Prince Fielder is a punk

[Hardcore Legend]

There, I said it. The constant chest thumping, the shirt untucking immediately after games, etc was pretty bad but today he freaking jacked his very talented, young starting pitcher Manny Parra in the face while in the dugout during the Reds/Brewers game.

Ned Yost has ZERO control over that team.

[brewer fan]

First off the shirt untucking isn't Prince's doing. It is actually done for Cory Harts father to signify the day of work is over.

He is an emotional player and you have no clue as to what the fight was about or what was said....

Care to come up with some more unfounded conclusions?

[SeattleMariners51445]

First off the shirt untucking isn't Prince's doing. It is actually done for Cory Harts father to signify the day of work is over.

He is an emotional player and you have no clue as to what the fight was about or what was said....

Care to come up with some more unfounded conclusions?

Are you Cecil Fielder?

[Hardcore Legend]

Are you Cecil Fielder?

No, even Cecil doesn't think much of Prince.

[Hardcore Legend]

First off the shirt untucking isn't Prince's doing. It is actually done for Cory Harts father to signify the day of work is over.


So, if the Cubs after the game brought out all their bats and did the 'Happy Dance' around the infield in honor of Alfonso Soriano's great-uncle who once traded horses through the entire Carribean Island chain and was a legend for doing so....it'd still be bush league.

[brewer fan]

So, if the Cubs after the game brought out all their bats and did the 'Happy Dance' around the infield in honor of Alfonso Soriano's great-uncle who once traded horses through the entire Carribean Island chain and was a legend for doing so....it'd still be bush league.

Bush league? How is celebrating a win bush league?

[Hardcore Legend]

Yay, let's ignore the fact that he jacked his pitcher in the face and focus on this aspect!

[brewer fan]

Once again you have no clue as to what was said to cause the blow-up.

[SeattleMariners51445]

Once again you have no clue as to what was said to cause the blow-up.
I'm guessing Parra said something along the lines of "Stop pumping your chest like King Kong and sit your *** back on the bench tubby!"

[Hardcore Legend]

Parra said something about him not getting to a groundball that ended up leading to a big inning. Parra then slammed his jacket into the bench and went to sit down and Fielder rammed him into the bench, then jacked him in the face. The rest of the team jumped in and told him to stop.

[Sbells]

Haven't seen the replay yet, but gotta say I agree. I actually like most of the Brewers, I'm not a fan of Prince and never have been.

Shirt untuck thing doesn't really bother me, the whole team (or most) does it. His attitude sucks as far as I'm concerned.

For what it's worth, I didn't hear many Brewer fans defending Zambrano/Barrett... I think you have to expect some backlash.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

What the hell is wrong with this guy?

[ihatephilly]

i just watched that on ESPNews. It looked like Parra said the F word and slammed his jacket on the bench, and Fielder started pushing him. Who knows what was said but still, show some composure.

[RAIDEN6]

He's a punk because he untucks his shirt at the end of a game? OH NO!
............

[shopson1]

No, he's a punk for smacking his teammate after some heated criticism. At some point, you need to progress beyond the child stage.

[BurningSoul]

No, he's a punk for smacking his teammate after some heated criticism. At some point, you need to progress beyond the child stage.

Thats just Prince being Prince....

[Msteg45]

Well there's one thing we can all agree on...Prince Fielder is overrated.

[mrmet6986]

hey at least this isn't NFL training camp where guys beat the **** out of each other.

at least MLB players seem to get their composure back quicker. yeah there are bench clearing brawls but that usually after a pitcher drills a guy with 95mph+ worth of heat.

when somebody bludgens another player over the head with a bat mercelously over and over again then we can make a huge deal of it.

[cflames89]

Not like it's the first time teammates threw down on each other.........

[Y Ted Ginn Y?]

These guys are together 8 to 10 months a year, they are bound to get in a few fights. Imagine having to wspend everyday for 8 months with the people you work with. Theres about three I'd end up poppin in the mouth eventually.

[mac21]

Thats just Prince being Prince....

HaHa

[Hateohiostate]

Anyone want to buy a nrm/mnt fielder for C+S? :)

[imaginegrafix]

HL likes to take every shot he can to rip an NL central club not named the Cardinals - even if it means making stuff up (see brewers thread) - as brewer fan said, the shirt untuck thing is in homage to Hart's dad. It's not really a big deal.

As for Prince, he's got some anger issues..... not sure if he is having problems away from baseball or what the deal is but it's shown a lot lately on the field - slamming bats into the ground and breaking them after pop outs, getting tossed from the game the other day........ Hopefully he can get it all worked out. Doesn't matter what Parra said, he was way out of line to go after him like that.

[Hardcore Legend]

HL likes to take every shot he can to rip an NL central club not named the Cardinals - even if it means making stuff up (see brewers thread)
Go check it. I didn't make anything up.

- as brewer fan said, the shirt untuck thing is in homage to Hart's dad. It's not really a big deal.
It may not really be a big deal to the Brewers fans but it's gotten a lot of play at the very least in St. Louis. Post-Dispatch and KTRS ripped the Brewers for doing it. It rubs people the wrong way.

[imaginegrafix]

Mark A selling his house to be able to afford the payroll this year - that's about as made up as it comes.

I could care less what St. Louis radio is talking about - It probably got a lot of play after the sweep because they were searching up and down to rip the brewers for anything they could. Had the cards swept the brewers it would have got zero play even though they do it after every win.

[Hardcore Legend]

Had the cards swept the brewers it would have got zero play even though they do it after every win.

The jerseys remain tucked in when they lose, so yeah...it would have gotten zero play. Those jerseys stayed tucked in during the sweep at Wrigley Field North.

[Hardcore Legend]

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[Poochiesdead]

Untucking jerseys is what we get upset over nowadays? Really? Untucking jerseys?

[lwagner57]

Actually i was watching the game(i have fox sports Ohio) and when the incident occured it showed the two walking by one another and Parra said something and Fielder pushed him and then Parra went to sit down and Fielder came back and pushed him again when he was sitting down. Maybe i missed the punch to face but i don't remember seeing any punches just some pushing. Regardless its classless.

[CJF28]

No, he's a punk for smacking his teammate after some heated criticism. At some point, you need to progress beyond the child stage.

if this was Steve Smith, we would be saying he is "fiery" and plays for the moment.

[SweetZombieJesus]

Maybe I'm just missing something here...but what's wrong with him untucking his jersey? I know that's usually the first thing I do when I get off work too.

[GOSKINS_08]

what's wrong with him untucking his jersey? I know that's usually the first thing I do when I get off work too.

Show some class..Jeez.

[Hardcore Legend]

Maybe I'm just missing something here...but what's wrong with him untucking his jersey? I know that's usually the first thing I do when I get off work too.

Really? At your desk, 5:00 rolls around and you start taking your clothes off?

[dave4243]

This threads a joke, and I'm an unbiased Red Sox fan. The guy has some anger issues, yeah, but a punk, not from what i've seen. His pitcher came in and showed him up in the dugout cause he missed a groundball, and Prince got pretty heated. Should he have reacted like that, maybe not. But it happens. Now to the shirt untucking thing. Tell me you're kidding? This is baseball, not a 9-5 job so trying to compare those 2 things is so absurd. Ask any major league player if they're offended by the untucking of the shirt, highly unlikely they are. The guy is a passionate player, and cares about what he's doing, i like to see players like that. But apparently that makes him a punk. An

[jjks]

Haven't caught Sportscenter yet to see this, but did anyone catch his webgem yesterday when he hoisted himself in the air to snag a line drive and then flip it to second for a double play? Serious glovework by the big man.

[Hardcore Legend]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwG8XB2YOo

[SweetZombieJesus]

Really? At your desk, 5:00 rolls around and you start taking your clothes off?

I asked for clarification as to what was so wrong about that, but since you want to be a childish ass then that's fine. Your opinion obviously means absolutely nothing if you can't even respond to a rational question with a rational answer.

[Hardcore Legend]

I asked for clarification as to whether your untuck your shirt at work the moment your work day is done, but you wanted to be childish which is fine.

<Insert cliched internet rant about doing someone's mom and being internet tough guy>

You tried to compare untucking your shirt after work to doing it on the baseball field.

It's a respect thing. It shows a lack of respect to the opponent.

Fielder's always been a punk. Last year, he railroaded the Pirates catcher, stood up over top of him Muhammed Ali style and slammed his chest with the 'I'm the man' taunt. He's got personal issues. It's like watching Albert Belle deconstruct again.

[RAIDEN6]

I asked for clarification as to whether your untuck your shirt at work the moment your work day is done, but you wanted to be childish which is fine.

<Insert cliched internet rant about doing someone's mom and being internet tough guy>

You tried to compare untucking your shirt after work to doing it on the baseball field.

It's a respect thing. It shows a lack of respect to the opponent.

Fielder's always been a punk. Last year, he railroaded the Pirates catcher, stood up over top of him Muhammed Ali style and slammed his chest with the 'I'm the man' taunt. He's got personal issues. It's like watching Albert Belle deconstruct again.How in the world is it disrespectful to untuck your jersey after a game? When the clock hit 4:30 and I was done with work I immediately untucked my shirt as I walked out of the place. It is a sign of a done work day. It has nothing to do with respect.

That's like saying its disrespectful for going out and high fiving your team for winning a game.

Soccer players take off their jerseys at the end of the game, is that disrespectful? No.

[Natureboy72]

What a punk, remember in spring training when Prince was sleeping(passed out from drinking) at a red light. Now thats a punk move.

[Rick in Maryland]

I heard this morning on ESPN radio that Manny Parra was pulled for a pinch hitter. He then entered the dugout and tried to make his way to the clubhouse. Prince Fielder told him to stay and cheer on his teammates as they tried to rally. Parra refused and Prince took exception to this.

[lancer20]

Really? At your desk, 5:00 rolls around and you start taking your clothes off?

Wow, seriously...you equate that to taking off your clothes? haha, your reaching now. And I don't think Prince has an office job - big difference. I have seen players in many sports do this and have never once heard of it being an issue...never in my life. How about stop being brainwashed by that media you have there in St. Louis and actually think on your own - you can't seriously tell me that you find that disrespectful. Stop buying into the stupid media reports you hear...puppet.

As for Prince hitting his teammate, obviously not the most mature thing to do. But this is sports and it always happens. This is not a normal job, like at a contruction site or in an office. These guys are around eachother so much, play in such an emotional game. If you have ever played in serious sports, you know this happens. You can whine and call it classless (the most overused word on this forum) if you want, but bottom line is people aren't perfect and react poorly sometimes. Please don't pretend your better than them, cuz you aren't.

[jweber26]

It may not really be a big deal to the Brewers fans but it's gotten a lot of play at the very least in St. Louis. Post-Dispatch and KTRS ripped the Brewers for doing it. It rubs people the wrong way.

Wow, you guys need more to talk about in St. Louis apparently!

[Hardcore Legend]

Wow, seriously...you equate that to taking off your clothes? haha, your reaching now. And I don't think Prince has an office job - big difference.I have seen players in many sports do this and have never once heard of it being an issue...never in my life.
Yeah. Big difference. He is competing against an opponent. There is a certain amount of respect that is shown in baseball. This isn't the NBA where guys start taking their uniforms and shoes off to show off their latest tattoos or to disrespect the officials/their coach for taking them out of the game.


How about stop being brainwashed by that media you have there in St. Louis and actually think on your own - you can't seriously tell me that you find that disrespectful. Stop buying into the stupid media reports you hear...puppet.
Give me a break. What, did I pick on Cecil's little boy and it upset you? I think for myself.

As for Prince hitting his teammate, obviously not the most mature thing to do. But this is sports and it always happens. This is not a normal job, like at a contruction site or in an office. These guys are around each other so much, play in such an emotional game. If you have ever played in serious sports, you know this happens. You can whine and call it classless (the most overused word on this forum) if you want, but bottom line is people aren't perfect and react poorly sometimes.
This just falls in line with a pattern of behavior for Fielder. He's a very angry young man.

Please don't pretend your better than them, cuz you aren't.
Maybe I'm a punk too. Doesn't make Prince any less of one.

[Hardcore Legend]

The shirt untucking thing is a sign of respect to the player's fathers, not a sign of disrespect to the opposing teams.

It came during a series in which the Brewers players starred down some late inning home runs, so it came off as just as disrespectful. Like I said, no matter the reason behind it, it seems bush league. This is the same Brewers team that threw at Pujols twice in one game (McClung) because of a bean ball war last year that Yost started, something that ended up costing his team a playoff spot. This is the same team that had a dugout fight last year involving Estrada and Yost. JJ Hardy had to step in and took exception to Yost's behavior, and Hardy is one of the classiest guys in the sport.

Would it make everyone feel better if I deleted the shirt untucking part from the original post so the focus can be taken off of me and back on the real news story?

[Hardcore Legend]

Real news story that no one will even remember in 2 days because it's not a big deal to begin with.

Apparently, because according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Brewers fans can't even remember whose dad it is supposed to honor:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=777178
Mike Cameron got it going because he has done it for years as a tribute to his dad, who would come home from work and untuck his shirt and relax. Sort of a group way of saying the day is done and it went well.

[Goalkeeper]

Untucking jerseys is what we get upset over nowadays? Really? Untucking jerseys?

Not really.

I do get a bit annoyed by egoistical, overpaid, overweight, liabilities (in the field, anyway) whose only real value is swinging a piece of wood.

Fielder is a disgrace. Seriously. At least have enough self respect - or at LEAST enough respect for your team/sport - to show up with SOMEWHAT serviceable fielding skills whilst not looking like your best impression of an Orca whale, 'Free Willy' or 'Babe' the pig.

[brewer fan]

So they got the name wrong, big woop. It doesn't change the gist of it. Stop being a hater. You must still be stooling over that 4 game sweep over the Cards.


Yeah I was thinking about it last night and I knew I got the name wrong.


Totally correct on the second part. :D

[Goalkeeper]

And for what it's worth I am NOT a Brewers hater.

In fact, if the Cards can't pull off a wildcard berth I will be pulling for the Brewers. Period.

I like sheets and I like Sabathia. And while I think Yost is pretty much a terrible manager I think the Brewers have languished in the sewer long enough and would like to see their team/fans see some success?

The Cubs? Forget those fools. I hope they implode every year! ;) :)

I will, however, be pulling for a Fielder 0-50 slump during a lengthy World Series run...

[Hardcore Legend]

In fact, if the Cards can't pull off a wildcard berth I will be pulling for the Brewers.


Same here. I like C.C., Sheets, Hardy and Kendall. It's just so hard to respect that team at times because of guys like Hall, Braun, Fielder and Yost posing, acting like fools, etc. Maybe they'd be easier to like if they'd just do a pose off before the game to get it out of their system.

[sibelius]

I asked for clarification as to what was so wrong about that, but since you want to be a childish ass then that's fine. Your opinion obviously means absolutely nothing if you can't even respond to a rational question with a rational answer.

Yeah, I kinda thought this one was gonna get him suspended.

[Dont taze me bro]

Same here. I like C.C., Sheets, Hardy and Kendall. It's just so hard to respect that team at times because of guys like Hall, Braun, Fielder and Yost posing, acting like fools, etc. Maybe they'd be easier to like if they'd just do a pose off before the game to get it out of their system.
Does Albert get to participate? We can send Soriano.

[SmartassBoiler]

Same here. I like C.C., Sheets, Hardy and Kendall. It's just so hard to respect that team at times because of guys like Hall, Braun, Fielder and Yost posing, acting like fools, etc. Maybe they'd be easier to like if they'd just do a pose off before the game to get it out of their system.

What'd Braun do?

Fielder was out of line by physically attacking a teammate. I'm not a fan of his at all. He's a fat lug who jacks HRs and offers little defensive value. Yay.

[tbrock]

Okay, I can see how people are upset with Fielder shoving his teammate. That is completely uncalled for, regardless of what was said, and he should be suspended for it. But people are getting upset about the untucked jerseys? Seriously?

[imaginegrafix]

It came during a series in which the Brewers players starred down some late inning home runs, so it came off as just as disrespectful.

Doesn't Pujols stare at nearly every HR like it's an ocean sunset:confused:

This is the same Brewers team that threw at Pujols twice in one game (McClung) because of a bean ball war last year that Yost started, something that ended up costing his team a playoff spot.

I could of swore Prince was hit in that game as well - heck he was hit twice in the same game this last series.

[imaginegrafix]

What'd Braun do?

He hit a GW HR against the cards a few weeks ago......

[Hardcore Legend]

Does Albert get to participate? We can send Soriano.

It's all over if Aramis 'Bring Me My Cape, I am the King!' Ramirez shows up. :p

[Lord_Stanley_#89]

As a pitcher, when you are pulled from a game and leave runners on base, you sit on the bench until your team gets off the field. Parra was heading straight to the club house and Fielder took offense.

[Hardcore Legend]

Parra didn't leave runners on base.

[DHOPP]

As if your GD team is so perfect, 3 DUIs in one season....time to get off your high horse DB

[Goalkeeper]

And for the record, as if anyone cares in the first place, while I think the untucking of the shirts thing is kinda silly I do understand where they are coming from.

I mean, it's not like baseball players are out there digging ditches or roofing houses... or working 70 hour work weeks. They are (generally) millionaires who are paid a premium and treated like kings.

Again, I understand why they are doing what they are doing, but I sorta think it is lost in translation at some point when millionaires PLAY a GAME for 3 or so hours...

[darealdiggler]

Hey Hardcore Legend I would like to see you step up to him and call him a punk and will see how far he throws you.

[Hardcore Legend]

Hey Hardcore Legend I would like to see you step up to him and call him a punk and will see how far he throws you.

I'd be more afraid he'd try to eat me.

[RAIDEN6]

Just shut up already, untucking your shirt is not disrespectful to anyone.

End.

[Tarheelfan44]

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Its more of respect for the game thing. i agree its silly to a point, but its just as asinine as assuming what raiden is saying-i.e. it MAY bother some people, and thats ok.

I think it really just gives people who dont like the way he plays or respects the game, myself included, something to complain about

[Team Rocket]

And for the record, as if anyone cares in the first place, while I think the untucking of the shirts thing is kinda silly I do understand where they are coming from.

I mean, it's not like baseball players are out there digging ditches or roofing houses... or working 70 hour work weeks. They are (generally) millionaires who are paid a premium and treated like kings.

Again, I understand why they are doing what they are doing, but I sorta think it is lost in translation at some point when millionaires PLAY a GAME for 3 or so hours...

The GAME they are playing is their JOB. Their job requires more skill than almost any other job, and they are paid accordingly. And they have to travel, half the year, for their job. Away from their wives, away from their kids. Also, this 3 hours a day nonsense is crap. You might not view batting practice or team meetings as work, but they are. You're not working during a planning meeting at your office? I'm sure most would say they are.

[urlacher54vasher31]

Fielder was pissed because Parra wanted to go into the clubhouse and Fielder thought he should stay in the dugout