Official: NHL Trade Deadline Thread....4 days to go

[glove-save]

I thought I would start this thread as we are approaching the trade deadline:

I will post a few items from the various media outlets:

The Hit List

The National Hockey League's trading deadline is Wednesday, March 4 at 3pm et/Noon pt. Check out the list of players rumoured to be on the move as the zero hour approaches.
The Names

Jay Bouwmeester

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20090110/bouwmeester_sm_57922.jpg Team: Florida Panthers
Position: Defence
Age: 25
Contract Status: UFA on July 1
The Latest: Bouwmeester is key to the Panthers' playoff chances. But if he chooses the open market over a contract extension before March 4, the Panthers may not have a choice other than to throw up the for sale sign and let the bidding begin. He was not aware of any recent negotiations, saying he had not "really talked to anybody in the last couple days." - National Post
Vincent Lecavalier

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20090113/lecavalier_sm_45429.jpg Team: Tampa Bay Lightning
Position: Centre
Age: 28
Contract Status: 11-year, $85 million extension begins July 1
The Latest: The trading of Lecavalier remains an option that will be considered. To what extent it will be considered will be based on many factors that include: how the team is playing, how Lecavalier is playing, what the offers are from other teams, and in what direction ownership decides to take this franchise in the long run. All of those will get weighed and measured on a weekly basis between now and the trade deadline. - TSN
Marian Gaborik

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20080818/gab-second_66974.jpg Team: Minnesota Wild
Position: Left Wing
Age: 26
Contract Status: UFA on July 1
The Latest: When Gaborik underwent hip surgery on January 5, the thought was he would start skating within six weeks, aiming for a return to the ice in 10-14 weeks. Gaborik says he's about a week ahead of schedule, and he's hoping to skate as soon as Feb. 9. - Minneapolis Star Tribune
Tomas Kaberle

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20090108/Kaberle-s_44965.jpg Team: Toronto Maple Leafs
Position: Defence
Age: 30
Contract Status: Signed for two more years at $4.25M per season
The Latest: Brian Burke wants to keep him in Toronto and Kaberle wants to remain in Toronto. But Kaberle told reporters last month that he would be willing to move if the team asked him to and a source close to the player's agent said the Leafs would soon be given a list of teams he would agree to play for. - National Post/TSN
Chris Pronger

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20080314/cp2_53500.jpg Team: Anaheim Ducks
Position: Defence
Age: 34
Contract Status: Signed for one more year at $6.25 million
The Latest: Pronger could be on the move if the Ducks' window for being a playoff contender closes. His trade status also depends on the direction they want to take going forward and if captain Scott Niedermayer plans to return next season. - Orange County Register
Nik Antropov

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20081226/NA_2_40925.jpg Team: Toronto Maple Leafs
Position: Right Wing
Age: 28
Contract Status: UFA on July 1
The Latest: Toronto has a plethora of players considered to be in play and Nik Antropov is among those most talked about. If the Leafs are offered a draft pick, or suitable prospect, they'll trade him rather than try and negotiate an extension. - TSN
Keith Tkachuk

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20081130/keith-t_66987.jpg Team: St. Louis Blues
Position: Left Wing
Age: 36
Contract Status: UFA on July 1
The Latest: Tkachuk offers experience, grit and offence to any team. Considering the St. Louis Blues' struggles this season, he is once again a trade target. His contract expires at the end of the season, which also makes him affordable as a rental players. Pro-rated, a team would need only to have $940,000 of cap room to fit in Tkachuk. - TSN/USA Today
Chris Neil

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20080927/ruutu_sm_76085.jpg Team: Ottawa Senators
Position: Right Wing
Age: 29
Contract Status: UFA on July 1
The Latest: Neil balances a measure of skill and toughness many teams are seeking. Neil is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent in July and the Senators may not have the cap space to re-sign him.
Colby Armstrong

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20081216/armstrong-sm_80730.jpg Team: Atlanta Thrashers
Position: Right Wing
Age: 26
Contract Status: RFA on July 1
The Latest: According to TSN's Darren Dreger, Armstrong has attracted interest this season, including the Penguins who would like to see him reunited with captain Sidney Crosby.
Scottie Upshall

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20081115/PHI_upshall_sm_78800.jpg Team: Philadelphia Flyers
Position: Right Wing
Age: 25
Contract Status: RFA on July 1
The Latest: Upshall, who still has plenty of upside, may be tough to part with. However, he's a restricted free agent this summer and is expecting a raise on his $1.25 million salary.
Michael Nylander

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20090201/nylander_sm_76125.jpg Team: Washington Capitals
Position: Centre
Age: 36
Contract Status: Signed for two more years with a $4.875M cap hit
The Latest: Nylander has two years remaining on his contract and he eats up about $4.8 million in cap space, so he's a tough sell. But for a team eager to add some offence late in the season, Nylander may be the answer.
Niclas Havelid

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20090205/havelid_sm_54024.jpg Team: Atlanta Thrashers
Position: Defence
Age: 35
Contract Status: UFA on July 1
The Latest: Havelid has been a great defensive defenceman for a team that has struggled in its own end. With his contract expiring in the summer, he's an attractive option for a playoff team.

[Elias_Devil]

I can't wait even though I can't see the Devils making to big of a move.

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TOP 25 AVAILABLE PLAYERS
As of February 14, 2009 - 11:20pm ET

Trade Deadline Page | Top-25 | No-Trade Clauses | Rumors | List of Trades

With the 2008-09 NHL trade deadline quickly approaching, TFP has outlined some of the top names rumored to be available for trade through various newspapers, radio and television reports, cyberspace and our own league-wide sources.

As part of TFP's Trade Deadline Coverage, this page will be updated regularly and TFP's Panel of Experts will outline the values of each athlete. As the weeks inch closer to the deadline, some players may climb or fall off the list, while others may be added.

No. Player Player Info.
Speculated Teams Showing Interest Status
1 Chris Pronger, D (ANA)
Cap Hit: $6.25 million | Age: 34
Arguably one of the most valuable defensemen in the NHL, Chris Pronger could be a very hot commodity if the Ducks are serious about trading him.

It's believed Anaheim is fielding offers for star blueliner, given their recent slide down the standings.



2 Ilya Kovalchuk, LW (ATL)
Cap Hit: $6.389 million | Age: 25
The Thrashers want to keep him and GM Don Waddell has indicated several times that he doesn't plan on trading away his captain. That being said, Atlanta's getting plenty of inquiries about Ilya Kovalchuk and there remains the possibility that a deal might come across the table that's too good to pass up.



3 Jay Bouwmeester, D (FLA)
Cap Hit: $4.8 million | Age: 25
Even though they're smack in the middle of a playoff race, the Panthers cannot afford to let Jay Bouwmeester walk this summer as a free agent. Granted, they can still move his rights around draft time, but his value won't be as near as what it is now. If Florida can get a young offensive NHL forward, there's a good change Bouwmeester will be moved by March 4.



4 Vincent Lecavalier, C (TB)
Cap Hit: $6.875 million | Age: 28
There's a reason he isn't No.1 on the list, and that's mainly because the consensus among our staff is that Vinny Lecavalier won't be dealt.

Nevertheless, teams are still calling and that opens the gates to further speculation.


5 Tomas Kaberle, D (TOR)
Cap Hit: $4.25 million | Age: 30
Kaberle has indicated he'd be willing to accept a move and waive his no-trade clause if the team insisted on it. You can be sure Leafs GM Brian Burke is getting calls about this All-Star defenseman and if a team is willing to match what Philadelphia did last year (Jeff Carter), Kaberle will be wearing a different jersey by March 5.




6 Pavel Kubina, D (TOR)
Cap Hit: $5 million | Age: 31
Like teammate Tomas Kaberle, Kubina has a no-trade clause and would have to waive it in order for Toronto to pull the trigger on a deal.

If Kaberle's dealt, it's not set in stone that Kubina will stay. Depending on what GM Brian Burke is offered, Kubina's future is still up in the air.



7 Martin St. Louis, RW (TB)
Cap Hit: $5.25 million | Age: 33
If the Lightning really needs to shed some salary for next season, this would be the man to move.

It's been reported that Martin St. Louis would consider waiving his no-trade clause for a Cup contender and if the right offer comes along, the Bolts might try to pull the trigger.




8 Keith Tkachuk, C/LW (STL)
Cap Hit: $4 million | Age: 36
While he prefers to stay in St. Louis, Tkachuk is open to the idea of waiving his no-trade clause if that means he'll be playing for a top-seeded contender.

The Blues have already received plenty of interested, and many suspect TK will be dealt.



9 Nik Antropov, C/RW (TOR)
Cap Hit: $2.05 million | Age: 28
The Leafs aren't asking for the world for Nik Antropov, but they do want a solid prospect and/or a high draft pick.

Antropov is a relatively inexpensive commodity and is expected to be moved in the coming weeks.



10 Bill Guerin, RW (NYI)
Cap Hit: $4.5 million | Age: 38
This season hasn't exactly worked out the way Bill Guerin has hoped. The Islanders are battling for the first-overall pick in the upcoming June Entry Draft, instead of a playoff spot, and that makes Guerin available.

The veteran has a no-trade clause, but he'd waive it for the right team.



11 Ryan Whitney, D (PIT)
Cap Hit: $4 million | Age: 25
An interesting player to be on this list (to say the least), but the Penguins are looking for a top-line forward and are believed to be dangling Whitney as bait. Pittsburgh GM Ray Shero continues his search for a permanent linemate for Sidney Crosby, and he might find someone if he's truly willing to part with Whitney.



12 Jason Spezza, C (OTT)
Cap Hit: $7 million | Age: 25
Moving Spezza would certainly shake things up in Ottawa, but don't expect him to be dealt just because you're ready his name in the papers or even on this list. The Sens are rumored to be willing to --at the very least-- entertain calls about Spezza's price tag. If a deal that makes sense to GM Bryan Murray is presented, only then will the team consider making a move.



13 Milan Hejduk, RW (COL)
Cap Hit: $3.9 million | Age: 32
If the Colorado Avalanche fall out of the playoff picture in the near future, GM Francois Giguere might have to take the calls he's been getting about Milan Hejduk more seriously.

Hejduk has a no-trade clause, so the final decision will be up to him.



14 Dan Hamhuis, D (NAS)
Cap Hit: $2 million | Age: 26
Nashville's in a tough position. They desperately need some help up front, but their ownership situation might prevent them from acquiring an elite forward.

Predators GM David Poile might have to move salary for salary, and having an available asset like Hamhuis doesn't hurt.


15 Michael Nylander, C (WAS)
Cap Hit: $4.875 million | Age: 36
The Capitals are on the lookout for a top-3 defenseman and moving Nylander will free up enough cap space to fill their need.

Nylander doesn't fit well into Washington's current team and he appears willing to waive his no-trade clause.




16 Jordan Staal, C (PIT)
Cap Hit: $2.2 million | Age: 20
If teammate Ryan Whitney doesn't do the trick, the Pens could move Staal and his new contract to another club for a top-line forward.

Staal's new 4-year, $16M extension has many other teams feeling more comfortable at the thought of acquiring this young stud forward.



17 Nikolai Khabibulin, G (CHI)
Cap Hit: $6.25 million | Age: 36
The Blackhawks remain on the fence with The Bulin Wall.

On the one side, they love having two capable No.1 goalies between the pipes. On the other, dealing Khabibulin would give the team the cap space it needs to acquire a top-six forward or a second-line center.



18 Scottie Upshall, RW/LW (PHI)
Cap Hit: $1.225 million | Age: 25
The Flyers are looking for an upgrade on the blueline and appear willing to part with one of their forwards in the process.

Hartnell can become a restricted free agent this summer and the Flyers are believed to be willing to part with him.



19 Filip Kuba, D (OTT)
Cap Hit: $3 million | Age: 32
Kuba's had one of his best seasons in the NHL with Ottawa (hard to believe?) and is on pace for a career-high in points.

He can become a UFA this summer and considering the Senators' place in the standings, he's very much available for trade.




20 Niclas Havelid, D (ATL)
Cap Hit: $2.7 million | Age: 35
Havelid can become an unrestricted free agent July 1. With the Atlanta Thrashers nowhere near the playoffs, he could find himself on another team in the near future.

His salary isn't too high, and the Thrashers should be able to get a fairly high draft pick in return.



21 Doug Weight, C (NYI)
Cap Hit: $1.75 million | Age: 38
Much like teammate Bill Guerin, Doug Weight has been disappointed with the 2008-09 season.

He prefers to stay in Long Island, but he may not have much of a choice, as the Islanders are expected to trade him before March 4.



22 Mathieu Schneider, D (ATL)
Cap Hit: $5.625 million | Age: 39
Poor Mathieu Schneider... he'll likely be moved to yet another team this season. He's still a solid asset and can help a playoff-bound team, but his salary is a major problem for a number of teams. If the Thrashers are willing to take on another club's leftovers, a deal becomes more possible.



23 Colby Armstrong, RW (ATL)
Cap Hit: $1.2 million | Age: 26
Armstrong hasn't worked out in Atlanta and the Thrashers have been shopping this kid for some time.

The Thrashers were looking for more out of Armstrong, but if they can make the right package for a top-6 forward, they'll gladly include him in the mix.



24 Chris Neil, RW (OTT)
Cap Hit: $1.1 million | Age: 29
The Senators could get a solid pick draft from a playoff contender for Chris Neil, who is in the final year of his contract and can become an unrestricted free agent July 1.

Sens owner Eugene Melnyk might not want to admit it, but this team needs a bit of a makeover.



25 Rostislav Klesla, D (CBJ)
Cap Hit: $1.6 million | Age: 28
The Blue Jackets are looking for top line center and an offensive-minded defenseman, and could use Klesla as trade bait.

Reports out of Columbus claim Klesla is available and could be dealt before the trade deadline.
























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[cflames89]

I can see Heatley getting moved as well.

[WingNut 25]

Pronger for Bouwmeester maybe?

[madcracker]

Montreal needs what they've needed for years, and I'm getting tired of waiting for it. They need a big, physical goal scorer.

If not, I'd be more than happy with Lecavalier.

[cflames89]

Pronger for Bouwmeester maybe?

I highly doubt that would happen.

[WingNut 25]

I highly doubt that would happen.

Consider the possibility. Anaheim has a ton of salary coming off the books next season. I think they only have like 5 guys under contract. They could over pay for Bouw since Niedermayer will likely retire. Pronger helps the Panthers stay in the playoff mix and they get him for next year too.

[cflames89]

Consider the possibility. Anaheim has a ton of salary coming off the books next season. I think they only have like 5 guys under contract. They could over pay for Bouw since Niedermayer will likely retire. Pronger helps the Panthers stay in the playoff mix and they get him for next year too.

But there is still not guarantee that the Ducks can re-sign Bouwmeester.

[cflames89]

Rumblings out of Miami right now have Bouwmeester fully on the block as Martin is mulling over a couple of deals.

[glove-save]

Lots of good rumors on this site:

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/

[Wrestling Fan]

Hopefully the Leafs can cut some extra meat and get some prospects of picks out of it

[Hornz Over Halos]

I started this thread a couple weeks ago and completely forgot about it! :o

[cflames89]

I started this thread a couple weeks ago and completely forgot about it! :o

That is just plain bad Rick.

[RickeyB]

Does anyone think the Pens will actually land Martin St. Louis?

Lightning, Penguins discussing trade
TheFourthPeriod.com
With the playoff all but out of reach for the Tampa Bay Lightning this season, management has put its focus on the upcoming trade deadline.

Outside of their top line, the Bolts have a number of tradable assets, including Mark Recchi, Marek Malik, Lukas Krajicek and Jeff Halpern.

Speculation has finally died down surrounding a possible trade involving Lightning superstar Vincent Lecavalier, but his linemate is starting to attract plenty of interest.

The Pittsburgh Penguins are actively trying to acquire a top-line sniper and are believed to be interested in Lightning forward Martin St. Louis.

St. Louis, who has 19 goals and 50 points so far this season, has a no-trade clause and would have to approve any deal the Bolts agree to.

Tampa would like to get its hands on a No.1 or No.2 defenseman, and the Penguins are reportedly willing to move blueliner Ryan Whitney for a top offensive threat.

The Lightning has been scouting a number of Penguins games lately, with one scout in attendance for last night's win over the San Jose Sharks.

[cflames89]

I think the Pens have the best shot out there, other than the Ducks, of landing St. Louis.

[KingsFan25]

Avs Beat writer Adrian Dater basically says the Avs will make a trade in the next couple of days.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2009/02/15/so-i-go-to-a-dartmouth-hockey-game-and-this-is-the-first-thing-i-see/

[KingsFan25]

Matt Schneider traded to Montreal for 2nd and 3rd round picks.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=267394&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_main

[cflames89]

Avs Beat writer Adrian Dater basically says the Avs will make a trade in the next couple of days.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2009/02/15/so-i-go-to-a-dartmouth-hockey-game-and-this-is-the-first-thing-i-see/

I am seeing alot of Smyth on the block right now.

[cflames89]

Matt Schneider traded to Montreal for 2nd and 3rd round picks.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=267394&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_main

That one makes sense.

[KingsFan25]

That one makes sense.

I think Atlanta does a terrific job in this trade.

[Rexy]

Atlanta is slowly making up for that Zhitnik for Coburn trade. :p

[Paul755]

I seriously doubt Smyth moves. Although Ice Rat would give him and Hejduk away for 5th round draft picks if they would waive their NTC's.

If anything I expect the Avs to move a few players (Leopold, etc...)but they won't do anything major.

[madcracker]

I think Atlanta does a terrific job in this trade.

Basically, if they got anything in return at all they do ok. The Thrashers are going nowhere. Montreal is pretty deep with prospects, so they can afford a couple of draft picks to address a need.

Hopefully they address the other needs. They're still a team that can easily be bullied because Laracque likely won't play come playoff time. They need a big physical goal scorer. Who's available?

[cflames89]

Well, the Schneider deal is expected to be the precursor to a bigger one, so we will just have to wait and see.

[KingsFan25]

Basically, if they got anything in return at all they do ok. The Thrashers are going nowhere. Montreal is pretty deep with prospects, so they can afford a couple of draft picks to address a need.

Hopefully they address the other needs. They're still a team that can easily be bullied because Laracque likely won't play come playoff time. They need a big physical goal scorer. Who's available?

I just think a 2nd and a 3rd is a really high price, I thought Schneider would go for less.

[HollandX]

thrashers did awesome!

[madcracker]

I just think a 2nd and a 3rd is a really high price, I thought Schneider would go for less.

What do you mean? He's the missing piece. Hopefully they pair him up with Brisebois!

At 39 years old, you're right, he probably would have gone for less anywhere else, but like I said, it's a need that Montreal had, and a price they could obviously afford. Personally, I wouldn't have traded that much for Schneider, but I'm not an NHL GM for a reason, eh? I hope this is the start of good things from Mr. Gainey. Somebody shake me if I turn blue.

Hopefully for the Thrashers fans they can restock their cupboard with a few more deals.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Bruins are very interested in Keith Tkachuk.

[glove-save]

I just think a 2nd and a 3rd is a really high price, I thought Schneider would go for less.


They didn't have to give up any of Paciorety(sp), D'Agistini or Chipchura. Having picks and doing something with them are two WAY to different things...Remember Patrick Stefan (Atl is brutal at the draft)

[madcracker]

They didn't have to give up any of Paciorety(sp), D'Agistini or Chipchura. Having picks and doing something with them are two WAY to different things...Remember Patrick Stefan (Atl is brutal at the draft)

They did draft Kovalchuk and Dany Heatley.

[avsfan21]

Every year it seems that the Media brings up Vinny's name at the trade deadline, and every year nothing happens. I expect the same this season. The lightning wont move him, he is the face of the franchise.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Vinny isnt going anywhere because noone wants his contract.

[avsfan21]

I also dont see Kovy going anywhere either. If they cant get a deal done, perhaps next year.

[Hornz Over Halos]

Every year it seems that the Media brings up Vinny's name at the trade deadline, and every year nothing happens. I expect the same this season. The lightning wont move him, he is the face of the franchise.



Exactly, Mike.

Vinny ever rides out of town, so should the Bolts. No one will go to games anymore.

[cflames89]

They did draft Kovalchuk and Dany Heatley.

It is quite hard to screw up a #1 pick.

[glove-save]

They did draft Kovalchuk and Dany Heatley.

High 1st round picks are usually NO BRAINERS, it's the later picks that show how good your drafting is...See Detroit's record at the draft

[91_dnulasN]

Canucks should be Shopping for a Vet 4th Liner so Hordisuck can ride the press box come playoff time, and a decent Thridline checking Center since (It Seems) The Ryan Kesler Coming out party has started.

ONLY Way I deal for a Top 6 Forwards is if its a Bonafied Star that ISNT a Rental and the price is right.(See Kovalchuk, Ilya)

[ShakesO]

Bouwmeester or Spezza to Edmonton. For who? I have no idea. :D This is my pipe dream.

[91_dnulasN]

Bouwmeester or Spezza to Edmonton. For who? I have no idea. :D This is my pipe dream.

It would make me Giddy as could be to see the Oilers Send an assinine amount of stuff to Florida for J-Bo just to watch him not sign with them this offseason.

[cflames89]

Bouwmeester or Spezza to Edmonton. For who? I have no idea. :D This is my pipe dream.

Thanks for the contribution, LOL!!!!

[cflames89]

It would make me Giddy as could be to see the Oilers Send an assinine amount of stuff to Florida for J-Bo just to watch him not sign with them this offseason.

Me too.

[ShakesO]

It would make me Giddy as could be to see the Oilers Send an assinine amount of stuff to Florida for J-Bo just to watch him not sign with them this offseason.


In all seriousness - isn't the new Oilers owner willing to spend money to get some good players on board? Assuming they don't trade for a pr*ck player (see: pronger's wife), Edmonton is at least a good hockey town (see: luongo to vancouver fr florida).

What have they got in the way of assets this year? Players or picks.

[madcracker]

High 1st round picks are usually NO BRAINERS, it's the later picks that show how good your drafting is...See Detroit's record at the draft

Detroit has picked up some real good hockey players in later rounds, but it's not as if they knew this all along and were just waiting until they were available in later rounds. There is a lot of luck involved.

Yes, Datsyuk was chosen in the 6th round, but if the Red Wings had any idea how good Datsyuk was going to be at that time and waited until the 6th round, they'd be pretty stupid, eh?

Datsyuk was drafted in the 6th round in '98. Here's who the Wings selected in front of him:

Round 1: Jiri Fischer
Round 2: Ryan Barnes & Tomek Valtonen
Round 3: Jake McCracken
Round 4: Brent Hobday
Round 5: Calle Steen

To me it looks like they were really lucky that Datsyuk developed into the player he is today.

[cflames89]

In all seriousness - isn't the new Oilers owner willing to spend money to get some good players on board? Assuming they don't trade for a pr*ck player (see: pronger's wife), Edmonton is at least a good hockey town (see: luongo to vancouver fr florida).

What have they got in the way of assets this year? Players or picks.

The owner may be willing to spend money, but the players in the most part are not willing to accept the money to play in Edmonton.

[glove-save]

Detroit has picked up some real good hockey players in later rounds, but it's not as if they knew this all along and were just waiting until they were available in later rounds. There is a lot of luck involved.

Yes, Datsyuk was chosen in the 6th round, but if the Red Wings had any idea how good Datsyuk was going to be at that time and waited until the 6th round, they'd be pretty stupid, eh?

Datsyuk was drafted in the 6th round in '98. Here's who the Wings selected in front of him:

Round 1: Jiri Fischer
Round 2: Ryan Barnes & Tomek Valtonen
Round 3: Jake McCracken
Round 4: Brent Hobday
Round 5: Calle Steen

To me it looks like they were really lucky that Datsyuk developed into the player he is today.

You are right, 2nd and 3rd round picks to Atlanta will turn out to be 30 goal scorers...BAD trade for Montreal

[glove-save]

The owner may be willing to spend money, but the players in the most part are not willing to accept the money to play in Edmonton.


I am not sure what it is, but Edmonton is consistently at the bottom of the list of cities to play in, when the players take part in an anonomous survey every year

[cflames89]

I am not sure what it is, but Edmonton is consistently at the bottom of the list of cities to play in, when the players take part in an anonomous survey every year

Hell, Buffalo gets better results nowadays, and they used to always be at the bottom of the lists.

[madcracker]

You are right, 2nd and 3rd round picks to Atlanta will turn out to be 30 goal scorers...BAD trade for Montreal

You never know. And that's the point. You can't just dismiss the potential that Atlanta might draft a good player with those picks because they drafted Patrik Stefan.

[chasefinder]

my fingers are crossed for that!;)

Well, the Schneider deal is expected to be the precursor to a bigger one, so we will just have to wait and see.

[avsfan21]

You never know. And that's the point. You can't just dismiss the potential that Atlanta might draft a good player with those picks because they drafted Patrik Stefan.

Give me a break every team has drafted busts, big deal.

[Hockeyfan74]

I'm curious to see if Ken Holland makes a move to open up a bit of cap space in order to keep both Hossa and Franzen for next season and beyond.

[bigpoppad]

I had suspected a while back that the Hawks would likely part with Khabby. No surprise that they would put him out there. Any other goalies though? Any rumours that the Panthers might perhaps entertain an offer for Vokoun? An older but worthwhile read:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/20967-THNcom-Blog-Time-is-right-for-Panthers-to-trade-Vokoun.html

[91_dnulasN]

Give me a break every team has drafted busts, big deal.

Also, As an Aside, that 99 Draft Class Was By far one of the worst Draft Classes EVER for the first round

1a-AtlantaPatrik Stefan, Long BeachC
2b-VancouverDaniel Sedin, MoDoL
3VancouverHenrik Sedin, MoDoC
4c-NY RangersPavel Brendl, CalgaryR
5NY IslandersTim Connolly, ErieC
6NashvilleBrian Finley, BarrieG
7WashingtonKris Beech, CalgaryC
8d-NY IslandersTaylor Pyatt, SudburyL
9e-NY RangersJamie Lundmark, Moose JawC
10***Y IslandersBranislav Mezei, BellevilleD
11g-CalgaryOleg Saprykin, SeattleC
12FloridaDenis Shvidki, BarrieR
13EdmontonJani Rita, JokeritR
14San JoseJeff Jillson, MichiganD
15h-PhoenixScott Kelman, SeattleC
16CarolinaDavid Tanabe, WisconsinD
17St. LouisBarret Jackman, ReginaD
18PittsburghKonstantin Koltsov, CherepovetsL
19PhoenixKiril Safranov, SKAD
20BuffaloBarrett Heisten, MaineL
21BostonNick Boynton, OttawaD
22PhiladelphiaMaxime Ouellet, QuebecG
23i-ChicagoSteve McCarthy, KootenayD
24TorontoLuca Cereda, AmbriC
25ColoradoMikhail Kuleshov, CherepovetsL
26OttawaMartin Havlat, TrinecC
27New JerseyAri Ahonen, JyvaskylaG
28j-NY IslandersKristian Kudroc, MichalovceD

If you want to be Generous, the Top 5 "Stars" from the First round were the Sedins, Havlat, Jackman and Connolly. Stefan, Brendl, Finley, Mezei and Beech were Complete Top 10 Busts while Lundmark I think was Completely Ruined by the Rangers and Pyatt was just Overvalued to what he has become.

Outside the top ten, When you talk about guys like Saprykin, Rita, Jillson, Boynton and McCarthy as having the most "Impact" and you can see just how God awful this draft was.

And if you remember, Going into it, The 99 Class HAD been called one of the Deepest Drafts in the last 10 years.

[bigpoppad]

I'm just gonna say this not for nothing, but I consider Detroit to possibly be in need of a move in goal. Not certainly, but if I'm Holland I would definately consider my options, especially since they were rumoured to be looking at wooing Millar prior to his Sabres extension / signing last June.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

When was the last time a trade deadline deal made a substancial impact on a team?

To be honest, I'm more excited to see what the sellers do rather than what the buyers will do because they always play off the desperation of contending/middling teams and get some great returns. Hopefully there's a team out there willing to give up a first and a young player for Kaberle. :D

[Mats_44]

When was the last time a trade deadline deal made a substancial impact on a team?

To be honest, I'm more excited to see what the sellers do rather than what the buyers will do because they always play off the desperation of contending/middling teams and get some great returns. Hopefully there's a team out there willing to give up a first and a young player for Kaberle. :D

Uhhhh last year?? Hossa had a pretty damn good playoffs for the Penguins. Unless you are saying that the substantial impact had to result in a Stanley Cup victory and nothing else......

[molhen]

I have heard M.Smith for Lieno.....am unsure how that works but have heard this rumour pop up a few times.

I would say their is more to it but that is the core.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Uhhhh last year?? Hossa had a pretty damn good playoffs for the Penguins. Unless you are saying that the substantial impact had to result in a Stanley Cup victory and nothing else......

LOL, as usual I phrased myself incorrectly, I should have said that GMs act like they have to make a deal when for the most part deadline deals that have a significant impact are few and far between. Thanks for correcting me though, completely forgot about the Hossa deal.

[KingsFan25]

What do you mean? He's the missing piece. Hopefully they pair him up with Brisebois!

At 39 years old, you're right, he probably would have gone for less anywhere else, but like I said, it's a need that Montreal had, and a price they could obviously afford. Personally, I wouldn't have traded that much for Schneider, but I'm not an NHL GM for a reason, eh? I hope this is the start of good things from Mr. Gainey. Somebody shake me if I turn blue.

Hopefully for the Thrashers fans they can restock their cupboard with a few more deals.

I don't think that Schneider is the piece that is going to complete Montreal right now. They've been terrible in their last 15 and if adding Schneider is the catalyst that turns everything around, I'd be shocked.

They didn't have to give up any of Paciorety(sp), D'Agistini or Chipchura. Having picks and doing something with them are two WAY to different things...Remember Patrick Stefan (Atl is brutal at the draft)

They shouldn't have to trade anyone of value that's a rostered player. Just not worth it, as Schneider is not an impact type player like Hossa. Making a trade like that looks as dumb as Zhitnik for Coburn.

[cflames89]

I had suspected a while back that the Hawks would likely part with Khabby. No surprise that they would put him out there. Any other goalies though? Any rumours that the Panthers might perhaps entertain an offer for Vokoun? An older but worthwhile read:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/20967-THNcom-Blog-Time-is-right-for-Panthers-to-trade-Vokoun.html

I keep thinking that the Devils may make Clemmensen available when Brodeur come back.

[cflames89]

I'm just gonna say this not for nothing, but I consider Detroit to possibly be in need of a move in goal. Not certainly, but if I'm Holland I would definately consider my options, especially since they were rumoured to be looking at wooing Millar prior to his Sabres extension / signing last June.

If you look around on the net, you can see a lot of Toskala to Detroit rumours.

[WingNut 25]

If you look around on the net, you can see a lot of Toskala to Detroit rumours.

Totally ridiculous rumor as well. Toskala has zero value right now and is not an upgrade for the Wings. I don't see the Wings making any moves unless it is to free up salary.

[IceRat]

I'm just gonna say this not for nothing, but I consider Detroit to possibly be in need of a move in goal.
I gladly offer up either of our two tenders who have beaten you in all games played this season

[91_dnulasN]

I dont see Detroit getting a Tender UNLESS its Giguare. And With the Ducks in a Free Fall, And Hiller Playing decently, I could see them shopping the Giggy one

[ToightLikeATiger]

If the Red Wings trade for another goalie and start him over Ty Conklin they are ignorant! Ty Conklin is the best option they could have right now in house and better then anyone they could go out and get in a trade. He has played very well every time he gets the chance to play. He just keeps getting benched once an injured guy comes back. Its time to let Conklin run with it. Then when Osgood is fully healthy you have a great 1-2 combo in net.

[avsfan21]

Conklin isnt that good. It is just the fact that you can pretty much stick anyone in net for the Wings and they would have decent numbers. It is the old do you think Osgood and Legace are that good or is it the system they have played in.

[IceRat]

you can pretty much stick anyone in net for the Wings and they would have decent numbers.
QFT
now about those Avalanche goalies I am offering

[ToightLikeATiger]

Conklin isnt that good. It is just the fact that you can pretty much stick anyone in net for the Wings and they would have decent numbers. It is the old do you think Osgood and Legace are that good or is it the system they have played in.

Conklin is that good. He also lead the Penguins for a big chunk of last year as well. Only to have Fluery take over when he got back from injury. Without Conklin the Penguins would have been in big trouble last year.

He is a very good goaltender and is now proving it by getting a legit full time chance in net.

[avsfan21]

Conklin has had the luxury of playing for the two of the best teams in the league and look good because of it. Conklin is not a goalie that can steal games for you. You just have to hope that you can score more than he will let in on any given night. Since the Wings have score 20 more goals than any other team, there is a good chance of that happening. Plus the Wings still have some of the best D-men in the league.

[Hockeyfan74]

Conklin had some good runs tending the pipes for the Oilers a few seasons ago. They weren't lighting the lamp a whole bunch then.

[jiggacrazy]

Conklin has had the luxury of playing for the two of the best teams in the league and look good because of it. Conklin is not a goalie that can steal games for you. You just have to hope that you can score more than he will let in on any given night. Since the Wings have score 20 more goals than any other team, there is a good chance of that happening. Plus the Wings still have some of the best D-men in the league.

There is a HUGE difference between the stats that Ozzie and Conklin have this year:

Conklin: 19 wins, 2.34 GAA, 915 S%
Osgood: 18 wins, 3.29 GAA, 879S%


They have the same defense in front of them. I still think I'd rather have Osgood be the starter in the playoffs, but I'd give him a short leash....much like Hasek was given last year.

[pensfan71]

There is a HUGE difference between the stats that Ozzie and Conklin have this year:

Conklin: 19 wins, 2.34 GAA, 915 S%
Osgood: 18 wins, 3.29 GAA, 879S%


They have the same defense in front of them. I still think I'd rather have Osgood be the starter in the playoffs, but I'd give him a short leash....much like Hasek was given last year.

doesn't Conks have 6 shutouts?

[PrimeBane]

The owner may be willing to spend money, but the players in the most part are not willing to accept the money to play in Edmonton.

I am not sure what it is, but Edmonton is consistently at the bottom of the list of cities to play in, when the players take part in an anonomous survey every year

Got a link? As far as I know there has not been such a survey for at least 2-3 years since the one listing Buffalo as the least and Edmonton at #2. It is not a yearly survey.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

I'm surprised that Kovalchuk and Clemmensen aren't being heavily mentioned in trade rumours because these guys could bring back insane hauls for Atlanta and New Jersey.

[91_dnulasN]

Kovalchuk is being whispered some, BUT he isnt a UFA yet, still has one more year so I Wouldnt move him unless I was getting a younger better player back (See Eklunds rediculous Malkin for Kovalchuk + "Rumor)

[avsfan21]

Just like Vinny in Tampa, Kovy is the face of the Thrashers. He is pretty much the only thing that will bring people to a game right now. There is no way he is being moved this year unless they are getting a proven superstar in return. As Rick said that if Vinny was traded they might as well move the team with him. Kovy is pretty much the same way. I dont think the fans would forgive management if they trade him for some about what they got for Hossa.

[ShakesO]

Just like Vinny in Tampa, Kovy is the face of the Thrashers. He is pretty much the only thing that will bring people to a game right now. There is no way he is being moved this year unless they are getting a proven superstar in return. As Rick said that if Vinny was traded they might as well move the team with him. Kovy is pretty much the same way. I dont think the fans would forgive management if they trade him for some about what they got for Hossa.


Maybe it'll be a Kris Draper type deal... Thrashers traded for $1 USD. :D

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Kovalchuk is being whispered some, BUT he isnt a UFA yet, still has one more year so I Wouldnt move him unless I was getting a younger better player back (See Eklunds rediculous Malkin for Kovalchuk + "Rumor)

Doesn't that make him MORE attractive to teams who are interested though because they know that he won't simply be a rental and is signed through 2009-2010 for $7.5 million ($6.4 million cap number)? I think it would, that's why the Thrashers must at least see what's out there and shop him hard in the next few weeks.

I don't think the franchise is even capable of offering him an extension that he would seriously consider signing because they are a financial wreck, are bleeding money profusely and are one of the worst teams in the league so they are better off capitalizing on the current value of their asset in Kovalcuk instead of letting him go into a contract season. I don't think it really makes a difference if Kovi is on the Thrashers or if he isn't, the franchise is a joke regardless and isn't achieving anything of signficance with him.

[pensfan71]

bump

[Elias_Devil]

I'm surprised that Kovalchuk and Clemmensen aren't being heavily mentioned in trade rumours because these guys could bring back insane hauls for Atlanta and New Jersey.

I hear the occasional thing about Clemmensen but I'm not sure he'd even bring that much in return. I believe he's a UFA in the offseason and I don't think that he is the answer for any team.

[cflames89]

I hear the occasional thing about Clemmensen but I'm not sure he'd even bring that much in return. I believe he's a UFA in the offseason and I don't think that he is the answer for any team.

For a team that feels they are a keeper away from making a run, it could be worth it.

[Elias_Devil]

For a team that feels they are a keeper away from making a run, it could be worth it.

I get to watch him every night and he is not going to lead a team to a championship. His stats are so good because of the team around him. It's pain me to say that but's it the truth and I can't wait for Marty to return on the 26th. He's a classy guy and I wish him well but whatever the Devils get for him would be a steal for them.

[WingNut 25]

Can't wait to see what Montreal does now.

[madcracker]

Give me a break every team has drafted busts, big deal.

That was the point I was making. I thought that was clear. I said you can't just dismiss the potential that Atlanta could draft someone good just because they drafted Stefan. Everyone drafts duds.

[QUOTE=KingsFan25;9615102]I don't think that Schneider is the piece that is going to complete Montreal right now. They've been terrible in their last 15 and if adding Schneider is the catalyst that turns everything around, I'd be shocked.QUOTE]

I was just having some fun. I'm always *****ing about Bob Gainey not doing enough to make the Canadiens a legitimate cup contender. I was defending this trade, sort of tongue-in-cheek.

[glove-save]

A few more rumors from TSN
Playoff races aside, there will be trades on Mar. 4 and based on the discussions taking place now we've compiled a list of the Top 10 most interesting trade possibilities.

No. 10 - Alex Kovalev. NHL executives are curious about his future in Montreal. If Bob Gainey wants to cut ties, there are teams willing to consider the risk.

No. 9 - The Oilers are believed to be one team interested in Kovalev and sources say Edmonton forward Erik Cole could be worked into a package as the Oilers search for a top line forward.

No. 8 - Chris Pronger. How the Anaheim Ducks play over the next two weeks will determine whether Pronger is truly in the mix. The most likely scenario is that the Ducks hold on to Pronger for their playoff push and reconsider trading him at the draft.

No. 7 - Ryan Whitney. With the return of Sergei Gonchar, the Penguins have a stockpile of blueliners and league sources say Whitney could fetch the quality forward Ray Shero is seeking.

No. 6 - Olli Jokinen. The Phoenix centre is available but NHL GMs wonder about a 10-year player who has never once been in the playoffs.

No. 5 - Jay Bouwmeester. The Panthers have talked to a number of teams and has a variety of trade scenarios to consider, but it's possible Bouwmeester has a change of heart and stays.

No. 4 - Nik Antropov may headline the parade of players out of Toronto. Brian Burke has established the asking price for Antropov - a first round draft pick.

No. 3 - Philadelphia prospect James van Riemsdyk. The University of New Hampshire forward, picked second in 2007, has been linked to Atlanta in a deal that would see a goalie going to the Flyers.

No. 2 - Thrashers goalie Kari Lehtonen is of interest to the Flyers. If Atlanta GM Don Waddell continues to rebuild, swapping Lehtonen for a prospect such as Van Riemsdyk would have to be seriously considered.

No. 1 - Ryan Smyth. Colorada needs to cut payroll and Francois Giguere is talking to teams about Smyth. The Avs won't ask Smyth to waive his no-trade unless there's a decent deal tabled. Teams are working on their offers now.

These are big names that may require big deals for teams to pull the trigger. However, this list of 10 present some powerful possibilities.

[avsfan21]

Why the hell would Colorado need to cut payroll? They have 3 million of space right now. Sakic is probably gone after this season so that is another 6 million.

[91_dnulasN]

Why the hell would Colorado need to cut payroll? They have 3 million of space right now. Sakic is probably gone after this season so that is another 6 million.

Internal Caps, Non Sellouts + Bad Ecconomy = Cut Payroll

I Questioned Gillis some before the season, but I am REALLY starting to see the appeal of having almost nothing on the books past 2010.

[Rexy]

Why would Philly need Kari? He is no improvement over what we have now. Go after Giguere if you want a goalie.

[avsfan21]

Why would Philly need Kari? He is no improvement over what we have now. Go after Giguere if you want a goalie.

Kari is a pretty damn good goalie stuck on a pretty damn bad team. The guy faces almost 40 shots a game if not more. He can for sure steal games for you. The only thing is that if he is off his game, he is way off. He could let in 4 goals on 10 shots if he isnt into it. At least that is the way it seems.

[slinger256]

Anyone here a fan of Ecklund and his silly trade rumours that you can pay to subscribe to on his website? Well some guys put together something I came across at www.hockeybuzzhogwash.com and they post all the rumours he provides for free and then has a bull****** tracker, its pretty funny. Thought I would pass along.

[Yzerman19c]

The Ottawa Senators acquired centre Mike Comrie and defenceman Chris Campoli in exchange for centre Dean McAmmond and the San Jose Sharks' 2009 first-round draft pick, obtained from the Tampa Bay Lightning in August 2008.

Comrie returns to the Senators, having played 61 games during the 2006-07 season, including 20 playoff meetings en route to the Stanley Cup final. He had 13 goals, 12 assists in 41 regular-season games with the Senators, as well as six points and 17 penalty minutes in 20 post-season meetings.

In 41 games this season with the Islanders, Comrie has seven goals, 13 assists and 26 penalty minutes. The Edmonton native has recorded five two-point games. He missed 17 games in November due to a hip injury.

Campoli is in his fourth season in the NHL and with the Islanders. In 51 games this season, the 6-foot, 190-pound defenceman has six goals, 17 assists and 43 penalty minutes. He has already tied a career season high with two game-winning goals and a shorthanded marker. Campoli has missed seven games to injuries.

Selected in the seventh round, 227th overall, in the 2004 entry draft, Campoli came to the New York club after playing the 2004-05 season with its American Hockey League affiliate, the Bridgeport Sound Tigers. In 228 regular-season NHL career games, he has 83 points (20-63) and 128 penalty minutes.

San Jose's 2009 first-round draft pick that is included in the trade, came from the Tampa Bay Lightning when they acquired Andrej Meszaros on Aug. 29, 2008, for Filip Kuba and Alexandre Picard.

[bigcheez99]

HA HA HA! Sens trading away 1st round picks (even tho its a late one) for someone they had and a D man that never panned out. Whats Murray thinking?

GO LEAFS GO :D :D

[Yzerman19c]

HA HA HA! Sens trading away 1st round picks (even tho its a late one) for someone they had and a D man that never panned out. Whats Murray thinking?

GO LEAFS GO :D :D

agree Comrie is UFA at the end of the year so basically your trading a 1st Round pick for Campoli in a year your going nowhere

[heavymetalmachine]

First substantial trade ... well maybe second after the Schneider deal, but this is the one that will probably trigger more moves. Let the madness begin.

[glove-save]

I guess they are trying to address a few issues, and believe that they have a shot at making the playoffs. Murray trying to save face, but his pink slip is inevitable

[avsfan21]

Come on, the Habs will tell you that draft picks are nothing because you could draft a bust. What ever lets them sleep at night over that Schneider trade I guess.

[PrimeBane]

Brutal deal by the Sentators... Murray will be out of a job this summer.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Wow, strange to see a team 13 points out give up a first even though it'll probably be one of the final three picks in the first round because I believe it was San Jose's pick that Tampa got via Dan Boyle deal then moved to Ottawa in the Meszaros deal.

It really is hard to believe that Murray has been kept this long, he has really done nothing but make the team gradually worse over his tenure, Jacques Martin built the team that made it to the Cup Finals in 2007.

[glove-save]

Got a link? As far as I know there has not been such a survey for at least 2-3 years since the one listing Buffalo as the least and Edmonton at #2. It is not a yearly survey.

The last one was in 2007 in the Hockey News

[dallasstars06]

I don't see it happening, but I would give my left nut to see Kovy in a Stars uniform. He's my favorite player so if they did, I'd be buying a jersey the second he set foot in the locker room. I can dream.

[PrimeBane]

The last one was in 2007 in the Hockey News

Exactly... things have changed since Katz bought the club.

[Karnage]

with mr.Underwood and Mr.Duff on their team, Ottawa definately has the hottest bunch of girlsfriends now.

[ShakesO]

with mr.Underwood and Mr.Duff on their team, Ottawa definately has the hottest bunch of girlsfriends now.

At least the girls can still put on concerts - the boys aren't exactly earning their paycheques these days...

[Hockeyfan74]

Murray is an idiot. You package that 1st round pick with a 2nd rounder or something and try to move up in the draft, not give it away like that.

[glove-save]

Exactly... things have changed since Katz bought the club.

Organizationally..They are great( Not sure about the Old Boys club though) , Fan support is amazing. The survey is about the desirability of the city ( Restaurants, Clubs, Culture, Climate, ETC..... More than the hockey team itself)

[PrimeBane]

They just have to have the players visit in the summer :)

Even I hate Edmonton/Northern Alberta in the dead of winter. I don't know how the hell the poor buggers in Ft Mac do it.

[91_dnulasN]

The thing is, as a 25-28YO Millionaire... Id Edmonton a Place you can see yourself parking? A majority says n o. I can understand that, however how LA doesnt get bette rFA's is a mystery (Its like Hawaii in NCAA recruiting... I mean its Hawaii, come live here for four years from age 18-22 for free and get an education, it freaking sells itself..)

[Paul755]

One Week to Go

[PrimeBane]

So Burkie has set the price for Kaberle
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2009/02/25/8530531-sun.html


1. "A first-round draft pick."

2. "A guy who could step in and play for our team right now."

3. "A (highly-regarded) prospect."

Said Burke today: "It would have to be a package like I paid to Edmonton for Chris Pronger."


Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone will ever mistake Kaberle for Pronger... Kaberle is going anywhere unless Burke has some incriminating photos of another GM.

[heavymetalmachine]

Based on what I've heard in interviews with Brian Burke, I'd be shocked if Kaberle was moved.

[right between the eyes]

Chris Pronger in Toronto, hmmm

Lots of fertile subjects there....might just work.

[91_dnulasN]

Kabs List of ten teams he;d acceot a trade too was Also all Eastern Conf. Clubs.

The rumored four not making the cut was Atlanta, NY Islanders, Carolina and Ottawa (?)

[PrimeBane]

McKenzie says Pronger has interest from Boston, NJ, SJ and Calgary
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=268395

Calgary? Common Bob, we all know Lauren won't live in Canada... ever. And she does wear the pants after all.

[Scout1982]

McKenzie says Pronger has interest from Boston, NJ, SJ and Calgary
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=268395

Calgary? Common Bob, we all know Lauren won't live in Canada... ever. And she does wear the pants after all.


I would LOL if he was traded to Calgary. Yeah, that's right, I said LOL.;)

[PrimeBane]

Can you imagine if he was traded to Calgary? Mike Comrie could probably safely come back to Edmonton again. ;)

[cflames89]

Can you imagine if he was traded to Calgary? Mike Comrie could probably safely come back to Edmonton again. ;)

Ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...................

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

I know this isn't really trade deadline related although it could be if the Devils are smart but why didn't the Devils send down Weekes instead of Scott "I'm a top 10 goalie this year?" Clemmensen?

[right between the eyes]

McKenzie says Pronger has interest from Boston, NJ, SJ and Calgary
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=268395

Calgary? Common Bob, we all know Lauren won't live in Canada... ever. And she does wear the pants after all.

From what i heard they're not even together anymore (Lauren and Chris).... Chris is free to take a dip anywhere he wants now.

[starscream's ghost]

I know this isn't really trade deadline related although it could be if the Devils are smart but why didn't the Devils send down Weekes instead of Scott "I'm a top 10 goalie this year?" Clemmensen?
that way clemmensen can stay hot as the #1 in the minors and won't rot on the bench like weekes will continue to. and if brodeur falters, they've got their go-to-guy in the minors keeping active

[Poochiesdead]

I know this isn't really trade deadline related although it could be if the Devils are smart but why didn't the Devils send down Weekes instead of Scott "I'm a top 10 goalie this year?" Clemmensen?I'm guessing Clemmensen has a two way contract and Weekes has a one way. I could be wrong though.

[Poochiesdead]

Eh, I was kinda right:Clemmensen, who has been the backbone of the effort with a 25-13-1 record, was returned to Lowell of the AHL on Wednesday. He had been called up on an emergency basis when Brodeur was hurt, so he does not have to clear waivers.

Weekes might have been lost to waivers had he been sent to the minors.

[Paul755]

Eklund has Frolov to the Pens, Avs or Sabres

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Frolov-to-Avs-or-Pens-Cole-for-Ruutu-Sabres-interested-in-Ersberg/1/19627

[avsfan21]

I wonder if Eklund has two hats throws names in one and teams in the other. Then pulls one name and a few teams and then posts it.

[glove-save]

Based on what I've heard in interviews with Brian Burke, I'd be shocked if Kaberle was moved.


Burkie is just waiting for July 1st so he can sign the Sedin sisters, and maybe even Ohlund too.

[91_dnulasN]

I wonder if Eklund has two hats throws names in one and teams in the other. Then pulls one name and a few teams and then posts it.

No, watch his stupid twitter video's... he writes things on tennis balls then throws the tennis balls at his lazy ******ed dog which really just sits there and looks at him like "wow, Even I think you are a ****** bag"

[91_dnulasN]

Burkie is just waiting for July 1st so he can sign the Sedin sisters, and maybe even Ohlund too.

I still think the Sedins are staying, and if this team goes anywhere deep in the playoffs and they preform like they have been, they'll get their Kwan.

Burrows, if he keeps this up may well play himself out of vancouver as someone will overpay the bejesus out of him (See Carter, Anson). That said I think Bur will end up with a 2-2.5 deal

Ohlund is gone, and its sad cause a LOT of fans are turning on him like they did Naslund in the early days, Same for Bieksa, who is getting the Special Ed (Jovo) treatment.

[dallasstars06]

McKenzie says Pronger has interest from Boston, NJ, SJ and Calgary
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=268395

Calgary? Common Bob, we all know Lauren won't live in Canada... ever. And she does wear the pants after all.

hahaha.. yeah and there is no way on Earth they send him somewhere in the divison.

[bigcheez99]

Pretty noteworthy trade just made between the Pens and Ducks:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=268759&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

[PrimeBane]

Nice move for Pitts in picking up Kunitz

[Eazy-D66]

Not to sound like a homer or anything but I would think it would be hard for anyone to bash this trade for the Pens considering we now have a decent winger for Crosby (or Malkin but I would imagine Crosby seeing as how Sykora plays well with Geno), a great prospect in Tangredi (I'm pretty sure he jumps to the top of the pile for our farm system actually) and we got rid of Whitney and his ridiculous salary.

This definietly signals a major move for the ducks as well with one of their big defensemen.

[freezerbox]

I think this trade is big in more ways than one, it opens up the ability to trade Pronger a little more easily.

[Hornz Over Halos]

Steve Begin goes to Dallas for Doug Janik per TSN.

[PrimeBane]

The way Dallas revives struggling Habs, this could turn out well for Dallas.

[madcracker]

Bob's gonna have to pick up a forward at some point.

[glove-save]

I was listening to a conference call interview with John Davidson on NHL.com, He was saying that the next 3 games (They won last night) would dictate if they were buyers or sellers. Keith Thachuk would waive his no trade and his agent has a list of teams he would be willing to go to.

[glove-save]

Here is a quick look at the schedule up to deadline day

Friday, February 27, 2009

Montreal at Philadelphia
Los Angeles at Detroit
Pittsburgh at Chicago
Minnesota at Calgary
Tampa Bay at Vancouver

Saturday, February 28, 2009

Washington at Boston
Florida at New Jersey
Anaheim at Dallas
San Jose at Montreal
Toronto at Ottawa
Buffalo at NY Islanders
Colorado at NY Rangers
Carolina at Atlanta
Detroit at Nashville
St. Louis at Phoenix
Minnesota at Edmonton

Sunday, March 1, 2009

Philadelphia at New Jersey
Florida at Washington
Los Angeles at Chicago
Pittsburgh at Dallas
Tampa Bay at Calgary
Columbus at Vancouver

Monday, March 2, 2009

Colorado at NY Islanders

Tuesday, March 3, 2009

Philadelphia at Boston
Carolina at Washington
Florida at Atlanta
Los Angeles at Columbus
New Jersey at Toronto
Calgary at Ottawa
Pittsburgh at Tampa Bay
Edmonton at Nashville
Anaheim at Chicago
Detroit at St. Louis
Minnesota at Vancouver
Dallas at San Jose

[Elias_Devil]

They picked a real winner monday night...

Can't wait for the Devils to make a move.

[glove-save]

They picked a real winner monday night...

Can't wait for the Devils to make a move.

Does Scott Neidermyer head back to Jersey?

[Elias_Devil]

Does Scott Neidermyer head back to Jersey?

I'd like to hope so. Would much rather have him than Pronger

[J-Goalie]

I still think the Sedins are staying, and if this team goes anywhere deep in the playoffs and they preform like they have been, they'll get their Kwan.



nice jerry mcgwire reference :D

[Thorondor 33]

Crap!

I will be gone all day Wednesday so I guess I gotta sign up for text alerts from TSN.

[Rexy]

I hope Florida keeps JBO and makes a run this year.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Bruins and Ducks have discussed a deal involving Phil Kessel for Chris Pronger.

[glove-save]

I hope Florida keeps JBO and makes a run this year.

It is a catch 22 for Jacques Martin, Do you keep him and make your playoff run, knowing you will probably lose him July 1st, or trade him for guys that will help you now and in the future. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes, alot easier if you are out of contention.

[glove-save]

Bruins and Ducks have discussed a deal involving Phil Kessel for Chris Pronger.

Does that move make Boston better? I think they need to move Fernandez and use Rask as their backup

[91_dnulasN]

I hope Florida keeps JBO and makes a run this year.

It depends on what you get back TBH, Find a team willing to ungodly overpay and you can keep in playoff contention AND not lose him for nothing.

That said, If Im the panthers, I move him cause he will bring a good return

[PhillyWing19]

Flyers lose Ossi Vaananen to Canucks and Glen Metropolit to Canadiens as both are claimed off of Waivers:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11009

[glove-save]

It depends on what you get back TBH, Find a team willing to ungodly overpay and you can keep in playoff contention AND not lose him for nothing.

That said, If Im the panthers, I move him cause he will bring a good return


Jacques Martin wants a Top 6 forward, Top 4 D-man, and a combo of 2 Draft picks and/or prospects according to Randy Moller on NHL Live today

[91_dnulasN]

Flyers lose Ossi Vaananen to Canucks and Glen Metropolit to Canadiens as both are claimed off of Waivers:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11009

I love it, Ossi is a for sure Upgrade over Davison as our 7th Dman and possibly an upgrade over SOB for 6th, Free Depth Dman is always Good!

[91_dnulasN]

Jacques Martin wants a Top 6 forward, Top 4 D-man, and a combo of 2 Draft picks and/or prospects according to Randy Moller on NHL Live today

And if he gets that, I feel it makes the panthers Better TBH. I have NEVER been sold on J-Bo myself either, hes solid, but I just dont see him as "That Guy" that will push you over the hump.

[PrimeBane]

Jacques Martin wants a Top 6 forward, Top 4 D-man, and a combo of 2 Draft picks and/or prospects according to Randy Moller on NHL Live today

Pretty steep for a possible rental player... I agree with Nas, Jaybo is good but he's not a game breaker.

[glove-save]

Pretty steep for a possible rental player... I agree with Nas, Jaybo is good but he's not a game breaker.

And if he gets that, I feel it makes the panthers Better TBH. I have NEVER been sold on J-Bo myself either, hes solid, but I just dont see him as "That Guy" that will push you over the hump.


I disagree, Jay will get alot of Team Canada consideration, he plays 27+ mins a game on a average team. His stats are pretty good for a low scoring team. If he was in a more traditional market he would be talked about alot more. I put him in the same category as Phaneuf and Weber

DJay Bouwmeester (http://panthers.nhl.com/team/app?page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8470151&service=page) 61 12 19 31 +4 58

[ToightLikeATiger]

Does that move make Boston better? I think they need to move Fernandez and use Rask as their backup

I hate to get rid of Kessel but the Bruins have a lot of young talents and they cant keep them all. Kreicji is a better all around player so they would like to keep him over Kessel. So moving Kessel now and getting another stud defense guy would really help.

As for Manny they wont move him. They like having 2 veteran goalies who are very good. They are going for it this year so they will keep both goalies. Tim Thomas cant play a lot of games in a row so having the veteran backup makes it less of a downgrade.

[brew]

Swiss site reporting Flames are interested in Gerber

http://www.slapshot.ch/slapshot-news.aspx?newsid=7553&navi=1

[Yzerman19c]

Steve Begin goes to Dallas for Doug Janik per TSN.

Janik now on waivers so it was a straight salary dump for the Canadiens.

[Hornz Over Halos]

Not sure if it's already known or been posted, but the Nux claimed Ossi Vaananen off waivers from Philthy.

Also, Les Hab claimed Glen Metropolit off waivers from Philthy.

[91_dnulasN]

Not sure if it's already known or been posted, but the Nux claimed Ossi Vaananen off waivers from Philthy.

Also, Les Hab claimed Glen Metropolit off waivers from Philthy.

Read the thread Scrub Cakes! :D

[PrimeBane]

Avery to hit re-entry waiver on Monday
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=268940&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_main

It will be interesting to see which team is desperate enough (other than the Rangers), to pick up this cancer.

[ShakesO]

Well, I may legitimately be home sick on wednesday! I'm grinding through a bug right now as we have our RRSP deadline at the bank... any other time of year and I'd be staying home tomorrow and monday. I want just enough energy to make it through the busy days.

If I'm still sick on tuesday, I'll get to spend weds watching deadline deals! wooo! lol

[glove-save]

Sources tell TSN defenseman Derek Morris has given Phoenix Coyotes general manager Don Maloney a list of teams he would be willing to lift his no-trade clause to join.

In the meantime, Morris has decided it is best to not play and risk injury before a deal goes down, therefore he is not expected to be in the lineup tonight when the Coyotes host the St Louis Blues.

Morris is in the final year of a contract with the Coyotes that pays him $3.95 million.

[Attack2000]

Bill Guerin about to be moved out of Long Island?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=269203&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

[Rexy]

Yea. Guerin did not play tonight.

Ek has Washington(e4) and e3 for Pitt and Buffalo...and a DEF NOT for Philly,NJ, or Boston...



.....I say he goes to Philly, NJ, or Boston...:p

[PhillyWing19]

Flyers don't have enough cap room, so unless they move bodies, I don't see that happening.

I

[Elias_Devil]

Yea. Guerin did not play tonight.

Ek has Washington(e4) and e3 for Pitt and Buffalo...and a DEF NOT for Philly,NJ, or Boston...



.....I say he goes to Philly, NJ, or Boston...:p

I heard his things got shipped to NJ which would mean NJ Florida or Philly

[ShakesO]

Geurin is still playing :p?

[ShakesO]

It is a catch 22 for Jacques Martin, Do you keep him and make your playoff run, knowing you will probably lose him July 1st, or trade him for guys that will help you now and in the future. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes, alot easier if you are out of contention.


Trade him. Unless you will 100% sign him, you trade him. That's not even the business side - you could get 0 return on value, and I don't think the Panthers have what it takes to go all the way this year. So, I don't want to say 'quit' on the year, but definately don't lose your best asset for nothing because you're chasing a pipe dream...

[Rexy]

The Panthers aren't where they are because of JBO. Would losing him hurt? Sure, but you will get a ton in return. They could very well make the playoffs this year. The Rangers are still sliding and they are not any worse off then Buffalo and Carolina.

[Attack2000]

Guerin is a goner, and I doubt he goes to a Atlantic division rival.

There should be alot of deals go down, but I doubt it will happen until tuesday, because alot of teams are looking at defenseman, and they are waiting for the "hammer to fall" the hammer being Chris Pronger. Once Pronger goes, the flood gates should open(Kaberle, Bouwmeester,etc)

[ShakesO]

Guerin is a goner, and I doubt he goes to a Atlantic division rival.

There should be alot of deals go down, but I doubt it will happen until tuesday, because alot of teams are looking at defenseman, and they are waiting for the "hammer to fall" the hammer being Chris Pronger. Once Pronger goes, the flood gates should open(Kaberle, Bouwmeester,etc)


There is a decent thought from TSN on that matter. Pronger may not be traded at the deadline. Ducks could very well sit and wait to see if Neidermayer comes back this summer and could trade him Pronger then. Teams in a panic would probably pay more for Pronger I suppose, maybe he's more valuable on deadline day.

[Hornz Over Halos]

Guerin is a goner, and I doubt he goes to a Atlantic division rival.


That's what I think too.

I doubt he'll go to Philthy or NJ, but I could see him going to Washington to give them some veteran presence.

The Islanders Captain Curse continues.

If you get named Captain on the Island, pack your **** in the next couple years. If I remember correctly, the last 4 (including Guerin) out of 6 captains got shipped out.

Bryan McCabe
Trevor Linden
Michael Peca
Bill Guerin

Yashin was just plain old booted.

[glove-save]

A somewhat bizarre chain of events occurred Saturday night involving New York Islanders' forward Bill Guerin. Guerin was pulled from the team's lineup after the warmup, just prior to the game against the Buffalo Sabres.

According to a source, Guerin is not hurt and there is a strong belief he was taken off the ice and out of New York's lineup in order to wait for a trade.

The forward was still waiting on word from the Islanders on Sunday morning.

Guerin, who would be an unrestricted free agent on July 1, has a no-move clause and sources close to the veteran forward say he has not yet been asked to waive it.

According to www.islanderspointblank.com, sources say the Islanders have a deal in principle to send Guerin 'to an Eastern team' which would be finalized on Sunday. The report indicates the Islanders would receive an early-round draft pick in return.

Sources tell TSN that Guerin has been told he likely will not learn which team has expressed interest until the morning, as the Islanders work on finalizing a deal. However, if a deal is in the works, the Boston Bruins are not involved in the trade.

A trade cannot go through without Guerin's consent.

[Attack2000]

My best guess is that Bill Guerin is about to go to the Sabres or Hurricanes. Both are fighting for a playoff spot, both could use the addition of an experienced winger, and both have some salary cap space.

If I were to pick one, Bill Guerin will be a Carolina Hurricane !

[Thorondor 33]

Got set up with TSN to get NHL alerts to my phone. However, you only get a maximum of 10 messages per week but I am hoping they keep my informed of some of the bigger trades. And I'm sure I will hear about it on the radio.

[J-Goalie]

hope guerin goes to the canes =o)

[Yzerman19c]

From Darren Millard
While I am told Washington is not in the mix for Bill Guerin, the Capitals have scratched Michael Nylander Sunday afternoon. Nylander is not hurt.

[WingNut 25]

Strange situation with Guerin. The guy is far from an impact player these days so the whole situation just seems odd.

[avsfan21]

I dont get is why yank him from the lineup last night if you werent going to trade him until today.

[91_dnulasN]

Prevent Injury, if you know he;s willing to waive it and there interest why chance it. Plus if he;s out its a better chance for them in the Tavares Lotto (Although I think the Isle would be much better off with Hedman.)

[PrimeBane]

Rumor only... Smyth to the Flames.

I'd die a little inside if that happened. :(

[ShakesO]

Rumor only... Smyth to the Flames.

I'd die a little inside if that happened. :(

Then you'd get angry and burndown the Saddledome!

[cflames89]

Rumor only... Smyth to the Flames.

I'd die a little inside if that happened. :(

I hope not.

[Attack2000]

Then you'd get angry and burndown the Saddledome!

Quite frankly the Saddledome burning would be funny and Ironic.

[starscream's ghost]

i can't see the avs dumping smyth at this point. guys who are fas, yes. but smyth is too valuable to the team, especially since ian laperriere either won't finish the season with the team or will be shown the door because the avs gm is an idiot

[Attack2000]

yeah, but the Avs are on the bottom end of the league, and Smth is an FA, why keep him, if you could get somethig back?

edit... my bad.

[Eazy-D66]

Smyth is not a free agent....he has 3 years at 6.25 million per year left on his contract.

[PrimeBane]

Then you'd get angry and burndown the Saddledome!

I believe the words I used to the wife was "C4" and "Centre Ice" ;)

I hope not.

Looks at it this way... imagine for whatever reason Iggy left Calgary. Then by whatever other twist of fate, he ended up pulling on the copper and blue. That would make you want to puke no?

[ShakesO]

Quite frankly the Saddledome burning would be funny and Ironic.

As long as no one gets hurt :D

[ShakesO]

Looks at it this way... imagine for whatever reason Iggy left Calgary. Then by whatever other twist of fate, he ended up pulling on the copper and blue. That would make you want to puke no?

I don't think he meant it that way...

[Elias_Devil]

Rumor only... Smyth to the Flames.

I'd die a little inside if that happened. :(

The Devils telecast actually reported this around 2:30... don't know if they have inside information or if it was bad info.

[cflames89]

I believe the words I used to the wife was "C4" and "Centre Ice" ;)



Looks at it this way... imagine for whatever reason Iggy left Calgary. Then by whatever other twist of fate, he ended up pulling on the copper and blue. That would make you want to puke no?

No doubt. Not denying that at all. Just don't want to see that contract of his come to Calgary, that is all.

[91_dnulasN]

I feel for ya PB, Infact I'd probably be willing to help get you the C4...

[w00tiness]

I'm in, when do we blow up the 'dome?

[glove-save]

If the Flames are going to take a 6.25 cap hit next year, I would rather it be Cammalerri or Bouwmeester than Mullet Man..Just MHO

[cflames89]

If the Flames are going to take a 6.25 cap hit next year, I would rather it be Cammalerri or Bouwmeester than Mullet Man..Just MHO

Same here.

[Hornz Over Halos]

I know Tanner and I are the only ones who give a ****, but does anyone have any info on who the "mystery team" is that Guerin is going to?

[Yzerman19c]

I know Tanner and I are the only ones who give a ****, but does anyone have any info on who the "mystery team" is that Guerin is going to?

Dreger from TSN says that speculation is its Washington
Millard from Sportsnet says Washington is not in the mix

so in reality we have a whole lot of nothing

[Hornz Over Halos]

haha ... so far, the only team I've seen officially "out" is Boston.

[Oilers 11]

It angers me a little, but I'm mostly past it by now so in the end I don't think I'd care if Smyth came back to Alberta, but to Calgary, and not Edmonton. Rumor I heard in the car on the way to work this morning was, Ryan Smyth to Calgary for Lombardi, Top Defensive Prospect, and a 1st Round Pick.

[Hornz Over Halos]

It angers me a little, but I'm mostly past it by now so in the end I don't think I'd care if Smyth came back to Alberta, but to Calgary, and not Edmonton. Rumor I heard in the car on the way to work this morning was, Ryan Smyth to Calgary for Lombardi, Top Defensive Prospect, and a 1st Round Pick.


Way too much.

[Oilers 11]

Way too much.

I think it's a little high as well, but something could be coming back with Smyth in the trade.

[PrimeBane]

Apparently the Wild may move Backstrom if they aren't able to sign up... Washington was listed as the front runner. I heard this on Sportsnet last night.

[drunkenmstr]

the guerin to washington rumor makes little sense to me...

[Attack2000]

RUMOR: Tomas Kaberle to Boston for prospect Joe Colbourne, 1st RD Pick and 3rd RD Pick
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=269448&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main

[blazinblair]

Apparently the Wild may move Backstrom if they aren't able to sign up... Washington was listed as the front runner. I heard this on Sportsnet last night.

God two Nik Backstrom's on one team? The casual hockey fan is gonna be soo confused! ;)

[Thorondor 33]

God two Nik Backstrom's on one team? The casual hockey fan is gonna be soo confused! ;)

LOL, I was thinking the same thing.

[Thorondor 33]

No point in my Avs making any moves for a rental player, there is no point. I doubt we'll see playoffs this year.

[starscream's ghost]

you DOUBT the avs will see the playoffs? thor, they'd have to win every single game til the end of the season just to consider the playoffs

[tjcurrie]

I bet Guerin goes to Montreal. Dont know why but I can feel that one.
Anybody hear any Dallas rumors ? I have no idea what thyere gonna do. Last year was simple. Extra goalie, good enough to go on a run, trade for a scoring forward. This year, given the situation with injuries and on the playoff bubble, I have no idea.

[Thorondor 33]

you DOUBT the avs will see the playoffs? thor, they'd have to win every single game til the end of the season just to consider the playoffs

Never say never. That is why I say doubt.

[starscream's ghost]

Never say never. That is why I say doubt.
dude, give up the doubting part and join the rest of the fan base in reality

[tjcurrie]

I bet Guerin goes to Montreal. Dont know why but I can feel that one.
Anybody hear any Dallas rumors ? I have no idea what thyere gonna do. Last year was simple. Extra goalie, good enough to go on a run, trade for a scoring forward. This year, given the situation with injuries and on the playoff bubble, I have no idea.

[Thorondor 33]

dude, give up the doubting part and join the rest of the fan base in reality

I was kidding, I know the Avs aren't going to make the playoffs this year. Haven't you read any of my posts since I joined? I always say never. :D

[starscream's ghost]

ya know what the worst part about guerin not knowing where he's headed is? i have him in both my fantasy hockey leagues and i can't use him until he's with a new team since he's just sitting!

[avsfan21]

Is it just me or does it seem a bit quiet so far? I mean we have only had like 2 or 3 deals so far. I would have thought we got a few more by this time, but nothing.

[PrimeBane]

Anybody hear any Dallas rumors ?

The only Dallas rumor I've read, and it's quite rediculous, is that they are shopping Ribeiro and Richards.

[Attack2000]

Small trade just annouced...

Atlanta trades D Niclas Havelid to New Jersey for D Anssi Salmela.Havelid is due to be a UFA.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=269487&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_main

[kdmmw]

I heard alot of teams want to deal, but in order to make one they would have to make another. It could get interesting if teams start announcing two deals at a time.

[Elias_Devil]

Interesting. I really wanted to see what Salmela could do in the NHL. Don't hate this trade though.

[Attack2000]

Interesting read on tsn.ca. It talks about alot of solid rumors and players that may be on the move.
http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/?id=268952&lid=sublink06&lpos=topRelated_main

[avsfan21]

Small trade just annouced...

Atlanta trades D Niclas Havelid to New Jersey for D Anssi Salmela.Havelid is due to be a UFA.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=269487&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_main

I wonder what that will do to Tobi Enstrom as he and Havelid were pretty close.

[Scout1982]

Hopefully the trade gates open up on Wednesday and not any sooner. I have the day off and I am pumped for when the Oilers trade for Kovalchuk :)

[avsfan21]

Kovalchuk isnt going anywhere so I wouldnt get your hopes up.

[right between the eyes]

Hopefully the trade gates open up on Wednesday and not any sooner. I have the day off and I am pumped for when the Oilers trade for Kovalchuk :)

+1

[cflames89]

Boring ass build up so far.

[91_dnulasN]

If the Oilers get Kovalchuk, I will Delete my account and put a bullet in my head.

[avsfan21]

The Oilers dont really have anything to trade for Kovy. It is going to take a lot to get him out of Atlanta. It will have to be an offer that they just cant refuse to move him. It is going to take more than just draft picks and prospects.

[ShakesO]

If the Oilers get Kovalchuk, I will Delete my account and put a bullet in my head.


well that's a bit over the top... :p

[ShakesO]

in slightly related news:

A young buck in his first game just scored the winner to put the Isles over the Avalanche tonight.

The coach had this to say after game "Nice work kid, if you cost us Tavares you'll never play again"

[Attack2000]

I guess we know who's getting Tavares... Kansas City !

This better pick up, and Tuesday better bring some moves.

[PrimeBane]

The Oilers dont really have anything to trade for Kovy. It is going to take a lot to get him out of Atlanta. It will have to be an offer that they just cant refuse to move him. It is going to take more than just draft picks and prospects.

When you consider Kovy has 1 year left on his contract and rumors state he doesn't have any interest in re-signing there (sorry Holland), it will be in Atlanta's best interest to trade him either at the deadline or over the summer.

And I wouldn't say the Oilers have "nothing" to trade... I'm sure there are a few teams that would like to get their hands on Gagner, Cogliano, Grebeshkov or Gilbert should that be available.

[w00tiness]

When you consider Kovy has 1 year left on his contract and rumors state he doesn't have any interest in re-signing there (sorry Holland), it will be in Atlanta's best interest to trade him either at the deadline or over the summer.

And I wouldn't say the Oilers have "nothing" to trade... I'm sure there are a few teams that would like to get their hands on Gagner, Cogliano, Grebeshkov or Gilbert should that be available.

I wouldn't trade any of the players mentioned but, sadly, they're our best bargaining chips.

I wouldn't be sad to see Penner or Pouliot go. I'd be sad to see Horcoff go, but methinks he's overpayed and no one would want his salary.

What could we even get for Schremp now? His stock has tumbled so low.

[PrimeBane]

We couldn't get a bag of puck for any of Penner, Pouliot or Schremp now. :(

Unless Tambo can fleece a guy like Slats used to do, the Oil will have to give up good young potential to get a quality player back.

[avsfan21]

When you consider Kovy has 1 year left on his contract and rumors state he doesn't have any interest in re-signing there (sorry Holland), it will be in Atlanta's best interest to trade him either at the deadline or over the summer.

And I wouldn't say the Oilers have "nothing" to trade... I'm sure there are a few teams that would like to get their hands on Gagner, Cogliano, Grebeshkov or Gilbert should that be available.

The only way Kovy is leaving Atlanta this year is if they get a superstar in return. No way they deal him for what they got in the Hossa deal.

[PrimeBane]

TSN is speculating Pronger could be dealt to St. Louis either at the deadline or over the summer and Bouwmeester won't be dealt at the deadline.

[oilersRmylife]

The only way Kovy is leaving Atlanta this year is if they get a superstar in return. No way they deal him for what they got in the Hossa deal.


Swap superstars??? They would be in the same situation as they are now. They need to change it up and cash him in for young talent and prospects.....that's just the way it works.

[oilersRmylife]

Then you'd get angry and burndown the Saddledome!



I'd beat him to it. ;)

[avsfan21]

Swap superstars??? They would be in the same situation as they are now. They need to change it up and cash him in for young talent and prospects.....that's just the way it works.

But that isnt what is going to happen if they traded Kovy, which is why he wont be moved. They need an instant face to market. Right now Kovy is the only thing on the team that will put people in the stands. He was just made captain. I also wouldnt count him resigning with the team next year either. Everyone says he wont, but it would not shock me at all if he did. Unless he is just acting, he seems to like it here. Now next year at this time if they are no where close to being able to sign him than he might get shipped out, but no way he is moved this season unless as I said they get a deal that they just cant refuse, but they would need good NHL talent in return.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Why do Kovi rumours always hit a nerve with you, avsfan?

[Hornz Over Halos]

Why do Kovi rumours always hit a nerve with you, avsfan?



Because he's in the ATL and Kovy is all they have left.


Although, Waddell would look like a crook and a genius if they sent Lehtonen to PHI for van Riemsdyk as the silly rumors speculate.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Wild extend Backstrom for 4 more years...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=269561&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_main

[starscream's ghost]

wonder if that means they're giving up on keeping gaborik this summer

[Mats_44]

Wild extend Backstrom for 4 more years...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=269561&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_main

That's not a trade. :p :D

[w00tiness]

Lots of players on waivers:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=269562&lid=headline&lpos=secStory_main

Miroslav Satan, Brendan Morrison, Martin Gerber, Gary Roberts, Brenden Bell, Aaron Voros, Erik Reitz, Eric Perrin, Craig Adams, Jon Sim.

Flames claimed Lawrence Nycholat.

[starscream's ghost]

wow, kind of a surprising list, but not really considering what these guys haven't done all season

[cflames89]

wonder if that means they're giving up on keeping gaborik this summer

I am pretty sure that was a foregone conclussion.

[Attack2000]

I know the Canucks have been talking to Minny about Gaborik. VanCity has the cap space, resources to trade back, and Marian's very good friend, Demitra.

[cflames89]

That's not a trade. :p :D

It does mean one less player on the board though. :cool:

[91_dnulasN]

Jesus, Id Claim Morrison in a second, upgrade on the third line center spot over Wellfed.

I'd chance Satan as well. Vancouver have the cap room to claim both (And Roberts) and still have about a half mill in cap room to play with.

[Attack2000]

I'd love to see the Canucks claim one or more of these guys, bring Morrison back.