The Official NASCAR Fan Thread- Texas Motor Speedway, TX (04/06/08) Race 7

[roeG]

sweet.....career win #76

Go Jeff Go!!

[avsfan21]

Career win #76. Tying Dale.

[R. Giles]

sweet.....career win #75

Go Jeff Go!!

Its win #76 so now Jeff can knock another track off his hasn't won list.

[avsfan21]

Should have knocked off 2, but no Texas bit him again when he probably had the best car.

[Bronko]

That image really summed up Jeff Gordon's whole career. Equaling an Earnhardt record and then driving around with an Earnhardt flag while being pelted with garbage from the fans.

[deogg]

The Queen of Nascar gets another win handed to him.

[avsfan21]

The Queen of Nascar gets another win handed to him.

Ah boohoo, want some cheese with your whine?

[Jason62]

God this win reminds me how much I hated Gordon back when he used to win alot. And my man Martin should have never taken a break this year, he was on a hot streak.

[jig_man2]

I have a question. How can Busch, Dale Jr, Newman, and Gordon all be on pit road at the same time and when they restart Kurt, Dale Jr, and Newman are at the end of the lead lap and Gordon get the lead. How does that work. It would seem to me that they would all 4 be at the back of the lead lap and Tony still would have had the lead.

[madden821]

I have a question. How can Busch, Dale Jr, Newman, and Gordon all be on pit road at the same time and when they restart Kurt, Dale Jr, and Newman are at the end of the lead lap and Gordon get the lead. How does that work. It would seem to me that they would all 4 be at the back of the lead lap and Tony still would have had the lead.


Because they are obviously cheating to let Jeff win. :rolleyes:

[Gooker1]

Gordong was on pit road, but the other guys had already completed their stops and were on the track. That's why those guys got dinged. It's a weird technicality w/ the scoring loop b/c I thought he was screwed too, but some times you need luck to win a race.

And for those who really think the 24 drove around w/ Dale's flag as an insult need to realize that it was as a sign of respect.

Congrats to the 24 and tying one of the greatest.

[avsfan21]

I was surprised that I didnt hear more boos when he had that flag. I was expecting it. I guess if he was in the south he would have gotten more.

[ajaxdog]

Sweet win for the man and he helps me shoot from 14 to 1 in Yahoooooooooooooooooo

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I thought it was classy move by Jeff to honor Dale Sr.

Well done a Congrats to Jeff!!! That is something Jimmie would never do!!!

Still don't understand how Jeffy got the lead during the caution, all I know is it caught JR with more BAD LUCK!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

It wasnt that hard to understand really. He was on pit road when the caution came out. While Dale Jr, Newman, Kurt all pitted before the caution came out. When the caution came out the field was frozen and all Jeff had to do to stay on the lead lap was beat the leader to the end line of pit road. Since Jr, Newman and Kurt all pit before the yellow came out they were trapped a lap down. They were already a lap down when the yellow came out.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

It wasnt that hard to understand really. He was on pit road when the caution came out. While Dale Jr, Newman, Kurt all pitted before the caution came out. When the caution came out the field was frozen and all Jeff had to do to stay on the lead lap was beat the leader to the end line of pit road. Since Jr, Newman and Kurt all pit before the yellow came out they were trapped a lap down. They were already a lap down when the yellow came out.

Except Gordon wasn't the leader when he pitted, which means the leader (Stewart I think) DID pass the start finish line first. Since the caution came out Jeff should have been scored a lap down or since the pits are closed the second the caution happens he should have at least been penalized for pitting while pits were closed.

At least that's what the boys on Speed said last night. Either way Jeff won and I thought him grabbing the Dale Sr flag was a classy thing to do!!

:D

Posse

[x90mattman]

The entrance to pit road closes durring a caution, since Gordon was already past the commitment cone when the caution came out, he doesn't get penalized because he was already there. When he came out, he beat the pace car which put him as the last person on the lead lap. All of the cars in front of him hadn't pit yet (except for those now 1 lap down) so when they all went in to pit, he just drove up to the pace car and passed them all while they were pitting. When they all came back out, they came out behind Gordon, and *poof* Gordon is in the lead.

Except Gordon wasn't the leader when he pitted, which means the leader (Stewart I think) DID pass the start finish line first. Since the caution came out Jeff should have been scored a lap down or since the pits are closed the second the caution happens he should have at least been penalized for pitting while pits were closed.

At least that's what the boys on Speed said last night. Either way Jeff won and I thought him grabbing the Dale Sr flag was a classy thing to do!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Exactly the only way for Gordon to be a lap down was if he didnt beat the pace car crossing the exit of pit road. Since the caution came out while he was already on pit road the pace car had to do a whole lap before Gordon could be a lap down. Plenty of time to finish a pit stop.

[madden821]

The entrance to pit road closes durring a caution, since Gordon was already past the commitment cone when the caution came out, he doesn't get penalized because he was already there. When he came out, he beat the pace car which put him as the last person on the lead lap. All of the cars in front of him hadn't pit yet (except for those now 1 lap down) so when they all went in to pit, he just drove up to the pace car and passed them all while they were pitting. When they all came back out, they came out behind Gordon, and *poof* Gordon is in the lead.


Enough with all the logic. We all know its a conspiracy to let Jeff win. :D

[sremmaz]

Some pics of my new NASCAR displays

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6917331#post6917331

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Looks good Paul!!

:D

Posse

[sremmaz]

I finally got around to uploading some of my Bristol Pics - these are just some of the the hunders I took - basically just my favorites

http://www.backprint.com/view_event_photos.asp?PID=bp%1BxBp&EVENTID=21882&PWD=

I am just using a new site I setup for event photography. Now that I am back in So Cal I am going to start doing youth sports photography on the weekends to make some extra $$..

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Wow Paul!!!

You got some AWESOME shots!!

They almost look professional enough to make people think you know what your doing!!

LOL

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Oh yeah!!

Paul send me your NEW ADDY you turnip!!!

:D

Posse

[sremmaz]

Wow Paul!!!

You got some AWESOME shots!!

They almost look professional enough to make people think you know what your doing!!

LOL

:D

Posse
:D Almost... well at least I have the equipment to make me look like I know what I am doing ;)

[Dirty Mo Posse]

SEND ME YOUR FREAKING ADDRESS YOU TURNIP!!!!

:D

Posse

[midway monster]

The Best chance for all us Dale Jr. fans to celebrate a victory this season is this weekend @ Taledega.Hopefully this lights a fire.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

They had better get the proper gear figured out!! He was 44th in Happy Hour and said the car was junk with that gear selection!! :(

:D

Posse

[midway monster]

But was he Talking about the 8 car or his other ride the 5?

[Dirty Mo Posse]

The 8 Car!!

He said Kyle will have the 5 Car junk in a few laps!!! :p

:D

Posse

[midway monster]

I did not catch the whole "Rosie of Nascar" comment that Gordon made,Did Stewart take offense to it?

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I did not catch the whole "Rosie of Nascar" comment that Gordon made,Did Stewart take offense to it?

No idea!!!

First I heard about it!!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Waltrip has ideas for fairer qualifying


April 27, 2007

TALLADEGA, Ala. (AP) -- Michael Waltrip has failed to qualify for seven of the eight NASCAR Nextel Cup races this season, and he believes the system now being used to select the fields is somewhat flawed.

The two-time Daytona 500 winner, now also owner of a three-car, first-year team, says he has a better idea.

``They ought to draw for qualifying, like they do now,'' Waltrip said. ``Then, the top 35 go out one through 35. Then you've got this drama built. Then you let the scrubs go out. Let's see who has got what. Seven of these guys are going to make it. It would be more fair if we were right there together.''

As it stands now, the top 35 drivers in the car owner points are guaranteed a starting spot in the 43-car field, actually leaving eight spots to fill. Those positions are filled by qualifying speed, with one spot reserved for any former series champion who fails to make it on the other criteria.

Dale Jarrett, Waltrip's teammate and the 1999 champion, has used five of his six allotted provisionals already this year.

Under the current rules, everyone entered gets his qualifying position in the blind draw.

Last week at Phoenix, qualifying began in the late afternoon and the track temperature changed by more than 20 degrees as the session progressed. That gave the drivers who drew later qualifying spots a decided advantage over the early qualifiers.

Kyle Petty, another longtime stock car racer, agreed with Waltrip that a change in qualifying procedure could be good.

``On at least two occasions, he's been beat by the luck of the draw,'' Petty said. ``He's been fast enough. Other guys have been beat by the luck of the draw, too, and other guys have got in by the luck of the draw.''

Waltrip also had a suggestion for NASCAR about a change when qualifying is rained out, as it was two weeks ago at Texas. In that case, the formula for determining the field includes the top 35 in points, then former series champions, the previous year's race winners, qualifying attempts during the current season and, finally, back to the current points.

Waltrip's No. 55 Toyota went home that weekend without racing.

``Texas was a crisis,'' he said. ``Our sponsors pay as much for us to compete as sponsors pay for cars in the top 35. It was more upsetting to Domino's and NAPA that qualifying got canceled on Friday and that's it, go home. They said, `Why couldn't we have qualified on Saturday?'

``They should come up with qualifying for the whole field,'' Waltrip said. ``Say it rains on Friday. Set the top 35 by points and we're going to have a session for the other guys on Saturday. We're going to try to get qualifying in for these guys so they can go home knowing they had a chance.''

On that suggestion, Petty did not agree.

``If qualifying gets rained out, it just gets rained out, sorry,'' Petty said. ``You got beat by God then, not the luck of the draw. That's the way it's been. We play an outdoor sport and you've got to live with it. The race tracks and NASCAR and everybody, we have a schedule. You can't manipulate stuff like that.''

Mikey Mikey Mikey!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Here's a better idea, why doesn't your team:

Make a Better Car!!!

:D

Posse

[Jason62]

Im just suprised that Waltrip is just the worst Toyota out there. Toyota should be all working together to get all their cars good.

[midway monster]

Waltrip is having a bad year,He's usually a nice guy but he's just gotta get a better car.Great idea TOYOTA

[Bronko]

I actually like some of Waltrip's ideas. It's hard for a guy outside the top 35 to ever get back in without making races, and Nascar makes it hard for them to even get in.

[Bronko]

And what do you know, Waltrip will make the field at Dega.

[Bronko]

Well I take that back, Reutimann once again knocks his owner out of the race.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

OUCH!!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I see it was a strong showing for my DEI Boys!!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

I dont know maybe it is just be but I think it is BS that the 20th fastest car misses the race.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Lucky Jarret has the "Past Champion" to follow back on!!!

Although I think that is a crock!!! It should be the FASTEST 43 cars make the race!!

No EXCEPTIONS!!!! You crash too bad!!!

:D

Posse

I dont know maybe it is just be but I think it is BS that the 20th fastest car misses the race.

I agree!!!!

:D

Posse

[Bronko]

At least after this week Jarrett can't fall back on the champ previsional. He'll be missing a lot of races from here on out.

[cflames89]

Interesting to see the RCR cars in 40th, 41st, and 42nd.

[avsfan21]

Wow crazy crash for Kyle Busch.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Wow crazy crash for Kyle Busch.

Now there's a surprise!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Looked a lot like the Vickers/Johnson/Jr wreck from last year.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Looked a lot like the Vickers/Johnson/Jr wreck from last year.

I'll take your word for it, as I am at work and can't watch it!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Just watched the video on NASCAR's website and looks like Stewart got into the back of Kyle and AROUND she went!!! :eek: :eek:

Good to see he is OK and that he walked away!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

On a side note I did mention earlier that the #5 car was junk!!! :p :p :p ;)

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

It's DEGA Baby!!!!

Let's hope we can stay away from the "Alabamba Slammas"!!!

Lets Go Dale Jr!!!

#8

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Should be good for a nice nap.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I love the Plate Races!!!

Anyone can win!!!

I know lot's of time Good Cars are takin out in stupid incidents but I still like it!!

:D

Posse

[R. Giles]

i only watch for the accidents but im watching other stuff. the race will be on my tv but won't be paying that much attention.

[avsfan21]

Well I will miss the start since the ALMS race is on. Then the IRL race starts at 4:30.

[R. Giles]

I will watch the start since I didn't know the ALMS race was on

[Purdue_Pete]

AWESOME race so far!!! 1st Caution. Debris gets Stewart on the lead lap. Now THAT is funny. :D

[Bronko]

That wreck is just too ironic. JJ spinning out the 25 car while it is in second and not vice versa :p

[Leafsfan1967]

Guess who had the 25 car????? :mad: At the time my cars were 1st, 2nd, 5th, and not sure where the 66 was at that point, but he's been in the top 10 all day! I was finally looking at a big points day! Thanks Jimmy! :rolleyes: :mad:
That wreck is just too ironic. JJ spinning out the 25 car while it is in second and not vice versa :p

[avsfan21]

Well so far I have lost the 5 car.

[Chachi]

How convinent Nascar waitied til g h e y gordon had the lead to throw the caution. Tony Stewart is right!

[avsfan21]

2 in a row baby. :)

[Bronko]

Kulwicki driving backwards was the "polish victory lap;" I guess we could call Gordon's lap being pelted with trash the "beer run."

[txrebel1013]

well it seems tony stewart was right once again......

amazing how the caution for david r. came out EXACTLY when gordon passed mcmurray!

[avsfan21]

Not like it would have mattered much. Gordon would have probably passed him after the restart any since his car sputtered on the restart.

[avsfan21]

Oh and that whole Overdrive crap has to be one of the ga yest things I have ever heard.

[madden821]

Gordon winning, cry baby Stewart in the wall... doesn't get any better than that.

[RoninJai]

well it seems tony stewart was right once again......

amazing how the caution for david r. came out EXACTLY when gordon passed mcmurray!

Not like it would have mattered much. Gordon would have probably passed him after the restart any since his car sputtered on the restart.


I thought exactly the same thing. And even though avsfan is right, and Gordon would have PROBABLY passed him anyway...it's the fact that this kind of stuff keeps happening over and over, always in the favor of a Hendrick car, that gives weight to the conspiracy theorists.

[madden821]

So all the sudden this year they decided to give Gordon all the breaks.. where the hell were they the last 10 years when Gordon couldn't do anthing right. :rolleyes:

Edit... ok last 5 years... forgot he won in 01

[avsfan21]

Last 5 years might be a little more accurate.

[sremmaz]

I used to enjoy this thread - back when people actually just respected everyones favorites and didn't always call for conspiracy.

It's no wonder I hardly come in here anymore

[DonJuanHomer]

I always felt a good fix to the whole yellow flag towards the end of the race, is to just not simply count the caution laps. Depending on the track; when they are a certain # of laps left and a yellow flag comes out they should not count them...

[Bronko]

I think what a lot of people hate about it is they go to the trouble of setting up this GWC and saying we're going to see a great finish, but as soon as they go green cars back in the 30's crash and within seconds the race is over without the leader getting to turn one.

[avsfan21]

I used to enjoy this thread - back when people actually just respected everyones favorites and didn't always call for conspiracy.

It's no wonder I hardly come in here anymore

I agree Posse.

I always felt a good fix to the whole yellow flag towards the end of the race, is to just not simply count the caution laps. Depending on the track; when they are a certain # of laps left and a yellow flag comes out they should not count them...

I am not sure how that would really help anything.

[Oiler_Fan]

Congrats to Jeff Gordon on the win.

I love the Superspeedway races!

[ajaxdog]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ....
sore losers are why I love sports

[ajaxdog]

The bad thing is the fans that have no brains ( not all, just the haters ) think it's a bigger story for Nascar if Gordon wins on Seniors B-Day rather then his own son. If it was rigged Martin would have won Daytona and Jr. would have won today ... I know the people that have tiny tiny brains dont get it but oh well.

[DonJuanHomer]

I am not sure how that would really help anything.

Not saying it would fix anything per se, but there would be more green laps towards the finish of the race....

[Leafsfan1967]

321 points for me with one of my drivers finishing 39th! Not bad afterall. Oh, what could of been if the 48 didn't take out the 25. :mad:

[txrebel1013]

maybe there is no conspiracy but you have to admit it does seem pretty odd that as soon as gordon passed jamie the caution came out yet when stewart got hit on the last lap with 5 or 6 cars wrecking behind him the caution didnt come out til after the field drove by him which made him finish 2 laps down in the 20's. i hope he says something again this week and then punches gilleland in the face. i've given up hope for the pre chase anyway. gordon and johnson can have 1st and 2nd til then. they cant be good all 36 races.

[Gooker1]

Wow - great race yesterday. Too bad the race didn't get to end under green. I'm super excited for the 24 team winning two in a row. Conspiracy theorists unite - again, common sense would be to throw a caution if the 8 car is out front and not the 24 since, the majority of fans or of Jr and it would be storybook for him to win on what would have been his dad's bday.

It sucks that Tony got wrecked. I'm not a fan of him, but I don't want to see a guy get wrecked like that at the end. I couldn't stop laughing at what he said about Gilliland lucking into his ride.

[Gooker1]

I did not catch the whole "Rosie of Nascar" comment that Gordon made,Did Stewart take offense to it?

I think Gordon said this on Friday or Saturday's edition of Nascar Now on ESPN2. The reporters questioned Gordon on what he thought about Stewart's comments. He said he liked his emotion, and jokingly said it looks like he's Nascar's version of Rosie O'Donnell. Rosie has been saying some really controversial things over the past few weeks, so it was just a comparison to what Tony has been saying. The reporters and Gordon all got a good chuckle out of it. He wasn't being a jerk or anything like that.

But I haven't heard Tony comment about it, so maybe if/when he does we'll get to hear what he thinks about it. I wouldn't be surprised to hear some good quotes come from his Sirius show on Tuesday

[madden821]

It sucks that Tony got wrecked. I'm not a fan of him, but I don't want to see a guy get wrecked like that at the end. I couldn't stop laughing at what he said about Gilliland lucking into his ride.


Well we know who will wreck Gilliland out of the race next week.

[avsfan21]

I still say they should change the name on Tony's car from Smoke to Rosie. It would just fit. All the drama and controversy he causes.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

DEI & Yates discussing a merger!!

Here's the link, sorry but I am topo lazy to post the story!

http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/headlines/cup/04/29/dearnhardtjr.mtruexjr.pmenard.dei.yates.dgilliland.rrudd/index.html


:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Didnt Yates already somewhat merger with Roush? I know they all use the same engines.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Who Knows!!

The real question should be is if they do merger does Yates go to Chevrolet or does DEI go to Ford??

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

For sure DEI to Ford :)

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Yeah NOT SO MUCH!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Yeah you are right. It would be more accurate to say. Yates and DEI to Toyota. :D

[R. Giles]

They say they would go to Chevy and Toyota is denying talking to DEI about switching. So we know Toyota talked to DEI about switching.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I highly doubt DEI would ever even think about changing to Toyota!!! That might just cause Earnhardt Nation to RIOT!!!

Earnhardt is Chevy!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

That is the whole point. It would be classic. And you think that throwing trash on the track after a Gordon win was bad.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

That is the whole point. It would be classic. And you think that throwing trash on the track after a Gordon win was bad.

Yeah I think Death Threats might be involved if that happened!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

:D

Posse

[R. Giles]

Yeah I think Death Threats might be involved if that happened!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

:D

Posse

If the money is right why not switch

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Heard that Dale Jr will NOT drive anything besides a Chevy. Only way DEI switches to Ford or Toyota is if talks with Jr's contract stall and he signs with either RCR or Hendrick.

As long as Jr is in the DEI stable it will be nothing but Chevy.

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Jr to the 25 car here we come. Bud back to the 25 car where it belongs.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Gonna miss the race due to the Boardie Dinner!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Those Bastards. :p

[Dirty Mo Posse]

;)

Posse

[Gooker1]

WOOHOO! The 24 locks in another pole! Three in a row - hope he can make 3 wins in a row too!!

[R. Giles]

Waltrip misses the race along with Dale Jarrett.

[R. Giles]

Race postponed until tomorrow at 1.

[avsfan21]

I blame this on Posse since he was crying he wouldnt get to see the race. :p

[Gooker1]

Wow - no responses? Pretty good race yesterday. Harvick probably would have won the race was it not for the pit road accident. Great finish for Kyle Busch after starting near the back when the day started.

[avsfan21]

Did they start the race from scratch yesterday? I though they ran like 12 laps on Saturday. Did they just decided to do away with them. Not like it mattered since it was all under caution, but they still did run those laps.

On a similar note they really need to quit doing the green yellow start crap. Either start the race or keep doing pace laps. Dont throw the green flag just so you can get your start time even though you arent going to start the race.

[R. Giles]

They started the race from lap 0 and i agree about the green yellow thing its pointless.

No responses because the board was at a crawl yesterday.

[Gooker1]

Ah - didn't know about the board.

They ran a full race yesterday b/c the laps that were ran on Saturday were all under yellow. Since they didn't have a full speed lap, then it was wiped clean and started anew yesterday.

[avsfan21]

But they still ran laps that should have counted since they did throw the green flag. As I said that could have been avoid if they quit doing that yellow green start crap.

[Gooker1]

But they still ran laps that should have counted since they did throw the green flag. As I said that could have been avoid if they quit doing that yellow green start crap.

Will since it was started as a yellow green, they never had just green laps.

[avsfan21]

But technically the race started so those laps should have counted.

[Gooker1]

I agree w/ you, but the since the rules are that it started under yellow - then the laps don't count. stupid yes

[Sinsightful]

the green yellow starts most times are to help dry the track more evenly and faster.

[avsfan21]

Why cant they just do that without throwing the green flag?

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Wow!!! That wasn't one of the options I was thinking!!!

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389566

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Pure speculation at this point, but I would love to see Jr. and Truex drive under the JR Motorports banner in '08.

Little more then speculation. ;) ;)

:D

Posse

[roeG]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=jb-juniorleaves050907&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

"Sirius Radio also reported late Wednesday afternoon that the Earnhardt/Truex split with DEI was a done deal and that the new Cup team entry will field Chevrolet chassis built by Hendrick Motorsports and will use Hendrick engines as well."

hehehe....going with a winning team.

Roe :D

[Gooker1]

I saw this on Nascar now. It's cool to split apart from DEI to give his step mom the F U too.

I hope he's competitive when he splits off, but he'll probably regress a little bit. It's a shame that DEI is gonna go down hill after his Senior started it, but i guess it's business.

[deogg]

RIP DEI

Way to go The******. There goes the meal ticket waling out the door.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I guess we shall see in a couple hours!!!

What Number will he go with?? 3, 8, ?????

:D

Posse

[R. Giles]

Well if he went with RCR engines he could probably get the 3 but he's most likely using Hendrick engines so I say the 25 bud car returns.

[Gooker1]

Well if he went with RCR engines he could probably get the 3 but he's most likely using Hendrick engines so I say the 25 bud car returns.

I doubt he'll get Casey's spot. He won't be on the HMS team, but more of a satellite team like Jeff Green and others who just use their engines.

[deogg]

According to the press conference, there is no decision yet as to whether or not he's gonna go owner-driver, or go to another owner.

[Gooker1]

So where does he go? Own team or RCR or JGR? As a fan of the 24 car, I'd want him to go to RCR b/c I think they're a slight step down from Joe Gibbs Racing.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

I would Love to see Smoke & Jr "REAL" teammates for a change!!

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Pretty Sure Mikey Boy missed this weeks race too!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Yes Mikey missed the race again. At least he has the All-Star race to look forward to. He should at least be in the Open.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Ginn also in running for Dale Jr Sweepstakes!!

:D

Posse

[cflames89]

Ginn also in running for Dale Jr Sweepstakes!!

:D

Posse

I really don't think that Ginn can compete with Hendrick, Childress or Gibbs.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

He's got the money and Ginn racing uses Hendrick engines.

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Or it could be a situation of Hendrick dealing with him but sending him to Ginn since they dont have an open seat at the moment. It would be like a 5th car for Hendrick under the Ginn name.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

If Hendrick signs JR they will just give Jimmie the boot!!

Jr will make 40 TIMES the money for HMS then Jimmie ever would!!! :p

:D

Posse

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Could you imagine the media frenzy over that one!! LOL

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

Yeah I dont see that one happening Posse. If anyone was going to get the boot it would be Casey.

[Sinsightful]

Ginn and Gibbs would be the frontrunners in my opinion....Chevy teams that compete.

RCR, there is way too much drama to go there.

Hendrick, they are full and have all drivers and sponsers in contracts for a few years. Mears won't leave because he is new and that is the baby in the hearts of Hendrick (the #25 team)

Ginn has deep pockets (real estate mogul) with Hendrick motors.

Joe Gibbs is against having alcohol sponsers, so that would pose somewhat of a problem with Budweiser.

[lloydchristmas81]

Joe Gibbs is against having alcohol sponsers, so that would pose somewhat of a problem with Budweiser.

Just wondering......would Gibbs make a exception if he was able to land a name like Junior?

Are they going to race tonight or not? And if not...will they have the race tomorrow..on Mothers Day? Seems like they always make a big deal about not racing on Mom's Day.

[Gooker1]

Damn rain

[x90mattman]

Yup, rain postponed till 1pm Eastern on Sunday.

Good article up at nascar.com regarding Gibbs and Ginn going after Earnhardt. Bullet points are that Gibbs would have a huge issues with the Bud sponsership, and even if Bud wasn't on the car, Jr has a personal services contract with But through 2008 that would be a problem. And Ginn is definatly taking a swing.


Matt

Damn rain

[avsfan21]

Second week in a row that the race gets rained out on Saturday night.

[avsfan21]

Yeah Buddy, Number 78 for the 24. That water propulsion at the end was what did it. :)

[roeG]

Sweet...........GO JEFF!

He steamed his way to first.....and to the win! ;)

:D

[Oiler_Fan]

Way to go Jeff!

He's on a roll boys.

[Gooker1]

Congrats to the 24!!

[R. Giles]

That was a great win for the 24 since I swear his engine should of blown.

[avsfan21]

Bobby Labonte did the same thing in the Dega busch race. He was belting out steam on the way to victory as well. You could see his car in the pack because of the water coming out of it.

[madden821]

That was cool watching old faithful win.

[Bronko]

For those saying that at least Waltrip got to look forward to the All Star weekend....ouch :D. Wreck in qualifying and starts the open dead last :p

[R. Giles]

Waltrip has no luck what so ever

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Well he does, it's just all BAD!!

:D

Posse

[avsfan21]

But at least he made the open race.

[avsfan21]

Cant say that I am a huge fan of the Yellow walls at Charlotte.

[R. Giles]

I wonder if the walls will be back to white next weekend and just yellow for this weekend.

[avsfan21]

I hope so, they dont look good at all.

[avsfan21]

I want to go to qualifying on Thursday, but not sure if it is going to happen. I dont really care about qualifying that much but the Speed series is running at the track and I would like to see that.

[R. Giles]

Seeing a race would be cool

[Bronko]

Well Juan Middle Name Montoya that's quite a way to make an impression in your All*Star debut.

[R. Giles]

I like Juan but jesus man its 40 laps not 1. This also isn't F1 were you have to get all the spots on the first turn.

[lloydchristmas81]

3 cautions in how many laps so far? Kinda boring.....

[R. Giles]

wonder if the open will ever finish.

[Bronko]

Shaping up to a good finish in the Open.

[R. Giles]

HA HA Carl Edwards goes from 1st to 3rd in half a turn.

[R. Giles]

what in the world kenny wallace makes the all star race with the fan vote.

[avsfan21]

Its the second time he has been.

[avsfan21]

It has been a pretty boring All-Star Race so far. I am not a huge of this four 20 lap segments crap. I liked the 3 segments with the invert better. Added to the race a bit with all the faster cars trying to get back up front.

[R. Giles]

Yes Kyle takes out Kurt

[avsfan21]

I think that Kurt could have given Kyle a bit more room there. He pretty much drove right into Kyle entering the turn.

[Bronko]

It started off boring, but I loved the ending :p. Harvick takes the lead, the Busch bros takes each other out, Gordon wrecks, and Harvick beats JJ to the line for a million dollars :D.

[avsfan21]

I most have missed that Gordon wrecking part. Oh thats why because it didnt happen.

[Bronko]

Well he might not have wrecked, but it was just another way to say he lost his tire and went out of contention.

[Bronko]

Have to say that I love that color scheme. It harkens back to the Goodwrench colors, but still with the Shell/Pennzoil decals.

[avsfan21]

I will probably go around and visit some of the race shops tomorrow. I have been to the Hendrick shop a few times. I will probably go back tomorrow. Not sure which ones I will go to yet. For sure probably Gibbs and Roush.

[Bronko]

Boy Michael Waltrip sure has this qualifying thing down pat ;).

[R. Giles]

im guessing waltrip crashed again

[avsfan21]

He hit the wall a ton.

[R. Giles]

well seems like Jarrett is the only MWR driver in the race with the other 2 wrecking

[avsfan21]

Hell Yeah buddy, Inside of row 17 to Victory Lane.

[R. Giles]

How does Paul Menard start 43rd and miss the race

[Gooker1]

What happened w/ Gordon's qualifying run? Did he run this bad during practice?

It's the exact same car used in the all star event so I'm surprised it ran so poorly

[avsfan21]

He just doesnt have a good car on the short run he said. I just got back from a quite a few shops. I will get pics up as soon as they upload.

[avsfan21]

Pictures should all be in here. I will try to take some at the actual race but cant make in promises. I dont have a great camera and hate going up and down the steps just to take pictures.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/559184203tGKJuv

About the shops I still have to say that I think Hendrick still has the best one. There is just so many cars to look at in the Museum, plus you can pretty much go in all the shops, even if they kind of limit what you can see in the 24 and 48 shop. Roush is pretty good as well. Although it was a zoo there since I believe Carl Edwards was having a signing later in the day so I didnt stay long. I went to the Ganassi shop but didnt even park since it was fan day and most of the drivers were going to be at a signing as well. There was a line of probably 200+ people. There were cars everywhere so I didnt even bother. I wasnt planing to go to DEI but I saw it on my way to the Penske shop so I stopped in. The building looks nice, but I wasnt impressed with the shop. They dont let you into the actual shops of the cars and the museum looked like it had some cool cars in there but it is hard to tell since they are all in this room and you are looking through a glass door, so it is hard to get pictures of them. They should let you walk around them like at Hendrick I think. The only one I didnt take pictures of was Red Bull since there wasnt much there just a window looking into the shop, but there were cars back to the windows so it was pretty hard to see stuff.

[Bronko]

70 laps into a 400 lap marathon and around 20 cars have already been caught up in wrecks.

[R. Giles]

pretty crazy first 70 laps and Gordon hit a ton into the wall along with the car hitting him in the side.

[DMM77]

It's setting up to be an exciting finish!

Who can last on fuel?!?

[R. Giles]

Hendrick wins another one

[DMM77]

Hendrick wins another one

Yep, but it's nice to see a new driver win!

[DMM77]

Did they just say that was Kyle Petty's first Top 5 in 10 years!:eek:

[R. Giles]

I have it on but not listening to it but wouldn't surprise me.

Feel bad for Vickers had a great car and power steering lets him down.

[Bronko]

Nice to see some fresh faces up front for a change. Happy for Mears, but it would have been something to see Yeley or Petty take it.

[ramos]

It will probably be a long time before we see a top 3 like that one tonight.

[avsfan21]

That is the second time I have been at the race to see a driver of the 25 car get their first win. I saw Jerry Nadeau win his first race in Atlanta back in like 2000. Although I have to say that I think the best car at the time was taken out at lap 60. I mean Gordon had passed about 20 cars in 20 laps and gotten to 5th before being wrecked. I was rooting for Vickers there as well. I thought it would have been cool to see the first Toyota win, but it didnt happen. I am happy that Casey won his first race though.

[Oiler_Fan]

I was so happy for Kyle Petty. It's been awhile.

He's usually in the middle to back of the pack and gets caught up in all the wrecks.

He had a strong car on Sunday. I was pulling for him all the way.

I hope it's a sign of things to come.

[avsfan21]

Not too sure his car was that strong, it was just luck that half the field wrecked early, he got the lucky dog near the end and didnt bit while the better cars all pitted.

[Gooker1]

Man, races don't hold their luster when your driver gets wrecked before the 100 lap mark. But it was still a pretty entertaining race w/ everything coming down to fuel.

It was cool to see Toyota and Vickers running up front like that. He was the class of the field before his power steering crapped out. Congrats to all those guys in the top five that have people scratching their heads. I'm glad that Mears won and that Petty was 3rd. Great stuff for that team.

Was it me or did the crowd go incredibly insane when Gordon wrecked - jerks :) I would say he had the best car in the first 60 laps. You don't go from 30th to the top 10 on nothing. I would have loved to see him out front.

Bring on the monster mile!

[cflames89]

Was it me or did the crowd go incredibly insane when Gordon wrecked - jerks :)

I would have to say there was a definate "pop" when Gordon hit the wall.

[avsfan21]

There was a lady somewhere behind me that said "Yay Gordon's dead." When he didnt get out of the car right away.

[Gooker1]

There was a lady somewhere behind me that said "Yay Gordon's dead." When he didnt get out of the car right away.


Ugh - people

[avsfan21]

I already knew the was alright since I was listening to his radio, but I couldnt believe someone would say that.

[avsfan21]

Oh one other thing about the race that I thought was pretty funny. Some of the Jr fans just had me laughing. The would cheer after every car he passed. He was freaking passing lap cars and they cheer. I am like what the hell he passed a ****ing lap car. They would also get all pissed off if he lost a few spots. Like right at the start he got a little lose in 3 and 4 and lost like two spots, then you hear stuff like, what the **** you are suppose to pass jr and stuff like that.

[Bronko]

Yeah, unfortunately most of Jr nation is like that. It's especially bothersome at Bristol when he's passing a car per lap and they're acting like maniacs.

[Bronko]

So Casey Mears won his first race and I got interested...and a little bored...and put together this list of current drivers to never have won a Cup race and their best finish.

Kenny Wallace 0 for 335: Three 2nd place finishes ('99 Loudon, '00 Dega, '01 Rock).
Dave Blaney 0 for 246; 3rd at Darlington in '03.
Jeff Green 0 for 245: 2nd at Loudon in '02.
Kevin Lepage 0 for 200: Two 5th place finishes ('99 Darlington, '00 Texas).
Scott Riggs 0 for 117: 2nd at Michigan in '05.
Tony Raines 0 for 95: 6th at Rockingham in '03.
Mike Bliss 0 for 81: 4th at Richmond in '04.
Martin Truex Jr. 0 for 57: 2nd at Homestead in '06.
J.J. Yeley 0 for 54: 2nd at Charlotte in '07.
Reed Sorenson 0 for 50: 4th at Charlotte in '07.
David Stremme 0 for 50: 8th at Talladega in '07.
Clint Bowyer 0 for 49: 3rd at California in '06.
Johnny Sauter 0 for 43: Two 9th place finishes ('05 & '07 Phoenx)
David Gilliland 0 for 27: 4th at Talladega in '07.
Paul Menard 0 for 17: 7th at Atlanta in '06.
David Ragan 0 for 14: 5th at Daytona in '07.
Juan Montoya 0 for 13: 5th at Atlanta in '07.
David Reutimann 0 for 9: 22nd at Charlotte in '05.
A.J. Allmendinger 0 for 5: 31st at Charlotte in '07.

Anyone see another first time winner this season? I think Bowyer can break through, and maybe Riggs or Truex could get lucky.

[avsfan21]

Oh Poor AJ best career finish a 31st.

[Gooker1]

Oh one other thing about the race that I thought was pretty funny. Some of the Jr fans just had me laughing. The would cheer after every car he passed. He was freaking passing lap cars and they cheer. I am like what the hell he passed a ****ing lap car. They would also get all pissed off if he lost a few spots. Like right at the start he got a little lose in 3 and 4 and lost like two spots, then you hear stuff like, what the **** you are suppose to pass jr and stuff like that.

Oh wow - that's HI-larious! "WOOO!!! He just past Robby Gordon who's 4 laps down!!"

[avsfan21]

If the race is anything like qualifying so far, it should be really interesting. Pretty much everyone is sliding their cars off of turn 4.

[avsfan21]

HOLY ****!!!!! Michael Waltrip actually made a race. :eek:

[Gooker1]

HOLY ****!!!!! Michael Waltrip actually made a race. :eek:

Bout time!

[sub4]

Mayfield in the race :D

Newman wins the pole, with Jr. rounding out the front row.

[cflames89]

HOLY ****!!!!! Michael Waltrip actually made a race. :eek:

Lies!!!!!!!!!! ;)

[Bronko]

So it took until June, but Mikey will finally be in positive driver points :p.

[Gooker1]

assuming he doesn't finish dead last.

[avsfan21]

He would still be out of negative numbers. He is -27 points and for last place you get 34 points.

[deogg]

HOLY ****!!!!! Michael Waltrip actually made a race. :eek:

Satan must have put on his parka, cuz I think hell just froze over!

[x90mattman]

Race Postponed till Noon on Monday 6/4 due to rain.

[cflames89]

Weather forcast does not look a whole lot better for tomorrow.

[avsfan21]

Why cant it rain here. I swear we are lucky to see it once a month. I guess we just need a Race here to get some rain.

[Sinsightful]

Announcement should be made in the next ten days:

Dale Jr. signing with Gibbs Racing with VISA as his sponser next year.

[ramos]

Announcement should be made in the next ten days:

Dale Jr. signing with Gibbs Racing with VISA as his sponser next year.

Source? I hope that's true because I am not too excited about Jr. coming to RCR. They (RCR) have finally turned the corner and are putting out quality cars/races on a pretty consistant basis. While it would've been great for the t-shirt/diecast sales I think the distraction of having Jr. around would hurt the organization. If he does end up with RCR I hope Im wrong.

[avsfan21]

Sad to hear that Bill France Jr. died this afternoon. :( RIP.

[Bronko]

Another week and another Busch/Stewart incident. Busch is parked for the rest of this race, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him parked for another one.

[avsfan21]

Nice to see another first time winner. Although I was hoping that Jimmie would have at least made a race of it.

[Bronko]

Martin Truex Jr. 0 for 57: 2nd at Homestead in '06.

Anyone see another first time winner this season? I think Bowyer can break through, and maybe Riggs or Truex could get lucky.

So yeah I totally called this one :p.

[ramos]

Another week and another Busch/Stewart incident. Busch is parked for the rest of this race, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him parked for another one.

I had to step out and missed what Busch did. I saw the replay of the wreck but what did Bush do on pit road? I started Labonte instead on Newman today:( Last week I went with Newman and got burned now I get burned again lol.

[avsfan21]

I had to step out and missed what Busch did. I saw the replay of the wreck but what did Bush do on pit road? I started Labonte instead on Newman today:( Last week I went with Newman and got burned now I get burned again lol.

Same here. I wasnt going to start him this week either, but he was on the pole and Casey Mears was starting 41st so I switched them. Glad I did.

[Bronko]

I had to step out and missed what Busch did. I saw the replay of the wreck but what did Bush do on pit road?

He drove into Stewart's car and stayed there as the crew was still working on it.

[avsfan21]

I figured you guys might get a kick out of the car I painted in Forza 2.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/avsfan21/dupont.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/avsfan21/dupont2.jpg

It isnt perfect but the best I could do with my limited skills and what they give you to work with. I even bought the black wing to give it a COT feel to it.

[Gooker1]

Busch got dinged 100 points and I think $100k today for that little incident.

Who's excited for the most boring race of the year? (I can't stand Pocono)

[cflames89]

Who's excited for the most boring race of the year? (I can't stand Pocono)

I hate Pocono with a passion. I love it for naps though.

[R. Giles]

Pocono is one track that they only need one race and it only needs to be 300 miles.

[avsfan21]

Thank God the F1 race is in Canada this week so it should start about the same time as the nascar race. So I should have something to watch.

[Oiler_Fan]

I figured you guys might get a kick out of the car I painted in Forza 2.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/avsfan21/dupont.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/avsfan21/dupont2.jpg

It isnt perfect but the best I could do with my limited skills and what they give you to work with. I even bought the black wing to give it a COT feel to it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again..

SWEET!

[Oiler_Fan]

I'll pass on watching the entire Pocono race this week. I'll probably pop into the broadcast every now and then to see what's developing.

I'll definately be watching the Canadian GP.

[avsfan21]

I just remembered I wont be able to watch either since we are having a ****ing open house sunday and I have to be out of the house for 3 hours.

[R. Giles]

you can come to my house if you want and watch the race

[avsfan21]

I am not sure what I am going to do since I might have the dog as well. Oh fun times.

[Sinsightful]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/sinsightful/Nascar/elviscar.jpg

Thought you guys would want to see a picture of Jr.'s paint scheme in Richmond later this year. That is Elvis on the car......I have been looking everywhere for this image and finally found one, sorry its a small image.

[avsfan21]

you need to use the tag instead

Like this

[img] http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/sinsightful/Nascar/elviscar.jpg

without the spaces though

[Sinsightful]

you need to use the tag instead

Like this

[img] http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/sinsightful/Nascar/elviscar.jpg

without the spaces though

thanks, I figured it out.

[avsfan21]

Wow 6 whole trucks on the lead lap.

[avsfan21]

We want Rain like now.

[avsfan21]

YEAH BABY BEST CREW IN THE LEAGUE.

[Bronko]

What a lucky break; bad breaks, tires were shot, and in another 10 seconds and he'd have lost that race.

[avsfan21]

Well if the race is finished, once again I will the winner of the race sitting on my bench for the league.

[avsfan21]

They should just call it quits. I mean it is already 7:30.

[ramos]

Well if the race is finished, once again I will the winner of the race sitting on my bench for the league.

I will be burned by not starting Newman for the 2nd straight week...ugh:( Not to mention being burned for starting him in the 600. So thats 3 weeks with Newman drama for me.:(

[avsfan21]

#4 this year for the 24 and 79th for the career.

[avsfan21]

I dont know if you can only call it luck, sure they were lucky it rained when it did, but the strategy was what put them there.

[avsfan21]

I am not saying there wasnt luck involved, there is luck in every win, but you can say that he won due to luck alone. Although I cant wait for Deogg to come in here and claim if it was anyone other than Gordon they would have waited to throw the yellow.

[avsfan21]

Yeah move both dates to road courses.

[Gooker1]

Anyways.. on a totalyl different subject.. who wants to start the petition to fill Pocono with cement?

SIGNED!!

As happy as I am that the 24 won it w/ great strategy and timely weather, this place blows. Boring racing - dump it and add another to vegas or something.

Congrats to the crew of the 24, that weather/pit/fuel stuff is nerveracking but entertaining to watch.

[avsfan21]

Ditch both Pocono dates for Laguna Seca and Road America. Although I doubt the roads around Laguna Seca could handle a major race like cup, but it would be awesome to see all the cars going though the corkscrew.

[Dirty Mo Posse]

Earnhardt to address driving future, Hendrick is the Forerunner.

June 12, 2007
AP - Jun 11, 1:54 pm EDT

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Dale Earnhardt Jr. has decided where he will drive next season, and all signs point to Hendrick Motorsports.

NASCAR's most popular driver called a Wednesday news conference at his race shop, JR Motorsports, and spokesman Mike Davis said it was to announce his plans for 2008 and beyond.

It's the same site where Junior announced May 10 he would leave DEI and enter the free-agent market.

That move ignited a whirlwind of recruiting rarely scene in NASCAR, and there's been nonstop talk regarding where Earnhardt would end up. He's made shop visits and met with various car owners while he trying to make a decision.

His sister, Kelley Earnhardt Elledge, is handling his negotiations and has maintained their first choice was to keep Earnhardt in a Chevrolet. She has said the majority of her conversations have been with NASCAR's top Chevy teams.

Hendrick is the best in NASCAR right now, with 10 wins through the first 15 points races this season.

Speculation grew Monday night that Earnhardt was close to a deal with Hendrick, but officials declined comment Tuesday. Elledge did not respond to messages from The Associated Press.

Rick Hendrick currently has four drivers under contract, and told the AP last month ``there was no room at the inn'' for Earnhardt. NASCAR rules permit a car owner to field four Nextel Cup teams.

But multiple sources -- speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because Earnhardt's plans have not been announced -- said Hendrick officials have been working for nearly three weeks to figure out how to bring the star driver into the fold. One scenario could put Earnhardt into the No. 5 car that Kyle Busch currently drives.

Busch is under contract through 2008, and Hendrick has said he wanted to sign the 22-year-old driver to an extension. But there are rumblings Busch has asked to be released from his contract.

Asked if that was true, Hendrick spokesman Jesse Essex said, ``We don't comment on contractual issues.''

Busch was testing in Milwaukee on Tuesday and not available to comment.

It's still possible Earnhardt could end up at Richard Childress Racing, where his father won six of his seven championships, or Joe Gibbs Racing. But Childress is out of the country, and the assistant to Gibbs president J.D. Gibbs said Gibbs is away all week.

:D

Posse

[Bronko]

This is going to get good :D. Junyah nation is going to be going through some big changes :p.