The Official Cincinnati Bengals discussion thread

[Felty]

Bengals just released Peter Warrick today. Kind of a surprise, but not that much of a surprise.

So this means Washington and Henry duke it out for third receiver. I am not sold on Washington at all. I hope Henry gets the spot.

[Eric]

I'm sure the Bengals were thinking mostly about Warrick's salary when they released him, but I'm not sure I agree with dumping him. He played outstanding two seasons ago, and I have faith in the man that he can play that way again. The person I have less faith in is T.J. Houshmandzadeh. He's had one good year, and that got him a pretty fat contract. Before last year, he was not a good receiver. In fact, he was so bad (in my eyes) that I can't believe he was even held on to long enough to make an impact last year. So now he has one good year, gets his contract, and doesn't have to worry about anything until another contract year comes up. So far (I know it's just preseason) he's looking like his former self, the guy who drops balls and contributes little. But he's guaranteed the second receiver spot basically, and Warrick's on his way to a new home somewhere.

I don't know. If T.J. can play like he did last year, I think dumping Warrick was the right thing to do, only because of his large salary. But if T.J.'s gonna turn into his butterfingered self from a few years ago, I think we're all going to be wishing they'd given P-Dub a little more time.

[nevsky41]

The thing about cutting Warrick is the fact that he has degenerative injuries to his knee and shin. He will NEVER get back to his 2003 form, b/c the injuries he has, coupled together, are not the kind of injury you can come back from. He may remain a competent possesion guy, but don't look for muchn more than third WR play from him. He's too far on the decline to expect much more.

As for TJ, the entire offense has looked bad this preseason. I still have faith.

[Eric]

We took Tab Perry from UCLA late, and although I know nothing about him, I think a better choice would have been Dante Ridgeway from Ball State. Sure I'm biased because he played for my BSU Cardinals, but Dante's the real deal. He was a finalist for the top receiver award, beat out by number 3 pick Braylon Edwards. He's a bit undersized, but he can catch the football. I would have liked to see him go to my favorite pro team from my favorite college team.

Those were some of my comments about our draft class this year. The reason I bring it up is because I just read on Bengals.com that they've picked Ridgeway up off waivers from St. Louis. :eek: I was completely pumped when I read it on there. I don't know if they'll keep him because I know they have to cut more guys by Saturday, but if only for a little while, my wish for my favorite college player to play for my favorite pro team has come true , and that doesn't happen everyday. :)

[nevsky41]

Just b/c I'm a jersey junkie, anyone know what # Warrick is going to wear for Seattle? I'm guessing 14, b/c it's the only WR eligible number not already taken... (12 and 80 are retired)

[Eric]

Just b/c I'm a jersey junkie, anyone know what # Warrick is going to wear for Seattle? I'm guessing 14, b/c it's the only WR eligible number not already taken... (12 and 80 are retired)

Chances are you've heard by now, but I read that he wore #10 at practice this week. Not sure if he can/will wear that permanently, but that's what he wore first.

[nevsky41]

Anyone read the piece on Chad in the current issue in Sports Illustrated? Very mixed bag. I feel like SI rarely tries to write positive pieces on anyone, and they always try and do some kind of damage to anyone they write about. I'm not saying that Chad hasn't made any mistakes in his life, I think he's been fairly upfront about a lot of that stuff, but the tone SI uses to undermine their subjects just FEELS nasty and mean-spirited. I don't agree with Chad's decision to hire Drew Rosenhaus, and everything I've read about his current contract is that he has a better chance to take home the entirety of that $26 million than TO does to take home all that $49 million, but I can't speak for the guy. I think Chad is forgetting that the Bengals have a long histroy of rewarding their players who deserve it. After Boomer's MVP season in 88 the Bengals ripped up his contract and made him, at the time, the higest paid QB in the NFL. Chad keeps playing up to Pro Bowl form, and he'll get the payday he wants.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

[Eric]

I didn't think it put too bad of a light on Chad, but maybe I should read it again. I don't want my favorite player getting slighted by those pompous SI guys. :mad:

I was disappointed with SI's predictable picks, though. Not that I expected much, but I swear it seems like every magazine and television show picks the exact same teams to do well, the exact same teams to do poorly, and the exact same "surprise" teams. It really is a joke, and it just goes to show you that they know nothing more or have no more insight than your average football fan.

[shantyman88]

I thought the same thing about the SI article. It just seemed to be negative.

[Felty]

Palmer has looked really sharp so far. And Thurman is all over the field he is going to lead them in tackles.

akkkkk as i type this chad johnson just went down.

[Felty]

ok I can breath. Chad Johnson just leg cramp.

Thurman an INT!!!!

[Spazz]

only a cramp!

[lwagner57]

Bengal fan here since i was old enough to go to games at Riverfront in the mid 70's. Great game today! Lets keep it up. HUDEY!

[nevsky41]

UNDEFEATED, BABY!!!

Yeah, it's just 1-0, but how long has it been since we could say that?

Taped the game, probably won't get to watch the tape til tomorrow, but looking forward to it, sounds like it was a great game!!

Great to see Keiwan, one of my favorite Bengals, finally get an OFFICIAL interception!! Thurman sounds like he was on fire, I knew he was going to be great when I saw him at Training Camp. Steal of the draft, it you ask me!

Can't wait to watch the tape!

WHO DEY!!!

[dingdongdunn44]

just skip the 1st quarter nevsky, haha, after that was a great game. don't be too scared once you see chad go into the locker room. this has been the first time since 95 the bengals have opened the season with a W on the road.

[Eric]

Even the first quarter wasn't too bad. We didn't score, but by the end of it you could just feel that we were going to win the game. The first two Cleveland series and our own first series were the only downsides.

I was watching the game at my buddy's house, and he was playing Madden on Xbox when Chad got injured (he has two TVs in the same room). He saw it was a leg problem and told me how in his Madden season Chad got a broken leg in his first game and was out for the year. I was beginning to wonder if his season was gonna predict the Bengals' future when I saw them take Chad to the locker room, but thank goodness it was just a cramp. Tough break for my buddy though not having Chad in his season.

[BMATT]

Even the first quarter wasn't too bad. We didn't score, but by the end of it you could just feel that we were going to win the game. The first two Cleveland series and our own first series were the only downsides.

I was watching the game at my buddy's house, and he was playing Madden on Xbox when Chad got injured (he has two TVs in the same room). He saw it was a leg problem and told me how in his Madden season Chad got a broken leg in his first game and was out for the year. I was beginning to wonder if his season was gonna predict the Bengals' future when I saw them take Chad to the locker room, but thank goodness it was just a cramp. Tough break for my buddy though not having Chad in his season.

You see I knew the Bungals were being controlled by the gaming industry.. :D
how does it feel to have a state of the art stadium in a Kmart town????
I can say this I lived in Cincy all my life until I was able to escape the
mediocrity of it all. My father had season tickets from day one, ten rows behind the bungals bench, I got to meet Mike Reid and Greg Cook back in the day.
You need the resurrection of the Pope, world peace and green eggs and ham to pull off a winning season....sorry but the truth hurts.Tell P&G to shut down Ivorydale all of the fumes are affecting the minds of the masses.
Hudey hudey hudey think gonna beat those Bungals......E*V*E*R*Y*B*O*D*Y!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D

[nevsky41]

Originally posted by BMATT:
You see I knew the Bungals were being controlled by the gaming industry.. :D
how does it feel to have a state of the art stadium in a Kmart town????
I can say this I lived in Cincy all my life until I was able to escape the
mediocrity of it all. My father had season tickets from day one, ten rows behind the bungals bench, I got to meet Mike Reid and Greg Cook back in the day.
You need the resurrection of the Pope, world peace and green eggs and ham to pull off a winning season....sorry but the truth hurts.Tell P&G to shut down Ivorydale all of the fumes are affecting the minds of the masses.
Hudey hudey hudey think gonna beat those Bungals......E*V*E*R*Y*B*O*D*Y!!!!!!!!

Man, shut the **** up and get off this thread. This thread is for BENGALS FANS. Your presence here is not welcome if you only have negativity to add.

So why don't you go play hide and go **** yourself and stay the hell off this thread. :mad:

[dingdongdunn44]

haha well said nevsky, but let's be men about this and let chumps like that say what they may. don't let them get the best of ya man!

[BMATT]

Man, shut the **** up and get off this thread. This thread is for BENGALS FANS. Your presence here is not welcome if you only have negativity to add.

So why don't you go play hide and go **** yourself and stay the hell off this thread. :mad:

Sorwy just havin' a lil' fun at yur expense....maybe you didn't understand post completely but I was watchin' the Bengals before you were born and I can say what I feel in the moment. Being a fan means venting the good with the bad, I more than anyone would like to see the Bengals go all the way.......I've always had a soft spot for the underdogs!

[BMATT]

Again....I do not wish to offend....I hope the Bengals GO ALL THE WAY!!!!
And yes I am serious!! Good luck guys, I'll be in Cincy soon and I'll buy ya beers
just no hudy or little kings!

[Felty]

Wow what a great start to the game! :D

[collect5995]

BEAT THEM VIKINGS ... nough' said

[Spazz]

They are playing a great game today. Although there has been some stupid mistakes.

[Felty]

Wow big win.. 2-0!!!!!

Forced 7 turnovers!!!

Palmer was sharp again this week..

I am liking what I am seeing from Chris Perry to. We have another big play weapon. :D

My only complaint was all the penalities. But Marvin will work on that.

[Barry Sanders]

Another week another win. Who Dey. Thats all that matters. A mental mistake for Carson Palmer inside the 20. He just needs to calm down. The rookies looked good except for Pollack lining up offsides twice. But its all good Go Bengals.

[nevsky41]

STILL UNDEFEATED!!!!!

OMG, that game was ridiculous!! :O Except for the INT, I've got no complaints about Palmer. Looking AMAZING.

I didn't like all the penalties, but Marvin will definitely be on them about that.

WATCH OUT, BEARS!!!

[YzermanFan]

Run defense still makes me nervous but the defense as a whole looked good.
Thurman is going to be a beast. 2 forced fumbles today. When Pollack starts to settle in, their defense will be scary.
Chris Perry's (called back due to penalty) TD reception was amazing. Reminds me of the James Brooks/Ickey Woods era. One will flat out make a defender miss and the other is just a hard nosed runner. Deadly combo. Palmer still gets excited in the red zone but he's looking more and more like a leader. Huge play second play showed that. He dropped that pass in CJ's hand like it was a 10 yard pitch and catch. Chris Henry showed some promise and TJ had some great catches. A lot of weapons and they're well balanced.
If they come to play next week, and they look like they have the past couple of weeks, it should be a good week for Cincinnati.
I was nervous watching them in the pre-season but I'm liking what I'm seeing right now.
Who-dey…

[benganeer1]

It's awesome to see them finally get off to a good start, but, we've played 2 teams that are very weak defensively and have not played a team with stud running back. Let's see what they do offensively against a superior defensive team and if they can stuff the run against a few stud running backs, especially in our division, :eek: I'll be on E-BAY looking for SB XL tickets. :D

[Eric]

Good game all around other than the penalties. It's hard to believe we can take a franchise record number of penalties and still play as good a game as we played today. But as good as we played, the Viking were pretty much awful, so I hope no one's getting too big of a head yet. Let's take one game at a time and see where we end up, boys.

Who dey.

[General Johnny Wang]

Was Dallas not once 1-15 before they got some serious talent and created a Dynasty?

same thing is happening here.

[hockeyfightsguy]

How hard is it to get tickets for a game. Might drive up for the Houston game....Is there quite a few people selling pre game...

[General Johnny Wang]

tons of scalpers....every corner and out front...

but before I made the drive I'd ebay a set...

[nevsky41]

Well, scalping is legal in Cincy, son there's always TONS of scalpers out there. If you don't mind missing the first 10 minutes or so, the scalpers usually drop their prices ridiculously just to undload their tickets.

Just a heads up.

WHO DEY 4 LIFE.

[Felty]

The good..

We won the game.. 3-0!!!!!!!!!! :D

Palmer looked good.

The bad..

Listening to Randy Cross. This guy has to be the worse announcer ever...

Once again way to many penalties.

[tjcurrie]

Hey im a niner fan but i love the bengals. really looking for an old style authentic size 46 or 48 jersey.with name or could be blank.pref white but either one. if anyone has one for sale or knows where to get one without paying an arm and a leg please let me know.thanks
traviscurrie@yahoo.ca

[mtd20_2000]

my Bengals are 3-0...:eek: ...i'm having flashbacks of 88-89....and the Icky shuffle!

(o.k..maybe i shouldn't mention that silly looking dance....but they are 3-0!)

[rarechaselimitedvariation]

congrat to you, still have to beat pittsburgh :D

[YzermanFan]

my Bengals are 3-0...:eek: ...i'm having flashbacks of 88-89....and the Icky shuffle!

(o.k..maybe i shouldn't mention that silly looking dance....but they are 3-0!)
Did you see CJ's shuffle today? Who-dey! Good win for my "Bungles" today.

[The Critic]

congrat to you, still have to beat pittsburgh :D

If Palmer gets banged up by the Steelers defense my boy Kitna can lead the Bengals to victory :D

[YzermanFan]

If Palmer gets banged up by the Steelers defense my boy Kitna can lead the Bengals to victory :D

Kitna?! I'm glad you're a fellow Bengals fan on the board but now you're just talking CRAZY!? :D

[The Critic]

Kitna is the man! Palmer would be nowhere without his guidance! :)

[YzermanFan]

Kitna is the man! Palmer would be nowhere without his guidance! :)
I agree with that statement 125%. I would like to see #3 in the back up position if you know what I mean. Great guy but he doesn't have the arm like #9. The Bengals have some HUGE games ahead of them and they're going to need the big gun.

[nevsky41]

I have no fear of Pittsburg this year. I don't think we'll sweep them, but I am confident we'll at least split with them this season. We should sweep the Browns and at least split the Ravens, if not sweep them.

Again, too many penalties, but if the D keeps getting 6 or more turnovers a game, that'll be hard for anyone to overcome. I know it won't happen, but the Bengals are on pace for 64 Team INTS!!! How ridiculous would that be???

A few other things...

Palmer is on pace for 4192 yards and 42 TDs.
Chad is pace for 1637 yards, 16 TDs and 101 catches.
Rudi is on pace for 1600 yards and 389 carries.

I know 3 games doesn't really tell you ALL that much, but it's still cool to check these things out.

I loved the Chad Johnson shuffle!!! My girlfriend screamed that he was doing Riverdance when she saw it on the highlights!!

That being said, anyone tape or TiVo the game? I'd ba happy to send you a tape and reimburse you for shipping if you have it. Thanks in advance!

[Felty]

Thurman Defensive Rookie of the month!

Palmer Offensive AFC Offensive Player of the month!

comment:

Remember all the people last year about this time that told us we have a better chance of winning with Kitna? As we all said. Yes we might win more games and get a wildcard. But Palmer needed the experience and we were aiming for more than a wildcard but the Super Bowl. :D

[YzermanFan]

Thurman Defensive Rookie of the month!

Palmer Offensive AFC Offensive Player of the month!

comment:

Remember all the people last year about this time that told us we have a better chance of winning with Kitna? As we all said. Yes we might win more games and get a wildcard. But Palmer needed the experience and we were aiming for more than a wildcard but the Super Bowl. :D

I can honestly say I wasn't one of the Kitna-backers. Palmer's nails right now and he's only going to get better. Especially if TJ and Henry take off. Rudi Johnson as the hard-nose runner, Chris Perry's TD catch against Minnesota that was called back adds a whole new dimension. A back that can catch the ball in the flat and take off. How do you defend against them? In the Dillon era, it was 8 in the box and make them throw. Now, you put 8 in the box, Palmer's going deep. You double team CJ and they're going to Houshmandzadeh or Henry. Tab Perry is going to take off in the return game soon. He has the break out potential there.

And their defense is crazy! O'Dell is the big surprise. He's out there with a chip on his shoulder. He's the self proclaimed "steal of the draft." When watching the Chicago game they showed a shot of him and some of the other members of the defense on the sideline getting ready to come back in the game, and he was jumping and laughing. We haven't seen that type of excitement on a Bengals defense in a long time. It's fun to watch them again.

As for the super bowl, let's take it one game at a time. It is in Detroit and the 49ers won't be there this year so there's a chance :D It's been 15 YEARS since the playoffs. I'll take what I can get right now. But there's still the old Bungle fan in me waiting for something to happen. Hopefully we can keep this streak going and get into the post season. I have to get playoff tix if they go. It's going to be insane.

[Felty]

The fumble call.. I could see it going either way. Plus we got screwed earlier in the game on a bad call. On the intentional grounding call earlier in the game Rudi was in the vicinity of the throw. That call cost unless at least three points.

The good..

Were 4-0 wooohooo...
7 Sacks total for the D.
Pollack's sack. Did you guys see that??? That spin move on a double team, the second spin right to where the Carr was trying to get away. And then he still had the energy to get him. Man I wish Pollack had not held out.

The bad..

Losing Braham and Moore with knee injuries. That affected our offense big time.
14 penalties for 117 yards.. Not good at all.

[Eric]

The penalties are still my biggest concern. There's absolutely no excuse to still be taking this many penalties when you're 4 games into the season. They haven't killed us yet, but they've hurt, and they will cost us a game if we don't learn some discipline real quick.

The offense and defense both struggled yesterday, but the D finally found its form and that's why we won. The offense showed signs of taking off, but then one thing or another led to them getting off their game. It was a pretty ugly game overall, but there were some positives to take away (other than the W).

Pollack definitely looked good on that sack, and Thurman continued to play well. Injuries are starting to take their toll, but hopefully Braham and Madieau will be OK for Sunday, and if not Sunday then at least by the Pittsburgh game.

Who dey.

[nevsky41]

Well, that sucked.

[Felty]

Tough lose tonight. We had our chances. To many penalties. To many mental errors. Were still not where we need to be. But were getting there. I still think were a playoff team and we can't win them all. I am anxious to see how we bounce back next week.

[The Critic]

Yes it was a tough loss... but who liked Chad Johnson's TD catch? Incredible catch, and not to mention his riduculous TD celebration...I prefered the riverdance not the recucitation.

[nevsky41]

I will say this much, Paul Maguire needs to get over himself. I have NEVER liked that pompous windbag.

[Eric]

I will say this much, Paul Maguire needs to get over himself. I have NEVER liked that pompous windbag.

I agree. Usually it's not that big of a deal what the commentators say, and they're usually not that biased even though it might seem like it at the moment, but Paul Maguire is a complete a**. He hated on the Bengals and Chad Johnson the entire game, and then after it was obvious the Jags were going to win, he finally lets up and agrees with Joe Theismann that the Bengals are going to win a lot of games. The guy's a loser and needs to give it a rest.

[Felty]

Can we run something different on 4th and 1?? Once again Rudi shows he is not a short yardage back...

Also the D sucks... The turnovers have dried up and now all the flaws on the Defensive side of the ball are showing up.

[Felty]

Wow looks like were going to pull out the win.... But man the defence makes me so freaking nervous.

[YzermanFan]

They need to clog some holes but they go the turnovers when they needed them today. When Thurman matures, and Pollack gets used to his role, this defense will be fine.
They need a run stopper in the middle.
Good come back win. HUGE game next Sunday.

[YzermanFan]

Steelers just lost. Even bigger game next week.

[Felty]

Steelers just lost. Even bigger game next week.

Boy maddox sure does suck.. :D

[YzermanFan]

Boy maddox sure does suck.. :D
Maybe he can play next week
:D

[Felty]

Maybe he can play next week
:D

After today's performance he is probably third string now. :D

[YzermanFan]

After today's performance he is probably third string now. :D
:D

[The Critic]

Wanted to show you guys my latest card added to my Bengals collection, I'm sure you guys will get a kick out of it..hehe

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/28004/ickeydonrussclassics.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8707144511&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[Felty]

The Critic,

Cool card.

With the way Perry is playing in limited playing time were on our way to having two great RB's at one time like back in the prime of Ickey Woods and James Brooks.

[nevsky41]

So, does anyone else still think Carson won't be getting an SP next year? If he keeps his pace, there's no way TMP could justify not putting him in NFL 13 or 14.

Anyway, the run defense was actually not bad. Chris Brown only had 84 yards, and the Titans as a whole only had 118 yds TOTAL rushing. Yeah, I didn't like the big chunks Brown got a few times, but those will happen, as long as it's no on every play!

I've said it before, and I'm saying it again, Odell Thurman is the next big defensive star in the NFL. I became a huge fan when I saw him at training camp, and his play just keeps getting better. He's still raw, and prone to overpursuit of a play, but damn, when he gets his technique refined, he will be unstoppable!!! David Pollack is not looking bad so far, but he really needs to wrap his head around that playbook.

WHO-DEY 4 LIFE.

[Felty]

Palmer should be getting a sportpick next year. But you never know with McFarlane.

As for the game.

Two good drives only 3 points not a good start.

[Tanski]

is chad johnson still playing? and why was his td called back? I'm watching on stat tracker

[Tanski]

nm he caught it, missed fg's, bad red zone offense and good defense, wish i was watching this game.

[Felty]

Crap! Once again kept out of the end zone.

We need TD's to beat the Steelers.

[JF]

Time to put a skirt on your wide receiver . Steeler could not even tackle him without getting a penalty .

[Tanski]

niether team is playing well, so 7-6 isn't horrible at the half. I can't see the game, but it seems like they need to air it out.

[Eric]

The Bus is running all over us, which isn't much of a surprise. We got better towards the end of the first half, but we'll still have to do better in the second.

I always forget why I hate the Steelers until we play them, and then I'm instantly reminded because after every single play they're talking trash and taunting their opponent. I used to like Hines Ward until I saw how he acted in the first half.

Once again I have to question Carson not going to Chad more often. Their best corners are out of the game, and they're giving Chad single coverage and lots of room. We should be eating that up, and then taking advantage of the ability to run it when they do expect us to use Chad.

Let's go boys. We need you to come out playing hard in the second half.

[Felty]

ouch getting ugly now.. :(

[jenningstime]

still the Bungals

[MarvLevyshead]

They're still the "Bungals" despite having a 5-1 record and leading the division? News to me.

I WISH the Bills were 5-1. Hell, 4-3.

[Felty]

still the Bungals'

Even with a lose were 5-2.

Find another thread to be an idiot in. :rolleyes:

If we score a TD's early like we should have. It's a close game.

[YzermanFan]

still the Bungals
It's amazing how Steelers fans come out of the woodwork when they're winning. Are Steelers going to go trash Tommy Maddox's house some more with this victory? How about threatening his family some more… Classless as usual.

Bengals have played a horrible game: horrible d, horrible play calling. First quarter we're walking up and down on them. 2 incomplete passes in the end zone. Missed field goal inside the 30?! Good lord. Too bad Pollack, Ratliff and others went down. Williams is out for the season. We could be in trouble.

I hardly call 5-2 the same old Bungles.

Steelers have played a great game when they needed to. Bengals need to sack up and learn from this.

[Felty]

Williams is out for the season..

Crap! He is out for the season? I have not heard that yet.

[YzermanFan]

Crap! He is out for the season? I have not heard that yet.

Dave Lapham said it 700 WLW in Cincinnati during the pre-game. Shoulder's screwed up HUGE loss. I'm hoping Pollack and Ratliff are alright.

[jenningstime]

'

Even with a lose were 5-2.

Find another thread to be an idiot in. :rolleyes:

If we score a TD's early like we should have. It's a close game.

Im just bein a jerk...Bengals fans thought all of a sudden they owned the AFC North, which they may end up winning. However, they need to beat some good teams before they are for real. Jacksonville and Pittsburgh showed they are not elite yet.

[YzermanFan]

Im just bein a jerk...Bengals fans thought all of a sudden they owned the AFC North, which they may end up winning. However, they need to beat some good teams before they are for real. Jacksonville and Pittsburgh showed they are not elite yet.

Sorry to tell you this but Bengal fans don't think that at all, the national media has said the Bengals owned the AFC north. Bengal fans have been nervous about each and every game they've played this year.

[Felty]

Im just bein a jerk...Bengals fans thought all of a sudden they owned the AFC North, which they may end up winning. However, they need to beat some good teams before they are for real. Jacksonville and Pittsburgh showed they are not elite yet.

Jenningstime,

I don't think any of the Bengals fans on this message board have though we owned the division now.

Don't hold it against though for showing some excitement. We put up with a losing team for far to long.

[Felty]

Dave Lapham said it 700 WLW in Cincinnati during the pre-game. Shoulder's screwed up HUGE loss. I'm hoping Pollack and Ratliff are alright.

Well that just sucks, huge loss like you said. :(

Hopefully Pollack and Ratliff are ok.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Now that was a good drive by the Bengals... I'm not sure that I want the Steelers to play you twice this year.

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

I will say this. The Bengals have a good looking team. Their defense is a little suspect and now with injuries will have to buckle down, but they are a nice team.

Yzermanfan: I am a Steeler Fan, and I am not coming out of the "wood work". I root for the Steelers every time they play, but I also recognize a good team when I see it. The Bengals are good....Jacksonville should not have been even close in that game, and that is why Steeler fans were frustrated, just as Bengals fans are frustrated now...

Tom

[YzermanFan]

Now that was a good drive by the Bengals... I'm not sure that I want the Steelers to play you twice this year.

Bengals need a new offensive coordinator. How many times can we run off-tackles? 3rd and 15 draw plays? First quarter the Bengal's offense were making the Steelers look silly. After the missed FG (and 1 reversed TD call and 1 dropped TD pass) the wind just went out.
We have to see how they'll bounce back after this complete failure of a game.

[YzermanFan]

I will say this. The Bengals have a good looking team. Their defense is a little suspect and now with injuries will have to buckle down, but they are a nice team.

Yzermanfan: I am a Steeler Fan, and I am not coming out of the "wood work". I root for the Steelers every time they play, but I also recognize a good team when I see it. The Bengals are good....Jacksonville should not have been even close in that game, and that is why Steeler fans were frustrated, just as Bengals fans are frustrated now...

Tom

Not knocking you, Tom,and I'm not questioning your loyalty to your team. Broad statement over the opinion of Steeler fans that I've seen in my neck of the woods. Sort of like Bengal fans think they own the AFC North. Some Bengals fans may, but the majority don't. I didn't say you come out the wood work personally since I don't know you,
Bengals didn't come to play today and they lost. I won't go trashing player's houses to show my frustration and I'm not really looking for a debate. s
If I offended you, I apologize. Swing that terrible towel one time for me. Congrats on the win.:D

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

I was not offended at all. Just trying to say that not all Steeler fans are the same...I am as loyal as they come to the Steelers, but the Bengals are far better than even I realized.. They will be a team of the future if they can stay together..

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

it'll be nice to have some competition for our division for once (sry Brownies)

[nevsky41]

Well, didn't watch the game, had to work, but I don't even want to watch the tape. :(

There has to be a moment in every season when the glamour dies and the reality becomes clear. The Bengals are a good team this year, we are still #1 in the division, but now we need to learn from this loss, buckle down and realize that we just need to play better, and come to play EVERY game, ESPECIALLY big games like this.

Of course, this game justy increased my dislike of Roethlisberger. The guy is NOT an elite QB. He's a solid QB, but not elite. He is the most overrated player in the NFL and I will tell ANYONE that. He doesn't do anything! He piggybacks on the defense adn the running game. I don't care who you are, oif you can't throw for at least a hundred yards in an NFL game, you are not elite. (He threw for 93 yds today.) Yeah, handoff the ball on almost 70% of offensive snaps and take all the credit, and bask in the limelight. That's what makes a QB great, isn't it? When Roethlisberger has to carry the team, we'll see that he is not up to the task. Sure, he can piggy back on the running game, throw 10 passes a game, and smile for the camera all he wants. Enjoy it while it lasts, b/c the NFL is the most cyclical league in the world, and it can all disappear at any time, pal. I cannot styand Roethlisberger, and cannot wait until the rest of the world realizes how overrated he is.

Anyway, we should bounce back and abuse the Packers D before beating up on the Ravens, b/c if you can score 14 points, you can beat the Ravens right now.

Today was a down moment in a promising season. I fully believe Marvin can use this week as a reinforcement and get this team back on track, and make this week an anomally, the obligatory bad game that every team encounters at some point in the season. There is no perfect season. Marvin will bring the fire back, and this team will have some teeth again.

Enough melodrama. I'm getting off my soapbox now.

[nevsky41]

Originally posted by Felty:
Palmer should be getting a sportpick next year. But you never know with McFarlane.


Yeah, knowing TMP, Palmer will probably get booted for Roethlisberger 2, Ward 2, Willie Parker and Bettis 2. :rolleyes:

[Eric]

Yeah, knowing TMP, Palmer will probably get booted for Roethlisberger 2, Ward 2, Willie Parker and Bettis 2. :rolleyes:

I've never really said it before, but I've always felt McFarlane has a bit of an ego. Some of Mark's comments about Todd not liking certain uniforms so a figure won't be made in it, or the fact certain teams rarely if ever get SPs while others get SP after SP (the national fanbase argument can only work so long) make me think there's too much emphasis on what he likes instead of what the thousands of people who spend millions of dollars on his products like. Now I know it's his company and he can do what he wants and blah, blah, blah, but weak arguments and poor justification (if any is given) for why certain people and teams keep getting screwed bothers me. The money of Bengals, Coyotes, and Sabres fans is just as worthwhile as the money of Yankees, Avalanche, and Lakers fans, so why can't TMP try harder to show THOSE fans some appreciation?

Take for instance Willie Roaf in the recent NFL line. There's no reason why that couldn't have been Player X from some neglected team rather than another Kansas City Chief. The figure's shortprinted, so it's gonna sell no matter who it is. So why make it of one of the "large national fanbase" teams that TMP can't please enough? There are other linemen who are just as good as Roaf and just as deserving of a figure. That's just one example, but there are others just like it.

Maybe I'm still ticked off about the loss today (man, we played horribly), but I wanted to get that out cause I've felt this way for a while (that's what I get for being a loyal Bengals, Sabres, and Spurs fan).

[nevsky41]

Oh. My. Gawd. :eek:

That was the most hideous uniform combination I have ever seen. Please, Marvin, NEVER EVER EVER wear THAT combination again, I love the orange jerseys, but they NEED the contrast of the black pants. Yikes. Just yikes.

Anyway, ugly win, but I'll take it. If we don't win the division, it'll be a tight race for the wildcard with the Jags, but I think we'll do it. If nothing else, we'll get a winning season this year.

Hey, maybe lightning can strike twice when Indy comes to town?

[Eric]

I didn't like the uniforms at first simply because I love the orange on black so much, but they immediately grew on me. My favorite color is and always has been orange, so I loved it. Plus, I'm so freakin' sick of the whole world acting like orange is a taboo color for sports uniforms, so anytime a team wears an orange jersey or orange pants, the media and analysts can't say enough about how bad they think they look. So many teams have hideous uniforms but simply because they're not orange no one feels the need to say anything. But the second Cincinnati puts any uniform on, everyone has to make sure they say that they think they're ugly (not you, nevsky, but the media/analysts).

Now, on to the important stuff, and that's the game. And more precisely, how crappy we played. It's not everyday you get 5 interceptions, so you have to take advantage of them. We, of course, didn't, and could very easily have gone to OT or lost the game altogether. My personal opinion is that we waste too much energy and time on stupid, ticky-tack plays like dumps and quick screens and things of that sort when we should be pounding the ball with Rudi and throwing bombs to Chad and TJ. Now I don't mean go long everytime, but more than once a game would be nice. We have some outstanding players in Carson, Rudi, Chad, and TJ, yet we don't take near enough advantage of them.

The defense still worries me. If they're not getting INTs, they're pretty much getting passed and ran all over. I've thought for a while Brian Simmons is overrated, but these last few games has me convinced he is. He just doesn't do enough for the D. And I'm so tired of guys overpursuing runners that if they don't fix it soon I'm gonna wig out.

Now with all that said, I'm still pumped we're winning games no matter how they come about. I think we should beat Baltimore next week, although it won't surprise me if Jamal Lewis and Chester Taylor blow up against us for 200+ yards. But given the ballhawking our D is constantly doing, we should be able to take advantage of Anthony Wright's play and hopefully get enough going on offense to win the game, even if they do play D like they did yesterday against Pittsburgh.

And speaking of Pittsburgh, did anyone else just love how the great Ben Roethlisberger had stats very similar to Anthony Wright's until the last few series of the game? :D

[Eric]

Well, it's finally happened. The List is gone.

http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=4787

Personally, I'm glad Marvin took it down. Sure, it got us some national press and it gave a chance for everyone to see what kind of person Chad is (****y yet always respectful of his opponents), but I think it was becoming a distraction a long time ago. It was giving the other team a little extra motivation that maybe they wouldn't have had otherwise. I think Marvin did the right thing in taking it down, and you gotta respect the new list he made himself.

Plus, Chad is gonna have his fun anyway, and he's resourceful, so I have no doubts that he'll find something else to get excited over.

[nevsky41]

In regards to the list, I agree that it was becoming a distraction, especially after Paul Maguire, the most self-righteous, overly-self-important, biggest-ego-with-no-real-backup-for-it, pompous windbag doing commentary in sports, harped on it and hated on Chad for the entirety of the Jax game. But Chad is probably the hardest working wideout in the NFL, and if he can get over his emotions, there's no one I'd rather have in stripes on Sunday. But yeah, I think the new list is better.

I love the orange jerseys, but man, that combination was just too damned bright! Almost flourescant.

The D, I think, will be okay. Yes, the overpursuit of the run is absolutely infuriating, but there seems to be less of that going on. It's still happening too much, but it's declining. As for B-Simms, I'm a fan. I think what's going on is the fact that Odell, who as Mike is supposed to be calling the plays for the D, is a rookie (though having a RotY caliber season), and not yet real comfortable with calling the plays, B-Simms is basically having to call the plays from the weakside. I think that is making him think more than he should, as he is best just reacting, not thinking. As Odell gets more comfortable calling the plays, I think #56 will get more productive.

As for the easy dumps and that stuff, I think that's a combination of things. First, Carson is obsessed with eliminating INTs, so he's using those safe throws more, and between Perry and Rudi, those two can usually get some YAC. Second, I think Bratkowski is trying to justify Perry. Yeah, after seeing him play this season, I'm glad we took him, but he was being overused for a period.

As for Roethlisberger, when you're going against the Ravens B-team defense, and pretty much toe-to-toe statistically with Anthony freakin Wright, that doesn't say much for how amazing you are. The Steelers SHOULD have lost that game, just like they SHOULD have lost at least 4 games last season. Roethlisberger, for the first time actually playing a game like a QB, didn't look all that impressive, especially when he couldn't direct the ofense into the endzone. (Of course, the steelers should have given Wright a game ball for being such an idiot, but that another matter...) Roethlisberger's lucky streak will run out of steam eventually and he will be exposed for the average QB he really is.

[Eric]

Good stuff, nevsky. You make good points, especially about Carson and him being obsessed with eliminating INTs. I'd never thought of it that way, but that's exactly how it comes off. I wonder how often he doesn't make a throw for fear of it getting picked.

Simmons is on the block still for me. I haven't written him off, and I want him on this team, but I just think he's gotta do better, no matter what it takes to do so. He's the most seasoned veteran on our defense, and he needs to be leading them out there. I have faith he can do that, but I WILL BE WATCHING, BRIAN.

I still love the orange on white. We'll have to agree to disagree here.

Finally, Big Ben. I've never been impressed with him as a pro. Whenever they make him throw more than 15 balls, his true colors come shining through and his numbers drop. Sure, it's not all about numbers, but for people to praise him as some kind of great QB when he's really just a figurehead of sorts there to hand the ball off and make some easy tosses is beyond me. After seeing them play against Jacksonville and Baltimore, now I'm convinced more than ever that we were fated to lose that game against them. It was out of our hands. We just have to play like we can against them when we meet up again and things should take care of themselves.

[nevsky41]

We can agree to disagree about the orange on white. Diff'rent Strokes, mang. :D

[Felty]

7-2

It wasn't pretty at times. But we got the win today.

Looks like Steelers are going to beat the Packers. So the bengals will be up a half a game going into the bye week. Guess I will be cheering for Browns next week.. :D

[General Johnny Wang]

what's bad is that after the bye the Bengals have Indy...first place in the division is fading away.

[Eric]

We looked much better today than we have for a few weeks. I'm pleased with how we played. The Ravens aren't a good team, and we made them look that way for most of the game, unlike some of the other not-so-good teams we've played. I don't know if having the Colts after a bye week is a good thing or a bad thing, but hopefully Marvin has the boys prepared when Indy does hit town.

I think Brian Simmons must read this thread, because he played the best game I've seen him play in years today. I guess me saying I'm watching him was what did the trick :D , so to keep it going, I'm going to say it again. When the Colts come to town, I WILL BE WATCHING, BRIAN.

[Eric]

Looks like I wasn't the only one who was watching Brian Simmons this week. He's been named AFC Defensive Player of the Week for Sunday's performance against Baltimore. Way to go, Brian. Keep it up.

http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=4811

[Felty]

What we have learned from this game..

Ohalete sucks big time!! I am not sure we could have won. But this game really showed how much we miss Williams.

Our offense is in one of the best in the league...

I look at Indy last year and compare are team to them. With some serious work on the D we could be be the best team in the AFC next year.

[General Johnny Wang]

totally agreed...

Cincy downs Indy in the playoffs....

just a little prediction.

[Felty]

15 long years.... Congrats to all the long time bengals fans on this board. :D

Odell Thurman I believe 8 tackles and 1 int.. Another great game from him. He has to be the Defensive ROY.. Williams was screwed out of that award last year.

The offensive line was awesome today. Palmer had plenty of time to throw the ball. And they opened holes for Rudy. The game ball has to go to them.

Now the cries of "Beat a winning team" can stop.

I still think the Steelers make the playoffs and I would prefer not to play them again this year.

[Eric]

I don't know if Pittsburgh will make the playoffs or not, but I'm almost sure of one thing (barring something insane happening in the next few weeks):

we're going to the playoffs!

[Eric]

Did anyone else hear Chad Johnson's postgame comments?

He said that this game was one to silence the critics, and that "after this game there will probably be another excuse why we're not for real." He's 100% right, and all season long we've heard about how we're not that good and we haven't proved anything, and it probably won't change. I'm not saying we're Super Bowl bound, but I am saying that the lack of respect from most of the football world has been there for too long this year.

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

The Bengals are for real. They played a GREAT game yesterday. Congrats to the Bengal fans out there.

[Eric]

The Bengals are for real. They played a GREAT game yesterday. Congrats to the Bengal fans out there.

Classy post, Tom. And Steelers fans in general, on this board and others, have been the same way about yesterday's game. For now, I have no problem with Steelers fans, although I'd love to hear what the mighty Mark Weber has to say.

[Diab0lus]

The Bengals are for real. They played a GREAT game yesterday. Congrats to the Bengal fans out there.

Hey, we finally agree on something!! :eek:

On a more serious note, that is a nice comment that you posted. Hats off to the Steelers and their fans (most of them) for being sportmen about this loss.

Now, we MUST go home and beat Cleveland!

[Felty]

wow... That game scared me!! Seems like when the Browns and Bengals get together you can throw the records out no matter how much better one of the teams may be. Thank God Rudi came to play.. It was ugly but we now have 10 wins. :D

Any news on Chris Perry?

[Eric]

Nothing definite on Chris Perry so far, but I heard it might be a high ankle sprain which means he'd be sidelined till the playoffs. It's never good when they have to be carted off, but hopefully it wasn't as serious as it looked.

Not a good game from Carson yesterday. I don't know what the deal was but he just couldn't get going. I think that INT might have affected him the rest of the game because he looked shaky on almost every throw. But Rudi couldn't be stopped, and that was huge. The man's a beast (just like they called him on Bengals.com) and not far from setting a new single season rushing record after just setting it last year. Say it with me now:

Rudi, Rudi, Rudi!

I don't want to look past anything, and I certainly don't want the team to do that, but we ought to win next week in Detroit and on Christmas Eve against Buffalo. KC is the only game I'm worried about, but hopefully by then everything will be decided and the result won't matter.

Who dey.

[jdipietro]

I'm so loving this season..Hated to see Perry down yesterday, he is our back of the future I think...Great moves and speed....
We can clinch next week with a win...We also have a 4:05 game in the dome, maybe Carson will make up for his below par performance and tear it up inside....

[Felty]

Im sure Bengals fan have heard this by now. But Chris Henry arrested.
http://www.channelcincinnati.com/sports/5546354/detail.html

What a moron.

In other news. This is hilarious... Chad Johnson also working at McDonalds? :D

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/nfl/athlete-runin-chad-johnsons-side-job-142854.php

[dingdongdunn44]

WOO HOO!!!! AFC NORTH CHAMPS today baby! Congrats to the Bengals and WHO DEY nation!!! It was awesome getting to see everyone be a part of it, especially Jon Kitna who deserves alot of credit for the progress and maturation of Carson Palmer. Also, how about Chad's celebration today!? Incase you couldn't read his mouth, he said "What do i do?" then handed the ball to the official, acting like he's never been there before. Haha, i hope that put all the chad haters in their place! Anyways, I am pumped and can't wait til Saturday when hopefully i'll be attending the Christmas Eve waxing of the Bills. WHO DEY!

[Diab0lus]

Now we just need to win out and hope that Denver loses a game. We need that to happen to get a first round bye. However, by the looks of it, we will most likely be hosting Pittsburgh in round one. How fitting that it will be the best two out of three against our AFC North rivals.

Go Bengals!!

[YzermanFan]

Who-dey! Gotta love the AFC North Championship for Braham and Anderson. They've gone through a lot here in the 'Nati. I think it would be funny if Cleveland can pull one out against the Steelers next week. That would be a nice Christmas gift from the Brownies:D
I think KC's going to be a tough game. Hopefully we can stay injury free.
Wasn't it nice to see Kitna come out at the end? He's a class act and I hope he's around next year. Somehow I think he may end up somewhere else but you never know.

[Felty]

I can't believe it.. Congrats to all of us long suffering fans.

Like said above we need 2 more wins and hopefully a Broncos lost... :D

[Eric]

Chad's celebration was nothing short of brilliant as the whole world was watching, waiting to see what he'd do, only to see him do the complete opposite. Just brilliant.

Hey, dunn. I think I'll be at the game against Buffalo, too. I'm praying for little to no snow and non-freezing temperatures so I can make the drive and then actually not be miserably cold during the game.

Great game all around yesterday except for Carson's two INTs. I don't know what he was doing on those. But he did set the franchise record for single season TDs, so congrats to him for that.

Did anyone else notice Tab Perry getting absolutely blown up on the opening kickoff and then recovering the fumble because of it? I mean he just got destroyed by his blocker, but it put him in perfect position to fall on the fumble by McQuarters.

And that Chad Johnson story above about going to Best Buy is one of the best things I've read in a long time. I think it deserves its own thread.

It's a feel-good day for us Bengals fans. I'll be smiling all day, even when I go to work.

Who dey!

[nevsky41]

WHO-DEY!!!!

Congrats to all the players, the organization, and all us fans on the Bengals winning the AFC North!!! Got a t-shirt to buy...

I haven't seen anyone mention this... But next September is looking like it could be a good month for Bengals fans...

Carson Palmer in NFL 13, due September 2006!!!

Check it out...

http://www.spawn.com/news/news2.aspx?id=12755


WHO-DEY!!!

[Eric]

Gettin' ready to leave for the Bengals-Bills game. I'm hopin for a good effort from our boys and a memorable day, with or without Chad's anticipated deer celebration. I'll think of all my fellow Bengal fans not in attendance when our boys are cruising to victory!

Who dey!

[ky76]

Nice thread...


Here's my question?? Why did the Bengals pass on S. Jackson to get C. Perry?? I know that got another draft pick....but who did they get with that pick??

I know Coach Lewis has done a wonderful job.....but that is the one move that I disagree with.....anythoughts or ideas from ya'll???


GO BUNGALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[SBrooks1]

Cinci is my 2nd favorite team behind the Chiefs. Can't wait to see what Chad Johnson does today. :D

[YzermanFan]

Nice thread...


Here's my question?? Why did the Bengals pass on S. Jackson to get C. Perry?? I know that got another draft pick....but who did they get with that pick??

I know Coach Lewis has done a wonderful job.....but that is the one move that I disagree with.....anythoughts or ideas from ya'll???


GO BUNGALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

That was a question that was asked by Bengal fans at the time as well. Actually the real question was "Why did we use a first round draft pick on another running back when we have Rudi Johnson?" Well, Rudi was in a contract year and I guess they didn't know whether or not he was going to re-sign or not. At the time, I thought (as did many Bengal fans) Stephen Jackson should've been the pick IF we had to pick a running back. But, as the mantra around here says, In Marvin We Trust.

I think - and I'm not an expert - that Chris Perry fits better with the two running back combo the Bengals are looking for. One is a smash mouth runner and the other one is quick, receiving running back. Earlier in the season it was a nice 1 - 2 punch. It sort of reminds me of the James Brooks/Ickey Woods combo back in the late 80's. Unfortunately, Perry has been injury-proned his first 2 seasons but I think that'll improve.

That's just my thoughts though. WHO-DEY! Play-off Bound baby!

[dingdongdunn44]

i agree with yzerman fan. if stephen jackson woulda been drafted by the bengals, there's a good chance rudi would not have had a career year and started to prove why he's the franchise back of the bengals. Perry has been great when healthy. He's been flashy when he gets carries, making plays, and is very valuable as a 3rd down receiver out of the backfield. all he needs to do is work on defending the pass rush a little better. other than that, he definitly gets an A in my book after flunking last year. He'll be back for the playoffs giving the bengals yet another offensive weapon. It's hard to say what if and why would anyone with the position the bengals are in right now!? Who Dey BOYs and get ready for the reindeer, BABY! GO CJ!

[Felty]

I haven't visited this thread in a while. With the season ending today I thought I would. It's a good thing I don't drink. I sure would have needed a lot of liquor to make it through the second half of the Bengals game. I have high hopes for the future. The Steeler fans better enjoy it for now. I believe the Bengals will be dominating the division for years to come.

[YzermanFan]

I haven't visited this thread in a while. With the season ending today I thought I would. It's a good thing I don't drink. I sure would have needed a lot of liquor to make it through the second half of the Bengals game. I have high hopes for the future. The Steeler fans better enjoy it for now. I believe the Bengals will be dominating the division for years to come.

Good to see you back! I agree with the whole "no drinking during Bengals game" policy. Tough break today. The off-season looks a little darker now than it did before. Hurt star quarterback, no second string quarterback and a defense that has major holes to fill.

We'll wait and see. And hope and pray I guess…

WHO-DEY!

[Eric]

The hit on Palmer was crap. Everyone's saying he was blocked into him, but the people that are saying that want to believe that's the case. He wasn't blocked into him because the man blocking him (either Williams or Jones) was still facing upfield. The guy got destroyed, fell down, and then saw a chance to take out our QB. And I don't care what his reaction was afterwards, it doesn't change the fact that he dove for Palmer's knee. He knew what kind of damage he could do, and he did it anyway. Pure garbage play from the Cowher-coached Steelers. It sickens me that a guy like Cowher is so respected around the league when you see the way his players act out on the field. What a joke. Now we have to worry about Palmer ever returning to his old form. Guys have had their careers ended on lesser plays. Palmer had an outstanding year, and he deserved a chance to make something happen in his first playoff game. Instead he had that opportunity stolen away by a dirty player on a dirty team.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

dude, Kimo was falling (not diving) and fell into his leg because of the play of the blocker. your defenders might have been facing upfield but they knocked him down and in instead of away from the QB. he didn't try to injure the leg, he grabbed it to try to make a play, but at that point the damage was already done because the shoulder had already slammed the knee.

you can't have it both ways...

The guy got destroyed, fell down, and then saw a chance to take out our QB. And I don't care what his reaction was afterwards, it doesn't change the fact that he dove for Palmer's knee

as you said, he was blocked very well, knocked off balance and fell. how then did he dive when the entire play occured while trying to make a play on the QB and in the same falling motion?

and as for dirty plays, there were just as many on the other side as well, including a punch thrown by a Bengals returner against the special teamer that tackled him.

[hockeyfightsguy]

Kitna is in a pretty good position now. He wants big dough and Bengals are going to have to bring in a decent back up as an insurance policy against Carsons knee. They said he hurt that knee last year as well. Not good for the longterm for him. I think the hit was cheap, but i'm sure he didn't expect that to do serious damage though. It's not like he crushed him or anything, just enough of a nudge to do serious damage. I thought it might not even be serious at all. Seen worse looking hits and guys get back up and are playing later in the game. Just bad spot on the hit.............

[Eazy-D66]

The hit on Palmer was crap. Everyone's saying he was blocked into him, but the people that are saying that want to believe that's the case. He wasn't blocked into him because the man blocking him (either Williams or Jones) was still facing upfield. The guy got destroyed, fell down, and then saw a chance to take out our QB. And I don't care what his reaction was afterwards, it doesn't change the fact that he dove for Palmer's knee. He knew what kind of damage he could do, and he did it anyway. Pure garbage play from the Cowher-coached Steelers. It sickens me that a guy like Cowher is so respected around the league when you see the way his players act out on the field. What a joke. Now we have to worry about Palmer ever returning to his old form. Guys have had their careers ended on lesser plays. Palmer had an outstanding year, and he deserved a chance to make something happen in his first playoff game. Instead he had that opportunity stolen away by a dirty player on a dirty team.

Actual Football people, who are far better than you when it comes to knowledge of the game and an eye for those occurances, have all said it was unfortunate but not cheap. Get a life.

[Eric]

Actual Football people, who are far better than you when it comes to knowledge of the game and an eye for those occurances, have all said it was unfortunate but not cheap. Get a life.

Anyone saying that is saying that because that's the cliche, politically correct move. But turn on Cold Pizza on ESPN and see that both Skip Bayless and Woody Paige said it was a dirty hit (Paige even said it was entirely intentional and he knew he could injure him by doing it). Are those the kind of experts you're talking about? Or are you just talking about the ones who agree with you?

[Eric]

dude, Kimo was falling (not diving) and fell into his leg because of the play of the blocker. your defenders might have been facing upfield but they knocked him down and in instead of away from the QB. he didn't try to injure the leg, he grabbed it to try to make a play, but at that point the damage was already done because the shoulder had already slammed the knee.

you can't have it both ways...

as you said, he was blocked very well, knocked off balance and fell. how then did he dive when the entire play occured while trying to make a play on the QB and in the same falling motion?

and as for dirty plays, there were just as many on the other side as well, including a punch thrown by a Bengals returner against the special teamer that tackled him.

You're wrong. He wasn't falling. He was diving. He was diving in desperation because he was being blocked so well. There was no fall to it. And the damage wasn't done until he wrapped his arm around his leg and leaned into him. As I said in another thread, I've seen this play as many times as anyone. The fact that I'm a Bengals fan doesn't mean I'm incapable of assessing the play and understanding what happened.

[DrewChem08]

The blocker guided Kimo into Palmer with a shove, and the hit was right after Palmer released the ball. Palmer still had the ball in his hands as Kimo was falling towards him, so a defenders natural reaction is to go for the sack, that's his job. If anything, the turf had more to do with Palmers injury since his foot got stuck and didn't release from the turf fast enough.

[ToightLikeATiger]

Anyone saying that is saying that because that's the cliche, politically correct move. But turn on Cold Pizza on ESPN and see that both Skip Bayless and Woody Paige said it was a dirty hit (Paige even said it was entirely intentional and he knew he could injure him by doing it). As those the kind of experts you're talking about? Or are you just talking about the ones who agree with you?

lol.... you listen to Woody Paige's opinion???? give me a break. guy is funny and all but not the brightest.

majority says it wasnt dirty. minority says it was.

[Eazy-D66]

No Eric...I don't consider them to be experts....from what I've seen, people saying it was a dirty hit are very much in the minority - those who are from or like the Cincy boys or may have liked them in college....or.....are just QB fans and ANY QB hit is dirty....or don't like the Steelers.

I myself am talking mainly about the refs, who did not throw a flag when they were standing right there.

I admit I'm bias because I am a steelers fan....but I'm trying to have a somewhat balanced view here....I have to think that Kimo is sincere in his claim that it was an attempt to sack or immobilize the QB....and the refs not throwing a flag, along with the review of the Cincy player blocking kimo into palmers direction all add up to not dirty to me.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

You're wrong. He wasn't falling. He was diving. He was diving in desperation because he was being blocked so well. There was no fall to it. And the damage wasn't done until he wrapped his arm around his leg and leaned into him. As I said in another thread, I've seen this play as many times as anyone. The fact that I'm a Bengals fan doesn't mean I'm incapable of assessing the play and understanding what happened.

you apparently are incapable of assessing the play and understanding what happened because you've said that he both dived and fell. he either dived or fell and it's pretty clear that he fell and tried to make a play on the QB and that he fell because the defender had him off balance and up to that point was doing his job very well.

Kimo's head was down, he hit the knee and at that point the ball was in the process of being thrown. he then wrapped the leg and unfortunately it was as Carson's weight was going the other way while his leg was wrapped and as his cleat was firmly planted in the turf. Kimo's head was still down.

it's a really, really unfortunate injury... which Kimo's also experienced. hell, even some of your players are saying it wasn't intentional in the papers and in online interviews.

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Beyond the play on Palmer which I think was a clean hit , I want to congratulate the Bengals fans on a great season. The Bengals are a team of the future and if they get a capable defense, look out! I truly hope that Carson Palmer heals and regains his form. I am a football fan and I recognize the talent he possesses.
keep your heads up, better days are coming for sure...

[hockeyfightsguy]

This is the NFL, THE Bengals could go 12-4 next year or 4-12. The gotta hope things fall right for them again. That is why each great season is so special, never can count on it happening 2 years in a row.........

[Eazy-D66]

Palmer absolves von Oelhoffen over play By JOE KAY, AP Sports Writer

CINCINNATI (AP) -- One replay was all Carson Palmer (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6337/) needed to see.
The Pro Bowl quarterback won't dwell on the play that doomed the Bengals' first playoff appearance in 15 years. He tore a knee ligament on his first pass during a 31-17 loss to Pittsburgh.
Palmer slowly shuffled around the locker room on crutches Monday, unsure when he'd have reconstructive surgery and unable to say definitively that he'll be fully recovered in time for training camp.
As for the tackle that led to it all, Palmer said Kimo von Oelhoffen (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2766/) did nothing.
"I don't know Kimo personally," Palmer said. "From what I've heard, he's a classy guy. Football is football. I don't think it was malicious at all. He's a guy with a high motor that plays hard and was playing hard.
"It just happened. I don't think in any way he was trying to do anything. It's just part of the game."
The Steelers lineman was stumbling as he came off a block and lunged at Palmer's legs, crashing into the side of his left knee. Palmer tore the anterior cruciate ligament when the leg bowed.
He couldn't bear to watch the replay.
"I saw it once," he said, with a pained expression. "I didn't need to see it a whole bunch more than that."
Although Palmer absolved von Oelhoffen, coach Marvin Lewis thought the officials should have penalized him for a late hit. No flag was thrown on the play, a 66-yard completion to Chris Henry (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7259/).
"That kind of play is the play by the rules in place to be a penalty," Lewis said Monday. "The official didn't see it that way. I think everybody who knows Kimo knows he plays hard. He's not a bad player or bad person. He's a good person. But it's unfortunate and it happened."
Palmer expects to have reconstructive surgery soon. Every injury is different, so there's no way to tell precisely when he'll be ready to play again. The typical recovery time is six to nine months.
Although Palmer hopes to be ready for the start of training camp in six months, he knows he can't afford to push too hard in rehabilitation and suffer a setback.
"There's definitely a timeline," he said. "But I'm not going to be stupid about it. I realize I've made a commitment to this organization for the future, and I need to think about that, too.
"I'm not going to do anything that's going to affect me in a couple of years or later on this next football season. I'm going to take precautions. I'm going to work as hard as I can without doing too much."
That means that his backup will have to run the offense during minicamp, and maybe longer. Jon Kitna (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4157/) is a free agent after the season. Lewis declined to talk about Kitna's future on Monday, but Palmer lobbied for him to stay.
Kitna was the starter during Lewis' first season, leading the Bengals to an 8-8 finish while Palmer watched from the sideline as a rookie. Kitna has been the backup each of the last two seasons.
He took over after Palmer got hurt on Sunday and led the Bengals to a 17-14 halftime lead, going 14-of-20 for 109 yards and a touchdown without an interception. In the second half, the Steelers changed coverages and Kitna crumbled, going 10-of-20 for 88 yards with two interceptions and a fumble.
Palmer said Kitna is his main offseason concern.
"I'm not worried about anybody else other than Jon," Palmer said. "He has some opportunities to go and play some other places. I know the organization wants him back. It's a matter of what he wants to do.
"I wish him the best. I want what's best for him. But I'm also selfish, and I want him back."
Palmer's teammates are wondering whether he'll be back for training camp. He set a franchise record and led the NFL with 32 touchdown passes, and made the Pro Bowl in his second year as a starter.
Palmer sat in a locker and shared small talk with his linemen and receivers on Monday, occasionally laughing at a joke. He seemed upbeat, but teammates couldn't help but notice the metal crutches leaning against the side of the locker.
"The guy they're building our franchise around goes down with an ACL," left tackle Levi Jones (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5896/) said. "You don't want that to happen to anybody, but for that guy there to get hurt -- basically, where our team is going to go, he's going to take us. It's definitely hard to see.
"That's definitely a concern. I'm just going to hope and pray for the best."

[Eric]

If it was any other team, I could agree that the hit wasn't dirty. But since it was the Steelers versus the Bengals, and since the Steelers were taking shots, talking trash, and taunting the Bengals before, during, and even after the game, I'll never believe that von Oellhoffen wasn't trying to take our best player out. I think he saw a chance to take him down, and although he probably didn't mean to do the damage he did, he knew he could at least do some kind of damage that would make a difference in the game. So he did, and now our future QB may never be the same, and it's all because the Steelers wanted to win that badly.

The only comfort in all of this is I know what kind of person Palmer is, so I'm sure he'll do whatever it takes to get back into form and lead this team again.

I can also take comfort in the fact that the Steelers will never win anything with Bill Cowher as head coach, so while he's there it'll be annoying to put up with their egos and constant trash talking, but at least I know they won't be winning any Super Bowls in the process.

[Joe Solak]

If it was any other team, I could agree that the hit wasn't dirty. But since it was the Steelers versus the Bengals, and since the Steelers were taking shots, talking trash, and taunting the Bengals before, during, and even after the game, I'll never believe that von Oellhoffen wasn't trying to take our best player out. I think he saw a chance to take him down, and although he probably didn't mean to do the damage he did, he knew he could at least do some kind of damage that would make a difference in the game. So he did, and now our future QB may never be the same, and it's all because the Steelers wanted to win that badly.

The only comfort in all of this is I know what kind of person Palmer is, so I'm sure he'll do whatever it takes to get back into form and lead this team again.

I can also take comfort in the fact that the Steelers will never win anything with Bill Cowher as head coach, so while he's there it'll be annoying to put up with their egos and constant trash talking, but at least I know they won't be winning any Super Bowls in the process.
You take comfort in whatever it is that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I'll take the 10 out of the last 14 years in the playoffs over the Bengals playoff runs anyday.:D

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Eric, you sound like a bitter mis-guided individual.. Football is a rough sport in case you did not know that. About the only statement in your post that is true, is the Steelers wanted to win badly. As far as winning "anything"?? Cowher is the winningest coach in the NFL over the last ten years. True, he has not won a Super Bowl, but I think that applies to quite a few other coaches. As far as egos and trash talking?? You dont think the Bengals were doing the same thing? They are still doing it...Your own fans disrespected your franchise for the longest time, no support, wearing bags etc...Now they have one great year and the fans have forgotten that. The Bengals would have lost with or without Palmer so get over it...If one player makes the whole team, then your team did not deserve to be there.
By the way, How do you know what kind of person Palmer is? Do you really know him? ..
he is a great QB who has a big contract. I am sure he will be back to the same level he was at before the injury, and if the Bengals can get a Defense, they will be great...

not trying to be confrontational, but your statements in your post just plain stink...

[Eric]

Eric, you sound like a bitter mis-guided individual.. Football is a rough sport in case you did not know that. About the only statement in your post that is true, is the Steelers wanted to win badly. As far as winning "anything"?? Cowher is the winningest coach in the NFL over the last ten years. True, he has not won a Super Bowl, but I think that applies to quite a few other coaches. As far as egos and trash talking?? You dont think the Bengals were doing the same thing? They are still doing it...Your own fans disrespected your franchise for the longest time, no support, wearing bags etc...Now they have one great year and the fans have forgotten that. The Bengals would have lost with or without Palmer so get over it...If one player makes the whole team, then your team did not deserve to be there.
By the way, How do you know what kind of person Palmer is? Do you really know him? ..
he is a great QB who has a big contract. I am sure he will be back to the same level he was at before the injury, and if the Bengals can get a Defense, they will be great...

not trying to be confrontational, but your statements in your post just plain stink...

As you said, Cowher's never won a Super Bowl. As I said, the Steelers never will with Cowher as head coach. History tells me I'm right (his career playoff record is 9-9).

I didn't say the Steelers wanted to win badly. I said they wanted to win badly enough that they'd take out our best player which was their only chance to win. It's obviously impossible to know, but the fact Palmer threw one pass and it was complete for 66 yards to our number 3 wide receiver coupled with the fact we beat Pittsburgh a month ago tells me if von Oellhoffen hadn't injured Palmer, the Bengals most likely would have won.

The Bengals don't talk trash the way the Steelers do. I'm sure they have players that do (Houshmandzadeh has openly admitted he'll start talking when opponents do the same), but it's not the same as the Steelers' talking. Look at the game film. You'll see Joey Porter talking trash to Rudi Johnson on every single tackle he's involved in. You'll also see guys like David Pollack and Odell Thurman talking, but talking to their teammates, not the opposing players. Look at Jerome Bettis. He was up and taunting the Bengals bench after short run when the score was 31-17.

That's the kind of thing Cowher allows and promotes amongst his players. Even after the game, Hines Ward said "We dey put their a** out of the tournament." To me, that's about as low as you can get. The game's already won, and there's nothing to gain by being a sore winner, but that's the Steelers under Bill Cowher, and that's part of why I don't think they'll win anything with him as their coach. All that regular season success has gone to their head despite a history of choking in the playoffs. They're much too arrogant to be champions. Do you think Marvin Lewis would ever allow anyone on the Bengals to say something like Hines Ward said?

And I shouldn't even respond to this, but I'll humor you. I know what kind of person Palmer is as a player and professional. I know he's a gifted athlete with the potential to be one of the best ever. I know he's a hard worker and committed to his job as quarterback and leader of this team. That's why I know he'll do what it takes to get back into form and pick up where he left off. I don't need to know him personally to know these things. I just have to have read about him and followed his career as much as I have to this point.

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Um, I think you should hear/read what the magnificent Marvin Lewis is saying about the Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger..

and thanks for humoring me...You dont know him...I knew that...LOL

One last Boo Hoo for ya ....

[Joe Solak]

As you said, Cowher's never won a Super Bowl. As I said, the Steelers never will with Cowher as head coach. History tells me I'm right (his career playoff record is 9-9).

I didn't say the Steelers wanted to win badly. I said they wanted to win badly enough that they'd take out our best player which was their only chance to win. It's obviously impossible to know, but the fact Palmer threw one pass and it was complete for 66 yards to our number 3 wide receiver coupled with the fact we beat Pittsburgh a month ago tells me if von Oellhoffen hadn't injured Palmer, the Bengals most likely would have won.

The Bengals don't talk trash the way the Steelers do. I'm sure they have players that do (Houshmandzadeh has openly admitted he'll start talking when opponents do the same), but it's not the same as the Steelers' talking. Look at the game film. You'll see Joey Porter talking trash to Rudi Johnson on every single tackle he's involved in. You'll also see guys like David Pollack and Odell Thurman talking, but talking to their teammates, not the opposing players. Look at Jerome Bettis. He was up and taunting the Bengals bench after short run when the score was 31-17.

That's the kind of thing Cowher allows and promotes amongst his players. Even after the game, Hines Ward said "We dey put their a** out of the tournament." To me, that's about as low as you can get. The game's already won, and there's nothing to gain by being a sore winner, but that's the Steelers under Bill Cowher, and that's part of why I don't think they'll win anything with him as their coach. All that regular season success has gone to their head despite a history of choking in the playoffs. They're much too arrogant to be champions. Do you think Marvin Lewis would ever allow anyone on the Bengals to say something like Hines Ward said?

And I shouldn't even respond to this, but I'll humor you. I know what kind of person Palmer is as a player and professional. I know he's a gifted athlete with the potential to be one of the best ever. I know he's a hard worker and committed to his job as quarterback and leader of this team. That's why I know he'll do what it takes to get back into form and pick up where he left off. I don't need to know him personally to know these things. I just have to have read about him and followed his career as much as I have to this point.
Eric, what about what Marvin Lewis said after the game, you think that wasn't him being a sore loser? I don't agree with a lot of trash talking and some of the comments that were made. However, I'm a fan of a team, I can't control what they do or what they say. And just because someone is a fan of a team doesn't mean they condone everything the players and coaches on that team say or do. If that was the case the Vikings fans would all be a bunch of losers.

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Well said Joe...

[Eric]

Marvin said we weren't going to baby and cry about Palmer's injury the way Roethlisberger complained that Odell Thurman tried to injure him the last time the Bengals played and beat them. Maybe it wasn't the most professional way of saying it, but the bottom line is Ben accused Odell of trying to injure him on a play that wasn't near as dangerous or severe as the one that put our best player out for 8 months (we didn't even get a flag on the play which really angered Marvin).

Besides, if you're taking one quote from Marvin Lewis, you should look at the two quotes from Big Ben that give him reason to say such things. First would be accusing Thurman of a cheapshot, and second would be accusing the Colts of pumping in fake crowd noise. To me, that's textbook whiner/crybaby behavior, and most (if not all) of the coaches in this league would agree there's no place for that in the game.

[Joe Solak]

Marvin said we weren't going to baby and cry about Palmer's injury the way Roethlisberger complained that Odell Thurman tried to injure him the last time the Bengals played and beat them. Maybe it wasn't the most professional way of saying it, but the bottom line is Ben accused Odell of trying to injure him on a play that wasn't near as dangerous or severe as the one that put our best player out for 8 months (we didn't even get a flag on the play which really angered Marvin).

Besides, if you're taking one quote from Marvin Lewis, you should look at the two quotes from Big Ben that give him reason to say such things. First would be accusing Thurman of a cheapshot, and second would be accusing the Colts of pumping in fake crowd noise. To me, that's textbook whiner/crybaby behavior, and most (if not all) of the coaches in this league would agree there's no place for that in the game.
I don't condone Ben whining about Thurman's hit, I posted in this forum that Ben should quit whining and keep his mouth shut. And I also don't agree with saying crap to rub it in that you won. One could make the argument that those comments were in retaliation to some of the Bengals comments such as Chad Johnson made weeks ago. None of will never know what is said on the field, maybe the Steelers were the ones being idiots and talking all the trash, maybe they said what they did in response to things the Bengal's players said during the game. Either way, I think it's pretty juvenile for someone to come on here and bash a fan for something the team or players they root for said.

[Eric]

I agree completely, Joe.

[Felty]

Joe,

Nice post. Once again you show that your one of the good guys on this board. :)

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

Carson will be back and just as effective. He's a proven pocket QB and he Bengals will definately work on improving thier O line as they build around him for the future. I see a new power rising in the west, and it scares me.

[Svoboda]

We could use some Bengal fans over at the Nation to go toe to toe with Solak!

* points to sig *

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Eric, you have more answers than Websters has words. Your an arrogant little boy are you not?

BOO HOO !

[dingdongdunn44]

Hey bengals nation! Great year for us, hopefully by now we are over the loss and realize how awesome we were this year. Anyways, we all know there's alot we need to improve on, mostly on the defensive side. I also think that a good sure handed tight end would be awesome for 3rd down conversions. i don't like schobel cuz he's not very athletic and has trouble finding the 1st down marker and reggie kelly is a great blocking TE but also doesn't do much with the ball. Do you think we should draft a TE cuz there aren't many in the NFL up for free agency and then try to fill some holes on the defense via free agency? or should we draft strictly defense? I'd like to get that big boy from Georgia, i think his name is Pope? Our Georgia boys so far have been great, so why not add another? I think after this year, since we have proven ourselves to be a top tier team in the league that we should attract more free agents which is where i think we can improve our run defense and perhaps grab another corner or safety. Don't forget that madieu williams will be back next year... but i heard we may be getting rid of tory james. i just wanted to get the rest of your thoughts on what direction you guys think we should go. i was looking for a list of free agents for next year but i wasn't able to find one to see who might fit in with our defense.

[tjcurrie]

Im a Niner fan, and the Bengals and Broncos are my secondary teams. I gotta say I was really peed off at that game.Atleast it coulda been a good game with Palmer and the boys going toe to toe with the Steelers likely in a victorious shootout. I dont think Von Oelhoffen tried to hurt him, but he tried to hit him. Which was a little late so it shoulda been called. If the Bengals can shore up a bit of D, they are the team in that div. Now I hate the Steelers and I hope even more now that the Broncos whoop em on Sunday.

[Eric]

Hey bengals nation! Great year for us, hopefully by now we are over the loss and realize how awesome we were this year. Anyways, we all know there's alot we need to improve on, mostly on the defensive side. I also think that a good sure handed tight end would be awesome for 3rd down conversions. i don't like schobel cuz he's not very athletic and has trouble finding the 1st down marker and reggie kelly is a great blocking TE but also doesn't do much with the ball. Do you think we should draft a TE cuz there aren't many in the NFL up for free agency and then try to fill some holes on the defense via free agency? or should we draft strictly defense? I'd like to get that big boy from Georgia, i think his name is Pope? Our Georgia boys so far have been great, so why not add another? I think after this year, since we have proven ourselves to be a top tier team in the league that we should attract more free agents which is where i think we can improve our run defense and perhaps grab another corner or safety. Don't forget that madieu williams will be back next year... but i heard we may be getting rid of tory james. i just wanted to get the rest of your thoughts on what direction you guys think we should go. i was looking for a list of free agents for next year but i wasn't able to find one to see who might fit in with our defense.

I thought we'd get some big names last year based on how much we'd improved and the fact Marvin's our coach, but we didn't get much. We made the playoffs this year, and we caught most of the world's attention, but I'm not expecting many people wanting to come here. I heard that one of the Panther's D lineman might not be resigned. I forget his name, but I'd love for him to come here. Anyone from Carolina's D would help.

James is getting up there in age, so it wouldn't surprise me to hear they're trying to find a replacement. As far as I'm concerned, we need improvement pretty much everywhere on defense. I think we've got some good guys who need to stay, but at the same time if the guys we have were good enough, we wouldn't have been so horrible on D. It will help to have Madieu back, but he hasn't shown he can stay healthy, so I'm almost to the point that I say we find a replacement. I hate to say that cause when he's healthy he's great, but he's injured WAY too often.

My biggest concern this off season is Carson getting healthy. Not only for our sake but for his own. He didn't deserve that hit, and he definitely doesn't deserve to suffer any kind of long-term or career affecting conditions. He's going to be one of the best this league has ever seen. It was a great second season for him, and he can only get better. He just needs the chance to prove it.

I'll forever hate the Steelers anyway, but I especially hate them now. I can't wait for Carson to get his chance to show them what would have happened if Kimo hadn't taken that shot.

[hockeyfightsguy]

the hype for the first bengal-steeler tilt next season is going to be off the charts............

[dingdongdunn44]

yeah, idk. i say we just let bygones be bygones and get over it. carson will be back so there's no reason to stay pissed cuz it already happened. as far as madieu, he played his whole rookie season, last year he just had an injured shoulder then rushed his return and that took him out for the year. it was just one year. i wouldn't replace him yet...

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

LOL at ERIC...What a funny guy....LOL!

[Eric]

You're funny, too, Tom. But not like "haha" funny, more like "mm, that's sad" funny. Like a kid who likes to run into walls or beat his head against things.

dunn,
Forgive but never forget. Don't do anything stupid, and don't go looking for revenge, but never forget what they took from you, just like any team that puts you out of the playoffs. Besides, the fact it's the Steelers means there's mutual hatred to begin with. Carson's injury doesn't change that (and if you don't hate Pittsburgh then you and I need to have a serious talk). And I'm not saying replace Madieu yet, but I'm saying if he doesn't show he can play an entire season (or nearly that) then look for someone else. He has a responsibility to this team, and we suffered without him, so he needs to do what it takes to make sure he's healthy and ready to go on Sundays.

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Eric, I am so glad I am under your skin....I will stay there just to keep your hatred alive..What an idiot...
I wont forget your little comments..

[Eric]

Eric, I am so glad I am under your skin....I will stay there just to keep your hatred alive..What an idiot...
I wont forget your little comments..

You forgot to say LOL, Tom. Or maybe you've replaced the LOLs with extra periods or something? I count 11 in that one post alone.

Oh, Tom. You're so funny.

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Oh Eric, your such a (....).. LOL....LOL.....

Count those periods now, and use you imagination...You idiot...

[Felty]

http://carsonpalmer.typepad.com/

Carson Palmer online blog. Hopefully he will keep us updated on his rehab. So we won't have to worry so much.

[Eric]

Great link, Felty. I never realized Carson had a blog, but then, pretty much everyone has a blog these days so I shouldn't be surprised. I'll be bookmarking that page, and like you say, hopefully he'll keep us updated.

[nevsky41]

I don't think Carson's injury will hurt his career very badly. He's not much of a scrambler, and even so, his injury isn't as bad as Wilis McGahee's was, and look at him. Carson will be fine as long as he doesn't rush rehab.

[Eric]

I agree, nevsky. It all comes down to his rehab and how committed he is to getting back to form. And I think he'll do everything he can without jeopardizing himself. It's impossible to tell when he'll be ready to go, but if not by training camp I think he'll be ready by preseason or the start of the regular season. I don't know how much he'd be affected by missing camp or preseason, but I wouldn't think it'd be too bad since he can still "study" the game. Maybe he'll be rusty to start out, but most guys are anyway.

[nevsky41]

Weird little related bit... don't know if any of you guys watches the Showtime's "The L Word," but they did a scene in the last show that featured one fo the characters, a tennis pro, being interviewed on an ESPN-like channel, with scores of NFL teams rolling along the bottom, and in these scores, Cincinnati shutout Indianapolis 38-0.

Here's hoping for next season!!! Just thought you guys might get a kick out of that.

[Eric]

That might be pushing it a little bit, so I'll just hope for 35-0. ;-)

[nevsky41]

Hey guys, just wondering what everyone thinks of the Dexter Jackson and Sam Adams signings?

I think both of them will shore up the run defense. Adams is the protypical run-stuffer we needed, and even though he is older, he's a proven talent with plenty of upside. JAckson is a less glamorous signing, but he's a hard-hitting safety and he's got a mean streak. Definitely an upgrade to the position, and the defense as a whole.

[Eric]

I like them because I think they're an upgrade over what they had, and because it eases the pressure of having to come up big in the draft. I'm not sure if they are/were the best they could have done, but they could have done worse. Plus, I believe in anyone Marvin wants on board.

Have they made an official announcement yet about Sam Adams? It's been days since it was reported, but so far I haven't seen anything definitive from the organization.

[nevsky41]

What's everyone think about the Anthony Wright signing? I prefer him to the prospects either Jamie Martin or Tony Banks. Wright doesn't have anywhere near Carson's accuracy, but he's got a strong arm and decent decision making. I'm hoping he doesn't have to play ANY games in 2006, but if he does, I'm thinking Rudi and Chris P. are going to be getting a major workout in those early Carson-less games.

And, just some thoughts rolling around my head...

- I believe we're going to be seeing some smash-mouth D this season. Madieu is coming back, Jackson is a hard-hitter opposite him, Odell and Pollack are only going to get better (how scary is that prospect?), and the addition of Adams gives the line that big, mean run stuffer that's been the missing piece of the puzzle. No 28th-ranked run defense this season!

- I think Carson is going to come back even better than last year. Recent trends in knee injuries, with proper rehab (and the kind of determination, dedication, and fire that Carson possesses), show that many players come back even stronger than before the injury. And from every interview I've read or heard with Carson this offseason, he is determined to better his performance, and not let his injury hold him back. I think his scrambling ability might take a dip, but that's not his meal ticket, so his game won't be too affected. His accuracy and cannon arm are what did it last season, and I see no reason for them not to repeat the magic. His injury, as I understand it, was not as serious as Daunte Culpepper's, and he is expected to recover completely, so why shouldn't Carson?

[Eric]

I like the Wright signing for the same reasons you do, nevsky. The thought of Jamie Martin wearing the stripes and, worse, playing for the Bengals didn't sit well with me. And Wright's got better stats than you'd think for how poor he and Baltimore seemed to have played (at least in my mind). With any trade or signing, if Marvin believes in it, so do I.

I think a lot is riding on Madieu coming back healthy and staying healthy all season. If he gets injured again this year and misses any more than a game or two, I say it's time to send him packing (I'm too hard on him, I know). I'm not ready to give the D too much credit just yet, but the potential is there. It'll be interesting to see how things unfold.

And what's everyone thinking about the draft? Do they go with a TE in the first round, a defensive player, or just the best available? Personally I have no idea, but I have to admit I like the idea of a big, sure-handed TE for Carson to terrorize defenses even more so with.

[nevsky41]

Okay, what does everyone think about this draft?

I'm kind of stuck not knowing what to think. We were drafting at that stage of the 1st round where there aren't many players whom I, not being a college football junkie, am real familiar with.

I just hope Jonathan Joseph turns out awesome. Personally, I wanted the Bengals to draft Tamba Hali... DAMN YOU HERMAN EDWARDS!!! Damn you and your running the ball on every 3rd and 11!!!! :P

Also, the Sporting News, a publication I usually find pertty on target with their predictions, had the Bengals taking Nick Mangold in every mock draft they published. I don't really understand why, since we drafted Richie Braham's successor last year. Nothing against Mangold, but I knew the Bengals wouldn't draft him.

Also, Jonathan Joseph kinda looks like PRIDE FC's middleweight champion Vanderlei Silva. Sorry no side-by-side comparisson, but I'm at the Library right now. Maybe I'll update with one later.

[Eric]

I'm a little perplexed about this draft. As always, I'm giving Marvin the benefit of the doubt, but I'm surprised there was no tight end drafted at all. I think they need some better corners (I love Deltha and Tory, but if they're not intercepting the ball they're giving up huge amounts of yardage), so drafting Joseph is OK with me. I guess the theme was speed for this year, so hopefully that pays off in some better special teams or big plays.

[Felty]

Been a long time since I posted in this thread..

Bengals hope your sitting down if you not heard this news yet. It's a killer..

Odell suspended first month of season... This offseason just keeps getting worst all the time.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060713/SPT02/307130033/1066

[Eric]

Been a long time since I posted in this thread..

Bengals hope your sitting down if you not heard this news yet. It's a killer..

Odell suspended first month of season... This offseason just keeps getting worst all the time.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060713/SPT02/307130033/1066

Well, that freakin' sucks. I don't know how these guys can't keep their noses clean, but we've sure got more than enough that can't. The first month wasn't going to be easy, anyway, and not having Odell sure won't help that any.

[Felty]

I know it's early. Did you guys see the preason game last night? Chris Henry looked really good. Let's hope he can stay out of jail..

[Eric]

Chris Henry proved why he's received so much latitude with the team. The kid is good already, and he's only gonna get better. Of all the guys that have been arrested or suspended, I think he's got the most upside.

I wasn't impressed with Wright. I think it took him too long to get going, and by the time he did I think it was mostly second stringers and below he was facing.

The defense was impressive, especially against the run. I'm sure it helped that Portis wasn't playing, but they really tightened up pretty quick.

And for all the haters/analysts who don't want to believe this team can ball hawk like it did last year, they come up with three interceptions to shut those "experts" up.

[nevsky41]

Hey, long time, no post, but I have returned.

After 2 preseason games, I'm not really worried too much about Wright filling in if Carson misses some time. I'm hoping he doesn't, but I also hope more that Carson doesn't rush back. I don't want to trade the future for a couple of games right now.

I'm more worried about Rudi's lack of anything. I wasn't too thrilled when I heard he'd dropped weight. Muscle is so important when you're battering ram back like Rudi, hopefully it's nothing to be worried about, but I'm hoping Rudi does a bit more on Monday.

[Eric]

I don't care about much of anything during the preseason. I still enjoy watching the games, and when guys like DeDe Dorsey step in and play well it makes it even more enjoyable rooting for them, but performances from the starters don't really affect me. If Rudi doesn't do well to start the regular season, I'll be distressed, but lackluster play in the preseason when running backs don't play much at all anyway is no biggie.

[Eric]

Well, Carson played last night and everything came off without a hitch. The whole offense looked impressive. As well all know and have heard repeatedly, it's an entirely different team with Carson at QB. I'm going to the game on Friday in Indy. I hope Carson plays the whole first half again.

They said the entire Bengal fanbase was holding its breath when Carson dropped back for the first time. I agree with that, but I'd like to add I think the Pittsburgh fanbase was holding its breath, too. The only difference was they were hoping for the opposite result. :D

[Purdue_Pete]

Carson looked 100% last night. As a Colts fan - it's a little frightening to have the Bengals in the AFC to say the least. Good luck - hopefully we'll see you in the AFC Championship game! :D

[Raven Maniac (aka TJ87)]

Well, Carson played last night and everything came off without a hitch. The whole offense looked impressive. As well all know and have heard repeatedly, it's an entirely different team with Carson at QB. I'm going to the game on Friday in Indy. I hope Carson plays the whole first half again.

They said the entire Bengal fanbase was holding its breath when Carson dropped back for the first time. I agree with that, but I'd like to add I think the Pittsburgh fanbase was holding its breath, too. The only difference was they were hoping for the opposite result. :D

The Ravens fanbase was holding its breath, too. We let it out with a whimper. I think the Bengals are going to run away with the division this year. If the Ravens don't, I'd rather see the Bengals than the stinkin' Steelers!

[warchant01]

I think the biggest problem now facing the Bengals is who to cut...they are going to have to cut some very talented players, especially at the WR and LB positions, with RB not that far behind. Alot of these guys will make it onto other rosters.

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

The Bengals looked tremendous last night...It was truly nice to see carson palmer back on the field..That coming from a Steeler Fan..

And Eric, I am a Steeler fan, and I hope nothing but the best for Carson Palmer...I never hold my breath, hoping an opponent of the Steelers is going to get hurt... If the Steelers are meant to win, they will.. If not, the sun will come out tomorrow...

[ccb3]

Maybe I can finally get a real one of these!

http://home1.gte.net/res0te0t/bengals.jpg

[Eric]

The Bengals looked tremendous last night...It was truly nice to see carson palmer back on the field..That coming from a Steeler Fan..

And Eric, I am a Steeler fan, and I hope nothing but the best for Carson Palmer...I never hold my breath, hoping an opponent of the Steelers is going to get hurt... If the Steelers are meant to win, they will.. If not, the sun will come out tomorrow...

There are always a few bad apples in every fanbase, but I know most fans don't want to see anyone get injured or remain injured. I just wanted to make the point that if Carson hadn't returned so quickly, life would be much easier for the rest of the AFC North.

[Felty]

Stuck with Randy Cross once again.. Thank God for the radio and mute button. :D

Nice first half. Didn't expect them to hold the chiefs to 3 points.

[Spazz]

They are looking good today, really playing good D.

[Felty]

hope and pray green is ok.. That was bad looking.. :(

[Purdue_Pete]

hope and pray green is ok.. That was bad looking.. :(

I picked the Bengals, like them and was rooting for them - but Geathers tried to kill Green. That was a hit that was totally unnecessary. Green was sliding.

Idiot...

[Franchise Video]

That was pretty sick. Once he was hit, he was not moving.

[Franchise Video]

I picked the Bengals, like them and was rooting for them - but Geathers tried to kill Green. That was a hit that was totally unnecessary. Green was sliding.

Idiot...


One of the KC players pushed him into Green. Its a clean hit

[Felty]

In honor of the game tomorrow. Long time fans will remember this. :D

It still cracks me up thinking about it.

http://www.getsportsinfo.com/lance/samwyche.mp3

[pucho58]

The Road to the Super Bowl goes through Pittsburgh. Go Steelers:D

[Felty]

Anytime you can get a win against a division rival I will take it..

I am very sad to hear about David Pollack though :(.. I wish him the best and hope he can make a full recovery...

[Joe Solak]

Anytime you can get a win against a division rival I will take it..

I am very sad to hear about David Pollack though :(.. I wish him the best and hope he can make a full recovery...
Sorry to hear about David Pollack, hope for a full and speedy recovery.

[Joe Solak]

I just want to thank the Bengal's fans that come over to the Steeler's thread and can hold a mature civilized conversation. Yeah, Cincy and Pittsburgh are heated rivals but I can appreciate arguing with you guys without acting like idiots. Plus I can't hate a lot of you because a lot of you are Ohio State fans too. For those who do come to our thread and act like idiots, take a lesson from the classy guys this post is meant for!

[bluemacaw2]

Hey Felty, just saw your thread for the first time I think..hehe.....figured I'd drop in for a quick ...probably unwelcomed visit...LOL
Good luck to your boys Sunday....hope it's a doozy!!! ;)
And yeah what Joe Solak says...it seems most of the Bengal fans that dropped in the Steeler thread are pretty cool and keep the smack clean to a point. :) I may go off on someone every so often but it is usally because of the annoying pests on the board they are just plain jealous and haters that just like to talk nonsense to get people fired up......plus I have Joey Porter Syndrome and just can't help myself sometimes...hehe.
But serioulsy....I respect the other teams in the league........you gotta appreciate the skills of others and just enjoy watching this great game for what it's worth.

[Eric]

It's fun to post with people who root for other teams because you're more likely to disagree and therefore have some interesting conversations/debates. I tried posting on another board that had an AFC North board instead of individual team boards, but it wasn't very good for conversation with other teams. The posters there weren't like the ones here.

And bluemacaw, your post isn't unwelcome here, at least not as far as I'm concerned. We're keeping things civil in each other's threads, and until that changes I welcome posters from other teams to chat it up here.

[tjcurrie]

Anyone wanna read somethin funny involving Chad Johnson and Troy Polamalu, shoot me an email and Ill send it to you.
traviscurrie@yahoo.ca

[bluemacaw2]

Good luck to your Bengals this weekend guys!!! Looking forward to a great and entertaining game!!!

[Bronx Bombers]

Hey guys are Chad Johnsons Brains still scrambled from Russell?

[Eric]

Hey guys are Chad Johnsons Brains still scrambled from Russell?

The more important question would be whether or not Brian Russell's career has already peaked with that hit. My guess is he has, seeing as how I'd never heard his name before that.

And here's another question: are the Browns going to win more than 3 games this year?

[Spazz]

Big game today, looking for alot of big plays from the D like this:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a3/rick__willey/120fs388544.gif

[HoosierDaddy]

Good luck guys. It should be a good game.

[hockeyfightsguy]

The more important question would be whether or not Brian Russell's career has already peaked with that hit. My guess is he has, seeing as how I'd never heard his name before that.

And here's another question: are the Browns going to win more than 3 games this year?

Wow, Russell had a ton of int's as a Viking and may have went to a pro bowl there....he is a decent player....that hit on Chad Johnson is one for the ages, everyone will always remember him now.

[Bronx Bombers]

The more important question would be whether or not Brian Russell's career has already peaked with that hit. My guess is he has, seeing as how I'd never heard his name before that.

And here's another question: are the Browns going to win more than 3 games this year?

Dude dont get mad at me im not the one that basiclly raped Chad Johnson on that play.

[Joe Solak]

Congrats guys. Neither of our teams played that well and both ade a lot of huge mistakes. Cincy was able to score on two huge fumbles by Pittsburgh. I was expecting a close game, just not so many turnovers.

[Eric]

Dude dont get mad at me im not the one that basiclly raped Chad Johnson on that play.

I'm not mad. My team is 3-0. How's life in the cellar of the AFC North?

[Eric]

Congrats guys. Neither of our teams played that well and both ade a lot of huge mistakes. Cincy was able to score on two huge fumbles by Pittsburgh. I was expecting a close game, just not so many turnovers.

Thanks, Joe. I think we all were expecting fewer turnovers. Definitely an ugly win, but a win nonetheless. You gotta take 'em how you can get 'em.

[Joe Solak]

Thanks, Joe. I think we all were expecting fewer turnovers. Definitely an ugly win, but a win nonetheless. You gotta take 'em how you can get 'em.
True, if it were the other way around I would have taken it!

[roynd1]

Congrats on the win.Give Coclough a game ball please!! I hate that f@#$er (f@#$er) and he just proved my hatred deserved.:o

[Diab0lus]

I know I will take a division win anyway we can get it, sloppy or not. Especially a win against the Steelers. Coclough totally whiffed that punt return. What was he thinking? And then Hayes sealed it when he fumbled the ball.

Well, the last game of the year should be very, VERY interesting.

[HoosierDaddy]

Congrats Bengals fans. That was a hard game to sit through and your team pulled it off. That is a good feeling. It sucks for me though.:(

:) :) Peace.:) :)

[bluemacaw2]

Congrats Bengal fans....you did what had to be done taking care of the opportunities and cashing in when you needed to. I just don't think we should have lost that game, but there are no what IFS in the game....Congrats.

[Steelcurtain78]

Congrats to the Bengals. See you at the end of the year.

[Spazz]

Great win today, the defense came up big. The O-line played like crap with Richie out.

[Felty]

That was certainly winning ugly. A win is a win though and I will take it. Especially against a division rival.

[dingdongdunn44]

i think today exploited the bengals weaknesses, and with us getting a win out of it, i think is that much better. we learned and won at the same time. We now know what we need to work on for next week, another HUGE game in the AFC. We definitely need to work on pass protection and stopping the run. It was too easy for willy parker to run on us. Yes we had injuries, but i don't see that as an excuse, it's all about executing your game plan and idk if we did that defensively.

Nevertheless, if the Brownies can do us a huge favor and take down the Ravens today, we will be sitting atop the North all alone. It's a great day to be a Bengals fan... if i could change anythingg about the game today, it would be to have gotten chad the ball more because i know he feels bad about not being involved.

[Eric]

I just hope he doesn't lose his mind or blow up this week. He's got every right to be pissed; Carson doesn't try hard enough to get him the ball. Chad's been really mature since Marvin got here, and he's been getting better all the time, but one freakin' catch against Pittsburgh? That's a pretty major deal.

[icee82]

Johnson was covered tight most of the day. It is a team game and I certainly do not want Chad Johnson to become another TO.

[Felty]

Thurman gone for the year.
http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5535

I kinda doubt he will ever play for the bengals again. I think Lewis is getting fed up with this crap.

[Eric]

Not a surprise. And I think he's done as a Bengal, too. Too much selfish behavior that Marvin's been harping on for a while now. He's not a Bengal, and he's not worthy of the stripes.

I hope he gets himself together, though.

[Eric]

Just read the link from Bengals.com.

It really pisses me off when I think of how careless you gotta be to ruin a career that pays you millions of dollars, and that's not even considering the fact you probably love football more than anything. And he did it for alcohol of all things. I mean, I could understand if it had something to do with a fine-a** woman, but alcohol? Ya gotta be kidding me.

And I swear I typed the word "harping" in my last post before I read that article where Carson uses the same word. I guess it's true: great minds and minds of outstanding quarterbacks think alike. :D

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

I figure since you all like to come on the Steeler thread and talk your crap, I thought I would return the favor..

great game by the Bengals today...2 weeks in a row they got pounded, and I think it is just the beginning.. Dont make any plans for playoffs, just make golf plans..

[dingdongdunn44]

ya tom, you got us. congratulations. i'm not going to make any excuses like you guys. i could, but i'm not. we looked horrible. i think the bengals had an emmotional let down after such a huge win last weekend and they just couldn't get up for two huge games in a row. The patriots had something to prove and they beat arguably the best team in the AFC according to some people. They exposed the weakness in the D even more and also showed us how much we miss rich braham. We have a lot of work to do. Carson looked scared to death and had happy feet. I'm extremely disappointed, but as bad as the Bengals played, that's how great the Pats played. They are still a force to be reckoned with. i'm glad the bye week is coming up. Hopefully the bitter taste in the Bengals mouth will motivate them the rest of the season. You really did hurt my feelings tom, i wish you would stop it.

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

would it help if I said I was sorry? would it ease the pain?
That bitter taste in their mouth, does that have anything to do with the Steelers tinkling in their water bottles?

I am just messing with you a bit...returning the favor a little. That is two weeks in a row, your team was beat up.. At this rate, Palmer will be gone by week 7...It was a little too early for everyone to start talking about the steeler demise...

[roynd1]

I'm not here to talk trash but I watched the game today as well as last week, obviously ,and I have to say you guys HAVE to get your run defense together.Just to easy running up the gut on them right now.How long is Braham out for?Even with him out I'm shocked at how many fumbles Carson has had!:eek: Like I was saying last week,it's a long season don't panic and just like us you're getting the bye week at the right time.

[dingdongdunn44]

haha tom, thing is, we don't really care what steelers fans have to say. it doesn't bother us whatsoever. we know we got our as ses kicked... we got embarassed, but we have alot of time to fix things. i'm not that worried... yet

[Felty]

I figure since you all like to come on the Steeler thread and talk your crap, I thought I would return the favor..

great game by the Bengals today...2 weeks in a row they got pounded, and I think it is just the beginning.. Dont make any plans for playoffs, just make golf plans..

Tom congrats on lowering yourself to the idiot stage. I thought you were one of the few cool steelers fans on the board. I see now I was wrong.

Coming from a steelers fan it shouldn't suprise me.. :rolleyes:

Also you are so wrong to assume we all talk crap in the steelers thread. Find one thread where I talked crap about the steelers..

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Felty, thanks for the compliment...ie Idiot stage.. Alway nice to hear. Its ok, I know your emotional right now. I was having some fun with a few of your Bungal followers. I did not say "everyone" came on the steeler thread, but Digdong, Eric, and a few others did. And for the most part, they know I am just kidding around. You on the other hand, take things way too serious..

Let me ask you this..when did you help the Bengals score a touchdown? how about prevent one? Thats right, we have nothing to do with the success/failure of the teams we support.. But the talk in these thread, you would think that we do.. WRONG

Your stereotyping steeler fans is typical jealousy from a perennial losing organization follower. So I take your comments as praise..

geez, people on here are real sensitive anymore. Some tend to like to dish out the bull, but when its your turn to take it ...Boo friggin hoo. LOL

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Felty, thanks for the compliment...ie Idiot stage.. Alway nice to hear. Its ok, I know your emotional right now. I was having some fun with a few of your Bungal followers. I did not say "everyone" came on the steeler thread, but Digdong, Eric, and a few others did. And for the most part, they know I am just kidding around. You on the other hand, take things way too serious..

Let me ask you this..when did you help the Bengals score a touchdown? how about prevent one? Thats right, we have nothing to do with the success/failure of the teams we support.. But the talk in these thread, you would think that we do.. WRONG

Your stereotyping steeler fans is typical jealousy from a perennial losing organization follower. So I take your comments as praise..

geez, people on here are real sensitive anymore. Some tend to like to dish out the bull, but when its your turn to take it ...Boo friggin hoo. LOL

[Felty]

Tom,

Your exact quote was "since you all" I took that as you all. How else am I suppose to take that? As for dishing out the bull. I challenge you to find one post where I have done that.. Even after the bengals beat the steelers I credited the Steelers for giving us that one. A win is a win thought and I will take it. I also said we have not heard the last of the steelers. There is three good teams in the divison this year. Bengals, Steelers and Ravens and one of us won't make the playoffs this year..

Anyway I do apologize for calling you an idiot. Your post rubbed me the wrong way.. Especially since your post was in my thread that I started..

[ToightLikeATiger]

wow Steelers fans on here bragging about a Patriots win..... sorry guys but the Steelers couldnt get it done vs Cinci. Its sad and pathetic you need to use another team other then your own to bash a team.

and to Bengals fans... good game today... have a feeling will meet again in the playoffs

[ky76]

I'm glad the Bengals lost today. ;) seriously...they needed a loss....there defense kinda scared me though...:o



BTW...Steelers won't make the playoffs..(nothing personal....JMO ;))..Balitmore finally has a QB...they'll be the team to beat.


Dee

[roynd1]

wow Steelers fans on here bragging about a Patriots win..... sorry guys but the Steelers couldnt get it done vs Cinci. Its sad and pathetic you need to use another team other then your own to bash a team.

and to Bengals fans... good game today... have a feeling will meet again in the playoffs

You need to change that to Steelers fan!! I didn't talk any crap and I posted on here.Actually I made general statements,asked a question and said incouraging things to the Bengals fans.Why do you feel you always need to bash Steeler fans??

[warchant01]

Some real problems today...they didn't really seem up for the game.

The O-Line is horrible, Carson's hands must have shrunk a little because he is having major problems holding on to the ball, The run-D is looking no better than last year - we need Dexter & Richie back big time.

[Joe Solak]

Attention Steeler's fans that post on here:

Yes, the Bengals are our hated rival. We won the championship last year. This is a new year and our team has not played well and are in a big hole in the division already. Most Cincy fans are good guys, there are a few who are complete idiots. Until we beat Cincy or pass them in the standings I don't see any reason to be talking **** on here. I know I hate when other teams fans come on our thread with stupid insults about Pittsburgh so let's not do it here. If you get irritated by the few idiot Bengal's fans, take the high road and don't respond. I am not trying to say I'm above it, I'm as guilty as anyone else. I get pissed off when those idiots come on our thread and can only post insults without any intelligent conversation, but if we stop arguing with them they won't get any fun out of it. Cincy fans, most of your are cool in my book, just a few morons that get on my nerves. Here's hoping for some friendly ribbing next time Cincy and Pittsburgh do battle!

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Hey Joe, nice post... But I was having some good natured fun and even said that.. If it bothers anyone, thats just the way it is..

Toight- your still a pathetic idiot... Dont need you scrubby team for anything. You puff out your chest like no other on here, and your probably 50 pounds soaking wet. There are a lot of things I would like to say to you, but your not worth the effort of typing

[ToightLikeATiger]

Hey Joe, nice post... But I was having some good natured fun and even said that.. If it bothers anyone, thats just the way it is..

Toight- your still a pathetic idiot... Dont need you scrubby team for anything. You puff out your chest like no other on here, and your probably 50 pounds soaking wet. There are a lot of things I would like to say to you, but your not worth the effort of typing

lol you bash a guy on here for calling you and idiot and then you turn around and do the same thing. still immature i see. get over yourself tom. you are a nobody.

sad thing also is you talked about being able to take it as much as you dish it. maybe you should take your own advise. cause obviously you can dish it but resort to personal attacks when its given back.

grow up Officer Immature

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

Yah Toight, you are real mature yourself. That is a laugh all in itself. You run your mouth all the time, attacking everyone..even when it is not necessary. for the record, I did not "bash" anyone for calling me anything..I thanked him. You see, me, unlike you was just kidding around. You on the other hand think that you are the most important person on here. Guess what, your not. This is the only place you can be heard, cause in real life people probably slap you around like a rag doll.

grow up immature nobody..

[ToightLikeATiger]

Yah Toight, you are real mature yourself. That is a laugh all in itself. You run your mouth all the time, attacking everyone..even when it is not necessary. for the record, I did not "bash" anyone for calling me anything..I thanked him. You see, me, unlike you was just kidding around. You on the other hand think that you are the most important person on here. Guess what, your not. This is the only place you can be heard, cause in real life people probably slap you around like a rag doll.

grow up immature nobody..

you can think all you want about me. i dont think im the most important person here at all. i dont attack anyone either. i come here for sports discussion. not agreeing with people is not bashing. obviously you dont know the difference.

you know nothing about me. but keep assuming things. it doesnt bother me one bit. btw wishful thinking people slap me around in real life. but im guessing by past threats youve made you would like to hit me wouldnt you?

i dont come on here making internet tough guy threats like you have done in the past.

you use to be a great boardmember. real class act who helped people and could handle discussions. then you turn in to this grade A jerk who just runs his mouth on people who dont like the steelers or who picks against them. you take it like its a personal attack. something in your life must have happened to make such a drastic change in attitude. sorry whatever happened to you happened and changed your attitude towards things.

im gonna save you the trouble and put you on my ignore list. im not gonna argue with you over unimportant things anymore. if dont wanna hear what i have to say in sports topics then i recommend you ignore me as well. go ahead and hate me...post insults and attack replies. i wont be seeing them. just thought id let you know and save you some time typing

[Tom R from Pittsburgh]

finally, the ignore list...

[Makaveli_tha_don]

^ in another lifetime, you two must have been soul mates

no matter what subject it is, you two are always at odds...what gives?

[Felty]

Congrats to the Bucs fans on the board.

As for my Bengals.. Bratkowski blows!!! He lost that game for us with his play calling... Big lose today with what we have coming up on the schedule.

[Avatar_of_Chaos]

I went to HS w/ Gradkowski, and you guys had him pretty rattled today, just not rattled enough to make him make a stupid mistake. That roughing the passer call was BS though.

[Felty]

I went to HS w/ Gradkowski, and you guys had him pretty rattled today, just not rattled enough to make him make a stupid mistake. That roughing the passer call was BS though.


He made the plays when he had too. I agree on the roughing the passer call. But we didn't deserve to win today.

[dingdongdunn44]

straight up embarassing. horrible conservative scared offense. with all the weapons we have, we looked like a scared peewee team. the refs didn't lose the game for us, we should have never been in that sort of a position to begin with. Pathetic.... and a 62 yard field goal try... enough said.