Update : Peavy Trade Is A No Go As Peavy Vetoes The Trade

[Chevy Man 22]

According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, the White Sox and Padres are nearing agreement on a trade centered around Jake Peavy.

As Tom Krasovic of the Union-Tribune reports, "Peavy met with Padres manager Bud Black late Wednesday night to discuss a trade overture from the Sox." He has to approve any potential deal. We'll keep you updated as more details steam in.


Interesting I wonder who would go the other way. You'd think it would be at least one big name and possibly a prospect maybe 2.




*Edit*

Jake Peavy vetoed the trade so as of now it's dead in the water.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out who the Chi-Sox would give up...I mean obviously San Diego needs a little bit of everything so I'm kinda wondering who would go first.

[Chevy Man 22]

Maybe Dye since he's older than dirt and this is the last guaranteed year of his contract. They have a mutual option for 2010 whatever that means with a $1 million buyout .

To early for them to give up on Ramirez and they'd be insane to trade Quentin. Other than those guys not really a lot of established guys on the White Sox roster that would be worthy of Peavy straight up.

Only other way I can see it going down is the Pads taking a lesser guy like Brian Anderson or Dwayne Wise and a boat load of prospects.

[kruzer31]

The rumor here in Chicago is it is pitchers Clayton Richard and a pitching prospect named Aaron Poreda

JEFF

[Durstlimpbizkit]

I don't think Quentin would be an option right now anyway with his heel issue.

[Chevy Man 22]

The rumor here in Chicago is it is pitchers Clayton Richard and a pitching prospect named Aaron Poreda

JEFF

Wow hope the Sox wear protection while they giving it to the Pads in the rear. :D

[TastySweetNutz]

Interesting since Peavy has always stated that he would prefer to stay in the NL. Everyone linked him going to Chicago but not the southside.

[jiggacrazy]

Dye is a Tiger killer, so I'd like it if he got traded.

[Chevy Man 22]

There are rumors that the Padres are in talks with the Mariners to snag Yuniesky Betancourt. No word on who the M's would get at this point though.

Not even the end of May and it looks like the Pads are already packing it in so don't be surprised when Adrian Gonzalez gets moved at the trade deadline. I hate the Red Sox but IMO if they could land Gonzalez to replace Papi's broken bat they'd be unstoppable.

[stickboy]

SI says it's a done deal if he waives his no trade clause.

[TastySweetNutz]

There are rumors that the Padres are in talks with the Mariners to snag Yuniesky Betancourt. No word on who the M's would get at this point though.

Not even the end of May and it looks like the Pads are already packing it in so don't be surprised when Adrian Gonzalez gets moved at the trade deadline. I hate the Red Sox but IMO if they could land Gonzalez to replace Papi's broken bat they'd be unstoppable.

Gonzalez is only accounting for a little over 3 million so I'd be surprised to see the Pads move him this year unless they're bowled over with an offer.

[zurita54]

The only way they should trade Peavy is if Giles is included. Damn that guy is such a waste of money. And no Adrian is not gonna get traded. He's a SD native, an every day player, and gets paid peanuts so his contract is easy to manage.

[Chevy Man 22]

I know Peavy would prefer to stay in the NL but at this point if I was him I'd just want this to be over with so he can get his focus back on baseball because it's obvious the Padres no longer want him around.

[kruzer31]

We are hearing in Chicago that Peavy doesnt want to ptich for Ozzie, doesnt want to play in the AL, wants to play for the Cubs or Brewers. What a big *** P#$%*ssy

[ToightLikeATiger]

Peavy wont waive his no trade clause to pitch for the White Sox. If he is going to waive it he will want to go to a team that has a chance to win it all. White Sox have no chance of winning the World Series.

[kruzer31]

Peavy wont waive his no trade clause to pitch for the White Sox. If he is going to waive it he will want to go to a team that has a chance to win it all. White Sox have no chance of winning the World Series.

If they get Peavy they have as good a shot as any team in the AL Central to win that division. Once you make the playoffs, anything can happen. Guess you never played baseball

JEFF

[zurita54]

We are hearing in Chicago that Peavy doesnt want to ptich for Ozzie, doesnt want to play in the AL, wants to play for the Cubs or Brewers. What a big *** P#$%*ssy

He has said all along that he would rather stay in the NL and to make it worse the Sox have a worst record than the Padres. So yeah I guess you're right that makes him a big whatever you called him.

[BIGG-AL]

We are hearing in Chicago that Peavy doesnt want to ptich for Ozzie, doesnt want to play in the AL, wants to play for the Cubs or Brewers. What a big *** P#$%*ssy

He's a P#$%*ssy as you say cuz he wants to hit? Sorry, I always thought Pitchers were cowards because they wanting to pitch in the American league where they never face who they hit with a pitch? He even likes Chicago, just not the Sox or Ozzie..

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Peavy wont waive his no trade clause to pitch for the White Sox. If he is going to waive it he will want to go to a team that has a chance to win it all. White Sox have no chance of winning the World Series.

I think you've completely missed this one.

You got the part about his trade clause correct, but Peavy is the only person who would allow him to be traded to Chicago, and he's expressed that he wants to stay in the NL, and he doesn't want to face the DH.

But you never know, I'd say the chances aren't good, but things have a habit of happening despite what a lot of us think around here.

[rupy017]

We are hearing in Chicago that Peavy doesnt want to ptich for Ozzie, doesnt want to play in the AL, wants to play for the Cubs or Brewers. What a big *** P#$%*ssy

YEAH!!!!!

[ToightLikeATiger]

If they get Peavy they have as good a shot as any team in the AL Central to win that division. Once you make the playoffs, anything can happen. Guess you never played baseball

JEFF

Ive played baseball...so much for that attempt at an insult. As for the White Sox....getting Peavy doesnt make them a contender at all. Maybe they can win the AL Central but they arent even in the same league as the Red Sox, Yankees, Rays and Angels. 3 of those 4 teams will be in the playoffs. Which means the White Sox would have to beat 2 of those teams that are far better then them. Its not going to happen.

[Poochiesdead]

Don't blame Peavy, the Padres gave him the no trade clause. He has the right to play for whomever he wants. I wonder if you'd still be calling him a ***** if he was traded to the Pirates or the Royals or someone like that and not the White Sox.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Well there it is. I wonder if his ERA is gonna have any chance at improving since he's going from a hitter's park to a pitcher's park. And now he has to prepare completely differently in terms of the DH.

Oh well.

[rupy017]

Well there it is. I wonder if his ERA is gonna have any chance at improving since he's going from a hitter's park to a pitcher's park. And now he has to prepare completely differently in terms of the DH.

Oh well.

US Cellular is NOT a pitcher's park.

[zurita54]

US Cellular is NOT a pitcher's park.

I think he made a mistake and meant it the other way around. Petco is the pitcher's park and US Cellular is the hittler's park.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

I think he made a mistake and meant it the other way around. Petco is the pitcher's park and US Cellular is the hittler's park.

Yup, made the mistake, meant the other way around obviously.

[Hardcore Legend]

Poor Cubs fans. They think this gives them hope.

[SunDevil]

No Gordon Beckham in the deal. that would be a deal breaker for me if i was the Padres

[rupy017]

Poor Cubs fans. They think this gives them hope.

Poor Cub fans? For what? Being 3 games out?
You're right. Season's over. Brewers win the division.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Poor Cub fans? For what? Being 3 games out?
You're right. Season's over. Brewers win the division.

Don't say that, then I'd have to deal with all the people here that think they're gonna win it all this year already.

[rupy017]

Don't say that, then I'd have to deal with all the people here that think they're gonna win it all this year already.

Hey. Apparently, Hardcore thinks the Cubs have something to worry about.
3 games out in MAY with our best hitter sidelined? What's to worry about?

[plum29]

i wish Atlanta would get involved and give up Francoeur and JoJo Reyes.

Frenchy stinks. his batting average is reminding me of Andruw Jones.

[rupy017]

i wish Atlanta would get involved and give up Francoeur and JoJo Reyes.

Frenchy stinks. his batting average is reminding me of Andruw Jones.

If he's that bad, what makes you think the Padres want him?

[freezowave1978]

Even with Peavy the Sox would have no shot at the division. They can't consistently score enough runs (2nd last in the MLB in runs scored), and already under water in the standings.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

Even with Peavy the Sox would have no shot at the division. They can't consistently score enough runs (2nd last in the MLB in runs scored), and already under water in the standings.

But they've been getting nothing out of Gavin Floyd whatsoever, unless he has a significant mechanics issue, I can see the guy at least rebounding a little, not saying that will solve all their problems, but quality starts out of one guy can build confidence for an offense if they always have to come back after the starter takes the hill.

[plum29]

If he's that bad, what makes you think the Padres want him?

because a change of scenery might do him good, ala Andruw Jones with Texas, and he's got probably the best cannon arm in the outfield in baseball.

[freezowave1978]

But they've been getting nothing out of Gavin Floyd whatsoever, unless he has a significant mechanics issue, I can see the guy at least rebounding a little, not saying that will solve all their problems, but quality starts out of one guy can build confidence for an offense if they always have to come back after the starter takes the hill.

I still don't see it happening unless Chicago got to play Detroit every day (man they kill the Tig's).

They have too many offensive players who are on the decline: Dye, Thome, Podsednik, etc. The other guy I'd worry about is Contreras. He's old, and gets paid a ton.

[freezowave1978]

i wish Atlanta would get involved and give up Francoeur and JoJo Reyes.

Frenchy stinks. his batting average is reminding me of Andruw Jones.

No one wants Francoer.

[kruzer31]

Ive played baseball...so much for that attempt at an insult. As for the White Sox....getting Peavy doesnt make them a contender at all. Maybe they can win the AL Central but they arent even in the same league as the Red Sox, Yankees, Rays and Angels. 3 of those 4 teams will be in the playoffs. Which means the White Sox would have to beat 2 of those teams that are far better then them. Its not going to happen.

Just like when we couldnt beat BOS and the Angels in 05, and we went 11-1 in the postseason. All I am sayin is this helps us in the division and anything can happen in post season.

JEFF

[lancer20]

Just like when we couldnt beat BOS and the Angels in 05, and we went 11-1 in the postseason. All I am sayin is this helps us in the division and anything can happen in post season.

JEFF

Which is why I am very happy to see him block the trade. Keeping an ace out of the Tigers division is always good news. I have a feeling the central is gonna be a tight race all year...possibly involving all 5 teams, although 1 or 2 usually drop off.

[tykke05]

We are hearing in Chicago that Peavy doesnt want to ptich for Ozzie, doesnt want to play in the AL, wants to play for the Cubs or Brewers. What a big *** P#$%*ssy

Would love to have him here in Milwaukee! (even though would prefer Halliday, but he ain't goin' nowhere). Maybe his old buddy Hoffman can pursuade him to come over. Don't know what the Brewers would have to give up to get him though seeing as we gave up LaPorta for CC last season. Gamel is the future at 3rd. Escobar is the future at SS. Doesn't leave much else as far as prospects go. Maybe offer up JJ Hardy and some other prospects and bring up Escobar? I don't know how the Padres are at SS though. Would have said that Prince was expendable before the season started, but he's happy now and playing very well, plus they don't really have a solid back-up at 1st.

[kruzer31]

Which is why I am very happy to see him block the trade. Keeping an ace out of the Tigers division is always good news. I have a feeling the central is gonna be a tight race all year...possibly involving all 5 teams, although 1 or 2 usually drop off.

He has not blocked anything yet

[chucknorris666]

would YOU want to work for Ozzie?

[Durstlimpbizkit]

would YOU want to work for Ozzie?

No.

[kruzer31]

would YOU want to work for Ozzie?

If i am makin the money Peavy is, I could give a poop who the heck was runnin the team. The fact is , Ozzie has a ring on his finger, and with Peavy the Sox should become a huge factor in the AL Central

[lancer20]

He has not blocked anything yet

opps, thats what i got from the thread title. Well, here's to hoping he does!;)

[amador_o]

would YOU want to work for Ozzie?

I would.

[raydrfn]

Peavy called White Sox right-hander Scott Linebrink last night for his opinion about going to Chicago and got strong feedback, Gammons reported.

"Jake called me [Wednesday] afternoon to ask about what it's like here in Chicago," said Linebrink, according to ESPNChicago.com's Levine. "I think he's ready to move on, but I can't tell you for sure he's going to accept the deal. Losing 100 games, like they did last year, wears on a player.

"Right now, I'd say it's 50-50 as to whether he accepts it or not. He'll get with his family today and make a decision."

Linebrink was Peavy's teammate in San Diego.

[Durstlimpbizkit]

I wonder if Peavy will accept the trade just for the sake of trying to leave after a certain period of time.

[rupy017]

No one wants Francoer.

Thank you!!

[Poochiesdead]

According to his agent he's leaning towards no:"If I had to make a bet on it, I would guess that Jake would say he's not ready to take that step today,'' Axelrod said. "But he wouldn't necessarily preclude it at any time in the future.

"We aren't hiding anything from anybody. Jake has a strong preference to stay in the National League. He has a comfort zone there, he's been successful, and he's won a Cy Young Award. I don't know that on May 21, that preference has eroded very much. From our point of view we may say, 'Let's give [the Padres] more time and see if a National League team might step up over the next six weeks.'


''If this were any one of three or four other teams and they called about him, Jake would jump at it. He would be willing. They know who they are. They know that certain places are more enticing to him.''

[rupy017]

Basically, he says....
The White Sox suck and I don't want to go there.:):)

[SDhalcon]

Looks like the Padres fire sale is beginning. According to a local SD sports web site, they are reporting Jody Gerut to the Brewers for Tony Gwynn Jr.

Horrible move if true. Junior IS NOT his dad. I watched him for years in Nashville. This is simply a PR move to try to put butts in the seats. Just a ploy by our inept front office to pull in the uneducated fan, who sees only the name and feels nostalgic.
While rumors continue to swirl about a possible Jake Peavy deal to the Chicago White Sox, the Padres have made another trade today to bring a local favorite home. Sources close to the situation have told 619sports.net that the Padres have acquired outfielder Tony Gwynn Jr. from the Milwaukee Brewers in exchange for outfielder Jody Gerut. The deal has not yet been announced by the team but Gwynn Jr. has been informed of the trade.

Gwynn Jr., 26 years old, has been playing this year for Milwaukee's Triple-A affiliate in Nashville, where he is hitting .309. He is a career .248 hitter in limited time with the Milwaukee Brewers. Gerut, 31, batted .223 with 4 HR and 14 RBI for the Padres this season.

619sports.net's Craig Elsten and Chris Ello will podcast shortly on this topic as well as the rumored Peavy-to-Chicago deal. Stay tuned

[snedden001]

The Padres need an organizational overhaul from bottom to top. If they are going to trade Peavy, they better get 3-5 legit major league prospects if not a few guys who are ready to play everyday right now. They need to rebuild that farm system. Do not do what the Pirates did with Bay last year. We got nothing out of that deal. Moss is a backup OF'er at best, Hanson is trash. At least we got 2 legit starting pitchers anda a HUGE upside player in Jose Tabata for Nady.

[SDhalcon]

The Padres need an organizational overhaul from bottom to top. If they are going to trade Peavy, they better get 3-5 legit major league prospects if not a few guys who are ready to play everyday right now. They need to rebuild that farm system. Do not do what the Pirates did with Bay last year. We got nothing out of that deal. Moss is a backup OF'er at best, Hanson is trash. At least we got 2 legit starting pitchers anda a HUGE upside player in Jose Tabata for Nady.

Yeah, but where did you get Bay from? Padres gave him up (plus Oliver Perez) for Giles. I'd say the Pirates fared much better than we did in that trade. And Nady was a Padre, we sent him to the Mets, then NY sent him to you. Looks like you've made out pretty well with former SD players.

[Chevy Man 22]

Thank you!!

No one wants Francoer.


Yeah tell me about it took a chance on his with my fantasy team this year and man he's stunk it up. I truly can't see him being in the majors much longer when they got Heyward and Hernandez waiting in the wings in AAA.

[raydrfn]

Basically, he says....
The White Sox suck and I don't want to go there.:):)

Would you rather he go to the Brewers or the Cardinals? :D

[RaiderFan18]

Obviously, if someone is gonna trade for Peavy the Padres are gonna make them give up the farm, they aren't gonna take on any aging vets.

[ChrisF34]

Gwynn and Gerut are washes---good deal for Pad's as atleast Gwynn is cheaper and under contol longer.

On the other hand, Peavy isn't going anywhere. Peter Gammons just told me over a pint of Guiness.

He's going to Florida according to Gamms,( my nickname for ole Pete).

[Hardcore Legend]

Would you rather he go to the Brewers or the Cardinals? :D

Yeah, that's the thing. The Cardinals and Brewers are in a better position to acquire Peavy than the Cubs. If the Cubs could get him, they would have made the deal in the off-season.

[Chevy Man 22]

If he goes to a NL team I think it would be the Brewers because Hoffman is there also and they played together for so long. He could be this years C.C. Sabathia .

[plum29]

Atlanta should make a play.

trade:
Frenchy
The Kotchman
JoJo Reyes

for:
Peavy

and that's all.

knowing the Braves, Peavy will go back to San Diego or sign a huge contract with the Yankees or Red Sox.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Atlanta should make a play.

trade:
Frenchy
The Kotchman
JoJo Reyes

for:
Peavy

and that's all.

knowing the Braves, Peavy will go back to San Diego or sign a huge contract with the Yankees or Red Sox.

That is a horrible trade for the Padres. Why would they want Kotchman or Francoeur? They already have Adrian Gonzalez at 1B for cheap money. Francoeur is a nobody now.

The Padres can do far better then that deal.

As for Peavy....the Red Sox wont be interested in him. They already are stocked with pitching. Beckett, Lester, Matsuzaka, Masterson, Bucholtz and Bowden are all guys that will be in the rotation. If the Red Sox go after veteran pitching it would be like they did this offseason (guys like Penny and Smoltz who are low risk/high reward.).

[SDhalcon]

Gwynn and Gerut are washes---good deal for Pad's as atleast Gwynn is cheaper and under contol longer.

On the other hand, Peavy isn't going anywhere. Peter Gammons just told me over a pint of Guiness.

He's going to Florida according to Gamms,( my nickname for ole Pete).

I agree they are pretty much a wash. But because of his name, the expectations will be huge. He's doomed to fail here.
Like I said, I worked for the Nashville Sounds for a few years. I saw him play everyday in AAA and quite often in AA Huntsville. He is far too inconsistent, and strikes out a ton, while providing little more than above average speed on the base path.
He's a poor man's Juan Pierre. But, we're poor, so I guess we'll have to take him.:eek::p

[trinity231]

If i am makin the money Peavy is, I could give a poop who the heck was runnin the team. The fact is , Ozzie has a ring on his finger, and with Peavy the Sox should become a huge factor in the AL Central

Jake will continue to make that amount of money no matter who he plays for. He feels more comfortable playing in the NL, he knows the hitters a bit better, the ballparks, etc.

Ozzie may have a ring, but he's won one playoff game since winning it all.

[rupy017]

Atlanta should make a play.

trade:
Frenchy
The Kotchman
JoJo Reyes

for:
Peavy

and that's all.

knowing the Braves, Peavy will go back to San Diego or sign a huge contract with the Yankees or Red Sox.

I would think it would take more than that.
Doesn't Kotchman play 1B? What good will he do them?
There's NO WAY the Padres would take that deal. That's like one of the trade scenarios that appeared on the Cubs message board every day last year ABOUT Peavy.

Let's give them Ronny Cedeno, Felix Pie and 2 minor leaguers NOT named Vitters for Peavy.

At least, think your trade proposals through.

[Chevy Man 22]

Atlanta should make a play.

trade:
Frenchy
The Kotchman
JoJo Reyes

for:
Peavy

and that's all.

knowing the Braves, Peavy will go back to San Diego or sign a huge contract with the Yankees or Red Sox.


When you wake up from Fantasy Land let us know. lol


Besides that I would imagine the Padres asking price that included Escobar from last year hasn't gone down any and the Braves aren't exactly hurting at SP right now. And if they were they have young arms in Triple-A including Hanson.

[SDhalcon]

Atlanta should make a play.

trade:
Frenchy
The Kotchman
JoJo Reyes

for:
Peavy

and that's all.

knowing the Braves, Peavy will go back to San Diego or sign a huge contract with the Yankees or Red Sox.

Please just stop talking.
Sign a huge deal with NY or BOS? He's under contract through 2012, with a $22 mil option for 2013. So there goes that.:rolleyes:

[trinity231]

I would think it would take more than that.
Doesn't Kotchman play 1B? What good will he do them?
There's NO WAY the Padres would take that deal. That's like one of the trade scenarios that appeared on the Cubs message board every day last year ABOUT Peavy.

Let's give them Ronny Cedeno, Felix Pie and 2 minor leaguers NOT named Vitters for Peavy.

At least, think your trade proposals through.

Padres want pitching or big name position prospects...

[rupy017]

Padres want pitching or big name position prospects...

I KNOW!!
That was one of the deals the wannabe GMs on the Cubs message board kept coming up with.

[rupy017]

As bad as I wanted the Cubs to get him, I just don't think they have enough to get a deal done.
Any proposal would have to START with Vitters.

[Rexy]

The way the WSox are playing today should make Peavys decision easier.

[Chevy Man 22]

The way the WSox are playing today should make Peavys decision easier.

Yep 20-0 and counting lol

[rupy017]

Shouldn't they be trying to add some offense? Even if Peavy could give up 2 runs a game, who is gonna hit?

[plum29]

Sign a huge deal with NY or BOS? He's under contract through 2012, with a $22 mil option for 2013. So there goes that.:rolleyes:

If Alex Rodriguez can opt out of his deal for a bigger contract, what makes you think Peavy can't or won't?

also, if Boston or NY came in with bigger offers, Peavy would be gone today.

Atlanta should make a play for him, their SP isn't great and JoJo Reyes is terrible.

Glavine may come back
Hudson until August, by then we're out of the playoffs

and i don't think Atlanta wants to rush Hanson. look at Boston with Clay Buchholz from Boston. Ian Kennedy from the Yankees.

Atlanta needs to make a play somewhere if they want to make the playoffs, Peavy is an ace. Imagine if Atlanta can get Peavy, Hudson and Lowe......look out NL.

i still remember the rumor of Frency for Greinke. :(

[kruzer31]

Jake will continue to make that amount of money no matter who he plays for. He feels more comfortable playing in the NL, he knows the hitters a bit better, the ballparks, etc.

Ozzie may have a ring, but he's won one playoff game since winning it all.

Well, he must of done somethin right if they made the playoffs in 08

[freezowave1978]

Shouldn't they be trying to add some offense? Even if Peavy could give up 2 runs a game, who is gonna hit?

That's what I've said.

[Chevy Man 22]

Well at least we'll have some fun ESPN highlight tonight of Ozzie going on one of his cursing fits after the game is over. I feel sorry for the edit guy who's gonna be in charge of the bleep button. lol

[imaginegrafix]

On the other hand, Peavy isn't going anywhere. Peter Gammons just told me over a pint of Guiness.

What is with you and making stuff up?

Gammons was just on ESPN radio about 30 minutes ago and said the sticking point in the deal is the contract - Gammons wasn't sure, but he speculated that Peavy either wants the 2013 option year guaranteed and possibly another year added on.

[kruzer31]

Shouldn't they be trying to add some offense? Even if Peavy could give up 2 runs a game, who is gonna hit?

Maybe we can trade for Geo Soto and his .202 avg. to go along with the rest of our team.

[rupy017]

Maybe we can trade for Geo Soto and his .202 avg. to go along with the rest of our team.

I wasn't bashing them. I think it's pretty obvious that they're not hitting much.
Bash Soto all you want. He'll get his average up eventually. In the meantime, teams will continue to steal bases off of AJ.

[SDhalcon]

If Alex Rodriguez can opt out of his deal for a bigger contract, what makes you think Peavy can't or won't?

A-Rod had an opt-out clause built into his contract genius. Peavy has no such clause, that's why! He has a full no-trade clause for this year and next. A limited no-trade beginning 2011. The 2013 option is a team option, not his, with a $4 mil buy-out.

also, if Boston or NY came in with bigger offers, Peavy would be gone today.

What does this even mean?:confused: Are you saying that if those teams offered him a contract, he'd have signed with them? Like he was a free agent or something?
That would be considered tampering. He is playing under contract to another team. You can't just approach a player under contract, and offer them more money any time you want.

[UFCFan]

I see more people around the boards are starting to become aware of plum29's posting prowess. LOL.

[SDhalcon]

I see more people around the boards are starting to become aware of plum29's posting prowess. LOL.

Oh, I was aware. But the last week or so, his posts have become more and more absurd/outlandish.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Assuming this White Sox deal falls apart, the Padres have a really tough job here, they have to find a team he's willing to go to and one that's willing to take on the money he is owed (whatever's left of his $8 million salary this year along with $15 million in 2010, $16 million in 2011, $17 million in 2012 and the $22 million option with a $4 million buy out for 2013) while also willing to give up a couple of B to C level prospects. I don't know how you can put together a deal like this in season because there are so many kinks to work out.

I see more people around the boards are starting to become aware of plum29's posting prowess. LOL.

Hahahaha, my head just ASPLODED after reading that post, it's the first time I've heard of the "Anytime, Anywhere Opt Out Clause".

[plum29]

What does this even mean?:confused: Are you saying that if those teams offered him a contract, he'd have signed with them? Like he was a free agent or something?That would be considered tampering. He is playing under contract to another team. You can't just approach a player under contract, and offer them more money any time you want.

i mean trade offers.

and contract, ANYBODY can break them. look at Owens. you don't like it, then sit down and bam, either you're traded or a new contract.

[snedden001]

Again, if I'm the Padres GM any talks for Peavy START with the other teams top 1 or 2 pitching prospects plus a BA Top 100 Position Player. Very few teams have the farm system and deep pockets to swing this deal in May. I think once desperation sets in for some big money teams, the offers will get bigger and better. The Padres should be patient, if they wait until mid July this trade could be the big chip in their rebuilding, as it should be.

[Hardcore Legend]

Again, if I'm the Padres GM any talks for Peavy START with the other teams top 1 or 2 pitching prospects plus a BA Top 100 Position Player. Very few teams have the farm system and deep pockets to swing this deal in May. I think once desperation sets in for some big money teams, the offers will get bigger and better. The Padres should be patient, if they wait until mid July this trade could be the big chip in their rebuilding, as it should be.

That's not going to happen. He's owed way too much money for any team to give up their top prospects for a 5 inning pitcher.

[bjk311nh]

If they get Peavy they have as good a shot as any team in the AL Central to win that division. Once you make the playoffs, anything can happen. Guess you never played baseball

JEFF

Definitely. Chicago and Detroit will be the favorites with Minnesota and KC probably being a step behind. I certainly don't want to see him with CWS.

[snedden001]

They should get at least what the Indians got for Sabathia. The Padres have got to land a big time prospect, a guy that can either come up and play or be in the rotatyion by mid summer. They can't trade him for scraps. Although I would much rather see him with the White Sox than the Cubs, Red Sox or Yankees.

[Slappy White]

Just reported on The Score by the White Sox beat writer that the deal is off.

[SDhalcon]

i mean trade offers.

and contract, ANYBODY can break them. look at Owens. you don't like it, then sit down and bam, either you're traded or a new contract.

Wow, just wow. Are you really that clueless? You can't compare football contracts to baseball. The two leagues have completely different CBA's (Collective Bargaining Agreements).
Every MLB contract is guaranteed money for the duration, with the rare exception. In very few NFL contracts is the whole amount or length of contract guaranteed. Even then, in the NFL, a player can't just walk away from his contract and play for whomever he chooses, whenever he wants. It's still up to the team that controls his rights, whether they will re-negotiate, trade him, release him, or just let the player rot if they hold out. Ex., see the Anquan Boldin situation. Go ask him how that's worked out for him so far. If it were up to him, why hasn't he left yet?

[kruzer31]

Peavy says No

[Superman16343]

Even with Peavy the Sox would have no shot at the division. They can't consistently score enough runs (2nd last in the MLB in runs scored), and already under water in the standings.

Ditto

[Chevy Man 22]

via Rotoworld

Jake Peavy has vetoed a deal to the White Sox, according to multiple reports.

It's been known since the winter that Peavy wanted to stay in the NL, and the White Sox were an especially poor fit in two ways, in that they're hardly a certain contender and that they play in a big-time home run park. With the Padres obviously now committed to moving him, there should be other possible destinations more to his liking.

[Chevy Man 22]

I'm betting within a week we start hearing the Brewers and Cards rumors

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

No surprise there, the White Sox are pretty much done already.

[TheRiddler]

Peavy says No

Bum! We didn't want him anyway! :D :mad:

Seriously though, they should have tried to make this trade 3 or 4 weeks ago. Although, the hitting is so bad, probably wouldn't have made a difference.

[BIGG-AL]

I hope he veto's them all.

[ncblue79]

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[Japericho]

Peavy is to fragile so the white sox are better off without him.He has said in the past he wants to try and stay in the NL.

[kruzer31]

No surprise there, the White Sox are pretty much done already.

Glad our Blackhawks took out Calgary and Vancouver from up yonder

[iggypimpin]

he wants to stay in the jv league!

[kruzer31]

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Edgar Rentaria

[kruzer31]

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Here's Michael at the foul line...a shot on Ehlo..........

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

Glad our Blackhawks took out Calgary and Vancouver from up yonder

Huh?

[kruzer31]

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Ernest Byner,,,,Oh no you didnt

[Poochiesdead]

Huh?He thinks because you're from Canada you'll get all upset...

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

He thinks because you're from Canada you'll get all upset...

Maybe I will Poochie, maybe I will. :)

Haha, kind of sad when people get so defensive that they have to bring up something completely unrelated to the discussion just to "get back" at someone in their minds.

All I said is that the White Sox aren't so appealing right now as a landing spot so it's not surprising that Peavy vetoed the deal and the tempers start flaring. :D

[kruzer31]

Maybe I will Poochie, maybe I will. :)

Haha, kind of sad when people get so defensive that they have to bring up something completely unrelated to the discussion just to "get back" at someone in their minds.

All I said is that the White Sox aren't so appealing right now as a landing spot so it's not surprising that Peavy vetoed the deal and the tempers start flaring. :D

My apologies, it was a frustrating day for us Sox fans to say the least. Thought we were getting Peavey, got bushwhacked 20-1, then find out we dont get Peavy. Was just spittin fire without makin sense. Hope its all good

JEFF

[M-41A]

I am a damn Padres fan and I am pissed he stayed.

We are years from having a decent ball club because we have a cheap ball club.

I'd rather see my favorite pitcher in MLB playing for and winning 18 to 20 games a year on a championship calibre ball club rather than pitching a gem start in and start out only to lose due to a lack of TRUE run support.

[SunDevil]

I am a damn Padres fan and I am pissed he stayed.

We are years from having a decent ball club because we have a cheap ball club.

I'd rather see my favorite pitcher in MLB playing for and winning 18 to 20 games a year on a championship calibre ball club rather than pitching a gem start in and start out only to lose due to a lack of TRUE run support.

dude, it was a bad deal for the Padres. they were only getting one borderline legitimate prospect in the deal. they were just trying to take anything at that point. they could do better for Peavy.

[Random Task]

This Sox fan is not happy:

http://talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com/2009/05/peavy-officially-turns-down-sox.html

Wow bitter much?

As a Padres myself I know this day is coming but I don't think this is the deal they want to make. It's not "enough". Wait until later in the summer.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9598700/Peavy-will-be-better-served-to-wait

[bjk311nh]

Maybe I will Poochie, maybe I will. :)

Haha, kind of sad when people get so defensive that they have to bring up something completely unrelated to the discussion just to "get back" at someone in their minds.

All I said is that the White Sox aren't so appealing right now as a landing spot so it's not surprising that Peavy vetoed the deal and the tempers start flaring. :D

Agreed. While I don't agree the White Sox are done, his comeback was terrible. Typical reaction. Instead he should have brought up how Quentin is nursing an injury and how good Mark B has been. Instead, let's bash Canadian teams from a different sport because the guy is from Canada. Yeah....that'll teach him for stating his opinion on my favorite baseball team. :rolleyes: