HALO WARTHOG QUESTION

[Joe F.]

What would you all feel is a fair price for an Warthog vehicle in-scale with our 5-inch Halo figures?

http://www.spawn.com/toys/games/halo3vehicles1/warthog/images/halo3vehicles1_warthog_photo_01_lg.jpg

Keep in mind, you may have to put your money where your mouth is. :D

Joe

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

$25.00

[DragoN9ClouD]

i'd pay up to 30. if it comes with figures, more i suppose

[Bulldozer36]

Honestly, I'd pay $30-40. And I'd probably get 2.

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

Ya know, after thinking about it, I'd pay up to $40, too.

[The_Arbiter]

I would pay 30-40 easily, I'm just happy to see that theres a warthog coming ;)

[Bulldozer36]

Hey Joe, I remember the listing for the Mongoose saying it came with a Spartan in the package, would the Warthog as well or not because of its larger size to keep it in check with the Mongoose in range range.

[Graham]

£35

[shawnspookcity]

without fig: 25-30
with fig: 30-35 (because it would likely be another MC)
with exclusive fig: 40-50

[Mr. Wiggity Man]

About 35 bucks

[Drama]

If it came with a figure i would pay 40-45 max i would love for it to be priced at 25 to 30 though.:D

[Bulldozer36]

You do realize Joe that we're now not only expecting an in-scale Warthog but we're expecting it soon and chopped full of epic win (I can't believe I just used L33t speak).

[tn5685]

25.00
35.00 w/ figure

[punkg42]

I would think $30-$35 would be good. Lots of decent sized Star Wars vehicles are out there at $22 or so, a little bigger for the 5" scale as opposed to the 3 3/4" scale... $35 sounds good. $30 sounds even better.

[Fdmatt]

I'd pay whatever it was priced, I'd pay whatever any 5" scale vehicle was, but yeah anywhere from $30 to $40 sounds about right. I just want to see it made. Can we have a Ghost next?

[Joerhyno]

without fig: 25-30
with fig: 30-35 (because it would likely be another MC)
with exclusive fig: 40-50

I agree with this, but it better be quality! I dont want plastic axles that'll end up breaking durring shipment.. and we don't need fancy packaging, go old school hasbro, heck even spawnmobile and just boz the damn thing up and let us be a kid again and put it together ourselves..

Screw the MISB collectors, lol.. they wanna collect a box.. let them.

If you gave us that Warthog, just scaled up, and cheap like it was wanting to break if I sneezed too hard.. I'd be a very pissed lil' boy!!!

[bborst]

I agree with this, but it better be quality! I dont want plastic axles that'll end up breaking durring shipment.. and we don't need fancy packaging, go old school hasbro, heck even spawnmobile and just boz the damn thing up and let us be a kid again and put it together ourselves..

Screw the MISB collectors, lol.. they wanna collect a box.. let them.

If you gave us that Warthog, just scaled up, and cheap like it was wanting to break id I sneezed too hard.. I'd be a very pissed lil' boy!!!...and I agree with this man's statements.

Let us assemble it, and LET THERE BE STICKERS!!!

[IxSL4Y4xI]

30-40 dollars.

[DragoN9ClouD]

i say nay to the stickers, but i dont mind putting it together

[bigassbuzz]

http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/303_chef_folks.gif

[Spliff]

http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/303_chef_folks.gif

HAHA!!!

[Mr. Wiggity Man]

http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/303_chef_folks.gif

HAHA! Awesome.

[shoggoth666]

You could sell them all day long for 40 dollars easy.

[Kabong30]

I'm gonna say $30. If a fig is $10 I think a vehicle should be around $30. But the quality had better be there. 12" MC was about $30, right?

[Bryan316]

$30-35, but you, and we, also have to look at what you're putting into it. If it's just wheels on an axle and a painted plastic body, you have essentially made one of those bootleg military trucks at Wal-Mart, and it should have a $20 ceiling. If you go all-out and give us working suspension, 4-wheel turning, and working lights, then $30. Toss in a Todd-headed Marine, then $35.

You have to look at what other companies are doing that are somewhat similar in size to the Warthog and its potential price point. Mass-producer Hasbro has Star Wars vehicles, even a few with new R&D and tooling, with moving parts and no electronics for $20-25. Diamond Select Toys has their new Star Trek Enterprise-D with LEDs, magnets, and a sound/voice chip that can be pre-ordered for as low as $35. While the Trek example isn't compatible with figures, I'm using it to show that something laced with electronics, generally deemed expensive to add in, can still hit a point that customers are okay with paying.

[Tyler J]

Keep in mind boys and girls, this isn't anything than a question. We aren't saying we are, or aren't going to do the Warthog, we are just considering it. With price being a very large part of that consideration.

Again- your feedback is always appreciated.

[Tyler J]

$30-35, but you, and we, also have to look at what you're putting into it. If it's just wheels on an axle and a painted plastic body, you have essentially made one of those bootleg military trucks at Wal-Mart, and it should have a $20 ceiling. If you go all-out and give us working suspension, 4-wheel turning, and working lights, then $30. Toss in a Todd-headed Marine, then $35.

You have to look at what other companies are doing that are somewhat similar in size to the Warthog and its potential price point. Mass-producer Hasbro has Star Wars vehicles, even a few with new R&D and tooling, with moving parts and no electronics for $20-25. Diamond Select Toys has their new Star Trek Enterprise-D with LEDs, magnets, and a sound/voice chip that can be pre-ordered for as low as $35. While the Trek example isn't compatible with figures, I'm using it to show that something laced with electronics, generally deemed expensive to add in, can still hit a point that customers are okay with paying.

Also be aware that Hasbro produces a HUGE quantity of product- which allows them to have that price point on those vehicles. Not to mention those are 3 3/4" scale vehicles, not 5".

[MUNDO]

I'd go $40 on it. I'd hope for rubber tires and maybe some suspension too. While we're at it, I'd pay about $20 for a Brute Chopper and $20 for a Ghost if it came with a Grunt.

[Protoform X]

I'd pay $25-$35 CDN.

[predrhone]

$40 with rubber tires and turning wheels. $45 with an included figure to drive, perhaps an exclusive paint Spartan or marine. Also... think of the variations! Damaged, pristine, muddy, rusted... bloody? :D

[Spawnomite]

I think a starting price of $40 sounds good.

[canuck_spartan]

It's a tough question. I'm in Canada, so I typically expect to pay anywhere from 25 to 50% more for toys than my fellow collectors in the states. I agree with the others... the more awesome it is the more I'm willing to spend. BUT, I'm a broke azz student, which means it would have to be pretty reasonable and pretty awesome for me to want to buy it. I would expect it to be mainly plastic, but not cheap. As long as it had some turning rubber wheels/tires, some different turret options, and some decent paint apps I would expect to pay about $35 Canadian (mass market retail, LCS would probably be about $45, but I wouldn't buy it there :P)

Oh, and I would rather it DIDN'T come with a figure, as those typically up the cost and I have enough guys as it is.

[penutbuttrbandt]

i could easily do 35-40 and buy mulitples...

now that they know are price point...what would the projected price point be from TMP...just a little heads up

[sabresrule07]

http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/303_chef_folks.gif

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

but yeah, i want a hog

[MaxGoof]

$40 sounds fair to me, and PLEASE include the Tan E.O.D. Spartan with it.

That will be all.

[Bryan316]

Also be aware that Hasbro produces a HUGE quantity of product- which allows them to have that price point on those vehicles. Not to mention those are 3 3/4" scale vehicles, not 5".
Yes, hence the addition of a DST/Star Trek example. I know TMP won't make Hasbro SW quantities, but you will surely produce (and sell) more Warthogs than DST will Enterprise-Ds. A new tooling for a struggling franchise by a specialty-market company at $35 vs. a new tooling for a strong franchise by a specialty + mass-market company.
I do understand the difference in scale of the SW vehicles, but those same vehicles aren't always at the 3.75" scale, just close enough to fit within their $20 vehicle line (and most are a bit undersized). Also, they have a lot of wasted space. There's the ****pit for the figure, and then a lot of body molding that really does nothing. The Warthog, from the tires flush with the nose and tail to the three functioning seats/positions for figures, is all "playspace."
If I did my math correctly (crosses fingers), Master Chief is 84", TMP's MC is 5", so each TMP inch equals 16.8 "real" inches. "Real" Warthogs are 240" x 126" x 117". The TMP Warthog would be 14.29" x 7.5" x 6.96". Some of the SW ships are similar in size and were/are priced $20-30. That's why I said $30-35. There's also the rerelease options with different guns (M41, M68, Rocket Turret), paint jobs (regular, arctic, custom), clean/dirty deco, snap-on troop transport carriages, etc.
Also, if you want to toss in a figure, you'll already have the Marine and Spartan bodies, and Todd surely had his head scanned at the various RealScan events he's attended (NASCAR, NHL, etc.).

[Guyson]

Between $30 to $40, depending on the quality and details.

[MarioBro7]

$35-$40
Now I guess this might be confirmation?
I love you Joe!

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

if a Mongoose w/ a figure is $20-25 I'd be willing to pay $40-50 for a Warthog. I'd probably be down for 2 of them.

[apple]

if they are trying to sell the legendary figures for 29.99 I do not think they will be selling this thing for anything less than $45.

[RaoulOD]

$30-40. And it had better be able to stand up to being driven into a wall or off a counter. With a swivel turret, suspension, and rubber tires. It should be the ultimate Warthog, and the single greatest thing you guys have ever made. EVER.

Oh, plus a driver fig would rock, but if it means you can pack more awesome into the hog, then you can ditch it.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

if they are trying to sell the legendary figures for 29.99 I do not think they will be selling this thing for anything less than $45.

they aren't trying to sell Legendary for $29.99

they have those in stock in the store for $19.99

[leetshoe]

35 if the turret can be replaced with a gauss turret or a LAAG turret

[jts21]

$30-$40 seems like a fair price to me.

[bborst]

they aren't trying to sell Legendary for $29.99

they have those in stock in the store for $19.99And this is for the regular 4" series. How would you possibly fit a pre-posed Legendary Spartan in a Warthog? Answer: You don't.

[pinoytragedy]

30-45 bucks easily.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

And this is for the regular 4" series. How would you possibly fit a pre-posed Legendary Spartan in a Warthog? Answer: You don't.

did I make any assertion that you could?

[Laird]

$40, I'd also like to see different turrets.(LAGG, Gauss, Rocket).

[djdspartan]

$20-$35 easly. So I guess Mcfarlane is making at warthog now....

agreed 25 -35$ seems fair. dosent need a figure though.:)

what is the price for the upcoming mongoose?

[djdspartan]

35 if the turret can be replaced with a gauss turret or a LAAG turret
whats the LAAG turret:confused:

[bborst]

did I make any assertion that you could?I was adding to your comment, not correcting you.

[Uwe]

I'd pay whatever the cheapest price possible is.

[Fdmatt]

I say you go all out make it the best quality you can and I'm guessing the majority of the community will snag it.

[Viking Spawn]

I'd say $35-$45 is fair.

But if you include an exclusive figure with it.... $45+

And yes, I will buy at least 2 no matter what! ;)

[ralph427]

Somewhere between $30 and $40.

[frymasterak]

I dont collect Halo so make it 100 bucks.

[Peter Hoffman]

If I were a Halo fan, I'd pay up to $50 CDN for it. I don't think a lot of people quite realize how big an in-scale vehicle would be.

[FlareKnight95]

$40 Suspension and 1 figure
Because suspension what makes the warthog the 'hog.

[EL WOLF O]

no more than 40 50 would be pushing it! If you guys did this it would sell like crazy cuz ive dreamed and i know other fans have too of a hog in scale to the MC.

[InnerRayg]

I think it's hilarious seeing people suggesting a $25 Warthog. Guys, this is just not physically possible. You do not realize how big this vehicle would be to scale. It would put the Hunter to shame.
My ideal would be $35, but I would not turn down a Hog for $40-45. Once you start getting into the 50s I just do not think I could handle it. And please. PLEASE. DO NOT include a figure in it, because this needlessly jacks up the price. We'll buy a damn Chief to put into the Warthog, we don't need another one.


Also Joe, I'm going to post this on HBO, the definitive source for Halo News, and see what non-collectors say about this.

[Saurian]

$30-$35, seeing as the mongoos eis only going for $20 right now, the warthogs larger size would up the price, if it came with a fig, $40, that sounds about right.

[Jeff Cope]

$25 - $35

I know a lot of folks on here are saying upwards of $40, but while that may sell to die-hard fans, I think more casual fans will pass on it at that price point.

Oh, if said hypothetical Warthog comes with a figure, please make it a Marine variant...not another Master Chief.

Jeff

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

I don't see how people can say a Warthog to scale would be SO HUGE. Going by the picture below, and the scale that the current Master Chief action figure is in, 5 inches, it would be safe to say that the Warthog would be no more than 6 inches high, and 6inches wide.. Lengthwise, I could see 10 inches. Thats not really huge.
http://branmonfsprostreet.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/halo-3-warthog-2.jpg

[Barry Sanders]

I'd believe 40-45 would be fair. It would have to be made with rubber tires and suspension. I'd definitly have to buy 2.

[The Wasp]

I think a starting price of $40 sounds good.

Agreed.

Now lets get serious here, Joe. no one wants a warthog for their 5 inch spartans.




....Their 12 inch Spartans....count me in :eek:

[InnerRayg]

I don't see how people can say a Warthog to scale would be SO HUGE. Going by the picture below, and the scale that the current Master Chief action figure is in, 5 inches, it would be safe to say that the Warthog would be no more than 6 inches high, and 6inches wide.. Lengthwise, I could see 10 inches. Thats not really huge.


Yes, it's not that -tall-, but according to measurements of the vehicle it's somewhere in the vicinity of 19 scale feet long-that puts it at just around 14 inches. 7.5 inches wide. Add to that all the features we will surely demand, the ability to steer, suspension, rubber tires, etc, it's sure to cost a pretty penny. I just can't see it for less than $30

Alright, I did a little number crunching on this. There were two basic assumptions:
1: The Chief is approximately as tall as the Warthog's frame, both of which is equal to 84 inches or 7 feet.
2: A 5-inch scale Hog would use the same proportions as the mini one produced earlier.

So the small one is about 4.12 inches long, 1.93 inches wide, and 1.43 inches tall not including the turret. This means that our scale factor is 1.43 inches/84 inches, or 1.7%. This makes the real world size of the Vehicle:
20.2 feet long, 9.4 feet wide, and 7 feet tall (Obviously I'm rounding everything for reader benefit, but you get the idea)
(13 feet with turret)

Now let's reverse engineer it for the 5 inch scale. That's 5 inches/84 inches, or 5.95%
That gives us a toy about 14.4 inches long, 6.7 inches wide, and 5 inches tall. 9.5 inches tall with turret.

So, yeah, something like that.

God I'm a nerd.

[allstar]

i would go as high as 35-40, but the gun has to be able to be held by the Spartans and removable. :D

[InnerRayg]

i would go as high as 35-40, but the gun has to be able to be held by the Spartans and removable. :D

I wouldn't count on the gun part, that's not even possible in the game.

[allstar]

its been a while since i played halo 3, i just remebered that those guns were removeable in other areas. but unfortunately, not from the warthog as i now recall. still, i want a spartan to fit on the back to fire.

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

Yes, it's not that -tall-, but according to measurements of the vehicle it's somewhere in the vicinity of 19 scale feet long-that puts it at just around 14 inches. 7.5 inches wide. Add to that all the features we will surely demand, the ability to steer, suspension, rubber tires, etc, it's sure to cost a pretty penny. I just can't see it for less than $30

Alright, I did a little number crunching on this. There were two basic assumptions:
1: The Chief is approximately as tall as the Warthog's frame, both of which is equal to 84 inches or 7 feet.
2: A 5-inch scale Hog would use the same proportions as the mini one produced earlier.

So the small one is about 4.12 inches long, 1.93 inches wide, and 1.43 inches tall not including the turret. This means that our scale factor is 1.43 inches/84 inches, or 1.7%. This makes the real world size of the Vehicle:
20.2 feet long, 9.4 feet wide, and 7 feet tall (Obviously I'm rounding everything for reader benefit, but you get the idea)
(13 feet with turret)

Now let's reverse engineer it for the 5 inch scale. That's 5 inches/84 inches, or 5.95%
That gives us a toy about 14.4 inches long, 6.7 inches wide, and 5 inches tall. 9.5 inches tall with turret.

So, yeah, something like that.

God I'm a nerd.

Good going, dude. You're a better man than me for working all that out. I was playing it by the eye.

[bluemax151]

Large GI Joe Vehicles at Target like the Rattler and Conquest are $24.99 I would expect a Warthog for around this price or slightly more (like in the 29.99 to 34.99 range) if it includes a figure. If the included figure is a generic spartan or Master Chief I will only buy one but if it is a Marine (sans backpack) with a new skin tone and/or head sculpt different from the single card release I will buy possibly 2 or 3. I also expect a grenade, sidearm and some sort of rifle/smg/etc to be included with the figure.

[InnerRayg]

Large GI Joe Vehicles at Target like the Rattler and Conquest are $24.99 I would expect a Warthog for around this price or slightly more (like in the 29.99 to 34.99 range) if it includes a figure. If the included figure is a generic spartan or Master Chief I will only buy one but if it is a Marine (sans backpack) with a new skin tone and/or head sculpt different from the single card release I will buy possibly 2 or 3. I also expect a grenade, sidearm and some sort of rifle/smg/etc to be included with the figure.

But the GI Joe Vehicles are nowhere near the same in quality regarding paint jobs, and have a much wider distribution.

It'd be nice if we could see what kind of ballpark figures McFarlane would expect on this figure though, so we could have a better grip on the conversation. Is anything below 30 even feasible, or what?

[bluemax151]

But the GI Joe Vehicles are nowhere near the same in quality regarding paint jobs, and have a much wider distribution.
The Rattler and Conquest are Target exclusives so it is arguable whether their distribution is greater or not.

McFarlane will face a great challenge convincing Toy retailers that vehicles at higher price points will be good/great sellers. Hasbro has been facing this problem with the Jo line themselves.

[the new arby]

30

[moo cow jr]

I'd say about $30-35 sounds reasonable for a warthog, but it has to be quality. And should also have:
-Rubber wheels
-Metal Axles
-Moving Turret
-Working Steering Wheel?

[Bryan316]

Yes, it's not that -tall-, but according to measurements of the vehicle it's somewhere in the vicinity of 19 scale feet long-that puts it at just around 14 inches. 7.5 inches wide. Add to that all the features we will surely demand, the ability to steer, suspension, rubber tires, etc, it's sure to cost a pretty penny. I just can't see it for less than $30

Alright, I did a little number crunching on this. There were two basic assumptions:
1: The Chief is approximately as tall as the Warthog's frame, both of which is equal to 84 inches or 7 feet.
2: A 5-inch scale Hog would use the same proportions as the mini one produced earlier.

So the small one is about 4.12 inches long, 1.93 inches wide, and 1.43 inches tall not including the turret. This means that our scale factor is 1.43 inches/84 inches, or 1.7%. This makes the real world size of the Vehicle:
20.2 feet long, 9.4 feet wide, and 7 feet tall (Obviously I'm rounding everything for reader benefit, but you get the idea)
(13 feet with turret)

Now let's reverse engineer it for the 5 inch scale. That's 5 inches/84 inches, or 5.95%
That gives us a toy about 14.4 inches long, 6.7 inches wide, and 5 inches tall. 9.5 inches tall with turret.

So, yeah, something like that.

God I'm a nerd.Hey, thanks for doing what I already did back in Post 37.

[Sweetshot23]

Bungie already made one. The Civilian Hog and the battle damage civilian hog. Have both. Will post pictures later. Only one of eight cases.

[Speir]

$ 40 seems fair. I would buy a couple at that price.

[Peter Hoffman]

Some of the features you guys are expecting would probably drive the price upwards of $100.

[frymasterak]

You all know youd pay whatever they asked for one.

[whiplash101]

I would prefer thevehicles to not include a figure because I don't want multiples of the same guy and it woupd b
e less expensive that way. I'd gladly pay 30 for a nice warthog.

[Legoguy76]

I would say under $50 max....and there should be great quality and care gone into it. Working suspension doesn't sound out of the question, nor does different weapons. Rubber tires would be nice but only if it stays under 50 bucks. Add a fig? I honestly have enough spartans to fill a small motor pool of warthogs so unless it's exclusive to the hog, don't bother(I don't need another chief). Keep the interior fairly detailed. I guess GI JOE or the 1:18 BBI elite force stuff would be decent enough interiors to go by.

I am also offering up my services to give you impressions of the prototype...should you choose to make these. =)

-John the Legoguy

[Desolation33]

My maximum would be $40.

[InnerRayg]

Hey, thanks for doing what I already did back in Post 37.

Hey, thanks for doing what I already did
Two weeks ago (http://board.spawn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9339419&postcount=29)

Besides, a little independent verification never hurt nobody.

[K9Rod]

I would buy one for sure for $30.

I don't think a figure should be included. Some people might not want it and it might take it out of the price range of what they can afford.

The Warthog is my favorite tool/weapon to use on HALO 3 so this is the best news I've heard in a long time.

Thanks

[FACEBOX]

$30-$40.
I'd imagine it would use the same amount of material as the 12" Spartans, so a price in that range is easily justified.

"If you build it...they will come". ;)

Hasbro has been doing it with their SW & G.I.Joe lines for years, so the proof is out there that these would sell well. Especially with the strong fan-base that Halo line has.

Furthermore, there are many variants that can be made (personnel carrier/turret/cannon/civilian), and there's even the possibility of a GOLD Warthog via HALO-Points.

Besides... I won't be able to sleep without at least 2. :D

So....please tell Todd....YES!

[SoulRedeemer]

I'd give my first born. So I would expect a Warthog of "Bentley" qualities. :p

Yeah, I'd fork out $30+ dollars for a Warthog, even if it required some building.

[Gonzo22]

$40 barebones w/ only steering, working suspension, rubber tires and M41 Light Anti-Aircraft Gun (non-removeable)

$45-$50 with:
* Marine driver (Can use standard release to keep down costs. Fans can never have enough of these guys. Plus kinda hard to sell a scale vehicle without an included figure.)

* Two interchangable turrets: M41 Light Anti-Aircraft Gun and M68 Gauss Cannon. While not removeable in the game, this does give fans the option of two Warthog variants AND fills the need for a machine gun that the figures can use. Gotta have my M41 soon:) Of course McFarlane could always milk fans for all they are worth and release TWO distinct models, one with machine gun and one with Gauss Cannon. I prefer my first option:)

* Steering and working suspension

* Real rubber tires

[w00tiness]

Whatever it takes.

[penutbuttrbandt]

have you guys ever looked at the understructure of the warthog in game...each wheel has a motor that drives it that is connected to an indepentdent drive arm...for any steering to work on this toy...it would be nearly impossobile if you wanted function suspension...i say drop the steering cause who is really going to drive this thing around...and give functional suspension

[swedishguitarhero2]

I'd do anything. If it came with a figure, that would be nice. 20.00 - 25.00 dollars

[Gonzo22]

I think what folks mean by steering, at least I do, is having the 'lil tires move side to side. Suspension - bounces up and down. Ain't talking about building an exact working replica of the Warthog:)

[Optronix]

Just wondering Joe what exactly are you guys thinking you will charge?

I would say for no extra figures in package, 30 would be great. With figures 35 to 40. I would gladly play that amount for two worthogs of each version, so thats what, 240 for me to get each worthog. Anyway I would prefer to see this on my worthogs,
Turrets that turn, wheels that can be turned by hand, moveable steering wheel. Working shocks would be a nice bonus. Also please please make sure that spartans, elites and marines/odst's can fit easily inside the seats and not look like they have a stick up there ass. Maybe a type of adjustable seat would work, changes height based on the figure in it, so it would be much lower for an elite, or spartan than a marine. And all seats need to be this way if you can do something like that.

As for extra figures I would suggest an ODST or Marine and the marine should have a different face sculpt, and if you give us two small figures like two marines, then two different face sculpts. And if the turret spins it has to be able to go up and down. One other thing, how about a stand like the small worthog has for posing it in crazy jumps or flips, I would suggest this with all vehicles that can go airborn, oh and a look at the engine would be nice too.

[Sanghelli]

$40.

[Ithilin]

35 easy, but I wouldn't mind spending upwards of that if its well done (completist in me says I'll buy it anyway so balls to that I guess!)

[Agent Stone]

I would pay $35-$40 without a figure. I would expect better quality product for that amount. I would even pay $50 if the quality is done right. I need my vehicles to handle a little play.

[apple]

remember, they did this for Ed-209 also and we got nothing from it.

[mechamappy]

$35- $40 would be my suggestion.

[MysticAirBender]

Make it 40ish and have the quality be there to match . This is what would bring me back to the halo line :D

[IceRool]

If it were alone and nothing more than a statue with little to no moving parts, then the max I would go would be $20. I don't really seeing it being much bigger (other than width) than the Movie Masters Batpod.

I'd be willing to pay about $35-40 by itself though if it had rubber tires, decent working suspension and interchangeable turrets that both can turn along with articulation to raise/lower.

[ingencorp]

$35-$40 with the features everyone seems to be mentioning.

[Kabong30]

Bungie already made one. The Civilian Hog and the battle damage civilian hog. Have both. Will post pictures later. Only one of eight cases.

Bungie didn't make them, Joyride did. And they aren't in scale with the figs, that's kinda the point.

[InnerRayg]

FYI, people on HBO are asking for around $45, but they want a crapload of features. Everything everyone here is asking for and sometimes more.
http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=909125

[Mongerty]

I would pay $50, and probably go higher if even some of the features being tossed around were included.

[burngwngs]

Yeah, I'd say $30 or $35 or so with a figure.

[Dynamic]

$35 with/tax . Hard to say without seeing it .

[Freaksinraincoats13]

£25-40, if it came with some figures and accessories then £50 max.

[sgoasa]

Depends on the features, but it would be good for $25.....

[I Ace I]

Depends how durable it is, the material it's made of, and so forth. I'd say around $30, because you know all these stores will jack the price up to 50 easy. Oh and e-bay hawkers will sell it for a minimum of 100.

[Kabong30]

How about $50K and you make it 1:1 scale and fully operational?

[InnerRayg]

How about $50K and you make it 1:1 scale and fully operational?

Done (http://www.gearcritech.com/images2/2007.07/update20_warthog2.jpg)

What do you think?

[Kabong30]

Done (http://www.gearcritech.com/images2/2007.07/update20_warthog2.jpg)

What do you think?

Now I just need a 1:1 MC on that gun so I can drive in the HOV lane.

[bborst]

Now I just need a 1:1 MC on that gun so I can drive in the HOV lane.http://www.anytimecostumes.com/ecommerce/control/product/~product_id=0035A909904 DONE.

[Rosalie]

30 euros :P

[FACEBOX]

So, based off of our responces...will it happen?
I sure hope so!



(Scale ref. Actionclix)
http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/halo_actionclix_warthog.jpg

[Sanghelli]

That ActionClix Warthog looks like it's too big.

[InnerRayg]

That ActionClix Warthog looks like it's too big.

Probably slightly too tall, but it's not a big deal.

[Sanghelli]

Probably slightly too tall, but it's not a big deal.

Maybe that's it. I'll try and take a screenshot later.

[Mongerty]

I want to say that the Halo 3 Warthog was bigger than the first two....something I noticed in the Beta.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/cmontyx49/60439665-Full.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/cmontyx49/60439631-Full.jpg

Here are some pics.

[Sanghelli]

Haha, I went and took some pics too. :D
http://i37.tinypic.com/2cxhn2v.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/358ykp5.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/6tn2o0.jpg

[InnerRayg]

It looks to me like the Hog is pretty much about the size we've talked about earlier-if the Spartans stood straight up they'd be about as tall as the chassis, verifying several of the scale figures we've come up with earlier in the topic.


It'd be nice to get some feedback on this topic from the company. Of course, I don't understand why this wasn't made into a poll, be a lot easier to analyze.

[pain killer]

$40-$50 wouldn't be unreasonable, depending on what we'd be getting: rubber tires? suspension? articulated turret? etc.

i'm not even your target market; i only own MC and some grunts, with no interest in anything else the line may offer. even so, i think $50 for a quality vehicle could be fair.

[pinoytragedy]

When well, this warthog be released?

[Spawnomite]

When well, this warthog be released?From Tyler J. Post #26.

Keep in mind boys and girls, this isn't anything than a question. We aren't saying we are, or aren't going to do the Warthog, we are just considering it. With price being a very large part of that consideration.

Again- your feedback is always appreciated.

[the new arby]

40 dollars

[frymasterak]

Your all low balling, TMP is too afraid to make it now ... hope your happy.

[oldboy26]

$30, unless the quality is mint(real paint,intense detail, scales to figures realistically and can put figures in vehicle comfortably) then i could go for $40 easily.

[InnerRayg]

Your all low balling, TMP is too afraid to make it now ... hope your happy.

Why? This thing would not be that terribly expensive to produce. If they're looking for $70-100 kind of stuff then what they need to start producing is some scale Tanks.

[Mongerty]

I don't understand why people are saying that they will spend a certain amount only if it is quality.....This is McFarlane, and I am sure the quality will be in line with the rest of the products they release.. I stand by my 50 dollar claim.

[InnerRayg]

I don't understand why people are saying that they will spend a certain amount only if it is quality.....This is McFarlane, and I am sure the quality will be in line with the rest of the products they release.. I stand by my 50 dollar claim.

Man, go to $40, you gonna screw us up :P

I think we're all just trying to give ourselves the options of backing out of it if there's something about it not to our liking.

Like including some Spartan recolor.

[bluemax151]

It might be a good idea for McFarlane to do some research into BBI's Elite Force Vehicles. They have some fairly large vehicles in the line even if they are only 1/18 scale and are of higher detail than the Joe line generally.

[Agent Stone]

I don't see how people can say a Warthog to scale would be SO HUGE. Going by the picture below, and the scale that the current Master Chief action figure is in, 5 inches, it would be safe to say that the Warthog would be no more than 6 inches high, and 6inches wide.. Lengthwise, I could see 10 inches. Thats not really huge.
http://branmonfsprostreet.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/halo-3-warthog-2.jpg
You also have to factor in package size. It does cost more to ship bigger packages. I hope the stores display them for sale so i can find them!

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Your all low balling, TMP is too afraid to make it now ... hope your happy.

so what exactly do you think the price should be?

[Spawnomite]

Your all low balling, TMP is too afraid to make it now ... hope your happy.You're

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

You also have to factor in package size. It does cost more to ship bigger packages. I hope the stores display them for sale so i can find them!

Package size shouldn't be an issue. Look at how Mattel handled the MM Bat-pod; it wasn't a huge box, and it was secured in place with plastic ties.

[Uwe]

You're
mom.

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

mom.

is very.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Package size shouldn't be an issue. Look at how Mattel handled the MM Bat-pod; it wasn't a huge box, and it was secured in place with plastic ties.

but at the same time, it's super flimsy

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

but at the same time, it's super flimsy

True that.

[Sanghelli]

Package size shouldn't be an issue.

It's not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean.. right? :D

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

It's not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean.. right? :D

Meh, thats just something nice girls say to make the uh, lesser endowed fella's feel better about their "inadequecies". ;):D

[freezowave1978]

30-40

[Optronix]

Keep in mind boys and girls, this isn't anything than a question. We aren't saying we are, or aren't going to do the Warthog, we are just considering it. With price being a very large part of that consideration.

Again- your feedback is always appreciated.

I'm sorry I mean no offense but I hate answers like this, why bother asking or making a thread that essentially teases us if your going to post a 50/50 answer. I agree with Innerrayg why are you not making this a poll, and how about some answers on what you are considering, cause with the more this threads page count grows the more the thread will be ignored.

[Mongerty]

They are simply researching something. They don't want to promise something that might not happen.

I am grateful that they are sharing with us the fact that they are considering making one. They don't really HAVE to tell us anything.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

we get no info, they get lambasted. we don't get directly asked about our input for something that we want that they might make and they get lambasted. we get asked directly about our input about something we want and they might make and they get lambasted.

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't. :rolleyes:

[Jin-Saotome]

Hmmmm... First let's look at it from a business standpoint.

Point #1:
Pushing the vehicle. You need to make the Warthog attractive to retailers first because fans will purchase it regardless. The biggest decision would be to decide if it's a good idea to add a figure to it like the GI Joe vehicle packs do now. Retailers use to like playsets/vehicles that 'do stuff' to help sell a figure line. However the current trend for figure lines right now is just to sell the main character(s) themselves with their logos/faces plastered across the packages. Seeing an included character that people recognize is very important to retailers but adding one will obviously drive the price up. Can you pitch the warthog to Walmart just by itself when they're selling tons of smaller, GI Joe vehicles with included drivers for cheaper?

Point #2:
Size/construction. To make it truly in scale with the figures the warthog is going to be big. Check the picture below. See how tall it is? And look at the scale of the Spartan manning the turret. The thing is huge!

http://www.angelfire.com/mech/jinsaotome/Warthogscale.jpg

This means it's going to be at least a foot long or larger, far bigger than any of the Joe/Star Wars vehicles out right now. To look right with the figures it's going to need a lot of parts, paint apps, and types of materials used (metal, abs, pvc, etc) The turret will need to rotate/raise and the wheels of course need to spin. Realistically any price under $35 isn't going to be worth your while. To make it a true collector-quality vehicle (and not some unpainted/quickie like Joe/Star Wars) the price is going to have to be $35-$45. It's going to be the size of a Transformers Leader class figure and those are a straight $40.

Point #3.
Multiple purchases from the same collector. Is this even a consideration, the quantity sold? While I'd love to have two or three warthogs.. where am I going to put them? Realistically I'm only going to have room for one large vehicle like this. At $40, that's a basic one-warthog-purchase-for-collection. It'll take up a lot of room on my shelf or in my display case and hold 3 figures comfortably, probably 7 if you have them hanging on the rails or cramped on the turret platform. Honestly, one of these will accomodate the general halo collector. If it sells well then you can always do a battle-damaged one or additional colors.

So in the end you're looking at a very large vehicle that has to be pitched to retailers and still fit in to the budget of the general collector. $45 is a realistic price but $39 would look better to the customer and the retailer, especially in this economy. MAKE IT NOW if you're going to while gas is cheap and people have disposable income to blow. Once it costs $4 a gallon to travel back and forth to work again you won't be selling any large expensive Warthogs.

[w00tiness]

That's a marine on the turret, slightly smaller scale.

[FACEBOX]

This is torture.
The McF team should know by now, that if they make it...we will buy it.
The price might simply mean that maybe we won't be army building with these babies.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Hmmmm... First let's look at it from a business standpoint.

that's not from a business standpoint. it's a consumer's standpoint on what they think the business standpoint is. if you were really considering this from a business standpoint you'd be talking about MSRP, retail trade allowances, wholesale cost and margin in addition.

you'd be looking at whether to go premium or push volume and the effect that might have the cost structure and the resulting impact on price to the consumer and also which retail locations are the best match for each approach.

the parts you highlight about the consumer side are great marketing points, but don't confuse that with looking at it from a business standpoint. That's only one part of the equation.

you say that $45 is more realistic while $39 looks better to the retailer and the consumer, but that's not necessarily the case. that will depend on which retailers you're talking about, what they're getting in terms of wholesale cost / volume discount / trade allowance / promotional allowances and whether that creates a scenario where $39 gives them the kind of volume to make it worth their times when the market show that they can buy a few less and make more money pricing them at $45.

So, on the one hand they have to be confident that the inventory will turn in a reasonable amount of time, and considering the size, they don't want a lot of units sitting on the shelves and/or in the back taking up space, pushing up overhead and forcing them to liquidate back into wholesale. On the other, they have to be confident that this product will give them an attractive ROI. Because for retail, afterall, inventory is a short-term investment.

and even then we're still only looking at part of the picture combining our two little essays

but rather than continue to try to do that let's just do what they asked us to do... and post up what we're willing to pay. not what we expect to pay. but what we're realistically willing to pay and feel is a fair price.

[GruntOfAction]

Joe I hope you guys are still making that Mongoose...I'd pay $30 for a warthog without anybody in it though.

I'd love to see a limited edition Transport Hog though. (The one in Campaign that holds 3 marines in the back.

[whiplash101]

the other thing they have to consider is not only how this single item sells, but how this helps the entire halo mcfarlane line. People are only going to buy the single repainted spartans for so long without some new products mixed in to extend the life of their existing figures. im already burned out from the same exact figures in every series, just repainted. I want some new accessories to add to the dozens of spartans that i have. this will extend the life of the whole series by coming out with new products such as vehicles, weapon packs, turrets and such. If you look at the big picture this is a great idea, even if they dont make a killing off of this one item individually. And as for people not buying more than one? While im not an army builder, and i generally dont buy more than one figure, I plan on buying AT LEAST 2-3 warthogs and 3-4 mongooses to accomodate my spartans. I dont have a ton of space for large figures but these are gonna be so cool I will just have a battlefield right on the floor of my collection room. I really hope that the warthog, mongoose and other vehicles make it to the marketplace this coming year.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

you make a few excellent points

[GruntOfAction]

the other thing they have to consider is not only how this single item sells, but how this helps the entire halo mcfarlane line. People are only going to buy the single repainted spartans for so long without some new products mixed in to extend the life of their existing figures. im already burned out from the same exact figures in every series, just repainted. I want some new accessories to add to the dozens of spartans that i have. this will extend the life of the whole series by coming out with new products such as vehicles, weapon packs, turrets and such. If you look at the big picture this is a great idea, even if they dont make a killing off of this one item individually. And as for people not buying more than one? While im not an army builder, and i generally dont buy more than one figure, I plan on buying AT LEAST 2-3 warthogs and 3-4 mongooses to accomodate my spartans. I dont have a ton of space for large figures but these are gonna be so cool I will just have a battlefield right on the floor of my collection room. I really hope that the warthog, mongoose and other vehicles make it to the marketplace this coming year.

Well the Mongoose is coming sometime next year. Nobody knows when though.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

according to Joe, it's set for a July release

[Jin-Saotome]

that's not from a business standpoint. it's a consumer's standpoint on what they think the business standpoint is. if you were really considering this from a business standpoint you'd be talking about MSRP, retail trade allowances, wholesale cost and margin in addition.

you'd be looking at whether to go premium or push volume and the effect that might have the cost structure and the resulting impact on price to the consumer and also which retail locations are the best match for each approach.

the parts you highlight about the consumer side are great marketing points, but don't confuse that with looking at it from a business standpoint. That's only one part of the equation.

you say that $45 is more realistic while $39 looks better to the retailer and the consumer, but that's not necessarily the case. that will depend on which retailers you're talking about, what they're getting in terms of wholesale cost / volume discount / trade allowance / promotional allowances and whether that creates a scenario where $39 gives them the kind of volume to make it worth their times when the market show that they can buy a few less and make more money pricing them at $45.

So, on the one hand they have to be confident that the inventory will turn in a reasonable amount of time, and considering the size, they don't want a lot of units sitting on the shelves and/or in the back taking up space, pushing up overhead and forcing them to liquidate back into wholesale. On the other, they have to be confident that this product will give them an attractive ROI. Because for retail, afterall, inventory is a short-term investment.

and even then we're still only looking at part of the picture combining our two little essays

but rather than continue to try to do that let's just do what they asked us to do... and post up what we're willing to pay. not what we expect to pay. but what we're realistically willing to pay and feel is a fair price.

You do realize we're basically only talking about Toys R Us, Walmart, and -maybe- Hot Topic right? KB is going out of business and come to think of it Toys R Us has an 8 billion debt so who knows what'll happen to them if their Christmas sales projections aren't on target. And speaking of Target, they don't even carry Halo (we still don't have any word why right?) so the main model you're going to be looking at is going to be selling them through WalMart.

You can't push volume in a vehicle unless it's 1:18 scale Joe/SW stuff. Otherwise they take up too much space on the shelf and you end up with the $160 Falcon marked down to $99 because they can't sell them. I'm sure you know retailers are super picky about how much shelf space something takes up. Already they've moved Halo Legendary down to the bottom shelf at Walmart locations. I didn't even see them until I made two passes through the figure isle and if a diehard Halo collector can miss them on the shelf.. that's bad. Warthogs will end up in the same place.

And while I like it that Spawn toys asked us how much we'd be willing to pay, we're still going to pay whatever they decide for at least one Warthog. We're all collectors and have been waiting for this vehicle. We're not mothers strolling down the isle with a kid in the cart/tagging along behind us pointing "Ooh ooh, a warthog!" Retailers still believe that only mothers and kids shop the toy isle and that's reaffirmed after listening to Todd speak in the G4 interview. Sucks for them, you can't just make collector-only stuff and expect to sell it these days. All the hip specialty shops are gone save for Hot Topic and Spencers, both of which have all but eliminated their figure selection.

I'm willing to pay $45 for a Warthog. And at that size and price combined one is just fine for me.

[InnerRayg]

What if they focused on online dealers for the Warthog? How does that affect it?

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

What if they focused on online dealers for the Warthog? How does that affect it?

I could see the price being significantly higher.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I really think you're missing the point, Jin. I'd love to fight you on this, but I think it will go about as well as that time you said that retailers wouldn't think twice about eliminating the toy section to fill it up with more video games, which was another example of how you get it sometimes and totally miss the boat the majority of the time.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

What if they focused on online dealers for the Warthog? How does that affect it?

it's a possiblity. but why not throw TRU in with Amazon, Spawntoys, EE, BBTS, CSC/Amazingtoyz, ClarkToys and the gang?

another online, but with a legitimate national brick and mortar presence. I'm not as pessimistic about their future as Jin is since they're finally embracing the notion that they need to compete with WM not on volume and price but on selection and availablity

[Average Dude]

My cousin and i each say $40-50.

[Jin-Saotome]

I really think you're missing the point, Jin. I'd love to fight you on this, but I think it will go about as well as that time you said that retailers wouldn't think twice about eliminating the toy section to fill it up with more video games, which was another example of how you get it sometimes and totally miss the boat the majority of the time.
Hang on, you still believe that Walmart wouldn't bulldoze their action figure section over if it meant doubling the video game sales? You are out to lunch here. The action figure industry is expendable and retailers/toy companies know it. It's been on the horizon for years.

Now while this is my ultimate dread and would crush my dreams... When, not if, China's wage determination/cost of living rises to a certain level they will no longer be able to make us a pair of flip-flops for 25 cents. It's already started, their advancement in economic status and other factors will raise the cost of whatever they produce. You'll see action figures rise to $15 on average, $19, and then poof, Walmart and all the big retailers pull the plug and you won't have any more plastic toys for your shelf. I couldn't pay you 20 cents an hour to breath toxic fumes and put together my Halo figure right? It'll get that way in China and we won't have anywhere to turn to for 'affordable' action figures.

Name me one mass-market action figure (not Playmobile/lego stuff, action figures like TMNT and Halo) that's made anywhere other than China. Mexico? No. Japan? Certainly not, tho a lot of things USE to be made there. What happened? Same thing that's happening in China. Their economic status is advancing and soon they'll be right in line with us with minimum wage at eight bucks an hour.

[Optronix]

I kinda disagree, the toy industry has grown in the last few years. Over the last ten toy companys have really started to cater to collectors, and as for walmart getting rid of the toy dept that won't happen, they may make is smaller as toy sales may decrease and toys may not be produced as much until the economy rebounds.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

you're getting off track again, Jin and I think I'll take this convo to a new thread

http://board.spawn.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9405587

[MandoMan531]

Finally im able to post, stupid hotmail.

I would seriously buy at least 2 Warthogs, maybe 4 so i can paint one or two of them in the Snowbound Arctic paint scheme. I already have 2 Mongoose Box Sets preordered and will probably buy 2 more. A few things to keep in mind that id like to see included.

Working suspension (maybe even independent suspension) and rubber tires is a MUST.
Wheels steer (remember the 'hog has 4 wheel steering), preferrably not linked to the steering wheel as those links always break - Must.
Possibly interchangeable turret between the LAAG and Gauss Cannon. Maybe even remove the turret and have a snap on Transport Hog cage and seats.
Articulated Turret is a MUST.
no need for a viewable engine, however one removeable panel over the orange/yellow "fuel cell" would be cool but not terribly
important. If youve played the game you now what i mean.

Id easily pay 40-60 dollars for a a hog with this stuff included. however if its going to be a run of the mill vehicle 30 bucks is fair.

And PLEASE consider a Ghost, Hornet, and Banshee, pretty pretty please. Id love to see a Scorpion but i dont see it happening.

[FACEBOX]

Welcome Mando.

I agree with your last statement...... more vehicles please.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/HALO/3298372-Medium.jpg

[InnerRayg]

Welcome Mando.

I agree with your last statement...... more vehicles please.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/HALO/3298372-Medium.jpg

Let's worry about getting one vehicle before we worry about getting more.

[FACEBOX]

The Mongoose is a vehicle, and that's already been green-lit.
The Hog is another...aka more. ;)

[djdspartan]

if the hornet was to be a 2010 product i would probally only get the mongoose and the hornet, maily because of space and that i would rather have 3 spartans and or elites flying to and from than another ground based vehicle, and plus the hornet is just cooler.

[InnerRayg]

The Mongoose is a vehicle, and that's already been green-lit.
The Hog is another...aka more. ;)

Yeah, there were a lot of things that were greenlit last year that we never saw either dude. I'm just saying. You can't start counting the toys before they hatch.

Wait.

I feel like a metaphor just got ruined somewhere. Oh well.

[w00tiness]

Yeah, there were a lot of things that were greenlit last year that we never saw either dude. I'm just saying. You can't start counting the toys before they hatch.

Wait.

I feel like a metaphor just got ruined somewhere. Oh well.

Some just got pushed back, like the hunter.

BAF Scorpion pleeease?

:D

[Average Dude]

I don't see why the McFarlane staff needs to even think about making a Warthog. I mean all these people on this thread want it and are willing to pay like $40-50 or some people even more so I don't see why they don't just give it the green light. If they make it though and charge lets say...$50.00; I want it to have good articulation. So I mean I want the turret to be able to rotate, the wheels to rotate and spin and all and for spartans and Elites to be able to fit in it perfectly.

[InnerRayg]

I don't see why the McFarlane staff needs to even think about making a Warthog. I mean all these people on this thread want it and are willing to pay like $40-50 or some people even more so I don't see why they don't just give it the green light. If they make it though and charge lets say...$50.00; I want it to have good articulation. So I mean I want the turret to be able to rotate, the wheels to rotate and spin and all and for spartans and Elites to be able to fit in it perfectly.

They need to think about it because maybe it will cost something like $80 for them to even produce the things. Who knows, they've given us no further information on it, and if something like that's the case then they made a wise decision to ask beforehand instead of losing a buttload of cash on it.

[w00tiness]

And researching what we're willing to pay gives them an idea of what features they can afford to put in. If something like rubber tires drive the price above what people are willing to pay, they'd be plastic.

[HELLVERTZ]

$30 not more ;)

[Jim.]

I'll throw my 2 cents in and say $34.99 with or without figure.

[Ermac434]

Jin and AOC.s fights are 'amusing'

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I aim to 'please'

[w00tiness]

:p

[Ermac434]

rofl

[Peeping Tom]

$24.99

As a die cast collector. I can't see going higher for plastic.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

if this were full or even half die-cast, what would you be willing to spend?

[Peeping Tom]

probably $60 ,but at that point I wouldn't get it.

It would be kind of cool to have, but it would have to be at a price that would hit the impulse buyer in me.

[bluesparrow]

$40 barebones w/ only steering, working suspension, rubber tires and M41 Light Anti-Aircraft Gun (non-removeable)

$45-$50 with:
* Marine driver (Can use standard release to keep down costs. Fans can never have enough of these guys. Plus kinda hard to sell a scale vehicle without an included figure.)

* Two interchangable turrets: M41 Light Anti-Aircraft Gun and M68 Gauss Cannon. While not removeable in the game, this does give fans the option of two Warthog variants AND fills the need for a machine gun that the figures can use. Gotta have my M41 soon:) Of course McFarlane could always milk fans for all they are worth and release TWO distinct models, one with machine gun and one with Gauss Cannon. I prefer my first option:)

* Steering and working suspension

* Real rubber tires

Yeah those prices with the mentioned features sound about right to me. I'd buy one at $40 or less pretty much no matter what, higher than that I'd wait for a sale or it'd need to be especially high quality/come with pretty cool features.

I like the idea of pack-in figures, it's a cool little bonus when you get a vehicle with one, but if makes the price $10 higher I don't see the point.

[Mr.Sci-Fi]

They need to think about it because maybe it will cost something like $80 for them to even produce the things. Who knows, they've given us no further information on it, and if something like that's the case then they made a wise decision to ask beforehand instead of losing a buttload of cash on it.

Ok Now that's just crazy talk, 80 bucks. Even with licensing costs it would never be near that amount. Simply survey the toy aisles for toys of similar mass, quality and features for a more accurate cost/price. If hasblo can make a AT-TE to sell at a $100 or less and still make a profit after paying the lucas fee, MCF can make a worthog (something half the size) to sell for $50.

This really is not a gamble that MCF needs to take, I'm sure they could even secure adaquate prepaid preorders to make a run of them to match the order with a few extras left over. They could run it like Mattel and the heman line, build a prototype open the preorders up for 2 to 3 months, take the money( or a hefty deposit) and then deliver the product ASAP which is probably within a 3-6 month window. They could probably even offer some afterwards at a higher price to fill some of the demand by idiots who didn't preorder. As an extra little bonus preorders would get something a little extra like some small accessories.



For $50 I want a warthog with hard rubber tires, moving suspension (it doesn't need to be fancy), spining wheels, turning wheels (does not need to beable to be done by steering wheel) and one extra turret weapon that can be switchted out on the pivoting turret mount. I don't need a driver unless the regular troop and spartans can't sit in it properly.

If a warthog is made I would also hope withion 6 months or so we would get a repaint of it into a civilian HOG with the minor mold changes to be correct( IE new wheels, a spare in the back bed and few other small tweaks for correctness). .

[Meatwad]

35 tops

[w00tiness]

All right. I got a bit bored and decided to tabulate the results up to this post. Here are the results on what people are apparently willing to pay:

$25-30: 13 people
$30-35: 17 people
$35-40: 34 people
$40-45: 9 people
$45-50: 6 people
$50-55: 1 person
$55+: 2 people

Now here are a few notes:

- This is by no means 100% accurate, I can't tell what people are thinking when they say a number like $30. Does that mean they will spend a max of $30? Does that mean a reasonable price to start at is $30? I tried to categorize their thoughts based on what I believe they meant in their post.
- If people said they would pay a certain price for a warthog without a figure, and more for one with a figure I put their tally under what they would pay for a warthog without a figure.
- Some people posted amounts like $25-35. In these cases I put them in the $30-35 category.
- Some currencies like GBP and Euros were converted by me to USD. I left CAD alone and put our Canuck votes in a category as if they were USD. The difference between our two currencies isn't massive (though it could be better :mad:)

Enjoy.

[Viking Spawn]

All right. I got a bit bored and decided to tabulate the results up to this post. Here are the results on what people are apparently willing to pay:

$25-30: 13 people
$30-35: 17 people
$35-40: 34 people
$40-45: 9 people
$45-50: 6 people
$50-55: 1 person
$55+: 2 people

Now here are a few notes:

- This is by no means 100% accurate, I can't tell what people are thinking when they say a number like $30. Does that mean they will spend a max of $30? Does that mean a reasonable price to start at is $30? I tried to categorize their thoughts based on what I believe they meant in their post.
- If people said they would pay a certain price for a warthog without a figure, and more for one with a figure I put their tally under what they would pay for a warthog without a figure.
- Some people posted amounts like $25-35. In these cases I put them in the $30-35 category.
- Some currencies like GBP and Euros were converted by me to USD. I left CAD alone and put our Canuck votes in a category as if they were USD. The difference between our two currencies isn't massive (though it could be better :mad:)

Enjoy.


It will appear that the $40 range is the most likely and within reason. Nice tally on the numbers Wooty!

[FACEBOX]

Why not make the entire thing from rubber?
Tires spin, wheels + turret rotate/pivot. Seems plenty reasonable to me.

$29.99, like the Queen ALIEN and 12" Spartans is the best price IMO.

[LA SOMBRA]

$20

[Peter Hoffman]

Why not make the entire thing from rubber?
Tires spin, wheels + turret rotate/pivot. Seems plenty reasonable to me.

$29.99, like the Queen ALIEN and 12" Spartans is the best price IMO.

Why on earth would you make the entire thing out of rubber?

[FACEBOX]

Why on earth would you make the entire thing out of rubber?

Aren't the Spartans/Brutes/etc. made of rubber? (their heads/ hands/feet/armor) Why not do the same for the Warthog?

I think we might have different ideas on what rubber actually means.
Just so you know..... I didn't mean super soft rubber.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I believe that they're mostly plasticized PVC.

[FACEBOX]

I just want a decently priced Warthog. I don't really care what it made of.
Accuracy is my biggest priority.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Mine as well.

I'd even be willing to pay more for a Civilian Hog than a battle-ready Warthog if they tricked it out with some chrome ;) :D

[Mr.Sci-Fi]

Hopefully only chrome on the wheels, I wouldn't want to see a metal flake body, it wouldn't be right. A civilian version would need street tires and a spare in the back. They could do the variant civilian version with the regular warthog off road wheels and tires too.

If MCF wanted to go an extra step they could add working headlights and fog lights but if they went that far a light in the dash could illuminate the console too.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

and a working horn for those

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

While we're at, make it compatible with iPods! :rolleyes::p

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

excuse me, sir. but in the Halo universe, all portable media players are Zunes :rolleyes:

[w00tiness]

Be able to sync it with your 360 controller and actually drive it around!

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

excuse me, sir. but in the Halo universe, all portable media players are Zunes :rolleyes:

I prostrate myself before you and beg for your forgiveness. In Gates we trust!

[Mr.Sci-Fi]

http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/STUDENTS/Purdy/Gates_of_Borg.jpg

[kuwabara_kuwabara]

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, hee hee!

[FuzzyBlueDemon]

I'd think $25 to $30 would be good for this. I get the argument about it being a larger scale than Star Wars vehicles, but those are mostly giant space ships, not an SUV, which should still end up being smaller. That said, i would pay more if they brought the intricate design. turning rubber wheels are a must, but anything past that would be nice too. I have only really collected different Spartans in this line, with just a few cool looking bad guys, but a Warthog would really make me run out to the stores.

FBD

[Verde13]

Spawn

[OniGiri]

Even in-scale with the Spartans, I can't imagine the Warthog being that big, so maybe $30-40 without the bells-and-whistles, another $10-$15 with.

[Mr.Sci-Fi]

well the warthog is probably around the same mass as 8 spartans and we pay $10-15 each for those.

[bigwig]

Considering that the Hunter is 25, I'd say 30 w/o figs as long as the figs i have already can man the turret and sit in it.

[DemonCarnotaur]

As long as the quality were there, as in making that thing as detailed and as realistic as reasonably possible, I would say anywhere around 40. If it were to be a little more toy like with maybe a little less detail for its size then closer to 30. But I would really like to see a very nicely done and detailed one, maybe with some small pack in bonus, like a roadkill grunt just for laughs? =P More realistically it could come with a monitor figure, as in guilty spark as an exclusive bonus..

Short version: $40 give or take

[djdspartan]

30-35$ :)

[Spartan-516]

$30-45 Depending on what its features are. I do have a question on why everyone is hung up on rubber tires. I mean, if it spins, isn't that good enough? Or is it being rubber really that important? I've never bought a vehicle to go with really any of my figures before.

[InnerRayg]

$30-45 Depending on what its features are. I do have a question on why everyone is hung up on rubber tires. I mean, if it spins, isn't that good enough? Or is it being rubber really that important? I've never bought a vehicle to go with really any of my figures before.

Plastic wheels are tacky yo.

[Spartan-516]

Plastic wheels are tacky yo.

Like I said, I never bought a vehicle for a figure. I think the only one I ever head was a trailer for my Jarrasic Park guys, and I think that had plastic wheels. They work just fine, but... I guess the tires on my Hess trucks are better...I guess

[Bleep]

According to the screenshots the tires are clearly made of plastic, as is almost everything else in the Halo universe:

http://branmonfsprostreet.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/halo-3-warthog-2.jpg

[Spartan-516]

According to the screenshots the tires are clearly made of plastic, as is almost everything else in the Halo universe:

http://branmonfsprostreet.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/halo-3-warthog-2.jpg

But that's Halo 2, we're supposed to be looking at Halo 3

[Sanghelli]

Here's a couple H3 screenshots.
http://i42.tinypic.com/24f0gfc.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/35i3iv7.jpg

[Bleep]

So more of a matte finish to the plastic?

[Sanghelli]

So more of a matte finish to the plastic?

If it'd keep costs down a bit I could go for that. I was looking at the McFarlane mini-Warthog and it looks decent with plastic tires.

[Spartan-516]

As long as it's made, I don't care what the tires are :)

[Viking Spawn]

As long as it's made, I don't care what the tires are :)


I agree. I hope this happens!

[Legoguy76]

Maybe Joe will be kind enough to give us an update on this subject????? It's been a couple months now. I'm sure there has been at least one or two meetings about this?

[Mr.Sci-Fi]

Maybe around toyfair?

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Maybe Joe will be kind enough to give us an update on this subject????? It's been a couple months now. I'm sure there has been at least one or two meetings about this?

even if they have, prior to this we heard that 2010 was realistic to see this and maybe a Ghost. if that held true they would be so early in the game for this that there shouldn't be anything they could really update us with other than...

"we're looking into making one and it might be ready for next year"

[Spartan-516]

"we're looking into making one and it might be ready for next year"

I want to hear that

[Mongerty]

A simple "it has not been ruled out" or "the idea has been shot down" would suffice.

[Mr.Sci-Fi]

I can't see them not making one. With halo being probably 1/3 of what MCF sells how could you not produce the most iconic vehicle of the series? The follow up will need to be a banshee and then a scorpion.

[Bigsauce]

There's not many things I get excited for but when you said "Scorpion Tank" my butt puckered up alittle. I hadn't even thought of that. I don't care how much they cost, I would get a min of 4.

[Mr.Sci-Fi]

It came up because the Halo statue thread had the halo 3 Diorama linked in it and the dio has two scorpions in it. It got me thinking about scratch building one.

[Spartan-516]

Scorpion = death to all!

[McCheif]

It came up because the Halo statue thread had the halo 3 Diorama linked in it and the dio has two scorpions in it. It got me thinking about scratch building one.
you could kit-bash the tank from the WM CORPS line, its fairly close. At least a mini-scorpion,

[Mr.Sci-Fi]

Well with rapid prototyping so cheap right now if I took the time to build one in autocad or such I could probably get it printed for $250

[FACEBOX]

Oink oink...I want a hog!

[sonikk71]

I would be willing to pay around 40 ish if it was very detailed. I look at the previous joyride warthogs and I thought those were actually pretty good. SO any improvement on those would be a bonus.

[NightCreeper]

I don't collect the Halo figures anymore, but I think a $30-$50 price range is reasonable. If it is toward the $50 end, then it should come with a figure at least.

[Halo123]

I'd pay 50, assuming it was well detailed and came with a marine (or two, after all you do need a gunner)

[SteelSpartan]

$30 to $50 is a good range. Lower the better. But, if this has to go to the high end, I'm fine with that. The 12" Spartans are $40 retail and certainly have a lot of moving parts and weight. As long as this Warthog has a movable turret (perhaps a Gauss variant is in order...), rubber or rubber-ish wheels, wheels that can turn, and good detail, I'm in. Oh. And I want my Elites to be able to hop in for a ride, too.

Basically, I don't want to see a blown up version of the mini vehicle. The thing can't turn, and the turret is limited. And someone should figure out what to do about the antenna. It gets in the way.

Perhaps McFarlane should consider doing a limited release of a higher end Warthog (assuming pricing is an issue) on their website? Do a Collector's Club kind of sale. Maybe even give retailers a cheapo 'Hog?

Personally, the more vehicles the better in my opinion. I don't quite have the luxury of having dedicated shelves, so having vehicles would be a nice way to use as a display and a good way to stow away any of my extra figures. I really wait can't for the Mongooses to come out quicker (even though photos aren't up yet). If McFarlane made a transport 'Hog, that would be the ultimate storage container/vehicle for me.

[Viking Spawn]

Any word on the status of this? :confused:

[InnerRayg]

Any word on the status of this? :confused:

Official word is chill the frick out, even if it was made we wouldn't be seeing it till 2010.

[Halo123]

When is the marine figure due for release? I can't seem to find it on the website.

[Sanghelli]

When is the marine figure due for release? I can't seem to find it on the website.

We don't know. It's pushed back indefinitely.

[Halo123]

We don't know. It's pushed back indefinitely.

Seriously? I hope ur wrong :(

[Sanghelli]

Seriously? I hope ur wrong :(

This is the current Halo release schedule for the rest of the year: http://www.spawn.com/news/news6.aspx?id=13549

I was looking forward to the Marine figure too, but it doesn't look like we'll see him in '09.

[SPARTANC22]

if its good detail (working steering suspension made in a modular forum so i could take off the rear and switch for troop transport kinda thing or other gun for the turret wheels removable would like rubber tires but can handle plastic) comes with figure ill pay $50+