DOL-FANS UNITE!!!! 5-5 SEASON: RUN RICKY RUN, 119 YARDS, 2 TD'S, 1 REC. TD!

[cochese75]

The Dolphins are expected to play at the Detroit Lions at 12:30 p.m. on Thanksgiving day during the upcoming 2006 season. However, the NFL won't officially release its schedule until March or April.

This will mark the sixth time the Dolphins have played on Thanksgiving, and the first time they will face the Lions on Turkey day.

The last time the Dolphins appeared on Thanksgiving was against the Dallas Cowboys during the 2003 season. The Dolphins routed the Cowboys 40-21 and quarterback Jay Fiedler and wide receiver Chris Chambers both earned MVP honors.




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[Vandy58]

So um how about that Ricky Williams eh?

[cochese75]

Culpepper Dealt
The Vikings finally found a taker for Daunte Culpepper, and the Dolphins finally have their franchise quarterback. Minnesota has agreed to send Culpepper to Miami for a second-round pick.





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[badman]

finally a quarterback....

[pipetender]

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nfl/2006/0314/photo/g_culpepper_412.jpg

[Indy Jones]

You guys are going to be sorry a year from now. I've watched Culpepper and he's nothing without Moss.
Remember when Culpepper was injuried a few years back? Gus came in a played about 5 games and did exactly what Culpepper did. Throw deep bombs and let Randy catch them.
Culpepper = Gus.

I'm very happy with this, I'd glad you guys didnt get Brees.

[Vandy58]

You cannot even begin to say that Gus and Dante are =. Dante is a 10x better quaterback!

On another note forgot to announce SEAU IS GONE, RELEASED BY THE FINS!

[STILL Americas Team!]

Miami is winning the Super Bowl and Culpepper will have an MVP season.

[Chugga]

You guys are going to be sorry a year from now. I've watched Culpepper and he's nothing without Moss.
Remember when Culpepper was injuried a few years back? Gus came in a played about 5 games and did exactly what Culpepper did. Throw deep bombs and let Randy catch them.
Culpepper = Gus.

I'm very happy with this, I'd glad you guys didnt get Brees.

Unfortunately for that logic Chris Chambers is a hell of alot like a poor mans Randy Moss.

[Vandy58]

Unfortunately for that logic Chris Chambers is a hell of alot like a poor mans Randy Moss.

Exactly!

[pipetender]

I've always wondering the point of saying a QB isn't as good without a Pro Bowl reciever. Isn't that pretty much stating the obvious??

[Vandy58]

I just hope that they do not waste an exclusive on a repaint with culpepper, they need Taylor and Chambers

[cochese75]

Unfortunately for that logic Chris Chambers is a hell of alot like a poor mans Randy Moss.


A Buffalo fan should know......:D




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[Yukoner]

I'm very happy with this, I'd glad you guys didnt get Brees.

And I'm happy you still have Pennington.

[bambam73]

I've always wondering the point of saying a QB isn't as good without a Pro Bowl reciever. Isn't that pretty much stating the obvious??
Ask Jeff Garcia:D

[Miami Mike]

What's the next move?

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This has been an exciting offseason so far as Edgerrin James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4652) signed with the Cardinals, Daunte Culpepper (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4659) was traded to the Dolphins and the Saints signed quarterback Drew Brees (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5479). Barring some huge move down the road, these are going to be the crown jewels of these teams' offseasons, so let's take a quick look at each move and what the organization should do next to further help their team.
Advantage Miami


The signing of Culpepper could shift the balance of power in the AFC East.

Even though I still believe it's premature to say Culpepper will be ready by the start of training camp, I know this is an absolute steal for the Miami Dolphins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia) and a great present for offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey. Culpepper is a proven talent in the NFL and brings an explosiveness to the quarterback position that hasn't been seen in Miami since the retirement of Dan Marino.
His signing is a direct shot across the bow of the New England Patriots (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe), as the Dolphins now have an offense that can score consistently after years of being a one-dimensional team. The Dolphins were competitive last season in the AFC East, but the offense wasn't good enough to win games, and they fell short. That was because they didn't have a quarterback they could rely upon to make plays. That's not the case anymore, and now the Dolphins have the talent on both sides of the ball to overtake the Patriots.

It's amazing to me that the situation in Minnesota got to the point where Culpepper could be had for a mere second-round pick. Last season he would've gotten the Vikings a first-round pick and probably more, but due to his injury and the situation between him and the organization deteriorating so much, the Dolphins were able to get him on the cheap.

I don't believe Culpepper's feelings toward the Vikings are indicative of an athlete who is a whiner. He felt the Vikings handled him poorly and didn't feel they were up front and honest with him, so he acted out. It may not have been the most professional way to deal with things, but I don't believe he'll do the same thing in Miami. In a way, going to Miami is the perfect move for him because they have explosive players, a great ownership and is an organization that treats its players like family. It's also perfect because Culpepper is from Florida, went to school at Central Florida and also trains there. He's going to be very comfortable in Miami, and that's going to translate on the field.

As controversial as it may sound, the Dolphins' next step should be to sign wide receiver Terrell Owens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3664). A lineup with Owens and Chris Chambers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5499) at receiver, Randy McMichael (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6000) at tight end, Ronnie Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7178) at running back and Culpepper at quarterback would be extraordinarily difficult to defend. They would have the type of offensive balance that wins championships, especially when it's coupled with the Dolphins' typically stout defense. Coach Mularkey is an innovative coordinator, and I'm sure he would salivate at the opportunity to coach that type of talent. He's going to craft a gameplan that takes full advantage of the Dolphins' talent with or without Owens, but I'm sure he would kill for the chance to throw Owens into that mix.

Owens would fit in well with the Dolphins, because coach Nick Saban is not going to take the crap that other coaches have allowed Owens in the past few seasons. We wouldn't hear Owens spouting off in interviews, because Saban firmly believes in team chemistry and isn't going to let anyone believe for very long that he is more special than any other player. Saban is going to nip any problems in the bud and won't let them linger. Also, Miami would be a perfect place for Owens because it is such a veteran-laden team with an already established leadership in place that knows how to handle fellow players. These players work hard throughout the season, and Owens wouldn't be able to say he outworks everyone else and that's why he should be able to say what he wants. He would have no excuses and might get back to just playing football and keeping his mouth shut.

[Purdue_Pete]

Don't know how it will all work out - but a Culpepper 2 in a 'Fins Uni will be cool.

[Yukoner]

NO OWENS NO OWENS NO OWENS.

[Goalkeeper]

Man... I'm extremely excited but for some reason would've like to have landed Brees instead.

Am I crazy?

[mmevile]

Man... I'm extremely excited but for some reason would've like to have landed Brees instead.

Am I crazy?If your O line's suspect, would you prefer Brees over Culpepper still? ;)

[Vandy58]

Bump for Schedule update on first page

[Miami Mike]

I am planning on going to the Dolphins vs. Texans game. :D

[cochese75]

got an extra ticket?? :D
thats the closiest game for me being in Cali. :cool:




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[Vandy58]

It is official
“I’m disappointed with the decision but I respect it. I’m proud of my association with the National Football League and look forward to returning to the Dolphins in 2007.”

[mmevile]

Do we still pay him for this year? :confused:

[Cobra39]

LOL, the thread with Ricky and drugs was started in 2004. How did it live this long? I know...I know....Ricky has been doing drugs the whole time.

Cobra39

[Vandy58]

Well we just got Joey Harrington, I think he will be a good back up!

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060519/SPORTS01/605190399/1048/SPORTS

[Vandy58]

GOOD GOD I HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS A WEEK AGO? WOW! GO FINS!

[Vandy58]

That was a my bad
Dolphins Acquire Joey Harrington From Detroit
May 12, 2006


The Miami Dolphins today acquired four-year veteran quarterback Joey Harrington from the Detroit Lions in exchange for an undisclosed conditional draft choice.

“We’re pleased to have Joey Harrington join the Dolphins,” said Dolphins Head Coach Nick Saban. “We will work with him to get him acclimated to our system as quickly as possible.”

“I’m looking forward to playing for Coach Saban and the Dolphins,” Harrington said. “It’s a chance to earn people’s respect – work hard, prepare the very best I can and contribute in any way that I am asked.

“I’m excited about a fresh start in a new city, and I also appreciate the opportunity the Ford family and Matt Millen gave me in Detroit. I wish them nothing but the best and I know they will have success in the future.”

In his four seasons with the Lions, Harrington, the third overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft, has started 55 of the 58 games in which he has appeared, and completed 986 of 1,802 passes (54.7%) for 10,242 yards with 60 touchdowns and 62 interceptions. His best season as a pro came two years ago, in 2004, when he started all 16 games and connected on 274 of 489 passes for 3,047 yards with 19 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. That year, he became just the third quarterback in Lions lore to attain the 3,000-yard passing plateau as his yardage total is the fifth-highest in team history.

After entering his rookie training camp as the third-stringer, the 27-year-old Harrington earned a starting spot by the third week of the season. He went on to start 12 games that year and set Lions rookie records for passing yards (2,294), passing touchdowns (12), completions (215) and attempts (429).

The 6-4, 220-pound Harrington was a four-year letterman at the University of Oregon (1998-2001) who put together a 25-3 record as a starter over his final three seasons, including a 3-0 mark in bowl games. In his collegiate career, he completed 512 of 928 passes for 6,911 yards with 59 touchdowns and just 23 interceptions. His 7,121 yards of total offense rank third in school annals. As a senior in 2001, he was a first-team All-Pac-10 selection when he connected on 214 of 364 passes (58.8%) for 2,764 yards with 27 touchdowns and six interceptions.

Harrington is a native of Portland, Oregon, where he attended Central Catholic High School. Off the field, he helped to establish the Harrington Family Foundation (www.joeyharrington3.com), whose goal is to promote the education, safety and welfare of children. In 2005, he was selected as the Lions’ Robert Porcher Man of the Year Award, which recognizes off-the-field community service. He was born on October 21, 1978 in Portland.

[Vandy58]

Oh god we signed Marcus Vick! DAMNIT!

[bennprince]

The Dolphins are going to be a disaster at QB this year. Better hope they have a good running game. Can probably pull off 5-6 wins.

[Vandy58]

I have no idea why I did not check the website in the past two weeks, a lot has happened. I am not worried about QB, a healthy Culpepper is a good Culpepper, and Joey will be good for a few games, Vick will probably be a back up WR more then a QB

[cochese75]

The Dolphins are going to be a disaster at QB this year. Better hope they have a good running game. Can probably pull off 5-6 wins.

disaster at QB???:rolleyes: ..... LOL





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[mmevile]

Oh god we signed Marcus Vick! DAMNIT!He could always return punts......besides he came SUPER-CHEAP! :)

[Vandy58]

He could potentially be a super pain the arse!

[mmevile]

He could potentially be a super pain the arse!True, but he came at the league minimum.....so who cares. ;) :D

[Vandy58]

so camp looks like it is going good! GO FINS!!!!!

[Vandy58]

so camp looks like it is going good! GO FINS!!!!!

[Miami Mike]

I am looking forward to opening day. GO FINS GO!!!!!

[FinFan4Life]

I picked up some tickets to their preseason game in Charlotte Aug. 24th. I've never been to a Phins game live, so I'm pumped, even though it is a preseason game. They don't visit NC too much, so I haven't gotten to see them live.

[Vandy58]

I go to every game they play against the Donkey's here in Denver. I have a blast and always talk so much crap! I actually had my life threatened by some trailer trash woman! Funny stuff! GO FINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pipetender]

I can't wait for the Fins to finally make a visit to Chi-Town this year.

[cochese75]

Jason Allen finally signs but we cut Will Poole.

Too bad he's injured so much. Wouldve loved to see what he could do at full strength




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[Vandy58]

I did not see any of the game but it sounded like Harrington did not look to bad. Plus it is preseason and means nothing! GO FINS

[kastompa02]

daunte WILL get hurt......:) AGAIN....

[Vandy58]

that is why they have harrington

[Joe F.]

Go Fins!

[cochese75]

Go Fins!

has TMP decided on who the SB exclusive will be?
come on hook us Fin fans up :D








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[Joe F.]

has TMP decided on who the SB exclusive will be?
come on hook us Fin fans up :D


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We have not decided yet.
Talk is abound though.

The Poll thread that was posted last week came in handy.

[Vandy58]

JASON TAYLOR, NUFF SAID!

[Miami Mike]

Culpepper and Harrington are looking good tonight. :D I am going to love the Culpepper to Chambers Connection. :)

Carolina's D is looking tough.

Go Fins Go

[cochese75]

even though were losing on the scoreboard im super excited about this team. Our DL looks good. How awesome is Big Daddy? Man even Harrington looks good.

Only concerns is the OL not pushing Carolina DL back. I know their a good DL but we need to make room for Ronnie. And our DBS scare me a little. Oh yeah we need to wrap up on SP teams





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[mmevile]

In the spirit of last year's SB Exclusive..........how about another Hall of Famer.........*cough* Dan the Man *cough* ;) :D

has TMP decided on who the SB exclusive will be?
come on hook us Fin fans up :D








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[UFCFan]

They aren't gonna debut a Legends figure as an Exclusive, since they are all original sculpts. No dice on Marino.

[mmevile]

They aren't gonna debut a Legends figure as an Exclusive, since they are all original sculpts. No dice on Marino.They've had orig sculpts on exclusives before.........maybe not for SPs, but this could be the 1st. ;)

[Vandy58]

Reguardless of who they do I need help people! You guys know I am a die hard fan. Originally I was going to Florida for the fan experience but I get married a month after that. Fiance says no, I need help getting the one figure or a set, anybody help?

[Miami Mike]

Lee Suggs in.....Ben R.....out.

[Chugga]

So hows everyone enjoying the Mike Mularky era?

[UFCFan]

More than you will be enjoying the Steve Fairchild era.

[Chugga]

Nah to be honest I think you'll be more disappointed. Mainly because you have a team that could really take you places and Mike Mularky isn't going to let that happen. Our team right now...not necessarily pushing for a SB crown.

[avsfan21]

I see Dante is still in top form since leaving the Vikes.

[Vandy58]

Daunte is not the problem by a long shot, it is the damn offensive line that really needs some help. I was glad to see that the Steelers full time Ref staff showed up for yet another game! God awful fourth quater! GO FINS

[jjezioro225]

Bills vs. Fins!

[Chugga]

Good game guys, good game. I really thought you guys had the game won but it's just hard to overcome the disparity these 2 teams have at the QB position. I mean you've got the legend in the making on one side of the ball and then plain old Culpepper on the other.

To be honest I don't blame the dolphins players for this loss I blame Mike Mularky. How do you go from head coach of a team and knowing absolutely everything about them to not being able to muster a TD outside of garbage time when you are a coordinater against them. Blame Mularky....2 rookie safeties STARTING for the Bills and Culpepper doesn't take a shot down field until the 4th quarter.

[Trufinfan13]

Dolphins have -0- heart right now. Bills deserved this win as well as the Steelers did last week. Maybe we'll get our act together next vs. the Titans.

[Chugga]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/sports/2001/11/25/mora_7116.jpg

Playoffs??? PLAYOFFS???

[Chugga]

Dolphins have -0- heart right now. Bills deserved this win as well as the Steelers did last week. Maybe we'll get our act together next vs. the Titans.

Your o-line is downright horrible. Ronnie Brown should have had 180 yards rushing today against the bills. Once your o-line comes together I'd bet you start winning games no problems what-so-ever. But allowing 7 or so sacks with our less then amazing d-line is just wrong.

[UFCFan]

Agreed on the O Line. They were just absolutely putrid. They didn't give Culpepper a chance most of the time, though the pick he threw at the end of the first half in the red zone was just sickening and all on him. If Miami doesn't win next week against the Titans, there will be serious problems.

[Chugga]

Bump for an updated title. Vandy if you can't keep track of this thread and make regular updates you can feel free to transfer that power over to me.

[tatoman2525]

The Dolphins definately have no O line. Daunte Culpepper is playing like garbage, too. I am a Dolphins fan but I cannot sit here and try to make excuses for Daunte. He has had chances to make plays only to really screw it up. Sorry finfans, but Culpepper is not the answer that we have been looking for. Our defense is still out on the field for 75% of the time. Of course they're going to get scored on. They're dead tired cause our offense cannot give them time to rest. Then they drive the ball down the field only to have our beloved Culpepper through another damn interception in the red zone. The O line sucks and the quarterback the we thought would at least be a playmaker is making the plays for the wrong team. This season, i do not see them improving last year's record. In fact, I don't even see them matching last year's record.

[Chugga]

If you ask me I think alot of the issues start with the fact that your team is trying to change who they are just because of one freakin player. The dolphins as of late have always been a pound away at you type of offense....you guys get culpepper and all of a sudden lets throw on 1st down all the time, lets try to make plays in the passing game. Culpepper shouldn't change your entire offense. Ronnie Brown should be pounding away every single game with Culpepper simply complimenting him...right now it's Culpepper-Culpepper-Culpepper.

The dolphins main problem for these last few years was they always had an amazing running game and a really solid defense but their QB was never the guy who every once and a while could step in and make that big play that needed to be made. Well you've got that QB now....but you've changed your offense around completely....and now you need a better pass blocking o-line. It's like whenever the dolphins find the final piece to their puzzle they decide to move on and build themselves a whole new puzzle, they are never satisfied with the puzzle they just finished.

[tatoman2525]

If you ask me I think alot of the issues start with the fact that your team is trying to change who they are just because of one freakin player. The dolphins as of late have always been a pound away at you type of offense....you guys get culpepper and all of a sudden lets throw on 1st down all the time, lets try to make plays in the passing game. Culpepper shouldn't change your entire offense. Ronnie Brown should be pounding away every single game with Culpepper simply complimenting him...right now it's Culpepper-Culpepper-Culpepper.

The dolphins main problem for these last few years was they always had an amazing running game and a really solid defense but their QB was never the guy who every once and a while could step in and make that big play that needed to be made. Well you've got that QB now....but you've changed your offense around completely....and now you need a better pass blocking o-line. It's like whenever the dolphins find the final piece to their puzzle they decide to move on and build themselves a whole new puzzle, they are never satisfied with the puzzle they just finished.
please. They do not have the quarterback. The reason that they had a running game before in the past few seasons is because of Ricky Williams. Yeah the guy can't get over the suspension problems, but Ricky would make something out of nothing on that offense. Not taking anything away from Ronnie Brown, but we're talking about two different runners here. Yes, I'm sure that with a better offensive line Daunte Culpepper would (probably), play a bit better, but the guy is not the answer that the Dolphins are searching for. He makes stupid mistakes that a veteran quarterback shouldn't be making at this stage of his career. I get tired of hearing "oh, he can't do everything" but he should be doing something. The truth is that the Dolphins had Dan Marino and those shoes will never be filled. But we have to start expecting something out of the quarterback that we have now. He has the better numbers out of all the has beens that have passed through our roster in the last few years. He needs to step it up, flat out

[mmevile]

The only bright light in this situation is that the Panthers is also 0-2 :eek: ...........so, still too early. Have faith.....;)

[RickyWilliams34]

Wow Chugga you make smart comments about your teams rival. Seriously. I agree 100% that the Dolphins screwed themselves by all the passing they are doing. If they gave Brown a chance he would be a 1,200-1,500 yard runner if he was given the carries. I am disgusted with the Phins o-line after they were supposed to be improved. The o-line has taken a step back from last year. I say if Phins are down in the 3rd or 4th quarter against Tennessee they need to try Harrington.

[Trufinfan13]

The only bright light in this situation is that the Panthers is also 0-2 :eek: ...........so, still too early. Have faith.....;)

Ironic that these were the 2 picks for the bowl according to SI. The Jinx lives...

[Vandy58]

I will aslo say wow thanks for the great comments chugga! I cannot come on the boards every minute of every day so sorry if it takes a little time to update! Daunte would be better if he had an o-line, the guy is constantly sacked and when he is not he is hurried up! He made the mistake in the first game not to pass to Chris Chambers until the 4th. That was his fault, getting sacked is not his fault! I really hope the Fins can start pulling it out! I think all Fin fans had a lot of high hopes coming into this season!

[Indy Jones]

Miami Dolphins = 2006's OLDEST NFL Team.....and they are showing it! HEHEHEHE!!

[UFCFan]

If you ask me I think alot of the issues start with the fact that your team is trying to change who they are just because of one freakin player. The dolphins as of late have always been a pound away at you type of offense....you guys get culpepper and all of a sudden lets throw on 1st down all the time, lets try to make plays in the passing game. Culpepper shouldn't change your entire offense. Ronnie Brown should be pounding away every single game with Culpepper simply complimenting him...right now it's Culpepper-Culpepper-Culpepper.

The dolphins main problem for these last few years was they always had an amazing running game and a really solid defense but their QB was never the guy who every once and a while could step in and make that big play that needed to be made. Well you've got that QB now....but you've changed your offense around completely....and now you need a better pass blocking o-line. It's like whenever the dolphins find the final piece to their puzzle they decide to move on and build themselves a whole new puzzle, they are never satisfied with the puzzle they just finished.


Yep, what you are saying has already reared its ugly head in both games so far. They have now abandoned the running game twice in two games. Against the Steelers, the O Line was getting absolutely manhandled, but later in the game Ronnie was starting to be a little more effective, and Mularkey pretty much eschewed the run. Last week, he was more effective, and they only attempted two runs the whole second half, even though they trailed by a fairly small margin for most of it.

This is supposed to still be mostly Scott Linehan's offense in place here, but Mularkey is the one doing the playcalling, and I am frankly not liking what I am seeing so far. I do think that way too many people are closing the book on Culpepper too quick, but this is a what have you done for me lately game, and on the message boards that just gets magnified. I think they are asking him to do a little too much too soon by putting the games on his shoulder to win at this point. That said, he looks extremely tentative, both in the pocket and in his decision making with the ball. If you paid close attention, you can easily spot the instances so far where has made quick and sure decisions throwing the ball vs. when he hasn't. When he has thrown with authority, every throw save one (the pick to Porter in the Steelers game) has been a good one.

I think as the season progresses, he will gain confidence and feel more comfortable. My main concern is that by the time he does, they will be out of the playoff race. Still, I actually didn't jump onto the preseason hype train with both feet like a lot of Dolphins fans did. I pretty much considered this season as a transitional one, with them having a shot at the playoffs if things clicked, but I felt that they were still a year or two away from being able to seriously contend-not just for a playoff spot, but for a deep run or a super bowl shot. Saban still doesn't have the roster he wants, and Culpepper may or may not end up being the guy who can take this team there, but this, to me at least, is a case of too much too soon.

[Vandy58]

Like I put in the title, a win is a win! GO FINS! What is whith Mare the past few years! Guy was always dead on accurate but has really fallen off the past few seasons!

[Chugga]

If Ronnie Brown doesn't pick it up soon I'm going to lose my fantasy league....so someone close to Miami better deliver a memo to him and that crappy offensive line of his. I swear if he struggles against the Titans only to struggle against the Texans next week I'm officially giving up.

[Goalkeeper]

If Ronnie Brown doesn't pick it up soon I'm going to lose my fantasy league....so someone close to Miami better deliver a memo to him and that crappy offensive line of his. I swear if he struggles against the Titans only to struggle against the Texans next week I'm officially giving up.

Agreed.

The freakin' offense in Miami is a joke right now...

[Vandy58]

I would not say the offense as much as the god damn line@ SUCKS

[Chugga]

This coming week you got the battle of sacked QB's. Both teams should just call it a truce and not rush either QB just to see how they both play without having to overcome crap offensive lines.

[UKGaz]

I wonder who we will get for the SB exclusive at this rate :o

Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas I'm hoping for :D

[pipetender]

this is a joke

[Yukoner]

Joe Harrington, please.

[Chugga]

Welcome to the world of Mike Mularky at his finest....HB pass from the 2 yard line with the game on the line.

[Yukoner]

Well, atleast this is Mularkey's fist time ruining an offense. Oh, wait...

[Chugga]

This would officially be the 3rd

[GuitarPik]

What a joke this is. Welcome to another year of hell Dolphins fans.

[Chugga]

Technically 2 and a half if you don't count when he wasn't calling plays as a head coach

[fatboy11722]

Dolphins suck this year.. Put in Joey lets see what he can do.. Culpepper is holding the ball too long. Each week he waits till the 4th qrtr to score a TD. Pathetic. I am suppose to go to Jets Fins on the 15th starting to regret buying tickets.

[mmevile]

What a joke this is. Welcome to another year of hell Dolphins fans.I see it's going to be one of those "developmental" seasons. :( :mad:

[UFCFan]

I think right now I am even more frustrated with this season so far than the 2004 season, simply because the expectations were higher this year.

It is absolutely just maddening to watch them play right now. If it isn't Mularkey calling gimmick plays at the most inopportune and crucial times (the cute little pitch to Brown in the Pittsburgh game when they had the lead that got stuffed, the 2 pt conversion HB pass today), it's the O Line doing their best impersonation of a turnstyle, the O Line committing stupid penalties that put them in 2nd and really long situations every series, Culpepper holding the ball forever and taking sacks on the few occasions where he gets good protection, or Zach Thomas on blitzes running full speed right into a blocker like a ****** on speed.

There are just so many things completely pissing me off right now about this team. Ronnie Brown doesn't look too good, either. Granted, he is running hard, but so many times he either dances or runs head first into a sea of defenders when there is an actual hole. His vision seems a little lacking. At the same time, he isn't being given much of a chance to succeed. Their O Line play is just so atrocious right now, so there are defenders in the backfield on every carry he gets, and they keep committing all these dumbass penalties that put them 2nd and 3rd and forever to go, so they have no choice but to run the shotgun and do away with the running game.

It's just utterly sad right now. They are a much better team than they are showing.

[Vandy58]

I think right now I am even more frustrated with this season so far than the 2004 season, simply because the expectations were higher this year.

It is absolutely just maddening to watch them play right now. If it isn't Mularkey calling gimmick plays at the most inopportune and crucial times (the cute little pitch to Brown in the Pittsburgh game when they had the lead that got stuffed, the 2 pt conversion HB pass today), it's the O Line doing their best impersonation of a turnstyle, the O Line committing stupid penalties that put them in 2nd and really long situations every series, Culpepper holding the ball forever and taking sacks on the few occasions where he gets good protection, or Zach Thomas on blitzes running full speed right into a blocker like a ****** on speed.

There are just so many things completely pissing me off right now about this team. Ronnie Brown doesn't look too good, either. Granted, he is running hard, but so many times he either dances or runs head first into a sea of defenders when there is an actual hole. His vision seems a little lacking. At the same time, he isn't being given much of a chance to succeed. Their O Line play is just so atrocious right now, so there are defenders in the backfield on every carry he gets, and they keep committing all these dumbass penalties that put them 2nd and 3rd and forever to go, so they have no choice but to run the shotgun and do away with the running game.

It's just utterly sad right now. They are a much better team than they are showing.


Preach on brother! Great post:(

[Joey4mvp]

JOEY JOEY JOEY JOEY!!!! If the dolphins play him now they can still make it to the superbowl.

[Chugga]

I think some dolphins fans have unrealistic point of views on Joey Harrington. Not saying he's a bad qb...I think he's pretty decent but "pretty decent" qb's who get tossed behind god awful offensive lines don't look "pretty decent". 2 weeks from now you'd probably be going Daunte! Daunte! Daunte!

[Indy Jones]

JOEY JOEY JOEY JOEY!!!! If the dolphins play him now they can still make it to the superbowl.
LMAO! Whether you are joking or not, you sound like the Dolphins fans down here, they are so pathetic!
Its a great time to listen to local radio down here in South Florida, I love every minute of it.:D

[Indy Jones]

I think some dolphins fans have unrealistic point of views on Joey Harrington. Not saying he's a bad qb...I think he's pretty decent but "pretty decent" qb's who get tossed behind god awful offensive lines don't look "pretty decent". 2 weeks from now you'd probably be going Daunte! Daunte! Daunte!
No, they'll be calling for Cleo Lemon, saying his Marino type performance in the preseason was no fluke. ;)

The sad part is I'm serious.....Dolphins fans are unbelievable down here.

[Wblaze]

I got nervous when I saw DOL. I thought you ment days of our lives. Phew.

Come to think of it, the cast of that show's team could probably beat the dolphins.

[Vandy58]

Guys that is exactly how Donkey fans are up here! One day they freaking hate Plummer the next day he is a god and one step below thy lord and savor Elway! :rolleyes: Mike Mularkey for President!

[Chugga]

Maybe the Dolphins should trade for Losman a great and talented qb who can manage a game when needed. If you sent like your first rounder next year and the year after, Chris Chambers, Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor, and Culpepper to the Bills you might be able to snag him.

[cochese75]

Maybe the Dolphins should trade for Losman a great and talented qb who can manage a game when needed. If you sent like your first rounder next year and the year after, Chris Chambers, Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor, and Culpepper to the Bills you might be able to snag him.

can we throw in Mularkey??






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[Chugga]

No

[tatoman2525]

Daunte Culpepper is not what the Dolphins needed. Randy Moss made him a superstar at Minnesota. Once Randy was gone, how impressive of a quarterback has Culpepper been? As a Dolphins fan i knew not to even be slightly optimistic when i learned that the Dolphins had aquired him during the off season. Not to mention, the offensive line for the Dolphins is a f*****g nightmare, which makes Culpepper look even worse than what he already is. The defense is dog tired in every game thus far due to the fact that they are out on the field all freakin game, of course they're going to get scored on. They don't get a break! Although Joey Harrington is not the answer either, maybe they should give him a try. Maybe, just maybe he may play with a little more confidence. Culpepper is playing like a scared b***h opening himself up for stupid mistakes and holding on to the ball too long. The guy has been overrated from the start of his career. He was pampered by Moss but now has to actually play instead of just throwing the ball up in air

[footballfish34]

Yeah because Randy is making the QB's in Oakland MVP's...............

Culpepper will be fine, you have to remember is OL is crap and Mularky isn't calling the short passes, he wants to go for the long bombs which isn't possible with the crap OL.
It would also help if the running game started to roll and then we could do some play action and keep the defense from knowing all we can do is pass.

[Joe Bruin723]

You gota at least try Harrington, Culpepper will lead this team to the grounf just like last years Vikes.

[cochese75]

Yeah because Randy is making the QB's in Oakland MVP's...............

Culpepper will be fine, you have to remember is OL is crap and Mularky isn't calling the short passes, he wants to go for the long bombs which isn't possible with the crap OL.
It would also help if the running game started to roll and then we could do some play action and keep the defense from knowing all we can do is pass.


long ball?? i saw Culpepper throw it only twice against Houston.

I blame all three the OLine,Culpepper and Murlarkey. None of them are on the same page.



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[guyute0147]

Mike Mularky is an idiot and his play calling sucks. Has that guy ever heard of a "bomb". Hey Damon Huard had a nice game yesterday ...maybe we should of hung on to him?

[Chugga]

Mike Mularky is an idiot and his play calling sucks. Has that guy ever heard of a "bomb". Hey Damon Huard had a nice game yesterday ...maybe we should of hung on to him?

Get used to it. Last year Losman was completing a ridiculous number of bombs to Evans as I'm sure you dolphins fans will remember going down by 21 points in the matter of one quarter. Then comes Mike Mularky time...he wants to tone things down, he wants to work on a slow methodical offense. Basically "slow & methodical" means 3&outs on a consistant basis.

This is the Mularky era....I posted this the minute he got hired and everyone was like "no it was just the Bills Mularky will do a fine job". No he won't, Mike Mularky is the Rob Johnson of coaches....people keep giving him shots and he simply doesn't deserve it. His stuff may have worked on the steelers but EVERY SINGLE TEAM you get signed to ISN'T THE STEELERS. Adapt, play to your new teams strengths. Ronnie Brown isn't Jerome Bettis and by god the Dolphins and Bills o-lines aren't the steelers o-line by a long shot. So stop calling plays thinking that you'll have large gaping holes in the running-game and 5 hours for your QB to throw in the passing game.

Sad part is Mike Mularky has always been and always will be a Pittsburgh Steelers coach. Regardless of where he goes he'll be calling plays for the Pittsburgh Steelers....so if your team ISN'T the Pittsburgh Steelers...well then good luck to you...you'll need it.

[tatoman2525]

Yeah because Randy is making the QB's in Oakland MVP's...............

Culpepper will be fine, you have to remember is OL is crap and Mularky isn't calling the short passes, he wants to go for the long bombs which isn't possible with the crap OL.
It would also help if the running game started to roll and then we could do some play action and keep the defense from knowing all we can do is pass.

dude, and what the hell is Culpepper doing here? Jack*****! FERROTE did a better job than this guy last season for Godsake. Yeah the O line is garbage, Mularky should be called ******-KY with his breathtaking play calling, still Culpepper has to take a big part of the blame for it all after constantly watching his weekly sh**ty performances. I am getting tired of watching him play like ****** every week and of fans constantly making excuses for his lackluster performances. He forgot how to throw the ball away, he is scared sh**less of running the ball, he makes bad decisions in the redzone, he barely throws to the biggest weapon in that offense (Chambers), yet let's keep him in. He's going to majically take us to the Superbowl (please). So far he's taking us to the Super HOLE.

[BigFred]

Chris Chambers is killing my fantasy team.

[tatoman2525]

Chris Chambers is killing my fantasy team.

because Culpepper is killing him:(

[Vandy58]

Chris Chambers is killing my fantasy team.

No he is not the fact that Daunte for what ever reason choses not to throw to him is killing you! Chambers is a better reciever then Booker. Booker has problems with dropping balls. Chambers should be his go to guy! Like i said in the off season, Chris Chambers is a poormans Randy Moss. For what ever reason, Daunte has yet to figure this out!

[Poochiesdead]

Put in Joey :p

[tatoman2525]

No he is not the fact that Daunte for what ever reason choses not to throw to him is killing you! Chambers is a better reciever then Booker. Booker has problems with dropping balls. Chambers should be his go to guy! Like i said in the off season, Chris Chambers is a poormans Randy Moss. For what ever reason, Daunte has yet to figure this out!

i couldn't agree with you more

[guyute0147]

Some of you guys need to watch a whole Dolphin game. There are many times Culpepper drops back and has plenty of time to get off any pass he desires but he is too quick to leave the pocket and seems lost at times. I don't know if it is the injury he had or this guy really is garbage. Maybe he was just a good fit for the Vikings and their offensive play calling. I am by no means a football genius..but if you watch him it is frustrating man. If he somehow turns it around soon...good for him and the Dolphins, but right now it hurts to watch.

[mmevile]

If you don't trust the guys up front to do a halfway decent job, you would have happy feet either. ;)Some of you guys need to watch a whole Dolphin game. There are many times Culpepper drops back and has plenty of time to get off any pass he desires but he is too quick to leave the pocket and seems lost at times. I don't know if it is the injury he had or this guy really is garbage. Maybe he was just a good fit for the Vikings and their offensive play calling. I am by no means a football genius..but if you watch him it is frustrating man. If he somehow turns it around soon...good for him and the Dolphins, but right now it hurts to watch.

So, what should we expect this Sunday.........more of the same? :confused:
At their worst season, they HAVE beaten a much better Patriot team than this. :D

[footballfish34]

Does anyone know if the dolphins will be wearing the orange jersey's this year and at what game??

[cochese75]

nothing offical yet that i know of..but maybe either Detroit on thanksgiving or at home vs New England(2-0 wearing orange against them)








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[mmevile]

I got a question, I didn't pay attention when Junior Seau retired.......but, why is he playing now for the Patriots?!? If he retired, isn't there a mandatory 1yr that a player cannot return to a diff team (a la Ricky Williams)?? :confused:

[Miami Mike]

Here's hoping for an upset this weekend. :D

[Vandy58]

I got a question, I didn't pay attention when Junior Seau retired.......but, why is he playing now for the Patriots?!? If he retired, isn't there a mandatory 1yr that a player cannot return to a diff team (a la Ricky Williams)?? :confused:

Rickey did not have to wait a year, he just had to serve his suspension. And no they do not have to wait a year! Seau cracks me up, another jerry rice. Just get over it. He is in the hall of fame, I know he wants a superbowl but sometimes it is not ment to be

[Joey4mvp]

Joey Joey Joey!!!

[UKGaz]

Harrington is definately starting today

[mmevile]

Now we'll know if there's a difference between Culpepper & Harrington.

[pipetender]

Dear Lord...

[RickyWilliams34]

Phins suck get ready for a high pick

[mmevile]

Let the Quarterversy begin!!!
OK, they lost but Harrington played decisive enough to warrant all these QB controversy for an entire week. Yikes! :o

[footballfish34]

Harrington is starting against the Jets........Let's hope we get a win going into the bye week.

[mmevile]

Harrington is starting against the Jets........Let's hope we get a win going into the bye week.As much as I think Culpepper can still play, the offense is running better w/ Joey at the helm. **crosses fingers**

[footballfish34]

As much as I think Culpepper can still play, the offense is running better w/ Joey at the helm. **crosses fingers**

He only got sacked once as well against a good D.

[Vandy58]

I did not watch any of the game but from what I have read and what I hear lets see joey one more week! GO FINS!

[Vandy58]

THANK YOU GOD WE ARE FINALLY GETTING A JT FIGURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have asked before and I will ask again any people that are going to the exerience, I cannot go because I am getting married a month after. Please please please for the love of god can you get me two figure? One can be completly trashed, the other MOMC as possible, please please please!

[cochese75]

We will likely restrict purchases to one per person,


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[Goalkeeper]

Stoked about this!!!

[guyute0147]

Sad is not the word...they are so pathetic. They heve the best timing I've ever seen when it comes to penalties and turnovers.

[Vandy58]

Man nice try at the comeback. I remember when a 50 yrd field goal was nothing for mare, what happened>?

[Yukoner]

Ugh. Mularkey must go.

Why, why, why, is the third receiver always the first option on the pass plays? First, Booker, now Hagan. You have the second best receiver in the league, and he gets, what, 4 passes to him all game? Ridiculous.

[cochese75]

although i fault Mare the blame is not entirely his.

What kind of play calling was that on 3rd and 2?? Why not run the ***** ball get the first or atleast a closer FG attempt?


You never finish a close game with a TimeOut left...:mad:




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[Vandy58]

although i fault Mare the blame is not entirely his.

What kind of play calling was that on 3rd and 2?? Why not run the ***** ball get the first or atleast a closer FG attempt?


You never finish a close game with a TimeOut left...:mad:




:spawnorb:

I agree 100% but have you noticed that Mare the past fews seasons is just starting to get worse. 4 seasons ago he was considered one of the best and the most accurate in the NFL. He was short and wide right!

[cochese75]

yeah i was shocked that it was short unless it was windy. which i doubt





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[guyute0147]

yeah ...a timing pattern to the sidelines is not the play to call on 3rd and 2. I'm not a coach or anything but Welker in motion and then a short pass to him, or a run up the middle would of been a little better. Typical Dolphin's....they never play to win. "Lets just do enough to play for the tie". Obviously the pass was working when they finally decided to start passing (199yds in the 4th) why not keep doing that on those final two downs? Mularky sucks a@#.

[UKGaz]

Keep going like this and we may get a SP if they do 1# draft pick in a series next year :o

[Yukoner]

Chambers, one catch.

Maybe they should move Chambers to the 4th receiver spot and then he'd get some passes thrown his way. No wonder Moulds went bananas last year under Mularkey. The guy is a moron.

[Vandy58]

This is really starting to get out of hand! It would be sweet if we can come back from the bye and do some damage to the Bears D, I know that is optimistic at best but hope is all we have left! GO FINS!

[mmevile]

This is really starting to get out of hand! It would be sweet if we can come back from the bye and do some damage to the Bears D, I know that is optimistic at best but hope is all we have left! GO FINS!
I like last week......we didn't lose. ;) :D
Now, let's de-flower the Bears & hand them their 1st loss of the season!!

[Vandy58]

WHAT A FREAKING AWSOME GAME! JT 1 SACK, 1 FORCED FUMBLE, 1 INTERCEPTION, 1TD! That is why that guy is a stud! I hope we can keep the momentum going! GO FINS!!!!!!!!!

[ChicagoRules]

man the dolphins were good today. maybe they'll play each other in the superbowl...

[ajaxdog]

man the dolphins were good today. maybe they'll play each other in the superbowl...

Post of the day goes to you:D

[alphawhite]

WHAT A FREAKING AWSOME GAME! JT 1 SACK, 1 FORCED FUMBLE, 1 INTERCEPTION, 1TD! That is why that guy is a stud! I hope we can keep the momentum going! GO FINS!!!!!!!!!
He is a beast, great game, but then again, Rex dayum near handed the ball off to him:p

[Vandy58]

man the dolphins were good today. maybe they'll play each other in the superbowl...

Only problem with this is the Bears will not make it to the superbowl, mark my words!

[mmevile]

Anyone know how much you would've won had to you bet the Fins.....:confused:

[cochese75]

NFL replay bump





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[UKGaz]

Only 1 sack allowed today, none last week. Wonder where Miami would be if the O-line had been like this earlier in the season?

[mmevile]

Wow......we really should just play teams on a winning roll. ;) :D

[HankScorpio]

Let the record state that I still hate Mularkey as OC. When Chambers went out of bounds at the 1 on the flea flicker, I was convinced Mularkey was going to call three staight passes (with one being a halfback pass).

[Vandy58]

We really need to keep this going! GO FINS!

[mmevile]

We really need to keep this going! GO FINS!
Ask and you shall receive.......;) :D

[Vandy58]

D backs us up again! JT is a freaking stud!

[cochese75]

JTs the man!!
Hopefully the NFL will notice him...:rolleyes: :mad:




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[mmevile]

On a Wasabi Roll.......;)

[Vandy58]

Great game yesterday! Glad to see Joey go into detroit and kick their arse! GO FINS!

[Sk8er Boy]

Yeah...it was funny to watch the game and hear the fans boo him as soon as he touched the ball. The boos trailed away in the second quarter when the fans finally realized that it wasn't Joey that sucked while he was there, it was the rest of the Lions (and Matt Millen's football knowledge) that sucked. The Dolphins have an outside chance at a Wild Card. 4 Game winstreak going. Go Fins!!

[BlakChamber]

This is one Lions fan who was happy to see Joey have a great game. He put up with so much **** in Detroit. Then he comes back and puts up 3 TDs.

Hmmm...maybe it wasn't all Joey's fault the Lions are so bad after all.

[Vandy58]

Big game for us Sunday, I know the Bengals are going for us as is the rest of the playoff race! Jets lose, Bills lose, Fins win, damn that would be great!

[UKGaz]

Oh dear :(

[RoninJai]

Seriously...the Lions fans booing were the crazy ones who are still buying tickets and going to the game. I don't think any one else in Detroit expected Joey to come back and NOT have a huge game...I called it as soon as I saw the schedule.

[mmevile]

That was a nice streak while it lasted.....:(

[pipetender]

That pick in the end zone was the turning point. damn harrington

[mmevile]

Nothing like a shut-out to start a new steak......YAY, we still have a chance for the playoffs. ;)

[Vandy58]

man what a game! I had a good feeling that we would come out with a win but a shutout? Holy crap, awsome! GO FINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will also say I think Daunte's days are numbered@!

[Goalkeeper]

I was in Miami over the weekend and had a LOT of fun talking smack to the Pats fans in the airport on my flight back to St. Louis!!!

:)

[mewsh1]

Why did they have to wait until the 8th game of the season to play like this? They could be running neck and neck with the Pats right now. Oh well, as guess as a die-hard Cubs fan I've gotten used to "Wait till next year". If Taylor doesn't win Defensive Player of the Year it's a crime.

[Chugga]

Well as always great rivalry game today. I always love a season sweep. It gives me like 9 months of material just in case cochese wants to speak up.

[Vandy58]

I wondered when you would peek your head in here! That game just sucked! Kind of crazy though we shut out the Pats 21-0 you shut out us 21-0!

[BuffaloBills#1 Fan]

21-0 Go Bills. You didnt steal the Bills signals this week?

[Vandy58]

21-0 Go Bills. You didnt steal the Bills signals this week?

I am sorry but that comment is ignorant! The dolphins did nothing that is against the rules! All teams view the other teams films, we just had some audio in our favor on the last one!

[mmevile]

Phew......they both finally scored.
Wow, this is 1 FUGLY game......I'm falling asleep & I didn't even have any turkey for the holiday. :(

[mmevile]

4th Quarter.....1 inch to go to get 1st down facing 4 tries at the goal & you kick....?!? Is Dave Wahhh-stead back coaching or what? :mad:

[UFCFan]

Yes, that was really weak, especially considering the Dolphins had nothing to lose. They had a chance to really hurt the Jets' playoff chances, and what a sweet Christmas present that would have been.

[mmevile]

Yes, that was really weak, especially considering the Dolphins had nothing to lose. They had a chance to really hurt the Jets' playoff chances, and what a sweet Christmas present that would have been.
They had the game to lose. ;) ....and sure enough they did because of that weak move.

[Vandy58]

I cannot understand why Lemon started? I still do not understand why he was pulled during the jets game? Personally I think that is a little Mularkey! What ever here is looking up to next season! I think if Joey works on his game we will kick some arse! We could give Rickey Williams the league minimum, have him split duties with Ronnie, put Joey on his game and force him to relize that Chris Chambers is the better reciever not Booker and we are good to go! GO FINS!

[Vandy58]

Like my title says! JT got what he diserved, now lets get him a superbowl in Miami, Saban can go to hell! I am glad that butt clown is gone! GO FINS!

[Yukoner]

This is what sucks:

If Saban had picked Brees instead of Culpepper, he'd still be coaching Miami. But because he didn't, we're stuck with that huge contract and no coach.

[mmevile]

Nick Saban = Good Riddance!! :mad: :mad:
Who knew that there was a worst coach than Wahh-nstead! Wonder who the new coach would be....:confused:

[footballfish34]

Dolphins hope to name a new coach Saturday.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/01/18/dolphins.coach.ap/index.html

[mmevile]

Dolphins hope to name a new coach Saturday.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/01/18/dolphins.coach.ap/index.html
Pls.pls.pls.pls.pls.pls.pls.......don't let it be Chan Gailey. :(

[Vandy58]

My god why does TMP have to be fins haters?

[Vandy58]

Just wanted to give a big fins fan welcomb to Joey Porter! The D just gets better!

[FinFan4Life]

How do you guys feel the offseason is going? Lots of OLD players out the door, I like it.

[Vandy58]

Pretty crazy stuff, Welker gone (do not know if I like this one) Harrington gone, McMichael gone. I will not blame McMichael for his performance last season because nobody passed to him!

[Vandy58]

Hopefully we do not waste picks! We have 3 in the first 60!

[HankScorpio]

How do you guys feel the offseason is going? Lots of OLD players out the door, I like it.
I love the fact that they're making trades for more draft picks this year. They need to pick up a fullback though.

[cochese75]

its welcomE ;)





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[cochese75]

Pretty crazy stuff, Welker gone (do not know if I like this one) Harrington gone, McMichael gone. I will not blame McMichael for his performance last season because nobody passed to him!

we got 2 draft picks for trading Welker. so i think it will be worth it.

Also on Monday, the Dolphins acquired second- and seventh-round draft choices from the New England Patriots in exchange for wide receiver Wes Welker. The second-round pick is the 60th overall, and the Dolphins now own nine selections in the 2007 Draft, including three of the first 60 picks






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[FinFan4Life]

I love the fact that they're making trades for more draft picks this year. They need to pick up a fullback though.

Henderson was just cut by Green Bay, wonder if they'll bring him in for a visit? Otherwise, a 4th rounder spent on Rutgers FB Brian Leonard wouldn't be a bad option considering that we have 4 first day picks.

[Vandy58]

its welcomE ;)





:spawnorb:

I suck! ;)

[cochese75]

Henderson was just cut by Green Bay, wonder if they'll bring him in for a visit? Otherwise, a 4th rounder spent on Rutgers FB Brian Leonard wouldn't be a bad option considering that we have 4 first day picks.

i think he's gone in the 2nd round



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[cochese75]

I suck! ;)

uh no B...lol ;)





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[Vandy58]

uh no B...lol ;)





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Good god! How in the hell did I miss that? LOL I really do suck! My friends last name is Holcomb and I am used to that!

[FinFan4Life]

i think he's gone in the 2nd round



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You're probably right. Here's how I'd like the Phins first day of the draft to go:

#9- Louisville DT Amobi Okoye or Penn St. OT Levi Brown
#40- USC C Ryan Kalil
#60- Rutgers FB Brian Leonard
#71- Michigan St. QB Drew Stanton

Fill out the 2nd day with some more depth in the secondary and in the trenches, maybe a TE to replace McMichael.

[cochese75]

You're probably right. Here's how I'd like the Phins first day of the draft to go:

#9- Louisville DT Amobi Okoye or Penn St. OT Levi Brown
#40- USC C Ryan Kalil
#60- Rutgers FB Brian Leonard
#71- QB Drew Stanton

Fill out the 2nd day with some more depth in the secondary and in the trenches, maybe a TE to replace McMichael.

did you see my picks in Kramers draft?
1. Brown
2. Kalil
3. Stanton
4. im going D :D

as for TE from this quote Cam really likes David Martin.

David is a talented tight end who will be a major contributor to our offense," said Dolphins Head Coach Cam Cameron. "He is very athletic with good speed and is a quality receiver, having played wideout in college. We feel as though he will be a valuable addition to our team.


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[FinFan4Life]

So Cam hopes he can make Martin the next Gates? I'd better use a late round pick on Martin in my fantasy drafts this year.

[Vandy58]

Hey sorry guys I was getting married! Nice that we picked up Feeley! Mare has gone to **** the past 4 seasons! GO FINS!

[Vandy58]

cleaned up the first page since the start of this thread!

[Vandy58]

I just thought I would bump this because we are now post draft! I really hope the QB gamble pays off!

[HankScorpio]

I just thought I would bump this because we are now post draft! I really hope the QB gamble pays off!

I think Beck is a good fit for Cameron's offense and I have no problem with passing on Quinn. However, I think they should have drafted Okoye or traded down about ten spots to get Ginn. They got good value in rounds 2 through 7, and Booker should be able to produce if they use him like Cameron used Turner in San Diego.

[Yukoner]

What is wrong with this team? How do you take Ginn at that spot?!

[mmevile]

What is wrong with this team? How do you take Ginn at that spot?!I'm trying to remember the name of the wide receiver from UM we picked awhile ago that never played a single NFL game throughout his contract due to injuries....:confused: This sadly reminds me of that time....hope, I'm wrong. :(

[cochese75]

I'm trying to remember the name of the wide receiver from UM we picked awhile ago that never played a single NFL game throughout his contract due to injuries....:confused: This sadly reminds me of that time....hope, I'm wrong. :(

Yatil Green



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[cochese75]

im actually excited with the draft. If everythings pans out like Cam invisions this offense will be explosive.



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[FinFan4Life]

I'm happy with the draft. Reports say that Houston was going after Ginn at the #10 spot. If we would have traded down, we would be looking at a Quinn/Jarrett combination instead of Beck/Ginn. I prefer the later of the two. Ginn reminds me of Steve Smith, if he can have half the career Steve has had here in Carolina then I'll be more than happy.

[Yukoner]

...But the defense continues to get older, and the offensive line still has lots of questions.

[NotoriousVesaToskala]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm2-PKY2wzw

God bless youtube!

[mmevile]

Yay.............a new quarterback (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2894600)!

Hmmmm, deja vu. :eek:

[pipetender]

Welcome, Trent.

[HankScorpio]

I'm not totally sold on a QB coming off a serious head injury being better than a QB coming off multiple knee surgereies, but Green is a better fit for Cameron's offense than Culpepper. I just hope he can hold up for a couple of years until Beck is ready.

[tenacioust]

Did you see him in the playoffs...he was dynamic the franchise is saved!!!!Move over Pats!...tee hee silly fishes

[Vandy58]

Sorry forgot to update when green came over

[Joe Bruin723]

I hope Trent Green can be the guy to lead us to the playoffs. He's the best we've had since Dan.

[RickyWilliams34]

No chance he leads us to the superbowl. I dont think he's the best qb since Dan Marino. I think that was someone who got rushed back into playing and wasnt given a chance.

[gorillakram]

Trent Green will be a great QB for John Beck to learn from. I like the move.

[Joe Bruin723]

No chance he leads us to the superbowl. I dont think he's the best qb since Dan Marino. I think that was someone who got rushed back into playing and wasnt given a chance.

I can;t really think of who you have in mind. Fiedler, Gus, Daunte, AJ, Sage, Lemon, Harrington?

[HankScorpio]

Green's restructured his contract:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2906940

Green's salary cap charges for the three seasons are $5.33 million in 2007, $3.733 million for 2008, and $4.433 million for 2009.

[Indy Jones]

Trent Green must feel like a god, no one has ever been this happy after signing him.

You Dolphins fans are a joke.....

[Joe Bruin723]

Trent Green must feel like a god, no one has ever been this happy after signing him.

You Dolphins fans are a joke.....

Gotta question for you- How would you like Jason Taylor to end Chad's season? See how you do then, maybe you can trade the Pats for Vinny.;)

[Y Ted Ginn Y?]

Gosh our fns have me confused! We pass on the surest thing at Qb since carson palmer in brady quinn, the guy just produces. We take an over hyped INJURY RIDDLED KR/PR specialist ( gotta laugh at the steve smith comparison, smith has a great knowledge of the WR position, Ginn is closer to james jett).

We replace Randy McMichael with a cast away from GB?? Doesnt GB have a worst passing game than we do minus favre/? We get Porter who i love but hate the cash we spent on him. Channing Crowder and Zach Thomas make for solid Lb corp no matter whos beside them. We could have gotten DBs which was deeper and our biggest weakness on D.

We replace Daunte with Trent, just makes us older and no more mobile at QB. Greens got maybe 2 years left. We draft John Beck whos already 24 or older i cant recall exact age. The life of an nfl starter at Qb is about 7 years with the prime being ages 28-30. If we get lucky Beck will have maybe 4 good years for us. I think brady quinn is going to be to us what Marino was to the steelers.

Im catiously optimistic tho based on Cam's track record sure hope he works his magic!!

[Dolfan Gary]

Well its going to be some season , New Coach,New Offensive,New D,and Who know's at QB...Can't be any worse than Last Season....
I was around when they were 3-11 back in 66.
Anyway they go , I with them all the way ....
( Still The Only Underfeated Team !!!!! 17-0 Baby )

[mmevile]

Trent Green must feel like a god, no one has ever been this happy after signing him.

You Dolphins fans are a joke.....:rolleyes: .....hmmm, let me guess = Jets fan. Remind me again what happened w/ you guys last season? ;)

[Vandy58]

Hey a win in our first pre-season game! GO FINS!

[UFCFan]

Dude, they looked horrible. Winning means nothing in the preseason. This game was so ugly to watch as a Dolphins fan.

I know it was only the first game and Cameron purposely put them in adverse situations, but the O Line better shape up in a hurry. That unit looked absolutely atrocious out there. Our offense is going to be horrendous once again this year if the line can't get it together.

I was impressed with a few people, notably Rodrique Wright, Samson Satele, and Abraham Wright. I think our D Line is going to be stellar. I hope Matt Roth can keep his motor running for 16 games. I was also impressed with the little I saw from John Beck. Aside from one real bad throw he had, he looked pretty poised for his first live action, and he throws a really nice ball.

[Vandy58]

Wow that sucks. Unfortuanely I did not watch the game because of my geographical location and my job! I will watch Thursday game. But like you said it is the pre-season. It means NOTHING! I remember a couple of years back when I started this thread, we went 3-2 in the preseason and went 4-12 in the regualr season.
Dude, they looked horrible. Winning means nothing in the preseason. This game was so ugly to watch as a Dolphins fan.

I know it was only the first game and Cameron purposely put them in adverse situations, but the O Line better shape up in a hurry. That unit looked absolutely atrocious out there. Our offense is going to be horrendous once again this year if the line can't get it together.

I was impressed with a few people, notably Rodrique Wright, Samson Satele, and Abraham Wright. I think our D Line is going to be stellar. I hope Matt Roth can keep his motor running for 16 games. I was also impressed with the little I saw from John Beck. Aside from one real bad throw he had, he looked pretty poised for his first live action, and he throws a really nice ball.

[mmevile]

Good thing this is the pre-season......yeah the 1st team looked horrible. But everything started clicking by the time Lemon is throwing. ;) I'm gonna love #28.....I can feel it. :)

[UFCFan]

I couldn't care less about the actual scores of the games. I just want to see the different units progressing, specifically the O Line and how well Green and the QB's can develop a rapport with the Receivers.

Green looked real bad, to be quite frank. I didn't expect him to set the world on fire or anything, and in his defense, the O Line play was just so brutal that he had pressure all the time. That said, the thing that was disconcerting to me about what I saw was that he looked really weak and tired. I guess it is natural for his legs to be a little tired if he has been worked real hard in camp so far, but his arm strength looked downright lousy. He threw quite a few fluttering passes that seemed to hang in the air way too long. On the longest pass he attempted (probably 20 yards or so), he hung a wobbling duck in Ted Ginn's direction, but the Jags Safety was able to run over and pick it off. Luckily, the pass ended up just out of bounds.

I don't care if the Dolphins only score 3 points in these games, but I want to see some cohesion and semblance of rhythm on offense.

The offense did seem to click when Lemon came in, but it wasn't just him. All of a sudden, the running game came alive, too. The O Line started opening holes for Chatman, and later Cobb, to run through. It wasn't because of Lemon, so much, though. It had more to do with the fact that it was Jacksonville's 2nd and 3rd string defenses out there, and they were getting tired.

If you noticed, our first team D played incredibly, even without JT, Zach, Porter, and Traylor in the lineup. It looks like we are going to have great depth on the D Line this year. The secondary, even at the beginning, was allowing receivers to get way too open, and it definitely persisted throughout the game. They didn't really allow any real big plays (except the long pass at the end of the game to get Jax into FG position), unlike when they played them last preseason, but the DB's gave way too much of a cushion and allowed Leftwich and Garrard to more or less pick them apart.

[mmevile]

CHATMAN.....CHATMAN.....:D

[RickyWilliams34]

I'm really excited to see what both Wrights and Roth do this season as the Phins try to get younger on the defensive side.
If you noticed, our first team D played incredibly, even without JT, Zach, Porter, and Traylor in the lineup. It looks like we are going to have great depth on the D Line this year.

[UFCFan]

Rodrique Wright looked like a stud out there, dude. His year of rehab has clearly paid off- he is in shape and quick. If he pans out in the slightest, man, what a steal he was in last year's draft.

I think Roth will have a good season, too- he has an incredible motor, and it looks like he has bulked up a bit, which was really needed. If he falters, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Rodrique get playing time at DE.

[Goalkeeper]

Go Fins!

[UFCFan]

CHATMAN.....CHATMAN.....:D

Chatman is not going to get all that many carries. I wouldn't go getting too excited. He'll back up Ronnie, but he will get fewer carries than Sammy Morris did last year.

His 74 yard run was nice, but it was pretty much a busted play. Don't forget, two guys by the name of Fred Gibson and John Avery have had really long TD's in the preseason in the past, too. What did either of them do in the regular season?

[mmevile]

Chatman is not going to get all that many carries. I wouldn't go getting too excited. He'll back up Ronnie, but he will get fewer carries than Sammy Morris did last year.

His 74 yard run was nice, but it was pretty much a busted play. Don't forget, two guys by the name of Fred Gibson and John Avery have had really long TD's in the preseason in the past, too. What did either of them do in the regular season?Of course, I'm being a little premature rooting for a guy based on 1 play in the preseason......but hey, there hasn't been much to root for in terms of running play from the Fins lately (I haven't seen anything from Brown to warrant a 2nd pick). ;)

[RickyWilliams34]

I haven't seen anything from the o-line that makes me think they are good enough to play for my high school team so it's not all his fault. (I haven't seen anything from Brown to warrant a 2nd pick). ;)

[UFCFan]

I haven't seen anything from the o-line that makes me think they are good enough to play for my high school team so it's not all his fault.

Bingo. I really couldn't have stated it much better myself. The bottom line is that Brown hasn't even had a fighting chance. Considering how putrid his O Line has been, it is actually an accomplishment that he has gained as many yards as he has in his two years so far.

His rookie season, he had 900 yards and change, and that was with him getting hurt and splitting carries with Ricky. He was above average in yards/carry. Last year, the O Line was just dreadful- far worse than '05, and to make it even more of an uphill climb for him, the passing game was among the worst I have ever seen. Every game they played, he was the one guy defenses keyed on because everyone knew the Dolphins couldn't beat them throwing the ball downfield. Ronnie missed 3 1/2 games and still put up 1,000 for the season. His yards per carry average was again above average (4.3 I believe). Had he not gotten hurt, he would have probably had somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,300 yards. He was getting red hot by the time he got hurt in the Detroit Thanksgiving game.

All of that said, I will say that Ronnie does not seem like he will ever be one of those LT type backs who can take it to the house on any touch. He still brings a lot to the table, and can definitely live up to his #2 pick status if he gets a little help. He is a powerful runner that can wear defenses down, and if you notice, he gets better as games go on. He is deadly with a lead in the 4th quarter. The problem is, again the O Line, but also, Mularkey ignored him a lot last season. He had multiple games where he would get like 10 or 11 carries. That just isn't going to cut it. He also has a hell of a lot to offer in the passing game, which hasn't really been utilized by the previous coaches. I expect Cam Cameron to make much better use of him catching out of the backfield this year.

I know people expect a lot out of someone taken with a real high pick, and rightfully so, but look at how many top 10 picks flame out quickly or just never make any impact what so ever? Everyone was on Cadillac Williams' nut sack after he busted out of the gate strong as a rookie, but what has he done since? Brown has been the better, more consistent back as a pro, but you don't hear anyone being negative about Caddy. Ronnie is definitely an above average back in this league, but he isn't magical. There is only so much a guy can do when there are defenders, usually more than one, in the backfield every time he gets a handoff.

[RickyWilliams34]

Great point about Caddy. People also seem to forget one the reasons Caddy did so much better than Ronnie in their rookie seasons was how many carries Caddy got.

[RickyWilliams34]

Just looked it up and Caddy had 83 more carries than Ronnie which can explain a lot. It was even with one less game than Brown too.

[UFCFan]

A lot of Dolphins fans really annoy me, to be quite frank. I know there are homer fans and idiots for every team out there, but so many Dolphins fans seem to be so fair weather to me. A lot of them just hate Ronnie because he isn't the type of back that will pop 60 yard touchdown runs with regularity. Not every running back is going to be like Tomlinson, people.

[bluespark]

i was there on sat. and we looked just as bad on offense as we did last year. I know it was only the first game so i am not putting to much into it. hopefully we can get that o line at least respectful or it is going to be another long season sitting in the stands.

[mmevile]

Yeah, I realize that the O-Line plays a part of a runningback's success.....I guess, I'm still disappointed w/ him because I don't see anything "special" from him when he's past the line of scrimmage alone w/ another defender. He doesn't truck people over....he doesn't have those elusive moves.....all he does is get tackled. ;) Honestly, he looks incredibly average.....just my rant, that's all.

[UFCFan]

He sure looked more than average his rookie year in the Kansas City game, where he completely ran over a guy en route to his 68 yard TD run.

I do understand what you are saying, though, and I did more or less address that in my earlier post. I don't think he is ever going to be an LT type back that is a bona fide gamechanger kinda guy. He definitely has it in him to take over games, though, and he has proven that. The Jets couldn't stop him either game last season, and he completely ran through the vaunted Bears defense as well. It really just all depends on how the O Line plays. If they show up, he has a good game. Even if they don't, and he actually gets a proper amount of carries, he will produce. I would like to see more TD's and some longer runs from him, so in that regard, you are right. The thing I notice about him sometimes is that when he gets past the first level of defenders, he tries to get a little cute with jukes and especially spin moves. That really isn't his game, but he does have speed to go with his power style.

Another thing about him that you have to appreciate is that he is constantly fighting for that extra yard. He may get tackled, but it is seldomly easy. I can't even count how many times I have seen him get stood up in the hole, but keep his legs churning and end up gaining 3 or 4 hard yards at the end of a play.

[RickyWilliams34]

I was also going to bring that up. If you watch that run that shows that the potential is there, he just can't do that every game and especially not without a decent o-line.He sure looked more than average his rookie year in the Kansas City game, where he completely ran over a guy en route to his 68 yard TD run.