biffle Ford 187.065
7 10 Scott Riggs Chevy 186.858
8 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 186.664
9 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy 186.393
10 07 Dave Blaney Chevy 186.278
11 0 Mike Bliss Chevy 186.194
12 7 Robby Gordon Chevy 186.181
13 20 J.J. Yeley Chevy 186.168
14 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy 186.156
15 01 Joe Nemechek Chevy 186.066
16 77 Travis Kvapil # Dodge 185.906
17 32 Bobby Hamilton Jr. Chevy 185.822
18 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge 185.765
19 97 Kurt Busch Ford 185.720
20 6 Mark Martin Ford 185.554
21 99 Carl Edwards Ford 185.471
22 19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge 185.382
23 38 Elliott Sadler Ford 185.350
24 5 Kyle Busch # Chevy 185.242
25 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy 184.780
26 18 Bobby Labonte Chevy 184.647
27 15 Michael Waltrip Chevy 184.596
28 21 Ricky Rudd Ford 184.508
29 45 Kyle Petty Dodge 184.470
30 22 Scott Wimmer Dodge 184.370
31 39 David Stremme Dodge 184.099
32 51 Stuart Kirby Chevy 184.030
33 2 Rusty Wallace Dodge 183.949
34 44 Terry Labonte Chevy 183.811
35 31 Jeff Burton Chevy 183.536
36 42 Jamie McMurray Dodge 183.430
37 00 Carl Long Dodge 183.175
38 40 Sterling Marlin Dodge 183.063
39 37 Kevin Lepage Dodge 182.766
40 43 Jeff Green Dodge 182.648
41 49 Ken Schrader Dodge 182.223
42-OP 4 Mike Wallace Chevy 178.696
43 11 Jason Leffler Chevy 181.818

[Leafsfan1967]

Holy chit!! :eek: This will get huge bucks! ;) Hopefully, I didn't suck in Paul on this! :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44905&item=5215689367&rd


http://i17.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/6c/0a/6a_1_b.JPG

[sremmaz]

Nah - I am not into Jersey style cards at all

[Leafsfan1967]

Happy Birthday Paul! ;)


Here's one for Jason! Sell your clubs pal! :D This is an awesome card!! :eek:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98021&item=5217078921&rd=1


http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/7a/7f/a0_1_b.JPG

[exanimate]

Holy crap! That is an awesome card. Not cool enough to get me to sell my clubs though. That would be a nice card to own though.

Happy Bday Paul. What are ya now 42? :D



Happy Birthday Paul! ;)


Here's one for Jason! Sell your clubs pal! :D This is an awesome card!! :eek:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98021&item=5217078921&rd=1


http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/7a/7f/a0_1_b.JPG

[sremmaz]

Thanks for the b-day wishes guys.

[DMM77]

Wow, awesome Gordon/Johnson card!:eek::eek:

[DMM77]

It should be a good Busch race today with about 17 "Buschwackers". Who is everyone taking in the Nextel series tomorrow? I think I'm going with Kevin Harvick.

[exanimate]

I took the 48. Left Stewart on the Bench. I almost started Stewart because he has been so hot.
I have Harvick, Jarrett, and Nemecheck as well.

[deogg]

McMurray to drive No. 6 car in 2007!!!


Jamie to leave Gannasi and join Rousch to take over Martin's ride!

:D

Posse

And as of right now, Jamie McMurray has at least one new fan :D

[Leafsfan1967]

I benched Stewart as well, because who knows what shape he'll be in from the crash? He'll be starting at the back! I will be using Newman I guess! :confused: Only picked him for qualifying, but he was 4th fastest in practice, so what the hay! Undecided on the other 3. Prolly use Nemechek, and maybe Edwards, and Biffle! Don't want to burn the 16 car so early in the fantasy season, though. :(

[Bronko]

Harvick wins and Greg Sniffle shows his true colors what a great day :D:D

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Happy B-Day Paul!!!

:D

Posse

[Bronko]

Greg Biffle's comments about the race:

"I think Kevin Harvick is a chicken. I think he's a punk and I wish he was sitting right here beside me, if you want to know how I really feel, I'd get points taken away."

Harvick's rebuttal:

"Sounds to me like he's showing a lot of prima donna attitude and he needs to go sit in his motorhome with his girlfriend because he's got a lot more to lose than I do, if he wants to step outside and take care of it, we can, but I didn't know there was an issue. As far as I'm concerned he can sit out there and whine all he wants."

Apparently Greg doesn't understand the strategy that you do everything you can to win and not letting good cars get their laps back helps you do that. Greg needs to let this 10 year feud with Harvick drop before Harvick has to choke him again :p

[sremmaz]

The coolest thing happened at dinner tonight.

I went to Golden Corral with some friends and as we were getting ready to leave this older gentleman sitting a few tables away stops us and says "Are you leaving" and we say yes and he says hold on a minute my wife wants to give you something. Looking around to see if he was maybe talking to one of my friends I say OK - and his wife walks up and takes off one of those "Livestrong" style bands - this one is black though - and says "this is One of the "Continue the Legend" bands from the Earnhard foundation - and I noticed your Dale Jr shirt and thought you might want it."
They apparently went to the Busch race today and got it there.

Very cool - and they didn't even know it was my birthday.

[R. Giles]

The coolest thing happened at dinner tonight.

I went to Golden Corral with some friends and as we were getting ready to leave this older gentleman sitting a few tables away stops us and says "Are you leaving" and we say yes and he says hold on a minute my wife wants to give you something. Looking around to see if he was maybe talking to one of my friends I say OK - and his wife walks up and takes off one of those "Livestrong" style bands - this one is black though - and says "this is One of the "Continue the Legend" bands from the Earnhard foundation - and I noticed your Dale Jr shirt and thought you might want it."
They apparently went to the Busch race today and got it there.

Very cool - and they didn't even know it was my birthday.

Pretty cool what they did.

[R. Giles]

Greg Biffle's comments about the race:

"I think Kevin Harvick is a chicken. I think he's a punk and I wish he was sitting right here beside me, if you want to know how I really feel, I'd get points taken away."

Harvick's rebuttal:

"Sounds to me like he's showing a lot of prima donna attitude and he needs to go sit in his motorhome with his girlfriend because he's got a lot more to lose than I do, if he wants to step outside and take care of it, we can, but I didn't know there was an issue. As far as I'm concerned he can sit out there and whine all he wants."

Apparently Greg doesn't understand the strategy that you do everything you can to win and not letting good cars get their laps back helps you do that. Greg needs to let this 10 year feud with Harvick drop before Harvick has to choke him again :p

Missed the Busch race due to work but sounds like the end was exciting. From the comments it looks like Bifle is mad because Harvick didn't help him. Man Bifle still needs to learn that you race to get the lap back not be handed to you, or become the first car a lap down and get it back that way with a caution.

[Bronko]

Missed the Busch race due to work but sounds like the end was exciting. From the comments it looks like Bifle is mad because Harvick didn't help him. Man Bifle still needs to learn that you race to get the lap back not be handed to you, or become the first car a lap down and get it back that way with a caution.

Well the incident happened during green flag pit stops. Everyone but Reed Sorenson had pitted, meaning only one car on the lead lap. As the leaders began to catch up and get their laps back, Harvick had caught Sorenson but seemed like he just rode behind him as the first lap down car. Biffle was behind Harvick, so if a caution had come out Harvick would be back on the lead lap anyway. Whereas if Kevin passed him for his lap, Biffle would be the lucky dog.

I thought it was a pretty sound move. Biffle had a good car, so why not try to keep him a lap down to better improve your own chance of winning?

[R. Giles]

Well the incident happened during green flag pit stops. Everyone but Reed Sorenson had pitted, meaning only one car on the lead lap. As the leaders began to catch up and get their laps back, Harvick had caught Sorenson but seemed like he just rode behind him as the first lap down car. Biffle was behind Harvick, so if a caution had come out Harvick would be back on the lead lap anyway. Whereas if Kevin passed him for his lap, Biffle would be the lucky dog.

I thought it was a pretty sound move. Biffle had a good car, so why not try to keep him a lap down to better improve your own chance of winning?

Nothing wrong with what Harvick did. Biffle just whining over something that all driver's do.

[Sinsightful]

Greg needs to let this 10 year feud with Harvick drop before Harvick has to choke him again :p

I never knew anything about a feud. Care to elaborate? :confused:

[Sinsightful]

and his wife walks up and takes off one of those "Livestrong" style bands - this one is black though - and says "this is One of the "Continue the Legend" bands from the Earnhard foundation - and I noticed your Dale Jr shirt and thought you might want it."
They apparently went to the Busch race today and got it there.

Very cool - and they didn't even know it was my birthday.

yeh, you can get them at the DaleEarnhardt Foundation website as well for $3 for a three-pack plus shipping. They just came out last week. Very cool gesture though, thats why Nascar fans are better than any other. :)

[Bronko]

I never knew anything about a feud. Care to elaborate? :confused:

Well, this picture says a lot.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/nylisa20/Harvickmad2.jpg

[Leafsfan1967]

Dang, I can't get a break with my picks! Edwards running strong in the top 5, and poof into the wall! :mad: Looks like another week with tire issues! Goodyear better get it right fast! These guys are driving within an inch of their lifes at all times! This is nuts! :rolleyes:

[exanimate]

He looks like he is about to give him a kiss.

Well, this picture says a lot.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/nylisa20/Harvickmad2.jpg

[R. Giles]

Dang, I can't get a break with my picks! Edwards running strong in the top 5, and poof into the wall! :mad: Looks like another week with tire issues! Goodyear better get it right fast! These guys are driving within an inch of their lifes at all times! This is nuts! :rolleyes:

Yeah Goodyear needs to get better, Edwards blistered tires during practice and then one blows. Jeff Burton just had a left rear flat but don't know if it blew or ran over something.

[Leafsfan1967]

Holy chit! :eek: Did you guys see the Atlanta Motor Speedway? It was hit by a tornado! First I heard of this! :eek: Wow! :eek:

[Leafsfan1967]

Yeah Goodyear needs to get better, Edwards blistered tires during practice and then one blows. Jeff Burton just had a left rear flat but don't know if it blew or ran over something.

I think he bumped with the 42 car, maybe knocked off a valve stem!

[R. Giles]

Yeah hit on Wednesday night, when Tropical Storm Cindy moved through the Atlanta area. Costing about 25 to 40 million to repair all the damage done.

[exanimate]

You didn't hear Troy? You not paying attention to this thread? :D

[Leafsfan1967]

You didn't hear Troy? You not paying attention to this thread? :D

No I didn't! Been busy being a grampa! :o ;) :p


http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/images/07/10/cuprace3.jpg (http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/live)

[Leafsfan1967]

WOW!!!!!!!!!

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/cup/07/07/atlanta_stormdamage.ap/atlanta2_ap.jpg

[R. Giles]

Dave Blaney right front flat tire.

[R. Giles]

No I didn't! Been busy being a grampa! :o ;) :p


http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/images/07/10/cuprace3.jpg (http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/live)

Carl was pretty funny with that car just drove through the grass and parked the wrong way in his pit.

[exanimate]

You being a grandpa is funner anyway.

[x90mattman]

Hey gang, back from my soggy vacation to Daytona last week...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/x90mattman/100_0741.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/x90mattman/100_0740.jpg

Had a blast though, had a rough start with the tire blowing on my parents car dolly that they were pulling behind the RV to pick us up. So, me and my gf got to know the staff at the Orlando Sanford airport for 6 hours last wed before they were able to get it repaired then get to us to head on to Daytona. Was able to get Casey Mears, Boris Said and Travis Kvapil's autographs in person and grabbed a pair of Kevin Harvick auto'd hero cards from the chevy test drive (corvettes rock!).

Had a rough week in the fantasy league as everybody else seems to be having as well. Hopefully this week will be better.

On a side note, I wish there was a way to get a feed of the race on tv without any anouncers whatsoever. I would love a PPV channel that had the same coverage and graphics (sans advertising) but nothing but the engines, kinda like the Indemand for the incars. I couldn't stand BP last year and this year adding in bill weber and i'm ready to watch the race on Mute. The main thing I hate is that they sound like there commentating it for the radio, at the beggining of the race "biffle to the oustide passing whoever it was" Well, last time I checked, I'm WATCHING the race, not listening to it so I can see what your talking about. And BP only seems to repeat what the other guys say.

And since i'm talking about broadcasting, if any of you ever go to the race and have scanners, tune into the MRN frequency, your listening to the live feed so when they cut for the radio stations to go to commercial, you still get to here the crew talk to each other and its pretty entertaining listening to all of them harrass each other and have a good time.

[exanimate]

My buddy always mutes the races, and listens to the radio feed while watching.

[Bronko]

grabbed a pair of Kevin Harvick auto'd hero cards from the chevy test drive (corvettes rock!).

Congrats bud, you know who the real talent is :D

[Leafsfan1967]

My buddy always mutes the races, and listens to the radio feed while watching.

MRN!!!! ;)

[x90mattman]

Mikey!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/images/07/10/cuprace7.jpg

Another week of Fantasy League in the crapper.

[x90mattman]

Anybody else just see NBC go to commercial break? They had up a graphic with the heads of the top 5 guys but Jr. Head was a no show! Was just the little ring that they put at the bottom to transition the cut off, Too funny...

[x90mattman]

Now Gordon! Why did I not get a computer to change my Daytona picks....WHY!?!

[Leafsfan1967]

2 to go! can Dale Jr hold on! Be a nice belated birthday present for Paul! :eek:

[Leafsfan1967]

Jr Wins!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bronko]

As much as I'm happy for the Jr win, Harvick's luck continues to piss me off :mad:

[x90mattman]

WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/races/lapbylap/07/10/chicago/junior_t1.jpg

[x90mattman]

Bittersweet day.. My guy gets back to victory lane, yet the guys on my fantasy team end up 16 23 31 35.

[exanimate]

Somewhere Posse sheds a tear.

[Joe Solak]

WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/races/lapbylap/07/10/chicago/junior_t1.jpg
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Leafsfan1967]

I hear you Matt! I had a real bad day after a whole lot of early race promise! :( I am stoked that Rusty is up to 4th in points, and Mark is now 6th! I'm very happy about that! ;)

[IIIBishopIII]

Great job Dale, we are now only 100+ out of 10th we can make the chase. Keep your head up now all the other drivers better watch out.

[R. Giles]

Stupid Biffle had a chance to wreck Jr. but didn't. Now on to NH, for a snooze fest.

[appst70bull]

I only saw like the last 20 laps of the race, but did see #8 winning it all. That was a big win for him and his team.

[Leafsfan1967]

I only saw like the last 20 laps of the race, but did see #8 winning it all. That was a big win for him and his team.

They sure needed it! That's foe show! ;)

[x90mattman]

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/cup/07/10/dearnhardt.chicago.ap.ap/junior_tall_t1.jpg

http://www.thatsracin.com/images/thatsracin/thatsracin/12101/146446179990.jpg

WWWOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! (again :D )

[avsfan21]

Yeah I have been cut off of the racing world out here. God I having no speed channel just kills your racing knowledge. I found out who won the F1 race earlier today when it was on the bottom line on espn2, but had no idea where anyone else finished, not even Kimi. Thank god for the internet.

Missed the cup race today doing the family thing. I guess I should be happy about that actually. I would have been pissed. Jeff Gordon couldnt even buy a finish at this point. If he didnt have bad luck this year he wouldnt have any at all.

On a side note on the way up to Maryland from Georgia, we stopped off at Charlotte and went to the Hendrick shop. Man it has changed since the last time I have been there. The have some nice cars in there little museum. I was pretty excited about that part of the trip.

[R. Giles]

Yeah Gordon getting taken out by Mike Bliss sealed Gordon's fate. Fate I mean Wrigley Field cursed him for his insult of the field or at least that's what ESPN thinks.

[Leafsfan1967]

Congratulations to Lowes Motor Racing on winning this Matt Kenseth car. Neil was our Nascar Fantasy League halfway points leader! I will be sending this out soon! :) Sorry about the crappy picture. Forgot to put the flash on! :o

Troy


http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL454/2232591/6280632/104065313.jpg




This is the 2004 product I'm leaning towards buying for the weekly pack winner prizes, and the remaining 12 packs will go to the overall 2nd place season finisher.

http://www.dacardworld.com/itemimages/2004ECRACERE.JPG


Product Description:

Hobby Boxes are Nearly Impossible To Find, plus on average you should get 1 or 2 race used event cards in every box!

24 Packs Per Box, 4 Cards Per Pack

Under Cover- Event-used carr covers from the cars of 15 drivers (1:240); Double Cover- Dual car covers from NWC teammates (seq. #'d to 100); Skidmarks- 18-card insert utilizing actual race-used tire to enhance the design elements on the card. (1:18); Press Pass Autographs- Limited edition autograph program found in both Press Pass 2004 and Eclipse 2004 (1:144)




Here is what I think we will go with for the overall champion!

http://www.dacardworld.com/itemimages/05PPPHB.JPG


Product Description:

The 2005 NASCAR NEXTEL Cup season revs up with Press Pass Premium, the first NASCAR Trading Card release featuring all the new driver uniforms, paint schemes and sponsors. Premium rolls out the first edition of the 2005 Press Pass Signings certified autograph trading card program. The tradition continues with a remarkable memorabilia line-up with Hot Threads driver-worn race-used firesuit cards and the hobby only autograph edition, Signature Series!
5 Cards per pack, 20 packs per box,