SFL Season 7 Official League Thread - Welcome New Commish HollandX

[Chugga]

Welcome to year 7 of the Spawn Football League. Since this is a keeper league managers that played last year get first dibs on their teams before we start looking for new managers. Spawn Board members that are reading this for the first time there WILL be openings but unfortunately we can't take you in yet as a manager until we gauge exactly how many people are coming back and how many openings we'll have to hand out. As it stands right now there are a few openings so check back later.

To exsisting managers now it's time to claim your team. By claiming your team you are saying that you WILL be playing this year and you WILL be paying for this year. Instead of the normal "you pay, you lock in a team" this year we'll be doing things more on the honor system so that things can move along faster and smoother. Claiming a team doesn't mean you have to have your money order out in the mail tomorrow morning, but it does mean that it will get out sooner or later.

Now onto the league details

Host - Myfantasyleague.com will be hosting the league for the 5th straight year. To view this years league you can go here: http://www36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/home/25895

Setup - Things remain the same as we keep going with the NFL theme, 32 teams, 2 conferences, 8 divisions

Type - More of the same as we bring back the head-to-head keeper league.

Scheduling - We'll be switching it up a little this year and having 3 in-division games, 2 in-conference games, 1 out of conference game, a rivalry week, 1 out of conference game, 2 in-conference games, and 3 in-division games.

Rosters - Rosters will consist of 14 starters, 9 bench spots, 2 Taxi squad for a grand total of 25 roster spots. Starters will be QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, K, DL, DL, LB, LB, DB, DB and of course Coach.

Points System - Points system will be alot like last year. FRACTIONS ARE YOU FRIENDS!!! You get points for every single yard your players grind out, thats how it's supposed to be. A guy that runs for 50 yards and a guy who runs for 59 yards should have different point totals and in the SFL we acknowledge that.

Drafting - The draft will more then likely be held in mid-late July depending on how the vast majority of the league wants to handle things. Keepers will be named before the draft to allow people to be able to pull off trades. For new managers reading this our draft generally takes between 2-3 weeks to finish. Every team gets 12 hours to make a selection, it sounds awful but you'd be suprised how quickly it's your pick again.

Prizes - Prizes will once again be passed out to the 4 finalists. With Mcfarlane figures not being what they used to be, winners will be getting a cash prize at the end of the season.

Payment - This year I will exclusively be taking money orders or cash as payment. I can't deal with another Paypal scandal like last year and how that threw things off. To get my payment information simply send me a PM and I'll reply with my address. Remember to include in your payment envelop your screen name and what team/teams you are paying for.

Teams Available

Buffalo Bills - Chugga
Miami Dolphins - Cochese75
New England Patriots - Toightlikeatiger
New York Jets - domejohnny

Baltimore Ravens - ralph427 - Wants to trade team
Cincinnati Bengals - Zildjian
Cleveland Browns - Rick Geer
Pittsburgh Steelers - progrip

Houston Texans - Meatgoat
Indianapolis Colts - Grif
Jacksonville Jaguars - Klesla44
Tennessee Titans - Titanhorns

Denver Broncos - ewto16
Kansas City Chiefs - Goalkeeper
Oakland Raiders - Alex99
San Diego Chargers - HollandX

Dallas Cowboys - Bigragu
New York Giants -
Philadelphia Eagles - NBA23Jordan
Washington Redskins - Hokies

Chicago Bears - Jomo3640
Detroit Lions - CJF28
Green Bay Packers - Kallisti
Minnesota Vikings - Monster

Atlanta Falcons -
Carolina Panthers -
New Orleans Saints - deuce26
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - metros69

Arizona Cardinals - raltherr
St. Louis Rams - Shopson1
San Francisco 49ers - Owenstar
Seattle Seahawks - mdmorgan

Those who are not returning are in Green
Those who are returning but haven't paid are in Red
Those who have paid are in Blue

As always have fun, and I hope to see everyone back.

[Chugga]

The league website has been set up and the draft order is up and running. I'll keep the scheduling/announcements in this post....

First and foremost I have to tell you about the league changes this year. There will be NO future draft pick trading this year. Only picks you can trade are those for the 2008 season. Also you'll only have to send in $10 this year instead of the regular $20. I'm going to be 100% honest and up front with everyone. I'm tieing up all of the leagues loose ends because unfortunately I'm just tired of being commissioner. I love this league, love the managers in this league but satisfying and dealing with 32 different personalities 9 months a year for the last 7 years has just been draining on me and I REALLY want to find a replacement so this league can move forward and continue. This will be my last season as the head commish. I'm not saying I won't come back in some sort of capacity to help move things along or help put things together but as far as it being "my" league. Thats likely going to end with this season.

I don't want to see this league die, it shouldn't have to die, we just need 1 person to step forward and say I think I can handle it and when they do I can make the transition as simple as possible for them.

As for the timeline. I hope to have everyone in the league settled and ready to play as of mid June. We'll have all the returning managers ready and hopefully all the new incoming managers ready. We'll immediately name keepers after that and lets plan on a draft in mid/late July like the last 2 years.

[Titanhorns]

I'll be back as the Titans

[cochese75]

im back




:spawnorb:

[cochese75]

how much did we send last year? $30?



:spawnorb:

[Chugga]

$20 last year. Only time you ever sent $30 was year 1.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Im back as the Patriots....and for the record I hope this season goes smoothly so you reconsider your stance on leaving as commish! Remember anything can happen in the WWE....errr SFL. :)

[PATS Fan #12]

I'm in the MFL League and would be interested in taking over one of the vacant teams. Doesn't matter which team it is but if I had my choice it would be Lions, Bears, Bucs

[klesla44]

i'm back

[ToightLikeATiger]

Do we have a list of things we will be voting on before the season starts or are we saying dont bother since this is probably the last year? Waiver situation would be 1 thing I would like to see voted on if possible.

Hopefully we know if the SFL is going to be around in 2009 before the draft. If its not then draft strategies will change a whole lot. Right now Im not very confident in the survival to be honest :(. I would love to grab a good rookie keeper this year and try to have good keepers for now and the future. Would be tough to take a rookie like Mendenall over a RB like Brandon Jacobs (just an example) when the future is a puzzle. Obviously Jacobs would pay dividends this year and Mendenhall would be in the future.

I hope someone will jump in and help Chugga out here. I dont want to see this thing go away.

[HOF66]

if you have an open spot i would like a shot at a team

[alex99]

I'm back ... pm your address.

[HollandX]

I'm back as the Chargers.

I'll toss my hat into the commish role, too, if you really are giving it up...

[ewto16]

In and I'll take the Broncos again. PM me your addy.

[bigragu]

Im back as the cowboys Pm me your addy and Ill send the money

[xmanjr]

If you have a vacant spot I will like to join

[todderfield]

im interested in a vacant team also.....

[Grif]

Back in as the SFL Colts


PM sent to Chugga and HollandX

[shopson1]

back as the Rams, of course!

[raltherr]

Back as the Cardinals!

[ToightLikeATiger]

I would have no problem with HollandX as commish as long as Chugga stayed on as a consultant type. I still think Chugga should be the top guy but there should be an assistant commish that does the heavy lifting for him!

Also if we get this taken care of before the draft and the SFL has a future can we bring back the future draft pick trading for this year? Once again I think it should be regulated in some manner but in order to trade in the draft or to trade players sometimes the future draft picks are needed to even the deal out.

[Chugga]

If I can find a sure-fire will be here 110% no questions asked next season commish before the draft then we can open things up again and go about our regular business. I just don't want any loose ends on MY end of the deal. I don't want to find someone who is like "oh sure I'll be commish" then next year comes along and they are like "ehh I don't know, I'm kinda busy" then I'm locked in another year. I want to make sure if I say someone else is going to be commish this year then I can help train him this year and use this year as a learning experience and then he should be able to fly the plane mostly by himself next year. So far HollandX has expressed interest and Grif has said he would possibly be interested in helping him out also.

Myfantasyleague.com is pretty damn easy to run, but even if those 2 run into problems next year I have no problem what-so-ever answering 100's of their emails/pm's to get things going. I don't mind being a consultant I just want out of the spotlight. So I'll talk to HollandX and Grif and see what we can come up with.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I think Grif would be a great person to run things. Also if it was a duo thing with Holland it would be even better. 2 different guys working together for the better of the league isnt a bad thing. If you stay around Chugga as a consultant you can be that 3rd person tie breaker type if needed.

I like how things are starting to look and I hope it moves forward so we can go on with business as usual. I would volunteer to help but I dont wanna ruffle any more feathers. Im sure me just being here bothers some so trying to be head guy would be even worse lol. But I fully support Grif and HollandX. They are good choices.

Btw Chugga with your drafting of all the Bills players youll never be out of the spotlight :p. Trent Edwards in round 1, James Hardy in round 2 as your franchised rookie and drafting Leodis McKelvin in round 3 as your defensive keeper. Youll have plenty of spotlight on you then :)

[ToightLikeATiger]

bump.

Chugga I sent you a PM. Not sure if it went through or not. Been having trouble sending and recieving PM's on here lately.

[Chugga]

Sorry for not being very vocal just yet (league emails haven't even gone out yet) but the search for a new commish has actually come along alot better than I expected and I'm trying to really get that out of the way so this league can move forward without losing a step and get that all out of the way before we even draft so the new commish can not only get his feet wet but we can get a quick and easy transition this offseason.

If things go according to plan the SFL can live on for another 7+ years, we just gotta get some important things behind the scenes nailed down.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Sorry for not being very vocal just yet (league emails haven't even gone out yet) but the search for a new commish has actually come along alot better than I expected and I'm trying to really get that out of the way so this league can move forward without losing a step and get that all out of the way before we even draft so the new commish can not only get his feet wet but we can get a quick and easy transition this offseason.

If things go according to plan the SFL can live on for another 7+ years, we just gotta get some important things behind the scenes nailed down.

Sounds like good news then. :)

[Titanhorns]

Here-here for Grif and HollandX!

[alex99]

What the heck is going on ... the NUMBER #1 FF league isn't even on the top page . Do we need some new owners or a new Commish?:D

[CJF28]

If you have a vacant spot I will like to join

I thought you were dead?

[CJF28]

oh, sounova*****. gawdammit.


Chugga, can I be the lions? :(

[ToightLikeATiger]

oh, sounova*****. gawdammit.


Chugga, can I be the lions? :(

I think I can speak for the rest of the league when I say....Absolutely! lol

Ok so I cant speak for the rest of the league but I have no problem letting you have your team back. Losing you hurts the league.

[ewto16]

oh, sounova*****. gawdammit.


Chugga, can I be the lions? :(

I say yes as well. It isn't like Chugga has started recruiting new people yet anyway.

[cochese75]

i say no


:rolleyes:

:spawnorb:

[ToightLikeATiger]

i say no


:rolleyes:

:spawnorb:

Noone cares what you think! :rolleyes::p

[Kallisti]

I'll be back as the Packers and eager to defend my title.

[cochese75]

Noone cares what you think! :rolleyes::p

youre probably right :D




:spawnorb:

[xmanjr]

I thought you were dead?



Just got married and now have 2 kids that keep me busy all damn day!!!

Well I guess Im pretty close to dead ;):D

Whatever happen to the league you ran?

[CJF28]

I killed it. too many whiners.

I keep getting you confused with go-canada-go. He never paid, and when I called his house, they said he died.
couple of weeks later, i saw him trading on here again, and when i confronted him, he said it was his brothers account he was using, and that his brother died

[cochese75]

I killed it. too many whiners.

I keep getting you confused with go-canada-go. He never paid, and when I called his house, they said he died.
couple of weeks later, i saw him trading on here again, and when i confronted him, he said it was his brothers account he was using, and that his brother died

hahaha freaking loser



:spawnorb:

[CJF28]

hahaha freaking loser



:spawnorb:

yea, all over $30. some people............

[xmanjr]

I killed it. too many whiners.

I keep getting you confused with go-canada-go. He never paid, and when I called his house, they said he died.
couple of weeks later, i saw him trading on here again, and when i confronted him, he said it was his brothers account he was using, and that his brother died


Holy Crap..I remember that board drama..

What a BUM!

[ToightLikeATiger]

I killed it. too many whiners.

I keep getting you confused with go-canada-go. He never paid, and when I called his house, they said he died.
couple of weeks later, i saw him trading on here again, and when i confronted him, he said it was his brothers account he was using, and that his brother died

*** lol...the whole "he died" thing is way overused in scamming. Atleast come up with something original and remotely believable.

[ewto16]

I died.....can I still be the Broncos?

[HollandX]

Can your corpse pay?

[ToightLikeATiger]

Can your corpse pay?

lmfao! Jimmy Hoffa can take Metros spot as long as he has the cash :)

[ewto16]

Can your corpse pay?

Of course. My corpse can use the Internet. Certainly it can use BillPay to send Chugga money.

[HollandX]

Of course. My corpse can use the Internet. Certainly it can use BillPay to send Chugga money.

Just make sure your mouth doesn't write checks your corpse can't cash.

[mdmorgan]

I'm back.

Is it my draft pick yet?

[Chugga]

If you haven't noticed already if you look at the title of this thread the SFL officially has a new commissioner. It's been a long fun ride but it's time for Chugga to move on...and by move on I mean still manage the Buffalo Bills (I mean who else could do that anyways) but let HollandX do all of the heavy lifting. I'll still be answering questions and helping HollandX get things in order but overall he's the big guy now. I apologize to the few people that did say they wanted to be commish and we spoke in PM but HollandX just seemed like the logical choice. He was quick to jump at the opportunity, open to learning the ropes quickly, and is laid back and chill enough to deal with juggling 31 personalities on a daily basis.

With that being said I'm really psyched about this news. I never wanted to see the SFL die and with HollandX stepping forward finally we know the future of the SFL will be bright, but most importantly there WILL be a future to the SFL. So make sure to welcome HollandX, he's your new dictator and I'm sure he'll be great.

[raltherr]

Awesome news. I was hoping Addai and Peterson weren't gonna go to waste! :D

[Kallisti]

Welcome to the hot seat, HollandX. Thanks for stepping up. Also, many thanks to you too, Chugga.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Great News! LONG LIVE THE SFL!

So whats on the offseason agenda now Holland? :)

[jomo3640]

With things apparently under control (new commish) - MORE CIVIL posts, and a bit more settled, if it is not too late, I would like to return to manage the Bears. If not, I understand

[Titanhorns]

I killed it. too many whiners.

I keep getting you confused with go-canada-go. He never paid, and when I called his house, they said he died.
couple of weeks later, i saw him trading on here again, and when i confronted him, he said it was his brothers account he was using, and that his brother died

I remember that. What a loser!

[HollandX]

If you haven't noticed already if you look at the title of this thread the SFL officially has a new commissioner. It's been a long fun ride but it's time for Chugga to move on...and by move on I mean still manage the Buffalo Bills (I mean who else could do that anyways) but let HollandX do all of the heavy lifting. I'll still be answering questions and helping HollandX get things in order but overall he's the big guy now. I apologize to the few people that did say they wanted to be commish and we spoke in PM but HollandX just seemed like the logical choice. He was quick to jump at the opportunity, open to learning the ropes quickly, and is laid back and chill enough to deal with juggling 31 personalities on a daily basis.

With that being said I'm really psyched about this news. I never wanted to see the SFL die and with HollandX stepping forward finally we know the future of the SFL will be bright, but most importantly there WILL be a future to the SFL. So make sure to welcome HollandX, he's your new dictator and I'm sure he'll be great.
...
I agree to wha... Er... I mean... he agreed to what?

This is HollandX's family. HollandX died.

[HollandX]

Great News! LONG LIVE THE SFL!

So whats on the offseason agenda now Holland? :)

Cheerleaders. Each team is required to have cheerleaders.

All auditions will be held here at the HollandX Hills and I hope it will eventually become an annual reality show on E!.

Otherwise, my first official task will be to find out who's returning and who isn't. Look out for my first league-wide email!

[Chugga]

I just got the great first league email. It was in my bulk though so owners make sure you check your bulk and make sure you have HollandX on your contacts or at least not marked as spam, as all league emails will be coming from him from now on.

First page has been updated with all returning managers. We still have a ways to go, but it's early and in a league so old alot of the managers kinda have to be poked and reminded the Spawn Board still exsists.

[ToightLikeATiger]

With things apparently under control (new commish) - MORE CIVIL posts, and a bit more settled, if it is not too late, I would like to return to manage the Bears. If not, I understand

Great News! I was going to start a thread once we got this settled asking for you an Metros to return lol. Glad you decided to come back you are a great owner.

We just need to get Metros to come back now and we will be back in full :)

Now everyone PM metros and harrass him till he comes back lol.

[cochese75]

Congrats HollandX




:spawnorb:

[ToightLikeATiger]

New England Patriots keepers for the 2008 season are...

Offensive Keeper- Frank Gore
Defensive Keeper- Nick Barnett
Rookie Keeper #1- Chad Jackson
Rookie Keeper #2- Brandon Jackson

[ToightLikeATiger]

If anyone in the AFC is unhappy with their keeper situation and is looking to start over with their team I may be interested in trading if you have a quality player! :)

[meatgoat]

Congrats HollandX.

The Texans will be back to continue our dominance of the AFC. :D

[rugbyplayer11]

I am in the MFL and if there is any vacant spots and no one on the list I would like to put my name in the hat. I asked last year but there was no room for me.

[cochese75]

Miami Dolphins Keepers

Offensive: Larry Johnson RB
Defensive: ???
Rookie Keeper Yr 1: None
Rookie Keeper Yr 2: Joseph Addai RB
Rookie Keeper Yr 3: John Beck QB




:spawnorb:

[Grif]

Congrats Mark,

viva la resistance!

I'll be back as the Colts and I'm also willing to help out as a co-commish, conference commish, etc, whatever capacity that may be needed.

Offensive keeper: Michael Turner
Defensive keeper: DeMeco Ryans
Rookie keeper#1: Vince Young
Rookie keeper#2: Calvin Johnson

[ToightLikeATiger]

Miami Dolphins Keepers

Offensive: Larry Johnson RB
Defensive: ???
Rookie Keeper Yr 1: None
Rookie Keeper Yr 2: Joseph Addai RB
Rookie Keeper Yr 3: John Beck QB




:spawnorb:

Just think 2 years ago if you had Johnson and Addai you would have the best backfield in the SFL. Now Larry Johnson as a keeper doesnt look so good does he? lol.

[Chugga]

Marshawn Lynch & Clinton Portis will be running strong this year I can guarentee you that

[cochese75]

Just think 2 years ago if you had Johnson and Addai you would have the best backfield in the SFL. Now Larry Johnson as a keeper doesnt look so good does he? lol.

yeah what sucks is i picked LJ over Tomlinson :(:rolleyes:

oh well atleast it'll make my choice easier after this season





:spawnorb:

[ToightLikeATiger]

yeah what sucks is i picked LJ over Tomlinson :(:rolleyes:

oh well atleast it'll make my choice easier after this season





:spawnorb:

Lol I remember you had to choose between the both of them. Titanhorns should still be thanking you for screwing that up :)

[ToightLikeATiger]

Marshawn Lynch & Clinton Portis will be running strong this year I can guarentee you that

Trent Edwards will be passing strong and the trio of Lee Evans/Josh Reed and James Hardy will be catching strong.

[ToightLikeATiger]

How is the payment situation going to take place now? Are we paying Holland or are we still paying Chugga? Also can we send via Paypal now? Obviously we cant say its for pornography or anything lol. A simple "money for (team name) figures" would be safe.

[Hokies]

I will be back as Redskins. We are rebuilding this year :)

Offensive Keeper- Brandon Jacobs
Defensive Keeper- Ellis Hobbs
Rookie Keeper #1- Ronnie Brown
Rookie Keeper #2- None

Congrats Holland

[littlejacque25]

I'd be very interested in taking over the Vikings.

[domejohnny]

How is the payment situation going to take place now? Are we paying Holland or are we still paying Chugga? Also can we send via Paypal now? Obviously we cant say its for pornography or anything lol. A simple "money for (team name) figures" would be safe.

**** dude, you gotta pay for 16 teams :)

Mark, I'll be back as the Jets!

[CJF28]

Offensive Keeper: Carson Palmer
Defensive Keeper: Lance Briggs
Rookie Keeper #1: Deangelo Williams
Rookie Keeper #2: Dwayne Bowe

[bluemacaw2]

what the heck.....Can I play and have the Steelers?

[ToightLikeATiger]

**** dude, you gotta pay for 16 teams :)

Mark, I'll be back as the Jets!

lol! with the few people tha tell me how to run my team I was hoping they would chip in and pay my fee for me. :o:p:D

[Deuce26]

Saints are marching again:D

[ralph427]

Can I have a new Team? Don't want to be the Ravens anymore.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Can I have a new Team? Don't want to be the Ravens anymore.

I believe you can but you have to pay my entry fee to do so :)

Depends on if there is a new team available and if you want it really. Cory switched in the offseason before. If the interest is there from you and there is a team you want available I dont see why not.

[CJF28]

no i didnt. i was asking to switch with someone else. but i stayed the lions. you cant just hop to a team with better keepers

[ToightLikeATiger]

no i didnt. i was asking to switch with someone else. but i stayed the lions. you cant just hop to a team with better keepers

Oh ok I thought you made the switch :o

So it has to be a team for team thing....got it. Highly unlikely that will happen unless a newcomer wants to do it I would think.


Ravens have Shaun Alexander as the top keeper....who wouldnt want that?

[CJF28]

the problem it represents is, if the team with Tomlinson becomes available, how do you decide who gets the move to the new team?

my situation was I wanted to change conferences, and was looking for somone in the AFC to switch with me

[ToightLikeATiger]

Yeah I agree there shouldnt be any switching unless 2 teams agree on it. Maybe even switching conferences. Still I dont understand why Ralph wants to switch. Alexander and Benson as keepers.....god thats dominating :)

[ToightLikeATiger]

btw guys I started a calling out Metros thread with this link included. 2 of the 3 guys who were leaving stayed and I personally would like Metros back as well. I can only speak for myself though. But if anyone feels this way please join in that thread and show support for him to come back. He and I dont agree on much but I respect him as a FF owner and he does a good job.

[Chugga]

As for money orders this is the last year I'll be receiving them. I'd hand that duty over to HollandX this year also but I've already got half of your money for this year so I might as well finish it off. This is the last year I'll receive money and also last year I'll start up the thread. Everything else is on HollandX

[ToightLikeATiger]

As for money orders this is the last year I'll be receiving them. I'd hand that duty over to HollandX this year also but I've already got half of your money for this year so I might as well finish it off. This is the last year I'll receive money and also last year I'll start up the thread. Everything else is on HollandX

Are we still doing just $10? Does that impact our ability to trade future picks as well? I know we go on an honor system here so I believe everyone would do the right thing but an official ruling on that is probably needed.

[Chugga]

This year will likely be "honor system" based. I'm going to do the $10 thing but more so that you guys get a fresh start next year with HollandX as commish/banker rather than anything else.

[Chugga]

And toight I did get your pm a few days back and I'm not ignoring you, just give me time.

[ToightLikeATiger]

And toight I did get your pm a few days back and I'm not ignoring you, just give me time.

take your time :)

[alex99]

Congrats new commish ... HollandX.

[ralph427]

Yeah I agree there shouldnt be any switching unless 2 teams agree on it. Maybe even switching conferences. Still I dont understand why Ralph wants to switch. Alexander and Benson as keepers.....god thats dominating :)

Thought I could switch teams in name only, if it was in the same conference.

[CJF28]

i think it would still cause problems as it changes your schedule.


cory

[ewto16]

Congrats HollandX!!!

[NBA23Jordan]

I''m back as the Eagles. When do we need to let you know about keepers?

[Titanhorns]

When do we need to let you know about keepers?

I'm curious also what the date is. I need some more time to decide om my def. keeper.

[todderfield]

im still interested in joining... if any openings.... thanks...

[HollandX]

Hey the boards are back!

We'll be looking at a late June deadline for naming keepers, so nothing to fret about today.

Right now our focus is on seeing who's returning and who isn't. A lot of owners might have strayed away for the spring, and we have to recapture them. Also if I'm being honest, people might not want to come back because I'm not Chugga.

So... let's give them another few weeks.

I'll PM them individually, and I might send another mass e-mail.

[CJF28]

Hey the boards are back!

We'll be looking at a late June deadline for naming keepers, so nothing to fret about today.

Right now our focus is on seeing who's returning and who isn't. A lot of owners might have strayed away for the spring, and we have to recapture them. Also if I'm being honest, people might not want to come back because I'm not Chugga.

So... let's give them another few weeks.

I'll PM them individually, and I might send another mass e-mail.

and lets be honest, some people may come back because your not Chugga.

robs a pal, so its not like Im dogging him. but lets be honest, when the Bills and his FFL season go down the tubes, so does his interest in FFL

[Grif]

when the Bills and his FFL season go down the tubes

every year then;)

[CJF28]

exactly. How many times has Rob had the #1 pick? I know in my contract year league, he had it 3 outta 4 years

[HollandX]

I have the #1 pick this year.

It's a commissioner thing.

;)

[CJF28]

damn, I would have offered to commish, if I knew it would get me the #1 pick

[Zildjian]

I will be back!

[Deuce26]

Can you name a RC FA as your RC keeper or did you have to draft him:)

[HollandX]

Have to draft and name him a franchised player then. You can still choose to have that player as a offensive or defensive keeper.

[Deuce26]

We are rebuilding this year :), Hell we are rebuilding every year:D

New Orleans Saints

Offensive Keeper- Stephen Jackson RB
Defensive Keeper- Will Smith DE
Rookie Keeper #1- None
Rookie Keeper #2- Brady Quinn QB :rolleyes:

[Titanhorns]

exactly. How many times has Rob had the #1 pick? I know in my contract year league, he had it 3 outta 4 years

A lot, except the time he traded his 1st to me and it ended up being #1 overall.

All it did was become LT. :p

[ToightLikeATiger]

Metros isnt responding to the thread I made. May have to replace him afterall :(. Was hoping he would reconsider also.

[TastySweetNutz]

I'm sure you guys have a list of players waiting in the wing but if you need a replacement manager let me know.

[Grif]

Metros isnt responding to the thread I made. May have to replace him afterall :(. Was hoping he would reconsider also.

He did respond

I won't be coming back. I haven't collected sps in years, other than Philly teams, so it just doesn't make sense for me to join the league. Sorry guys.

[ToightLikeATiger]

He did respond

yeah i saw that and reposted. we arent playing for SP's anymore. Just fun and cash. So not collecting SP's isnt a valid excuse :)

[alex99]

we arent playing for SP's anymore. Just fun and cash.
Did we change the prizes?
If not ... we should ...alot of the prize money goes to shipping charges. Speaking of changes ... are there going to be any new rule changes this year?

[littlejacque25]

Please send me a PM if the Vikings are available. I am willing to send paypal asap.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Did we change the prizes?
If not ... we should ...alot of the prize money goes to shipping charges. Speaking of changes ... are there going to be any new rule changes this year?

Yeah on the 1st post Chugga made on this thread he lists the prizes as cash. Which is a great move since hardly anyone here collects SP's other then their favorite player.

[Chugga]

Last year was the first we switched over to cash. To be honest it just hit me one day and I just sent out money orders. At one time I liked the fact that this league supported Mcfarlane by passing out his figures as prizes but nowadays with all the crappy decisions being made I'd rather people decide what they do with their prize money.

[Grif]

Speaking of changes ... are there going to be any new rule changes this year?

Yeah, no trading for current or future draft picks will be allowed ever. :rolleyes:

[HollandX]

The uncertainty of the league sort of drove us to that decision. I'm hopeful we can bring it back in the future if people are for it.

As for other rule changes this year, why doesn't everyone post their ideas?

I'm strongly for a waiver system. I like league parity, and I'm not usually for "first one to their computer gets the player."

[ToightLikeATiger]

I thought since everything is back on par we can trade future draft picks still. Chugga said he did that to make sure there on no loose ends on his part. Now that we have a new commish nothing should be changed. Future looks good so we can plan ahead. Atleast thats what Chugga posted before.

Also I would be up for a Waiver system vote and maybe even a position cap.

[jomo3640]

I thought since everything is back on par we can trade future draft picks still. Chugga said he did that to make sure there on no loose ends on his part. Now that we have a new commish nothing should be changed. Future looks good so we can plan ahead. Atleast thats what Chugga posted before.

Also I would be up for a Waiver system vote and maybe even a position cap.


I would support both of these - a waiver system would be great, and the site we use has a good one built in

[ToightLikeATiger]

I would support both of these - a waiver system would be great, and the site we use has a good one built in

Yeah we have a very good site that does things nicely for us. We should put it to good use thats for sure. Waiver system would make it fair for everyone. Also the position cap helps keep people interested and contending if an injury occurs. I think both will greatly improve the league.

I also think for the future draft pick trading that it should be allowed but with regulation. During the draft you can trade as much as you like. But during the year you can acquire or trade just 2 future draft picks. Thats combined. So you could trade 2 picks. Acquire 2 picks. Trade 1 pick and acquire 1 pick.

Something to that affect will prevent complete firesales. I also think the trade deadline for draft picks should be pushed back till like week 8 or so. We had it at week 4 and people were trading away players then. If a team starts 0-4 or 1-3 they could give up 4 weeks into the year. If the deadline is week 8 those teams that start badly could end up being 5-3, 4-4. 3-5 and possibly closer to contention. They will have a tougher time trying to make a trade if they still have a chance. Only teams that are 0-8 1-7 2-6 3-5 would be wanting to trade at that point. But it will be week 8 by then.

Just something to think about. Those are my only ideas at this point. Just want to see the league improve but also dont want to lose the things we had all along that added fun and creativity to the league.

[progrip]

PITTSBURGH STEELERS are back for the coming season. Glad to see the SFL lives on!

[ewto16]

I sort of hate waivers, but I'd be OK with it either way. A position cap might be interesting. I'm not sure if you need both.

I'd also like to see a firm decision on the starting of players on bye weeks or determined as out. There were still too many instances last year of people starting players on bye weeks or listed as out. I understand that sometimes a guy is going to be a last minute scratch, but I'm talking about guys clearly listed as out for the week.

We have a rule in place regarding it, but it wasn't enforced last year.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I sort of hate waivers, but I'd be OK with it either way. A position cap might be interesting.

I'd also like to see a firm decision on the starting of players on bye weeks or determined as out. There were still too many instances last year of people starting players on bye weeks or listed as out. I understand that sometimes a guy is going to be a last minute scratch, but I'm talking about guys clearly listed as out for the week.

We have a rule in place regarding it, but it wasn't enforced last year.

With a position cap there will be no excuse as to why you cant start someone else who isnt on bye. Reason people do it now is because they have 6 RB's or 7 WR's and arent willing to drop one to start a valid TE. Which you cant blame them because RB and WR have more value. But with a position cap you cant stack 1 position therefore you can have more backups at each position for your roster.

[raltherr]

I like the waiver system. But I am not in favor of a position cap. I carry extra at one position and less at another. That should be my choice. I'd rather we just make a rule that you can't start someone on a bye. Address the real issue.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I like the waiver system. But I am not in favor of a position cap. I carry extra at one position and less at another. That should be my choice. I'd rather we just make a rule that you can't start someone on a bye. Address the real issue.

Really cant force someone to drop a player who gets them legit points for a 1 week fill in who will barely score.

Who is going to drop a RB or WR that scores 5-10 points for a TE or Defensive guy who will score 1-5 maybe?

[raltherr]

Really cant force someone to drop a player who gets them legit points for a 1 week fill in who will barely score.

Who is going to drop a RB or WR that scores 5-10 points for a TE or Defensive guy who will score 1-5 maybe?

They shouldn't have put themself in that position. Plan ahead.

[ToightLikeATiger]

They shouldn't have put themself in that position. Plan ahead.

They are planning ahead stock piling more important positions to have security in case of injury or a hot streak instead of backing up a weaker position.

I dont know if I remember correctly but last year there were talks of expanding the Rosters? Having an IR spot or another Taxi perhaps? I could be wrong but maybe that was it?

[ToightLikeATiger]

Oh plus what if you have multiple guys on the same bye week? Its sometimes impossible to fill all the holes. But you cant fault a guy for wanting multiple Patriots or Cowboys players on their roster since they score big FF points.

[ToightLikeATiger]

PITTSBURGH STEELERS are back for the coming season. Glad to see the SFL lives on!

Welcome back amigo!

[HollandX]

Welcome back, progrip!

[cochese75]

The uncertainty of the league sort of drove us to that decision. I'm hopeful we can bring it back in the future if people are for it.

As for other rule changes this year, why doesn't everyone post their ideas?

I'm strongly for a waiver system. I like league parity, and I'm not usually for "first one to their computer gets the player."

how about we go a couple of years without new rules??




:spawnorb:

[ToightLikeATiger]

how about we go a couple of years without new rules??




:spawnorb:

It could happen if voted on that way. Everyone will have to vote on the rules people bring up. So if nothing gets passed that is very well possible.

Also I would like clarification on the draft pick trading...Since everything is back to normal and SFL has a bright future cant we forget about eliminating it at this point? Chugga did it for his sake as GM. But with a new GM and going forward there is no reason to eliminate it now.

[HollandX]

how about we go a couple of years without new rules??




:spawnorb:

If you think this is confusing...

Wait until the NFL adds another expansion team and we have to add a team too! Does the new owner get first crack at Free Agents for keepers? Where will they draft?!

Ack!

[Kallisti]

I wouldn't mind considering adding an extra flex player to the starting lineup. I think it could be a cool idea. Would also help with the "Stockpiling" issue. Those bench players would get used in neat ways. Perhaps starting an extra WR against a weak pass defense or even an extra QB.

[ewto16]

Really cant force someone to drop a player who gets them legit points for a 1 week fill in who will barely score.

Who is going to drop a RB or WR that scores 5-10 points for a TE or Defensive guy who will score 1-5 maybe?

They are planning ahead stock piling more important positions to have security in case of injury or a hot streak instead of backing up a weaker position.

I dont know if I remember correctly but last year there were talks of expanding the Rosters? Having an IR spot or another Taxi perhaps? I could be wrong but maybe that was it?

Oh plus what if you have multiple guys on the same bye week? Its sometimes impossible to fill all the holes. But you cant fault a guy for wanting multiple Patriots or Cowboys players on their roster since they score big FF points.

You should draft accordingly. The roster is setup to allow someone to have at least one backup at every position. If you can't or choose not to draft based on bye weeks so that you have a starter each game, then that is your fault.

The problem is a few things:

1. The league is so big that there really aren't that many free agents.
2. No waiver system, so the first person stockplies the big FA grab of the week.
3. No position limits, so it makes sense to horde 7-8 RBs versus having enough players at other postions.

The issue is that there is no one available to play if/when you did want to pick someone up for a bye week that is worth dropping someone from your roster. However, playing someone that is just starting bye week players is lame.

You run into the issue of someone that is 4-0 playing a bye week player in week 5 versus someone that is 0-11 playing one in week 12. The player in week 12 is probably tanking, but unless you enforce the rule all season long, you can't do anything about it.

Position caps, as stated by someone, else fixes this problem.

[Metros69]

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[Chugga]

Can I have a new Team? Don't want to be the Ravens anymore.

Ralph if you want a new team you'll have to trade OUT of conference. You and an owner of an NFC team would have to agree to trade and then you could take over that franchise. OR if someone in the NFC doesn't return you could claim dibs on that team and then give up the Ravens.

The key is you can't switch from AFC to AFC, or NFC to NFC. If you do switch you need an entirely new change of scenary. The main reason you can't trade within the same conference is because if you bring your players along with you it totally changes the dynamics of each division. If you want to change teams with another team in your division I suppose thats alright (since it would basically be a change in name alone).

[ToightLikeATiger]

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Welcome back you jabroni! :)

[alex99]

how about we go a couple of years without new rules??




:spawnorb:
I agree ... we put in the rules to stop the cheating (fire sale) and last year went smoothly.
Toight what's with you and trading Future picks ... you got 10 picks in the first 5 rounds ... how many do you need? If you can't win your division this year with all those picks you better pack it in.:D The Packers won it last year with all those extra picks early.
I'm still trying to figure out how one team can have a starting lineup already picked when another team doesn't even have half a team ... is fair?
It's like 16 guys are running the 100 yd dash ... 1 guy starts at 70 yd line ... 1 at the 80 yd ... 12 at the 100 and the 2 losers who got sucked in to start at the 110 yards and 120 yards to win the race. Ever wonder why the start teams are at the bottom every year because they trade away future picks or make dumb trades.

[HollandX]

I've posted three polls on the league site to help shape the rules for this upcoming season. I don't want to just throw out like 50 new rules, so I picked the three most popular for now.

To get to the polls, first head to the league site: http://www36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/home/25895. Then go Communications -> League Polls.

Please vote in each ASAP! They expire in three weeks (Wednesday, June 18th at 9pm ET) by when we hopefully have all (or close to all) owners reported or replaced.

The three polls are:

1.) Waiver Wire System-- Are you for or against this? A waiver wire system would freeze add/drops during football days (typically Sunday/Monday). This eliminates the current situation of "first person to the computer gets the good backup because the starter just broke his leg." Instead, all teams interested in the player makes a request for him. The site awards the player to the team with the lowest waiver rank that put a request in for the player. Waiver ranks are ordered from worst team to best team. As a team is granted a waiver player, that team then moves to the end of the waiver rank.

2.) Position Limitations-- Are you for or against this? This would put a cap on the number of players you can have per position. ie A maximum of 3 RBs total and 5 WRs total. The exact limitations will still have to be determined. Exceptions will have to be made for injured players. Exceptions will not be made for players on a bye.

3.) Draft pick trading for this upcoming season-- Are you for or against revisiting this topic? Now that there is stability back in the league (with a new commish), I am willing to revisit the idea of draft pick trading for this upcoming season. The exact draft pick trading rules will still have to be determined (by poll). I am basically asking if you want to REVISIT reinstating draft pick trading for this upcoming year. If we determine yes, future polls will determine the exact rules. If we determine no, no future polls on this topic are necessary in the immediate future.

Edit: I was not clear with #3, and I'd like to refine my intentions of the poll. What I'm asking you are FOR or AGAINST revisiting the idea of draft pick trading starting with this season. If the FORs win, we have have an in depth poll gathering your specific choise on it. (ie yes during the draft, no during the season, yes but with a maximum number of picks per season, no i am against draft pick trading totally.)

That's it for now. I'm sure we'll come up with more.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Good polls. Hope everyone goes out and votes! Vote or Die says P Diddy!

[alex99]

Suggestion for rules changes.
Waivers system is ok with me too BUT if you have a fricken clown picking up players and dropping them 2 seconds later ... no waivers.
Get rid of taxi squad and only have IR spots ... the team with injuried players needs the help not a team stock piling RBs..
Lower roster limits ... this will help the teams that are hit with lots of injuries and would keep them competitive.
Missing a 50yd FG ... should be 0 points not -1.
Other than that I think the league has all the correct rules in place.

[alex99]

Commish ... here's the problem with the poll which by the way is a good one.
If we do have position limits ... then I'm OK with trading future picks BUT if there are no position limits then I'm against trading future picks.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I agree ... we put in the rules to stop the cheating (fire sale) and last year went smoothly.
Toight what's with you and trading Future picks ... you got 10 picks in the first 5 rounds ... how many do you need? If you can't win your division this year with all those picks you better pack it in.:D The Packers won it last year with all those extra picks early.
I'm still trying to figure out how one team can have a starting lineup already picked when another team doesn't even have half a team ... is fair?
It's like 16 guys are running the 100 yd dash ... 1 guy starts at 70 yd line ... 1 at the 80 yd ... 12 at the 100 and the 2 losers who got sucked in to start at the 110 yards and 120 yards to win the race. Ever wonder why the start teams are at the bottom every year because they trade away future picks or make dumb trades.

Im not saying just for me Im saying for everyone. Its very difficult to make player for player deals here. Draft picks are almost a necessity to get a deal even and done. A lot of people here like to trade. I know your not a fan but I am so thats why I am for it. If it comes week before trade deadline and need something it would be nice to be able to make a trade and address that.

I like not having firesales that for sure. Hence why I want regulation on it. But I dont think we should eliminate it all together. It adds creativity to the league.

Btw I plan to dominate the AFC East. They had all they could handle with my so called "tanking" team last year. This year I will be coming at them in full force.

Also just because I have 10 picks in 5 rounds doesnt mean thats all I want to have. It also doesnt mean Ill keep them all. It all comes down to whats available at my picks. If I can move down and get the same guy I want on my board and get more picks I like to do that. I also could trade up to get a guy. I like having options like that. The draft to me is the best part of the SFL lol.

[HollandX]

Commish ... here's the problem with the poll which by the way is a good one.
If we do have position limits ... than I'm OK with trading future picks BUT if there are no position limits than I'm against trading future picks.

:eek:

Thanks for your ideas in this and the earlier post. I actually like some of your rule changes a lot (minus points for a long FG for starters). I think we can definitely work that into a vote later on. I don't think it'll mess up someone's draft. :p

As far as your vote quandry... Here's what I would do. I would vote for position limits and for draft revisiting. Because with the draft poll, we're only voting to see if drafting should be DISCUSSED again or not.

Then, if FOR drafting wins, you'll be able to choose how draft pick trading should be implemented or not, and by then, you'll know the results of position limits. You will even be able to vote "no draft pick trading" in the future draft revisit poll. Again, only if for drafting even wins.

Does that make sense?

Edit: I realize I was unclear of this the first time. I have edited my post and the poll. My apologies.

[ToightLikeATiger]

:eek:

Thanks for your ideas in this and the earlier post. I actually like some of your rule changes a lot (minus points for a long FG for starters). I think we can definitely work that into a vote later on. I don't think it'll mess up someone's draft. :p

As far as your vote quandry... Here's what I would do. I would vote for position limits and for draft revisiting. Because with the draft poll, we're only voting to see if drafting should be DISCUSSED again or not.

Then, if FOR drafting wins, you'll be able to choose how draft pick trading should be implemented or not, and by then, you'll know the results of position limits. You will even be able to vote "no draft pick trading" in the future draft revisit poll. Again, only if for drafting even wins.

Does that make sense?

I have a question on the draft pick trading vote then. Say majority decides to revist it the first time. Then we go and vote on rules for it. At that point all the people that vote no still vote no while the votes for yes is split in the rules. Will the majority no votes then overide it? Or will you still take the majority of yes votes and then choose whichever rule has the most?

[HollandX]

I have a question on the draft pick trading vote then. Say majority decides to revist it the first time. Then we go and vote on rules for it. At that point all the people that vote no still vote no while the votes for yes is split in the rules. Will the majority no votes then overide it? Or will you still take the majority of yes votes and then choose whichever rule has the most?

I'll go with the majority.

So I have to assume that if the majority wants AGAINST, they'll vote AGAINST in this poll right now, and we won't even ever get to future polls about it.

Cool?

[HollandX]

It's tough because I don't want to have to hold a zillion polls down to the very nitty gritty of EVERYTHING. ie "Are you for or against trading draft picks on Tuesdays in the rain?"

I'd like to be able to mandate SOME things in the league as Commissioner without the owners going crazy. But clearly for the big issues, I have no problem holding a vote.

It's my job to balance what's important and vote worthy, and what's trivial and to just set a ruling on without wasting everyone's time and patience.

Ya know?

[ToightLikeATiger]

I'll go with the majority.

So I have to assume that if the majority wants AGAINST, they'll vote AGAINST in this poll right now, and we won't even ever get to future polls about it.

Cool?

Its fair which means its cool in my book! :)

[Monster]

I'm exercising my right to retain control of the Vikings and this year I am promising more boat orgies.

[cochese75]

I'm exercising my right to retain control of the Vikings and this year I am promising more boat orgies.

i hope i get my invite




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[jomo3640]

Bears keepers

Offense - Larry Johnson
Defense - Ray Lewis
Rookie #1 - Lendale White
Rookie #2 - Jamarcus Russell

[Goalkeeper]

Kansas City Chiefs are BACK!

[Goalkeeper]

Keepers:

Offense - Peyton Manning
Defense - Marcus Trufant
Rookie #1 - Reggie Bush
Rookie #2 - Alex Smith

[Rick Geer]

Browns will return

Keepers

Off- Jamal Lewis
Rookie - Edwards, Gonzalez
Def - Hall

[Hokies]

Just voted. I like some of Alex' suggestions.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Looks like we could get everyone back this year! I hope thats the case :)

[raltherr]

Can we just have everyone mail their money orders to me right now? That way I'll already have the prize money in hand when I win the league! :D

Arizona Cardinals keepers:

Offense: Drew Brees
Franchise: Joseph Addai
Franchise: Adrian Peterson
Defense: DeMeco Ryans

[owenstar]

I am in....

But someone please let me paypal them....its totally my fault we cant paypal chugga anymore....but I dont think I even paid last year....chuggs, get me a total....if someone will ship the money order, I will pay extra for it or whatever.....

Seriously....I have IRS **** I was supposed to mail in that isnt done yet.....thats how bad I am...

[ToightLikeATiger]

Can we just have everyone mail their money orders to me right now? That way I'll already have the prize money in hand when I win the league! :D

Arizona Caridnals keepers:

Offense: Drew Brees
Franchise: Joseph Addai
Franchise: Adrian Peterson
Defense: DeMeco Ryans

You have great keepers...but your 2 RB's are injury prone and your QB is too. No checks mailed to you until they can stay healthy the whole year :)

[Chugga]

Ok last pieces of the puzzle are Brooks2, Senk, and Stevetreve, other than that everyone is coming back. Brooks2 hasn't been on the site since March so that could be a problem. Senk was around recently so we'll know soon enough there and stevetreve if I remember properly actually said he might not be coming back.

We'll give the 3 of them a little more time before we start looking for new people.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Let me know if any spots open up guys, been trying to get in since 2005 when domejohnny narced on me. Holler.

[cochese75]

Let me know if any spots open up guys, been trying to get in since 2005 when domejohnny narced on me. Holler.

hahaha




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[ToightLikeATiger]

Let me know if any spots open up guys, been trying to get in since 2005 when domejohnny narced on me. Holler.

If a spot opens up you get my vote....Im starting to feel bad for you after all these years of begging to get in.

[owenstar]

If a spot opens up you get my vote....Im starting to feel bad for you after all these years of begging to get in.

ditto...if he shortens his name back....:D

[ToightLikeATiger]

bump the best FF league going around to the top!

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

If a spot opens up you get my vote....Im starting to feel bad for you after all these years of begging to get in.

It's not even about begging, I felt like I was kept out for a pretty stupid reason but hopefully I can get in this year.

[ToightLikeATiger]

It's not even about begging, I felt like I was kept out for a pretty stupid reason but hopefully I can get in this year.

I think Ive voted for you each year youve wanted in lol. Personally I dont even think you should be voted on. Your committment to wanting to join and the fact you come up just short each year of getting in is enough for me to let you in at this point.

[alex99]

The SFL page looks good but if the girl was topless ... you would have the attention of all 32 managers ... everyday.:D

[domejohnny]

Let me know if any spots open up guys, been trying to get in since 2005 when domejohnny narced on me. Holler.

Gimme a ******* break, I didn't keep you out of this league...I was 1 vote for someone else and I don't even have anything against you. If a spot opens up, you have my vote....we were both in the MFL last year and I didn't have one issue with you one single time...I seriously don't know why you think I kept you out of the league.

Toight, why don't you quit so he can join :p

[domejohnny]

Guys, I've been having some health issues and haven't been on the board very much as of late - if you need me for anything, drop me an email: domejohnny@aol.com and that will be your fastest response.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Gimme a ******* break, I didn't keep you out of this league...I was 1 vote for someone else and I don't even have anything against you. If a spot opens up, you have my vote....we were both in the MFL last year and I didn't have one issue with you one single time...I seriously don't know why you think I kept you out of the league.

Toight, why don't you quit so he can join :p

ok.....but ill just come back a few weeks later like cory, jomo and junior :)

[domejohnny]

ok.....but ill just come back a few weeks later like cory, jomo and junior :)

I didn't even know they came back - shows where I'm at.

Mark, are we at the point of paying for this yet...if so, let me know how much/method of payment, etc, I'd like to get it out of the way....Chugga, aren't you going to miss the Subject lines in PayPal of some of the eccentric items you've received payment for each year, LOL :D

Hell if I die or something, Notorious can have my spot, but if you even so much as wish death on me once, you can go **** yourself and I hope they leave it vacant :)

[ToightLikeATiger]

cant wait for trading to open up bump!

[stevetreve]

What kind of timeframe am I looking at to decide if I want to come back or not. I don't want to hold things up for you guys- the big thing for me is the slow draft and my summer plans- which I'm not sure about yet but should have them laid out soon.

Also if I do leave is the $10 I paid in going to be a problem. It's not a big deal but if its not too much trouble the new guy can either paypal me or I wouldn't mind staking the new guy letting him play for half price as long as we also split any prizes won. Although I have a feeling this is a rebuilding year with McGahee, Benson, Patrick Willis and Vince Young as keepers.

[Senk]

Count me in for the Falcons again. I'm glad to see the league has regained some stability.
I'm still strongly against the trading of future draft picks.
I'm indifferent on the issue of roster limits.

Regarding the waiver system, are we going to get to vote on the type of waiver system that gets implemented? I think that a blind bidding waiver system is by far the fairest and best way to go.
I'm indifferent on the issue of roster limits.

I also think there should be injured reserve spots available for players that go on the NFL IR.
The spots would be for potential keepers who are out for the year. For example, the teams that have Ronnie Brown on their rosters were doubly penalized when he was hurt last year. Not only did they lose on of the top fantasy RBs in the league, they also were effectively down a roster spot on every other team as the could not drop Brown without losing his valuable 'franchise player' status. It makes sense to have IR spots available for such situations.

[Titanhorns]

Can't wait to draft!!!

[ewto16]

IR spots for actual guys on the NFL IR would be good.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Yeah we use to have IR spots but people were putting guys that were probable on there to make room for another player on the roster. IR for actual IR players is a great idea. I think if the player is doubtful or OUT as well would be valid IR use. But questionable or probable shouldnt be allowed. Penalties for that should be handed out.

[ToightLikeATiger]

What kind of timeframe am I looking at to decide if I want to come back or not. I don't want to hold things up for you guys- the big thing for me is the slow draft and my summer plans- which I'm not sure about yet but should have them laid out soon.

Also if I do leave is the $10 I paid in going to be a problem. It's not a big deal but if its not too much trouble the new guy can either paypal me or I wouldn't mind staking the new guy letting him play for half price as long as we also split any prizes won. Although I have a feeling this is a rebuilding year with McGahee, Benson, Patrick Willis and Vince Young as keepers.

I hope it works out so you can stay. Even if you have to pre-draft some its better then losing you. Plus rebuilding isnt so bad if you do it right. We have had some owners here who have amazing young keepers now from rebuilding.

Also I am interested in hearing what the estimated timeframes are on things. Draft, New Owners, Trading, ect... Nothing has to be set in stone of course but just a general idea of what we are looking at.

[ewto16]

Yeah we use to have IR spots but people were putting guys that were probable on there to make room for another player on the roster. IR for actual IR players is a great idea. I think if the player is doubtful or OUT as well would be valid IR use. But questionable or probable shouldnt be allowed. Penalties for that should be handed out.

Nope, IR should be IR. You can still weasel away on your roster if you use the IR spot for doubtful or out. The IR spot should be used just like the example given.

Ronnie Brown, Caddy, etc. gets hurt and goes on IR. You can stash him on your IR, so you could keep him the following season if you wanted to and you aren't stuck with a roster spot. A guy on IR can't come off IR until the next season, or if they are on IR to start the season, they have to come off by Week 6 to play that season.

We try to follow the NFL (to a degree) and this would closely model what they do.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Im all for that.... I was just pointing out that sometimes you get a guy that is listed as OUT for like 3 weeks. That would have been acceptable the way we use to use IR. But people were using IR for probable guys just to make space which was wrong. There were no penalties for that and Chugga had to go around trying to fix things. Thats why IR was taken away to begin with. Im all for bringing it back and have it used the correct way.

[alex99]

Nope, IR should be IR. You can still weasel away on your roster if you use the IR spot for doubtful or out. The IR spot should be used just like the example given.

Ronnie Brown, Caddy, etc. gets hurt and goes on IR. You can stash him on your IR, so you could keep him the following season if you wanted to and you aren't stuck with a roster spot. A guy on IR can't come off IR until the next season, or if they are on IR to start the season, they have to come off by Week 6 to play that season.

We try to follow the NFL (to a degree) and this would closely model what they do.
First of all we don't have a 53 man roster. Teams won't put a player on the IR if there's a slight chance of him playing the last game of the season. I don't know how many times last year I started a player who was probable and didn't play.
We don't need the taxi squad ... that's for sure. I would rather have a IR but like toight said people abused it. Maybe the only way to prevent all of these problems is to lower the roster limits ... this way there would be decent players to pick up for the teams with injuries problems and poor drafting skills.:D.

[ewto16]

my thought was to work on IR, not the overall issue with roster problems. If we use an IR, it should be strictly for guys on IR in the NFL. A way to still keep that guy like Brown, Caddy, Deuce that might go down for the season, but you don't want to let go to fill a spot.

Certainly, something still needs to be done to ensure that there is someone that might actually get a carry available in the FA pool when that happens.

[ToightLikeATiger]

First of all we don't have a 53 man roster. Teams won't put a player on the IR if there's a slight chance of him playing the last game of the season. I don't know how many times last year I started a player who was probable and didn't play.
We don't need the taxi squad ... that's for sure. I would rather have a IR but like toight said people abused it. Maybe the only way to prevent all of these problems is to lower the roster limits ... this way there would be decent players to pick up for the teams with injuries problems and poor drafting skills.:D.

I dont think roster limits should be lowered. The position cap will take care of the stacking and allow better players to be on waivers. Also the waiver system will make it fair for everyone to get those players.

I think we should keep the taxi the way it is but add that IR spot. If the abuse of it could be prevented then it would be a lot better. A penalty for sticking a player that plays on IR should be accessed or something like that. I really dont know how it could work and Im too tired to come up with an ideas on how to regulate it right now lol. Maybe just have the 3 commish monitor it.

[alex99]

I dont think roster limits should be lowered. The position cap will take care of the stacking and allow better players to be on waivers. Also the waiver system will make it fair for everyone to get those players.


You can't have it both ways ... adding more (TS and IR) is just plain stupid. If teams were stacking before that means you had too many roster spots to begin with. :rolleyes:You also want to implement a position cap and add roster spots too ... that gives the person with alots of picks an advantage besides the only position cap if any should be the QB position.

Looks like there's going to be alot of disagreement for rules changes ... that's why we should ONLY have ONE a season ... PLUS the rule change has to make sense.

[alex99]

something still needs to be done to ensure that there is someone that might actually get a carry available in the FA pool when that happens.
Lower roster spots ... get rid of the 2 TS spots. Last year I carried a RB all season who was on IR from day 1 and two others who were injuried during the season and still managed to play a decent RB ... what does that tell you.

[ToightLikeATiger]

You can't have it both ways ... adding more (TS and IR) is just plain stupid. If teams were stacking before that means you had too many roster spots to begin with. :rolleyes:You also want to implement a position cap and add roster spots too ... that gives the person with alots of picks an advantage besides the only position cap if any should be the QB position.

Looks like there's going to be alot of disagreement for rules changes ... that's why we should ONLY have ONE a season ... PLUS the rule change has to make sense.

Im not saying add any more roster spots. Im saying take away a taxi squad spot and add an IR instead. That way you can have 1 taxi guy AND have a spot for an injured player. If you end up having 2 guys put on IR then youll have to decide which to stick on IR and live with the other injury. I dont think we should completely take away Taxi. Just take 1 away and add IR. Never said have 2 taxi and 2 IR lol.

[alex99]

I think we should do away with the taxi squad altogether. How many times last year did managers dropped a player by mistake trying to put them on the TS.
Drop the 2 TS spots and add 2 IRs spots or 1 roster spot and 1 IR spot ... make it simple.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I think we should do away with the taxi squad altogether. How many times last year did managers dropped a player by mistake trying to put them on the TS.
Drop the 2 TS spots and add 2 IRs spots or 1 roster spot and 1 IR spot ... make it simple.

Well Id be all for killing TS all together if you add 1 roster spot and 1 IR spot. I just dont wanna lose that extra roster spot to add 2 IR's. Im fine with cutting it down 1 but 2 is too much. Especially if you want people to field full teams on bye weeks.

[alex99]

When do we have to announce of keepers?

[Titanhorns]

We'll be looking at a late June deadline for naming keepers, so nothing to fret about today.



Not sure of the exact date, but it's not too soon.

[HollandX]

We'll still waiting to get all the owners back and for everyone to vote in the polls. I'll send another league wide email this weekend.

Will you know in the next week or two stevetreve? :(

[alex99]

Anyone else think our commish should change his avatar ... you look like a p.u.s.s.y.:D

[cochese75]

p.u.s.s. in a box




:spawnorb:

[domejohnny]

p.u.s.s. in a box



Is that dolphin crooked? :D:D:D

[ToightLikeATiger]

We need to get all teams with an owner so we can open up trading!!! :)

[cochese75]

Is that dolphin crooked? :D:D:D

shut up :mad:




:spawnorb:

[ToightLikeATiger]

way too quiet bump!

[Titanhorns]

Does anyone have Benson as a keeper/franchised rookie?

[Grif]

Does anyone have Benson as a keeper/franchised rookie?

Baltimore Ravens (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/options?L=25895&F=0005&O=01) -
Alexander, Shaun FA RB (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/player?L=25895&P=5668)
Benson, Cedric CHI RB (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/player?L=25895&P=7816)
Morris, Maurice SEA RB (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/player?L=25895&P=6562)


Poor guy;)

[ToightLikeATiger]

Baltimore Ravens (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/options?L=25895&F=0005&O=01) -
Alexander, Shaun FA RB (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/player?L=25895&P=5668)
Benson, Cedric CHI RB (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/player?L=25895&P=7816)
Morris, Maurice SEA RB (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/player?L=25895&P=6562)


Poor guy;)

Thats why he wants to switch teams lol.

[Titanhorns]

Baltimore Ravens (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/options?L=25895&F=0005&O=01) -
Alexander, Shaun FA RB (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/player?L=25895&P=5668)
Benson, Cedric CHI RB (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/player?L=25895&P=7816)
Morris, Maurice SEA RB (http://football36.myfantasyleague.com/2008/player?L=25895&P=6562)


Poor guy;)

Ouch

[ralph427]

If it isn't a big hassle, I would like to resign as coach of the Baltimore Ravens :o

[ralph427]

Thats why he wants to switch teams lol.

Not at all, I could deal with that. Just lost interest in the league. Too much of a time commitment and not worth it to have a sucky team.

[ewto16]

Not at all, I could deal with that. Just lost interest in the league. Too much of a time commitment and not worth it to have a sucky team.

You should fire your GM. Oh wait.... ;):p

[Good Ol' # 54]

Interested in joining if there's an open slot. I'm Manager of the Seahawks in the MFL and have played in numerous FF leagues here. I don't tank and I don't quit.

[alex99]

You should fire your GM. Oh wait.... ;):p
Why?
He's got a top QB and a top WR rookie keeper with the #4 pick and the biggest bonus NO missing picks... he will get a top RB with that #4 pick ... looks like a decent team to me.

[stevetreve]

We'll still waiting to get all the owners back and for everyone to vote in the polls. I'll send another league wide email this weekend.

Will you know in the next week or two stevetreve? :(

I still haven't gotten an answer to my last post. If I can either get someone to shoot me a paypal or if the new owner of the Panthers doesn't mind playing for half price as long as we split any prize money also- I'd like out of the league.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I still haven't gotten an answer to my last post. If I can either get someone to shoot me a paypal or if the new owner of the Panthers doesn't mind playing for half price as long as we split any prize money also- I'd like out of the league.

Not trying to start anything but I dont recall there being refunds if you decide to drop out the next year. The extra $10 is to hold your spot and allow you to make your roster moves. I could be wrong but I dont think past guys got refunds and I dont think the few other guys that were going to quit but came back were going to ask or get one as well.

The idea is that if you bail that $10 goes to the next owner we try and recruit and give an incentive to take that team over. Usually when a player leaves they dont leave a great team on the table. From the looks of the 2 teams leaving (Panthers and Ravens) thats the case. Ralther had to take over a horrendous Cardinals team and rebuild it. I think he only had to pay half of the fee that year because of it.

Once again I could be 100% wrong (wouldnt be first time) but thats how I thought it was explained a few years back. The working out a deal with a new owner would be something you could do if they agreed on it but I dont think they would have to.

[ewto16]

Why?
He's got a top QB and a top WR rookie keeper with the #4 pick and the biggest bonus NO missing picks... he will get a top RB with that #4 pick ... looks like a decent team to me.

I was kidding. He said his team sucked so it wasn't fun.

[ewto16]

Not trying to start anything but I dont recall there being refunds if you decide to drop out the next year. The extra $10 is to hold your spot and allow you to make your roster moves. I could be wrong but I dont think past guys got refunds and I dont think the few other guys that were going to quit but came back were going to ask or get one as well.

The idea is that if you bail that $10 goes to the next owner we try and recruit and give an incentive to take that team over. Usually when a player leaves they dont leave a great team on the table. From the looks of the 2 teams leaving (Panthers and Ravens) thats the case. Ralther had to take over a horrendous Cardinals team and rebuild it. I think he only had to pay half of the fee that year because of it.

Once again I could be 100% wrong (wouldnt be first time) but thats how I thought it was explained a few years back. The working out a deal with a new owner would be something you could do if they agreed on it but I dont think they would have to.

I'm pretty sure you are right. The $10 goes towards the next owners fees, so they have some incentive to join.

[domejohnny]

I'm pretty sure you are right. The $10 goes towards the next owners fees, so they have some incentive to join.

Pretty sure that is correct.

[HollandX]

I still haven't gotten an answer to my last post. If I can either get someone to shoot me a paypal or if the new owner of the Panthers doesn't mind playing for half price as long as we split any prize money also- I'd like out of the league.

Sorry to see you go, stevetreve.

I believe that everyone has already "lost" their $10 for this year. I have not heard of any refunds being given out. It's part of the tanking-prevention laws. And honestly, I don't even have any of the money to give out. If nobody else has gotten a refund for leaving, that's the rule then. I don't want to start a precedent, where all previous owners start banging down Chugga's door for money.

[HollandX]

Ralph427 is no longer in this league, and the Ravens are up for the taking.

[Chugga]

That is indeed correct. If you want to leave the league you are to give a 1 year warning. That way I can lock down your future roster trades and make sure you are making moves that don't hinder what the manager coming in is going to have to take care of. If you want to quit the league you simply say "I won't be returning next year" and then send $10 instead of the normal $20. Like I said nothing big happens although your trades are monitered a little closer and your future draft pick trades are turned off.

If you just up and leave than I wasn't able to take those precautions and because of that you lose your $10 deposit and it immediately goes to the next manager that is going to take over your team because we have no idea what state you left your team in and what that new manager is going to have to take over for.

[alex99]

I'm pretty sure you are right. The $10 goes towards the next owners fees, so they have some incentive to join.
That's right ... now can I buy the team for $10.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I will buy in on the Ravens...I think with owning 2 teams I could break .500 this year!!! :) lol.

NotoriousVC gets my vote for 1 of the empty spots though. He has wanted in for a long time.

[stevetreve]

Ok my bad, I thought the rule was in place for teams like the Cardinals where they traded away their future draft picks and left the team bare and then went MIA. I won my division with this team last year, made the NFC championship game the year before that with the same keepers and all my draft picks are intact. I don't think you'd have any trouble finding a replacement but whatever rules is rules.

I guess if my choices are flushing money down the toilet or playing another season I'll choose playing another season. This league is alot of fun but the fact that I'm going to be in a rented vacation house without internet access for the duration of the draft could be interesting but I'll try to find a way, maybe I'll find a neighbor to hook me up, internet cafe or something.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Youll have some predrafting to do steve :)....I do remember some people without internet access calling someone to relay their picks to Chugga. That may be something you could look into.

[stevetreve]

Youll have some predrafting to do steve :)....I do remember some people without internet access calling someone to relay their picks to Chugga. That may be something you could look into.

Once we got the house I thought about predrafting for all 24 rounds before the draft started but I didn't think that would work out and with my luck I'd likely have a roster of 7 kickers or something stupid like that as a result;) I figured it would just be easier to step out but I guess its too late for that without having to pay someone $10 to have my team.

As you so graciously pointed out my keepers aren't exactly "A" list players but I've made the playoffs the last 2 years with them and came within a few points of the SB the one year. All the points I have to spot teams with top tier RB's I can easily make up in the draft at other positions which I do every year so thats not the problem. The problem is- without internet access in the house and a slow draft that takes weeks that takes out my competitive advantage and also alot of the fun of this league if I have to miss the bulk of it. I'll try to make it work though- ps who's the commish you pay this year any way? and could they PM me their details.

[ralph427]

I was kidding. He said his team sucked so it wasn't fun.


That isn't what I said. This league is too much of a time commitment and you need to stay on top of everything with so many owners. I just can't dedicate so much time to the league anymore.

[ralph427]

Ralph427 is no longer in this league, and the Ravens are up for the taking.

If you cannot fill the spot as I told you in PM I will continue in the league.

[todderfield]

still interested here.... :D

[ewto16]

Not at all, I could deal with that. Just lost interest in the league. Too much of a time commitment and not worth it to have a sucky team.

Sorry, I interpruted this as you saying your team sucked.

[alex99]

Once we got the house I thought about predrafting for all 24 rounds before the draft started but I didn't think that would work out and with my luck I'd likely have a roster of 7 kickers or something stupid like that as a result;) I figured it would just be easier to step out but I guess its too late for that without having to pay someone $10 to have my team.

As you so graciously pointed out my keepers aren't exactly "A" list players but I've made the playoffs the last 2 years with them and came within a few points of the SB the one year. All the points I have to spot teams with top tier RB's I can easily make up in the draft at other positions which I do every year so thats not the problem. The problem is- without internet access in the house and a slow draft that takes weeks that takes out my competitive advantage and also alot of the fun of this league if I have to miss the bulk of it. I'll try to make it work though- ps who's the commish you pay this year any way? and could they PM me their details.
Since I'm in the AFC ... I can help you draft if you have no internet access.

[ralph427]

Sorry, I interpruted this as you saying your team sucked.

Nope, it clearly states that if I can't make the time to draft well and make some moves my team will suck. I didn't say it sucks now and of course that determination is subject to interpretation at the present time.

[ToightLikeATiger]

any timeline news?

[stevetreve]

Since I'm in the AFC ... I can help you draft if you have no internet access.

thanks for the offer.. could work.. what are you thinking should I just give you my password and have you do the draft for me? Obviously since your in the AFC you'd be checking the league site pretty much daily anyway.

[alex99]

thanks for the offer.. could work.. what are you thinking should I just give you my password and have you do the draft for me? Obviously since your in the AFC you'd be checking the league site pretty much daily anyway.
Yes ... just change your password before you hand over your team for the draft and give me a list of the top 5 players you want at each position ... then after the draft you can change your password back to the original one.

[NBA23Jordan]

Up from the depths of page 7.

[ToightLikeATiger]

when are we gonna get things rolling here? im excited to start doing something now that the NBA is over!

[HollandX]

Holy cow, how long is Alex suspended for?!

[HollandX]

I'll send out a formal email this week with dates and such. :)

but we'll be looking at:

Late June- New owners named and start mailing payments
Mid July- Keepers named and payments due
Late July- Draft

[ewto16]

What did Alex get suspended for? He isn't the type to get suspended.

[cochese75]

not sure but i think its his 2nd time




:spawnorb:

[ToightLikeATiger]

wow Alex got benched! cant wait to hear why.

[shopson1]

Rams keepers:

Offense: Brian Westbrook RB, Eagles
Franchise Rookie: Reggie Bush RB, Saints
Franchise Rookie: Michael Bush RB, Raiders
Defense: Paul Posluszny LB, Bills

[Titanhorns]

page 6 bump


Saw Athlon's NFL guide has already hit the shelves. Anyone seen any others out there?

[Chugga]

I haven't even bothered looking yet. I usually don't even buy my guide until a week or so before my big money draft (and hell half the time that draft happens in september). Last year I bought it a little early though just to get a look at keepers, etc.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I havent looked into buying a guide yet either. Will probably next month or so. Usually a week before this league starts. Then I make my draft board for all my leagues. This usually drafts first so I use the SFL as a timetable to buy the mag.

[meatgoat]

I don't use guides. My addiction to the NFL Network is the only guide I need. :D

[domejohnny]

Guides, huh? I just guess...and it shows :)

[shopson1]

If you have played long enough and at least keep up on player movement from team to team, guides don't provide much unless you don't trust your own opinions. The only real value would be stat projections, but those are highly subjective as well.

[ToightLikeATiger]

I dont make my picks based on what guides say. I just like seeing how the guides draft board stacks up against mine. Maybe if something is way off Ill reconsider and think about it more but for the most part I stick with MY board.

Still the guides are a fun read while your taking a dump :)

[raltherr]

I use the same guide every year. I don't agree with everything they say, but it's been fairly accurate. No, I won't tell you which one! :p

[ToightLikeATiger]

I use the same guide every year. I don't agree with everything they say, but it's been fairly accurate. No, I won't tell you which one! :p

So thats how you rebuilt that pathetic team called the Cardinals. I knew it couldnt have been your smarts :p:D

[domejohnny]

I use the same guide every year. I don't agree with everything they say, but it's been fairly accurate. No, I won't tell you which one! :p

Do you buy a new one each year or still using the same old guide from 1983 each year? :D

[CJF28]

Do you buy a new one each year or still using the same old guide from 1983 each year? :D

lol, I was thinking the same thing

"According to my mag, Im supposed to take Barry Foster with the first pick. Ahh screw it. With the first pick the Rallthers take Rae Carruth. Hes fast. Like he's shot out of a gun or something"