Spawn S35 Cancelled????

[Dephisto]

Has this been announced. They are no longer on the release dates nor are they in the online toy catalog.

Wow. There really is nothing here for me anymore. I have been collecting Spawn since S1 now instead of action figure lines, we are expected to buy one static statue. Not my thing. Oh well, guess its been a good run. I

[Meatwad]

all in house lines have been cut..

[aelam]

Oh no! Seriously? This makes me cry :(

[Dephisto]

when are they changing the name of this website to Halotoys.com or Activisiontoys.com - just sad. I guess DC direct will get a few figure dollars from this year. I have not bought McFarlane product since May and there is nothing appealing on the horizon. I really liked the in house stuff. Oh well - money saved! I have been really just thinking of clearing this room out anyway...

[DooM monkey]

Wow, they leave Spawn on a crappy line like that, hope we get another series again in future. If not atleast allow a company to make Spawn figures DCUC style and sell it through the Spawn store.

[J Dogg]

Bad economy-no extra cash+50 summer movies hasbro has the rights too=no room for McFarlane inhouse lines.

Really, would have you bought some of these future inhouse lines. The only one I am interested in was the one that everyone had pictures of at Comicon.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

it was series 420, btw

[SoulRedeemer]

Is Spawn Robots really cancelled? Was there a link to the news or anything?

[skubasteve]

S35 is just Robosapien Reborn and I would not be surprised if it gets the axe.

I think S36 is a breath of fresh air compared to the crap being shoveled on us by TMP right now. Now, if they cancel S36 we'll be passing the torch to the Halo fanboys.

[MangaSpawn64]

Mecha Spawn really should've been Manga Spawn 2.

There was one or 2 more that I'd have bought. Semi-dissapointed.

[Manga_Spawn]

It is not cancelled it is on hold. They are reworking the line. I talked to Joe about this at comic con as I expressed my shock to there being no protos of the line at comic con. I am still looking forward to seeing this line as it is the closest thing to a real manga spawn 2 as I will get since the actual manga spawn 2 sucked royal balls. I think the line is still coming just not a soon as originally planned. Of course something could have changed.

Joe said they want this to be the line that gets spawn back into stores like walmart and target who stopped carring spawn becuase he is from hell and a demon which is just not pg enough for them.

[Felty]

No spawn no money from me to McFarlane. First NFL sportpicks go to crap and now this.. I also have been buying Spawn since series 1. My first loves have always been Spawn and Star Wars. I guess my money will go to Star Wars and Indiana Jones (as long as it last)

[Battlefield]

Looks like Halo has taken over spawn toys.

[BiBLE]

It's best that they rework the line. It was very redundant and I honestly found justification in getting one figure at the most.

[Lord_kimboat]

If they cancel Spawn altogether I'm gonna be pissed. If they just canceled series 35....BFD. It was a stupid looking line anyway.

[rxsheepxr]

Just waiting for 36, I'm excited for them. 35 wasn't on my radar at all.

But yeah, despite the fact that it's not my company, and they can do whatever they want, I still wish they were making original toys again. I'm really sick of licensed stuff. At least I'm not wasting my money on it, I suppose. Silver lining.

[VenomProject]

Only thing I was wanting from S35 was "Crusher". Bring on S36!

[classic]

i really hope series 35 is cancelled, its the worst concept ever and would have been the worst line of spawn by far. just look at how good the previous robot line sold. heck stores and guys online were blowing them below half off and they still didnt sell. just bring us series 36 and call it series 35 i say

[Robocop2]

Where's all the robot love?

[rxsheepxr]

Not here, apparently.

[Gavrilo Princip]

i really hope series 35 is cancelled, its the worst concept ever and would have been the worst line of spawn by far. just look at how good the previous robot line sold. heck stores and guys online were blowing them below half off and they still didnt sell. just bring us series 36 and call it series 35 i say


you said it for me

--Gav

[Peter Hoffman]

Joe said they want this to be the line that gets spawn back into stores like walmart and target who stopped carring spawn becuase he is from hell and a demon which is just not pg enough for them.


If that's true, that's just STUPID. The whole appeal of Spawn is that it's something that WOULDN"T be sold in Wal-Mart. Sure, maybe they'll pick up a PG S35, but then they'll just drop it again when lines like S36 start coming out.

If Todd wants Wal-Mart to carry Spawn, the line is dead, at least as we know it.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

and the whole appeal to Todd is that it gives the line a big buyer and it will help him regain a lot of lost market penetration. not to mention, we've got no idea really where this whole revamp of Spawn is going in regards to the direction that the new creative team will take it

[thespawnx]

i hope so... save some plastic to protect this world!

[homunculus]

Just waiting for 36, I'm excited for them. 35 wasn't on my radar at all.

But yeah, despite the fact that it's not my company, and they can do whatever they want, I still wish they were making original toys again. I'm really sick of licensed stuff. At least I'm not wasting my money on it, I suppose. Silver lining.
Agreed on all points.

The only reason I would care if s35 was cancelled (IF), is if it meant the cancellation of 36 (which looks super badass) and larger implications for the company. After all, once a flagship line like that gets cancelled, even if it's just one series...well, innat a bad sign?

[aroundthefur33]

wow

[J Dogg]

No, not a bad sign. Just fiscally responsable. Keep throwing the liscensed items out there and try to see if the big boxes bite on one of his original lines(where he could make more dividends). When is the last time Mattel or Hasbro had an original toy out there?

The robots just don't have enough interest from any retailer. A lot of us have been talking bad about them or saying that they would buy one. He is in a way giving us what we want.

[Chewlee]

No one on the board wanted robots, todd listened, but he didnt listen about BLADEHUNTERS! stupid todd.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I wanted the robots

[Chewlee]

I wanted the robots

ok one ;):rolleyes:

[Felty]

I never could understand walmart anyway. You can pick up movies like showgirls.. But they have edited CD's. They don't care Spawn because of hell?? It scares me to think what they will do to my beloved Spawn to get walmart to carry him

[BiBLE]

I never could understand walmart anyway. You can pick up movies like showgirls.. But they have edited CD's. They don't care Spawn because of hell?? It scares me to think what they will do to my beloved Spawn to get walmart to carry him
It's called "Adventures of Spawn."

[J Dogg]

Actually some of the Walmart stores are now testing the "no sesorship" CDs. Can't blame them. They want to turn the merchandise for a profit. Some of the spawn lines have been duds. But everyone know bats, spidey, star wars, lego, turtles, etc. Spawn still is not a household name, even after all these years. For instance, I saw a guy in a store the other day with a Spawn shirt on and I said, hey nice spawn shirt. He said really, didn't know what this is, my girlfriends shirt.

Moral of the story, him=dumb@$$ his girfriend=cool.

[Masked Moron]

If they cancel Spawn altogether I'm gonna be pissed. If they just canceled series 35....BFD. It was a stupid looking line anyway.

agreed.

Where's all the robot love?

But they weren't robots... they were craptastic happymeal toys.

[Cursedknight]

Shoulda found his girlfriend and hit on her for taste alone......even if she was butt ugly! :D

I like robots.....but that line needed some serious help

[MaggotSpAwN]

I don't care about series 35, but man I need Series 36 it looks awesome, I'm planning to buy every figure except for Course of the Spawn

[happynoodle]

i agree with masked moron. i love the past robots todd did but was extremely dissapionted when i seen series 35

[aelam]

Wow, people sure are vindictive and hateful.

Just because you hated something doesn't mean it's a universal feeling. Seriously. The line doesn't force you to buy it. You don't like them? Jog on and wait till the next one.

Imagine how you would feel if something you were looking forward to suddenly got the axe. Yeesh.

[Masked Moron]

Imagine how you would feel if something you were looking forward to suddenly got the axe. Yeesh.

Blade hunters S2, zodiac S2... we've been there, but it doesn't mean we have to like the happymeal toys. ;)

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

For it to be a happy meal toy, it would have to be given out in a happy meal. That point and the opinion that goes with it is about as tired and moot as the baseball hate.

[Monstrous Hierophant]

Does anybody have any pics of S35/36?

I couldn't find any in the toys section...

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Series 35 I may have. Let me see what I can dig up.

Series 36 was never put up but you can find the unpainted sculpts in the Spawn section of the SDCC coverage over at Figures.com

for right now, here's the tiny versions... if it works
http://www.spawntoys.com/images/2008_spawn_35.gif

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

http://flickr.com/photos/icondemned/2646595435/in/set-72157606038585011/

found some larger ones, I can't find the file where I saved the photos but I'll keep looking. Crusher and Striker were definately on my Must Buy List

[AsterisX18]

Just bring on 36

[Monstrous Hierophant]

http://flickr.com/photos/icondemned/2646595435/in/set-72157606038585011/

found some larger ones, I can't find the file where I saved the photos but I'll keep looking. Crusher and Striker were definately on my Must Buy List

Thanks man.

Those are funky.

[OCELOT]

I'm glad. They were terrible designs. And at first reading that Joe said they were being redesigned I thought, "Good. Darker, twisted, more Spawn-like." But reworking it to fit Wal-Mart just screams it's gonna get even worse.

Here's hoping we still get the GREAT S.36 as they are.

[Masked Moron]

But reworking it to fit Wal-Mart just screams it's gonna get even worse..

Take the skull paint off the one, and add spring loaded arms and plastic launching missles to them.... :rolleyes:

[SoulRedeemer]

So series 36 will become the new 35, eh?

[OCELOT]

So series 36 will become the new 35, eh?

That would be nice, but doesn't seem likely.

[tatoman2525]

I really didn't care much for series 35, but it sucks for those who were anticipating the series to be let down once again (if indeed the series was cancelled rather than placed on hold) If the series is being revamped, I think it's a good move. The series did not get very positive responses from the Spawn collectors. I just find it hilarious that Guitar Hero got worse responses and THAT line isn't being revamped:p

Personally, if all I have to look foward to for the next few years is nothing but Halo crap, TMP will lose quite a bit of my money:cool:. And God knows I spend a s**** load of money on collectables as a lot of you here do. Although they may be gaining a "newer" type of fan and collector through this Halo era, they will eventually start losing some others. I understand that business is business, and tides of change must take place to keep up with the industry and the competition. However, cutting down and away from what made this toy empire possible (Spawn), is quite sad to see. If the entire Spawn line gets cut eventually down the line, oh well, I'm sure many of you will find something else that may satisfy your collecting needs and habits. Will it be sad to see? Of course, TMP is my favorite player but isn't the only player in the ballpark

[Red Spawn]

If the entire Spawn line gets cut eventually down the line, oh well, I'm sure many of you will find something else that may satisfy your collecting needs and habits. Will it be sad to see? Of course, TMP is my favorite player but isn't the only player in the ballpark

Hmmm, I doubt I would start collecting other stuff, would probably gathered die-hard and get selected spawn figures sculpted and turned into kits...but I don't believe for a moment that the spawn line would kick the bucket, last resort should be to concentrate on its original fan base, likely middle age adults now with a larger budget (most anyway) and produced limited edition resin figures...oh ok, they are doing that now.

[big-e]

If they are really reworking the line, we probably will not see them on the shelves till somewhere around march or april 2009. Which explains why series 36 will not be out till fall of next year. We never got an explanation as to why series 36 won't be out till fall next year (as far as I know, please correct me if I am wrong) because they did not want to (publically) announce that Spawn 35 was being reworked.

[Masked Moron]

Personally, if all I have to look foward to for the next few years is nothing but Halo crap, TMP will lose quite a bit of my money:cool:. And God knows I spend a s**** load of money on collectables as a lot of you here do.

Agreed.


Although they may be gaining a "newer" type of fan and collector through this Halo era, they will eventually start losing some others.

Have you seen some of these "new" fans? They complain that they have to buy the figs to get points for the free stuff.... :rolleyes:

[Dephisto]

I really didn't care much for series 35, but it sucks for those who were anticipating the series to be let down once again (if indeed the series was cancelled rather than placed on hold) If the series is being revamped, I think it's a good move. The series did not get very positive responses from the Spawn collectors. I just find it hilarious that Guitar Hero got worse responses and THAT line isn't being revamped:p

Personally, if all I have to look foward to for the next few years is nothing but Halo crap, TMP will lose quite a bit of my money:cool:. And God knows I spend a s**** load of money on collectables as a lot of you here do. Although they may be gaining a "newer" type of fan and collector through this Halo era, they will eventually start losing some others. I understand that business is business, and tides of change must take place to keep up with the industry and the competition. However, cutting down and away from what made this toy empire possible (Spawn), is quite sad to see. If the entire Spawn line gets cut eventually down the line, oh well, I'm sure many of you will find something else that may satisfy your collecting needs and habits. Will it be sad to see? Of course, TMP is my favorite player but isn't the only player in the ballpark


Agreed. I wanted the robots however. I am not willing to sacrifice my line of four to six action figures for one static resin statue. I collect action figures and I am unfortunately hitting middle age. McFarlane produced the coolest stuff in the industry imo until second quarter 2008. Now I collect DC Directs World of Warcraft. I have never payed the game, I simply like cool fantasy figures. Because of the figures, however, I have read a couple of the novels. Not bad. I am not and will never be a gamer.

[Manga_Spawn]

HAHAHAHA. Really that’s the entire appeal of spawn? LOL if it wasn't for Target and Wal-Mart caring the figures way back in the day I probably wouldn't even have started collecting them. I am sure the same can be said for many people on here. I remember my disappointment when those stores stopped caring spawn right after the movie come out and they haven't since. It was the coolest thing ever to go to Target and see a section larger than the current star wars allotment for Spawn figures. Those were the days the figures actually had some value and collectability unlike today where many figure despite being harder to find are barely worth retail if you are lucky.

If Mcfarlane just stuck to little comic stores and places like Suncoast they would be in alot more trouble right now. That’s part of what killed Palisades and is causing other companies to struggle. What so many people on here fail to realize is that Mcfarlane is a company at the end of the day. Their goal is to make money and be successful. If they didn't try to get their products into stores that are going to be more reliable and stay in business they in turn will fail. Plus being in larger retailers means a better selection of figures and lower prices. I cannot stand seeing the $18 price tag at GameStop or Sam goody for a halo figure.

I liked the robots alot because like I said they look much more like Manga Spawn than the recent figure. I am happy that they decided to rethink the line some though because it could def be better but that’s not to say it was bad. I still look forward to this line coming out since I liked the off shoots of spawn just as much as the comic accurate stuff.

If that's true, that's just STUPID. The whole appeal of Spawn is that it's something that WOULDN"T be sold in Wal-Mart. Sure, maybe they'll pick up a PG S35, but then they'll just drop it again when lines like S36 start coming out.

If Todd wants Wal-Mart to carry Spawn, the line is dead, at least as we know it.

[bborst]

Hold up here a sec.

Some of you are talking like it's been announced that this line has been canceled or put on hold. Has this actually happened or is this just speculation still?

I, being one of the few boardies here who wants to see this line happen, would be very happy to here that it's being delayed so they can give this line the attention it deserves to have (ie: weapons or display bases, interchangeable parts maybe?).

But canceled? That would be very disappointing. For me.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

let's not forget that the last time McF made a major push to get back into Wal-Mart it was around Series 25 and WM did carry them and even got their own versions. They also changed their mind at almost the last minute on a two pack that ended up at KB toys and then dropped Spawn again for the most part by Series 27.

And TMP has shown a consistent trend of trying to appease and encourage mass retail to pick up the figures by offering mass market versions of figures like censored versions of some of the scantily clad females, non-bloody figures, tweaked sculpts, tweaked names, and tweaked bases. They obviously want to have a mass market presence and it's nothing new. If they can get WM on the hook for Sportspicks, it's fiscally responsible to try to get Spawn in there too and we've seen that it doesn't take that much of a hit to the artistic integrity to get it done, either.

WM, however, IS the company that pulled all of the Daredevil figures from a ML line once because of a customers complaint about it glorifying evil. So it wouldn't surprise me if even after the mass market tweak they ended up dropping Spawn... again.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Hold up here a sec.

Some of you are talking like it's been announced that this line has been canceled or put on hold. Has this actually happened or is this just speculation still?

I, being one of the few boardies here who wants to see this line happen, would be very happy to here that it's being delayed so they can give this line the attention it deserves to have.

But canceled? That would be very disappointing. For me.

no announcement either way

[bborst]

no announcement either way Thank you.

[Fake_Nick]

It's called "Adventures of Spawn."

ROLMFAOF LOL.

Now it's clear to me.

I just miss the exciting of some years ago, when I suffered for not having enough money for TMP (Monsters, Tortured, MM, Spawn, reborns, 12"ers, elvises, etc.)...

[ChrisM]

It's a tough balancing act. TRU is supposedly moving toward adult collectibles, which should be good for traditional Spawn lines. Target isn't even buying Halo so I'm not sure where their head is at. KB, whether they buy or not, isn't what it used to be. I had been surrounded by KB's, now I have to drive 1/2 an hour to get to the closest one. Wal-Mart may be a big retailer, but only seems to sell Halo at their 'Class A' stores. I've never seen any Halo at the Wal-marts by me. All they have is some Sportspicks and leftover Beowulf & Dragons.

If Wal-Mart wants kiddy toy Spawn, maybe S35 should be sold as WM exclusives. I don't like them, but I could care less if they make them or not. The only thing that hurts is when it gets in the way of real Spawn lines.

Us fans do need to realize the 'crisis' McF is in. They need to have big sellers and for now, Sports & Halo is it (look at the release schedule). Sports is pretty much a constant, but Halo needs to be milked before the hype passes (not trying to trivialize it, but there comes a point when they run out of colors to repaint the same figures).

In my opinion, their factories are going full tilt on sports & Halo, and for now there isn't room for much else.

Hopefully next year or so, the Halo profits will be used to fund Spawn lines.

If only Spawn's new direction is for him to invade the Halo universe ;)

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

If only Spawn's new direction is for him to invade the Halo universe ;)

done, done and done...
http://www.spawn.com/toys/games/other/hellspartan/images/other_hellspartan_photo_01_dp.jpg

[ChrisM]

done, done and done...
http://www.spawn.com/toys/games/other/hellspartan/images/other_hellspartan_photo_01_dp.jpg

Yea, but I mean 'real' Spawn and the other Spawn characters.

[OCELOT]

let's not forget that the last time McF made a major push to get back into Wal-Mart it was around Series 25 and WM did carry them and even got their own versions. They also changed their mind at almost the last minute on a two pack that ended up at KB toys and then dropped Spawn again for the most part by Series 27.

And TMP has shown a consistent trend of trying to appease and encourage mass retail to pick up the figures by offering mass market versions of figures like censored versions of some of the scantily clad females, non-bloody figures, tweaked sculpts, tweaked names, and tweaked bases. They obviously want to have a mass market presence and it's nothing new. If they can get WM on the hook for Sportspicks, it's fiscally responsible to try to get Spawn in there too and we've seen that it doesn't take that much of a hit to the artistic integrity to get it done, either.

WM, however, IS the company that pulled all of the Daredevil figures from a ML line once because of a customers complaint about it glorifying evil. So it wouldn't surprise me if even after the mass market tweak they ended up dropping Spawn... again.

The issue here however is different. Past lines that were altered for Wal-Mart had the classic Spawn elements: Evil, death, gore, sex, ect. They simply changed the names of a couple characters and had an alternate head. The robot figures, if it's true they are delayed to be altered for wal-mart, offered none of those elements. So what is it that needs to be changed about them? Do the designs need to be dumbed down even more? More kid friendly?

And what about the fan's reaction? It's clear they were overwhelmingly disliked with a handful of supporters. So lets look at it this way; they are being revamped for the fans. All new designs that are more fitting to Spawn. Robots that are more like the Oz Tinman or something. I'm sure fans would like it more. But then Wal-Mart really isn't going to carry them.

I understand Todd needs income from mass market stores to keep afloat. That's why there's sports picks and HALO. So just keep selling those in Wal-Mart and quit screwing with the lines that need to stay specialty. Or stick with the mass market/specialty split versions. Don't "Disney" up the designs just to please a store and alienate all your fans.

[aelam]

HAHAHAHA. Really that’s the entire appeal of spawn? LOL if it wasn't for Target and Wal-Mart caring the figures way back in the day I probably wouldn't even have started collecting them. I am sure the same can be said for many people on here. I remember my disappointment when those stores stopped caring spawn right after the movie come out and they haven't since. It was the coolest thing ever to go to Target and see a section larger than the current star wars allotment for Spawn figures. Those were the days the figures actually had some value and collectability unlike today where many figure despite being harder to find are barely worth retail if you are lucky.

If Mcfarlane just stuck to little comic stores and places like Suncoast they would be in alot more trouble right now. That’s part of what killed Palisades and is causing other companies to struggle. What so many people on here fail to realize is that Mcfarlane is a company at the end of the day. Their goal is to make money and be successful. If they didn't try to get their products into stores that are going to be more reliable and stay in business they in turn will fail. Plus being in larger retailers means a better selection of figures and lower prices. I cannot stand seeing the $18 price tag at GameStop or Sam goody for a halo figure.

I liked the robots alot because like I said they look much more like Manga Spawn than the recent figure. I am happy that they decided to rethink the line some though because it could def be better but that’s not to say it was bad. I still look forward to this line coming out since I liked the off shoots of spawn just as much as the comic accurate stuff.

I like this guy.

[sSHADOWw]

All of this just means more time for me to focus on other lines and catch up. Il wait patiently for 2010 when we might see something from spawn that will bring back some fanboy love.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

The issue here however is different. Past lines that were altered for Wal-Mart had the classic Spawn elements: Evil, death, gore, sex, ect. They simply changed the names of a couple characters and had an alternate head. The robot figures, if it's true they are delayed to be altered for wal-mart, offered none of those elements. So what is it that needs to be changed about them? Do the designs need to be dumbed down even more? More kid friendly?

And what about the fan's reaction? It's clear they were overwhelmingly disliked with a handful of supporters. So lets look at it this way; they are being revamped for the fans. All new designs that are more fitting to Spawn. Robots that are more like the Oz Tinman or something. I'm sure fans would like it more. But then Wal-Mart really isn't going to carry them.

I understand Todd needs income from mass market stores to keep afloat. That's why there's sports picks and HALO. So just keep selling those in Wal-Mart and quit screwing with the lines that need to stay specialty. Or stick with the mass market/specialty split versions. Don't "Disney" up the designs just to please a store and alienate all your fans.

if it comes down to getting the product into a store or not being able to sell the product to the fans, period, I'd go with get the product into a store. it can't be bought if it's not for sale and it's obvious that TMP isn't at the point where they want to do a significant amount of direct sales as a proportion of their revenue stream.

I didn't really like any of the Manga, Interlink, Nitroriders, Techno or Adventures of Spawn save maybe 3 total figures but I never went around about how they were committing blashpemy by trying something new.

Not one of those Spawn lines, save AoS was very Spawn save for a few sculpted pieces here and there. Yet there are pockets of fans that love them to death, just like there are pockets of fans who will refuse to buy anything that's not based on the comics.

You're perfectly entitled to like or dislike whatever you want, but at some point you're going to be alienated by a Spawn line or one from any other company. And you're not going to agree with the designs. That doesn't mean the product shouldn't be made, and that doesn't mean that "all" of the fans will feel the same way. And the board is wrong as often as its right. The fans of MM's and all of the edgier horror stuff forget how alienated much of the board was when those became popular and many felt it was at the expense of Spawn and that they were more about what popular movie was coming out than about their flagship line.

Had McF listened to the board, Halo wouldn't be one of thier licenses and it seems that was a very smart move. Military and Dragons wouldn't have ever been made and those both exceeded expectations in terms of longevity and popularity and I'd have a lot less figures in my collection.

If they're going to tweak for WM, I'll reserve my opinion on the product till I see the product. I was definately down for a Breaker and Striker because they were fairly interesting designs and I'd like to get those just as much as I want a Captain Bale, Necromancer, Libra, Sgt. Johnson and more Phlebiacs.

[Spawm]

Even though S35 doesn't really appeal to me, I want it to sell, even if it means redesigning them for Walmart. That means more exposure and more money for McFarlane, which in turn means more Spawn comic-based figures. I just wish we didn't have to wait so long for series 36. Must have N.T.S now!!


I blame Tony Twist.

[Cursedknight]

Had McF listened to the board, Halo wouldn't be one of thier licenses and it seems that was a very smart move. Military and Dragons wouldn't have ever been made and those both exceeded expectations in terms of longevity and popularity and I'd have a lot less figures in my collection.

Sorry AoC.....but that's complete BS!

Both military figs AND Dragons were genre of toys that WERE giants on the board as must haves.
C'mon now, you've been around here longer than that. Maybe you have SELECTIVE memory like my 14 year old does, but I for one was a major advocate for "Joe" competitors, and a fantasy line that involved monsterous DRAGONS....not to mention Conan (which didn't do the greatest but still paid for itself)
After all "I just LOVE monsters" too........
Nitro, Techno, lines like those weren't big hits.....but I remember seeing them sell out at our local TRU. Especially when the chase figures were released.

I'd REALLY love to see Todd bring back the R3's to alot of strangely posed in-house figs.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Military and Dragons were requested here and there for years, but don't you recall the actual mood when Todd himself asked about it?

I do. There was a mini backlash. A very similar type of backlash to the idea of doing TV figures, which itself had a group of people who were all about the idea but for the most part most of the vocal folks talked down the TV figures and talked up more Movie Maniacs.

Then when the TV figures actually started becoming a reality the fans started coming out of the woodwork in support of the idea. People started asking for 24, The Shield, The Sopranos, Heroes and more because now all of a sudden it was more than just an idea being thrown out there. Just like with Dragons. Just like with Military. The people who hated the idea were the most vocal and the people who liked it were mostly MIA until they saw some actual movement and progress.

Do you recall how many times McFarlane Jurassic Park came up? Or the Wild West Dark Ages? Or the Aztec, Egyptian and Roman Dark Age figs? Or the Cyptozoology? And the Zodiac? Robots? Hell on the Sports side there were pushes for Golf, Boxing and Tour de France.

Yeah, there were fans of each idea and petitions to get them done, but let's not overstate just how many people were sitting here petitioning for and pushing those ideas. I was one of the people pushing for most of that, including Dragons/Fantasy and Military. And anytime I'd bring it up I'd catch a crapstorm for it, though not as bad as the people who have been asking for 6 years for Slipknot figures. So I remember fairly well.

[RaoulOD]

Plus, I'd like to point out that a lot of board members are selling off their dragons and military collections. Just sayin'...

[Manga_Spawn]

I like this guy.

Well thank you.

I think you guys are taking what I said earlier out of context. The retooling of the line is a direct result to the extremely negative feedback from the boards the line recieved. So you should be happy that they listened to your input. Second is the fact that they want this line to be the Spawn series that gets spawn toys back into Walmarts and targets for good. Spawn and other in house lines lack what Halo, Sports, and soon guitar hero have and that is a strong foot hold in a stable retailer. Each of those lines has a massive appeal to the average person not just action figure collecters. Spawn does not have that since the popularity of the comic has decreased and there hasn't anything like a movie or show recently to help it.

This line needs to bridge a gap that spawn hasn't in a very long time and that is getting the average buyer interested. These figures would look great next to your anime robots, transformers, etc as well as appeal to kids as being a cool looking toy. The problem with the comic lines is that there is not as many potential buyers because they are not a fan of the comic so they wouldn't therefore buy a toy.

I think it is very smart that they start moving back to what used to work and that was taking the spawn style and mixing it with another be it anime, dark ages etc. Granted some of it hasn't worked like the egptian spawn line but I think it will get there.

[Masked Moron]

Spawn and other in house lines lack what Halo, Sports, and soon guitar hero have and that is a strong foot hold in a stable retailer. Each of those lines has a massive appeal to the average person not just action figure collecters. .

Did you see the reaction Guitar hero figs got?

Not just on this board, but on gaming boards that included huge fans of the GH games?

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

mostly negative or indifferent from what I've seen

[classic]

like i said earlier in the post i really hope these are cancelled because the whole idea of being a "spawn" line is ******ed. if you want to make a robot line, fine make one, but dont make it as spawn. and make them with good designs of high tech terminator endoskeleton typs where you actually see the engineering and mechanics of it. not just some cheap azz mega man knocks off like the initial desings of series 35.

it would be nice to get some official word from someone at mcfarlane on this. although that rarely happens these days

[Masked Moron]

if you want to make a robot line, fine make one, but dont make it as spawn.

That's what I was really hoping they'd do with the happymeal spawn sets. :(

[Manga_Spawn]

Did you see the reaction Guitar hero figs got?

Not just on this board, but on gaming boards that included huge fans of the GH games?


True but the retailers LOVE them and I am willing to bet that they sell fairly well. I think that a younger age group than what is on here and other boards is going to buy them. I was at SDCC and saw peoples reaction first hand. There were alot of happy faces.

[Masked Moron]

True but the retailers LOVE them and I am willing to bet that they sell fairly well. I think that a younger age group than what is on here and other boards is going to buy them. I was at SDCC and saw peoples reaction first hand. There were alot of happy faces.


Didn't we get the same song & dance about Hannah Barberra figs?
;)

Don't get me wrong... if it works for the company, great... power to them... but I honestly can't see them doing very well.

[skubasteve]

True but the retailers LOVE them and I am willing to bet that they sell fairly well. I think that a younger age group than what is on here and other boards is going to buy them. I was at SDCC and saw peoples reaction first hand. There were alot of happy faces.

I'm willing to bet my next paycheck that Guitar Hero is an EPIC FAILURE. The only way I can see TMP making any money off of them is if they sell their entire stock to retailers all in one shot, because I don't think they'll be coming back for wave 2. These won't be peg warmers, they'll be stock room warmers because the pegs will be full for a long long time.

Retailers may LOVE them, but retailers also love all the other peg warmer figures as well. Like the Hulk, Spider Man, and Iron Man figs that are collecting dust in their stores.

[Manga_Spawn]

Lol. I think comparing Guitar hero (an insanely popular game with all age groups right now) to Hannah Barberra a bunch of old cartoons that are long past their high time is a bit unfair. Now I don't care at all about the guitar hero figures and will not be buying them but I think they will sell just fine. Esp if they can be near the video game section which if the stores are smart they will put them right next to the game.

I don't think anyone expected halo to be this big either. Sure it is popular but halo 3 did not do as well as the previous 2 games but none the less many of you are paying for the same master chief over and over again just becuase of different paint. Anyone that calls the robots Mcdonalds toys had better take a hard look at halo and realize they are far less inspired than the robot designs.

[Masked Moron]

Lol. I think comparing Guitar hero (an insanely popular game with all age groups right now) to Hannah Barberra a bunch of old cartoons that are long past their high time is a bit unfair. Now I don't care at all about the guitar hero figures and will not be buying them but I think they will sell just fine. Esp if they can be near the video game section which if the stores are smart they will put them right next to the game.

I don't think anyone expected halo to be this big either. Sure it is popular but halo 3 did not do as well as the previous 2 games but none the less many of you are paying for the same master chief over and over again just becuase of different paint. Anyone that calls the robots Mcdonalds toys had better take a hard look at halo and realize they are far less inspired than the robot designs.

Bit of a difference between (basically) figs of amrored soldiers done in a "realistic" style, and (basically) figs of musicians done in a caricature style...

I had bought the joyride halo figs before I ever played Halo... ( don't care for the gamne at all, but the figs are nicely done... both JR & McF) so it's not "all" about how popular the game is...

"Lost" was suposed to be the most popular show in the world ( or some such crap) at the time the figs came out... look how well that worked for translation into fig sales.

As for the happymeal toys.... it could be the most inspired, well crafted, well painted, most imaginitive thing in the world... ever... but if it's "cartoonish" like the "adventures of spawn" sets, it looks more like it should be something found in a kids Happy meal than on the shelf of a comic shop.

If you take a Spawn fig like Jazzhands, and set it beside a Spawn X, and ask someone who had never seen or heard of Spawn to tell you what age group they thought each one was geared for, do you honestly thing they'd say the Spawn X was for anything over a 6 year old?

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

didn't Halo 3 pass total sales of Halo 2 in January?

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

As for the happymeal toys.... it could be the most inspired, well crafted, well painted, most imaginitive thing in the world... ever... but if it's "cartoonish" like the "adventures of spawn" sets, it looks more like it should be something found in a kids Happy meal than on the shelf of a comic shop.

If you take a Spawn fig like Jazzhands, and set it beside a Spawn X, and ask someone who had never seen or heard of Spawn to tell you what age group they thought each one was geared for, do you honestly thing they'd say the Spawn X was for anything over a 6 year old?

which, as usual, is your penchant for overgeneralization because even if it appeared to be geared for a six year old, it's still a major stretch of logic for that product to be found in a kids meal when you've got a wave of products hitting comic shops and more in a similar animated style or which are cartoonish representations of characters and they are in high demand from adult collectors.

Animaquette Jason
Animated Boba Fett and Leia Statues
SW Animated Figures
Spiderman 3 VCD's
SW VCD's
Mighty Muggs

and that stuff goes right along with the Justice League figures and other Timm-style product, which in turn is where the Adventures of Spawn Stuff fits.

Putting the Robots in there is quite a stretch especially considering that they're closer to the Evangelion, Gundam and numerous other mecha-type designs coming out of Japan than any of the other cartoony stuff out there. Slap some articulation in there and it almost looks like Max Factory would put out, or a larger Revoltech figure.

stick any of that in a Happy Meal and you'd have to charge a lot more for your Happy Meal. It's a moot point and all it shows is more of your bias against anything with a hint of anime or cartoonesque flair to it.

[Cursedknight]

People beeotched and complained about "Where the Wild Things Are" too....... about as vocal as it gets.
But what was the number one seller that year?
And how many people asked for similar lines to be introduced so that the hobby could be transitioned to their kids?
This robot thing (in my opinion) was just another move in that direction.....just like AoS. Most of us core collectors really don't appreciate them, nor do we want them.......but they get bought, and alot of the time by younger people in homes of core fans.
I really dig the robots of years past, but they don't hold much commercial appeal. Interlink was one of my favorite series, and I'm a hardcore CORE fan. I don't buy much of anything that isn't inspired by the comic itself, but I HAD to have the interlink. Maybe it wsa a kickback from the Voltron days, maybe it was an attempt to market to the aging Power Ranger kids that were finally in their teens.....
At any rate, you can't base anything fiscal on the reactions of fanboys and internet geeks.
But one thing is FOR SURE...... G.I. Joe has always had a following, and DRAGONS sell by the millions every year (no matter who makes them)
Hell, if you really wanna delve deep into where those 2 lines came to be from....... it was a bug in the ear of StV by a SMALL CORE GROUP. He thought much the same as the board members did and was fairly insistant that Todd consider them. He was even the reason that NASCAR ever got made too.....but licensing was really the reason that it failed. If it weren't for that....I'd bet that people would still be complaining about "how freaking many versions of Dale Jr. does a person need?"
N' Wally World sold those to all of the backwoods by the dozens!
Marketing isn't really a science, but more of a skill at having a feel for the state of culture at the time.

I think there are alot of valid points being expressed in this topic......but really, the line was extraordinarily boring looking. Even the better ones left alot to be desired.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

have you seen the "new" NASCAR figures at WM?

[classic]

People beeotched and complained about "Where the Wild Things Are" too....... about as vocal as it gets.
But what was the number one seller that year?
And how many people asked for similar lines to be introduced so that the hobby could be transitioned to their kids?
This robot thing (in my opinion) was just another move in that direction.....just like AoS. Most of us core collectors really don't appreciate them, nor do we want them.......but they get bought, and alot of the time by younger people in homes of core fans.
I really dig the robots of years past, but they don't hold much commercial appeal. Interlink was one of my favorite series, and I'm a hardcore CORE fan. I don't buy much of anything that isn't inspired by the comic itself, but I HAD to have the interlink. Maybe it wsa a kickback from the Voltron days, maybe it was an attempt to market to the aging Power Ranger kids that were finally in their teens.....
At any rate, you can't base anything fiscal on the reactions of fanboys and internet geeks.
But one thing is FOR SURE...... G.I. Joe has always had a following, and DRAGONS sell by the millions every year (no matter who makes them)
Hell, if you really wanna delve deep into where those 2 lines came to be from....... it was a bug in the ear of StV by a SMALL CORE GROUP. He thought much the same as the board members did and was fairly insistant that Todd consider them. He was even the reason that NASCAR ever got made too.....but licensing was really the reason that it failed. If it weren't for that....I'd bet that people would still be complaining about "how freaking many versions of Dale Jr. does a person need?"
N' Wally World sold those to all of the backwoods by the dozens!
Marketing isn't really a science, but more of a skill at having a feel for the state of culture at the time.

I think there are alot of valid points being expressed in this topic......but really, the line was extraordinarily boring looking. Even the better ones left alot to be desired.

you are really wrong on where the wild things are. those didnt sell at well. i remember being able to pick up sets heavily discounted at TRU and KB but didnt, wish i did now. Only reason they are worth money is because there werent alot made, and there wasnt alot made because there wasnt a big demand.

[Cursedknight]

I'm not wrong about Wild things at all.
The reason you COULD get them at discount was because retailers overpriced them to begin with.

[classic]

back then a figure never cracked 10 bucks so i dont see how they were over priced. i could have gotten them for 3.99 for months till they sold out

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

i have a lot of NASCAR figures. one of every one to be exact. even a couple i prolly aint supposed to have. :D and yeah. the new ones at walmart are junk. and the little 3 inch ones are actually old reused mcfarlane bodies with new heads. weird.

I laughed mighty hard looking at a huge bin of them at my WM, remembering how bad Gleason wanted NASCAR and his utter meltdown when they stopped making them only or essentially the same stuff to be released with lower quality and packed into those odd round clamshells.

[Gavrilo Princip]

If that's true, that's just STUPID. The whole appeal of Spawn is that it's something that WOULDN"T be sold in Wal-Mart. Sure, maybe they'll pick up a PG S35, but then they'll just drop it again when lines like S36 start coming out.

If Todd wants Wal-Mart to carry Spawn, the line is dead, at least as we know it.



wth pete?

You used to be so against me on this when I was saying the exact same thing two years ago...

[Peter Hoffman]

A LOT has changed in two years. Two years ago they were still making a lot of lines that weren't Wal-Mart friendly. As it is now, I've been done with McF for the year since Zodiac S1. A far cry from even last year.

[Captain Sassy Pants]

which, as usual, is your penchant for overgeneralization because even if it appeared to be geared for a six year old, it's still a major stretch of logic for that product to be found in a kids meal when you've got a wave of products hitting comic shops and more in a similar animated style or which are cartoonish representations of characters and they are in high demand from adult collectors.

Animaquette Jason
Animated Boba Fett and Leia Statues
SW Animated Figures
Spiderman 3 VCD's
SW VCD's
Mighty Muggs

and that stuff goes right along with the Justice League figures and other Timm-style product, which in turn is where the Adventures of Spawn Stuff fits.

Putting the Robots in there is quite a stretch especially considering that they're closer to the Evangelion, Gundam and numerous other mecha-type designs coming out of Japan than any of the other cartoony stuff out there. Slap some articulation in there and it almost looks like Max Factory would put out, or a larger Revoltech figure.

stick any of that in a Happy Meal and you'd have to charge a lot more for your Happy Meal. It's a moot point and all it shows is more of your bias against anything with a hint of anime or cartoonesque flair to it.
It looks like a happy meal toy.

All that talk, and yet, it still looks like a happy meal toy.

[norlkrivc]

most dire dire news... but there is hope...

[BiBLE]

I laughed mighty hard looking at a huge bin of them at my WM, remembering how bad Gleason wanted NASCAR and his utter meltdown when they stopped making them only or essentially the same stuff to be released with lower quality and packed into those odd round clamshells.

Are the Sports Boardies going crazy over those nifty soap-like "action" figures?

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

they do... all the time, actually

[apple]

John just called me on my cell phone.

Spawn figures have been canceled Due to diminishing interest, need for plastic to use on Sports figures, Inability to shrink figures any smaller and still justify high price, the war, christian conservatives, rising coast of cardboard backings, hurricanes in the gulf, the dollar menu at Mcy D's and the internets.

So there you have it. That is why We will no longer be getting Spawn.

[apple]

John just called me on my cell phone.

Spawn figures have been canceled Due to diminishing interest, need for plastic to use on Sports figures, Inability to shrink figures any smaller and still justify high price, the war, christian conservatives, rising coast of cardboard backings, hurricanes in the gulf, the dollar menu at Mcy D's and the internets.

So there you have it. That is why We will no longer be getting Spawn.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

who's John?

[Manga_Spawn]

John just called me on my cell phone.

Spawn figures have been canceled Due to diminishing interest, need for plastic to use on Sports figures, Inability to shrink figures any smaller and still justify high price, the war, christian conservatives, rising coast of cardboard backings, hurricanes in the gulf, the dollar menu at Mcy D's and the internets.

So there you have it. That is why We will no longer be getting Spawn.

LOL :D

[ickzer1]

The Spawn franchise needs to be re-energized before retailers will care about it. Spawn has been out of the limelight for way too long. Plus its still only a 90s comic with a cheesy 90s movie. Spawn needs updates and exposure.

[MangaSpawn64]

blame it on the rain??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwrL9MV6jSk :D :D :D

[SakuKoivuRulez11]

you deserved it!

[Ivan the Terrible]

Joe said they want this to be the line that gets spawn back into stores like walmart and target who stopped carring spawn becuase he is from hell and a demon which is just not pg enough for them.

What a load of crap. The battle between Heaven and Hell is the essence of what Spawn is all about. The name Spawn is short for HELLspawn after all.

Todd can continue to make all the sports figs he wants for Walmart but he should give them a firm middle finger when it comes to dictating what he puts in a Spawn line. Screw their political correctness and pg requirements. If he has to, Spawn should be a special line available only in specialty stores or online.

Me I'm happy to see the robots bite the dust. They had nothing to do with Spawn to start with.

Bring back the Spawn lines loaded with demons and horrific creatures. That's what I want to see! :spawnskul

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

WM wouldn't appear to me to be the same problem that Target is. With WM they've been in and out of the Spawn game for years and don't seem as hard to deal with because there's already product in a lot of stores, including that last Spawn series.

Target on the other hand walked away long ago and it seems to be more difficult to get them to carry anything, let alone Spawn. Hell, they don't even carry Sportpicks or Halo.

[ChrisM]

Update on S35 courtesy of Joe (possibly good news on S36):

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=472775

[BiBLE]

It's a soft kill.

[Starfig]

The Spawn franchise needs to be re-energized before retailers will care about it. Spawn has been out of the limelight for way too long. Plus its still only a 90s comic with a cheesy 90s movie. Spawn needs updates and exposure.

You mean the Spawn movie showing on TBS on Wednesdays isn't doing it? :( Shocking.

:p

[Manga_Spawn]

Booooooo. Well looks like it may really be dead. Oh well. Maybe they will give me the protos if I ask reallllllll nice. Yeah right. Thanks to all the whiners that ruined it.

[BiBLE]

Booooooo. Well looks like it may really be dead. Oh well. Maybe they will give me the protos if I ask reallllllll nice. Yeah right. Thanks to all the whiners that ruined it.

Interlink is the only one that comes to mind as being put on hold for a while so they could hammer some things out in the line.
It could be just me, but this line seems just a bit less complex. It's that lack of complexity or diversity that really killed it for me.
I like Spawn.
I like robots.
I like boobs.
I like guns.
For the most part, this line should of been a no-brainer. Instead, I'm craving Skittles.

[Karnis]

Lets face it...Spawn 35 was cancelled because if you squeezed them, they made a squeaky sound. :eek:

[Doku]

It's crap like this that has kept me from getting anything McFarlane in years. The Spawn lines have been overall lame.

Finally they get the rights to Halo and milk it to death. I'd buy several if they weren't so tiny. Hasbro? What?

Then some more lame video game figures. Call of Duty and Guitar Hero?! OF ALL GAMES, WHY!? McF already did military and who the crap would want the characters from GH? Yes, because they were such an important part in the game and the video game world.

Come the **** on.

[bborst]

What a load of crap. The battle between Heaven and Hell is the essence of what Spawn is all about. The name Spawn is short for HELLspawn after all.

Todd can continue to make all the sports figs he wants for Walmart but he should give them a firm middle finger when it comes to dictating what he puts in a Spawn line. Screw their political correctness and pg requirements. If he has to, Spawn should be a special line available only in specialty stores or online.

Me I'm happy to see the robots bite the dust. They had nothing to do with Spawn to start with.

Bring back the Spawn lines loaded with demons and horrific creatures. That's what I want to see! :spawnskul

I agree 100% with what Ivan is saying (except for the part about the line being canceled). I'm sick of hearing how all retailers - not just McFarlane Toys, must conform to Wal-Mart's ******ed and unfair retail standards to sell their products.

But unfortunately, until McF can get their stuff back into Target stores, they would be practically committing suicide if they stopped their releationship with Wal-Mart. They're just too big and have too many stores and in the end it makes a huge difference in profits.

As for S35 being on hold, like Joe mentioned them not being retooled. If they're not being retooled then why not just release what you have already. Why delay it? Use this time then to retool those figures and make them what they should be: Exciting! Add guns and missiles and weapon packs, maybe give them interchangeable parts or give them display stands!

[classic]

The way I read Joe's comment about 36 coming out before 35 was that it may be a VERY long time before we see a new spawn line. I'd say 36 will just be called 35 and then we may never get those robots. Or maybe I'm just being a debbie-downer. prove me wrong McToys. Please?

i agree, series 36 isnt until fall of 09 which is a whole year from now. that means series 35 would be almost 14 or 15 months out. whens the last time a line was pushed that far back and then was actually released. i just dont see that happening, makes me happy though cause those robots were junk

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I wish I had enough hate for something someone else liked to actually be happy it was or could be cancelled. That would be swell.

[Brimskull]

Wonder if we'll get this series when the Spawn sequel hits theatres? Perfect combination if you ask me

[Karnis]

Wonder if we'll get this series when the Spawn sequel hits theatres?


I'd like to get them before 2017, thank you very much. ;)

If they were smart they would release them to coincide with the comic reboot! :D

[Gavrilo Princip]

I wish I had enough hate for something someone else liked to actually be happy it was or could be cancelled. That would be swell.


It's for the best, Avi. It's for the best...

**pats on the back**

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

**brushes off the patronizing hand and waits for his robots**