The Official NASCAR Fan Thread- Texas Motor Speedway, TX (04/06/08) Race 7

[R. Giles]

MI. really needs to do something about the trash that gets on the track. I know all tracks get trash on them but its horrible at MI. On other note its time to boycott Nascar until they get a new tire manufacturer.

[avsfan21]

The flat tires are really getting out of hand. There are at least 5 each race. I have no idea what goodyear is doing, but they are making some really crapy tires. I think we need to get rid of this official tire of nascar BS and get some competition in here. That way we can have the companies trying to out do each other making better tires.

[ajaxdog]

Where do they go ... Bridgestone/Firestone ??? I worked for them for almost tens years and had to deal with all the ATXIIs and Wilderness falling apart and all the explores rolling over. That reminds me a long time ago while at Firestone they were testing these new condoms ... I was going at it real good one night with this chick when it blew out all of a sudden and I rolled out of bed.

[R. Giles]

Where do they go ... Bridgestone/Firestone ??? I worked for them for almost tens years and had to deal with all the ATXIIs and Wilderness falling apart and all the explores rolling over. That reminds me a long time ago while at Firestone they were testing these new condoms ... I was going at it real good one night with this chick when it blew out all of a sudden and I rolled out of bed.

Where you partly ejected or fully ejected from the sheet.

[ajaxdog]

My Sponge Bob Square Pants sheets saved my life ... Thank God!

[x90mattman]

I say we just put solid rubber compounds on the rims, no air = no puncture right? :)

5/43 drivers isn't that bad of ratio, and if we could talk to the teams, they'd probly fess up and say they were running low air pressures or something. I don't think this is goodyears fault anyways, they have proven they can build a tire that will hold up, but Nascar (and the drivers) wants something that wears out and thats what Goodyear gives them.

Also, don't forget this was the first race that Nacar MANDATED a maximum camber setting, and there was what? One front tire that went out?

[avsfan21]

I know they are making softer tires, and I think they should, but i dont remember this many tires going flat back in the mid to late 90s when the tires were softer. When they had the harder tires the races sucked, it always came down to a no tire stop at the end.

[x90mattman]

I don't think there was as much demand from the tires back in the 90's either. It wan't the aerodynamics game that it is today. What I'm worried about is that goodyear is going to start making harder compounds because some teams go beyond what GY says you can do to the tire, then complain when they go to far and get burned.

[Bronko]

If this keeps up and no one from DEI or RCR make the chase :( I don't know what I'll do. I might be forced into rooting for Tony Stewart :eek:.

[hillbillyhatfield]

WITH THE POINT RACE THIS YEAR, there is a good chance th Junior won't be in it. Do you think they will drop it because of this. I was watching an interview with one of the Nascar officials where he said they are estimation that they will loose over 20 million dollars in if Junior and Gordon don't make the chase. That's just in souvenirs, clothing, ect.

[x90mattman]

No way, Nascar looses all credibility if they change it for Jr. or Gordo.

WITH THE POINT RACE THIS YEAR, there is a good chance th Junior won't be in it. Do you think they will drop it because of this. I was watching an interview with one of the Nascar officials where he said they are estimation that they will loose over 20 million dollars in if Junior and Gordon don't make the chase. That's just in souvenirs, clothing, ect.

[x90mattman]

Eating crow on this one, watching Speed News last night and according to them Nascar said that all 4 of the down tires had cuts in them, so something was on the track, not the setups.


I don't think there was as much demand from the tires back in the 90's either. It wan't the aerodynamics game that it is today. What I'm worried about is that goodyear is going to start making harder compounds because some teams go beyond what GY says you can do to the tire, then complain when they go to far and get burned.

[x90mattman]

Have any of you seen the 12" Kasey Kahne? Mark said they shipped to stores weeks ago!?!

[x90mattman]

Well, they're available... in Hong Kong! (http://cgi.ebay.com/McFARLANE-NASCAR-KASEY-KAHNE-12-action-figure-MIB_W0QQitemZ5993992230QQcategoryZ36571QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) :)



Have any of you seen the 12" Kasey Kahne? Mark said they shipped to stores weeks ago!?!

[x90mattman]

Kim is having a case sale. Check out the dealers thread for more details but here's the short of it...

Labonte/Shrek two packs (4 per case) - $40.00

Stewart/Donkey two packs (4 per case) - $40.00

Dale Earnhardt Sr deluxe boxed sets (6 per case) - $80.00

NASCAR Series 2 cases (specialty) - $40.00

These prices include shipping.

[sremmaz]

I need the Shrek sets - but don't need 4 of them :)

As for 12" Kasey - he has been spotted in CA Walmarts - so start looking. I think I will wait until they go to $5 like the Gordons

[Bronko]

Try looking in the garage, that's where Kasey spends most of his time :D

[avsfan21]

Try looking in the garage, that's where Kasey spends most of his time :D

I thought that was RCR cars. I guess I could be wrong.

[Bronko]

I thought that was RCR cars. I guess I could be wrong.

Yeah, you are. RCR cars fail on the track, so no need to take them to the garage :p.

[avsfan21]

Yeah, you are. RCR cars fail on the track, so no need to take them to the garage :p.

Ok you got me there.

[x90mattman]

He was signing in Toledo this past friday, but I missed it :mad:. One of my buddies might be hooking me up with one of the extra his wife got for him though :)

mattman^

Try looking in the garage, that's where Kasey spends most of his time :D

[Buick GN]

Have any of you seen the 12" Kasey Kahne? Mark said they shipped to stores weeks ago!?!

The 12" Kahnes showed up this a.m. at my local NorCal Wally.

I also spotted Series 5, M. Truex(x 3) and one J. Force. This is the first time I've seen Series 5 in this area.

[x90mattman]

Sweet, guess I'll be out hunting after work on friday morning!

Don't forget the truck race is on right now (Wed night)!

mattman^

The 12" Kahnes showed up this a.m. at my local NorCal Wally.

I also spotted Series 5, M. Truex(x 3) and one J. Force. This is the first time I've seen Series 5 in this area.

[avsfan21]

Don't forget the truck race is on right now (Wed night)!

mattman^

Thanks I forgot it is on tonight.

[x90mattman]

Yea... So apparently I lost power at some point in time because I didn't record the truck race, though I did record the Speed channel though. Good thing I listened to it at work on my XM! Bummer of a day for Reuitimann though.

[Buick GN]

Bronko..

Did you happen to see this?

Very freaking cool, in my book. :D Can't wait to score this beauty.

http://cgi.ebay.com/KEVIN-HARVICK-REESES-21-CHASE-ACTION-FIGURE-SERIES-5_W0QQitemZ5995168574QQcategoryZ36571QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[R. Giles]

Bronko..

Did you happen to see this?

Very freaking cool, in my book. :D Can't wait to score this beauty.

http://cgi.ebay.com/KEVIN-HARVICK-REESES-21-CHASE-ACTION-FIGURE-SERIES-5_W0QQitemZ5995168574QQcategoryZ36571QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thats a cool looking figure.

[Buick GN]

Thats a cool looking figure.

I thought so too, R. Giles. ;)

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/nascar-busch/2004/lv/nascarbus-2004-lv-mj-0280.jpg

[R. Giles]

I thought so too, R. Giles. ;)

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/nascar-busch/2004/lv/nascarbus-2004-lv-mj-0280.jpg

If that is a chase fig, it might be hard to find since the chases have been thrown into the regular line.

[avsfan21]

Bronko..

Did you happen to see this?

Very freaking cool, in my book. :D Can't wait to score this beauty.

http://cgi.ebay.com/KEVIN-HARVICK-REESES-21-CHASE-ACTION-FIGURE-SERIES-5_W0QQitemZ5995168574QQcategoryZ36571QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That is my busch ride in nascar chase for the cup 05.

[deogg]

No way, Nascar looses all credibility if they change it for Jr. or Gordo.

At least one of them will "conveniently" make it into the Chase. I can see how Rainbow Brite COULD make it in (make 11th place and Nascar allow 11th place into the Chase; didn't they do that last year?)

[R. Giles]

At least one of them will "conveniently" make it into the Chase. I can see how Rainbow Brite COULD make it in (make 11th place and Nascar allow 11th place into the Chase; didn't they do that last year?)

Last year was just the top 10 because the tenth place guy was over 400 points back. This year is looking like last year where it will be just the top 10.

[avsfan21]

Gordon will have to race his way into the top 10 to be in the chase. With the way he is running this year, he wont have a chance at a championship even if he makes it. He always seems to fade at about the halfway point in the race. They need to do something to fix that.

[R. Giles]

Gordon will have to race his way into the top 10 to be in the chase. With the way he is running this year, he wont have a chance at a championship even if he makes it. He always seems to fade at about the halfway point in the race. They need to do something to fix that.

Maybe he can have Sharapova give him a banana at the halfway mark.

[avsfan21]

Maybe he can have Sharapova give him a banana at the halfway mark.

That would get me going for sure, but seriously if that works I say do it.

[x90mattman]

The only thing good about being in 11th place is you get a bigger paycheck. They raised 11th over the $1 million mark last year so there would still be something to go fora at the end of the year if you didn't make the chase.



At least one of them will "conveniently" make it into the Chase. I can see how Rainbow Brite COULD make it in (make 11th place and Nascar allow 11th place into the Chase; didn't they do that last year?)

[x90mattman]

Any of you guys see this from jayski.com?

UPDATE: hearing that Scott Riggs has signed a 2-year deal to drive the #10 Valvoline Dodge for Evernham Motorsports and the deal will be announced at Bristol.(8-24-2005)

I think that would be sweet for Riggs.

[R. Giles]

It could be a good thing for Riggs or a bad thing for Riggs. Riggs will have good equipment at Evernham but can Riggs use it to his advantage.

[Domin8er]

Well i see 52 plus questions have been answered by Mark and not a one had anything on NASCAR...big surprise.

[Bronko]

Bronko..

Did you happen to see this?

Very freaking cool, in my book. :D Can't wait to score this beauty.

http://cgi.ebay.com/KEVIN-HARVICK-REESES-21-CHASE-ACTION-FIGURE-SERIES-5_W0QQitemZ5995168574QQcategoryZ36571QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Awesome :D At least they gave us a cool chase, since the figure itself is almost the exact same as the first :rolleyes:.

[x90mattman]

Thats my point exactly, he's finally getting some good equipment, if he can't perform in it, it wasn't meant to be...

It could be a good thing for Riggs or a bad thing for Riggs. Riggs will have good equipment at Evernham but can Riggs use it to his advantage.

[x90mattman]

And kick butt for them giving us chase's back!

[x90mattman]

Any of you stay up for th eBusch race? I set my vcr (after I fixed the time) but then proceeded to not rewind the tape, so i only got to see up to the first red flag.

[avsfan21]

It was kind of strange, it worked out perfectly for me. I left for school just as they stoped the race for the first time it rained. Well I get home from school about 90 minutes later and they were just about to throw the green flag again. I was like wow that couldnt have worked out any better. Kind of tired of seeing Newman win all these busch races. I guess since he doesnt have a prayer of winning in cup (since they went back to the softer tires and he cant do the no tire pit stops at the end) he goes to busch.

[Bronko]

Well guys I'm heading out the door to Bristol. Gonna see the Harvick sweep :D.

[avsfan21]

Wow intersting day in the fantasy ranks this week. I thought I did pretty bad only scoring 260, but looks like just about everyone did pretty bad. Highest was like 283. I would have done a lot better if it wasnt for Jarrett taking out Newman collecting Harvick.

Glad to see that Jeff made it to 10th in points, now lets see if he can stay there. I hope he can move up a few more spots to insure himself in the chase.

[ajaxdog]

Ya I had it rough with Harvick and Kyle Busch. At least I had Gordon and Rusty to keep me around 250. Jeff ran well and stayed out of trouble .... maybe his luck has turned and he is ready to make the drive for FIVE !!!!

[Purdue_Pete]

Not a Jarrett fan for that move. Jimmy Spencer and Kenny Wallace saying that they are glad he did it was crazy. No one mentions that Jarrett naile dthe apron and backed off right in front of Newman in the first place...

[x90mattman]

Ajax: Bringing the convo from the other thread here. The Harvick in orange from series 5 is the chase piece. As of series 5 there no longer is a hobby series.

[exanimate]

Well guys I'm heading out the door to Bristol. Gonna see the Harvick sweep :D.

Damn, you were there live. You didn't get to see Harvick screw up pretty bad. I had every right to be pissed, but to run off and be nowhere to be found to get back in the car was a dumb move.

[Bronko]

Damn, you were there live. You didn't get to see Harvick screw up pretty bad. I had every right to be pissed, but to run off and be nowhere to be found to get back in the car was a dumb move.

I don't think it was that bad. Basically that wreck ruined Harvick's year, and any Harvick fan can tell you that the tension has been mounting between him and RCR all year. Every week it's a failed engine, or a flat tire, or his spotter not telling him the pits are closed, or someone's mess that ruins his chances. RCR just can't seem to compete engine wise with the bigger teams, plus the Scott Miller move really got to Kevin. He's a hotheaded guy by nature and after the wreck all the tension just overflowed. I don't know how good the last few laps even helped him in the results.

Dale Jarrett on the other hand needs at least a fine, points docked, and I would love to see him sit out a race. He cost Harvick, himself, and maybe Newman a chance at the chase. I thought the guy was pretty classy, but that move was just idiotic.

[x90mattman]

Sorry Bronko, from Nascar.com (http://www.nascar.com/2005/news/headlines/cup/08/28/djarrett_rnewman/index.html)

NASCAR Nextel Cup director John Darby said Jarrett faces no further penalties.

mattman^


I don't think it was that bad. Basically that wreck ruined Harvick's year, and any Harvick fan can tell you that the tension has been mounting between him and RCR all year. Every week it's a failed engine, or a flat tire, or his spotter not telling him the pits are closed, or someone's mess that ruins his chances. RCR just can't seem to compete engine wise with the bigger teams, plus the Scott Miller move really got to Kevin. He's a hotheaded guy by nature and after the wreck all the tension just overflowed. I don't know how good the last few laps even helped him in the results.

Dale Jarrett on the other hand needs at least a fine, points docked, and I would love to see him sit out a race. He cost Harvick, himself, and maybe Newman a chance at the chase. I thought the guy was pretty classy, but that move was just idiotic.

[Buick GN]

So I walk into my local Wally this a.m., and guess what is hanging on the pegs?

Smoke - Series 5 (x5)
DJ - Series 5 (x1)
Harvick - Series 5 (Reese's firesuit x1)
Force - Series 5 (x2)
Truex - Series 5 (x2)
The Harvick GM Goodwrench suit wasn't found..and I've noticed that Ebay only has one GM suit, Series 5 listed...I'm wondering if the GM suit is actually the "chase" figure? :confused:

On the Smoke - Series 5 ESGR card, the # 29 is actually pointed in the wrong direction..you think someone at McFarlane would of caught this.

Now.. if I could only find the Aikman figures. :)

[avsfan21]

Maybe he can have Sharapova give him a banana at the halfway mark.

Im glad that Sharapova was in Jeff's pit to give him that banana at the halfway mark last night. You can tell the difference. He started falling back at about halfway, then Maria gave him that banana, he then came back up to the front to finish 6th.

[R. Giles]

Im glad that Sharapova was in Jeff's pit to give him that banana at the halfway mark last night. You can tell the difference. He started falling back at about halfway, then Maria gave him that banana, he then came back up to the front to finish 6th.

Glad my advice worked out for Jeff.

[avsfan21]

Up from who knows what page.

[x90mattman]

Any of you guys gonna need regs from Series 5? I'm gonna have access to a case on Sat morning and after I get my set if anybody needs some let me know.

[x90mattman]

Holy sh**! 23 million ->1/2 million -> 18 million loss!!!! Thats insane!

mattman^

Action Performance sold for $245 million By Ed Gately, Tribune August 31, 2005 Daytona Beach, Fla.,-based International Speedway Corp. and Concord, N.C.,-based Speedway Motorsports have partnered to become Motorsports Authentics, which has agreed to buy Action Performance for $13 per common share or about $245 million in cash.


Two top motor sports promoters, including the owner of Phoenix International Raceway, are buying Tempe-based Action Performance Cos. in a deal that is expected to benefit the struggling company.

Action Performance, a marketer and distributor of licensed motor sports merchandise, would be a wholly owned subsidiary of Motorsports Authentics. The acquisition is expected to close by the end of the year.

"This transaction represents the best strategic option for our business," said Fred Wagenhals, president and CEO of Action Performance. "Under the leadership and guidance of Motorsports Authentics’ management committee and a strong integration team, the business should be able to more rapidly execute its turnaround strategy, return to profitability and capitalize on future growth opportunities."

Action Performance has continued its financial slide this year after net income plummeted to $500,000 in 2004, compared with $24.2 million in fiscal 2003.

For the first half of this year, the company reported a nearly $18 million loss.

"I look forward to focusing my efforts on further strengthening the relationships with our licensors and distributors, and contributing to the future success of Motorsports Authentics," Wagenhals said.

Along with Wagenhals, David Riddiford, chief financial officer, and Melodee Volosin, chief operating officer, are expected to remain in key roles in the new company.

Herb Baum, who was recently appointed executive chairman, will not remain with the company after the acquisition.

International Speedway Corp. promotes more than 100 racing events annually, and owns and/or operates 11 of the country’s major motor sportsrelated facilities, including the Phoenix track.

Speedway Motorsports owns and operates several racing facilities, provides souvenir merchandising services, and manufactures and distributes smaller-scale, modified racing cars.

The company also owns Performance Racing Network, which broadcasts syndicated motor sports programming to more than 710 radio stations nationally.

Action Performance recently announced a restructuring of its wholesale NASCAR die-cast distribution into a direct-to-retail model.

The initiative is expected to help the business through a lower cost structure, improved speed to market and earlier awareness of consumer trends, preferences and buying habits.

"As part of Motorsports Authentics, we believe Action has significant long-term potential for generating positive cash flow and earnings," said Lesa France Kennedy, president of International Speedway.

Action Performance’s stock, traded on the New York Stock Exchange, closed at $12.73 a share Tuesday, up 6.17 percent on volume of more than 5.27 million shares.

The stock’s 52-week high was $14.97, while the 52-week low was $8.
International Speedway

• Based in Daytona Beach, Fla.

• Promotes more than 100 racing events annually, and owns and/or operates 11 of the country’s major motor sports-related facilities, including Phoenix International Raceway.

• Owns and operates MRN Radio, a leading independent sports radio network, and Daytona USA, NASCAR’s official attraction.

Speedway Motorsports

• Based in Concord, N.C.

• Owns and operates several racing facilities.

• Provides souvenir merchandising services, and manufactures and distributes smaller-scale, modified racing cars.

• Owns the Performance Racing Network, which broadcasts syndicated motor sports programming to more than 710 radio stations nationally.

[x90mattman]

Wonder if that will affect our figures at all?

[Johnathan]

I never actually saw a series 2 Richard Petty on the pegs, the same will probably be the case for the Davey in series 5.

[x90mattman]

yea, they were only one per case as was the bobby labonte's in that series. I'm still hunting for a Hobby Labonte from that series.

[avsfan21]

I still want to know how ISC and Bruton Smith agreed to anything, let alone agreeing to be partners to buy another company. What has this world come to?

I cant wait for the partners to be sueing each other.

[Sinsightful]

Obviously TeamCaliber cut into Action's business the last few years............and hence forced this issue.................I wonder now if Action will now force TeamCaliber to make wholesale changes.

The figures are still a stand alone company from Action and McFarlane........everything should stay as they have been for better or worse.

[x90mattman]

How would Team Calibur cut into there profits when they have different drivers signed up?

[x90mattman]

Busch racing in less than 24 hours and I'm off to get my Nascar 5 bump!

[Sinsightful]

How would Team Calibur cut into there profits when they have different drivers signed up?

If there wasn't a 'Team Caliber', then who do you think would be making those drivers' diecasts? and hence, making the money off of them?

[x90mattman]

I thought Team Caliber only talent was the Roushkateers? Do they have anybody else signed up? I'm sure Action should be able to make money off the other 90% of the field.

*shrug* I think they just made to much to quick.

mattman^

If there wasn't a 'Team Caliber', then who do you think would be making those drivers' diecasts? and hence, making the money off of them?

[x90mattman]

Opened a case of Nascar 5 tonight...

2 Harvick - One Goodwrench One Reeces
1 Jarret
1 Allison
1 Force
3 Truex Jr
4 Stwearts

No differences in the line beyond the Harvicks (including hats/glasses). Also Picked up a Aikman chase and Sanders and LT reg. And to finish it off I got what I like to call "Crispy Anakin".

Click here to see my haul. (http://users.adelphia.net/%7Ex90mattman/Haul090205.jpg)

mattman^

[R. Giles]

Opened a case of Nascar 5 tonight...

2 Harvick - One Goodwrench One Reeces
1 Jarret
1 Allison
1 Force
3 Truex Jr
4 Stwearts

No differences in the line beyond the Harvicks (including hats/glasses). Also Picked up a Aikman chase and Sanders and LT reg. And to finish it off I got what I like to call "Crispy Anakin".

Click here to see my haul. (http://users.adelphia.net/%7Ex90mattman/Haul090205.jpg)

mattman^

Nice haul.

[x90mattman]

Some of you have already seen the other thread but another chase for series 5 was found today....

(not my pic)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/superg24/DSCF0001.jpg

[R. Giles]

Whoa Tony Stewart in a Road Racing Series firesuit.

[ajaxdog]

R.I.P. Al Rudd Sr.

[x90mattman]

Bump for tonights race! And a picture from over at thatsracin.com!

http://www.thatsracin.com/multimedia/thatsracin/KRT_Packages/archive/wallpaper/2005_sony_hd_500/11.jpg

[sremmaz]

would love to see some SP's like that - just laid back waiting for race time

[exanimate]

Hell I would just like to see a Jr. in a BUD firesuit.

[Leafsfan1967]

Junior blows up! :( Chase for the Championship is over! :(


Looks like the 5 car is the one to beat, but is he?????? :D

[exanimate]

Junior blows up! :( Chase for the Championship is over! :(


Looks like the 5 car is the one to beat, but is he?????? :D

Now that the chase is over for 8, they should go ahead and do the Eury switch. That way they can use the last of the races as a pre season for next season.

[deogg]

Well, if things hold out, ALL FIVE ROUSH DRIVERS would be in the Chase!!!!!! :D

[Leafsfan1967]

Now that the chase is over for 8, they should go ahead and do the Eury switch. That way they can use the last of the races as a pre season for next season.

Good idea! Maybe they can win a couple races at the end here! I think the Roush cars are playing possum! 17/99/97 will be a factor here at the end of this race! ;)

[exanimate]

As much as a Gordon and Johnson fan, I really wanna see Martin get the championship. Not often that you can go out on top.

[Leafsfan1967]

99 up to second! Kyle's gonna have a mirror full soon! :D

[Leafsfan1967]

As much as a Gordon and Johnson fan, I really wanna see Martin get the championship. Not often that you can go out on top.

Martin, or Rusty would make me happy! :)

[Leafsfan1967]

Looks like I was way off! Here comes Tony! :eek:

[Leafsfan1967]

HOLY CHIT!!!! They all pitted!!! :eek: Some only took two tires! :confused:

[Leafsfan1967]

Green/white/checker! :cool:

[exanimate]

Busch better get a helluva jump on the restart, because they will all be comin.

[Leafsfan1967]

I like 16, and 25 here for some reason! :confused:

[deogg]

ABH
Anyone
But
Hendrick

I'm just waiting to see how Nascar gets Gordon into the chase if he doesn't make it by points.......11th place gets in the chase, "conveniently" allow past series champs into the chase.......if Gordon doesn't get in by points, I have this odd feeling Nascar will get him in SOMEHOW.......

[R. Giles]

Kyle Busch wins.

[Goalkeeper]

NICE!!!

#17 breaks into the top 10!

[Goalkeeper]

i've NEVER been a Jeff Gordon 'hater' (i could care less) but he really comes across as someone who whines a lot... someone who probably blames his crew behind closed doors.

i dunno. just the impression i get of him when i hear him talk.

[exanimate]

NICE!!!

#17 breaks into the top 10!

LOL you and my mom are happy.

[Goalkeeper]

LOL you and my mom are happy.

hahaha!

i've been a Kenseth fan since day 1!! :)

[avsfan21]

Oh yeah Mr. H could beat up Mr. T

[exanimate]

i've NEVER been a Jeff Gordon 'hater' (i could care less) but he really comes across as someone who whines a lot... someone who probably blames his crew behind closed doors.

i dunno. just the impression i get of him when i hear him talk.

People say that he whines, but no more than anyone else that is having a bad year. As far as criticizing his crew, I don't get that impression. He knows the whole team stinks, including himself right now. Kind of hard to hide the dissapointment.

[avsfan21]

Yeah he said We, not they suck. He included himself.

[R. Giles]

i've NEVER been a Jeff Gordon 'hater' (i could care less) but he really comes across as someone who whines a lot... someone who probably blames his crew behind closed doors.

i dunno. just the impression i get of him when i hear him talk.

He was really frustrated. He is so close to making the chase but nothing is working out for him. He is as much to blame as the crew since he tells the crew what is wrong with the car during the race.

[Leafsfan1967]

LOL you and my mom are happy.

And me! :D

[sremmaz]

Well I did decent in fantasy tonight

Ending in 2, 3, 4 - damn Johnson was in the Top 10 before the caution at 20

[avsfan21]

Yeah once again I have the winner of the race riding the pine as a backup.

[R. Giles]

Yeah once again I have the winner of the race riding the pine as a backup.

From now on you should list who is your backups. That way we can pick who the winner is.

[avsfan21]

From now on you should list who is your backups. That way we can pick who the winner is.

I have done that in the past.

[Goalkeeper]

Well I did decent in fantasy tonight

Ending in 2, 3, 4 - damn Johnson was in the Top 10 before the caution at 20

3, 4, 7 and 11 for me. i had 2 (Biffle) on the bench...

[sremmaz]

Also had the winner on the bench

But he has more starts for me then Vickers did - so I used him hoping he would take the Pole again - but oh well

[Leafsfan1967]

Well I did decent in fantasy tonight

Ending in 2, 3, 4 - damn Johnson was in the Top 10 before the caution at 20

I did okay too! 2nd,3rd,4th,12th Had the #5 on the bench as well!

[sremmaz]

Damn - thought I might pull out a Win this week.. You got me by 4 spots... :(

[avsfan21]

I might move up a spot or two, did decent, not great.

[ajaxdog]

I finished 2,3,11,and 21 ...
The points in the top 5 are getting cloooooooooser ....
I know Jeff will get in the chase just so Deogg can come on here and say Nascar fixed it for him.
Jeff got me a 21 this week or I would have jumped to first in points ..... damn!

[Leafsfan1967]

Didn't do all of them. Just the top 12 guys in the standings!
Leafs 370
Champs 370
Ajax 320
Posse 354
X-90 325
Coldest 357
Zama 349


Unless my addition is off a little, the top 5 are:

6924 Lowes
6861 Ajax
6860 Champs
6841 Leafs
6806 DMP

[avsfan21]

Well I was 13th and you left me out:p

[Leafsfan1967]

Well I was 13th and you left me out:p

Quit sucking so bad! :D I don't normally figure out stuff by hand, but I was bored!

[avsfan21]

Well actually I am in 12th after they finish updating their points:p

Throw out the 1st half of the season and I would be fighting for first.

[Leafsfan1967]

Well actually I am in 12th after they finish updating their points:p

Throw out the 1st half of the season and I would be fighting for first.

I'd be in 1st if I chose all the right drivers! :p This isn't over yet, not by a long shot. ;)

[x90mattman]

Anybody else hear an evil laugh in the background after reading this post? :D

I'd be in 1st if I chose all the right drivers! :p This isn't over yet, not by a long shot. ;)

[sremmaz]

LOL!!!!

Hopefully people will have not been conserving drivers during the season. I know I was

[x90mattman]

If anybody wants to get a good laugh...

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214761

[ramos]

Im going to the race this weekend. Does anybody know of any good sports bars or :D gentlemens clubs :D near the track? Im staying on Chamberlayned Rd.

[avsfan21]

Up from who knows what page

[Leafsfan1967]

"Flyin Ryan" sets the top speed in final practice, and then smacks the wall! He will go to a back-up car for qualifying! Here's the final practice speeds for Richmond.



http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2005/26/data/practice1_speeds.html (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2005/26/data/practice1_speeds.html)

[Domin8er]

Series 6 pics are up over at http://actionmcfarlane.com

[exanimate]

Wow! The Gordon looks sweet!!!!!

[exanimate]

For the Lazy

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/apetty/series6_apetty_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/belliott/series6_belliott_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/dearnhardtjr/series6_dearnhardtjr_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/jgordon/series6_jgordon_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/jjohnson/series6_jjohnson_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/nbonnett/series6_nbonnett_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/rwallace/series6_rwallace_photo_01_dp.jpg

[Leafsfan1967]

For the Lazy

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/apetty/series6_apetty_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/belliott/series6_belliott_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/dearnhardtjr/series6_dearnhardtjr_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/jgordon/series6_jgordon_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/jjohnson/series6_jjohnson_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/nbonnett/series6_nbonnett_photo_01_dp.jpg

http://actionmcfarlane.com/products/series6/rwallace/series6_rwallace_photo_01_dp.jpg


Those are freakin sweet! Dale Jr is in my favorite firesuit! :eek:

[Leafsfan1967]

Happy Harvick on the pole at Richmond!!!! :D


http://www.jayski.com/stats/2005grids/2005rir2-grid.htm (http://www.jayski.com/stats/2005grids/2005rir2-grid.htm)

[exanimate]

Ok guys. I know that this isn't the B/S/T board, but we are all friends in here, and what better place to look for Nascar figs?

I currently need the following.

Series 2 Gordon Retail - No Hat, No Glasses
Series 2 Gordon Hobby (Pepsi) - No Hat, No Glasses
Series 2 Gordon Hobby (Pepsi) - No Glasses

Series 4 Gordon w/ hat and glasses
Series 4 Gordon No Glasses

Series 4 Jimmie Johnson

Series 1 Gordon Hobby Refresh (Not oeverly important)
Series 1 Gordon Retail Refresh (Not overly important)

Entire 3 inch series.

I have a few items to trade, A couple of Favre figs, and a few MLB. Just hoping that someone has a few extra of these just layin around.

[R. Giles]

Did anybody watch the Busch race. That was crazy especially when M. Wallace just ran Truex into the wall. Then Truex slides down the backstrecth and into turn 3 on his side. Harvick wins the race with Menard in 2nd and Martin along with Kenseth right behind.

[Bronko]

Missed the race, but saw the results :D

Everyone get happy :D:D:D

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/bg/09/09/rir_quickie/harvick_vl.jpg
http://www.nascar.com/2005/news/headlines/bg/09/09/rir_quickie/index.html

[Sinsightful]

Those are freakin sweet! Dale Jr is in my favorite firesuit! :eek:
That is the ugliest uniform to date for Jr. and I absolutely hated that car............with that being said, adding the car side is a great touch ActionMcFarlane!!!

Variants????
Born On Date, Sundrop, Coke, AC Delco, Dirty Mo Posse, Iroc Series, Superman Delco, Olympic

[Sinsightful]

Did anybody watch the Busch race. That was crazy especially when M. Wallace just ran Truex into the wall. Then Truex slides down the backstrecth and into turn 3 on his side. Harvick wins the race with Menard in 2nd and Martin along with Kenseth right behind.

Racing....boring?!?!?!
Not when you can ride the fence down the entire straightaway on a 3/4 mile track and still drive into pit lane!!!!

[Leafsfan1967]

That is the ugliest uniform to date for Jr. and I absolutely hated that car............with that being said, adding the car side is a great touch ActionMcFarlane!!!

Variants????
Born On Date, Sundrop, Coke, AC Delco, Dirty Mo Posse, Iroc Series, Superman Delco, Olympic

That's your opinion, not mine! :rolleyes:

[exanimate]

It seems that Loomis is considering leaving the 24 team. From what I read and heard on tv, the grind of Nascar is to much on him.

[Leafsfan1967]

It seems that Loomis is considering leaving the 24 team. From what I read and heard on tv, the grind of Nascar is to much on him.

Or he could sign on with the #8 team! Seems to be more going on within the 24 pits then we are hearing! They haven't been good for quite a while now! :confused:

[exanimate]

Don't know who is out there right now that would be a good fit over at the Dupont team. You know they won't settle for someone that isn't proven.

Eury is back with Jr., so that is a no go. I think the 8 team should go ahead and make the switch since they aren't in the chase. Use these last races as a pre season for next season.

[Leafsfan1967]

Don't know who is out there right now that would be a good fit over at the Dupont team. You know they won't settle for someone that isn't proven.

Eury is back with Jr., so that is a no go. I think the 8 team should go ahead and make the switch since they aren't in the chase. Use these last races as a pre season for next season.

Wonder why he wants to leave? I think there's more than we're hearing! I doubt they would disrupt the 48 team, but what about a swap with Loomis, and Knaus? 48 hasn't been that good lately either, which further makes my suspicions all that more interesting! Something internal????

[exanimate]

Everything I have heard was that it came up before the season ever started. He says that the schedule, and the demand that nascar puts on him is to much. He said something like it has been Nascar, God, then Family, and he wants it to be God, Family, Nascar.

[Leafsfan1967]

Everything I have heard was that it came up before the season ever started. He says that the schedule, and the demand that nascar puts on him is to much. He said something like it has been Nascar, God, then Family, and he wants it to be God, Family, Nascar.

Shouldn't hookers, and beer be in there somewhere???? LOL!!! :D

[Leafsfan1967]

It sucks that I will miss the race tomorrow night! I have to drive 3+ hours to a wedding. :( Maybe I can head back to the hotel right after the dinner! :D

[R. Giles]

It sucks that I will miss the race tomorrow night! I have to drive 3+ hours to a wedding. :( Maybe I can head back to the hotel right after the dinner! :D

Screw the wedding they are boring anyways. If you can't get out of it take a small radio with you and run the headphones up through your shirt or jacket. Listen to the race and ignore everybody else.

[Leafsfan1967]

Screw the wedding they are boring anyways. If you can't get out of it take a small radio with you and run the headphones up through your shirt or jacket. Listen to the race and ignore everybody else.

Nice thought, but we don't get the races on radio up here! I wish! :(

[R. Giles]

Nice thought, but we don't get the races on radio up here! I wish! :(

Wow that sucks. Maybe the races will get onto radio up there sometime. PRN (Performance Racing Network) and MRN (Motor Racing Network) keep adding stations like crazy around the states here.

[DevsFan]

Well I figured I might as well post on here once. I got into racing by my uncle who used to take mwe into the pits at our local race track. My home track is the one and only Milwaukee Mile, went to every race there no matter what kind or when from 1990 till 2000 when my aunt and uncle got divorced. I've also been up to Slinger Speedway and Angel Park Speedway up in Sun Praire. I'm also going to the Indy 500 next september with some relatives of mine. Well that's a little about me and btw my Favorite Driver has to be the one and only

http://hometown.aol.de/Xsantana3/Fahrer/rusty_wallace.jpg

Rusty Wallace

[Leafsfan1967]

Well I figured I might as well post on here once. I got into racing by my uncle who used to take mwe into the pits at our local race track. My home track is the one and only Milwaukee Mile, went to every race there no matter what kind or when from 1990 till 2000 when my aunt and uncle got divorced. I've also been up to Slinger Speedway and Angel Park Speedway up in Sun Praire. I'm also going to the Indy 500 next september with some relatives of mine. Well that's a little about me and btw my Favorite Driver has to be the one and only

http://hometown.aol.de/Xsantana3/Fahrer/rusty_wallace.jpg

Rusty Wallace

Mine, too! ;)

[Leafsfan1967]

Wow that sucks. Maybe the races will get onto radio up there sometime. PRN (Performance Racing Network) and MRN (Motor Racing Network) keep adding stations like crazy around the states here.

I use to listen to the race on MRN when I went to MIS years ago! Funny thing is, I'll be close to Michigan tomorrow where this wedding is!

[avsfan21]

Wow I love the Jeff fig. They are finally giving them so action instead of just standing next to a pit wall.

[avsfan21]

It sucks that I will miss the race tomorrow night! I have to drive 3+ hours to a wedding. :( Maybe I can head back to the hotel right after the dinner! :D

Yeah I get to miss the race also. I have to work tomorrow night. If it was on NBC I would watch it at work, but no it has to be on TNT. Oh well at least I wouldnt be pissed at work if Jeff doesnt make the chase. My god I was about to beat people up after Colorado State lost when I was watching it at work.

[Leafsfan1967]

Martin Truex Jr. found out his car would not stick on the bottom of the race track, so he tried using the high grove! :eek: That didn't work either! :D


http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050910/capt.vagb10609100202.nascar_busch_vagb106.jpg

[avsfan21]

I would say he got a little sideways.

[Bronko]

You heard it here first.....Kevin Harvick will win the race and defy critics everywhere by busting into the chase ;). Well, maybe just the win :p

[avsfan21]

You heard it here first.....Kevin Harvick will win the race and defy critics everywhere by busting into the chase ;). Well, maybe just the win :p

Yeah I can see the win, but the Chase might be a tough task.

[R. Giles]

Kurt Busch wins the race and Ryan Newman makes the chase. That was a crazy race, Robby Gordon and Tony Raines getting 5 lap penalities for rough driving. Jeff Gordon sucked it up today like usual for this season.

[Bronko]

Pretty boring race for the most part. I gained a lot of respect for Jamie Mac. He gets taken out by a field filler, and is composed and very level headed.

And the 29 team blew another race, no biggie there :rolleyes:

[deogg]

Lemme see.......

All 5 Roush drivers in the chase.............
Rainbow Brite NOT in the chase (tho I'm still waiting to see how Nascar fixes it to get him in)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[avsfan21]

Lemme see.......

All 5 Roush drivers in the chase.............
Rainbow Brite NOT in the chase (tho I'm still waiting to see how Nascar fixes it to get him in)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would they fix it? The stupid chase shiot has already cost Jeff his 5th championship last year. He won the championship last year, but since they gave everyone points he lost it in the end. Everyone knows Kurt Busch would have never been champion if it wasnt for that dumb chase junk. Seems that they fixed the points system to help Roush drivers not Jeff Gordon.

[ajaxdog]

I agree with you 100%

[ajaxdog]

Id like to take a huge dump in the Cats hat ..... screw Roush and all of his drivers !

[avsfan21]

Still like my name for him, Jackas* in the Hat.

[x90mattman]

Yet, just a few weeks ago, Dale Jarret goes back out for on other reason than to wreck Newman, and gets a whopping 2 lap penalty. Funny how flipping the bird is gonna cost Truex Jr 25 points and at least 10 grand, yet using your car as a weapon is only worth 2 laps. If i'm pissed off and my day is done like i'm gonna care about going more laps down. Nascar has it wrong on this one. If somebody retaliates, they should be parked, PERIOD.

Kurt Busch wins the race and Ryan Newman makes the chase. That was a crazy race, Robby Gordon and Tony Raines getting 5 lap penalities for rough driving. Jeff Gordon sucked it up today like usual for this season.

[x90mattman]

Formatted and installed Window$ xp on my buddies pc today and as a thank you he gave me one of his kasey kahne 1/64 he had signed when Kasey came to Toledo the week of the MIS race. Score! (sorry for the fuzzy picture, camera battery died so i couldn't take another yet :)) (http://users.adelphia.net/%7Ex90mattman/kaseykahneauto.jpg)

mattman^

[Sinsightful]

Why would they fix it? The stupid chase shiot has already cost Jeff his 5th championship last year. He won the championship last year, but since they gave everyone points he lost it in the end. Everyone knows Kurt Busch would have never been champion if it wasnt for that dumb chase junk. Seems that they fixed the points system to help Roush drivers not Jeff Gordon.

no, it cost J.J. last year, he was the one walking away with it........Gordon was behind Jr. when the chase started last year.

[deogg]

no, it cost J.J. last year, he was the one walking away with it........Gordon was behind Jr. when the chase started last year.

Also, had the Chase format been in place in 2003 (when Kenseth won) Rainbow Brite woulda won the title.

[Mean 'ol Bear]

The series 6 pics look GREAT! Love the idea of including the side of the car, something I was hoping they would do a long time ago.

Great job!

[Mean 'ol Bear]

Hopeful variants:
Adam Petty in his Spree Busch series uniform.
Neil Bonnet in his Purolator Wood Bros. uniform.
Rusty Wallace in his yellow Kodak suit.

[sub4]

The series 6 pictures look great. Gotta love the side of the car being used now. Here is to hoping I can get a Jeremy Mayfield series 7 figure with a Mountain Dew chase!

[avsfan21]

no, it cost J.J. last year, he was the one walking away with it........Gordon was behind Jr. when the chase started last year.

No Jeff Gordon would have been the champion last year if they had the real points system in place. JJ would have been second. With Kurt Busch like 3rd or 4th.

[x90mattman]

If you look at it from Nascar's view though, they made the right decision, they have never gotten press like they do now at the end of the season. So now instead of getting the majority of the press at the beggining of the year, they get it at the beggining and end. No real point in looking at who would have one under the old system, because the old system is a moot point.

No Jeff Gordon would have been the champion last year if they had the real points system in place. JJ would have been second. With Kurt Busch like 3rd or 4th.

[Sinsightful]

No Jeff Gordon would have been the champion last year if they had the real points system in place. JJ would have been second. With Kurt Busch like 3rd or 4th.
I don't see how this is possible.
J.J. was in the lead when the chase started last year. Gordon was behind him.
Didn't J.J. still end up in front of Gordon at the end of the season? And even if he didn't, how could he have closed the gap without the point change. J.J. had checked out on everyone last year, including Jr. who was second in points at the time.

But I do agree, the points system is what it is and its not going to change anytime soon, if ever.

[avsfan21]

No gordon was leading the points after california for sure.

http://www.jayski.com/stats/2004standings/sept11.htm

[Buick GN]

Greetings..

Today I scored the Smoke.. Series 5, Citgo Chase figure. It's MIMB. I'm looking to trade it.

I'm looking for the KH.. GM Suit, Series 5 Chase figure..if anyone is interested in the trade let me know.

I'm also looking for the Blue Aikman figure, aswell. (Yes..I know it's a long shot)

[exanimate]

Gonna hit an out of the way Walmart tommorrow. If I see either of those figs Buick, I will pick them up for you.

[sremmaz]

If you find 2 - let me know Jason

[DMM77]

Well, I had Kurt Busch this past weekend but I'm still in 16th in my pool. I have had horrible luck. I feel like Jeff Gordon!

[avsfan21]

Man I feel like Jamie McMurray, 1 short of the chase.

[x90mattman]

Originally posted in this thread... (http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214888)

From http://www.actionmcfarlane.com/news/01.07.2005.aspx

NASCAR SERIES 5 LINEUP ANNOUNCED
Newest ActionMcFarlane Figure Line Coming Soon
January 7, 2005 ActionMcFarlane opens up the garage and rolls out its NASCAR Series 5 lineup, featuring five of today's top drivers, one NHRA living legend and one commemorative figure for a racing star who left us all too soon. Here's our field of seven:

Casey Mears -- After training in the Craftsman Truck and Busch Series, Mears made his presence felt during his second full season in the Nextel Cup Series. The 41 car won pole positions at the Pennsylvania 500 and Brickyard 400 in consecutive weeks and turned in a season-high fourth-place finish at the Sirius at the Glen race in August.


How has this line been out for two weeks and we all missed this? I thought it odd when series 5 popped up and we didn't see any of these but figured I got series 5 and 6 mixed up. Apparently not .


Have to see what Mark can say on this.

And today I got a reply from Mark...

"The approvals dragged on Casey Mears' figure and he was eventually pulled from
the lineup. He may well make it into a future series."

As a Mears fan I hope he gets put into 6, but with him changing teams I doubt he'll be put in till we know his new sponsor...

[Buick GN]

Gonna hit an out of the way Walmart tommorrow. If I see either of those figs Buick, I will pick them up for you.

Thanks exanimate. Good luck in your hunt. :)

Actually I'm looking for the regular Aikman figure too. I'll gladly pay for the figure and shipping on that particular figure.

I'd like to save the Smoke-Citgo, Chase for a Harvick-GM, Chase trade.

[Sinsightful]

hey guys, I know I've posted about this fantasy site before but I see you people love your fantasy picking each week and wanted to share this site with you. This is someone else's description but its pretty dead on....

Lucky Dog Racing is an elite NASCAR fantasy picks league that covers both the Nextel Cup and Busch Series. Members can play for money or just for fun. Cup membership is currently closed but interested players can be placed on a waiting list. Players can also play in the Busch series and eventually advance to the Cup league as space permits. Cup members receive their own team page and custom designed car.

www.luckydogracing.com

one other thing, members in the Busch league are usually the first ones called up to Cup....I think we have had five members called up from there this year alone.
I'm June Bug Racing over there, got eliminated from the Chase last week at California but recorded my fourth career victory in two years there at Richmond this week.

[BMATT]

I got one thing to say....LONG LIVE THE KING...#43 Sir Richard!!!!!!!

[avsfan21]

Bump

[x90mattman]

Truck racing tommorow bump!

[exanimate]

Hey everyone. Paul and I (along with my wife and 8 year old son) will be at Martinsville on Oct. 23. Just seeing if anyone else is going. Maybe we could all hookup and have a few cold ones before the race.

[pimpinmidget]

hey guys anyone looking for a CITGO Stewart?

[exanimate]

hey guys anyone looking for a CITGO Stewart?

How much you askin?

[pimpinmidget]

How much you askin?

All I am asking is the same thing I always do....

for you to enjoy the figure once it arrives

[exanimate]

All I am asking is the same thing I always do....

for you to enjoy the figure once it arrives

Send me a PM w/ the details please.

[x90mattman]

I'm cursed I tell ya, I couldn't get a truck race recorded if my life depended on it... So today I set up my VCR to record and get everything set up right, double check i've got the timer icon on and go to bed. When I get up, I see the tape as ejected and the timer light is blinking, so I pull the tape out, only to find that the VCR got hungry and tried to eat the tape. Weirdness!

[R. Giles]

I'm cursed I tell ya, I couldn't get a truck race recorded if my life depended on it... So today I set up my VCR to record and get everything set up right, double check i've got the timer icon on and go to bed. When I get up, I see the tape as ejected and the timer light is blinking, so I pull the tape out, only to find that the VCR got hungry and tried to eat the tape. Weirdness!

I think it's time to invest in Tivo.

[Bronko]

Kurt Busch wrecks on lap 3 :eek:. What a way to start the Chase :D:D

[R. Giles]

Kurt Busch wrecks on lap 3 :eek:. What a way to start the Chase :D:D

That was pretty funny with Busch walking to the 10's pit box to talk to the crew chief.

[exanimate]

Christ! Can they show anymore damn commercials? I hope that ESPN gets the contract back. I love how they show the split screen during commercial breaks during the IRL races.

[Bronko]

Now Robby Gordon and Michael Waltrip get into it :rolleyes:

Nascar is going to be busy after the race :p.

[Lasek99]

michael waltrip is my hero

[R. Giles]

Christ! Can they show anymore damn commercials? I hope that ESPN gets the contract back. I love how they show the split screen during commercial breaks during the IRL races.

Fox and NBC/TNT think showing all these commercials will help them get some money back. They payed so much for Nascar that they lose money every year showing it.

[Bronko]

I'm almost sure that Robby Gordon will be sitting next week.

[R. Giles]

I'm almost sure that Robby Gordon will be sitting next week.

That is probably true. Feel bad for Waltrip cause the replay they just showed showed Gordon running Waltrip up the track. I don't think Waltrip wanted to do the Truex Jr. ride.

[Bronko]

Tony Stewart was almost involved in that Gordon/Waltrip mess twice :eek:

[exanimate]

Fox and NBC/TNT think showing all these commercials will help them get some money back. They payed so much for Nascar that they lose money every year showing it.

At least adopt the split screen like ESPN has.

[R. Giles]

At least adopt the split screen like ESPN has.

I agree but from what I have heard the sponsors have to agree to it. I guess Nascar sponsors want the full screen to show the stupid commercials that make me avoid their products.

[Leafsfan1967]

I think Nascar should park the 9 car next week for the retatliation against the 5 car! :rolleyes: Busch was a top 15 car, and because of track position could have possibly had a top 5, or 10 car. There is no way he hid Kahne on purpose in that situation. It sucks for Kahne, but it was one of those deals where they both wanted that spot on the track, Kahne pinched him down, and Busch slid up in the corner a little! This crap has to stop (aka 88 car 2 weeks ago), and the only way it will is for them to be harsh in dealing with this! That was Bullchit! :mad:

[avsfan21]

WOOHOO, another winner on my bench.

[R. Giles]

Nice pass Newman put on Stewart on the second to last lap.

[Leafsfan1967]

Fuggin TSN cut away to CFL football. SOB!!! :mad:

[exanimate]

Fuggin TSN cut away to CFL football. SOB!!! :mad:

That is what you get for living in Canada. Get you a Direct TV (I know you are in Canada, but it can be done).

[Leafsfan1967]

That is what you get for living in Canada. Get you a Direct TV (I know you are in Canada, but it can be done).

I just need to subscribe to the western channels, and I'll be fine! Just switched back to Rogers, from Bell ExpressVu Satellite, as I can have as many TV's as I want with cable! Who cares about the CFL, really???? :rolleyes: They could of waited to join feed for 5-10 more minutes! :mad:

[avsfan21]

I should move up to 9th. Watch your back Paul, I am coming to get you. I should be close to 3rd in the 2nd half also.

Oh and Troy quit cheating fool. You can quote me right here, Troy is rubbing something on his tires.

[Leafsfan1967]

I should move up to 9th. Watch your back Paul, I am coming to get you. I should be close to 3rd in the 2nd half also.

Oh and Troy quit cheating fool. You can quote me right here, Troy is rubbing something on his tires.

Yah, it's your 9th place bullchit! :p :D

[avsfan21]

I was laughing my a-- of at what the comments Robby Gordon said about Mikey. I dont think it would have been as funny if Bill Webber didnt go. "We are so sorry about that language."

[Bronko]

I was laughing my a-- of at what the comments Robby Gordon said about Mikey. I dont think it would have been as funny if Bill Webber didnt go. "We are so sorry about that language."

I liked Michael's respones too.

Benny- "We saw you ducked when he threw the helmet"
Mikey- "Well, I ain't no fool."

Benny- "Robby said it's your fault"
Mikey- "Well, it's half my fault. I agreed to come out and race with him today."

[x90mattman]

Well, I got through 2 hours of todays race before my VCR ate the new tape I put in. Glad this is my last week of 3rd shift and I can start watching these live again. Although sitting through the commercials will suck ***. I think that they should charge more for the commercials and show less, I mean we're the #2 sport in the US I think the sponsors would pony up the money to be one of a few sponsors. But I'm sure the TV stations would say they're bound to the Arbintron pricing of commercials, its all crap!

[Purdue_Pete]

If I were NASCAR I would:

1. Fine Jarrett $50K retro-active to make a "statement". Also dock 50 points and probabtion the rest of the year.

2. Fine Kahne $25K and dock him 50 points. Probabtion the rest of the year.

3. Suspend Robby Gordon for 5 races. If he wants to put another driver in his car to have a shot at the top-35 in points, that's okay, however he is still fined $50K and his team takes a 100 point hit.

4. Suspend Michael Waltrip for one race. (He clearly turned Robby into the outside wall under caution on purpose.) Put an end to this crap right now. Fine him $50K and dock the team 100 points.

5. Kyle Busch. Probation for driving like an idiot.

6. Kurt Busch. Probation for entering another teams pit box.

Whatcha think?

:D

[Sinsightful]

Kasey Kahne and Robby Gordon basically did the same infraction and should be penalized the most.
Next you should rip some points from Kurt Busch for entering another team's pitbox with bad intentions.
Kyle Busch and Scott Riggs and Michael Waltrip all drove like idiots, but that is a talent issue, not reckless driving so therefore should not receive any penalties.
Dale Jarrett.............well they dropped the ball on him a few weeks ago and that just gave the green light to the rest of the drivers to have their heads up their rearends. You can't penalize him now though.

[Bronko]

The fines are in:

• Kurt Busch -- no penalties.
• Kasey Kahne -- fined $25,000, loses 25 driver points and placed on probation for rest of year for intentionally trying to hit another driver under caution. Team owner Ray Evernham also loses 25 owner points.
• Robby Gordon -- fined $25,000, deducted 25 driver points for attempting to hit another competitor on the race track (both with helmet and with car). Gordon also was fined $10,000 and deducted another 25 points for using profanity on TV. Gordon also is on probation for the rest of the year. Owner James Smith also loses 25 owner points for each fine.
• Michael Waltrip -- fined $10,000 and deducted 25 points for using obscene gesture. Owner Theresa Earnhardt also loses 25 points.
• Brian Vickers -- Primary Car was confiscated by NASCAR on Friday because of unapproved car body. Vickers also loses 25 driver points and was placed on probation for the rest of year. Crew chief Lance McGrew was fined $10,000 and Team owner Mary Hendrick loses 25 owner points.

[Purdue_Pete]

The fines are in:


• Kurt Busch -- no penalties.
• Kasey Kahne -- fined $25,000, loses 25 driver points and placed on probation for rest of year for intentionally trying to hit another driver under caution. Team owner Ray Evernham also loses 25 owner points.
• Robby Gordon -- fined $25,000, deducted 25 driver points for attempting to hit another competitor on the race track (both with helmet and with car). Gordon also was fined $10,000 and deducted another 25 points for using profanity on TV. Gordon also is on probation for the rest of the year. Owner James Smith also loses 25 owner points for each fine.
• Michael Waltrip -- fined $10,000 and deducted 25 points for using obscene gesture. Owner Theresa Earnhardt also loses 25 points.
• Brian Vickers -- Primary Car was confiscated by NASCAR on Friday because of unapproved car body. Vickers also loses 25 driver points and was placed on probation for the rest of year. Crew chief Lance McGrew was fined $10,000 and Team owner Mary Hendrick loses 25 owner points.

Lame. I like my suspension ideas better.

[x90mattman]

Kurt asked permission from Nascar before he entered the pit which is why there is no penalties for him. I think its crap though, cause a rule is a rule, unless your refereing to Nascar then it just depends who you are.

Next you should rip some points from Kurt Busch for entering another team's pitbox with bad intentions.

[pimpinmidget]

exanimate - I PMed you with the DC# for the Stewart - Enjoy

[hillbillyhatfield]

I don't condone all the hot tempers sunday, but it was exciting

[deogg]

Something I just thought of (thanks to Bronko's post about the penalties), going back to the rumor that Nascar was looking at limiting the # of cars a team has in the Chase, all that matters in that respect is one thing: Who is the OWNER of the car.

Example: Matt Kenseth's #17 car. Yeah, the car says Roush Racing on it, but the person who is the owner of the car is NOT Jack Roush, it's Mark Martin.

Another example (again, thanks to Bronko): Brian Vickers' car. Yes, it does say Hendrick Motorsports on it, but the owner on record is NOT Rick Hendrick, but Mary Hendrick.

[R. Giles]

Something I just thought of (thanks to Bronko's post about the penalties), going back to the rumor that Nascar was looking at limiting the # of cars a team has in the Chase, all that matters in that respect is one thing: Who is the OWNER of the car.

Example: Matt Kenseth's #17 car. Yeah, the car says Roush Racing on it, but the person who is the owner of the car is NOT Jack Roush, it's Mark Martin.

Another example (again, thanks to Bronko): Brian Vickers' car. Yes, it does say Hendrick Motorsports on it, but the owner on record is NOT Rick Hendrick, but Mary Hendrick.

That's why Nascar wants to limit the number of cars. That's how Rouch and Hendrick have gotten around to rule to get more cars.

[avsfan21]

They will probably still get around it. Just start different organizations, Mary Hendrick Motorsports, Jeff Gordon Racing, Mark Martin Motorsports, but still work together.

[avsfan21]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Robby-Gordon-race-used-NASCAR-Helmet_W0QQitemZ5245335747QQcategoryZ50121QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Check this out. Too bad they didnt restrict the bidding, there is no way someone is going to pay that. It is just like the TO championship ring.

[exanimate]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Robby-Gordon-race-used-NASCAR-Helmet_W0QQitemZ5245335747QQcategoryZ50121QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Check this out. Too bad they didnt restrict the bidding, there is no way someone is going to pay that. It is just like the TO championship ring.

People are idiots messing up the price of items that benefit charities.

[avsfan21]

If I was running the auction I would cancel all the bids now that he made it pre-qualify to bid. He removed some, but he should just start from scratch. I dont see anyone paying 9+ million for this.

[R. Giles]

They have now suspended the auction for a period of time. They are going to check out the bids they have right now and get rid of the ones that aren't legit.

[Sinsightful]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5246187188&rd=1&ssp agename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1


new auction...............already up around $52,000

[Bronko]

No posts on race day bump.

[avsfan21]

boring race day, probably watched about 30 laps of the race.

[exanimate]

I was in and out most of the day. Got home in time to catch the 48 take the win. :D

[R. Giles]

Didn't care for the cup race today. Mainly watched the f1 race, the IRL race and football.

[exanimate]

I think in the future you will start seeing most races on Saturday nights. To hard to compete with the NFL.

[avsfan21]

I would think about going to night races at Atlanta Motor Speedway. They have the lights, I dont know why they dont use them.

[sremmaz]

I thought I set my tivo - but must have forgot - I know I changed the channel and watched them drop the green - must have forgot to hit record.

Oh well - did go in fantasy 2,3,4,5 this week - but damnit someoone had 1,2,3,4 - UGH!! thought I would win for sure with that pick

[R. Giles]

Atlanta does use them for night qualifying and put them up for the IRL that was here for like 3 years.

[Ol'Chaun]

I've been a NASCAR fan since 1980 and to make a long story short. My favorite drivers are Dale Jr and Truex Jr. :spawnorb:

[R. Giles]

I've been a NASCAR fan since 1980 and to make a long story short. My favorite drivers are Dale Jr and Truex Jr. :spawnorb:

Welcome to the Nascar thread, by the way not a fan of those drivers.

[avsfan21]

Looks like they want to make the next Charlotte race a nice Snoozer.

Restrictor Plates at Lowe's Motor Speedway? With less than rave reviews of the ever-changing track surface at Lowe's Motor Speedway from Chasers Tony Stewart, Greg Biffle and Mark Martin afer a test last week, NASCAR officials are considering running restrictor plates on the cars in the October 15 race at Charlotte. Stewart and Biffle wrecked two cars apiece during the tests. After plowing his car at 170 mph into the Turn 2 wall, Biffle felt the aftereffects last weekend at Dover. "From the eye, the track looks good," Biffle says. But the tire compound doesn't work well with the track's new surface. NASCAR doesn't expect any relief until the track is repaved after the race.(Sporting News/Lee Spencer (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=20371))(9-26-2005)

[ajaxdog]

I screwed myself and did not change my picks ... went with Busch for the 2nd straight week. Didnt help Front row joe crashed with 5 laps to go. I went from 2nd to 6th in 2 weeks.

[Bronko]

Looks like they want to make the next Charlotte race a nice Snoozer.

It was a snoozer in May without the plates.

[avsfan21]

I just want to know when will they learn that putting plates on the cars at different tracks just doesnt work. It isnt that great at Daytona and Dega, but at lease you can some what pass. When you put the plates on the cars at other tracks it takes down the power and makes it a lot harder to pass. Just look at Louden a few years back Jeff Burton lead all 300 laps of the race.

[Irish_Flyers]

Oh well - did go in fantasy 2,3,4,5 this week - but damnit someoone had 1,2,3,4 - UGH!! thought I would win for sure with that pick

You're welcome. :D
I'm Lowe's Motor Sports in our league. :p

The race in general (Dover) was quite boring. But being a 48 fan, (and knowing I had my fantasy drivers finish 1-4) the race was great for me. :D

[Irish_Flyers]

I was at Dover race and was thought you might find this funny.
I was walking through all the merchandise trailers, and stopped at Robby Gordon's becasue he was there signing autographs. Real nice guy, interacting with the crowd a lot too. (Looking up for pics waving, commenting back to them, etc etc)
At one point someone said, Hey Robby how about throwing us one of this little helmets. He laughed, look out to us, like should I, and ended up throwing one out. He got a kick out of that. Then he said, Good luck selling that on eBay.

Just thought you'd find that little story humorous

[R. Giles]

I was at Dover race and was thought you might find this funny.
I was walking through all the merchandise trailers, and stopped at Robby Gordon's becasue he was there signing autographs. Real nice guy, interacting with the crowd a lot too. (Looking up for pics waving, commenting back to them, etc etc)
At one point someone said, Hey Robby how about throwing us one of this little helmets. He laughed, look out to us, like should I, and ended up throwing one out. He got a kick out of that. Then he said, Good luck selling that on eBay.

Just thought you'd find that little story humorous

That is kinda of funny, at least Robby is being a sport about the incident.

[sremmaz]

FYI! - Got this off another board

Martin Truex Jr., the 2004 Busch Series Champion and current leader in the 2005 standings will be at the Bass Pro Shops in Memphis, TN on October 20, 2005 from 6-8 PM. This was just announced today!

[avsfan21]

Just read this on Jayski.

Changes to "The Chase" in 2006? There may well be a new rule on points for next year's championship chase, according to sources who say that NASCAR is considering a separate points system for the 10 leading drivers. Under that this season, Kurt Busch would not have lost as many points for his Loudon crash - Busch was credited with 41st-place points at Loudon, but under the proposed system he would have been credited with 10th place points, and would still be in the hunt. Of course, under such a new system, the worst finish a playoff driver would be credited with each weekend would be 10th - 134 points, losing at most 56 points to the tour leader. At Loudon, Busch finished 35th and got 58 points.(Winston Salem Journal (http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031785277858&path=%21sports%21autoracing%21nascar&s=1037645509206))(9-26-2005)

I cant say that I like the idea. If you finish 43rd, you dont get 10th place points. That is just stupid. Nascar is just making itself more and more like the WWE. Anything to rig the series for the show.

[x90mattman]

I kinda like that system. That was my only complaint when they set up the chase. The final 10 guys, although racing the other 33 guys on the track, are only racing 9 others on the points sheet. Think about it, it would be close as hell every year right up to the end, you're still going to have to have your A game every week regardless of the points situation, but your not screwed if your taken out by R. Gordon or Riggs.

[sremmaz]

Right now they have to race all 42 other drivers , or they get dookie points like Busch did. If its setup the new way - then they are only racing 9 others..

I really hope they don't change the points to what is proposed on jayski

[x90mattman]

Yea, soooo... we had to have our drivers locked in by last night, so I'm stuck with my Dover drivers. I'm screwed!

[ajaxdog]

Yea, soooo... we had to have our drivers locked in by last night, so I'm stuck with my Dover drivers. I'm screwed!

I hate that ... I was on at 6am and found out I am screwed too:mad:

[R. Giles]

Here's the starting line-up for Sunday's race:
1 38 Elliott Sadler Ford 189.260
2 88 Dale Jarrett Ford 188.775
3 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 188.596
4 20 Tony Stewart Chevy 188.571
5 01 Joe Nemechek Chevy 188.333
6 18 Bobby Labonte Chevy 188.307
7 10 Scott Riggs Chevy 188.270
8 16 Greg Biffle Ford 188.237
9 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevy 188.214
10 99 Carl Edwards Ford 188.100
11 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 187.997
12 24 Jeff Gordon Chevy 187.805
13 5 Kyle Busch # Chevy 187.757
14 42 Jamie McMurray Dodge 187.687
15 77 Travis Kvapil # Dodge 187.640
16 40 Sterling Marlin Dodge 187.529
17 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevy 187.496
18 31 Jeff Burton Chevy 187.478
19 11 J.J. Yeley Chevy 187.405
20 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevy 187.071
21 97 Kurt Busch Ford 187.046
22 7 Robby Gordon Chevy 187.020
23 0 Mike Bliss Chevy 186.936
24 6 Mark Martin Ford 186.787
25 15 Michael Waltrip Chevy 186.638
26 41 Casey Mears Dodge 186.558
27 25 Brian Vickers Chevy 186.543
28 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge 186.507
29 21 Ricky Rudd Ford 186.438
30 07 Dave Blaney Chevy 186.325
31 00 Mike Skinner Chevy 186.206
32 19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge 186.141
33 4 Mike Wallace Chevy 186.043
34 33 Kerry Earnhardt Chevy 186.017
35 34 Hermie Sadler Ford 185.945
36 22 Scott Wimmer Dodge 185.916
37 66 Kevin Lepage Ford 185.801
38 45 Kyle Petty Dodge 185.254
39 49 Ken Schrader Dodge 184.662
40 43 Jeff Green Dodge 184.658
41-OP 2 Rusty Wallace Dodge 177.458
42-DQ 29 Kevin Harvick Chevy disallowed
43 37 Tony Raines Dodge 185.208
DNQ 32 Bobby Hamilton Jr. Chevy 184.794
DNQ 09 Johnny Sauter Dodge 183.371
DNQ 89 Morgan Shepherd Dodge 182.989

[R. Giles]

This is about Harvick's qualifying time being disqualified.

From Jayski:
NASCAR spokesman, Jim Hunter, addressed the media following qualifying with the following comment: "The No. 29 car's qualifying time has been disallowed. He (Harvick) will start Sunday's race from the rear. There were a couple of things in the rear area of the car did not comply with post-qualifying inspection. The trunk area was not sealed properly. It was not vented to the outside as prescribed in the rulebook. The shock doors inside the trunk area were opened and not secured. So there were several violations in the trunk area of the car. So there will probably be penalties coming out the first of the week. But that's why."(GM Racing PR)

[Bronko]

Cheat before the race.....time taken away and points lost.

Cheat to win the race.....no biggie as long as you drive for RoushDrick.

[sremmaz]

Hopefully I still get my 5 qualifying points damn it

[R. Giles]

Cheat before the race.....time taken away and points lost.

Cheat to win the race.....no biggie as long as you drive for RoushDrick.

Points would of been taken away from Johnson if the car stayed above the limit. Nascar tested the car again after the race had been over for awhile and the car passed. Really with Harvick's car that was his car for the race, maybe just minor changes to the shocks. Harvick tried this last year or earlier this year at a plate track so none of this should be surprising.