Who's more disappointing in these NHL playoffs?

[SEAHAWKS ROCK!]

I have a number of Sharks & Capitals on my Playoff Pool, and needless to say i'm going to be done awfully quick:mad::D

[Poochiesdead]

I would say the Caps. Yeah the Sharks won the President's Trophy, but the Ducks have been awfully hot. The Caps are playing the Rangers who everyone thought would be pretty much one and done.

[iggsplode]

i can deal with the sharks losing.. but not showing up is lame.. i think they've now passed the sens for alltime playoff futility.

[Paul755]

Sharks, simply because of expectations. Sure they have a chokers reputation. But this year was supposed to be different.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Caps. With all the hooplah over Ovenchicken and Semen I don't see how they're trailing this bad against a team with Sean Avery.

[freezerbox]

Joe Thornton was only visible last night in the sense he was on for all goals against (except maybe one?).

[Elias_Devil]

I'd go Sharks. I think the Caps are playing better but Henrik is stealing this series by himself.

[quiggle]

I'm sure you all would rather see Rangers vs. Bruins and not Capitals vs. Bruins.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

I would say the Caps. Yeah the Sharks won the President's Trophy, but the Ducks have been awfully hot. The Caps are playing the Rangers who everyone thought would be pretty much one and done.

I agree, I would say the Caps as well simply based on how the Rangers were playing down the stretch. At one point, I was almost certain that the Rangers would miss the playoffs and either the Sabres or Panthers would get in but the Rangers somehow held on and looked awful as they did it.

As for the Sharks, they had to play a Ducks team that had to play lights out just to get in and made the switch to Hiller during during that time (early March) so even though they have the record of an 8th seed, they have the make up of a team that's much better (a dominant scoring line: Perry, Getzlaf, Ryan, a shut down defense combo: Pronger and Niedermeyer and a great puck moving defenseman who's fit in really well: Whitney, plus of course a shut down goalie who is playing his best hockey of the season: Hiller).

[Ronzie]

Sharks.

I picked the Rangers to smoke Washington.

[maxxlouie]

I'm sure you all would rather see Rangers vs. Bruins and not Capitals vs. Bruins.

Bruins wouldn't play the Caps in the second round anyways. It's high seed vs low seed, not the bracket formation of the NBA.

[Elias_Devil]

Bruins wouldn't play the Caps in the second round anyways. It's high seed vs low seed, not the bracket formation of the NBA.

It doesn't matter, there's no format in which the 1 seed would play the 2 seed in the semis. I think he just meant later on in the playoffs.

[Mats_44]

Caps. With all the hooplah over Ovenchicken and Semen I don't see how they're trailing this bad against a team with Sean Avery.

Two words:

Henrik and Lundqvist (also known as Lundstrom in some circles LOL)

He is the ONLY reason the Rangers are up 3-1. The Capitals have dominated every game in this series and played very well.

[pellegrino6587]

Two words:

Henrik and Lundqvist (also known as Lundstrom in some circles LOL)

He is the ONLY reason the Rangers are up 3-1. The Capitals have dominated every game in this series and played very well.

so 50 blocked shots in 3 games means nothing? ok

[NFLfan Up North]

so 50 blocked shots in 3 games means nothing? ok

Blocked shots are great but they don't do much for your offense. The Caps have dominated this series and the only reason they are down 3-1 is because of Theodore and a mishandled puck by the backup in game 4.

[Mats_44]

so 50 blocked shots in 3 games means nothing? ok

LOL

[pellegrino6587]

LOL

laugh it up.

yes. henrik is outstanding. but. they are up 3-1.....so they must be doing something right. other then goaltending.

look at the blocked shots, look at the PK......look at avery:rolleyes:

[NFLfan Up North]

For the past decade the Sharks have been the Sens of the West. But the Sens made the Finals once Sharks have been the underacheivers of the decade.

[Elias_Devil]

Lundqvist is winning this series by himself. He stole games 2 and 4 which would mean that the Caps would be up 3-1 if it wasn't for him.

[pellegrino6587]

Lundqvist is winning this series by himself. He stole games 2 and 4 which would mean that the Caps would be up 3-1 if it wasn't for him.

yup

i was just looking at the caps messgae board.....LMAO

"ill contribute to the defense case for whoever shoots avery"
"i would not care if avery were to drop dead tomorrow"

haha. pathetic

[Celtic007]

I'd say the Capitals. The sharks seem to do this every year.

[Mats_44]

laugh it up.

yes. henrik is outstanding. but. they are up 3-1.....so they must be doing something right. other then goaltending.

look at the blocked shots, look at the PK......look at avery:rolleyes:

OK so because New York has blocked some shots that means they are playing a better series than Washington is???

Dude Washington has DOMINATED the play and the shots on goal in this series.

You can deny it all you want but fact is fact.

[Mats_44]

yup

i was just looking at the caps messgae board.....LMAO

"ill contribute to the defense case for whoever shoots avery"
"i would not care if avery were to drop dead tomorrow"

haha. pathetic

Yes you are right, Avery is pathetic. :p

The last game proves it. He acted like an idiot all game and did everything humanly possible to hurt his team's chances of winning.

Shoving his stick blade in Ovechkin's throat after the play was over. Ya that's brilliant. And no penalty called, Unreal.

Not so lucky at the end of the game though when he takes that moronic selfish penalty that had nothing to do with the play or stopping a scoring chance and you just see Tortorella on the bench shaking his head in disgust at his pathetic player. Mind you Tortorella is the idiot for putting him out there in that situation in the first place. What was he thinking??

Add that to the fact that Avery always sits at the very end of the team bench and the other players actually slide over away from him and leave a space on the bench between him and them and NOBODY ever talks to him and that tells you all you need to know about this guy.

Even his own teammates and coach don't respect him.

:D

[Thorondor 33]

There is instigating and then there is averygating.

[mapleleafsfan15]

Yes you are right, Avery is pathetic. :p

The last game proves it. He acted like an idiot all game and did everything humanly possible to hurt his team's chances of winning.

Shoving his stick blade in Ovechkin's throat after the play was over. Ya that's brilliant. And no penalty called, Unreal.

Not so lucky at the end of the game though when he takes that moronic selfish penalty that had nothing to do with the play or stopping a scoring chance and you just see Tortorella on the bench shaking his head in disgust at his pathetic player. Mind you Tortorella is the idiot for putting him out there in that situation in the first place. What was he thinking??

Add that to the fact that Avery always sits at the very end of the team bench and the other players actually slide over away from him and leave a space on the bench between him and them and NOBODY ever talks to him and that tells you all you need to know about this guy.

Even his own teammates and coach don't respect him.

:D

The truth just hurts.

[Mats_44]

If he is not benched next game I will be SHOCKED.

He is doing nothing to help his team win. He is only doing harm for his team by taking stupid selfish penalties.

He is not scoring goals, and is barely agitating the other team effectively. I don't see what value he is bringing. Just harm.

[NFLfan Up North]

If he is not benched next game I will be SHOCKED.

He is doing nothing to help his team win. He is only doing harm for his team by taking stupid selfish penalties.

He is not scoring goals, and is barely agitating the other team effectively. I don't see what value he is bringing. Just harm.

I'd be surprised if they do bench him. His play at the ned of last game was idiotic but other than that he's been one of the few Rangers who have shown any signs of life. He hustles, hits, and tries to agitate the other team. Torts will have a talk with him and keep him on a short leash but he will play.

[AMO28]

Are the caps outplaying the NYR's in most facets of the Game "YES" but to say that Lundqvist is doing It on his own Is questionable. He makes the saves but last time I checked he doesn't score any goals. The rest of the team must be doing something right. Their PK was #1 overall this season & it has been there again in the playoffs. Most of them have been killing off Avery's downright stupid penalties. Although I do agree that without Hank It's not 3-1. Now go ahead & bash me for my statements, I can take It..............I think
That being said I think It would be the Sharks. I think a lot more was expected of them in the playoffs.
The Caps D & Goaltending has been suspect all season. I picked the rangers to beat them & not just because I'm a NYR Fan but because I think they (the Caps) were beatable.

[pellegrino6587]

mr know it all. wow

i like him, and i think he is an asset to the team (no not a @$$ to the team). he takes the body, and is a hard worker when he isnt doing those things. to say he dosnt help the team is a lie and you know it. he creates scoring chances and fights in th corner and behind the net.

[Thorondor 33]

mr know it all. wow

i like him, and i think he is an asset to the team (no not a @$$ to the team). he takes the body, and is a hard worker when he isnt doing those things. to say he dosnt help the team is a lie and you know it. he creates scoring chances and fights in th corner and behind the net.

He doesn't help the team. Take not of the fine work he did in Dallas this past season.

and i think he is an asset to the team

Tell that to the entire Stars organization. Judging by the way the players talked, he was sure no asset there.

[pellegrino6587]

we will see what happens tonight

[pellegrino6587]

He doesn't help the team. Take not of the fine work he did in Dallas this past season.



Tell that to the entire Stars organization. Judging by the way the players talked, he was sure no asset there.

thats dallas. this is new york:rolleyes:

[Thorondor 33]

thats dallas. this is new york:rolleyes:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x260/durstlimpbizkit/Doh.jpg

[pellegrino6587]

what? the way i see it. he wasnt like by any team. and the whole marty/avery thing set it off for him. so why would dallas like him? he was liked in new york and alot of rangers fans hated when he left. so if dallas hated him, and he joined their team.....why would they like him?

now that hes abck in new york. fans love it. and the players like him.

[Thorondor 33]

what? the way i see it. he wasnt like by any team. and the whole marty/avery thing set it off for him. so why would dallas like him? he was liked in new york and alot of rangers fans hated when he left. so if dallas hated him, and he joined their team.....why would they like him?

now that hes abck in new york. fans love it. and the players like him.

The fans and players in Dallas didn't just hate him. They found reason to hate him.

[pellegrino6587]

The fans and players in Dallas didn't just hate him. They found reason to hate him.

like i said. thats dallas. this is new york. he is liked here.

[nucksfan]

That is laughable. He is liked??? Every single sports expert or panelist on Sportsnet, TSN or the Score (because Canadian TV has better hockey coverage) says the reason he sits alone on the end of the bench is becuase his teamates can't stand him, and that's ex-hockey players saying that. Everyone outside of the New York Rangers Execs (ie: Glen Sather) and their fans see Avery for what he is, a disgrace. The Rangers are leading this series on the basis of their goaltender and the fact that the Caps have hit many untimely goalposts.

like i said. thats dallas. this is new york. he is liked here.

Getting back to the original intent of this thread, I think the Sharks are the more disappointing. The fact of the matter is you can't win a Stanley Cup with Joe Thornton as your centrepiece, he simple doesn't have the heart. It's not a knock on him personally, he's by all accounts a great guy, but some players have "IT" and some don't and clearly, he doesn't. Remeber back in 2002, when he led the Bruins to the division title and no-showed in the playoffs? He's doing it again. Thornton is a great passer, but he's not a power centre, not a power forward, he's a perimiter player, he's never going to be a Iginla or Lecavalier. Unfortunatly, if he ever wins a cup it'll be when he's on the brink of retirement, making little money and being a 3rd or 4th line centre, a cog in the wheel, not the main piece, like Andreychuk was in Tampa. Still with the Sharks, why does Nabokov always IMPLODE during big games? I mean, it's not all on Joe's shoulders. Marleau, Boyle, Cheechoo have all disappeared, but Nabby is terrible in the post season.

[Thorondor 33]

like i said. thats dallas. this is new york. he is liked here.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x260/durstlimpbizkit/Doh.jpg

[Mats_44]

mr know it all. wow

i like him, and i think he is an asset to the team (no not a @$$ to the team). he takes the body, and is a hard worker when he isnt doing those things. to say he dosnt help the team is a lie and you know it. he creates scoring chances and fights in th corner and behind the net.

I repeat, even his own coach and teammates can't stand him. That's gotta be worth something right there..........

[Mats_44]

what? the way i see it. he wasnt like by any team. and the whole marty/avery thing set it off for him. so why would dallas like him? he was liked in new york and alot of rangers fans hated when he left. so if dallas hated him, and he joined their team.....why would they like him?

now that hes abck in new york. fans love it. and the players like him.

Haha are you joking?? He sits at the end of the bench and nobody ever talks to him!!

And now you have Torts vomitting on the bench in response to the penalties Avery is taking.

Haha ya he is liked in New York..........:rolleyes:

[pellegrino6587]

Haha are you joking?? He sits at the end of the bench and nobody ever talks to him!!

And now you have Torts vomitting on the bench in response to the penalties Avery is taking.

Haha ya he is liked in New York..........:rolleyes:

i did a vote on the new york rangers forum on avery. ill see in a couple of days what the FANS think

[Thorondor 33]

i did a vote on the new york rangers forum on avery. ill see in a couple of days what the FANS think

What the Hell do the fans have to do with it? It is the players and coach avoiding Avery on the bench. I don't see any fans down there.

[pellegrino6587]

What the Hell do the fans have to do with it? It is the players and coach avoiding Avery on the bench. I don't see any fans down there.

seeing how the FANS go to the games and see everything first hand. i would take their word over anyones on here. also, i said he was like by the fans and the team. so yea. the fans kinda have something to do with it

[nucksfan]

This is getting childish.

[silversurfur65]

Back on topic....I think the Sharks are a bigger disappointment.At least the Caps,especially Ovie,have been showing a decent effort !!

[SEAHAWKS ROCK!]

The other day i said to the guys at work that both the Washington vs. New York & the Blackhawks vs. Flames series are going to 7 games. I still stand by that. The Sharks are done.

[iggsplode]

This is getting childish.

are you really that suprised??

[oldskool]

Capitals

[Turrisrocks91]

I`ll tell you who isnt disappointing in these playoffs :p my mcfarlanes :p ive set up 1 on 1 match ups of the player from the team i want to win hitting a player on the other team or scoring against the other team and im 4-0!!!!! anyone want the caps to win tonight????

[PrimeBane]

Definitely the Capitals... the Ducks are no where near as bad as their record indicates.

[oldskool]

I`ll tell you who isnt disappointing in these playoffs :p my mcfarlanes :p ive set up 1 on 1 match ups of the player from the team i want to win hitting a player on the other team or scoring against the other team and im 4-0!!!!! anyone want the caps to win tonight????

Yeah make it happen..lol.:)

[Elias_Devil]

I`ll tell you who isnt disappointing in these playoffs :p my mcfarlanes :p ive set up 1 on 1 match ups of the player from the team i want to win hitting a player on the other team or scoring against the other team and im 4-0!!!!! anyone want the caps to win tonight????

So, you have Stevens bodychecking Staal? :p

[Poochiesdead]

So, you have Stevens bodychecking Staal? :pHe has Eric Staal running Brodeur. :D

[Elias_Devil]

:(

[Turrisrocks91]

nah i don't have a stevens :( tonight ill set up staal getting robbed by brodeur :D

[Elias_Devil]

Thank you :cool:

[Turrisrocks91]

Thank you :cool:

No problem :D yesterday i had lindros in a flyers uni checkin malkin over the bench and the flyers blanked the pens 3-0 :D

[Elias_Devil]

Have you been posting these? i haven't seen them.

[Turrisrocks91]

Have you been posting these? i haven't seen them.

nope only my friend saw them. it was kinda funny cause he kept asking me to set up a san jose guy so they would win but all my sharks are at my dads

[Thorondor 33]

I think the Sharks have been the most disappointing. I was expecting more from them, but once again they choke.

[cflames89]

i can deal with the sharks losing.. but not showing up is lame.. i think they've now passed the sens for alltime playoff futility.

Yep. At least the Sens made it to a Final.

I was expecting more out of the Caps, but I have the Sharks winning in most of my pools.

[Elias_Devil]

I think the Sharks have been the most disappointing. I was expecting more from them, but once again they choke.

That's another reason why it's not disappointing for the Sharks... it's nothing new to them. I want to see the Sharks do better, it's almost sad to see them fall apart like this year after year.

[Thorondor 33]

Yes, but with a coach who was an assistant to Bobcawk in Detroit I was expecting much more. And remember, the thread is not which is more shocking, or it is who is more disappointing. ;)

[oldboy26]

i don't see how the Sharks losing 3 to 1 is so shocking. I mean we are talking about the same nucleus that won the Stanley Cup just 2 years ago. Our defense is insane with talent(Nieds, Pronger, Whitney, Beauchimen, Wisnewski) and with one of the best lines in the league with Getz/Perry/Ryan, all it takes is for their goalie to get hot at the right time, and that is playoff time.

[SDhalcon]

If he is not benched next game I will be SHOCKED.

He is doing nothing to help his team win. He is only doing harm for his team by taking stupid selfish penalties.

He is not scoring goals, and is barely agitating the other team effectively. I don't see what value he is bringing. Just harm.

mr know it all. wow

i like him, and i think he is an asset to the team (no not a @$$ to the team). he takes the body, and is a hard worker when he isnt doing those things. to say he dosnt help the team is a lie and you know it. he creates scoring chances and fights in th corner and behind the net.

we will see what happens tonight

HaHaHa. All you're gonna see tonight is your hero on the bench as a Healthy Scratch. :cool::spawnskul

[NFLfan Up North]

I'd be surprised if they do bench him. His play at the ned of last game was idiotic but other than that he's been one of the few Rangers who have shown any signs of life. He hustles, hits, and tries to agitate the other team. Torts will have a talk with him and keep him on a short leash but he will play.

Rangers benched Avery and came out and played their worst period of the series. Avery works for the Rangers.

[oldboy26]

HaHaHa. All you're gonna see tonight is your hero on the bench as a Healthy Scratch. :cool::spawnskul

that would be stupid of them...

[SEAHAWKS ROCK!]

gameday bump:D