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EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 04:07 PM
What the heck is wrong with this guy? BIG Slopi is no longer clutch or even a good hitter anymore. Was he on the "juice" during his prime and now that he is off, this is the real Ortiz?
Hardcore Legend
10-13-2008, 04:08 PM
This is David Arias, the player Ortiz was before he found his 'magic juice'.
EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 04:11 PM
This is David Arias, the player Ortiz was before he found his 'magic juice'.


We need that "magic juice" back. :) David Arias is joke.....I like to call him Big Sloppy
ChargerChris
10-13-2008, 04:13 PM
Ortiz's wrist injury has hurt him the entire season. He came back earlier than he was supposed to. We're lucky he's even playing this post-season.
mrmet6986
10-13-2008, 04:16 PM
No Manny = No Protection simple as that. no one will fear Youkilis, Bay, Drew or anyone else Boston put's behind Ortiz like they did Manny.

it was a good trade for Boston in theory but the prescence of Manny behind Ortiz made them the most fearsome duo in the majors. no other 3-4 combo will perform like they did the last 4 years for a very long time.

just look at last year's playoffs. if not for Manny and Ortiz getting on base every freakin' at bat Boston would have been completely sunk. those 2 single handedly won the WS for the Sox last year and even though they could very well win it again this year the level of confidence has to down somewhat since there is not as much fear in the opponents eye's.
EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 04:17 PM
Ortiz's wrist injury has hurt him the entire season. He came back earlier than he was supposed to. We're lucky he's even playing this post-season.

Oh, real lucky.....he hasn't done crap......only thing he is good for is a pop fly or a base on balls. That is it......no production from the 3 spot.

Don't get me started on Varitek !!!! He needs to "go away"
mrmet6986
10-13-2008, 04:19 PM
Don't get me started on Varitek !!!! He needs to "go away"

he will at the end of the year when his contract is up.;)
ChargerChris
10-13-2008, 04:19 PM
dude, you're bashing on two of the most productive players in our franchise's history. Relax. Be grateful we won it all in '04 and '07. Maybe this year just isn't our year.
EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 04:21 PM
he will at the end of the year when his contract is up.;)

I hope your right!!! I think the Sox will sign him back.......why I don't know.........they say he is great with the pitching staff. To bad he can't hit a baseball anymore.....
EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 04:23 PM
dude, you're bashing on two of the most productive players in our franchise's history. Relax. Be grateful we won it all in '04 and '07. Maybe this year just isn't our year.


I'm just saying....what happend to this guy? He has lost his game and its sad to see....
Chevy Man 22
10-13-2008, 04:27 PM
No Manny = No Protection simple as that. no one will fear Youkilis, Bay, Drew or anyone else Boston put's behind Ortiz like they did Manny.

it was a good trade for Boston in theory but the prescence of Manny behind Ortiz made them the most fearsome duo in the majors. no other 3-4 combo will perform like they did the last 4 years for a very long time.

just look at last year's playoffs. if not for Manny and Ortiz getting on base every freakin' at bat Boston would have been completely sunk. those 2 single handedly won the WS for the Sox last year and even though they could very well win it again this year the level of confidence has to down somewhat since there is not as much fear in the opponents eye's.


There ya go !!!!! :)
EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 04:36 PM
0 - 3 tonight.....with 2 pop outs and a K looking............horrible!!! All with runners on base. 0 - 52 at bats without a HR in the postseason.
RAIDEN6
10-13-2008, 04:41 PM
I've always said that he was a product of roids.
EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 06:06 PM
0 - 4.....:(
matzushocka
10-13-2008, 06:09 PM
This is all due to lack of Manny behind him.
NotoriousVesaToskala
10-13-2008, 06:13 PM
It's a combination of things, his swing is messed up because clearly his wrist is bothering him and of course you can't ignore the Manny factor, when you have one of the Top 10-15 hitters of all-time hitting behind you, it's definitely going to make your job easier and give you alot of hittable pitches. But still, Garza went right at him on a couple of occasions today and threw him fastballs on the inside corner and Ortiz really couldn't do anything with the pitch.
matzushocka
10-13-2008, 06:15 PM
Garza was damn good tonight.
EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 06:18 PM
Garza was good tonight......but Ortiz hasn't done anything ALL postseason !!!!!!
EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 06:21 PM
Also, pissing me off......with Ortiz not hitting the ball and with TB putting the shift on every time. WHY don't they just have Ortiz bunt one down the 3rd base line? Just get on base and give Drew, Bay, and the other a chance to drive him in. Instead, they let BIG Sloppy try to swing away....which just leads to him popping out or hitting one into the shift.
NotoriousVesaToskala
10-13-2008, 06:23 PM
Also, pissing me off......with Ortiz not hitting the ball and with TB putting the shift on every time. WHY don't they just have Ortiz bunt one down the 3rd base line? Just get on base and give Drew, Bay, and the other a chance to drive him in. Instead, they let BIG Sloppy try to swing away....which just leads to him popping out or hitting one into the shift.

The Rays don't put the shift on vs. Ortiz until he has a strike on him so he can't bunt down the third base line.
matzushocka
10-13-2008, 06:24 PM
The Sox have a lot of problems, outside of Ortiz as well bud.
No offensive production from Lowrie/Cora, Varitek, and Ellsbury isn't helping anything either. Francona has also made some extremely questionable decisions this series that have not helped.
EastcoastSean
10-13-2008, 06:26 PM
The Sox have a lot of problems, outside of Ortiz as well bud.
No offensive production from Lowrie/Cora, Varitek, and Ellsbury isn't helping anything either. Francona has also made some extremely questionable decisions this series that have not helped.

Totally agree!!! 100%
benganeer1
10-13-2008, 06:32 PM
What the heck is wrong with this guy? BIG Slopi is no longer clutch or even a good hitter anymore. Was he on the "juice" during his prime and now that he is off, this is the real Ortiz?

Don't you mean "Big Poopi"?
matzushocka
10-13-2008, 06:33 PM
Don't you mean "Big Poopi"?

Wow, you are obnoxious.
benganeer1
10-13-2008, 07:11 PM
Not as obnoxious as the Redsux fans! I thought yankmee fan is horrible, but, I had my daughter's at the game with me on Saturday and the Redsux fans were cursing, taunting and just plain out disrespectful!
matzushocka
10-13-2008, 07:23 PM
Not as obnoxious as the Redsux fans! I thought yankmee fan is horrible, but, I had my daughter's at the game with me on Saturday and the Redsux fans were cursing, taunting and just plain out disrespectful!

Bro, don't even go there. It was not just Sox fans cursing and taunting. You and I can both agree that the Trop over-served ALL the fans Sat. night since the game went as long as it did creating a ton of problems for everyone,especially if you brought ur kids w you.
It's been all over the radio the last 2 days how bad everything was down there. I can't remember how many arrests they said went down.
benganeer1
10-14-2008, 08:53 AM
You and I can both agree that the Trop over-served ALL the fans Sat. night since the game went as long as it did creating a ton of problems for everyone.

That was your "boy" Beckett's fault, my god he was taking almost 2 minutes between pitches.