The Official NASCAR Fan Thread- Texas Motor Speedway, TX (04/06/08) Race 7

[Dirty Mo Posse]

He likes to waste his money.

LOL!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I cant wait for 24 hour race this weekend. Even though no good cars will be there. They have some intersting drivers.

Lot's of the cool protypes this year!!


:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Lot's of the cool protypes this year!!


:D

Posse

No way man they are all the same. They hold nothing compared to Le Mans prototypes.

[R. Giles]

The Daytona prototypes are a joke compared to an Audi prototype. Just be fun to watch for the driving pair ups.

[avsfan21]

28 days

Just to beat Posse to it.

[Leafsfan1967]

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2006/news/headlines/cup/01/23/ford.toyota.reax/newcamry.193.jpg

[Leafsfan1967]

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2006/news/headlines/cup/01/23/toyota.cup/camry.384.jpg

[Leafsfan1967]

Toyota to race Cup, Busch beginning in '07

Official Release
January 23, 2006
07:13 PM EST (00:13 GMT)

NASCAR and Toyota announced Monday the manufacturer's plans to expand its racing program by competing in the Nextel Cup and Busch series starting in 2007, fielding the Camry model.
The expansion will follow three years of Toyota competing in the Craftsman Truck Series, and will result in all three of NASCAR's national series having four manufacturers competing, as Toyota will join Chevrolet, Dodge and Ford.
NASCAR welcomes Toyota to the greatest auto racing in the world," said NASCAR chairman and CEO Brian France, who made the announcement at NASCAR's Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C.
"Toyota's entry into the NASCAR Nextel Cup Series and the NASCAR Busch Series is good for drivers, teams and the fans. This move provides for even more intense competition on the track between drivers and manufacturers, which will provide more excitement and fan interest. Toyota's entry also provides more options for drivers and teams, which will increase the competition between manufacturers."
"It's a great pleasure to announce Toyota's entry into the NASCAR Nextel Cup and NASCAR Busch Series with the Toyota Camry," said Dave Illingworth, senior vice president and chief planning and administrative officer for Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
Next year, 2007, will be a special year for Toyota in more ways than one. Toyota will be celebrating its 50th anniversary in the United States, and we will be joining the NASCAR Nextel Cup Series, America's premier racing series.
"Toyota has been an important part of the U.S. motorsports community for almost 25 years. We've competed and won in different series and on tracks across America. Toyota drivers and teams have won championships in a variety of different series. But, if you want to compete against the best in America, that means NASCAR.
"We look forward to February of 2007 when the green flag waves to start the Daytona 500 and the starting lineup features the Toyota Camry."
Illingworth, who joined France in making the announcement, said more information -- regarding possible sponsor and driver lineups -- will be released Tuesday night, during a media gathering at Lowe's Motor Speedway in Concord.
This year, Toyota is celebrating its 24th year of participation in American professional auto racing. Toyota drivers and teams have won championships in IMSA, CART, IRL and off-road racing. They have won such historic events as the Rolex 24 at Daytona, the 12 Hours of Sebring, the Baja 1000 and the Indianapolis 500.
Toyota moved into NASCAR in 2000, fielding the Celica model in the Goody's Dash Series. The following season, gave Toyota its first NASCAR victory, at Kentucky Speedway. In 2003, Huffman gave Toyota its first NASCAR championship by capturing the Goody's Dash title.
In 2004, Toyota entered the Truck Series with the Tundra -- in the process becoming the first new manufacturer in one of NASCAR's top series in more than 50 years. In two seasons of Truck competition, Tundra drivers have recorded 13 victories and 18 poles.

[Leafsfan1967]

Ford contingent skeptical of Toyota's Cup chances
By Ryan Smithson, NASCAR.COM
January 23, 2006
06:25 PM EST (23:25 GMT)


CONCORD, N.C. -- The Daytona 500 is still a month away, but most of the talk on the first day of the 2006 Nextel Cup Media Tour centered around the 2007 season.

NASCAR and Toyota officially announced their partnership in the 2007 Cup Series, giving the circuit four manufacturers for the first time in four seasons.

Greg Biffle to Toyota: Good luck, you're going to need it.

It remains to be seen what kind of impact Toyota can make in the series. When Dodge re-entered the series in 2001, it didn't make much of an immediate impact. Sterling Marlin was the lone driver to finish in the top 14 in points.

Greg Biffle says Toyota should expect a similar wait for results.

"They don't stand a chance," Biffle said. "The Toyota teams are going to be tough guys, but I am telling you what, this sport is so hard, so tough, there isn't anyone that can come in and be competitive right off."

Toytota has competed in the Craftsman Truck Series since 2003, and its Tundra came within 73 points of winning the title in 2005. After failing to record a victory in the season's first 11 races, Toyotas won nine of the final 14 events.



CAMRY TO CUP

NASCAR on Monday announced Toyota's plans to expand its racing program to the Cup and Busch series starting in 2007.

But Toyota said Monday that its Nextel Cup teams won't follow the pattern that made it so successful in the Craftsman Truck Series. Toyota always has heavily supported the teams financially and provided the same engineering help, and that will change in 2007.

Unlike Dodge in 2001, Toyota will not enter the sport by providing factory-sponsored teams. Its teams will be expected to find outside funding from existing or new sponsors.

Biffle said that the learning curve for teams is much steeper than in 2001, especially with some top teams simply struggling to win at the Nextel Cup level.

"It's going to take experience and it's going to take time," Biffle said. "How long is it going to take? How long will it take [Richard] Childress to win races on a regular basis?

"So you're starting about someone brand new, how long will it be before they are winning races constantly? This is a tough business and it is going to be difficult."

Biffle's teammate, Carl Edwards, said that Ford's work with the Fusion will help offset some of Toyota's advantages.

"This Fusion, they have put a lot of work into it and no one will let something happen that we don't want to happen without someone voicing our opinion," Edwards said. "Speculation is a pretty big thing."

Team owner Robert Yates, who has fielded Fords for nearly 20 years in the Nextel Cup Series, agreed that NASCAR's strict templates will make it tough for Toyota to dominate.

"I know our whole point is to race on Sunday and sell on Monday, so that's the part that I want to make sure we kick their butt," Yates said. "I'm sure they want to kick ours, but I think NASCAR handles the competition side of it so we can be competitive."__________________

[Leafsfan1967]

ttt

[R. Giles]

Ford needs to worry about how their company is doing. If it keeps sucking Ford won't be able to pay that money to race in Nascar.

[ramos]

Ford needs to worry about how their company is doing. If it keeps sucking Ford won't be able to pay that money to race in Nascar.

I think thats why they are worried. I think they see their replacement moving in and they dont like it.

[R. Giles]

i agree. dont sponsor a car if you cant pay employees. hersey is shooting itself in the foot with a .50 machine gun right now.

[ramos]

i agree. dont sponsor a car if you cant pay employees. hersey is shooting itself in the foot with a .50 machine gun right now.

Yeah we have some really PO'D coworkers.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

27 days!!

:D

Posse

[DMM77]

Micheal Waltrips ride for 2007....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/beko/55napa-toyota-1.jpg

[exanimate]

The Camry looks better than I thought it would.

[x90mattman]

I want to see a Car Of Tommorow in full sponsor makeup. They could have some fun with the front air valance.

Micheal Waltrips ride for 2007....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/beko/55napa-toyota-1.jpg

[Dirty Mo Posse]

The Camry looks better than I thought it would.

I agree!!

26 Days!!!

:D

Posse

[ajaxdog]

Dale Earnhardt Jr. " UNCUT " will be shown on CMT at 9:30 PST on Saturday.
Bump

[Dirty Mo Posse]

25 Days!!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

24 hours of Daytona is only 2 days away. Lucas Luhr is on the Pole.

[avsfan21]

The stupid Dysons killing Ollie Gavin, qualifying in 28th.

[R. Giles]

if his car stays running, Luhr and his team will be tough to beat.

[avsfan21]

The Lineup for the race if anyone cares. Find your favorite drivers.


1. 23 DP Luhr/ Rockenfeller/ Long 1:44.009 123.220
2. 10 DP Angelelli/ Taylor/ Collard/ Br 1:44.395 0.386 0.386 122.765
3. 02 DP Dixon/ Wheldon/ Mears 1:44.609 0.214 0.600 122.513
4. 99 DP Gurney/ Stallings/ Vasser/ Mor 1:44.675 0.066 0.666 122.436
5. 78 DP Bourdais/ Boesel/ Zacharias 1:44.691 0.016 0.682 122.417
6. 60 DP Negri/ Patterson/ Allmendinger 1:44.771 0.080 0.762 122.324
7. 19 DP Gidley/ McDowell/ Barron 1:44.827 0.056 0.818 122.259
8. 12 DP Fernandez/ Haberfeld/ Sharp 1:44.838 0.011 0.829 122.246
9. 28 DP Valiante/ Finlay/ Herta/ Rice 1:44.933 0.095 0.924 122.135
10. 3 DP Lewis/ Szekeres/ LaJoie/ Burge 1:44.944 0.011 0.935 122.122
11. 01 DP Pruett/ Diaz/ Papis 1:44.969 0.025 0.960 122.093
12. 59 DP Barbosa/ Haywood/ France/ Chri 1:44.983 0.014 0.974 122.077
13. 8 DP Bu Frisselle/ Br Frisselle/ Hu 1:44.996 0.013 0.987 122.062
14. 6 DP Tracy/ Wilden/ Mears Jr/ Borko 1:45.015 0.019 1.006 122.040
15. 39 DP Fittipaldi/ Cheever Jr/ Carpen 1:45.189 0.174 1.180 121.838
16. 58 DP Donohue/ Law/ Maassen 1:45.197 0.008 1.188 121.829
17. 89 DP Dalziel/ Figge/ Fogarty/ Empri 1:45.424 0.227 1.415 121.566
18. 7 DP D Franchitti/ Duno/ M Franchit 1:45.673 0.249 1.664 121.280
19. 2 DP Lammers/ Wallace/ Patrick/ McN 1:45.953 0.280 1.944 120.959
20. 51 DP Johansson/ Erdos/ Newton/ Hugh 1:46.074 0.121 2.065 120.821
21. 77 DP Borcheller/ Brix/ Barber/ Jour 1:46.254 0.180 2.245 120.617
22. 4 DP Wallace/ Leitzinger/ Stewart 1:46.393 0.139 2.384 120.459
23. 84 DP W Dallenbach/ Robinson/ P Dall 1:46.613 0.220 2.604 120.210
24. 40 DP Fellows/ Bingham/ Ruhlman/ Bel 1:46.742 0.129 2.733 120.065
25. 5 DP Dayton/ Knoop/ DeVries/ Matthe 1:46.981 0.239 2.972 119.797
26. 50 DP James/ Zogaib/ Nastasi/ Gleaso 1:47.221 0.240 3.212 119.529
27. 09 DP Goad/ Labonte/ Primat/ Oberto 1:47.634 0.413 3.625 119.070
28. 16 DP C Dyson/ R Dyson/ Gavin/ Smith 1:48.036 0.402 4.027 118.627
29. 11 DP Tuttle/ Petty/ Said 1:51.486 3.450 7.477 114.956
30. 72 GT Henzler/ Liddell/ van Overbeek 1:53.336 1.850 9.327 113.080
31. 74 GT Davis/ Lux/ Espenlaub/ Tafel/ 1:53.461 0.125 9.452 112.955
32. 82 GT Werner/ Peter/ Quester/ Riccit 1:53.726 0.265 9.717 112.692
33. 70 GT Tremblay/ Haskell/ Altenburg/ 1:53.846 0.120 9.837 112.573
34. 83 GT Farnbacher/ Fitzgerald/ Ehret/ 1:54.003 0.157 9.994 112.418
35. 36 GT Pobst/ Levitas/ Baas/ Pumpelly 1:54.053 0.050 10.044 112.369
36. 64 GT Edwards/ Collins/ Magnussen/ P 1:54.164 0.111 10.155 112.260
37. 05 GT Auberlen/ Alhadeff/ Milner/ Ma 1:54.322 0.158 10.313 112.104
38. 06 GT Archer/ Reese/ Oasis/ Crescent 1:54.574 0.252 10.565 111.858
39. 22 GT Dumoulin/ Assentato/ Longhi/ P 1:54.676 0.102 10.667 111.758
40. 80 GT Murry/ Keen/ Stanton/ Pomeidou 1:54.964 0.288 10.955 111.478
41. 17 GT Mowlem/ Arnold/ Sellers/ Shep/ 1:55.441 0.477 11.432 111.018
42. 65 GT Lally/ Bunting/ Valentine/ O'C 1:55.554 0.113 11.545 110.909
43. 41 GT WaNonnamaker/ JNonnamaker/ Non 1:56.016 0.462 12.007 110.468
44. 57 GT Rice/ Riggins/ Stevenson/ Tren 1:56.247 0.231 12.238 110.248
45. 00 GT Zitza/ Thomason/ Lewis Jr/ Whe 1:56.816 0.569 12.807 109.711
46. 93 GT Ave/ Stewart/ Stewart III/ Ste 1:57.255 0.439 13.246 109.300
47. 68 GT Pace/ Lowe/ Greist 1:57.440 0.185 13.431 109.128
48. 87 GT ***lord/ Hill/ Hill/ Diefenbac 1:57.681 0.241 13.672 108.905
49. 04 GT Sigal/ MacLeod/ Konopka/ Rosse 1:57.828 0.147 13.819 108.769
50. 69 GT Jo Vargo/ Ja Vargo/ Herrington 1:57.971 0.143 13.962 108.637
51. 52 GT Bertuzzi/ Monzon/ McCormick/ B 1:58.281 0.310 14.272 108.352
52. 71 GT Lacey/ Martini/ Wilkins/ Wilki 1:58.637 0.356 14.628 108.027
53. 21 GT Van Uitert/ Connolly/ de Quesa 1:58.829 0.192 14.820 107.852
54. 08 GT K Goldin/ S Goldin/ Finlay/ Ri 1:59.458 0.629 15.449 107.285
55. 24 GT O'Shaughnessy/ Cotter/ Malloy/ 1:59.614 0.156 15.605 107.145
56. 67 GT Flanagan/ Bullock/ Kroczek/ Ke 2:00.058 0.444 16.049 106.748
57. 81 GT Pew/ Marshall/ Marshall/ Prewi 2:00.887 0.829 16.878 106.016
58. 86 GT Kitch Jr/ Pennington/ Gagne/ P 2:01.861 0.974 17.852 105.169
59. 43 GT Allen/ Hennessy/ Michaelian/ M 2:01.920 0.059 17.911 105.118
60. 46 GT Mason/ Baughman/ Connolly/ Del 2:11.095 9.175 27.086 97.761
61. 66 GT Ortelli/ Johnson/ Nearn/ Sauva 6:46.484 4:35.38 5:02.47 31.529
62. 14 GT Friedman/ Small/ McGehee/ Herr No Time
63. 29 GT Kennedy/ Puleo/ Webb No Time
64. 32 GT Rosser No Time
65. 48 GT Seiler/ Hauser/ Dubler/ DeFont No Time
66. 55 GT Arnold/ Miller/ Koselke/ Posce No Time
67. 63 GT Spencer/ Spencer/ Mandeville/ No Time
68. 75 DP Krohn/ Jonsson/ Bergmeister/ B No Time
69. 92 GT Stewart/ Stewart III/ Gilbert/ No Time
70. 97 DP Cummins/ Ave No Time

[avsfan21]

I am suprised to not see Sascha Maassen teamed up with Lucas Luhr.

[R. Giles]

yeah they usually always team up. wow wallace/mcnish/patrick/lammers have some work to do.

[avsfan21]

Wonder if a DP car will actually finish the race. They always seem to break down.

[R. Giles]

i don't know. i have a feeling one will get to the last lap and break down.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

24 Days!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Looks like Kenseth is staying with Roush, too bad he would have looked good in the DEI stable!!

Former NASCAR champion Kenseth to stay with Roush


January 27, 2006

CONCORD, N.C. (AP) -- Former NASCAR champion Matt Kenseth has signed a multiyear contract extension with Roush Racing.

Kenseth, who won the final Winston Cup title in 2003, has been part of Jack Roush's organization since 1999 and has collected 10 Cup wins, three poles, 51 top five finishes and 99 top 10 finishes.

``We are very pleased that Matt extended his contract with Roush Racing,'' Roush said. ``Matt is one of the most talented drivers in the garage and he'll always hold a special place in our organization, having helped to bring us our first Cup championship in 2003.''

Roush will also field Cup cars in 2006 for Greg Biffle, Carl Edwards, Mark Martin and team newcomer Jamie McMurray, who replaced 2004 champion Kurt Busch. Busch left Roush to drive this year for Penske Racing South, replacing retired Rusty Wallace.

:D

Posse

[Bronko]

Anyone got any thoughts on Jr's statement today?

I expect to drive the 3 (http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/opinion/01/26/dearnhardtjr_three/index.html)

I don't know how I really feel about this.

[R. Giles]

So nice of Jr. to say that. He shouldn't say something so stupid especially in the profession he is in. Just look at what happened to Nadeau and Jr. could have it happen to him.

[x90mattman]

He talked about this last year too. I'd much rather see the 3 come back in the cup series (remember he's already driven the 3 in busch since his fathers death) with Jr at the helm then somebody else. But just like the article says, this is a long ways away even if it does happen.

Anyone got any thoughts on Jr's statement today?

I expect to drive the 3 (http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/opinion/01/26/dearnhardtjr_three/index.html)

I don't know how I really feel about this.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

If anyone should get to drive the #3 car it should be Jr!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

He talked about this last year too. I'd much rather see the 3 come back in the cup series (remember he's already driven the 3 in busch since his fathers death) with Jr at the helm then somebody else.

I agree!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

23 days!!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

He shouldn't say something so stupid especially in the profession he is in. Just look at what happened to Nadeau and Jr. could have it happen to him.

Unh???

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Danica is in the car now.

[avsfan21]

The DPs are starting to drop like flies.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

22 days!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Shouldnt it be 21 Days?

[Dirty Mo Posse]

18 Days!!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

17 days!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

16 Days!!

Just to beat posse to it :p

[Dirty Mo Posse]

16 Days!!

Just to beat posse to it :p

Bastage!!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

15 days till the 500!!

Only 7 Days till the Shootout!!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

:D

Posse

[Bronko]

I'll be glad to get Daytona over with just to stop seeing that damn green smile face everyday :p.

[avsfan21]

Thats actually a picture of Posse, he is that from Mars.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I'll be glad to get Daytona over with just to stop seeing that damn green smile face everyday :p.

That won't stop me!!! ;) ;)

:D

Posse

[exanimate]

I'll be glad to get Daytona over with just to stop seeing that damn green smile face everyday



You just messed up Bronko. I get PM's from him, and that is all that is in it. I think you just added yourself to the list. :D

[avsfan21]

You just messed up Bronko. I get PM's from him, and that is all that is in it. I think you just added yourself to the list. :D

Glad I am not in that club.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

You just messed up Bronko. I get PM's from him, and that is all that is in it. I think you just added yourself to the list. :D

;)

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Glad I am not in that club.

Welcome!!!

:D

Posse

[Bronko]

You just messed up Bronko. I get PM's from him, and that is all that is in it. I think you just added yourself to the list. :D

I'm honored :). Or as Posse would say:

:D

[Dirty Mo Posse]

14 Days!!

:D

Posse

[R. Giles]

Next Saturday night the Budweiser Shootout.

[avsfan21]

Of course it is I get to work.

[DonJuanHomer]

5 Days!!!! Too bad I work Saturdays = (

[Purdue_Pete]

Alrighty - 'bout time for some racin'!!!

I can't wait. The new cars look cool and it seems like this year is going to be wild.

Go #12!!!

[avsfan21]

12 Days!!!!!

:D

Posse


:p

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Haha!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Haha!!

:D

Posse

Slacking on us man. You missed yesterday and I beat you to it today.

[R. Giles]

On april 3 Carl Edwards will be on 24.

[avsfan21]

Hopefully Jack either tortures or kills him while he is doing a backflip.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Slacking on us man. You missed yesterday and I beat you to it today.

Sorry bro but some of us have a life!!! :p :p :p :p ;)

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

11 Days!!

:D

Posse

[R. Giles]

3 days till the shootout.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

10 More Days till The 500!!

2 More till The Shootout!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Bud Shootout Tomorrow Night!!!!

9 More Days Till The 500!!!

:D

Posse

[Bronko]

Someone figure out how many more days it is until we can see Kevin Harvick win the Nextel Cup :D.

Hey, a guy can dream :p.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Someone figure out how many more days it is until we can see Kevin Harvick win the Nextel Cup :D.

Hey, a guy can dream :p.

8395!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Schrader gains pole for Budweiser Shootout

February 9, 2006
By Bruce Martin SportsTicker Contributing Editor

DAYTONA BEACH, Florida (Ticker) - Ken Schrader proved it's "Nifty to be Fifty" as the aging NASCAR Nextel Cup veteran drew the pole for Saturday night's Budweiser Shootout.

The annual drawing among the pole winners from last season was held Thursday night at the Daytona 500 Club at Daytona International Speedway.

The 50-year-old driver from St. Louis, Missouri is celebrating his 21st season in Cup racing and first for the Wood Brothers team.

"I'm excited to be racing for the Wood Brothers," Schrader said after drawing the top starting spot. "(Heck), I'm very excited about just having a job. Heck, this hasn't been a bad week for us."

Schrader was the next-to-last of the 21 drivers to draw for position, and with only two hidden bottle caps left on the board, he was going to draw either the pole or 12th position. After asking the audience for help on which cap to turn over, the loudest ovation was for the one he selected.

Schrader's Ford Fusion will start alongside Jimmie Johnson's Chevrolet Monte Carlo in the front row. Schrader never has won the Budweiser Shootout or its predecessor, the Busch Clash.

Defending Nextel Cup champion Tony Stewart will start third in a Chevrolet, followed by Joe Nemechek's Chevy. Kasey Kahne's Dodge starts fifth.

Fan favorite Dale Earnhardt Jr. was one of three drivers left to draw with the pole still available but grabbed the 19th spot in the 21-car field.

When asked what he liked about the Bud Shootout, Earnhardt's response was typical.

"Because it's a short race," he said.

Earnhardt won this race in 2003.

Other notable racers include three-time Daytona 500 winner Dale Jarrett, who starts ninth in a Ford, and three-time 500 winner and four-time Cup champion Jeff Gordon, who is 10th.

Michael Waltrip's Dodge starts last.


Dale Jr starting 19th!! :mad: :mad:

:D

Posse

[txrebel1013]

Someone figure out how many more days it is until we can see Kevin Harvick win the Nextel Cup :D.

Hey, a guy can dream :p.

hopefully about 10 months! thatd make my year for sure!

[avsfan21]

Practice for the shootout is on at 4 on speed

[R. Giles]

well probably watch it just to see some action.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Practice for the shootout is on at 4 on speed

Keep me updated as I will be working till 7!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

If you really want to watch it. It will come back on at 11 tonight.

[avsfan21]

Woohoo talking to Jeffy. 2006 Daytona 500 winner and Nascar Champion.

[R. Giles]

talking to sadler about the crappy fusion.

[avsfan21]

Doesnt look like many special paint jobs for the Shootout this year.

[avsfan21]

Jimmie Johnson didnt sign in for practice.

[avsfan21]

Bill Elliott in a Chevy.

[alphawhite]

Team Petty bump, even though they aren't in the Shootout

[avsfan21]

I hate the stupid Dale Earnhardt rule that gets people into the shooutout that shouldnt be.

[R. Giles]

not a big fan of the new speed channel graphics.

[R. Giles]

yeah elliott is in a chevy just for daytona.

[avsfan21]

If they took off that stupid huge black thing above the scrolling stats, it wouldnt be bad. But the black top taks like 10% of the screen away.

[avsfan21]

Vickers engine is no more only after 8 laps.

[R. Giles]

matt kenseth was fastest in the first practice.

[avsfan21]

I thought they said Kyle Busch was fastests right before they went off air.

[R. Giles]

maybe they did. some car was fastest.

[avsfan21]

I think practice is still going on to tell you the truth, wonder why the cut coverage to show stupid nascar live. Like anyone cares about these stupid guys talking.

[R. Giles]

i know there will be another practice later tonight probably around 7.

[avsfan21]

They are just talking and you can hear the cars behind them and Nascar.com says that shootout practice is still going, when I went there to check the speeds.

[avsfan21]

Ok I guess it just went a little long with the red flag. It is over now Kyle Busch was fastest.

[ImAWalkingCorpse]

Ok I guess it just went a little long with the red flag. It is over now Kyle Busch was fastest.

I saw that and I am not too surprised, I picked him on another site as the nextel cup champion this year.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

How did Jr's car look??

Hard to tell with him at Daytona!! You never know what he has till the Race starts!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

He was the fastest for a while there.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Here are the speeds from NASCAR!! Looks like Jr was second fastest!! ;)

Poor Mikey was last, almost 7MPH slower then the leader!! :eek: :eek: :eek:


Budweiser Shootout | Daytona International Speedway

February 11, 2006 | Exhibition | Practice 1

Rank Car Driver Make Sponsor Speed Time Behind
1 #5 Kyle Busch Chevrolet Kellogg's 190.343 47.283 Leader
2 #8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Budweiser 190.247 47.307 -0.024
3 #29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet GM Goodwrench 189.757 47.429 -0.146
4 #99 Carl Edwards Ford Office Depot 189.354 47.530 -0.247
5 #11 Denny Hamlin Chevrolet FedEx Express 189.298 47.544 -0.261
6 #38 Elliott Sadler Ford M&M's 189.274 47.550 -0.267
7 #26 Jamie McMurray Ford Crown Royal 189.068 47.602 -0.319
8 #01 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet U.S. Army 189.060 47.604 -0.321
9 #25 Brian Vickers Chevrolet GMAC 189.032 47.611 -0.328
10 #12 Ryan Newman Dodge ALLTEL 188.897 47.645 -0.362
11 #10 Scott Riggs Dodge Valvoline/Stanley Tools 188.885 47.648 -0.365
12 #24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet DuPont 188.830 47.662 -0.379
13 #136 Bill Elliott Chevrolet Ginn Clubs & Resorts 188.762 47.679 -0.396
14 #6 Mark Martin Ford AAA 188.723 47.689 -0.406
15 #9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Dodge Dealers/UAW 188.719 47.690 -0.407
16 #21 Ken Schrader Ford Little Debbie 188.616 47.716 -0.433
17 #20 Tony Stewart Chevrolet The Home Depot 188.612 47.717 -0.434
18 #88 Dale Jarrett Ford UPS 188.415 47.767 -0.484
19 #17 Matt Kenseth Ford DeWalt Power Tools 188.253 47.808 -0.525
20 #48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's 188.202 47.821 -0.538
21 #55 Michael Waltrip Dodge NAPA Auto Parts 183.509 49.044 -1.761


* Denotes Rookie


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Posse

[Bronko]

Uh, yeah....Harvick is a beast ;).

[Dirty Mo Posse]

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Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Here are the Speeds for the 2nd Shootout Practice!!

1#20Tony StewartChevroletThe Home Depot193.89946.416Leader
2#99Carl EdwardsFordOffice Depot193.88646.419-0.003
3#11Denny HamlinChevroletFedEx Express193.05046.620-0.204
4#5Kyle BuschChevroletKellogg's192.18946.829-0.413
5#9Kasey KahneDodgeDodge Dealers/UAW191.55146.985-0.569
6#10Scott RiggsDodgeValvoline/Stanley Tools191.54646.986-0.570
7#48Jimmie JohnsonChevroletLowe's191.49346.999-0.583
8#24Jeff GordonChevroletDuPont191.43247.014-0.598
9#29Kevin HarvickChevroletGM Goodwrench191.37947.027-0.611
10#26Jamie McMurrayFordCrown Royal191.35547.033-0.617
11#17Matt KensethFordDeWalt Power Tools190.70647.193-0.777
12#88Dale JarrettFordUPS190.59347.221-0.805
13#136Bill ElliottChevroletGinn Clubs & Resorts189.96247.378-0.962
14#25Brian VickersChevroletGMAC189.80547.417-1.001
15#6Mark MartinFordAAA189.57447.475-1.059
16#01Joe NemechekChevroletU.S. Army189.50647.492-1.076
17#21Ken SchraderFordLittle Debbie189.47447.500-1.0841
18#12Ryan NewmanDodgeALLTEL189.27447.550-1.134
19#55Michael WaltripDodgeNAPA Auto Parts189.27447.550-1.134
20#8Dale Earnhardt Jr.ChevroletBudweiser189.09647.595-1.179
21#38Elliott SadlerFordM&M's188.99247.621-1.205

* Denotes Rookie

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Posse






Posse

[R. Giles]

raining at daytona, looks like the race is on hold.

[R. Giles]

tomorrow will be a long day. ARCA at 9:30 a.m., Nascar qualifying 12:10 p.m and budweiser shootout 4 p.m.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Damn!!

Rain Out!!

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Posse

[Leafsfan1967]

Seeing Kurt Busch in the #2 car is just plain wrong, man! :mad:

[R. Giles]

yes it is.

[R. Giles]

the front row for daytona is jeff burton 1 and jeff gordon 2.

[Bronko]

The RCR revival is upon us :D

[R. Giles]

its shootout time.

[Leafsfan1967]

:confused: I can't find the race! :eek:

[R. Giles]

here its on TNT.

[R. Giles]

Danny Hamlin wins the shootout.

[sillshock]

Nice to see a fresh face in Victory Lane.. Congrats to Denny Hamlin!

[Dirty Mo Posse]

:confused: I can't find the race! :eek:

It wasn't shown on Canadian TV untill Midnight Last Night on TSN!! :mad:

Good thing I taped it and never checked the internet to see who won!!!

Nice to see Hamlin win, great finish by Jr!

Kyle Busch is an idiot, lucky he didn't get his head caved in by a couple of the drivers he took out!!

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Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Burton gets the pole!! Surprise Surprise the idiot Jimmie Johnson gets disqualified!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



Strange, wild day at Daytona

February 13, 2006

AP - Feb 12, 8:53 pm EST
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DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Disqualifications and complaints about safety issues overshadowed the racing on the first real day of action of the new NASCAR season.

Jeff Burton gave Richard Childress Racing the Daytona 500 pole and some added hope for a turnaround of fortunes this year, while rookie Denny Hamlin surprised the field in the Budweiser Shootout exhibition race Sunday.

But the long day -- made longer by the Shootout being postponed from Saturday night by rain -- ended with Nextel Cup stars Jimmie Johnson and Terry Labonte having their qualifying laps set aside for rules infractions and Hamlin's veteran teammate Tony Stewart saying the practice of ``bump drafting'' at Daytona International Speedway is going to get someone hurt or killed.

Among the 58 drivers who made qualifying attempts Sunday on the 2.5-mile track, only Burton and runner-up Jeff Gordon, the three-time and defending Daytona 500 champion, locked in starting positions for next Sunday's race.

The rest of the drivers simply earned starting spots in one of two 150-mile qualifying races Thursday.

Johnson, who had the fifth-fastest lap in time trials, and two-time Cup champion Labonte, who was 28th, will both have to start from the rear in the first of those events.

NASCAR spokesman Jim Hunter left open the possibility that their cars could be confiscated by the governing body. Additional penalties also could follow. Hunter said Johnson's Chevrolet did not meet template specifications and Labonte's Chevy had unapproved modifications to the carburetor.

Even as NASCAR inspectors were checking out the cars from qualifying, baby-faced 25-year-old Hamlin was outdueling his elders in the 70-lap Shootout, a race for the previous year's pole winners and former winners of the made-for-TV event.

The veterans bumped and banged on his rear bumper, trying to shove the newcomer, with only seven Cup races at the end of last season under his belt, out of the way. Nothing shook the youngster, though.

``The back bumper is literally ripped off the race car just from getting hit so hard,'' said Hamlin, the youngest and new member of Joe Gibbs Racing.

Teams are required to use carburetor restrictor-plates at Daytona, NASCAR's fastest track, to sap the horsepower and reduce the speeds around the 2 1/2 -mile track. The result is a long pack of cars unable to separate from one another, forcing drivers to bump draft in an attempt to shove each other out of the way and make a pass.

It's dangerous and Stewart, the reigning Cup champion and Hamlin's teammate, angrily predicted it will lead to disaster at the track where Dale Earnhardt was killed five years ago in an accident.

``They're talking about the tribute to Dale Earnhardt, well, five years from now, we're going to have to do another tribute to another driver because we're probably going to kill somebody (next week),'' Stewart barked. ``It could be me, it could be Dale Jr., it could be anybody out there.''

Not everyone agreed.

Dale Earnhardt Jr., who finished second to Hamlin, was less critical of the conditions, chalking up much of the aggression to the nothing-to-lose mentality of the non-points Shootout. With the Daytona 500 title on the line next Sunday, Junior believes the event will be less treacherous.

``Tony's got a point, it was a dangerous in a couple of spots,'' he said. ``It's just hard racing, but it's only going to happen in the Shootout. In the 500, it will not be like that. Everybody will be a lot more calm.''

Hamlin sided with Earnhardt in the safety debate.

``There was some major hitting going on out there, but I wasn't complaining because when I was getting it, I was out front,'' said Hamlin, who led 16 of the 70 laps. ``It's the nature of the race. I don't think you'll see that in the 500 because guys won't want to tear up their cars like that.''

Hamlin appeared headed toward an easy win when Stewart used a wide pass to take the lead away from him with four laps to go. Seconds later, though, a caution flag came out for debris on the track, setting up a two-lap shootout to the finish.

Stewart restarted on the bottom of the track, with Hamlin right next to him. Hamlin quickly moved out front, then held off challenges from Stewart and Earnhardt. Stewart finished third, followed by Scott Riggs and defending race winner Johnson.

Burton, who hadn't won a pole in more than five years, wasn't in the Shootout. But he and team owner Richard Childress were ecstatic after taking the top spot for NASCAR's biggest event.

``It's big,'' Burton said after getting an emotional bearhug from his boss. ``Hopefully, it's another sign that this team is getting ready to turn things around.''

Childress had one of the strongest teams in the sport until longtime driver and friend Earnhardt was killed in a crash during the 2001 Daytona 500. Kevin Harvick had a good season for RCR after replacing Earnhardt the following week at Rockingham, but the team has struggled in the years since.

Childress was determined to turn things around, making numerous personnel changes and radically improving the team's equipment since the end of last season. This was the first big test.

``Yeah, it's emotional,'' Childress said. ``We've struggled for the last few years. We've got to put it all together and we've got to start winning.''

It was the third career pole for Burton and first since the fall 2000 race in Richmond, when he was driving for Roush Racing.

His fast lap of 189.151 mph on a windy, chilly day at Daytona International Speedway was the fastest qualifying run at Daytona since Dale Jarrett's 191.091 in February 2000.


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Posse

[sillshock]

I hate Jimmie Johnson... Hope he wrecks in the 150... I now apologize to all fans of JJ for my remark!

[R. Giles]

yesterday they were talking about issues with jeff burton and jeff gordon's cars. those comments by jr. show you that he will never be a great driver. the other drivers understand bump drafting is dangerous but jr. doesn't understand that.

[R. Giles]

tony gave a solution to the problem. jr. was saying crew chiefs would work around it, how. if nascar says the front end can't have 2 x 4's in them the front end will always be soft and crushable.

[R. Giles]

yeah kyle was trying to kill someone out there. what was up with the calling carl edwards into the pits for a penalty when he was trying to aviod a wreck.

[Bronko]

Did anyone else know Jr is dating the widow of Ricky Hendrick :eek:

[RoninJai]

Kyle Busch is an idiot. It appears that he inherited the job of "causing as much damages as possible and taking no responsibility for it" from his teammate JJ.

[avsfan21]

Kyle Busch is an idiot. It appears that he inherited the job of "causing as much damages as possible and taking no responsibility for it" from his teammate JJ.

I was thinking more of that he is taking after his brother.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

. those comments by jr. show you that he will never be a great driver. the other drivers understand bump drafting is dangerous but jr. doesn't understand that.

What the hell are you talking about????? :confused: :confused:

Earnhardt Jr. said. "It was brought up last year and guys had the right idea. I don't think softening the guys' rear bumper in front of you is the answer, I think it's softening the front bumper."

Don't know what interview you were listeniong too but it sounds like he doesn't like it either and thinks it is getting out of hand!

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Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Cheaters never prosper!!! Bye Bye Chad!! Your as big as if not a bigger loser then your chump Driver!!

Knaus ejected from Daytona after disqualification

By MARK LONG, AP Sports Writer

February 13, 2006

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Jimmie Johnson's crew chief was thrown out of the Daytona 500 on Monday for illegal modifications made to Johnson's car during pole qualifying.

Chad Knaus was accused of raising the rear window on the No. 48 Chevrolet to alter aerodynamics during Johnson's run Sunday. The infraction was discovered in a post-qualifying inspection when the car failed to fit NASCAR templates.


NASCAR said Knaus cannot appeal the ejection.

NASCAR also said the Hendrick Motorsports team could be subject to additional penalties, which would be announced after Sunday's Daytona 500.

Team owner Rick Hendrick said lead engineer Darian Grubb will replace Knaus as crew chief for Sunday's ``Great American Race.''

``It's obviously disappointing to miss the biggest race of the year, but I'm confident in Darian and the rest of my teammates,'' Knaus said in a statement.

Johnson finished fifth in pole qualifying, but he will have to start from the rear of the field during Thursday's 150-mile races that sets the rest of the Daytona 500 lineup.

``We understand NASCAR's position,'' Hendrick said in a statement. ``Our expectations for the team remain high. It's a deep, championship-caliber group and they'll step up this weekend.''

Two-time NASCAR champion Terry Labonte also had his qualifying run disallowed Sunday, but the series said any penalties against that team would not be announced until next week.

NASCAR acted quickly against the 34-year-old Knaus, possibly because he has been penalized repeatedly for rules infractions.

Knaus was suspended two races and fined $35,000 last year because Johnson's race-winning car failed to meet the minimum height requirement during post-race inspection at Las Vegas. The team also was docked 25 championship points.

Knaus successfully appealed the suspension, getting it reduced to 90 days of probation, but the fine and points penalty were upheld.

He also was fined more than $30,000 over the 2002 and 2003 seasons for various violations, including one for cursing on live television.

The latest suspension might be applauded in some NASCAR garages. Several teams complained publicly last year that Knaus was receiving special treatment because his two-race suspension was overturned and he avoided trouble when NASCAR discovered modified shock absorbers on the No. 48 following a race at Dover International Speedway.

``There's a little bit of a double standard,'' driver Kevin Harvick, whose crew chief was suspended twice last season for a total of six races, said last week. ``There's probably a reason why Chad Knaus maybe has been brown-nosing too much. I don't know. Maybe we need to brown-nose a little more.''

Knaus is widely considered the best crew chief in the garage -- a title that can be both satisfying and stigmatizing.

He's driven, demanding, ultra-confident and creative. A Ray Evernham protege, Knaus learned much of what he knows from working under Evernham as an original member of the ``Rainbow Warriors,'' the crew that pushed Jeff Gordon to three of his NASCAR championships.

Evernham's imprint can be found in much of what Knaus does -- to the point where he's often chided and referred to as ``Little Ray'' around the garage.

Evernham also was cited numerous times as a crew chief for violations, including the biggest fine in NASCAR history -- a $60,000 penalty in 1995 for using an unapproved suspension part on Gordon's car.

AP Motorsports Writer Jenna Fryer contributed to this report.


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Posse

[R. Giles]

What the hell are you talking about????? :confused: :confused:

Earnhardt Jr. said. "It was brought up last year and guys had the right idea. I don't think softening the guys' rear bumper in front of you is the answer, I think it's softening the front bumper."

Don't know what interview you were listeniong too but it sounds like he doesn't like it either and thinks it is getting out of hand!

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Posse

maybe i heard it differently. it just sounded like jr. was condoning the bump drafting yesterday after stewart said soften up the front bumpers.

[R. Giles]

im happy knaus is gone for the 500. i can't stand knaus.

[Bronko]

I'm glad France and Helton finally got the kutzpah to do something about Knaus. They have no problem attacking Todd Berrier, so it's about time someone else felt their wrath.

[x90mattman]

I heard what you heard. Today's interview I heard Jr called it a "Neccessary Evil". He went on to say however that we're not going to see what happened today at the 500. He said this is what happens in a shoot out atmosphere, but that things will calm down for the 500.

Matt

maybe i heard it differently. it just sounded like jr. was condoning the bump drafting yesterday after stewart said soften up the front bumpers.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Twins going tomorrow bump!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Rain Rain go away.

[jerm8352]

I'll be there. Hoping to meet Jeff Gordon!!!

[avsfan21]

We are under way in the 1st 150. Only about an hour and 30 minutes after the start of coverage.

[Leafsfan1967]

We are under way in the 1st 150. Only about an hour and 30 minutes after the start of coverage.

Suppose to be on TSN here, but freakin woman's curling is on! :confused: Is it raining again? What channel?

[avsfan21]

Its on TNT here. Hopefully the rain will stay away. I think I wont be able to catch most of the 2nd race now. Since I have to leave for work in about an hour.

[avsfan21]

Come on Curling is so much better than Nascar. I hope it is the US, because Cassie Johnson is kind of cute.

[Leafsfan1967]

5000 flippin channels here, and no TNT! :mad:

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I thought it was on TSn at 2pm Troy??

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Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Keep me posted with updates!!

Here at work!!

How is Dale Jr doing?? Top 10 yet??

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Jr is 13th right now Paul Menard is having troubles.

[avsfan21]

I wish I had TSN I want to see the Curling if it is Team US. I am taping the race anyway since I cant watch the whole thing.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Jr is 13th right now Paul Menard is having troubles.

Thanks!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Paul Menard just Crashed.

[Leafsfan1967]

We won't get USA curling here on the CBC coverage unless they play Canada. Would have to watch US coverage! Race not on TSN. Probably taped it, and will show it tonight in the middle of the night!

[avsfan21]

Ok just wondering because that is the Curling game that is going on right now, wasnt sure if it wasnt sure if they were showing that or not.

[avsfan21]

Jr is blistering his tires.

[avsfan21]

Paul Menard wont be in the 500.

[avsfan21]

Damn it Rain on the Backstrech.

[avsfan21]

Red Flag :(

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Jr is blistering his tires.

Damn!!!

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Posse

[avsfan21]

Crazy Marlin and Jarrett just wrecked under yellow.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Crazy Marlin and Jarrett just wrecked under yellow.

What!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

How many laps left!! Where is Jr!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Going to be a green-white-checkered finish for the 1st 150

[avsfan21]

Sadler won the 1st race. Jr was 3rd I think. They were too busy showing who would make the race or not, didnt see him cross the line.

[DonJuanHomer]

Alrighty, at work have my pit command open. I am ready for race #2 to start. So I can root on Labonte, and his new Cholestorol Reducing driving machine!!!!

[Bronko]

Robby Gordon and Kevin Harvick have agreed to work together :eek: A few years too late don't ya think ;).

[Bronko]

Joe Nemechek blows up for caution 1.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Kyle Busch wrecked anybody yet??

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Posse

[Bronko]

Not yet, but TNT hasn't been showing the leaders so who knows what's going on up there.

[R. Giles]

Jeff Gordon won the 2nd race. Mike Wallace made the race and I know Scott Riggs missed the race.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Here is the starting grid for the 500!!!


Order Driver (No.) Car Qualifying Speed
1 Jeff Burton (31) Chevrolet 189.151 mph
2 Jeff Gordon (24) Chevrolet 188.877 mph
3 Elliott Sadler (38) Ford 188.810 mph
4 Kyle Busch (5) Chevrolet 187.570 mph
5 Carl Edwards (99) Ford 186.614 mph
6 Jamie McMurray (26) Ford 187.743 mph
7 Dale Earnhardt Jr. (8) Chevrolet 185.124 mph
8 Bobby Labonte (43) Dodge 187.935 mph
9 Jimmie Johnson (48) Chevrolet --
10 Mark Martin (6) Ford 186.436 mph
11 Matt Kenseth (17) Ford --
12 Kyle Petty (45) Dodge 184.794 mph
13 Kurt Busch (2) Dodge 187.539 mph
14 Casey Mears (42) Dodge 186.127 mph
15 Tony Stewart (20) Chevrolet 187.196 mph
16 Greg Biffle (16) Ford 186.672 mph
17 Denny Hamlin (11) Chevrolet 187.488 mph
18 Ryan Newman (12) Dodge 185.774 mph
19 Martin Truex Jr. (1) Chevrolet 185.242 mph
20 Robby Gordon (7) Chevrolet 186.850 mph
21 Jeff Green (66) Chevrolet 186.990 mph
22 Reed Sorenson (41) Dodge 186.289 mph
23 Ken Schrader (21) Ford 186.043 mph
24 Mike Wallace (109) Dodge 182.953 mph
25 Dale Jarrett (88) Ford 188.849 mph
26 Jeremy Mayfield (19) Dodge 186.908 mph
27 Kasey Kahne (9) Dodge 186.691 mph
28 Kevin Harvick (29) Chevrolet 187.406 mph
29 Brent Sherman (49) Dodge 182.142 mph
30 Michael Waltrip (55) Dodge 183.411 mph
31 Kevin Lepage (61) Ford 186.097 mph
32 David Stremme (40) Dodge 184.543 mph
33 Bill Elliott (136) Chevrolet 187.715 mph
34 Dave Blaney (22) Dodge 184.566 mph
35 Brian Vickers (25) Chevrolet 187.239 mph
36 J.J. Yeley (18) Chevrolet 187.207 mph
37 Clint Bowyer (07) Chevrolet 187.786 mph
38 Joe Nemechek (01) Chevrolet 187.402 mph
39 Sterling Marlin (14) Chevrolet 187.274 mph
40 Travis Kvapil (32) Chevrolet 187.106 mph
41 Hermie Sadler (00) Ford 187.025 mph
42 Kirk Shelmerdine (27) Chevrolet 185.361 mph
43 Terry Labonte (96) Chevrolet --

Did Not Qualify
Driver (No.) Car Qualifying Speed
Scott Riggs (10) Dodge 180.890 mph
Kenny Wallace (178) Chevrolet 181.594 mph
Scott Wimmer (4) Chevrolet 184.854 mph
Mike Skinner (23) Dodge 182.771 mph
Derrike Cope (74) Dodge 183.333 mph
Larry Gunselman (152) Dodge 181.214 mph
Chad Blount (37) Dodge 181.906 mph
Larry Foyt (50) Dodge 185.128 mph
Andy Belmont (159) Chevrolet 179.960 mph
Randy LaJoie (34) Chevrolet 184.540 mph
Morgan Shepherd (89) Dodge 183.576 mph
Chad Chaffin (92) Chevrolet 181.763 mph
Carl Long (180) Ford 176.935 mph
Paul Menard (15) Chevrolet 185.334 mph
Stanton Barrett Jr. (195) Chevrolet 185.322 mph


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Posse

[DonJuanHomer]

Nice, was listening to the race via the track pass(well when I was nottaking calls). So, for those that were watching. How did Bobby look. I know he was leading like the first dozen. Dropped back. But finished a nice strong 4th. So a second part to my question. Does it look promising for Labonte and his Cholestorol Reducing machine for this season!!!!

[R. Giles]

only got to see the last 25 laps of the 2nd race. can't tell how bobby did since they weren't showing the leaders much. i think at daytona he should be fine since he had a strong qualifying run. the evernham engines worked good and think the car should be fine unless it flips or wrecks.

[DonJuanHomer]

only got to see the last 25 laps of the 2nd race. can't tell how bobby did since they weren't showing the leaders much. i think at daytona he should be fine since he had a strong qualifying run. the evernham engines worked good and think the car should be fine unless it flips or wrecks.

Thanks, good to hear, and knock on wood for your last comments!!!

[R. Giles]

bobby labonte is going to be on trackside tonight on speed channel. so he will discuss how he has done.

[R. Giles]

trackside is on right now but will be replayed later on for the west coast folks.

[avsfan21]

I was not impressed with the TNT coverage. I wanted to see Jeff win the race not watch who came in 12th spot. I dont really care if it was for the transfer spot. They did it in the first race also, following two cars for the trasfer spot, which ended up being the wrong two cars and neither of them got into the race. You didnt even get to see the leader take the checkered flag in either of the 150s. Dumb on TNTs part.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

2 More Days Boys!!!!!

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Posse

[Leafsfan1967]

2 More Days Boys!!!!!

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Posse

Two more days till the 5th anniversary of the death of Dale Sr. :(

[ramos]

Two more days till the 5th anniversary of the death of Dale Sr. :(

Seems like it was yesterday. Too bad my boy Harvick is off to a crappy start. The car was junk yesterday. If it keeps going this way it looks like another long season.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Two more days till the 5th anniversary of the death of Dale Sr. :(

Actually Tomorrow is the anniversary of his death. :(

Feb 18th 2001

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Posse

[Leafsfan1967]

Actually Tomorrow is the anniversary of his death. :(

Feb 18th 2001

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Posse

Pretty sure it was the 19th. It was on my dad's birthday, but maybe we went out for dinner on the 18th!

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Pretty sure it was the 19th. It was on my dad's birthday, but maybe we went out for dinner on the 18th!

http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0885505.html


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Posse

[avsfan21]

Posse is right it was the 18th.

[Leafsfan1967]

So I will cry at midnight tonight, then! :( And, I can stop blaming it on my dad! :D

~ looks around for someone born on the 18th to blame ~

[avsfan21]

~ looks around for someone born on the 18th to blame ~

Here you go, you have a whole list to pick from.

http://us.imdb.com/OnThisDay?day=18&month=February

[silvrhawk]

Headed to Daytona in the AM cant make to the Busch race but I wont miss the 500:D :D :D :D

[DonJuanHomer]

trackside is on right now but will be replayed later on for the west coast folks.

Damn it, I missed it. Plus I have DirectTv, so I have no delayed feed...

[avsfan21]

I still hate all those shows on Speed. I refuse to watch them. Trackside, nascar live, all that crap.

[silvrhawk]

Anyone see the wreck in the IROC race? Hope Kinser is ok, if you didnt see it he flipped over and slid on the roof of his car a long way

[R. Giles]

missed the wreck, got home after it happened. glad all the drivers are ok and 6 cars battling for the lead.

[ramos]

Martin was PO'd at Hornish.

[avsfan21]

Truck race about to get under way.

[R. Giles]

race is underway with about 10 trucks going half the speed of the front trucks. so they can miss the big one if it happens in the front.

[avsfan21]

I can not believe they have just sponsored the lucky dog title. Nascar would sell the rights to its own jimmy if they could.

[R. Giles]

would be funny if martin starts the bigone.

[ramos]

I can not believe they have just sponsored the lucky dog title. Nascar would sell the rights to its own jimmy if they could.

Lol you know it. It sounds funny to hear Mikey say the "Aarons lucky dog"

[avsfan21]

I guess Bill Lester isnt going to win his first race today

[Bronko]

Mark Martin wins the truck race.

[x90mattman]

They started that last year. Last year it was the "Ballpark Lucky Dog", fits a lot better than Aarons.

I can not believe they have just sponsored the lucky dog title. Nascar would sell the rights to its own jimmy if they could.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

RIP Dale Sr!!

:(

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Hershey's Kissables 300 Busch Race is underway!!

Edwards is out, not sure if anyone else is!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Jr is in the lead.

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

I want wait until the whole field wrecks on this restart.

[avsfan21]

Saw that one coming.

[avsfan21]

Anyway Tony won the race.

[Bronko]

Wow, what a finish. And how dare Delana root for her cars over Kevin :D

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Anyway Tony won the race.

Where did Jr end up??

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Posse

[avsfan21]

Not near the front I believe, he got shuffled back on the last restart.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Great to see Tracy in NASCAR!!

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060218/i/r4045942204.jpg

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Posse

[avsfan21]

Too bad he wrecked.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Confident Gordon skips final Daytona practice

February 18, 2006

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Wearing jeans, a designer shirt and fancy sunglasses, Jeff Gordon watched the final practice for the Daytona 500 from atop his hauler Saturday.

Looking confident and composed, the only thing Gordon and his team had left to do was check out the competition.

``We've spent the last three months getting ready for this race. If one more hour makes that much of a difference, then shame on us,'' said Steve Letarte, crew chief for the No. 24 Chevrolet.

Maybe Gordon and Letarte were playing mind games with other teams, giving the appearance of being ready and not wanting to show too much so close to the season-opening race.

``I am sure it affects people, but that was not our goal,'' Letarte said. ``I'm sure there's people that are bothered by it, but we've been preparing for three months. We attacked it like (Friday) was going to be our final practice and he had a good run. He came in and said he had a lot of speed and he knows best.''

Gordon, the defending Daytona 500 champion, won one of the 150-mile qualifying races Thursday and will start on the outside pole Sunday. He also showed good speed in the first five practice sessions.

``From here on out it's just race adjustments,'' Gordon said.

Ken Schrader had the fastest practice lap Saturday, just ahead of teammates Martin Truex Jr. and Dale Earnhardt Jr.

Hermie Sadler was the only other driver who didn't run any practice laps on the high-banked oval. But unlike Gordon, he wasn't even at the track.

Sadler, the older brother of Elliott Sadler, took his youngest daughter to Disney World in nearby Orlando to celebrate making The Great American Race for the first time in his career. He also had another reason to skip town.

``We didn't want to take a chance of something happening during practice,'' Sadler said.<



Time will tell if it was a good move or not!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Here are the Final Happy Hour Speeds!

Rank Car Driver Make Sponsor Speed Time Behind
1 #21 Ken Schrader Ford Little Debbie 192.686 46.708 Leader
2 #1 Martin Truex Jr.* Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops/Tracker 192.505 46.752 -0.044
3 #8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Budweiser 191.992 46.877 -0.169
4 #66 Jeff Green Chevrolet Best Buy 191.714 46.945 -0.237
5 #61 Kevin Lepage Ford Amp Energy Drink 191.701 46.948 -0.240
6 #88 Dale Jarrett Ford UPS 191.506 46.996 -0.288
7 #14 Sterling Marlin Chevrolet Waste Management 191.485 47.001 -0.293
8 #45 Kyle Petty Dodge Wells Fargo Financial 191.379 47.027 -0.319
9 #31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet Cingular Wireless 191.136 47.087 -0.379
10 #49 Brent Sherman* Dodge Serta 191.079 47.101 -0.393
11 #19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge Dodge Dealers/UAW 190.937 47.136 -0.428
12 #41 Reed Sorenson* Dodge Target 190.900 47.145 -0.437
13 #43 Bobby Labonte Dodge Cheerios/Betty Crocker 190.819 47.165 -0.457
14 #11 Denny Hamlin* Chevrolet FedEx Express 190.722 47.189 -0.481
15 #16 Greg Biffle Ford National Guard 190.714 47.191 -0.483
16 #25 Brian Vickers Chevrolet GMAC 190.674 47.201 -0.493
17 #18 J.J. Yeley* Chevrolet Interstate Batteries 190.674 47.201 -0.493
18 #48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's 190.670 47.202 -0.494
19 #20 Tony Stewart Chevrolet The Home Depot 190.621 47.214 -0.506
20 #01 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet U.S. Army 190.460 47.254 -0.546
21 #136 Bill Elliott Chevrolet Ginn Clubs & Resorts 190.424 47.263 -0.555
22 #6 Mark Martin Ford AAA 190.355 47.280 -0.572
23 #07 Clint Bowyer* Chevrolet Jack Daniel's 190.219 47.314 -0.606
24 #26 Jamie McMurray Ford Crown Royal 189.966 47.377 -0.669
25 #2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite 189.861 47.403 -0.695
26 #12 Ryan Newman Dodge ALLTEL 189.849 47.406 -0.698
27 #38 Elliott Sadler Ford M&M's 189.821 47.413 -0.705
28 #17 Matt Kenseth Ford DeWalt Power Tools 189.793 47.420 -0.712
29 #7 Robby Gordon Chevrolet Jim Beam 189.629 47.461 -0.753
30 #99 Carl Edwards Ford Office Depot 189.438 47.509 -0.801
31 #55 Michael Waltrip Dodge NAPA Auto Parts 189.278 47.549 -0.841
32 #40 David Stremme* Dodge Lone Star Steakhouse/Saloon 188.675 47.701 -0.993
33 #32 Travis Kvapil Chevrolet Tide 188.573 47.727 -1.019
34 #29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet GM Goodwrench 188.569 47.728 -1.020
35 #9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Dodge Dealers/UAW 188.466 47.754 -1.046
36 #22 Dave Blaney Dodge Caterpillar 188.352 47.783 -1.075
37 #96 Terry Labonte Chevrolet DLP HDTV/Tweeter 188.225 47.815 -1.107
38 #5 Kyle Busch Chevrolet Kellogg's 188.056 47.858 -1.150
39 #42 Casey Mears Dodge Texaco/Havoline 187.970 47.880 -1.172
40 #27 Kirk Shelmerdine Chevrolet Apex Electric 187.426 48.019 -1.311
41 #178 Kenny Wallace Chevrolet Furniture Row Racing 185.973 48.394 -1.686


:D

Posse

[roeG]

Go Jeff :D

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I would rather see him win then Jimmie or either Busch brother!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

I would rather see him win then Jimmie, Jr or either Busch brother!!

:D

Posse

I cant believe you said you would rather see Jeff win over Jr.

:D

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I cant believe you said you would rather see Jeff win over Jr.

:D

Wouldn't bother me if Jeff finished ahead of Stanton Barrett Jr, if Jr had qualified for this years 500!!! :p ;)

:D

Posse

[ramos]

That was some of the worst race coverage Ive ever seen. The picture was terrible,the announcers are always one step behind the action and gotta love all those commercials. They blamed the poor pictures on the weather. Well if memory serves me correct Fox and CBS broadcast football games in far worse weather than that. Harvick went a lap down and we didnt find out why until he got the lucky dog. Sorry for the rant,on to Cali.

[R. Giles]

i got to listen to the race on radio since i was at work. the radio is by far better then nbc because they tell you whats going on all the time, since you can't see whats going on. congrats to jimmy for the win but newman's comment at the end was damn funny saying johnson's car might still be illegal. stewart is an idiot for trying to kill kenseth when last week said they were going to kill somebody and he hoped he wasn't around.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

It's official!!!

I may actully dispise Jimmie more then either of the Busch brothers!!!

The guy is nothing but a classless pompous arse!!!

I never laughed so hard in my life when people started to leave and boo before he even made it to victory lane!!!!!

Ryan Newman nailed it right on the head!! Don't think the 48 team will ever be trusted again by NASCAR or other drivers!!

At least the Cheater Knaus doesn't get credit as being a Daytona 500 Winning Crew Chief!!

:D

Posse

Oh yeah, don't know what the heck got into Tony yesterday??????!

[Bronko]

Harvick went a lap down and we didnt find out why until he got the lucky dog.

That's why I always listen to Kev's in car radio. He had to change his carb, and then Nascar pulled a BS move by holding him a lap. And let's just say he had some colorful language to describe it ;).

[x90mattman]

I'll agree with everything but the weather statement. As far as the in-car goes, the higher the helicopter with the reciever is the better the picture. Also, the bigger the track, the higher the helicopter needs to be.

I think the camera's fogging up were out of they're control as well. Who knew the conditions were going to go that crappy, and if you've ever lived in a cold weather place with storm windows, every morning my windows fog up on the inside (like i suspect the camera's doing) until the temp levels off. It definattly sucks and I don't know why they didn't wipe the water droplets off the camera's (unless the droplets were on the inside like the foginess).

On a good note though, they're not back for 5 months!

Matt

That was some of the worst race coverage Ive ever seen. The picture was terrible,the announcers are always one step behind the action and gotta love all those commercials. They blamed the poor pictures on the weather. Well if memory serves me correct Fox and CBS broadcast football games in far worse weather than that. Harvick went a lap down and we didnt find out why until he got the lucky dog. Sorry for the rant,on to Cali.

[deogg]

One race in and the season already sucks.


But hey, when that green flag dropped, the winter was REALLY over :D

[avsfan21]

I dont see what Tony did wrong. He really didnt do what he go back on his statement. His statement was about bump drafting, He didnt do that much that I could see. Now blantanly wrecking some, he said nothing about, so it is fair game. :rolleyes:

I still cant believe that he was held for at least a lap for that crap. When they said that he would go to the end of the longest line, I was like what the hell. That is barely a penalty.

I did find what Jimmie said in Victory Lane funny. This win is for all the 48 haters. You know that is only going to make them mad.

[Bronko]

I did find what Jimmie said in Victory Lane funny. This win is for all the 48 haters. You know that is only going to make them mad.
He could have thanked his fans, but most of them were already in Victory Lane with Lowe's gear on :D.

[R. Giles]

He could have thanked his fans, but most of them were already in Victory Lane with Lowe's gear on :D.

No most of his fans stay in the closet.

[deogg]

No most of his fans stay in the closet.

Except for his flaming boyfriend/teammate.

[exanimate]

Gee, guess I am a phag since I like both Gordon and Johnson.

[mario_speedwagon]

Gee, guess I am a phag since I like both Gordon and Johnson.


You said it.......you go girl

[deogg]

Gee, guess I am a phag since I like both Gordon and Johnson.

At least you like the Blue Jackets.

[DMM77]

I drove over to the track on Saturday morning to check out the souvenier trailers. Here is what I came home with:

-Carl Edwards t-shirt
-Jeff Gordon hat
-#6 - Mark Martin AAA 1/64
-#99 - Carl Edwards Office Depot 1/64
-#26 - Jamie McMurray Sharpie 1/64
-#55 - Michael Waltrip Napa 1/64

and a #8 Bud window decal that I'm sending to Posse! (they were handing them out :D)

[Dirty Mo Posse]

and a #8 Bud window decal that I'm sending to Posse! (they were handing them out :D)


Thanks!!! :o

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

I dont care what anyone says. I like Jeff and Jimmie also. Although I was hoping Jimmie would have pushed Vickers to the win yesterday. I really want to see him win a race.

[avsfan21]

Another thing is what is up with all the Confetti in Victory Lane. They went a little overboard with it I would say. It was every where. You couldnt even see the car after it was all finished falling. It was like a red, white, and blue out since that was all you could see.

[Leafsfan1967]

I'm still trying to figure out what happened to my "C" driver Reed Sorenson who I'm pretty sure was marked 12th, or 13th on the last lap, and finished in the 20's! :eek: :confused: Did he crash? :confused:

[avsfan21]

I thought he wrecked pretty early in the race, maybe that was in the busch race that I am thinking of.

[Leafsfan1967]

I thought he wrecked pretty early in the race, maybe that was in the busch race that I am thinking of.

Nope! He was on the lead lap in 10-20th place all day long, and even was in the top 10 near the end! Not sure why he finished so low! He was in 13th at the green/white/checker laps! Maybe he pitted before they restarted?

[ramos]

I'll agree with everything but the weather statement. As far as the in-car goes, the higher the helicopter with the reciever is the better the picture. Also, the bigger the track, the higher the helicopter needs to be.

I think the camera's fogging up were out of they're control as well. Who knew the conditions were going to go that crappy, and if you've ever lived in a cold weather place with storm windows, every morning my windows fog up on the inside (like i suspect the camera's doing) until the temp levels off. It definattly sucks and I don't know why they didn't wipe the water droplets off the camera's (unless the droplets were on the inside like the foginess).

On a good note though, they're not back for 5 months!

Matt

The water droplets where the thing that bothered me the most. Unless it was fogging up in the inside there is no excuse for that. I cant wait until I dont have to see or listen to these guys again. I dont know whats worse their coverage or everything that comes out of BP's mouth.

[Elvira]

The moved RACEFEST from downtown Fontana out to the track. Anyone know who is going to be there signing? The website has no good info on it. :(

[Irish_Flyers]

I still don't get the hatred for Jimmie. They call him a whiner and that his team are cheaters, etc, but what everyone seems to miss sight of what we don't know behind the scenes is EVERY team tries to tweak the car here & there. They all do what they can to try and get an advantage. Nascar officials (who used to be old crew chiefs all admit that fact). Hell, half the rules that are in effect are because of the things these guys used to do to get an advantage with their cars.

As far as last year when Knaus had the car modified lower or whatever.....did he break any rule then, No. Did the car get flagged on inspection, Yes. They got docked points, as per the penalty set by Nascar, and Nascar closed the loop hole that Knaus used to their advantage. So they took their lumps. It's not like they're doing these things and not getting penalized. If it's that big a deal, then Nascar should park the car. But that's not what the penalty is.
Could be worse though.....at least Johnson isn't deliberately hitting other drivers at 190mph and forcing them into the infield, like SOME drivers. Yeah let's lambaste the guy who tweaks his car here & there and not do anything to the guy who could actually cause someone bodily harm.

Let's not forget other teams who get caught with "illegal cars or adjustments." Last year Harvick's chief was gone for 4 races, I think Bill Elliott's car even got caught for something illegal last week during the Shootout too, wasn't it.?.? But we won't remember those, will we.?. All that everyone ever talks about is when it happens to the 48 team.

Knaus is an innovative crew chief trying to do all he can to help his team. Pushing the envelope. Sometimes he goes a little too far, and Nascar snags him, but the team takes the punishment that Nascar gives them.

Just because Johnson isn't a redneck doesn't make him any less of a great driver either. You got guys like Jr. calling guys "idiots" (let's try to be a little more well-spoken, Dale) and Tony Stewart with the "He started it, I finished it" run a guy off the road at 190 mph mentality. Yeah, that makes sense.?.

Last year Johnson was called a whiner for saying that bump drafting was a major reason for the cause of the wrecks he caused at Talladega. So he's a whiner.?.? Fast forward to 2006 Daytona, and Tony Stewart gets applauded for saying bump drafting needs to stop, and people actually start saying that he may take over the torch from Dale Sr as spokesman for the drivers. :eek: :rolleyes:
Then who's the first person out there bumping cars or running them into the infield.?.? The "drivers new spokesman." :rolleyes: :p Nice Tony. Real nice driving.

All Johnson has done since he came on the scene is be a top driver. I don't think he's been outside of the Top 5 in the 5 years he's been in Nascar.

I'm not blasting anyone who's made negative Johnson comments on here. I really like & respect all of you on here. But even one of my close friends hates Johnson (loves Stewart) and we get in this discussions too. So I don't want anyone to think I want to get into a heated arguement. Just some lively debating..... :cool:

[Irish_Flyers]

At least we have something in common, Posse. We both hate the Busch brothers. :D

I hate Kurt, and dislike Kyle. Although not nearly as much as I loathe Kurt. Even though Kyle is a Hendrick guy I still don't like him that much.

[Irish_Flyers]

I did find what Jimmie said in Victory Lane funny. This win is for all the 48 haters. You know that is only going to make them mad.

Called my buddy yesterday (the one who likes Stewart) and asked him how he enjoyed the Daytona 500 victory being dedicated to him. :p

[Irish_Flyers]

This is for all Jimmie's buddies......Posse, deogg, R.Giles & Bronko.....
call him a cheater....hate the guy if you want. But one thing won't change......
http://i.tsn.com/i/photos/20060220/66708.jpg
2006 Daytona 500 Champion
:D :p :D :p

[deogg]

This is for all Jimmie's buddies......Posse, deogg, R.Giles & Bronko.....
call him a cheater....hate the guy if you want. But one thing won't change......
http://i.tsn.com/i/photos/20060220/66708.jpg
2006 Daytona 500 Champion
:D :p :D :p

Hendrick Motorsports: Cheat to win

I hear the new hood decal is going to be "Officially Sponsored by Nascar"

[Irish_Flyers]

Hendrick Motorsports: Cheat to win
Really.?. That's what you're going to use?
Isn't that argument getting a little old?? :p :D

Nascar inspected the car for 3 hours. Given the past infractions, and as recent as just last week....sure it's expected.
And you know what, I'm glad that, what normally takes them 1 hour (post race inspection), took them 3 hours, because now, the "cheaters" argument, doesn't hold up.

[deogg]

*I've wanted to do this for so long, I just never had the really golden chance, but with Jimmie cheating to win the 500 I thought it was the time*

Jeff and Jimmie's new firesuits:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/deogg/MPC20122.jpg

[avsfan21]

*I've wanted to do this for so long, I just never had the really golden chance, but with Jimmie cheating to win the 500 I thought it was the time*

Jeff and Jimmie's new firesuits:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/deogg/MPC20122.jpg

I dont know that looks a lot like Jamie McMurray and Carl Edwards if you ask me.

[deogg]

I dont know that looks a lot like Jamie McMurray and Carl Edwards if you ask me.

Thank God Mark Martin doesn't have Viagra as a sponsor anymore! lol

[Irish_Flyers]

Thank God Mark Martin doesn't have Viagra as a sponsor anymore! lol

Yeah, but the only thing that sucks is the races having to be stopped for over an hour, when he has to wait for 'AAA' to show up to tow him when he wrecks in a race. LOL

[Jigga4Dub]

Is anyone going to the Auto Club 500?

[R. Giles]

im not a johnson hater just a knaus hater.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

.....
http://i.tsn.com/i/photos/20060220/66708.jpg



Looks like the fans are trying to spit on him!! :p :p

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I still don't get the hatred for Jimmie.

Someone used this perspective for Jimmie, suits him perfectly!!

"He cannot see beyond his image of himself. He evaluates the entire racing world by his image of himself."


:D

Posse

[R. Giles]

Looks like the fans are trying to spit on him!! :p :p

:D

Posse

then he is probably thankful for the extra 30 in. that the soft wall gives him.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Except for his flaming boyfriend/teammate.

Actually due to Jimmie and his whole annoying team and attitude I actully have nothing bad to say about Jeff.

Jeff is a fantastic driver and knows when to keep his mouth shut!! Something he should try and teach Knaus and Jimmie!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

NASCAR really dropped the ball on this one!!!

http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/22206/

How in the hell can they justify a NO point loss for the #48 team????

They suspend Knaus for 3 races but don't take away any points??? Yet Jr says Shiat on TV and gets docked!!!

That is complete Horse crap!!!! I am really really getting tired of how NASCAR uses the so called "Rules" for certain teams and not others!!

:D

Posse

[R. Giles]

have to agree posse. nascar follows rules when it suits them.

[Bronko]

It's hard to believe Gordon has become almost likeable with all these newcomers. I think Johnson and both Busch brothers have more than passed Jeff on the global hate scale with Tony coming up fast.